In this episode of Stay Free On Russell Brand's Stay Free on Russell Brand, host Russell Brand talks to journalist Max Blumberg about Tucker Carlson's departure from Fox News and why the Pentagon is so delighted to have him on the same side as them. Plus, a look at the riots in France and why it looks like people have been lied to about what's going on in the streets of France. And why is the government so happy to be on the side of the Department of Defence and the Pentagon on any sort of issue at all? And why does it care so much about whether or not you can speak French? Plus, why is it so important that you can't speak a word of French? And what does that have to do with 9/11 and the CIA? All that and much more on this week's episode. Stay Free, Stay Free. Stay Free! - Russell Brand Music: Fair Weather Fans by The Weakerthans Recorded in Adelaide, Australia Join our FB group: and click here to become a Friend of the Watchdog: . To find a list of our sponsors and show your support by becoming a patron of the show, go to gimlet.fm/StayFree on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever else you get your favourite streaming platform, you can get 10% off your favourite ad-free version of the podcast, free to listen to the show and get 20% off the best listening experience in the world, free of course, plus 20% discount, plus a free copy of the ad-only pricing and access to the latest ad-plan, no matter how much they can be delivered to you decide what you're listening to the service, it's all over the best of it's best, they'll get it, you'll get the most of it, and they'll be the most amazing listening experience, too! You won't even have to pay for it, they're getting it all, it'll be free, and you won't have to watch it anywhere else in the whole thing, and it's only that, you're getting the most beautiful, and there's no longer, and the rest will be the best, and only that's guaranteed to be the world will be guaranteed that you'll be getting a review, and so much more, and more will be more like that, and that's not just that, right?
00:01:01.000Does your mum know you're out this late?
00:01:03.000Or you might already be watching us on Rumble, the home of free speech, where no matter what they tell you, this is a place where people can come together in peace to share opinions that potentially might damage the onward march of an authoritarian movement that seeks to dominate the globe and prevent you from communicating freely.
00:01:24.000We're going to be having a look at the...
00:01:27.000We're going to be having a look at the departure of Tucker Carlson from Fox and why the Pentagon is so delighted.
00:01:34.000Sometimes I think this about radical liberals and whose views I respect and in so many cases absolutely align with.
00:01:43.000Why are they happy to be on the same side of the Department of Defence and the Pentagon on any sort of issue at all?
00:01:51.000Like, when you imagine Woodstock, the late 60s, the civil rights movement, the great hot stirrings of the summer of 68, a counter-cultural movement, the women's movement, all these powerful voices, they weren't In alliance with big businesses and with the state, they were anti-establishment.
00:02:11.000It's so extraordinary to me how things have changed.
00:02:14.000We're going to be talking to Max Blumenthal from the grey zone a little bit later.
00:02:18.000We will not be able to have this conversation on YouTube.
00:02:21.000I think it would be dangerous even on Elon Musk's Twitter, even within his great citadel of free speech.
00:02:29.000Would you be able to openly talk about 9-11?
00:04:33.000They were rioting outside the offices of Blackrock, weren't they, Gareth?
00:04:37.000Because they know that this is about centralised finance usurping the process of democracy.
00:04:43.000And I'm always struck by this, that we are one planet in limitless, potentially infinite space, and on the same Little Planet, with essentially the same kind of interest.
00:04:54.000And I'm, by the way, not suggesting that there should be centralized power.
00:05:56.000Just in your mind, hold the image of that French copper kicking a bin because French democracy has been usurped after all those revolutions and guillotinings they've done.
00:06:05.000Look at the Met Ball, it's meant to have.
00:06:08.000At fashion's biggest night, the cat is out of the bag.
00:06:13.000This year's theme, an homage to the late Karl Lagerfeld, known for his signature black and white designs.
00:06:20.000How, like, they went signature, and they showed Karl Lagerfeld doing a signature, then they went black and white designs, and they showed a black and white picture of him.
00:06:28.000Like, not every word needs to be illustrated with an image.
00:09:46.000This can't be right that this is happening.
00:09:48.000Something is deeply systemically wrong if you can simultaneously have that level of suffering.
00:09:52.000I try to envisage it as one individual.
00:09:54.000If it was one individual, like a female, who was like putting lipstick on her face and was all beautiful and then you look down like a leg and it was all sort of had all maggots in a hastily amputated stump, you'd go, you've got to sort that out.
00:10:07.000Well, yeah, like all beautiful, but then hastily amputated stamp all maggots in it.
00:10:34.000But before we talk about Google Man in a minute, we're going to talk to Max Blumenthal later about... I mean, I can't believe it's true, but you know the story.
00:10:48.000Look, there is no harm in being maladjusted to a maladjusted world.
00:10:52.000It is ordinary to suffer in a world where the value systems are so out of alignment with our evolution, where our diet is out of step, where our lifestyles are out of step.
00:10:59.000If you're like, this is fine, I like this, then...
00:11:30.000I guess the place where the two kind of come together was that what we spoke about yesterday, which is that White House correspondence.
00:11:37.000That's the way in which show business and this kind of ridiculousness come together with the politics.
00:11:46.000At that White House Correspondents' Dinner is where the consensus is achieved by the centres of administrative power, aka the President, and those that are supposed to report on it.
