Tate Speech - Emergency Meeting Episode 22 - The Grand Adventure

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02:00:22.000 Oh, when you hear what I have to say, you won't be ready.

02:00:24.000 It's not very often someone has a story more interesting than my own life, so I'm certainly looking forward to it.

02:00:28.000 Well, you both had fun in prison, somewhat.

02:00:31.000 Speaking of fun, yeah, that's an interesting one.

02:00:33.000 So let me play the intro, and then we'll introduce you, and we'll go from there. 0.51

02:00:36.000 Sick, mate. I've got my headphones on because I'm a consummate professional in all things,

02:01:12.000 you know, so I have to wear them, make sure that I can hear things as I'm Mr.

02:01:15.000 Producer. So, anybody who doesn't know the background to who this gentleman is next to me, we're going to start from the absolute very beginning.

02:01:23.000 I'm going to give you an introduction. I'm going to explain who you are.

02:01:26.000 But you and I have already met, haven't we?

02:01:28.000 You met, was it a year ago? Oh, over a year now.

02:01:30.000 I think, what, a year and a half maybe?

02:01:32.000 A year and a half ago.

02:01:33.000 You had some interesting stories then, but I think you might even have some more interesting stories now.

02:01:38.000 And like I was saying, it's not very often I meet somebody who has life stories which are more interesting than my own.

02:01:44.000 Oh, thank you. I'm going to take second place for this podcast.

02:01:48.000 Usually I'm the guy with the stories, right?

02:01:50.000 Because stories come from risk.

02:01:52.000 Because without risk, there is nothing unique to the story.

02:01:56.000 If nothing could have gone wrong, then the story is not interesting to hear.

02:01:59.000 And you certainly had a story where things could have gone wrong.

02:02:02.000 Of course. Always, always.

02:02:04.000 I think every month I almost die and I just come out on top somehow.

02:02:08.000 But it makes the best story, like you said.

02:02:10.000 Bro, I'm glad you're here.

02:02:12.000 Let's start with that.

02:02:13.000 So let me give you a quick introduction.

02:02:15.000 I'll do it officially for you.

02:02:17.000 Miles Rutledge, is that how you say it?

02:02:19.000 Absolutely, man. Also known as Lord Miles, is a British student and vlogger known for danger tourism.

02:02:25.000 Which is where you go to the most dangerous places on earth.

02:02:28.000 In August 2021, during the Taliban offensive, Miles started an Ask Me Anything thread on 4chan, mentioning he was in Afghanistan.

02:02:36.000 He said that he planned a five-day trip to Afghanistan after searching for the 10 most dangerous countries to visit.

02:02:42.000 And he further added that he didn't believe Kabul would fall during his stay.

02:02:46.000 And you went super viral because you were literally in Kabul as America evacuated.

02:02:51.000 Is that true? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

02:02:52.000 I was making friends with the Taliban, with the SAS there. 0.95

02:02:55.000 Okay, so we have to start at the very beginning.

02:02:59.000 You're in Kabul, Afghanistan, while America evacuates.

02:03:04.000 Yeah. As the last ever tourist in the country.

02:03:09.000 I don't know if I should yell.

02:03:10.000 Bro, I like you.

02:03:12.000 I kind of want to yell at you.

02:03:13.000 What were you doing? Well, here's the thing.

02:03:16.000 Here's the thing. I think we can all relate to this.

02:03:18.000 I didn't want to get vaccinated.

02:03:20.000 And it was the only country in the world where you didn't need the COVID vaccine.

02:03:24.000 So I thought, I need a holiday before the job I'm going to start after uni.

02:03:28.000 I was going to go into banking. It was a shit job. 1.00

02:03:30.000 So I thought, I'm going to pop down to Afghanistan. 1.00

02:03:33.000 I'm going to get my adrenaline pump.

02:03:36.000 Not thinking the whole country was going to fall apart around me.

02:03:40.000 So you went to Afghanistan for a holiday because you didn't need the vaccine.

02:03:43.000 Exactly, yes. That's G. Thank you.

02:03:45.000 That's gangster. I mean, I'm anti-vax.

02:03:47.000 I think everybody knows that. I've managed to travel the whole world without injecting it into my blood.

02:03:52.000 But the fact that you literally went to Afghanistan for a holiday...

02:03:55.000 It was worth it. Okay.

02:03:57.000 So let's start at the very beginning. Because I have so many questions, bro.

02:03:59.000 This is going to be a long podcast. I have so many questions.

02:04:01.000 So, before Afghanistan...

02:04:05.000 Where was the most dangerous place you had been to?

02:04:07.000 Birmingham, England. If the people outside the UK don't know, it's the Detroit of England.

02:04:15.000 It's dangerous. I've lived in there most of my life.

02:04:18.000 I've been threatened with knives.

02:04:20.000 I've been mugged a few times as a kid.

02:04:23.000 It's deadly. I would say it's worse than Afghanistan. 1.00

02:04:25.000 It's worse than anywhere in the world.

02:04:27.000 I refuse to go to Birmingham. I will go to anywhere in the world but Birmingham.

02:04:31.000 Same with London most of the time.

02:04:32.000 Well, you're right. England is dangerous, but...

02:04:34.000 Okay. I'm just going to accept your answer.

02:04:38.000 But you're originally British, right?

02:04:40.000 So from a danger tourism perspective, what other places had you traveled to which are dangerous before Afghanistan?

02:04:46.000 Had you been anywhere that was dangerous?

02:04:48.000 Well, the first ever place I went to abroad was Chernobyl in Ukraine.

02:04:53.000 So the nuclear wasteland.

02:04:55.000 But I tried to justify it to myself saying, hey, I'm a physics student.

02:04:58.000 This is somewhat physics related.

02:05:00.000 But no, it was just sounds fun.

02:05:02.000 Let's do it. Okay, so you went to Chernobyl.

02:05:05.000 As you do, yeah. As you do, yeah.

02:05:07.000 Okay. And was that interesting, or is it just a desolate, radioactive wasteland?

02:05:10.000 Yeah, just a wasteland, just a place people abandoned.

02:05:13.000 Almost fell through the floor onto some barbed spikes, some rebar.

02:05:17.000 So that happened. Had to kind of pull myself up, grab myself, falling down.

02:05:22.000 But apart from that, only almost died once.

02:05:24.000 Happens for the best of us.

02:05:26.000 And then I took it as a sign, hey, I should keep going.

02:05:28.000 You know, I should keep progressing.

02:05:30.000 And I was like, hell, here we are.

02:05:32.000 So you went to Chernobyl, you got back to England, and you thought, I need another holiday.

02:05:37.000 Of course. Let me go to Kabul.

02:05:39.000 Of course, you need another holiday after the holiday, from the holiday.

02:05:42.000 Alright, so because my brain works in a very logical, linear fashion, let's start from the very beginning.

02:05:47.000 How do you get...

02:05:49.000 Can the average person, and we're not advocating for this because I don't want to be held responsible, can the average person in the UK right now fly to Kabul?

02:05:57.000 You need a visa. And I'm going to guess, as a professional, you will go via Istanbul, Dubai, somewhere?

02:06:03.000 Yeah, Dubai, Istanbul, maybe Islamabad in Pakistan.

02:06:06.000 The way I got the visa was I went there and I created my own company and I put myself down as a tourism company and I wrote on the letter, I, Miles Routledge, am giving myself a tour in Afghanistan.

02:06:19.000 So I invite myself to Afghanistan.

02:06:21.000 And then the London office said, I said, hey, we need a reason for your travel.

02:06:28.000 We need a document.

02:06:30.000 So I just got an A4 piece of paper and just wrote fun on it, slipped it over, walked out, and they approved it.

02:06:37.000 So you went to the Afghanistani embassy in London.

02:06:42.000 Yes, man. And you said, I want to go.

02:06:44.000 I need a visa. It needs to be organized by a tour group.

02:06:48.000 Luckily, I own a tour group.

02:06:49.000 I started my own and I'm giving myself a tour for fun.

02:06:54.000 And they approved your visa to Afghanistan.

02:06:56.000 I even said, I'll keep myself safe.

02:06:59.000 And I did. Okay, so then you get a visa.

02:07:02.000 Yes. You fly to Afghanistan.

02:07:05.000 You land in Kabul. Yes, man.

02:07:07.000 Is Kabul like a normal airport?

02:07:09.000 Is it like how I'd imagine an airport to be?

02:07:12.000 Do you land and there's like check-in and everything?

02:07:14.000 Because I've been to Baghdad. I went to Iraq like five or six years ago.

02:07:17.000 Oh, yeah. Interesting story.

02:07:19.000 I got invited to help a member of parliament who was fighting on a kickboxing show, and he invited all these famous kickboxers to legitimize the show and put us in the crowd.

02:07:27.000 So when we landed in Baghdad, and I've got some pictures I'll have to find and put them up.

02:07:32.000 We had VIP the whole way through, so I didn't see the airport or nothing.

02:07:35.000 But what is Kabul airport like?

02:07:36.000 Is it like a normal airport?

02:07:38.000 Yeah, it's very small, but completely normal.

02:07:39.000 You go through, you scan your fingers, they ask, why are you here?

02:07:42.000 And again, I present the document saying, fun on it.

02:07:45.000 When I got out, some guy greeted me.

02:07:47.000 He said, hey, do you want me to show you where things are, how to get out?

02:07:51.000 I said, oh, that'd be very kind of you, free of charge, I imagine.

02:07:54.000 You know, just messing with him.

02:07:55.000 He goes, yeah, yeah, free of charge.

02:07:56.000 So I start walking with him, and obviously just a five-minute walk, he goes, oh yeah, Sid, it's that way.

02:08:01.000 Hands out. We're good to go.

02:08:20.000 Oh, it's still there at the time.

02:08:22.000 Yeah, yeah. A few days before, I think three days before the fall of Kabul, they were putting stuff in, you know, armored cars and stuff.

02:08:29.000 They asked, what are you doing here? I said, oh, holiday.

02:08:31.000 They looked at me and they sighed and said, oh, I think I'm going to see you soon and just walked away.

02:08:35.000 Okay. Okay, so you get your visa.

02:08:37.000 You land in Kabul. It's a fairly normal airport.

02:08:39.000 You walk outside. They're trying the taxi scam or the scams to show you where things are, which, to be honest, isn't too unusual.

02:08:45.000 That happened to me in Moldova.

02:08:47.000 It happened to me in Moscow. It happened to me in lots of places that Famos.

02:08:50.000 So that's quite a common one.

02:08:52.000 So I'm trying to imagine now.

02:08:53.000 There's American army all over the place.

02:08:55.000 Yeah. Did you have a hotel booked?

02:08:57.000 Did you have somewhere to go?

02:08:59.000 Oh no, I didn't book a hotel. I just walked around until I saw one.

02:09:01.000 To be fair, there weren't too many tourists in the area, which I kind of expected.

02:09:05.000 I just walked in and said, oh yeah, one room police.

02:09:07.000 And they were like, what NGO do you belong to?

02:09:09.000 I was like, oh yeah, let me write myself a letter.

02:09:12.000 I'm joking. But I just said, yeah, just a tourist mate gave me a visa.

02:09:16.000 They gave me a funny look.

02:09:18.000 And they asked if I can have a visa.

02:09:20.000 They can have a visa to England.

02:09:22.000 Happens with everyone I spoke to, by the way.

02:09:24.000 Everyone wants to come to England for some reason.

02:09:26.000 I mean, I just went around like a Chinese tourist taking photos of everything.

02:09:31.000 It was a lovely holiday. So you just walk around, you find a hotel?

02:09:34.000 Yes, man. How much was the hotel?

02:09:36.000 Oh, about $50 a night.

02:09:37.000 It was a nice hotel. Very nice.

02:09:39.000 Had a pool, had a nice view, had a garden, breakfast included.

02:09:43.000 Okay. And when you answer this following question, I want you to try and answer as a layman, because you're clearly a very brave man.

02:09:52.000 So I don't want you to answer as yourself.

02:09:54.000 Because sometimes when you're trying to make people empathize and understand your story, you have to answer as yourself so they understand your worldview.

02:10:01.000 But you also have to then explain it as a normie.

02:10:04.000 I can do that. So as a normie, did it feel dangerous?

02:10:07.000 No, I wasn't in Birmingham.

02:10:09.000 You've got to understand. I was walking around and I saw people with guns and I thought to myself, you know what, if I get into trouble, everyone can be talked to, everyone can be reasoned with, everyone wants something and I can always provide it.

02:10:22.000 There's always a way out of a situation if you understand people and how to speak to them.

02:10:26.000 I think you understand that as well.

02:10:28.000 Well, that's true. And one of the things about Baghdad that actually surprised me when I was there...

02:10:32.000 Is how much I didn't stand out.

02:10:34.000 Like, I thought, oh, I'm going to stand out like a sore thumb in Baghdad.

02:10:38.000 But maybe because of the American occupation, they just assumed my brother and I were soldiers.

02:10:42.000 We were invisible. People didn't really pay much attention to us.

02:10:45.000 We were just walking around as normal, in crowds as normal.

02:10:48.000 Nobody cared about us.

