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00:01:00.000If you're watching us on YouTube, there's a link right there in the description.
00:01:03.000Very subtly do this so the algorithm don't spot it.
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00:01:08.000Because Wim Hof, the Iceman, is a fascinating chap, let me tell you.
00:01:13.000Because in addition to his powerful breathwork methods and his dalliances with extreme cold, he has powerful scientific evidence that reveals the depth to which the Replace your own natural immunity, a phrase that until recently you weren't able to use.
00:01:32.000You might know him because of his astonishing feats, swimming under ice, climbing mountains in his pants.
00:01:37.000In our conversation at Community, we talked about his techniques and how they provide a meaningful alternative to the medical industry and big pharma.
00:01:44.000And, interestingly, his belief that all of us are able to intercede in our own health, Accessing deep power within us that can stop us suffering from some of the most life-threatening conditions in the world And as you'll know if you watch the Kali means episode and as you'll know if you follow our content closely Conditions that are inflicted due to big food and big pharma policies to an extraordinary degree We talk about the pandemic and we talk about the necessity of gathering such as community.
00:02:14.000I hope you join us next time You're gonna love this conversation Hello.
00:02:18.000I'm being joined by Wim Hof, who you may know as the Iceman, whose breathwork and cold exposure techniques have led to personal and communal biological and anatomical breakthroughs.
00:02:32.000Thanks for joining me for this conversation, Wim.
00:02:36.000It's lovely to be at Community, at this beautiful festival, which is about, of course, individual wellness and community awakening.
00:02:44.000How do your techniques, Wim, pose a challenge to Big Pharma, to the mentality of Big Pharma, which some people say is a sort of mentality of keeping people sick.
00:02:56.000I don't want to be simplistic, but it seems that Big Pharma does require a certain degree of institutional sickness.
00:03:02.000I don't know how it crept in, but Big Pharma is big because we let them.
00:03:07.000We let them and we don't make use of our independence.
00:03:11.000We are not built to go to a doctor in nature.
00:03:28.000Which in the end makes us able to control partially our body and mind and we get conditioned and then when something happens we don't know how to get into the depth no more because we had no control of that from the beginning because we are too much brainwashed.
00:03:52.000And now we have come up with new ways to regain power over what is ours by the laws of Mother Nature.
00:04:03.000I realize now, for the first time, that you're an anarchist and a libertarian.
00:04:07.000You believe in individual freedom, don't you?
00:04:09.000It's very, very important to you to be free.
00:04:11.000This is called Stay Free with Russell Brand, our channel, for a reason.
00:04:15.000And that's because we believe in as much autonomy and as much independence as possible.
00:04:22.000But when we say stuff like that about Big Pharma, I'm mindful that my mum's had cancer, say, eight times, and she's got well through, like, therapies like radiotherapy, chemotherapy.
00:04:31.000You know, my mother, it might be argued, is alive because of the expertise in medicine, because of the dedication of doctors.
00:04:38.000So, what is it that you're saying, Wim, about Big Pharma that's separate from what we all understand to be areas of science and medicine that are obviously keeping people alive and are beneficial?
00:04:52.000Let me tell you a little story to make that clear.
00:04:55.000At a certain moment there came a mother to my home, a mother of two children, five and seven years, both with brain tumors.
00:05:04.000And the whole society, and chemotherapists, and oncologists, and the departments, and so forth, and she went to all the doctors and they could not help her.
00:05:15.000Because their children, both of them, had a very low developed immune system.
00:05:22.000And she was like, maybe you can do something.
00:05:27.000I said, I don't know what I can do, but I will go to the end with you, until they are cured.
00:05:34.000And she broke into tears, which I feel still now, because that's real!
00:05:40.000We cannot take care of our own children?
00:06:39.000Stop now, and now we're going to start.
00:06:42.000And it only took one week, or actually eight days, because they were being controlled by doctors on their immune cells, every two weeks, to see if they might be now able to get into chemotherapy.
00:07:03.000But they were too low already for too long a time, It only took eight days of a little bit of cold, and playfully doing the breathing, breathing exercises, and playfully going into the cold.
00:07:58.000I have nothing against the pharmaceuticals or nothing against nobody, but I also say we have an innate capacity which is far beyond what we think is possible.
00:08:20.000And both of these children, they knew what their immune response was like prior to your techniques, and they knew what the test... All measured.
00:08:26.000So, you're saying that we have within us, all of us, an inherent capacity to heal ourselves that we are not exploring, and you're saying that both breathwork and exposure to the cold can awaken these techniques.
00:09:31.000So when all the muscles, called the endothelium, which was also the problem in COVID, The endothelium got perforated through IL-6, IL-8, that's inflammatory markers.
00:09:45.000And I told the doctors, but nobody's listening to me, because how can he have a solution?