00:11:56.000It ain't that long ago that Woodward and Bernstein were like, wait a minute, we're going to bring down these sons of guns!
00:12:03.000But now it's like, alright, what do you want us to write about?
00:12:22.000I think, I don't think I'm being unfair when I say that that's what he admitted to.
00:12:26.000Also, there's another one of these stories that's a bit like that odd coagulation of paradoxical imagery, but we'll work that out after we've seen this lady in this outfit.
00:12:36.000Kristen Stewart, Vanessa Hudgens, and Jenna Ortega sticking to that colour scheme.
00:13:11.000These are not critiques of these individuals.
00:13:12.000This is a critique of a sort of really crazy system where people are dressing up as cats and stuff for reasons that still seem confusing to me.
00:13:22.000And our own Rhiannon Alley, gorgeous in all black.
00:13:58.000mouses like it's it's not normal to have that happen it isn't i don't think so her own on the carpet lizzo too and kim kardashian wearing 50 000 freshwater pearls her dress took its makers a thousand hours to complete but there's definitely nothing better that could have been done without a thousand hours like we've um lost touch again these are not criticisms of these individuals i know what it's like to be part of that world i was briefly part of that world But what I sense is that we are participating in a gala of banality while there are serious things that need to be addressed and these things don't work either even for the people
00:14:46.000Even though William Blake says the road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom, I think what Blake is saying is that through excess, you recognize that the material world can never really fulfill you.
00:15:00.000And again, this is not about asceticism and the denial of pleasure.
00:15:03.000I have no judgment about how other people live, whether they drink or whether they use drugs.
00:15:07.000Although, of course, illegal drugs, you know, while we're on YouTube, you can't say stuff like that.
00:15:10.000sex and sexuality and consensual situations, it's no one's business etc.
00:15:15.000But this kind of orgasm of idiocy that sits at the heart of our culture to me
00:15:23.000seems like an indication that we're on the wrong path perhaps and look at this
00:15:29.000This is extraordinary because it ties us to a different time.
00:15:33.000Many of you love it when we have Graham Hancock on the show because he's willing to talk about Egyptology and culture and potential ancient civilizations from a different perspective.
00:15:41.000And I suppose what's fascinating about positing that we are not at the apex of the human phenomena right now, that human civilizations have risen and fallen before in the 300 million year history of our planet.
00:15:56.000You can Google that pretty simply, although do you trust it?
00:15:59.000It's possible that there have been other civilizations that have fallen, and many people say that Graham Hancock is not responsible in the way that he presents evidence, but he's an amateur archaeologist, isn't he?
00:16:08.000And I think he presents some wonderful theories.
00:16:10.000Look at this, they've taken some pharaoh out of his carsophagus and given him his voice I've given him his voice back.
00:18:49.000It looks a bit like with that mic in front of his mouth, it's like he's at the Met Gala and someone's gone, what are you wearing today?
00:18:59.000Will you be appearing as the Joker again?
00:19:03.000Where did you get those pearls and did it take a long time to get those out of the bottom of the sea and then polish them and then turn them into a dress?
00:19:12.000Can we have four more years of Joe Biden?
00:19:16.000Can we have a press dinner where nobody mentions, when celebrating journalism, that Julian Assange is in prison without trial in the United Kingdom, awaiting extradition?
00:19:27.000Because of the Espionage Act, because he revealed information that's definitely sensitive, but also, I would say, relevant to the American taxpayers who are paying for these wars.
00:19:35.000Remember, you are paying $1,000 every single year to the military-industrial complex.
00:19:39.000We're going to be bringing your report about that later.
00:21:37.000It's going to annoy China, and you know they don't like that.
00:21:39.000You know, like, what would that be like going in the Gulf of Mexico, where BP like to spill their British petroleum, slosh that all about over a birdie beak?
00:21:54.000But let's see what the world's best and handsomest politician is saying.
00:21:59.000Trudeau's questioned his... Even Trudeau didn't believe that that freedom convoy was as bad as he was saying it was.
00:22:06.000No, this is his staffers who didn't believe it.
00:22:08.000Oh, even his people that work for Trudeau?
00:22:09.000Yeah, so the people that work for him were, like, behind, I guess, closed doors, were kind of like, oh, I'm not sure he should be doing this.
00:22:15.000Do you, with Justin Trudeau, always think, is it Trudeau?
00:23:49.000We're off YouTube already, but like, we're going to talk to him about, well, I think people got the idea that it was going to be about 9-11 saying that the CIA, like the two of the 9-11 hijackers were CIA operatives.
00:24:17.000Or, if you're like a Michael Moore type person, remember Fahrenheit 9-11 when he was saying all the Saudi Royals were getting flown out of there and the Bushes and the Saudi Royal family?
00:24:25.000It used to be that you could get radical stuff from the left, and that's one of the reasons I like Max Blumenthal.
00:24:30.000I don't think he's a right-wing fascist, and I don't think he's an anti-Semite, because I feel like Blumenthal might be a Jewish name I've not asked before.
00:24:40.000All right, Max, are you a right-wing fascist anti-Semite?
00:25:02.000And why they seem to favor sending U.S.