02:10:49.000 Nobody asked us any questions.

02:10:51.000 Everyone had a gun. Yeah, but we were pretty much just like normal people.

02:10:54.000 Did you stand out? Were people coming up to you saying, what are you doing here?

02:10:57.000 Or is it just like, ah, just another guy?

02:10:59.000 No, just another guy.

02:11:00.000 Everyone in Afghanistan that is white, they all think they all belong somehow. 1.00

02:11:05.000 You belong to an NGO, you belong to some soldier, you're someone in some alphabet society or something.

02:11:11.000 So when I was there, no one questioned it.

02:11:13.000 Most of the time, when I went to a checkpoint, they said, yeah, just give me your military ID. Oh, you're not military.

02:11:18.000 Oh, yeah, NGO ID, sorry.

02:11:20.000 Yeah, yeah, no. And they were like...

02:11:22.000 Tourists? I was like, yeah, yeah. So only if you tell them do they care.

02:11:25.000 Most of the time, you're just another white guy in Kabul. 0.55

02:11:28.000 You just blend in. Everyone minds their own business because, you know, if you are an Afghan, which they knew, by the way, the Taliban were about to take over, and they were seen talking to another white guy, you know, there might be some insinuation.

02:11:41.000 They're colluding or something.

02:11:42.000 So everyone's kept to themselves. So I just had free reign walking around.

02:11:46.000 So when I was in Baghdad, there's another question for you.

02:11:49.000 Yes, man. I stayed in the hotel, and I can't remember the name of it now, which I should know.

02:11:53.000 It's the best hotel in Baghdad, and it was bombed two years before I stayed there.

02:11:58.000 It was heavily attacked. So when we got there, it's now militarized and it's a fortress.

02:12:01.000 But it was bombed and a bunch of people died.

02:12:03.000 But it was the best hotel in Baghdad where all of the foreigners stayed. 0.88

02:12:07.000 Yes, man. This is a side note.

02:12:11.000 I find it very strange when I was in Baghdad that especially in the reception of this extremely expensive hotel, there were so many Chinese people because they were rebuilding all... 1.00

02:12:22.000 America comes along and destroys these countries, but China gets the contracts to rebuild them. 0.58

02:12:26.000 So you had all these Chinese businessmen with like blueprints and loads of Chinese people everywhere in Baghdad.

02:12:30.000 I couldn't believe that one in three people I saw in Baghdad was Chinese, which really blew my mind.

02:12:34.000 Were there a lot of Chinese in Kabul?

02:12:36.000 No, no, but now there is.

02:12:38.000 Now there is. They're starting to come?

02:12:39.000 Yeah, China really bid their time and they said, okay, we know the Americans messed up. 0.88

02:12:44.000 We know they're going to leave.

02:12:45.000 We're starting negotiations with the Taliban. 0.95

02:12:47.000 And then as soon as the Americans left and Kabul got taken over by the Taliban, they instantly struck up mining contracts in the northern provinces, $300 million deals.

02:12:58.000 Infrastructure was just instantly imported.

02:12:59.000 So the plan was there. The Chinese were waiting in the shadows for the Americans to leave and just swooped in, then just took all the money from Afghanistan. 0.99

02:13:06.000 Okay. Okay. I'm getting ahead of myself because I have so many questions.

02:13:09.000 Of course. Okay.

02:13:12.000 I'm a bit jealous, but I have so many questions because this is such a cool story.

02:13:16.000 So I'm just trying to envision it for everyone at home.

02:13:18.000 You've landed in Kabul. You've gone through the airport.

02:13:19.000 You've found a hotel.

02:13:20.000 Somehow. And you're on holiday.

02:13:23.000 You're walking around.

02:13:24.000 You're taking pictures.

02:13:26.000 You're going to the pool.

02:13:27.000 You're effectively on holiday in Afghanistan.

02:13:29.000 Yes, mate. Okay.

02:13:31.000 Fine. Now...

02:13:33.000 Before we continue with this story, why do they call you Lord Miles?

02:13:37.000 Where did Lord come from?

02:13:38.000 Identity fraud. No, I'm kidding.

02:13:41.000 So... Yeah, technically, technically, yes.

02:13:44.000 I spoke to a lawyer and he said, oh, be careful with the story, Miles.

02:13:46.000 I'm just going to tell it anyway. I want to warn you, like, my channel, I'm anti...

02:13:50.000 The Matrix hates me. Yes, man.

02:13:52.000 So... Don't give the Matrix any reasons to destroy your life. 0.98

02:13:56.000 Oh, no, screw it. If anyone does any digging, I'll find out, so I might as well give the full story.

02:13:59.000 What happened was, at 18, I was homeless for three months before my A-levels, right?

02:14:03.000 So I was in a bad situation.

02:14:05.000 And then when I went to university, everyone thought, hey, we'll buy our friend Miles one of his lordship certificates.

02:14:13.000 You've seen them online. Yeah, I've seen it.

02:14:15.000 Yeah, yeah. And he thought, oh, homeless lord, that's quite funny.

02:14:17.000 You know, little gag joke.

02:14:18.000 But I got this certificate and I looked at it.

02:14:21.000 And this is before everyone knew about these things.

02:14:22.000 So I looked at it and thought, this is really realistic.

02:14:25.000 You know, this is high quality.

02:14:27.000 So I thought, you know what, I'm going to try and play the world.

02:14:30.000 And I put on my best suit.

02:14:32.000 I walked down to NatWest Bank at the time.

02:14:35.000 And I waited until lunchtime.

02:14:37.000 So I was really busy and everyone wanted to go on, go off shift.

02:14:40.000 And I walked in, put in my best accent and go, excuse me there, yes.

02:14:44.000 My father bought some land in Scotland, yes.

02:14:46.000 I would like to change my title.

02:14:48.000 And they looked at it and they go, wow, it's shiny.

02:14:50.000 It must be true. And he's got the accent and he's in a suit.

02:14:53.000 They photocopied it and it went on all my credit file.

02:14:56.000 So at that point I was Lord. And every single meeting I've ever done with a government or anything, they have to reluctantly say Lord.

02:15:05.000 Now, I know that's true, and I'll tell you how I know that's true.

02:15:07.000 And I would love to prove this, but I've been banned from every banking institution on the planet.

02:15:11.000 I'm on a politically exposed persons list.

02:15:14.000 I'm on what's called a pep list.

02:15:16.000 So, because I have opinions on the internet, I'm not allowed to bank anywhere.

02:15:21.000 England, New Zealand, Caribbean.

02:15:22.000 There's not a country on earth that will give Andrew Tate a bank.

02:15:25.000 I've been banned globally.

02:15:27.000 But before that, I remember I had an argument with somebody who went to university, and I was explaining that university is a waste of time and money, and I'm richer than they'll ever be, so what's the point in going?

02:15:37.000 And they said, ah, yeah, but life's not all about money, et cetera, the prestige, I've got a degree, I've got a doctorate, I'm a doctor.

02:15:43.000 And I said, bro, I'm a doctor.

02:15:46.000 They said, no, you're not. And I remember calling NatWest, purple card, NatWest, same bank.

02:15:51.000 Oh, yeah. I called NatWest and said, why have you sent me the wrong name on my card?

02:15:54.000 It says, Mr. Andrew Tate.

02:15:56.000 It should be Dr. Andrew Tate.

02:15:57.000 And they literally said, sorry, sir, new card on the way.

02:16:00.000 And from there, all of my cards said Dr.

02:16:03.000 Emory Andrew Tate. I was a doctor to every bank for a good two years.

02:16:07.000 I never had to go uni, never signed up, no student loan, and I was a doctor.

02:16:11.000 So I know what you're telling is the truth.

02:16:12.000 I recommend everybody at home to pull that off.

02:16:14.000 It's fun. So I was a doctor.

02:16:16.000 So I know what you're saying is true.

02:16:18.000 So that's how you became Lord.

02:16:20.000 Okay. And did you start your social media as Lord?

02:16:24.000 Or did you start as Miles Rutledge?

02:16:26.000 And then it came... I'm trying to get everyone to understand how you became famous.

02:16:29.000 Because you've been a niche internet celebrity for a while.

02:16:31.000 Oh, thank you, man. Well, I've been...

02:16:33.000 I was on 4chan at the moment.

02:16:34.000 I just thought, you know, I'm going to share this experience in Afghanistan.

02:16:37.000 It's going to be fun. People are going to ask me some questions.

02:16:39.000 Why not? You know, I didn't think it would blow up.

02:16:41.000 And my handle was Lord Miles.

02:16:44.000 So they asked, you know, why are you Lord Miles?

02:16:46.000 You know, what's this about?

02:16:48.000 And I just took a picture of my bank card, sent it for numbers and shown it.

02:16:51.000 And it was hilarious. So it just stuck at that point.

02:16:54.000 And all the media said, this guy called Lord Miles, he's holidaying in Afghanistan as the Taliban is taking over.

02:17:00.000 And ever since then, it's just my thing now.

02:17:02.000 But my goal, long term, is to become actually a lord.

02:17:05.000 So if the king asks nicely, I'll allow him to grant me lordship.

02:17:09.000 That's very kind of you, Miles. Thank you.

02:17:10.000 I'm generous, man. Very kind.

02:17:12.000 Now, before we cut the Twitter feed and move over to Rumble exclusively, which we're about to do, I want to say thank you to all the Super Chats.

02:17:17.000 Everyone knows I have my own charity, TatePledge.com.

02:17:20.000 You can go there and see who we're helping in the world today.

02:17:23.000 I'm going to play some video later showing who we're helping.

02:17:25.000 And also, you have some stories to tell about charity and NGOs and all these kind of things, so I think it ties in very well.

02:17:30.000 So thank you to everybody who sent us a super chat.

02:17:32.000 We have a $200 super chat, $150 super chat.

02:17:34.000 All of this money goes to Tate Pledge, and you can go to tatepledge.com to see exactly how it's spent.

02:17:38.000 We're the most efficient charity in the world.

02:17:39.000 Unlike all these other garbage charities that pay all our CEOs huge salaries and waste money, we literally just buy food, and I cover from my own money the cost of all the food, the cost of the visas, the cost of the accommodation.

02:17:50.000 We just send guys into the country to help people.

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02:17:54.000 Everybody who's on Twitter, we're going to move over to Rumble now.

02:17:56.000 And I'll give everyone a few minutes.

02:17:58.000 I'm going to play the intro again.

02:17:59.000 Give everyone a minute or so to move over to Rumble.com slash Tate speech.

02:18:04.000 And then we're going to continue with this epic saga from either the world's most brave.

02:18:09.000 No, I'm not going to call you anything other than brave.

02:18:11.000 You are brave.

02:18:12.000 You're very brave.

02:18:13.000 Stunning and brave, right?

02:18:14.000 Stunning and brave.

02:18:15.000 Yeah.

02:18:15.000 So we're going to play the intro and we're going to carry on with the story.

02:18:18.000 Good stuff.

02:18:20.000 Producer Make the best shows Producer Got all the moves Producer Gonna bring the feeling Producer To the emergency meeting Emergency meeting Rumble.com Thank you.

02:18:49.000 Thank you.

02:18:50.000 Right. So you've landed.

02:18:52.000 You flew. You went to Kabul.

02:18:54.000 Airport's fairly normal.

02:18:55.000 They want to see your visa. You show them your visa.

02:18:57.000 You walk out. You find some hotel.

02:18:59.000 It was a nice hotel. What do you do on your first day in Afghanistan?

02:19:03.000 Oh, first day I just go walking around to strangers and talking to them.

02:19:07.000 Some guys have guns.

02:19:08.000 I walk up to them and go, hey, can I have a picture?

02:19:10.000 Lovely stuff. I just start shitposting around.

02:19:13.000 I'm sharing everything on social media. 0.93

02:19:15.000 I'm just taking pictures of complete strangers.

02:19:18.000 They're saying, hey, there's one area just fell to the Taliban.

02:19:20.000 I go, hey, can we go right up to the border with it and try and take a picture?

02:19:23.000 Maybe I can get a little bit close to the Taliban. 0.97

02:19:25.000 Not knowing that two days later, the fall of Kabul would happen.

02:19:29.000 So that was pretty insane.

02:19:30.000 I was just doing normal tourism stuff.

02:19:33.000 Completely normal. Right.

02:19:36.000 There's internet in Afghanistan.

02:19:38.000 You can upload these pictures.

02:19:39.000 There's free Wi-Fi. It's dead slow.

02:19:41.000 Worst internet I've come across, apart from North Korea, I imagine.

02:19:44.000 But it works somehow.

02:19:46.000 It somehow worked. Okay, so you have internet.

02:19:48.000 And people speak English?

02:19:50.000 Somewhat, yeah. Which means very little.

02:19:53.000 But some people speak some English.

02:19:55.000 Some people just know a few words.

02:19:57.000 But everyone has a smartphone, so everyone has Google Translate.

02:19:59.000 And everyone wants to help you out.

02:20:01.000 That's a good thing about them.

02:20:02.000 Okay. So you're in Afghanistan.

02:20:03.000 You're walking around having a tourist thing.