00:09:56.000The thing is, endothelium is millions of little primitive muscles in the cardiovascular system.
00:10:02.000They begin to help the blood flow to go through, so the blood will go much better to old cells, by which you get a lot more energy in the mitochondria.
00:10:13.000And thus, a cold shower a day keeps the doctor away.
00:10:18.000It means your performance goes way up, the energy, and the heart rate goes down, because all the millions of little muscles suddenly help the blood flow go through.
00:10:27.000And so, the heart, which, if it goes in an accelerated pace, creates a signal to the liver to create cortisol and glucose.
00:10:40.000We are constantly in stress, because we have a stressful condition made by the comfort zone behavior, which not stimulates all our functioning.
00:10:52.000And then you get killer number one in our society, It's cardiovascular-related diseases.
00:10:58.000And hundreds, possibly billions of people are suffering from low condition of life energetically because of the cardiovascular condition becoming so deteriorated, so weak.
00:11:30.000You're saying that we've gotten out of touch with how we were evolved to live.
00:11:35.000The way that we're supposed to move, the way that we're supposed to eat, the way that we're supposed to be exposed to our environment.
00:11:41.000And we've become conditioned creatures that live sedentary lifestyles in various cubes and boxes, eating food that is overly processed, Taking pharmaceutical drugs that are not life-enhancing or life-saving, but are just part of this ongoing system of perpetual ill health.
00:11:59.000You've made it very clear that you're not saying that all medicine is bad.
00:12:20.000Like, when I think of someone like my mum, who's in her 70s, or my dad, who's 8 years old, or people that are watching this that might have conditions like diabetes, cardiovascular conditions, cancer, All sorts of heart conditions.
00:12:34.000How can this deep breath and exposure to the cold be good for us?
00:14:14.000Just awaken to your innate capacity and say all the rest is bullshit.
00:14:21.000You got so much more, at least you have anything to take, to get rid of the obstacles between you and the realization of your beautiful soul.
00:14:31.000Because we have forgotten about the soul.
00:15:09.000Within yourself, into the depth, makes you able to overcome any That sounds almost like crazy, but I am bloody crazy about my life and my wife.
00:15:24.000So, in a way, it's like what you're describing to us is a dormant capacity that we've always thought of as the domain of magic.
00:15:34.000And when you hear a story like, oh, there was a man who's 76 with Lyme's disease who climbed Kilimanjaro in 31 hours, I almost want to like, right, give me that footage.
00:15:44.000I want to see a before test and an after test that says the pros, the presence of Lyme's and then the absence of Lyme's.
00:15:52.000Because we've been trained, Wim, to believe that what we require is a kind of... Most people now, they're gonna live lives where they go through an education system that's, in many regards, in my opinion, about instilling conformity and losing connection with your body.
00:16:08.000And I really respect teachers and devoted people in all professions.
00:18:17.000And have you, after a time of being quite celebrated, and please, God, I pray that the time of celebrating Wim Hof continues, because I think it's in all of our benefit, Have you experienced anything like people criticizing you, any kind of backlash, people saying that your claims are not true?
00:18:31.000I get backlash already for the last 10 years and even more since 2007.
00:18:41.000In 2007, I showed in New York very clearly how to control and influence the vagus nerve in the Feinstein Institute in Manassas, New York, under the supervision of Dr. Kevin Tracy, who's in the board of the jury for Nobel Prize winners in medical achievement.
00:19:04.000He was supervising this and he took me and nobody was able to get into the vagus nerve and how to stimulate it and then I came and I did it!
00:19:52.000There is an arrogance going on, there is a complex going on, and it's within the psychology, settled down, and it's well-rooted in our brains.
00:20:04.000And it is holding us from feeling Empowered, like Mother Nature wants us to be, to be just happy, and strong, and healthy, and we in control.
00:20:16.000And with that, learning about our deeper reality, namely the purpose of our soul, and to realize it, because that's the source.
00:20:25.000And when the source goes, whoa, flows all!
00:20:29.000And there I want to go, backlash or not, I don't care, I'm in life, I have no fear, and I go until it is all done, Mind me, all the gods are with me.
00:20:42.000I'm going to realize the mission my mother gave me.
00:20:46.000At the time of my birth, it was my mother who invocated, because I almost died as the second child, never expected, too long in the womb, And I was born in the cold of the hall just before entering into the operation room.
00:21:08.000And my mother was just pushing me out there with all her belief, God-fearing.
00:21:14.000She was never drunk, never smoked, never... But don't underestimate a mother.
00:21:21.000She there, right there, would say, Oh God, let this child live.
00:21:34.000That's for my mother, that's for your mother, and for all the mothers.