00:25:05.000taxpayer dollars to neo-Nazis in Ukraine.
00:25:10.000You know, they care so much about our history.
00:25:12.000But, uh, you know, it really depends on who you ask.
00:25:16.000what label you want to apply to me. It's harder to get to anti-Semitism accusations for someone who
00:25:22.000is themselves Jewish, I would have thought, than people that are explicitly neo-Nazis,
00:25:28.000do the actual salute and everything, down with the swastika.
00:25:32.000That for me seems like a more legit charge of anti-Semitism. I mean, I think we can
00:25:37.000conclusively say that the Nazis are anti-Semites.
00:25:40.000Mate, can we ask you a little bit about the CIA infiltration of the 9-11 hijackers and how this is
00:25:49.000distinct from the kind of conspiracy theories that have circled around that event
00:25:53.000for the last 20 years or however long it is since it happened?
00:25:58.000Yeah, we can definitely talk about that.
00:26:01.000This was Related to a report we ran, another masterpiece by Kit Clarenberg, who you've had on, and I've written about this case in my book, The Management of Savagery, which came out in 2019.
00:26:13.000When I wrote that book, which is about the history of the US and its allies using jihadists, as proxies, as assets to undermine their geopolitical foes from the Soviet Union to Syria.
00:26:29.000We didn't know as much as we know now.
00:26:32.000There had been an investigation called Operation Encore that the FBI, that involved the FBI agents who had been attempting to prevent the 9-11 attacks or were at least Investigating al Qaeda and that investigation ended in 2016.
00:26:57.0002021, for a 21-page filing by a guy named Don Canestraro, who is the lead investigator for the Office of Military Commissions, which was overseeing the cases of 9-11 defendants, for us to really learn what had always been suspected, and which I got at in my book.
00:27:14.000I said I suspected that two of the hijackers on American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon, Had been recruited by the CIA and by a very secretive and I would say corrupt unit within the CIA that had been charged since 1996 with taking on Osama bin Laden and the Al Qaeda network.
00:27:38.000And, you know, this was widely suspected that they had been possibly recruited by the CIA.
00:27:44.000And it was confirmed by FBI agents interviewed by Don Conestraro in this bombshell filing, which was, and of course it was completely buried, just like a few blogs had picked it up.
00:27:56.000And so Kit went ahead and put all of the details together for us going back through Operation Encore and, you know, taking us to the beginning That's not the same of course as saying that 9-11 was an inside job and it certainly doesn't verify some of the ideas that have circulated although of course it's not the only inconsistency or troubling piece of reporting that's taken place around that.
00:28:28.000And of course, it's well established that the CIA, as you said, participated in the
00:28:32.000establishment of al-Qaeda, funded al-Qaeda, so it's not implausible that there were recruits
00:29:28.000I mean, I remember on the day of 9-11, just hearing that Building 7 had gone down because of the impact to the other buildings, and it just sounded weird to me.
00:29:42.000But I prefer to stick to the facts that I really know the most about.
00:29:47.000And this case is something that, you know, I've followed for years.
00:29:52.000The case of Khaled Al-Midhar and Nawaf Al-Hazmi, who are the two kind of muscle hijackers, supposed muscle hijackers on American Flight 77.
00:30:01.000And It's very clear they were recruited by the CIA.
00:30:07.000So, within the, you know, the theories, or those who hold theories around 9-11, there's kind of three schools of thought.
00:30:16.000Did the CIA do this because they simply wanted to infiltrate al-Qaeda and gain sources, and they protected these sources from the FBI?
00:30:26.000If the FBI had been alerted about the presence, and I'll tell you the whole story of al-Hazmi and al-Midhar, In a second, but if they had not, if they had not protected these sources from the FBI, the 9-11 plot would have been easily broken up.
00:30:42.000So, was it just because they wanted to gain access to Al Qaeda, or did they allow the 9-11 attacks to happen in order to produce what Paul Wolfowitz called in the weeks before 9-11, the catastrophic and catalyzing event that would allow the US to wage a massive military intervention in the Middle East and carry out its and Israel's goals.
00:31:04.000And then there's the third school of thought, which is that the U.S.
00:31:09.000intelligence was directly involved in the plotting of the attack in order to carry out those geopolitical and imperial objectives.
00:31:17.000And in the first camp, as I said, I'm a 9-11 conservative, but these new revelations raise a lot of questions about motives.
00:31:28.000I think it's generally obviously sensible to remain conservative, particularly when dealing with such sensitive matters.
00:31:34.000And even on our channel, where we fuse entertainment and conjecture, we are careful to ensure that we only use reliable information that's already been published frequently from Greyzone, as a matter of fact.
00:31:49.000But if you apply this conservatism in this instance, Where does it take you to even have the information that the CIA had operatives that were on flight 77?
00:32:20.000But in this case, you have, it's pretty fair to say, at least one component of the Day of Planes operation that had been planned for years and years and years to strike strategic targets inside the United States.
00:32:34.000One component was a Saudi CIA intelligence operation gone, to put it conservatively, gone awry.
00:32:40.000So you have Khaled Al-Midhar and Nawafal Hazmi, two Saudi citizens,
00:32:46.000radical al-Qaeda ideologues, who appear at a 1999 meeting in Malaysia.