02:20:05.000 So how did you know Kabul was about to fall?

02:20:07.000 How did you start to sense things were going wrong?

02:20:09.000 And what happened?

02:20:11.000 Tell me the story of you're in Kabul.

02:20:13.000 You've gone there as a tourist.

02:20:15.000 You've been walking around asking people questions.

02:20:17.000 You're in your hotel. And then surely something must have happened that made you think, uh-oh.

02:20:21.000 And surely as a human being, part of you must have been concerned and been like, maybe I'm here at the worst possible time.

02:20:27.000 I don't have the best possible time, man.

02:20:29.000 No, so what happened was I was walking around the street just doing some normal sightseeing.

02:20:33.000 And then everyone just starts looking at their phones and looking at each other, very concerned.

02:20:37.000 And you can read the body language.

02:20:38.000 The whole atmosphere gets really, really tense.

02:20:41.000 And what I find out is the Taliban have given an ultimatum to the current government saying, hey, either you go surrender and evacuate or we're going to take the place by force right now.

02:20:52.000 Everyone starts running for banks.

02:20:53.000 So the central bank, I remember the day before, I tried to take out $250.

02:20:57.000 The central bank did not have $250 to give me, $150 max.

02:21:01.000 So people are trying to withdraw their life savings from the ATM. In dollars or in the local Afghanistan economy?

02:21:07.000 Both dollars and Afghani, nothing is left. 1.00

02:21:10.000 The ATMs are dry even before people get there.

02:21:13.000 So everyone starts panicking. People are running around.

02:21:15.000 People start driving on the sidewalks.

02:21:18.000 Complete gridlock at that point too.

02:21:20.000 So I go, wow, it looks like the holiday's ending.

02:21:22.000 I should run to the UK embassy.

02:21:24.000 Of course, the embassy had just left as well a few minutes earlier, knowing this ultimatum was coming.

02:21:29.000 So the embassy evacuated? Yeah, the embassy evacuated.

02:21:31.000 They said they were going to stick around, but they didn't. 0.95

02:21:33.000 So lovely chaps, a bit cowardly. 1.00

02:21:35.000 But I thought, you know what? I need to go to the airport.

02:21:38.000 So I grab a taxi and I'm running to the airport, other side of the city, by the way, worst possible place I could be in.

02:21:43.000 So as I'm going there, I'm trying to book a flight on my phone, you know?

02:21:46.000 And it keeps getting denied.

02:21:48.000 My bank keeps getting denied.

02:21:49.000 And it's because it's £700, $700 in Afghanistan.

02:21:53.000 So it's raised a red flag.

02:21:55.000 So I'm quickly calling that West and I'm shouting at him, going, hey, Taliban are coming. 0.99

02:21:58.000 I need to unblock my account.

02:22:00.000 Thanks, bye! They unblock my account.

02:22:02.000 And then all the flights are booked. 1.00

02:22:04.000 So I'm like, fuck, I'm screwed. 0.99

02:22:05.000 And plus, every flight has been grounded. 0.99

02:22:07.000 So I think, you know what, this has gotten really interesting.

02:22:10.000 What do I do now?

02:22:11.000 And I see a kind of a group of white people walking around and they look like they're military guys, you know, contractors, that type of thing.

02:22:19.000 So, as I'm walking, I see they're walking towards this safe house they tell me about, where all the foreigners have been instructed to go.

02:22:26.000 So I think, you know what, this is a more interesting time to do this.

02:22:29.000 So I'm starting posting some photos, and then some Taliban corner me. 1.00

02:22:33.000 Okay, so you found white people.

02:22:35.000 Of course. Right? You found white people, and you said, I'll go with them. 0.99

02:22:37.000 Mm-hmm. And it's kind of interesting because every single time you're telling me these stories, I have a story which ties into a lot of them.

02:22:43.000 I had a story once. I fought on K1 in China.

02:22:47.000 Oh, really? This is a long time ago, and I can't remember the name of the Chinese town I was in, but it wasn't Beijing.

02:22:52.000 Let's put it that way. We landed in Beijing, and it was another three-hour flight far west, like the Mongol border. 0.95

02:22:58.000 Oh, very far. Yeah, where no one goes.

02:23:01.000 And I remember after my fight, I got dropped off at the airport.

02:23:04.000 They just left me there. And all of the airport boards are in Chinese.

02:23:07.000 I had no clue my flight had been canceled.

02:23:10.000 And I was going up to people trying to find out information.

02:23:13.000 And I guess they were afraid of the government.

02:23:15.000 If you get seen talking to a foreigner, maybe it's a crime or something. 1.00

02:23:17.000 But they were running away from me like they were afraid.

02:23:20.000 So whenever I go up to someone to say, excuse me, they'd go, no, no, no, no, and run away.

02:23:24.000 Airport staff, everyone would run away from me like I had COVID. Pre-COVID. Yeah.

02:23:29.000 And I was like, what's going on here?

02:23:31.000 And I was stuck in the airport by, I think it was six hours in.

02:23:34.000 I tried to buy a bottle of water with a $100 bill.

02:23:37.000 They wouldn't take it. I couldn't get water.

02:23:38.000 I couldn't get anything. And I did what you did.

02:23:41.000 I need to find a white person. 0.93

02:23:43.000 I need to find somebody who speaks English.

02:23:44.000 Who knows what's going on? Who knows what's going on?

02:23:46.000 And I walked around the airport for a good two hours until I found some German businessman who was in the steel business who also spoke Chinese, who managed to negate and fix the whole situation for me.

02:23:55.000 Very kind gentleman. I don't know his name.

02:23:57.000 Let's call him Hans.

02:23:58.000 Hans. Stefan. Stefan Strauss.

02:24:01.000 Stefan Strauss, if you're watching this, thank you very much for that time in China 11 years ago.

02:24:05.000 He managed to talk Chinese and fix it all, and I got on a flight to Bangkok.

02:24:09.000 Eight hours later. I remember that.

02:24:10.000 So I know what you mean. When things go wrong, you're like, okay, I need my people.

02:24:14.000 Exactly, yeah. Someone to explain without bullshit what is going on. 0.98

02:24:18.000 Because most of the time, it's all this bureaucracy. 0.98

02:24:19.000 No one has any idea.

02:24:21.000 But the white dudes always know.

02:24:23.000 Because they always come from the top, sadly.

02:24:25.000 Okay, you're right. So you found these white guys and you said, whatever you guys are doing, I want to do. 0.68

02:24:29.000 And they said, we're going to a safe house.

02:24:31.000 Yes. The safe house was owned by who?

02:24:34.000 Why is it a safe house? What is a safe house?

02:24:37.000 Explain a safe house to me.

02:24:38.000 Yeah, so it's basically a compound, full-on barbed wire everywhere, guards, concrete walls, you can't throw a rock over, that's how tall it is.

02:24:46.000 It's a fortress for such a situation.

02:24:48.000 It's right next to the airport too.

02:24:50.000 So I'm guessing this is where the emergency situation was happening.

02:24:53.000 The place was guarded up to hell and most people couldn't even get in.

02:24:57.000 And before this even happened, I got cornered by the Taliban before I even reached the safe house. 0.54

02:25:02.000 So it seemed like things were going south.

02:25:04.000 When did the Taliban corner you and where?

02:25:06.000 So I was just walking about halfway to the safe house.

02:25:08.000 And I saw some Taliban in the distance.

02:25:10.000 They started running towards us.

02:25:11.000 They started running. And I thought, you know, who are they running towards?

02:25:14.000 But of course, their eyes locked on me.

02:25:16.000 And to them, I looked suspicious.

02:25:18.000 They maybe thought I was someone else.

02:25:20.000 But they cornered me and they told the other guys, get lost.

02:25:22.000 We need to talk to Miles. And I thought, fuck me. 1.00

02:25:25.000 They knew your name? No, no, no. 1.00

02:25:27.000 But I was wearing a t-shirt at the time, let's say.

02:25:30.000 It had my name on it. Long story, long story.

02:25:33.000 I had funny friends, man.

02:25:35.000 Big regrets. But they called on me and they said, what are you doing here?

02:25:40.000 Who are you? Are you military?

02:25:41.000 Are you intelligence? What are you doing?

02:25:43.000 I was like, no, no, just a tourist.

02:25:44.000 I don't believe you. Where are you from?

02:25:46.000 And I said, oh, Wales. And he said, where's Wales?

02:25:50.000 Because you know, no one's heard of Wales outside of Wales.

02:25:52.000 No one's heard of Wales. That's true. No one's heard of Wales. Yeah, exactly. And I showed him my passport and I said, yeah, look, say United Kingdom, it means like a few countries have come together, you know?

02:25:59.000 And he said, so you're part of England?

02:26:01.000 I'm like, no, no, no, no, brother.

02:26:02.000 I'm not part of England.

02:26:04.000 England invaded us. 0.95

02:26:05.000 You know, one struggle, one struggle right here.

02:26:08.000 I'm on your side. 1.00

02:26:09.000 And they're like, holy shit, he's that guy. 0.98

02:26:11.000 And he'd shake my hand and say, so sorry about your situation. 0.98

02:26:14.000 Have a nice holiday. Just let me go.

02:26:17.000 So pretending to be Welsh, you're the first person in history where pretending to be Welsh somehow benefited them. 0.94

02:26:22.000 I'm sure that's true.

02:26:23.000 Exactly, yeah. I don't think anyone else in history has been Welsh to benefit, ever. 0.99

02:26:27.000 Okay, so then you follow these guys to this safe house.

02:26:30.000 These guys are English or American?

02:26:32.000 German, actually. Germans.

02:26:34.000 They're soldiers? I think so.

02:26:36.000 Okay. And they take you because you've come along and they let you in the safe house?

02:26:40.000 Yeah, they thought my story was funny.

02:26:41.000 So they were like, yeah, come on along, mate.

02:26:43.000 These guys have guns? No.

02:26:45.000 No, no, they ditched it. If they have guns, they might shoot on sight.

02:26:49.000 So, yeah, sometimes you have to give your weaponry up.

02:26:52.000 I understand that. So you get in the safe house?

02:26:55.000 Oh, not so easily, man.

02:26:56.000 Not so easily. So there's a big queue.

02:26:58.000 There's a bunch of Turkish people trying to get in that type of stuff.

02:27:01.000 So we walk to the front of the queue because, you know, we're white people.

02:27:05.000 And the guard goes, no, no, we're full.

02:27:07.000 No one else. No one else. And I go, what country are you from, mate?

02:27:09.000 He goes, I'm from Greece. And I go, well, I'm not Turkish, man.

02:27:12.000 Don't worry. Let me in.

02:27:13.000 Let me in. And he thinks this is funny.

02:27:15.000 They go, guy, come on in, man. 0.81

02:27:17.000 So I just tell a really crappy dad joke.

02:27:19.000 They just let me in. And the biggest mistake they did when they let me in, you know what they did, Andrew?

02:27:23.000 What? They gave me Wi-Fi. They gave me Wi-Fi to my hotel rooms.

02:27:28.000 Of course, I started live streaming.

02:27:31.000 So you're live streaming from a safe house?

02:27:33.000 Of course, yeah. And what's going on in this safehouse?

02:27:36.000 Are people concerned? Is there worry?

02:27:38.000 Are there armed guards? Have they set up sentry points?

02:27:40.000 What's happening? How do they know the safehouse won't be overrun?

02:27:43.000 Are they preparing for a final showdown against the Horde?

02:27:47.000 Yeah, they think mortars are going to start flying over.

02:27:49.000 They think we're going to be fully invaded.

02:27:50.000 We might be in the last day of our lives.

02:27:52.000 So everyone's panicking. Everyone's stockpiling.

02:27:54.000 Everyone's calling embassies.

02:27:56.000 No one knows what's going on.

02:27:57.000 No one knows what the plan is because it was meant to be a smooth transition.

02:28:00.000 The Taliban weren't meant to take over, but it was happening. 0.97

02:28:03.000 So we got special forces from every single country barricading themselves in here.

02:28:08.000 And then you've got a few Indonesian workers, so there's a huge language barrier.

02:28:11.000 They're panicking too. They work just normal construction jobs, you know, infrastructure, telecommunications.

02:28:17.000 It's a shit show. 0.99

02:28:18.000 No one knows what they're doing, but I'm just sitting in my room and thinking, you know, I've got something from the vending machine right now. 1.00

02:28:24.000 I have a right laugh. I'm going to post about this, you know.

02:28:26.000 Should be some fun. If I'm going to die, I might as well go out documenting it.

02:28:31.000 Well, that's true. There's no advantage to not documenting your absolute demise.

02:28:35.000 So, how long are you in the safe house for?

02:28:37.000 About two days. Two days.

02:28:39.000 And after two days, what happens?

02:28:41.000 How do you leave? What happens at the safe house?

02:28:43.000 Well, I meet some SAS guys, and they've seen me on the Daily Mail, they've seen me on all the news sites, and they're like... 1.00

02:28:49.000 You're that fucking guy. 0.99

02:28:50.000 I was like, yeah, man. They're like, we love you. 1.00

02:28:52.000 Come on up with us. You have a drink.