00:21:39.000These techniques, Wim Hof, these techniques, it sounds like what you're describing is that all of us know that we can regenerate cells, all of us know that our cardiovascular systems are operating unconsciously, automatically, all of the time.
00:21:57.000The heart is pumping, the blood is being oxygenated, dialysis is taking place, Thousands of synaptic connections are being formed.
00:22:06.000Much of what you describe is the possibility of intervening with the processes that are usually happening beyond the remit of the individual self.
00:22:16.000Is that you can intercede and intersect with the processes that the body... We all know that the body, if we are cut, The body will heal.
00:22:25.000We all know that the heart is beating right now.
00:22:28.000We know that the stomach acids, all of these thousands, millions of jobs, all of these connections are taking place.
00:22:33.000And when you gave the example of the vagus nerve just then, and with some other examples that you've given in our previous conversations, it seems that you're saying that we can intercede with and direct these natural healing and regenerative processes.
00:23:56.000We don't need suggestive powers or any trickery of that kind.
00:24:00.000It is our willfully controlled power to heal ourselves, which is a network.
00:24:09.000But we have never learned how to connect That psychology over physiology, that neurological network, which is physical, like this, inside, and that makes us able to go up to the cell, past time and space, into ancestral trauma, into the DNA.
00:25:02.000And all these doctors, they say, yeah, Wim, this is the premise, this is where we don't see a solution here, because according to the books and the literature, we are not able to willfully control, say, what heals us, or what is the soul, proprioception, what is your space here in the time, Are you balanced out with your purpose and all?
00:25:32.000All these deeper arcs are now related not anymore to abstract parcels of the brain.
00:25:40.000I showed very recently in a new study how to control the subcortical higher functioning of the brain, which means whatever is A narrow-minded in our brain, now we are able to go out of that loop into all of our brain.
00:26:48.000Interceptive healing then is perhaps something that's been around for a very long time.
00:26:53.000Do you think that there is a lot of forgotten wisdom?
00:26:55.000Do you think that when we're talking about healing traditions and yogis and even, if I may venture, a controversial example, Christ and the example of miracles, that it is possible perhaps to access energy sources and inner resources that we have forgotten and allowed to lay waste?
00:27:15.000When I listen to you speak, Wim, it feels like a lot of the time what we're talking about is things have become commodities, things have become externalised that were previously granted.
00:27:25.000Do you feel that when people are talking about the ability to heal, when people are talking in yogic traditions, when we Here are examples of spontaneous healing from cancer.
00:27:34.000This placebo effect, the body's ability to heal itself if it's correctly directed and guided, is what all miraculous healing in the past has been built around.
00:27:52.000I get so many examples of so many anecdotal evidence, means real people coming to me with cancers and with all kinds of motor or motorical diseases, even ALS.
00:28:21.000I got a faith which is my right to exercise since I was 12 years old.
00:28:27.000Twelve years old, I was talking to my friends, like, being together, and I said, hey, if the world, if they think war, pollution, abuse, depression, disease, etc.
00:28:41.000is normal, then I think the world is sick.
00:28:44.000I think it is sick, and I'm going to do something about it.
00:28:59.000And now I'm able to bring the neurological networks, which were top-down regulated, considered not to be done by humans, I bring it to scientific evidence.
00:29:14.000So, it is now to you to take on, once again, an abstracted, over-individualized society brought in by schooling and Rockefellers and what kind of asshole... Sorry, my French, but they should have been out from the beginning.
00:29:37.000Long before, in the time of Christ, and Buddha, and Zarathustra, and whatever, all these beautiful people, they tried to revive what is ours, and that is the power of healing, and to be holy.
00:29:58.000And so all these great civilizations of before, 15,000, it's all... We have to break this narrative that we should be dependent on industries, healthy economies based on sick people.
00:30:16.000But still we are in it and we are so over mesmerized because they control us through the wrong schooling by which we do not exercise our powers.
00:31:21.000When was the last... Do you experience these things, Wim Hof?
00:31:24.000Things like, you know, because obviously you've been through, we've discussed it on our previous occasions, and I'm mindful that your daughter is in the room, but that you lost your wife and your partner, and this is like such a terrible tragedy, but I don't see in you anything other than ROAR!
00:31:38.000And like incredible intelligence and an ability to communicate and to convey energy and to alter states, and earlier today it looked like you were communicating even with the weather for a moment.
00:31:48.000But like, so I don't sort of see in you like, I'm nervous, I don't know what to do.
00:31:52.000Like I still have conversations like, what should I say about that?
00:34:11.000When you get your hand into that freezing, powerful, cold water, then remind yourself that power can be yours.
00:34:22.000When you go in and you adapt and it's going to be yours and we missed out on that power because it is able to awaken Awaken that deep primordial power within.