00:33:00.000This was a January 5th meeting in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, with some of the top lieutenants
00:33:08.000of al-Qaeda, including a figure who was involved in the bombing of the USS Cole just a few
00:33:17.000And here you have CIA operatives videotaping the meeting, apparently they got no audio, they then broke into Khaled al-Midhar's hotel room when he was transiting through Dubai after the meeting, took a picture of his passport and found that he had a multi-entry visa to the U.S.
00:33:42.000Okay, so you have an al-Qaeda, hardcore al-Qaeda operative with a multi-entry visa To the U.S., and not only that, he and his buddy, al-Hazmi, were able to, from there, get on a flight to Los Angeles International Airport, walk off the flight with no interrogation or questioning, and then be picked up at the airport by someone named Omar al-Bayoumi, who is another Saudi citizen operating undercover as an employee of the Saudi Aviation Ministry, or Aviation
00:34:15.000As an aviation employee, so he could, I guess, get access to the airport.
00:34:19.000He then takes them to rent an apartment, gives them $1500 a month for that apartment.
00:34:24.000These are two guys who speak not a word of English.
00:34:27.000They're picked up, according to their neighbors, in black limos every night and are meeting with strange men.
00:34:36.000And it later turns out that they were actually living in that apartment with an FBI informant.
00:34:43.000Bayoumi, of course, turns out to be a Saudi intelligence officer who is managing these two figures.
00:34:48.000And the FBI never learns that these two figures were in the country after attending the super summit of Al Qaeda on their way to carry out an attack that George W. Bush was warned about in Crawford, Texas, a month before it took place in a presidential daily briefing.
00:35:06.000Bin Laden determined to strike inside the U.S.
00:35:09.000This was at a time when the system was blinking red, according to former U.S.
00:35:16.000And what happened was, The director of Alex Station, this corrupt and highly secretive CIA unit which was charged with recruiting al-Qaeda officials, or recruiting al-Qaeda assets, Richard Blee, refused to tell the FBI's unit in charge of investigating al-Qaeda that al-Hazmi and al-Midhar were even inside the United States.
00:35:43.000There are so many more Act of cover up that took place to prevent the FBI from learning about them as this plot progressed.
00:35:55.000They weren't even told that they were on the flight manifest of American Airlines Flight 77 until days after the attack.
00:36:01.000The FBI wasn't even told that they had been at a meeting in Malaysia with a planner, a known planner, of the attack on the USS Cole.
00:36:09.000So the CIA covered this up all the way to 9-11, and it's the same CIA that is responsible in so many ways for fueling the rise of al-Qaeda and keeping it alive to the present day.
00:36:23.000And in fact, yes, you're quite right that you can sort of chart the history of the CIA to the founding of the Mujahideen and also you can say that there are still people in power, as you obviously just did, that are participating, presumably, in comparable programs
00:37:15.000So sometimes even when you're approaching it conservatively in the manner that you understandably are when it's such a potentially incendiary story, it's still difficult not to think I feel that the system of government and deep government in particular is concerning.
00:37:32.000Do you suppose that when we talk about a story like the Nord Stream Pipeline, which increasingly appears to have been an operation conducted by forces of this nature, Do you imagine that with the burgeoning conflict between the United States and China, Taiwan could be subject to a kind of a Nord Stream-like event within their semiconductor industry?
00:38:05.000You know, it's not just And it's not just idle talk.
00:38:11.000Gave me two seconds and I'll pull up the name of the former US General who has actually proposed a US attack on Taiwan's semiconductor industry.
00:38:33.000It's Robert O'Brien and he was a major figure in the Trump administration's kitchen cabinet of national security advisors and.
00:38:40.000He has called for the US to bomb Taiwan's semiconductor industry, which would be actually a much more serious attack on the global economy than Nord Stream.
00:38:51.000I mean, Taiwan produces the majority of semiconductors through its TSMC, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company.
00:38:59.000It would mean just basically a collapse of the global economy in order to prevent the factory and the technology from falling into Chinese hands.
00:39:09.000And this is not just Robert O'Brien calling for this.
00:39:22.000Army War College actually Call made a similar suggestion.
00:39:28.000So, this is not necessarily a call for a false flag attack to trigger a war, but it shows that the US would willingly devastate Taiwan and Taiwan's economy to prevent this critical asset from falling into Chinese hands.
00:39:40.000And it really highlights how the US sees its supposed allies who are really just proxies.
00:39:47.000The US is willing to see Ukraine's economy destroyed.
00:39:51.000And it's best men killed to extend a war against Russia, thrown into a slaughterhouse in order to bleed Russia.
00:40:00.000We should pull up that clip of the mainstream media where that current sitting US politicians said like where they were asked them on the mainstream is this the semiconductors that's like the resource wars of the 90s isn't it where you sort of had we have to have control these semiconductors and they just plainly said on the TV yeah we can't lose control of them and then he went like 10 seconds later but actually this is a war about democracy and freedom just have said it Democracy and freedom is what keeps us motivated.
00:40:31.000I'm glad you kept talking a moment ago because I was, to fill time, going to ask you a question that Firegirl2020 was asking in the chat.