02:28:54.000 So these men, these group of soldiers were shit-faced before an operation about in four hours, right? 0.99

02:28:59.000 And they were eating Doritos, packing Pringles. 0.99

02:29:02.000 They were drinking. I haven't drunk alcohol before this, by the way.

02:29:05.000 It's my first time drinking alcohol. 0.99

02:29:06.000 So I'm just drinking, you know, a little bit of whiskey with some fucking SAS soldiers. 0.98

02:29:11.000 We're now in a new Muslim country where, you know, alcohol is clearly illegal. 0.98

02:29:16.000 And I think to myself, you know, this is a great time.

02:29:18.000 They start filming it too. They think it's hilarious.

02:29:20.000 They start showing me their weaponry and how to use it just in case.

02:29:23.000 I think, you know, this is all right.

02:29:25.000 And then afterwards, you know what it has to do?

02:29:28.000 There was a bunch of journalists meant to be adventure journalists, you know, the stuff that I actually do.

02:29:35.000 Wannabes. Yeah, yeah, wannabes, you know, just all for the show.

02:29:37.000 Pussies. Yeah, journalists. 1.00

02:29:39.000 Pussies. Fake. Probably booked a hotel in advance. 1.00

02:29:42.000 Crazy people. But they needed to get evacuated because they were very scared.

02:29:48.000 They didn't want to walk a whole five minutes just to the safe house, even though the Taliban at this point promised everyone safe passage.

02:29:56.000 So these men got charged, what, $30,000 for a five-minute walk?

02:30:02.000 They paid it, by the way.

02:30:04.000 They paid it. I bet they did. Yeah, so these SAS contractors, very happy men.

02:30:07.000 I bet they were. Oh, yeah.

02:30:08.000 Okay, so you're in the safe house, you meet the SAS guys, and the SAS guys say, we're leaving?

02:30:12.000 Yeah, they said, you know what, we've got a safe channel out, we've got C-17s flying in every five minutes, everyone's going out, man, come join us.

02:30:20.000 And you get on a C-17 American?

02:30:22.000 Yeah, yeah, no, British, man, British.

02:30:24.000 British C-17, that flies where?

02:30:25.000 Dubai. Dubai, so I got a free trip to Dubai, too, it was lovely.

02:30:30.000 Good stuff. So you land in Dubai and the saga's over.

02:30:34.000 It gets you better. So I get an email saying, sorry, Miles, you missed your connection.

02:30:39.000 You're technically having terrorism insurance, including your booking.

02:30:43.000 Here's a few hundred pounds.

02:30:44.000 So I thought, you know what, I profited off this holiday.

02:30:47.000 So you got paid? Yeah, basically, yeah.

02:30:49.000 And also I took some level three plates for me.

02:30:51.000 So the Americans are obviously envious of this.

02:30:53.000 All the stuff you guys left behind in Afghanistan, I took a good chunk of it with me and then sold it on eBay.

02:31:00.000 The Dubai people just thought, oh, this guy's walking around with body armour, he must be a soldier, he must be allowed this.

02:31:05.000 So if you just do anything with confidence, you can get away with it.

02:31:09.000 So I became an arms dealer, technically.

02:31:11.000 So this is when I first heard of you.

02:31:13.000 Because this is the first...

02:31:14.000 For everyone listening, this is not his most recent story.

02:31:17.000 Because this is when you first blew up on the internet, because it was the fall of Kabul.

02:31:20.000 You're there. Everyone's talking about how you went there as an adventure tourist.

02:31:24.000 It's all over the media. You manage to get out.

02:31:26.000 You get to Dubai. I guess from Dubai you fly home to England, a dangerous country.

02:31:31.000 Free flight again. Yeah, free flight home to the dangerous country of England.

02:31:33.000 Yeah. What happens then?

02:31:36.000 How long before you return?

02:31:38.000 And what made you think, I really want to go back to Kabul?

02:31:41.000 And please, please, make this make sense to the normal people.

02:31:45.000 It will not make sense ever.

02:31:46.000 That's why people follow me. It's a constant shit show. 1.00

02:31:49.000 So you fly back to England. What happens? 1.00

02:31:51.000 I put on my body armor because I'm in London now.

02:31:53.000 Just in case, you know. And I get given a free five-star hotel in Swindon.

02:31:58.000 Lovely place. Very dangerous, though.

02:32:00.000 Because of COVID. So the biggest concern for them is COVID at this point.

02:32:04.000 So I'm just laughing to myself.

02:32:05.000 I get free room service.

02:32:07.000 Lovely stuff. So I'm just sitting around.

02:32:10.000 The government gave you a free hotel.

02:32:12.000 Yeah. Yeah, as you do, yeah. I mean, they give it to all the other Afghans, and they have done for years, so why not me, I guess.

02:32:17.000 I guess that is true. I don't understand why the British government does that, but yeah, they do do that.

02:32:21.000 It makes no sense at all.

02:32:22.000 Yeah, actually, send them back, send them back.

02:32:24.000 At this point, I'm just sitting in the hotel, looking at the media spectacle.

02:32:29.000 Now, my university calls me up, and I know I'm in trouble at this point, because they don't want international attention.

02:32:34.000 But they can't kick me out, because I've got leverage against love for university, so I'm going to throw a name out there.

02:32:39.000 So you're in uni at this point. Yeah, I'm studying physics.

02:32:41.000 I'm in my, what, second year at this point?

02:32:43.000 Yeah, yeah. So you didn't do my doctor trick to avoid all that garbage? 0.75

02:32:46.000 Not yet. Not yet. I still have time. 0.91

02:32:47.000 You still have time? Yeah, I still have time.

02:32:49.000 And overall, what's your view of, and I know this is a side note, but I think you're going to say what I think you're going to say, and it ties into my overall message, because I believe the modern education system is the biggest waste of time.

02:32:58.000 Of course. Ever. And I think it's designed to put you in debt and indoctrinate you as a slave to the matrix.

02:33:04.000 So I'm very anti-traditional education because nobody learns anything of value.

02:33:09.000 Nobody gets rich. You get in debt.

02:33:10.000 You have to pay the government back.

02:33:12.000 You end up enslaved and they just pump your mind with propaganda for years.

02:33:15.000 So what did you think of university as a whole like?

02:33:18.000 A good 75% of lecturers, I thought, yeah, these people definitely got bullied in school.

02:33:23.000 They got a weird complex going on that they need to be respected.

02:33:26.000 And then suddenly they went into this niche little bit of research that no one cares about outside their niche circle jerk of autistic men researching some derivative or some chemical. 0.96

02:33:36.000 And they think they're important in their little field and they get paid like, you know what, 50 grand or something for dedicating, what, 20 years of research of their life.

02:33:44.000 And, you know, they express their power and exercise it on kids who actually respect them because they want to climb up in the world.

02:33:52.000 I just think it's a Ponzi scheme.

02:33:54.000 Honestly, if you want to earn money, I earn money selling Taliban merch. 0.92

02:33:57.000 I earn more in, what, one month than they do in one year, and they're meant to be geniuses.

02:34:02.000 Well, that's true. I mean, I can't sit here and tell people that it's a solid business idea for the average person, but it's proven itself to be effective for you.

02:34:11.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. And I think traditionally, and I've said this many times throughout my message, that when you find people who ended up rich, they usually did something a little bit unorthodox.

02:34:19.000 I've never met anybody who's truly rich who went to school, went to college, went to uni, got a degree, got in debt, got a mortgage, followed the prescribed system and ended up rich because the prescribed system is designed to enslave, is not designed to allow you to break free.

02:34:32.000 And this is a perfect time for me to mention university.com, which is at the bottom of this video.

02:34:38.000 You can see it there in the scrolling banner at the bottom because university.com is a genuine alternative to traditional education because we actually teach people how to get rich for real, which is what university does not want to teach you.

02:34:51.000 So it's a perfect time to mention. So you're not upset that you've missed any classes.

02:34:55.000 Oh no, no, no. I dropped out.

02:34:56.000 I dropped out of this point. You dropped out to go to Kabul?

02:34:59.000 They really doubled down.

02:35:00.000 I had so much dirt on the university. 0.95

02:35:02.000 I got one of the lecturers kicked out because he was raping kids through, what was it, Tinder? 0.96

02:35:07.000 He was catfishing people. He was one of my lecturers too. 0.88

02:35:11.000 I found out because I was famous in the university, even before the whole Kabul thing.

02:35:14.000 So I was very high profile there.

02:35:16.000 They didn't dare kick me out, but they tried to make my life hard.

02:35:19.000 They said, oh, Miles, you have to go to diversity meetings.

02:35:22.000 You can't publish a book.

02:35:23.000 You can't talk to the media. And I thought to myself, you know, this physics degree is a joke.

02:35:28.000 I'm never going to do any of this stuff in real life.

02:35:30.000 You know, I'm going to take a gamble here.

02:35:32.000 I'm going to drop out. I'm going to go my own way, see what I can do.

02:35:35.000 And if it messes up, I can always work another job.

02:35:38.000 Right. So you're back in England after this, and normally what happens, I mean, I have a story which is semi-famous on the internet where I went to Jamaica and I was robbed in Jamaica, and I said to myself when I was out, I'm never going back.

02:35:49.000 Didn't you think, I am never going back there?

02:35:51.000 Shirley Part, you thought, I pulled it off, I have the story, I can tell everyone now, there is no point in me going back to Kabul. 0.98

02:35:58.000 No, I thought, oh damn, I need to go back quick. 0.78

02:36:00.000 I thought to myself, holy shit, this is a great opportunity because now I can meet a whole different Afghanistan, you know, because everything's changed now. 0.99

02:36:07.000 So I thought, you know, if I go back, I'm going back to a different country effectively. 0.93

02:36:11.000 And plus, what makes a bad story?

02:36:13.000 Going to another country later on or actually going back to the country that I fled from?

02:36:18.000 You know what I mean? Why was I running from the Taliban?

02:36:20.000 You know, what's actually going on? Yeah, it's only the Taliban.

02:36:22.000 I mean... Yeah, man, it's not ISIS. I mean, I've met ISIS at that point, but that's another story, Andrew.

02:36:27.000 Lovely story. But...

02:36:30.000 They're back in England. So where's the next place you go?

02:36:33.000 You must have gone somewhere before you went back.

02:36:34.000 Yeah, South Sudan. I just thought, you know, I'll pop down to this country. 0.99

02:36:37.000 I saw a YouTube video, just an obscure one.

02:36:40.000 Isn't South Sudan extremely difficult to get a visa?

02:36:42.000 Yeah, I did the same trick. Same trick, just inviting myself, said I'll keep myself safe.

02:36:46.000 And they said, so true, Miles.

02:36:48.000 Here you go. And just gave me the visa within a day.

02:36:51.000 At the Embassy in London?

02:36:52.000 Yeah, Embassy in London. Well, no, e-visa.

02:36:54.000 So I didn't even see anyone. See, life is really easy, guys.

02:36:59.000 You just have to hack it and pull some strings, you know?

02:37:03.000 Okay, so South Sudan.

02:37:04.000 I'm sure you're full of a whole bunch of different stories about South Sudan.

02:37:08.000 Because I know, like, the country split...

02:37:11.000 And I saw some other videos on other people who were there, and that was pretty chaotic at the time.

02:37:15.000 And it's one of the poorest countries in the world.

02:37:17.000 And did you just turn up and get a hotel, just walk around?

02:37:19.000 Same thing? Yeah, I didn't even book it again.

02:37:21.000 Just didn't even book a hotel.

02:37:22.000 How long were you there for? A week.

02:37:24.000 A week. Only a week.

02:37:26.000 But I wish it was longer, to be honest.

02:37:28.000 In the north, there was a huge scare where there was three isolated clusters of a virus that killed people just randomly.

02:37:35.000 Like, a whole village just dropped dead.

02:37:37.000 So that indicates a bioweapon.

02:37:39.000 So at that point, I thought, you know, I'm not going to make two international diplomatic incidents in two weeks.

02:37:44.000 I'm going to, you know, go to the neighboring country, went to Kenya, did the whole East African thing.

02:37:49.000 You know, I felt like a white girl just wanting to travel a little bit.

02:37:52.000 Those white girls love travel. 1.00

02:37:54.000 Of course, yeah. And they love danger. 0.84

02:37:55.000 Totally, totally, yeah. Unfortunately, yeah.

02:38:00.000 And then what made you decide, that's it, it's time.

02:38:05.000 I really miss Kabul.

02:38:07.000 Oh, I see.

02:38:08.000 Finally, there's a tourism visa available.

02:38:11.000 So it wasn't, oh, I want to do some risk assessment.

02:38:14.000 I saw it was possible.

02:38:15.000 And as soon as it was possible, I did it.

02:38:17.000 So the tourism visa was suspended for a while.

02:38:18.000 Yeah, yeah. You know, the visa was in flux.

02:38:20.000 No one knew what was being accepted.

02:38:23.000 People were getting denied. But now there was a new standard setting.

02:38:25.000 I thought, this is a perfect time, ladies and gentlemen.

02:38:28.000 Perfect time. Okay.

02:38:31.000 Someone's saying Matrix Attack.