00:34:39.000And if you are then, because you are doing it, going controlled, consciously, into that cold water, and you make it your own, then you are into the deepest part of the brain.
00:34:52.000Once you are there, you're connected, then suddenly you are able to go anywhere inside your brain.
00:34:58.000If you go to the deepest, where else can you not go?
00:35:40.000Wim Hof, of course if we do these things, if you teach people that they can, to a significant degree, to a very significant degree, heal themselves, if you teach people to a very significant degree, there is no need for mediating power structures like the state, there is no need for corporate structures, there is a need for organization, there is a need for communication, there is a need There's a need for media, there's a need for medicine, there's a need for travel, there's a need for technology.
00:36:10.000But the framing of these institutions could be radically altered if a significant number of the population were to become aware, present and activated.
00:36:20.000If this message becomes conveyed to a large degree, I figure that there will be significant and powerful opposition Oh yes, but what I say, if the governments are not representing the good of the people, then we have to learn to govern ourselves.
00:37:16.000If you are able willfully to control that what makes you sick, to prevent, to feel powerful, happy and strong, to have a control over the endocrine system, over the cardiovascular system, lymphatic system, all the systems, to go into the depth any time when you need revision, you are like a garage in your car.
00:37:53.000Yeah, you're right about all of this stuff.
00:37:56.000So you don't feel that there are, when it comes to sort of like ordinary everyday politics, for example, the Republican Party, the Democrat Party, whatever's happening in your native Netherlands, How do you deal with issues around left and right?
00:38:10.000Issues like immigration versus national borders?
00:38:14.000Issues like redistribution and redistribution of resources?
00:38:20.000Are these things that you think about on a granular level?
00:38:23.000Or do you feel that by raising the level of consciousness and individual power, these things will, in a sense, automatically be dealt with?
00:38:32.000Because it feels to me that we live in...
00:38:34.000Systemic corruption to an unprecedented degree, where the relationships between private, financial and corporate interests and the state is so kind of, what do I want to say, immersive, that it's a difficult thing to disrupt, and indeed it's getting worse.
00:38:48.000Like, with some new censorship bills that are being passed right now in the EU and across the anglophonic countries, it would be possible for social media platform, for the EU for example, to say, You're not allowed to talk about these subjects online, it's censored, and the social media platforms would just have to take it down.
00:39:06.000So information like you're conveying right now, which I would say would cause some significant financial interest to incur massive losses, massive losses, this is the kind of information that would be censored.
00:39:19.000So I'm guessing that you believe in free speech, but where else do you stand politically, Wim?
00:39:24.000Do you think there's anyone in the political space that is conveying important and necessary information?
00:42:11.000If I don't do nothing, I got a brain like anybody.
00:42:15.000But if I use the power of my intention, suddenly I'm able to go into the abstract parcels of the brain, into the subcortical higher functioning of the brain.
00:42:29.000That's why Everything is so abstracted in society, in politics, in the systemic way to control us, to exterminate wildlife, nature, to come up with DNA and mRNA modifications, etc.
00:42:47.000And more, more abstracting, because we have no control over our abstract parcels in the brain.
00:42:58.000Now we have, so we can bring this down, which has grown out of control, and nobody seems to stop.
00:43:06.000Let me say, I'm a puppy, I'm gonna stop this, because it is shit, and it is jeopardizing my family, and your family, and your family, and your family, and anybody's family.
00:43:18.000So, we're gonna bring back common sense, and we go through science, so there is no speculation, no obstructing there anymore possible.
00:43:31.000I gave you all the footage of the professors explaining what I've been doing lately.
00:43:37.000And together with this, the last thing for implementing into schools, very important, globally, is a control for children through a universal technique that works within a half hour.
00:43:55.000That enabled every child in the world, in schools, to perform a lot better, and to have much more power of regulation over their mood.
00:44:06.000No more shootings in the schools, and pestering, because children get into control of their own mood.
00:44:21.000The proof is there, and we did it with 100 people, and we want to make it into an app together with the Penn State University and Rotterdam University, talking and dealing with professors.
00:44:34.000And we are doing this together, and we did it with 100 people.
00:44:39.000And it shows that if you do these breathing techniques, and you use your intent, If you don't do it, you see task performance in front of the computer, and then stressful signals come through your earphones in, and you are disturbed.
00:46:46.000The people who were doing breathing exercises, just starting in a half hour, they had at least half amount of stress with the same task performance.
00:46:58.000And the people doing regular breathing exercises, really believing in the breathing exercises, Going deeper within themselves, they had about one-tenth of the stress.
00:47:11.000That long term gives them the confidence, the power over their mood.
00:50:52.000Or do you want to become a victim of this runaway, abstracted society creating what came out of our minds, but which is not connected to our soul?