00:40:40.000Did you ask Max if he watched the Met Ball?
00:40:44.000I feel that Max may not know that there was a Met Gala that took place.
00:40:50.000You know, I've been taking a break and I'm in Mexico right now, so I missed out on all that nihilistic dystopian hijinks, but... They were dressed up as cats and stuff.
00:41:20.000In short, do you think that the fact that there are semiconductor factories in Taiwan is not a significant consideration amidst this growing hostility?
00:41:53.000I mean, this is about surrounding and encircling China, creating kind of a pressure cooker effect on China's leadership.
00:42:01.000And forcing China to spend more and more money on its military and less on its social programs and, you know, driving this program Xi Jinping has of building a middle class and redeveloping the country.
00:42:15.000It is also about competing with China, but I assume by now the U.S.
00:42:21.000would be eager to move those semiconductor plants To a place they would consider safer, because as Thomas Friedman wrote, Taiwan is to be the U.S.
00:42:32.000Taiwan is like, if you consider the concept of Israel, as explained by former Secretary of State Alexander Haig, where Israel is an unsinkable aircraft carrier.
00:42:43.000It's a colonial implant in the middle of the Middle East that's a Spartan state, armed to the teeth with the most advanced weaponry, and the U.S.
00:42:51.000is going to use it to attack any country That takes an independent or adversarial position, and that's why Israel has invaded Lebanon, attacked Hezbollah, why it's constantly bombing Syria these days, and it says it's attacking Iranian targets.
00:43:05.000It just attacked deep in Syria and Homs.
00:43:08.000So that's also the role of Ukraine against Russia, a country that's controlled from the outside by the U.S.
00:43:16.000to antagonize Russia, to keep it in a constant state of war.
00:43:20.000to keep its leadership paranoid. And then Taiwan plays that role with China. And to a certain
00:43:27.000extent, South Korea, Japan and Philippines are intended to play the same role.
00:43:31.000Which is why, by the way, the US is so hostile to a peace arrangement between North and South Korea.
00:43:37.000With so many unpalatable truths, so palpably and demonstrably factual, it's clear that you require
00:43:48.000powerful machinery to prevent people assessing reality in those blunt terms.
00:43:55.000You need ongoing deep state operations.
00:44:00.000You don't need people Inquiring about the true nature of geopolitics and the kind of corporate and military relationships and the kind of colonial and resource necessities that underwrite much of the action that we're describing.
00:44:16.000And with the ability for this kind of counter-narrative to be expressed, like either on Greyzone or reported on our channel, you need censorship and surveillance.
00:44:26.000No wonder Julian Assange is in prison.
00:44:33.000What do you think when you see something like that White House Correspondents' Dinner, like this sort of congratulatory circle jerk, where apparently the consensus between the media and the state is sort of reiterated and the framing for what's possible to discuss is reasserted?
00:44:51.000Yeah, I mean, what you see with the White House press correspondence dinner is the most hated group in America.
00:44:56.000Hated more than even Congress, and justifiably so.
00:45:00.000The regular American people hate the media because they know they're being lied to.
00:45:04.000And the media is there, the elite beltway media, giving itself awards for publishing fake stories.
00:45:11.000Going back to the Steele dossier on Russiagate, they were celebrating themselves for publishing fake stories because the means justify the ends, and then the means was humiliating and destroying Donald Trump.
00:45:23.000In this case, it's about celebrating and circling the wagons around Joe Biden, a doddering figure who, I mean, he put on a pretty good performance there, but someone who is simply a representative of the establishment and the kind of subculture that exists inside the Beltway that the rest of Americans are hostile to for justifiable reasons.
00:45:47.000And this is the same press that's trying to lie us into a war with China over Taiwan that's continuing to push this endless proxy war with Ukraine that's basically a cheerleader for that war.
00:46:00.000And that was the main vessel for duping the public into supporting war with Iraq.
00:46:08.000And what they're going to do if there is conflict with China is sell the war the same way they
00:46:15.000It's a war for freedom and they'll cover up any false flag or any incident that drives us into that war.
00:46:23.000And you know who knows better than the press is actually the rank and file of the US military.
00:46:30.000They do not want to go to war with China because tens of thousands of enlisted soldiers will die in the name Of us empire and the so called great power competition that's not just according to me.
00:46:43.000That's according to the center for strategic and international studies, which is a.
00:46:49.000Neoconservative-oriented, very anti-China think tank in Washington, which ran 24 war games, pitting the U.S.
00:46:55.000military against China, following a hypothetical Chinese invasion of Taiwan in 2026.
00:47:02.000lost dozens of ships, hundreds of aircraft, and tens of thousands of service members.
00:47:07.000And Taiwan's economy was devastated, which means you can assume there will be hundreds of thousands Of dead Taiwanese people, maybe millions, maybe a nuclear exchange, maybe nuclear weapons reach China and Guam.
00:47:30.000A lie, but the citizens there were terrorized into believing it in order to test the response systems.
00:47:36.000So, whatever you think about China, I know there are many people watching this who don't like China's system because they saw what it did in response to covet.
00:47:48.000And if that war ever takes place, it will produce an existential crisis inside the U.S.
00:47:53.000that will destroy whatever's left of the of the veneer of democracy and the press.