02:38:32.000 It's okay now, Matrix Attack.

02:38:34.000 I don't know what they're talking about. Hmm.

02:38:36.000 Hmm. Is that okay?

02:38:39.000 Alright, I don't know what they're talking about. So I've got a few photos we're going to play here, if we can.

02:38:43.000 There's a few photos I'm going to show here.

02:38:45.000 I'm just going to randomly choose random photos, and you can explain to us what they are.

02:38:50.000 Oh yes, man. Oh yeah, that was...

02:38:53.000 So what is this? That was my latest holiday I went on.

02:38:56.000 So you know when I spent eight months in Taliban prison?

02:38:59.000 Yeah, I was...

02:39:00.000 So we're getting ahead of ourselves now, because this is when you went back, right?

02:39:03.000 Well, no, this is my fifth trip to Afghanistan.

02:39:05.000 Fifth? Fifth, yeah.

02:39:06.000 Oh, I'm addicted. It's a lovely country.

02:39:09.000 Yeah, same in prison, too.

02:39:10.000 I had my laptop in prison, by the way, so I was just taking selfies.

02:39:13.000 Good stuff. You want to look at the third one right there, that one, man.

02:39:16.000 Or the group selfie. Bottom left, third one, yeah.

02:39:19.000 This one? Yes, man. Yeah, so that's me.

02:39:23.000 That's me and the Taliban right there. 0.82

02:39:24.000 My Tali bros. Top T's. 0.82

02:39:26.000 Tali bros. Top T's. 0.99

02:39:27.000 Absolutely, man. Well, I mean, I'm not going to say they're not the top T's.

02:39:32.000 They literally beat the American war machine.

02:39:34.000 Yeah, man. They had nothing.

02:39:36.000 They started with nothing, and then they ended up having the country back after 20 years.

02:39:39.000 That's pretty gangster. It's hard to deny.

02:39:40.000 That's pretty impressive. It's very respectable.

02:39:42.000 They took on the strongest country in the world and won.

02:39:45.000 And they're very happy about it.

02:39:46.000 So let's talk about how you ended up on your last trip, which is...

02:39:49.000 Because I was concerned for you.

02:39:51.000 I want everyone to know at home...

02:39:52.000 Why? It was in Birmingham. You were in Birmingham, but I was worried.

02:39:55.000 I had my own little stint in jail.

02:39:57.000 And when I got out of jail, within the first three to four days, I remember thinking...

02:40:01.000 Is he out of Afghanistan?

02:40:03.000 Because you vanished.

02:40:04.000 Oh, he was in the middle of it.

02:40:05.000 Yeah, that's it. You vanished off the face of the planet.

02:40:07.000 Everyone's talking about how you were kidnapped or killed.

02:40:09.000 No one had heard from you. And I remember getting out of jail and saying, surely he's out.

02:40:13.000 And no one knew. Still nobody knew what was going on.

02:40:15.000 And I was messaging these large Twitter accounts based in Afghanistan saying, does anybody know what's happened to this guy?

02:40:20.000 I'm worried about him. And everyone's like, no, we don't know.

02:40:22.000 We don't know. So you go back to Kabul. 0.75

02:40:25.000 Yeah, fifth time. For your fifth time.

02:40:27.000 We don't have time to talk about all the other trips.

02:40:29.000 Other stuff was just business and meeting people and networking, as you do.

02:40:33.000 As you do, yes. As you do, yeah.

02:40:34.000 To be fair, here's a tip.

02:40:36.000 If there's a new government, like a drastic change, you want to make friends with those people, if you want to do some big business.

02:40:42.000 If you grow into that and make yourself necessary, there's a lot of money to be made.

02:40:47.000 I'm sure there is. Yeah, that's probably very true.

02:40:49.000 That's a good tip. Just disclaimer, before the Daily Mail prints an article, I'm not advocating for anybody to go to Afghanistan or Kabul.

02:40:56.000 I'm just trying to find out.

02:40:57.000 Because what they're going to do is they're going to say, Andrew Tate, toxic influencer and misogynist, is encouraging young schoolboys to go visit Afghanistan.

02:41:05.000 And no, I am not. I'm just trying to understand your story.

02:41:07.000 Of course. Because it's Extremely interesting.

02:41:10.000 So how did you end up?

02:41:11.000 So the last eight months, you've been in prison.

02:41:14.000 Nine months? Eight months, yeah.

02:41:16.000 For eight months, you were in jail.

02:41:17.000 So let's start. You fly back to Kabul.

02:41:20.000 Start from the beginning of this trip.

02:41:21.000 You're doing business. You're going in and out of Kabul.

02:41:23.000 You've decided this is how you're going to make your fortune.

02:41:26.000 Yes, man. So at this point, I've been selling Taliban merch. 0.98

02:41:30.000 So you know the Taliban headbands, you know the Taliban shoes, this type of stuff.

02:41:34.000 I can buy it up dirt cheap and resell it in the West at a nice markup.

02:41:38.000 And I admit that because I'm the only one doing it and it's really hard to get your hands on them.

02:41:42.000 So I had all the permits.

02:41:43.000 It was all good. And when I got back, I would make a nice little chunk of change.

02:41:47.000 And I thought, you know, this is good business.

02:41:49.000 It's better than what I wanted to go into, which was investment banking.

02:41:53.000 And I was like, you know, I'm going to go back for a fifth time.

02:41:55.000 I'm going to do some big business.

02:41:56.000 Now, Andrew, you know that there's tons of Chinese in Iraq.

02:41:59.000 Now there's tons of Chinese in Afghanistan.

02:42:01.000 And do you know why? Why?

02:42:03.000 There's minerals, tons and tons of gold everywhere.

02:42:06.000 The Chinese paid $300 million as soon as the Taliban took over for the mining rights of the northern provinces.

02:42:13.000 Because there's so much money to be made there.

02:42:15.000 Three trillion dollars of minerals.

02:42:17.000 And you know what? Every other country had tried to invade Afghanistan.

02:42:21.000 You know, the Soviets, the English, the Americans, NATO. And you know what?

02:42:26.000 I thought, you know, I'm not going to invade it, but I want a little chunk of it.

02:42:29.000 I want a little bit of business. You want to be involved in the action.

02:42:31.000 Yeah, you know what? I want to make everyone happy and I want to make myself happy.

02:42:35.000 I align everyone's pockets.

02:42:36.000 I align myself's. Well, I understand that because I had a saying I said about money a long time ago, and I said that money is a lot like water.

02:42:43.000 Oh, yes. And it's like the precipitation cycle where it rains and then it falls into a river and then it flows downstream into the ocean and then it evaporates up into a cloud.

02:42:52.000 Then the cloud moves and it rains somewhere else.

02:42:54.000 Money is always moving.

02:42:55.000 Money is never staying still. Even if you put your money into a bank, the bank is using that money.

02:42:59.000 The bank is either lending that money out or investing that money.

02:43:02.000 When you have money in your pocket or in your bank, you spend it on things.

02:43:05.000 So it goes to another company and that company uses that money for other things.

02:43:08.000 If you go buy a Starbucks, you've spent the money, the money has moved.

02:43:12.000 Starbucks buys cups or beans from Colombia, the money moves again.

02:43:16.000 Money is always moving.

02:43:17.000 And if you want to get very rich, what you have to do is identify ways in which money is moving and put yourself in the middle.

02:43:23.000 Just like the precipitation cycle.

02:43:24.000 If you put yourself in the middle of the cycle, you're going to get wet.

02:43:27.000 If you can see how the water is moving, if you can be in the way of that river, or if you can be standing under the cloud when it rains, you're going to get rich.

02:43:34.000 So what you did is you identified that a lot of money was moving in this area.

02:43:38.000 A lot of money is being moved around.

02:43:39.000 So if I'm kind of near it or close to it, I stand a chance of getting some money, which makes a lot of sense.

02:43:44.000 If you want to get wet, you go near the water, right?

02:43:46.000 Exactly. So if you want to get rich, you go near the money.

02:43:48.000 So I understand that mindset.

02:43:49.000 It's very brave. I'm not sure exactly what your plan was, and we don't want to reveal that to the world in case anyone tries to steal it, but I understand.

02:43:57.000 So you go back with the intention of becoming a mining mogul for the northern province of Afghanistan, which the Chinese have bought the mining rights to.

02:44:06.000 So I was going down south at this point because the Belt and Road Initiative...

02:44:10.000 I was covering up north.

02:44:11.000 The Chinese didn't want to go down south. 0.89

02:44:14.000 And from what I understood, the Taliban did not want any more Chinese influence around the country because they saw what's happened in Africa.

02:44:21.000 They don't want the Chinese monopolizing the country. 1.00

02:44:23.000 And they go, you know what, we want someone else, but no one's touching us.

02:44:26.000 And plus, if you've done deals with the American government, which most big companies have, you're ineligible.

02:44:32.000 So I was the only person who was going there and looking at the opportunities.

02:44:36.000 And all the data was there, Andrew.

02:44:38.000 The Americans had taken the samples, the core samples, and wrote a written report saying, hey, exactly this much gold is here.

02:44:43.000 This is how you get it. The number's all here.

02:44:47.000 And I thought to myself, there's literally money in the streets, buried inches below my foot, and no one's taking it out and putting it in their pockets.

02:44:55.000 Okay, before we carry on with this story, because I need to collate my thoughts and make sure I can ask the right questions to get this in a nice chronological order for everyone at home to understand.

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02:50:45.000 So, we're showing another picture here of you with the Talibros.

02:50:48.000 Oh, yeah, man. Not my talifos, honestly.

02:50:51.000 Not the talifos. Yeah, talifos.

02:50:53.000 Right. So you're on your trip back.

02:50:55.000 You've gone back. You've gone to the Kabul airport.

02:50:57.000 I guess you found a hotel. Same story, right?

02:50:59.000 Yeah, yeah. Normal stuff. Normal stuff.

02:51:00.000 So how do you end up arrested?

02:51:01.000 How long are you in Kabul before you're arrested?

02:51:03.000 Yeah, man. So I go down to a neighboring city called Jalalabad.

02:51:06.000 I call it Jalala good because I like it, to be fair.

02:51:08.000 And then I go to a Western Union because the ATMs don't work there.

02:51:14.000 You can Western Union money to Afghanistan?

02:51:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's only a few ways to get money into Afghanistan.

02:51:19.000 One of them is Western Union because it's controlled by the Americans.

02:51:22.000 You know what I mean? The Americans don't want Afghanistan having sovereignty, so they've blocked everything.

02:51:27.000 No swift transactions.

02:51:28.000 It's really terrible. Yeah, it's sanctioned to the roof.

02:51:32.000 Yeah, exactly. But you can Western Union money into Afghanistan.

02:51:34.000 Yeah, exactly. So I've got a house in Afghanistan at this point.

02:51:36.000 It's rather crazy. And I need to pay rent, you know.

02:51:39.000 You rented a house? Yeah, wagey, wagey stuff.

02:51:42.000 I didn't buy, but that's on the table for another trip.

02:51:45.000 How much is rent in Afghanistan?

02:51:47.000 Too much, man. The American price is still there.

02:51:50.000 The three-bedroomed house, about $300 I found in Central Kabul.

02:51:54.000 Quite nice, quite nice.

02:51:55.000 That's not bad, but I guess it's not that cheap.

02:51:57.000 Considering you're in Kabul.

02:51:59.000 Yeah, yeah. You know, it should be a lot cheaper for the average state people. 0.95

02:52:02.000 You know what a lot of people don't know, though?

02:52:03.000 A lot of people don't understand that a lot of the most dangerous countries and places you don't want to visit are actually very expensive.

02:52:08.000 Oh, yeah. Africa's the same. 1.00

02:52:10.000 You think, oh, Africa's cheap because it's poor.

02:52:11.000 No, it's because of international sanctions, because of all the problems, because of how hard it is to access money, because of the banking, etc.

02:52:16.000 It's actually an expensive place to go.

02:52:18.000 Oh, the UN as well. They raise the prices because they spend all the time there.

02:52:21.000 Sorry, they make nothing for the locals because the locals are unprofitable compared to white dudes turning up, you know, for charities and such. 1.00

02:52:28.000 It's crazy. Anyway.

02:52:29.000 So you have a house and by now you have a house.

02:52:31.000 You live, you basically half live in Kabul.

02:52:33.000 Yeah. You have a house. Yeah.

02:52:34.000 I live maybe one day a week, one day a month in England and every other day is just abroad somewhere.

02:52:40.000 How do you pay your electricity bill in Kabul?

02:52:42.000 Like, you're renting this house. Are utilities included?

02:52:45.000 Yeah, yeah, utilities included.

02:52:46.000 It's a great setup. Honestly, I do recommend if A1 wants to go nomad and get out of the West, Kabul would be quite nice. 0.91

02:52:52.000 I don't recommend that, but it's nice that you recommend it.

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02:53:05.000 I'm going to make sure that all of this money goes to good use.

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02:53:09.000 And we're going to continue with this story. So you have your house.

02:53:12.000 You've landed in Kabul. You've gone home.

02:53:13.000 Yes. And you're in your house.

02:53:15.000 And then what happens next?

02:53:17.000 How long were you in Kabul before you got arrested?

02:53:20.000 Well, I realized, I think it was a few days, but I realized, I need to pay rent.

02:53:25.000 I need to get some money out. I need to go to Western Union.

02:53:27.000 So I sent myself about $1,000.

02:53:29.000 And in Afghanistan, you must understand, this is a suspicious amount. 0.67

02:53:32.000 It's a lot of money. $1,000 is.

02:53:34.000 Oh, that's one of my friends. Lovely lads.

02:53:37.000 And we get told, hey, wait here a second.

02:53:40.000 And we wait. And they go, no, you can go now.

02:53:43.000 So when we walk out, we get back into the car.

02:53:45.000 I've got $1,000 in my pockets in Afghani, which is, you know, this activist high.

02:53:49.000 Because the Americans screwed over the currency when they made it. 0.91

02:53:51.000 It's all hyperinflated.

02:53:53.000 And then suddenly, you know, we got a guy with a machine gun, just stands in front of our car.

02:53:57.000 One guy pulls out a handgun, points it close to my head, and they go, you're under arrest.

02:54:01.000 We need to investigate what you're doing this money for.

02:54:03.000 A bit suspicious. We know who you are.

02:54:05.000 You've been here five times.

02:54:07.000 Why? So they knew how long you'd been there?

02:54:09.000 Yeah, yeah. So they're not completely unorganized.

02:54:12.000 They know what's going on. No, they're very organized.

02:54:14.000 They know their people. Their intelligence agency is actually very good.

02:54:16.000 It's called the GDI, the General Directorate of Intelligence.

02:54:19.000 And they're on the ball with things, absolutely.

02:54:21.000 So they want to investigate me.

02:54:23.000 I think, you know what, fair enough.

02:54:24.000 I would question why I've been in Afghanistan five times too.

02:54:27.000 I don't want to keep interrupting this story, but for me to understand it, I have to keep asking questions.

02:54:32.000 So the GDI are the Afghani Internal Intelligence Service.

02:54:36.000 Yeah, like MI6, CIA. Okay, and were they working with the Americans originally, or are they the Taliban's new services?

02:54:44.000 No, yeah, so they're the Taliban.

02:54:45.000 They're the OG people.

02:54:47.000 They're the OG. So they've come along and got rid of the American-led intelligence services, and they brought in the Taliban ones. 0.99

02:54:52.000 Yes. Which is called the GDI. Yes, exactly.

02:54:54.000 Okay, and the GDI's goal is to preserve the sanctity of...

02:54:59.000 I guess, civilized life inside of Afghanistan. 0.54

02:55:03.000 Exactly. They don't care about any other countries or what they're doing.

02:55:06.000 They only care what happens inside Afghanistan. 0.98

02:55:09.000 And they want everything to be safe.

02:55:10.000 They want to decrease terrorism or anything that might cause problems for the average Afghan people.

02:55:16.000 They want shady stuff to stop, basically.

02:55:18.000 And you know what's interesting? And this is a side point, but most people, especially humans, we all gravitate towards peace.

02:55:26.000 And this is actually quite an interesting point I can make in light of the current situation in Israel-Gaza, because you have a lot of people on Twitter who are calling for war and calling for destruction.

02:55:34.000 It's very easy to call for war and destruction when it's far away and you're on Twitter and you want to sound like a tough guy.

02:55:38.000 But the reality of life is that when you reach a point of genuine violence or disorder or chaos...

02:55:45.000 You're naturally going to gravitate towards peace.

02:55:48.000 And as bad as the Taliban are supposed to be, the boogeyman that we say they are, if they can preserve society and keep things peaceful, they're going to be appreciated by the general populace.

02:55:57.000 Because if you don't have the Taliban, you have chaos. 0.93

02:55:59.000 And people would rather have something they understand, better the devil you know, than absolute chaos, right?

02:56:05.000 Because the Taliban do have law and order, a version of law and order. 0.91

02:56:08.000 Oh yeah, it's very strong too.

02:56:10.000 You don't want to mess with the Taliban. 0.85

02:56:12.000 No, no, of course not, no.

02:56:13.000 And if you're a normal man living a normal life, you don't want your store to be robbed, you don't want your daughter to be raped, so you need to have some degree of law and order which is feared.

02:56:20.000 Yeah, exactly. Which is going to be the Taliban, right? 0.98

02:56:22.000 Yeah, the Americans never understood that, and that's why Afghanistan always had loads of problems.

02:56:26.000 But as soon as the GDI came in, I even saw the difference.

02:56:29.000 The streets, peaceful, no prostitutes, no robberies, no hold-ups, no nothing.

02:56:35.000 Everyone is in their place and acting well, which is excellent to see.

02:56:38.000 So the GDI know what they're doing. Exactly.

02:56:40.000 So you've been there five times, you've just got a big chunk of money, and they bust in your door?

02:56:45.000 I'm in the car at this point about to drive.

02:56:46.000 Oh yeah, the car. Sorry, they come up to the car and they put a gun up.

02:56:49.000 Yeah, and they go, you know, stop, get out, come with us.

02:56:52.000 You know, we need a question. I go, you know what, that's routine.

02:56:54.000 No problem, man. No problem.

02:56:56.000 And you go with the GDI. Yeah, and I'm with two friends at this point.

02:56:59.000 They're from the West. This is their first time, by the way, so I'm very sorry to them, publicly. 1.00

02:57:03.000 You brought them? Yeah, yeah.

02:57:04.000 They were my business associates.

02:57:06.000 They had PhDs, so they've gone down a normal lifestyle.

02:57:10.000 But they really wanted to do...

02:57:12.000 You convinced your friends to come to Kabul.

02:57:13.000 Oh, they wanted to come. They begged me to come.

02:57:15.000 And I thought, you know what?

02:57:16.000 I think I better give them a chunk.

02:57:18.000 They saw how much money I was making, how much fun I was having.

02:57:21.000 And they wanted a piece of that.

02:57:22.000 You know, they realized their lives were incredibly boring, man.

02:57:25.000 And they just wanted a piece of adventure, really.

02:57:29.000 They wanted just to travel, I guess, like every white woman. 1.00

02:57:35.000 No joke, I've got one person in my DMs every single day going, Miles, I want to go to Afghanistan right now.

02:57:40.000 Tell me how, and I will go.

02:57:43.000 So all three of you are taken by the GDI from this car?

02:57:46.000 Yes, man. Just a normal investigation.

02:57:47.000 They always, in the news headlines, they tell this nonsense.

02:57:50.000 They always say, oh, secret police kidnapped them.

02:57:52.000 No, no. It's their government.

02:57:54.000 They formally arrested me and detained me per question.

02:57:58.000 Formally? Like you got papers and stuff?

02:57:59.000 Yeah, exactly. Paperwork?

02:58:01.000 Yeah, yeah. They showed me everything.

02:58:02.000 They walked me through everything.

02:58:03.000 They read out, you know, this is what you're entitled to.

02:58:06.000 If you want this, we can give you this.

02:58:07.000 It was very, very professional.

02:58:09.000 And that's why I appreciate it. More professional than the Romanians. 1.00

02:58:11.000 Of course, yeah. No, when you hear what I went through.

02:58:14.000 I didn't have a clue what was going on.

02:58:15.000 So they actually said, oh, here's your rights.

02:58:17.000 Here's what you're allowed. Bro!

02:58:19.000 Oh, yes. See, what I mean, I was kind of enjoying it.

02:58:23.000 I mean, I was like, wow, it's another experience.

02:58:25.000 It's a lovely holiday. Okay, so you go for questioning.

02:58:28.000 Can you say what they ask you?

02:58:30.000 Well, I don't think for Taliban national security, I shouldn't be all there. 1.00

02:58:35.000 But basically, they say, you know, why are you here?

02:58:37.000 You know, typical stuff. Normal stuff.

02:58:38.000 Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, I do this, this type of stuff.

02:58:40.000 And they go, you know what?

02:58:42.000 Your name has come up a few times, to be fair.

02:58:44.000 We need to do a more in-detailed investigation.

02:58:47.000 Sorry about this happening to you, but we're going to look after you.

02:58:50.000 You'll have no problems. If you want, we're going to take you out for a meal before you go to a waiting room, basically.

02:58:57.000 You know, we're going to drive to Kabul.

02:58:59.000 We're going to give you one of these armored trucks at the Taliban ride. 0.98

02:59:02.000 You know, one of those SUVs.

02:59:03.000 Very nice. We're going to take you for a nice restaurant meal beforehand.

02:59:07.000 So you go out to eat? Yeah, I go out to eat with the people that arrested me.

02:59:10.000 It's lovely stuff. Me and my friends are laughing.

02:59:13.000 We're taking selfies at this point.

02:59:15.000 I tell my friends, you know, something's going up.

02:59:17.000 So, you know, if I don't respond, I'm just in custody.

02:59:20.000 No problem. Like, you know, it's another adventure.

02:59:23.000 And then we go to the main GDI headquarters in Kabul.

02:59:27.000 So it's near the Russian embassy.

02:59:29.000 It's a lovely place. The Russian embassy is staffed?

02:59:32.000 I think so, yeah. I think the Russian embassy is open.

02:59:34.000 This is a few doors down.

02:59:36.000 Okay. So, after the meal, they take you to this waiting room.

02:59:41.000 When did you know...

02:59:42.000 That you're going to be there for a long time.

02:59:44.000 When did you know, uh-oh, this was not just a routine investigation or a routine question.

02:59:49.000 I'm going to be stuck here for a very long...

02:59:51.000 Was there a time it clicked?

02:59:52.000 Or was it day by day?

02:59:54.000 Like, what happened now? Oh, yeah.

02:59:56.000 So, when we first got questioned everything, I thought, you know, I'm going to clear stuff up.

02:59:59.000 Should be no problem. But when they started lining up things, I realized, oh, you know, they suspect something bigger.

03:00:06.000 Of what, though? What could you be doing?

03:00:07.000 To be fair, you joke about this, but there are a ton of spies in Afghanistan. 1.00

03:00:10.000 That I hate that shit! 1.00

03:00:33.000 Yeah. Now I'm mad! 1.00

03:00:34.000 You really just fucked me over. 1.00

03:00:35.000 Bro, you know what the thing is? 0.99

03:00:37.000 And this goes into all the things I say to people. 1.00

03:00:39.000 I say, you can't be rolling with bitches. 1.00

03:00:41.000 You can't be rolling with pussies. 1.00

03:00:42.000 You need to know who's on your team. 0.99

03:00:44.000 You never know how people are going to rap when the pressure turns up.

03:00:46.000 The greatest thing about me and my team, like when I sat with Tristan in jail, they would have said to me, oh, Tristan told us I could have laughed out loud.

03:00:54.000 No way! I would have bet my life on it.

03:00:57.000 This guy, you took him on a holiday and he pussies out and fucking sells you down the river? 1.00

03:01:01.000 Oh, exactly. He's not used to stress, so he just fumbled. 0.99

03:01:04.000 Pussy! You know, I always give people one chance. 1.00

03:01:06.000 Now it's gone. Pussy! 1.00

03:01:08.000 Yeah. Did they even let him out for being a little bitch? 1.00

03:01:10.000 Oh, yeah. 13 days my two friends were in. 0.99

03:01:12.000 Vendi went back home. Bruv! 0.99

03:01:13.000 I was there eight months.

03:01:16.000 Yeah. Oh, yeah. So obviously, if you hear, hey, we think he's a spy, and then one of my close friends, my best friend, tells the Taliban GDI, hey, this guy's maybe a spy.

03:01:26.000 That is unbelievable. That genuinely upsets me.

03:01:28.000 And I don't want to disrupt the flow of this story.

03:01:31.000 But I've talked about at length on my podcast and on emergency meetings about how important it is to make sure that you create your circle.

03:01:37.000 That's why we have the war room.

03:01:38.000 That's why we have certain things they say are the sum of the five people you spend the most time with.

03:01:41.000 And it's amazing how people will change when it's no longer in their benefit.

03:01:45.000 You'll be amazed. Everybody does it.

03:01:47.000 In fact, I would actually argue, and I obviously have no statistics for this, but I know everything because I'm top G. 95% for nearly all law enforcement is based on getting people inside the inner circle to rat or flip or lie.

03:01:58.000 That's all they do. They get everyone, you, all your mates, and they just put pressure until someone cracks and lies.

03:02:04.000 That's all they do. That's how law enforcement works in every country, not just Afghanistan, in all of them.

03:02:08.000 So you'd be very careful who you're rolling with.

03:02:09.000 So you're taking this guy on a nice holiday and he pussied out and sold you out.

03:02:13.000 Exactly. Bro. The good thing is, he was meant to be my partner in the goldmine.

03:02:17.000 Guess who has his share now?

03:02:19.000 He's cut out. You know what?

03:02:22.000 If the goldmine goes forward, it's worth millions, guys.

03:02:24.000 Hundreds of millions, so it's worth it.

03:02:27.000 So, they've sold you out.

03:02:31.000 And GDI said to you, we think you're a spy.

03:02:33.000 Yeah. So you're going to stay here.