00:47:59.000Those people cheering Biden like sycophantic, loyal stenographers for the empire.
00:48:06.000They will be responsible and they will be least likely to die because they'll be furthest away from the fight.
00:48:11.000We'll look at the mainstream media now discussing the burgeoning conflict and look at the transition between truth and propaganda that takes place even within the clip.
00:48:26.000It's like the case that would be made in the 60s, 70s and 80s of why America was spending so much money and military resources in the Middle East.
00:49:07.000Because otherwise I can wrap this nicely.
00:49:09.000But let's have a little look at the clip.
00:49:13.000Make the basic case for why Americans not only should care about what happens in Taiwan, but should be willing to spill American blood and treasure to defend Taiwan.
00:51:41.000Pucker Carlson has broken his silence and the Pentagon and Department of Defense are cheering his departure.
00:51:46.000Is it good that the mainstream media has cleansed itself of an anti-war voice?
00:51:51.000Where will opposition to mainstream objectives come from now?
00:51:56.000We're going to be having a look at Tucker Carlson's video response to the events around Fox News and his departure, focusing in particular on the anti-war rhetoric that Tucker Carlson regularly deployed.
00:52:08.000Now of course a lot of people on the left, centre left, I'd call them the neoliberal establishment, are attacking Tucker Carlson, but Where else are anti-war voices going to come from?
00:52:18.000Why did Fox News get rid of Tucker Carlson?
00:52:23.000And where does radical opposition to the establishment agenda come from if anybody who speaks out against the agenda is one way or another cleansed from the system?
00:52:34.000Did you see the White House press dinner?
00:52:36.000What a cozy little jamboree with Joe Biden joking about the free press and how the press and the establishment have to work together.
00:52:44.000The free press is a pillar, maybe the pillar of free society.
00:52:49.000How can you have an establishment and press working together to keep ordinary people ignorant and bewildered and claim that it's anything like a free country with free comms?
00:52:58.000Voices that attack the establishment, that attack the deep state, that attack the corporatization of America and indeed the world are unnecessary at this time.
00:53:06.000That's why Julian Assange is in prison.
00:53:08.000That's why Edward Snowden's in Russia.
00:53:10.000And that's why Tucker Carlson's no longer on Fox News.
00:53:13.000Even though I disagree with Tucker Carlson about a bunch of stuff.
00:53:17.000One of the first things you realize when you step outside the noise for a few days is how many genuinely nice people there are in this country.
00:53:36.000One of the things that I like about Tucker Carlson is he's a kind of frequency jam.
00:53:40.000The way he has those conversations with political figures where he's like, oh okay, oh alright, he's a difficult person to contend with I imagine.
00:53:47.000And one of the things that surprises me is that people that oppose Tucker on cultural issues aren't willing to see that when it comes to things like the criticism of the war, The willingness to attack the establishment, the critiques of the military-industrial complex, the ongoing attacks of the deep state.
00:54:03.000These are exactly the arguments of what was once known as the radical left just 20 years ago.
00:54:09.000Cast your mind back to the late 60s or the early 70s, the counter-cultural movement, the civil rights movement, Black Panther.
00:54:19.000The attacks on radical anti-establishment voices often use the technique of saying, oh, you're far right now.
00:54:29.000But if we are far right for agreeing that the establishment needs to be took to task, then what have they become if they're on the same side as the Department of Defense or the Pentagon or the world's biggest corporations?
00:54:53.000In five years we won't even remember that we had them.
00:54:56.000Trust me as someone who's participated.
00:54:57.000So it seems to me that Tucker Carlson primarily is attacking the mainstream media and obviously in particular his former employers Fox.
00:55:05.000Those of us that were observing Tucker Carlson personally felt that he was getting disillusioned with the limitations of operating within a mainstream space. And it's
00:55:15.000interesting to observe, isn't it? And let me know what you think in the chat and the comments. That
00:55:19.000if you go on the TV and attack the war machine, attack the deep state, attack the mainstream media, attack
00:55:25.000the two-party system, that in the end you will be excluded. It makes you wonder how much control Rupert
00:55:31.000Murdoch has over Fox and how much is a reflection of his own ideology. I used to think, well
00:55:35.000maybe they don't care what anyone says as long as it's generating views and revenue and money and
00:55:39.000power. Like having me on there, it's like they don't care if I'm anti-establishment. They just think,
00:55:43.000who gives a shit what that little limey's saying. But now I'm starting to think, oh wow,
00:55:47.000there's the potential that voices like ours, voices like yours, can really make a difference. And yet at
00:55:52.000the same time, and this is the amazing thing, the undeniably big topics, the ones that will define
00:55:58.000our future, get virtually no discussion War.
00:56:08.000I would say that those are very important subjects, perhaps the most important subjects.
00:56:12.000Demographic change is of course the subject that people say suggests that Tucker Carlson is talking about race and the balance between different races in America and stuff like that.
00:56:22.000Personally, I feel that alliances between cultural groups that are not operating in the top tiers of the establishment is an absolute priority.
00:56:31.000And I wouldn't participate in the promotion of any ideas that turn people of different cultures, colours, races, ideologies against one another.
00:56:39.000Me, personally, that's not the way to go.