03:02:35.000 We're going to stay here. But you know what, Miles?

03:02:38.000 We think you're maybe not a spy.

03:02:40.000 You know, we need to do some more questioning to take some time.

03:02:43.000 We really have to comb through your phone, comb through your laptop.

03:02:46.000 Really do our research, because fair enough, that makes sense.

03:02:49.000 But we're going to put you in a nice guest house for now, and you're going to have some staff looking after you.

03:02:53.000 If you need anything, you tell them.

03:02:55.000 But spying for what? What would you be spying on?

03:02:57.000 For a British. That's the thing. They didn't know what. 0.99

03:02:59.000 And telling the British what?

03:03:01.000 I don't know. That's the thing too.

03:03:02.000 I'm not a spy, so I have no idea what goes on.

03:03:04.000 And the thing is too, Andrew, this is what I know about spies, this is what I found out.

03:03:08.000 If you are a spy and you get caught and arrested, most of the time you just admit it.

03:03:13.000 You just admit it. You go, yeah, I'm a spy.

03:03:15.000 And they go, yeah, yeah, no problem.

03:03:17.000 You know, we're not going to cause any problems.

03:03:18.000 You go to the international jail for maybe one or two years.

03:03:22.000 And then you go home. That's usually what happens in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, all these countries.

03:03:27.000 You know, if you are a spy and get caught, you just admit it.

03:03:30.000 That's To prevent torture.

03:03:32.000 Basically, yeah. But I know in Afghanistan they do not do torture.

03:03:35.000 The GDI have been very good with us.

03:03:38.000 So they think you're a spy. Alright, okay.

03:03:39.000 And you go to this guest house.

03:03:41.000 And then I guess it's just week on week it just starts adding up time?

03:03:45.000 Yeah, they're just asking questions.

03:03:46.000 They come with a translator. How often do they question you?

03:03:48.000 Daily. Every day?

03:03:50.000 Every day for a week or two.

03:03:51.000 Yeah, they say, you know, why did you come here?

03:03:53.000 What did you do? You know, Miles, we know you were a spy.

03:03:56.000 We found something. Just admit it and then we'll let you go or stuff like that.

03:04:00.000 You know, every single angle you could think of, they pushed out and said, no, not a spy, mate.

03:04:03.000 Not a spy. Not a spy.

03:04:05.000 Not a spy. Not a spy. Not a spy. At one point, one of the top commanders came and said, I like you, Miles.

03:04:09.000 I like your social media. You've done some good stuff for us.

03:04:12.000 You told some honest truth. If you just give us a spy document on your laptop, on your hidden drive, we'll keep you here.

03:04:20.000 You'll have a cushy life. You'll wait, what, two years?

03:04:22.000 You'll go home. Don't worry about it.

03:04:24.000 We just want to see what the British or the Americans or NATO want to look at.

03:04:28.000 We just want to look at the details, Miles.

03:04:29.000 And I go, sorry, I can't give it to you, man.

03:04:32.000 And at this point, he started realizing, you know, this guy's probably not a spy.

03:04:35.000 So when I was in jail, my number one concern was I was trying to find and get a compendious, concise, coherent timeline for my release.

03:04:45.000 So I was talking to people saying, this is a joke.

03:04:48.000 Very much like you, I was accused of something that I didn't do.

03:04:51.000 Of course. And I'm like, this is a garbage. 0.99

03:04:53.000 How long am I going to be here? 0.99

03:04:55.000 What do you need from me for me to go home?

03:04:58.000 Like, were you not asking them, I'm not a spy.

03:05:00.000 I will prove to you any way you want.

03:05:01.000 I'm not a spy. How do I get out of this place?

03:05:05.000 Like, were you asking them a very simple, straightforward question?

03:05:07.000 How do we solve this situation so I can get on a plane?

03:05:10.000 Oh, I was, yeah. But the thing was, it was still an investigation.

03:05:14.000 And of course, with such serious charges, they just didn't know.

03:05:17.000 They weren't the people who made the decision.

03:05:19.000 Who made the decision? Some people back at headquarters, they gather the information, like any good court system, and they send it to them and they go through a whole court process and they go guilty.

03:05:27.000 Like any other judicial system.

03:05:29.000 Yeah, basically. They're the investigators.

03:05:30.000 They compose a file.

03:05:32.000 Yeah, yeah. And they send the file on to a judge. 0.79

03:05:34.000 Yeah, they see how strong the evidence is, you please your case, that type of thing.

03:05:38.000 So would you say the Afghani judicial system is fair?

03:05:40.000 I think it's solid, yeah. Honestly, I had no problems.

03:05:45.000 No, I did commit one crime.

03:05:47.000 I've got to admit. I've got to admit because it would be unfair if I lied.

03:05:50.000 I didn't have permits to go to one gold mining site.

03:05:52.000 You have to have permits to go in certain areas because if you're just wandering around mountains, the Taliban think, you know, why are you going there?

03:05:58.000 I didn't have that permit. I want to apologise to the Taliban for that. 1.00

03:06:01.000 That was my mistake and won't happen again.

03:06:03.000 But one crime and obviously the whole spy thing wasn't true.

03:06:06.000 And they found that out after a few meetings.

03:06:09.000 And when they discovered this guy has been coming to Afghanistan, he said some good stuff, some honest stuff about the country.

03:06:15.000 He's made some good videos about it.

03:06:16.000 They love my YouTube video, by the way.

03:06:18.000 One of me shooting guns with the Taliban.

03:06:20.000 So let me reiterate this to everyone at home.

03:06:21.000 Anyone who's not been through a judicial process, and I've recently just been through one, the way it typically works is they try and separate all the systems to prevent corruption.

03:06:28.000 So what happens is the police officers just have a very simple job, which is to collect evidence and to collect you.

03:06:33.000 They take you, they put you somewhere, they collect evidence that you've done a crime, they put together a file, and then it goes to a judge, which is supposed to be a completely separate branch of the state, who then reviews the evidence and decides if there's enough evidence to hold you, to charge you, to put you in jail, whatever.

03:06:48.000 And the reason it's separated is so that the police themselves are not the ones who decide you go to jail.

03:06:53.000 The judge doesn't meet you, doesn't know you, he just looks at the evidence, the hard evidence in front of you.

03:06:57.000 Obviously in corrupt countries, in some countries, they're very linked, right?

03:07:01.000 So when the police put together a file, the judge is like, well, I trust the police because the police are Afghani. 0.98

03:07:06.000 I'm Afghani. He's from wherever.

03:07:07.000 Who cares? Jail. That's how it works, typically. 0.93

03:07:09.000 And it can work in lots of different countries this way.

03:07:11.000 There's some very rich countries, I'm not going to say the names of, where you will be surprised how the courts, the judges, are working hands in hands with the prosecution to ensure that people are getting destroyed and wrecked And I don't even have to say the names because the brain understands what I'm talking about here.

03:07:25.000 So your number one concern when you're in a judicial process is, are the judges fair?

03:07:30.000 Are the judges going to review the evidence against me and come to a fair conclusion?

03:07:34.000 Or are they bought, paid for, corrupt, or hands in hands with the prosecution and just instantly going to say I'm guilty just because they can say I'm guilty and they're a judge and no one can do anything about it anyway?

03:07:43.000 But you're saying in your experience what you truly believe is they investigated you, they composed their file, and it was sent on to a judge, and you believe the Afghani system, the Afghanistani system under the Taliban is a fair judicial system.

03:07:55.000 Oh yeah, it's not corrupt. Corruption in a Muslim country is very hard to find in Afghanistan. 0.94

03:08:00.000 It's true. It's better than Romania. 1.00

03:08:02.000 It's way better than Romania. 1.00

03:08:03.000 We're in Romania right now, so I don't want to make any headlines.

03:08:06.000 But um... Oh, it's Hoover.

03:08:08.000 No, no. But I'm flabbergasted, and I'll tell you why.

03:08:10.000 Oh, yeah. I'm flabbergasted because that's the primary concern, right?

03:08:14.000 And the fact that they have such a separated system, and obviously under Islamic law, corruption is against the rules, of course.

03:08:20.000 But there's going to be a degree of prejudice that exists within the tribalism of humanity.

03:08:24.000 That's reality when they are Afghani as a judge and the prosecutor or the police officer is Afghani and you are a foreigner Especially based on I don't know the fact that Kabul just fell and the very interesting history of Afghanistan It'd be very easy for them to just assume the worst or perhaps look at some evidence Which isn't that damning and make a mountain out of a molehill? 0.98

03:08:45.000 It's very easy But you're saying it was actually very that you believe they were doing a very fair job which impresses me and I'll tell you why I was having a conversation with one of my friends the other day I won't say who and he was talking about a judicial process.

03:08:54.000 He's going through and he's saying I Don't know where I can get a free shot anymore. I don't believe in the American judicial system Look what they're doing to Trump. I don't believe in the British judicial system.

03:09:03.000 Look at some of the decisions they make.

03:09:04.000 If you're an enemy of the state, or if the media don't like you, or if the public don't like you, they will screw you over regardless of how innocent you are.

03:09:11.000 And the judge is bought and paid for based on public opinion.

03:09:14.000 And he's directly going to do exactly what the prosecutor wants.

03:09:17.000 And he was trying to go through and name countries to me and explain to me how difficult it is to have a free and fair judicial system.

03:09:23.000 He was explaining to me that the French system is a complete mess.

03:09:26.000 The Spanish system is a complete mess. 1.00

03:09:28.000 The Japanese system is one of the worst. 1.00

03:09:30.000 They have a 99.8% conviction rate.

03:09:31.000 You do not have a 99.8% conviction rate without putting innocent people in jail.

03:09:35.000 If a prosecutor says you might have done something in Japan, the court says you did it, you're going to jail.

03:09:39.000 Done. You're not going to win in court.

03:09:41.000 It's over. So you're saying...

03:09:44.000 That you get a fair shot in Afghanistan.

03:09:46.000 So if you're in Afghanistan and you do something wrong, you get a fair chance. 1.00

03:09:49.000 Exactly, yes. That's good to know.

03:09:51.000 It was very fair. I wish you told me this before.

03:09:53.000 I had this conversation like a week ago and I was saying, bro, I don't know where it's fair.

03:09:56.000 I didn't invite you. But I didn't cross my mind.

03:09:58.000 It didn't cross my mind in Afghanistan.

03:10:00.000 I should have known. See, every time I tell someone to have a holiday in Afghanistan, they laugh. 1.00

03:10:03.000 But look at me. I enjoyed myself and I was treated fairly.

03:10:06.000 No problem. So the basic story is you spent eight months in a guest house while they investigated.

03:10:11.000 Yes, man. Correlated evidence.

03:10:12.000 Yes. Put it in front of a judge.

03:10:14.000 Yes. And the judge decided you weren't a spy.

03:10:16.000 No, I want to spy. The only thing is I didn't have a permit.

03:10:18.000 Very small crime.

03:10:20.000 Most of the time they were just laughing at it.

03:10:21.000 They were like, you know, you're not familiar with our rules.

03:10:24.000 These guys spoke English? Yeah, yeah.

03:10:25.000 They had one guy, fluent English, translator.

03:10:28.000 The other top commanders spoke conversational English.

03:10:31.000 Very good men. Very good men.

03:10:32.000 They spoke like eight languages.

03:10:34.000 Some of them were actually doctors, so some of them were PhDs.

03:10:37.000 Maybe they pulled the same trick you did.

03:10:39.000 But honestly, they were solid.

03:10:41.000 And it got to the point where they found me interesting.

03:10:43.000 And they were like, you know what? You want to do business here?

03:10:45.000 Let's talk business. So I was having picnics with the Taliban intelligence, with the Taliban commanders, with some of the ministers in Afghanistan.

03:10:53.000 At this point, it was just one big networking event for me.

03:10:56.000 And I rather enjoyed it. That's me in Taliban prison right there.

03:10:58.000 Good stuff. I'm smiling.

03:11:01.000 Everyone thinks I'm being beaten.

03:11:02.000 I'm being tortured. They think, oh, I'm regretting my situation.

03:11:05.000 I'm smiling ear to ear right there.

03:11:08.000 Describe, if you will, Afghanistani jail to me.

03:11:12.000 So you're in this guest house. So it's not the normal jail.

03:11:15.000 No, no. Did you see the normal jail?

03:11:17.000 No, no. So this is for the small criminals, the people who may have made a small mistake.

03:11:21.000 You know, something genuine, something that hasn't directly hurt someone or isn't a huge security risk to Afghans, like a spy or a terrorist.

03:11:28.000 So this jail is just a normal guest house being converted.

03:11:32.000 There were eight Taliban people.

03:11:33.000 Now they introduced themselves to me as my servants.

03:11:37.000 And I was their guest.

03:11:38.000 You know, if I needed something, I asked them through Google Translate or through the Pashto that I know, and they would get it for me 100% of the time.

03:11:46.000 If I wanted, you know, a movie downloaded, I would give them Tim Ashgani or they would pay and they would go to the market and get it for me.

03:11:54.000 They went to extreme lengths to get exactly what I wanted.

03:11:57.000 And he did it for the other people too that were there.