00:56:41.000But when it comes to the debate around war, when have you seen in the mainstream media a reasoned debate about trying to pursue a diplomatic solution?
00:56:50.000Debates like that are not permitted in American media.
00:56:53.000Both political parties and their donors have reached consensus on what benefits them, and they actively collude to shut down any conversation about it.
00:57:03.000Suddenly, the United States looks very much like a one-party state.
00:57:06.000That's exactly what Noam Chomsky is saying as well, that there is more censorship in your country, America, than there is in Russia.
00:57:13.000Noam Chomsky, about as far left as it's possible to go without it becoming, I don't know, it's not an angle anymore.
00:57:18.000You'd go back around to the right, which is what a lot of people are saying, obviously.
00:57:21.000Let me know in the chat and the comments if you think that Tucker and Chomsky are right.
00:57:25.000That's a depressing realization, but it's not permanent.
00:57:35.000Hardly anyone's life is improved by them.
00:57:38.000If you look at that White House press conference dinner and you see Joe Biden demanding that American journalists be released from prison, while you know that Snowden is in exile in Russia, while you know that Julian Assange is rotting away in prison, essentially waiting to be exiled or executed, you know that what you're watching is theatre.
00:59:06.000One thing to note is that the Department of Defense and the Pentagon are very pleased about Tucker Carlson's departure.
00:59:13.000At the upper levels of the Department of Defense, news of Carlson's firing from Fox News Monday was met with delight and outright glee in some corners.
00:59:20.000We're a better country without him bagging on our military every night in front of hundreds of thousands of people, said one senior DOD official.
00:59:27.000I would say that a bigger problem for the military are the fact that 50% of their budget goes directly to private military contractors like Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, etc.
00:59:37.000And members of the military are significantly likely to end up homeless, are unlikely to be able to afford their own shelter, and in significant numbers are using food stamps.
00:59:47.000Much easier to blame Tucker Carlson for bagging on the military rather than acknowledging that the military are always used As heroes when convenient, but are discarded whenever necessary.
00:59:58.000What people are suggesting is that the fact that 50% of military budgets end up in the hands of the Pentagon, that $1,000 a year from average Americans is ending up in the hands of the MIC, check those figures, I'm afraid it's true, is not the best way to direct the finances of a country in crisis.
01:00:15.000The following is from the American Prospect, a left-leaning publication who are willing to examine Tucker Carlson from a more interesting perspective rather than someone who don't like him.
01:00:25.000Carlson's insistent distrust of his powerful guests acts as a solvent to authority, frequently making larger-than-life figures of the political establishment defend arguments they otherwise treat as self-evident.
01:00:35.000Tucker's willingness to challenge and mock ruling elites went alongside an obsessively nativist message that alienated viewers who might otherwise have embraced his populist perspective.
01:00:45.000That's one of the aspects of Tucker Carlson that I would query as a person that believes that alliances between different cultural groups are necessary to displace establishment power.
01:00:54.000His popularity with a wide audience begs the question why other nightly news shows that attacked him didn't raise the same critiques without the nativism.
01:01:01.000And the answer to that is of course because they ultimately support the establishment and are unwilling to advance arguments that attack establishment power.
01:01:08.000Tucker Carlson went there, so even if you don't like him, you have to acknowledge that.
01:01:12.000but will not attack the Death Star, the heart of the machine, the MIC, financial interests,
01:01:18.000Tucker Carlson went there, so even if you don't like him, you have to acknowledge that.
01:01:21.000Let me know in the comments and the chat if you agree or if you think I'm missing something.
01:01:23.000One answer is that Tucker Carlson tonight was an outlier in corporate-owned cable news,
01:01:27.000which is typically hostile to independent critiques of executives and political elites.
01:01:32.000The show declined to play the gatekeeping role that many of Carlson's detractors demand of mainstream media platforms.
01:01:38.000Carlson hosted Heads of State in the same week as fringe characters of both the far-left and far-right.
01:01:43.000He tapped into populist insights, cutting through left- and right-wing echo chambers, and put in hard questions to corporate executives and members of the political establishment.
01:01:51.000Though Carlson spent years as a staunch libertarian, he made a populist turn around the time of Trump's election, rejecting many of the free market doctrines he'd previously espoused.
01:02:00.000Republican leaders will have to acknowledge that market capitalism is not a religion.
01:02:04.000Market capitalism is a tool, like a staple gun or a toaster.
01:02:07.000You'd have to be a fool to worship it, Tucker said in a typical segment.
01:02:11.000Our system was created by human beings for the benefit of human beings.
01:02:14.000We do not exist to serve markets, just the opposite.
01:02:17.000What even that critique reveals is that Tucker Carlson is aware that free market ideology is beyond just economic utility and is being used to advance a particular agenda that benefits a particular strata of society and that is deleterious to the values of the majority of people and that we need new principles and new values or perhaps traditional old ones to be at the core of our belief systems.
01:02:42.000Without that we have apathy and inertia in one portion of the culture and a very insidious invisible ideology making sharp incisions throughout the body of the rest of the state.
01:02:52.000That passage of his monologue could have been lifted from a stump speech by Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders, progressive senators whose views on economic policy Carlson has at times echoed.
01:03:02.000Carlson often hosted segments focused on big tech with guests calling for the breakup of Silicon Valley giants and increased antitrust enforcement.
01:03:09.000He's been a frequent critic of trade policies that offshore jobs, a position that's found an unlikely ally in the Biden administration.
01:03:16.000His 2019 story on how hedge fund manager Paul Singer orchestrated a merger of Cabela and base pro shops that destroyed a town in Nebraska had few equals in broadcast news as a critique of financialisation's impact on neighbourhoods and local business.
01:03:29.000Those are the kind of stories and kind of moments that are going to appeal to a lot of people, because many of us are sensing that the current orthodoxy is leading to more centralization, a greater loss of jobs and community assets, a closure of small businesses, all things that started to become exacerbated during the pandemic.
01:03:45.000Let me know in the chat in the comments if you agree.
01:03:46.000Someone speaking out on behalf of those issues is going to reach a broad audience, and it's interesting to see that someone that speaks out on those issues is ultimately extracted from Fox News.
01:03:54.000In the past year, Carlton also broke with the Washington political establishment to express scepticism about the US sending tens of billions of dollars in weapons and security assistance to Ukraine.
01:04:04.000He has questioned the prevailing insistence that the war is not a proxy battle between superpowers and that the United States is not at war with Russia.
01:04:11.000The television host censured the Biden administration after comments made by the president that indicated the goal of US involvement in Ukraine was regime change, which White House spokespeople then had to walk back.
01:04:21.000Carlson repeatedly invited on independent journalists and commentators critical of American military adventurism.
01:04:27.000Political commentator Jimmy Dore told Fox News viewers, your enemy is not China, your enemy is not Russia, your enemy is the military-industrial complex.
01:04:34.000And it's amazing to see those kind of voices on Fox News.
01:04:37.000You're unlikely to see those kind of voices on Fox News after the departure of Tucker.
01:04:49.000Is there a limit to the amount of expenditure?
01:04:51.000And I would add to that, is there a democratic process?
01:04:54.000Could we vote for how much aid to spend?
01:04:56.000Could we simultaneously be pursuing a diplomatic solution?
01:04:59.000Those things didn't used to be called right-wing talking points.
01:05:02.000And the fact that they suddenly are suggests that there's something bigger happening in the culture than just, I don't know, Tucker Carlson is a terrible guy.
01:05:10.000While Carlson largely dedicated his show to criticizing Democratic lawmakers, he also excoriated the failures of Republican leadership.
01:05:17.000In one recent instance, Carlson aimed his signature incredulity at Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's comment that the most important thing going on in the world right now is the war in Ukraine.
01:05:26.000No, the most important thing going on in the world right now is the state of your country, the one you're supposed to run, the people you're supposed to represent, whose lives you're supposed to care about, the ones who can't buy food or gas, the people overdosing on fentanyl, he said.
01:05:39.000The fact that that voice is reaching a large audience, for me, is encouraging and shows that there are people that care about issues that are ultimately about the failing social fabric of America.
01:05:50.000If the mainstream media, as represented by CNN and MSNBC, are not willing to carry those messages, are not willing to go against corporate interests on the issues just listed in that one statement, Then I think it's not only likely, but beneficial that voices from elsewhere take up that cause.
01:06:07.000That ain't the fault of the populist right.
01:06:09.000That is the failure of the neoliberal left.
01:06:12.000Liberal media outlets like The Guardian scolded Carlson for his coverage of the Ukraine conflict, demanding to know who the host was really rooting for.
01:06:19.000Which just sounds like old school, you're not a patriot type stuff that during the Iraq conflict would have been right or left, surely?
01:06:27.000A chorus of op-eds on Monday cheered his ouster and the move to rescue his very impressionable audience from dangerous rhetoric.
01:06:33.000Baked into that statement, of course, is the ongoing assumption that you are stupid, that you can't make decisions for yourself, that you need didactic pedagogy instead of informed news giving you as balanced an opinion as possible.
01:06:44.000And of course, Tucker Carlson opined, and of course he had a perspective.
01:06:48.000Often, frequently, it was at odds with the establishment.
01:06:51.000People don't want to be spoken down to like children anymore.
01:06:53.000I believe people want to be given the information, given the chance to have a conversation, and potentially form new alliances that might be surprising.
01:06:59.000But cable news may struggle to find an entertainer equally skilled at skewering comfortable pieties on the left and right.
01:07:07.000While you have a White House press dinner that celebrates the cosy relationship between the state and the media, you are ousting simultaneously significant and somewhat radical voices from the mainstream.
01:07:19.000Don't be surprised that there's room in the information age for anti-establishment narratives, that there's room for radical voices, that there's essentially room for change.
01:07:29.000When Tucker Carlson says in that video, the old orthodoxies are dying, he's He's absolutely right.
01:07:34.000There's a clear choice that has to be made.
01:07:36.000Do you empower communities to live differently and democratically, or do you double down on centralisation by creating conflict and conflagration?
01:07:43.000It's clear that the latter has been chosen, and it's clear that the former is what's required.
01:07:48.000Voices like Tucker Carlson's are facilitating the potential for a different type of government, even if there are cultural issues on which you hugely disagree.
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