03:11:59.000 It was a normal house.

03:12:00.000 Of course, sometimes I was allowed outside on supervised visits to the market.

03:12:05.000 Uh, once I went to a Kabul water park, uh, with the guys, that was good.

03:12:10.000 So it was like, it was like a full on holiday. 0.98

03:12:12.000 If anything, I was kind of smiling to myself thinking I'm a lucky shit right here. 0.99

03:12:15.000 I'm enjoying myself. I spent 24 hours a day in lockdown in a room smaller than something. 0.98

03:12:20.000 You didn't do as well. Something I didn't do with cockroaches. 0.99

03:12:22.000 And you're telling me you were in a house and was allowed to go to the market.

03:12:24.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Seriously, I had my laptop with me.

03:12:27.000 So with the Taliban, I was watching Titanic and Rambo. 1.00

03:12:30.000 I was watching Rambo 3 in Afghanistan.

03:12:33.000 If someone were to say to me before this story, Andrew, would you rather go to Taliban jail or Romanian jail?

03:12:38.000 I would have chosen Romanian jail. 1.00

03:12:40.000 But I was 24 hours a day locked down in a room.

03:12:42.000 I did not get to leave. I did not go outside.

03:12:44.000 We had an infestation of cockroaches.

03:12:46.000 And I sat there killing bugs for 24 hours a day for 93 days.

03:12:50.000 I didn't see sunlight unless I was being marched to court in handcuffs.

03:12:53.000 And you're telling me you got to go to the market.

03:12:55.000 You got movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:12:57.000 I got movies. I had music.

03:12:59.000 Why have I been sold? I can't believe this.

03:13:01.000 I invited you on holiday and you said no.

03:13:03.000 These are the consequences of your actions.

03:13:05.000 You invited me, but you know what? If I would have gone, it's a good thing.

03:13:09.000 Allah's the best of planners. Because if I would have gone and whoever your little fucking friends are would have sold me out, they'd have a bigger hell to pay than any jail. 0.99

03:13:16.000 Of course. Because I'm top G. I'm not having that. 1.00

03:13:19.000 So they're lucky I didn't fucking go. 1.00

03:13:20.000 Whoever those little pussies are, say their names. 1.00

03:13:22.000 Oh, no, I won't. Trust me. 1.00

03:13:23.000 You're a nicer man than me, because I would have them done.

03:13:26.000 So it's a good thing I didn't go. 1.00

03:13:28.000 Because if those little pussies fucking rat... 1.00

03:13:30.000 I don't like rats. I don't like that. 1.00

03:13:32.000 So it's a good thing I didn't go.

03:13:33.000 But I can't believe...

03:13:35.000 I went through the jail experience, and in jail with my brother, him and I, one of the ways we were coping with the madness is we were discussing all the scenarios in which we would rather be in Romanian jail than somewhere else. 0.87

03:13:47.000 So we said, well, this is terrible.

03:13:49.000 The food is bad, it's freezing cold, and there's bed bugs, and we're getting bitten, and this is bad.

03:13:54.000 But at least we're not on a U-boat, which has just been hit with a depth charge.

03:13:59.000 Or at least we're not in a trench getting shelled in World War II. And I think maybe at some point we probably talked about, well, there's probably worse jails than this one.

03:14:09.000 This one's terrible, but there must be worse ones.

03:14:11.000 And now you're sitting here telling me that...

03:14:14.000 The Taliban jail was 1,000 times better than what I went through. 0.97

03:14:19.000 Absolutely. Like I said, it was a lovely heartache.

03:14:22.000 You know, I could have escaped, Andrew.

03:14:24.000 Because it was a normal guest house.

03:14:26.000 You could have escaped, but because of respect to them.

03:14:28.000 Yeah, exactly. And to be honest, I was like, I'm kind of enjoying this.

03:14:31.000 I'm kind of enjoying this. You know what's funny about jail?

03:14:34.000 Obviously, at some point, you always consider escape.

03:14:36.000 Yeah, always. Because you're sitting there like, could I get out of this?

03:14:39.000 Because you have all the time in the world and you're trapped.

03:14:41.000 And you ultimately come to the conclusion that nearly any jail, whether it's American, Romanian, Taliban, Turkish, your name of country, Japanese, anything, the way you can get out is to betray the trust of people who are nice to you.

03:14:52.000 That's the only way out. 1.00

03:14:53.000 The only way out is to have someone who's nice to you and you be a piece of shit and betray them. 1.00

03:14:58.000 And I respect what you say because I'm the same. 1.00

03:15:00.000 I was sitting there going, there's no way I could...

03:15:02.000 Not that I'd ever break out because I'm innocent.

03:15:03.000 But I was sitting there saying, the only way I could get out of here is to betray the people who are nice to me.

03:15:07.000 And as a person, I can't do that.

03:15:08.000 I'm not that guy. I'm not going to hit someone or do something bad to people who are nice to me.

03:15:13.000 And I have too kind of heart to do it.

03:15:16.000 Exactly. And plus, they would get in hot shit too, won't they? 0.99

03:15:19.000 Yeah, I have too kind of heart. 1.00

03:15:20.000 I'll just stay in jail.

03:15:22.000 I'd rather stay in jail than sideswipe the one person who's nice to me.

03:15:25.000 I can't do that. So I understand that.

03:15:28.000 So... Eight months in jail.

03:15:30.000 And during those eight months, you were just chilling, watching movies.

03:15:32.000 You had a bed. Oh, yeah. I had a house.

03:15:34.000 Oh, yeah. I got a nice bed as well.

03:15:36.000 Really cushy. You know, good stuff.

03:15:38.000 At one point, because I was arrested with a thousand dollars, anything you're arrested with, apart from a phone, let's say, you're allowed to have.

03:15:45.000 So, of course, they gave me that thousand dollars.

03:15:46.000 You got to keep your money. Oh, yeah.

03:15:48.000 I didn't keep my shoelaces.

03:15:50.000 Yes. I didn't get nothing.

03:15:51.000 Because three dudes killed themselves.

03:15:53.000 The first week I was in there, three dudes killed themselves.

03:15:55.000 And they ran in our cells and took everything.

03:15:56.000 Shoelaces. I had a little bottle of Tabasco to hide the taste of the food.

03:15:59.000 I wasn't allowed glass anymore.

03:16:01.000 No exercise band.

03:16:02.000 No sheets on my bed. A guy hung himself with sheets.

03:16:04.000 I had nothing. I feel shortchanged.

03:16:07.000 I am furious. I had everything.

03:16:10.000 I love flexing this.

03:16:11.000 It's a good story.

03:16:13.000 I had $1,000.

03:16:14.000 So at one point I renovated the room.

03:16:16.000 You know what? Because it was Afghan style. 0.76

03:16:19.000 And I wanted to stay in like, you know, a Western style hotel.

03:16:22.000 So new carpets, painted for walls, a nice color, new lighting too.

03:16:27.000 I had tons of movies.

03:16:29.000 I downloaded some music.

03:16:30.000 I had my Bible.

03:16:31.000 They were really fine with me doing anything.

03:16:34.000 No problem with the Bible? No, no problem.

03:16:36.000 They said, hey, you're our guest right here in our country.

03:16:38.000 Even if you've created a small issue for yourself, you're Christian.

03:16:42.000 This is no problem. You want to praise your God.

03:16:45.000 Absolutely. That's fine. We respect that because they respect the diversity of people if you come as a guest.

03:16:51.000 And now if you start preaching to them, obviously that might be a problem.

03:16:53.000 But look at those photos right there, Andrew.

03:16:55.000 Look, I was given a ring, a triple emerald ring by one of the commanders because he liked me so much.

03:17:01.000 He said, yeah, take some photos if you want.

03:17:03.000 They encouraged me to write my book.

03:17:05.000 They said, be brutally honest.

03:17:07.000 I did the whole bold look right there.

03:17:09.000 So I look like the American X guy, you know?

03:17:11.000 Yeah. Look, I had a hat.

03:17:13.000 Look, look at that window right there.

03:17:14.000 Wide open. I could jump into the streets.

03:17:16.000 I could run down. I knew exactly where I was.

03:17:18.000 I could be out in that country within two days.

03:17:20.000 But no, I was enjoying my holiday.

03:17:22.000 Who else is in this jail? So I can't say exactly the nationalities, but there was one guy.

03:17:27.000 I'll tell you about this guy. This guy's fucking hilarious. 0.97

03:17:29.000 I'm surprised they treated him so well. 0.98

03:17:32.000 So I won't say the nationality, but you can guess from the, uh, from the accent.

03:17:36.000 So when I was in the holding cell, this guy got brought in.

03:17:39.000 So he's, he's what, like six foot four black dude. 0.99

03:17:41.000 And he goes, fuck man, what am I doing here? 1.00

03:17:44.000 Fuck. You know, he starts freaking out. 1.00

03:17:45.000 Where's he from? I can't say.

03:17:47.000 Can't say, but he's Western.

03:17:48.000 Yeah, yeah. You can imagine.

03:17:49.000 You can imagine. What's the most entitled country in the world in the West?

03:17:52.000 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

03:17:53.000 So I go, oh, hey, mate, what are you doing?

03:17:55.000 You know, what are you in for?

03:17:57.000 He goes, oh, what are you doing? 1.00

03:17:58.000 Fuck why, people. I'm a fucking terrorist. 1.00

03:18:01.000 I'm joining ISIS. I'm joining Daesh. 1.00

03:18:03.000 So I'm like, what the fuck? 0.99

03:18:04.000 This guy starts shouting at people. 1.00

03:18:06.000 The Taliban come in. Like, hey, man, calm down. 0.99

03:18:09.000 And he goes, no, I'm Muslim too.

03:18:10.000 He's like, yeah, that's great, man. But he can't shout at the other detainees.

03:18:13.000 He assaults the Taliban.

03:18:15.000 And they, you know, strain him and take him to the guest house as well, put him in like a little isolated cell.

03:18:21.000 This guy's a full-on schizophrenic.

03:18:23.000 And I speak to him a few times throughout my stay. 1.00

03:18:25.000 He's fucking insane, but it's kind of funny. 1.00

03:18:27.000 He believes he's had a chip implanted in his, at the end of his knob, in the end of his dick, and in his brain by Joe Biden. 1.00

03:18:34.000 I hate when that happens. Yeah, yeah, it happens to the best of us, man. 1.00

03:18:36.000 I removed mine last week, you know.

03:18:38.000 Yeah, yeah. So he believes Joe Biden is speaking to him through satellites.

03:18:43.000 Isn't there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he also believes he is a big leader of ISIS. He also believes he's founded, what was it, Al-Qaeda, and he also founded, what was it, Al-Shabaab, the Somalian terrorist.

03:18:58.000 So he believes he's part of this big network.

03:19:00.000 I find his Facebook at one point when I get out, by the way. 0.99

03:19:03.000 Complete crap show. I think he's either the worst US asset in the world, or he's just completely insane. 1.00

03:19:09.000 Oh, that's me. Yeah, I was... 0.98

03:19:11.000 Wait, wait, let me show this to the people.

03:19:12.000 I didn't have a gym.

03:19:13.000 I wasn't allowed dumbbells because I might kill myself, but obviously here you got to work out.

03:19:17.000 Yeah, man, I got to work out no problem.

03:19:18.000 I had to do a thousand push-ups a day.

03:19:20.000 I wasn't allowed weights. See, they don't let you look after your health in Romanian prison.

03:19:25.000 No? I'm still in the Romanian judicial system, so I'd be very careful what I say.

03:19:28.000 But I was not allowed to wait since we've had that in the gym.

03:19:31.000 There was no exercise. Yeah, I don't like to see that.

03:19:33.000 You know, I think I was in the best health in Taliban prison because there was no processed sugar that I bought.

03:19:39.000 The food was solid.

03:19:40.000 The food was really good. If anyone has ever been to Central Asia or the Middle East, you can attest to the food being amazing.

03:19:46.000 I kind of miss it.

03:19:52.000 There's a schizophrenic. 1.00

03:19:53.000 Is there anyone else in there who's like you been caught up and had some pussy ass friends who sold them out? 1.00

03:19:57.000 Yeah, there was one guy as well. 1.00

03:19:59.000 He was from a neighboring country in Afghanistan.

03:20:01.000 He was actually a spy.

03:20:03.000 So I met quite a few genuine spies there.

03:20:05.000 It wasn't the GDI being paranoid.

03:20:07.000 They had good reason to suspect spies were in the country.

03:20:09.000 Sometimes I'll be walking around the house and a new guy would arrive and he would walk up to me and go, Hey, I'm CIA. I'm like, what the fuck? 0.99

03:20:16.000 And he would go, yeah, yeah, so you're British, right? 1.00

03:20:18.000 So you're with your guys. Hey, what's the plan?

03:20:20.000 Have you heard anything from the outside? 1.00

03:20:21.000 I'm like, hey, I'm not in your fucking world, man. 0.98

03:20:23.000 All right, but yeah, heard from the outside is a good question, though. 0.98

03:20:25.000 How did you contact? Did anyone know you were safe?

03:20:27.000 How did you contact anyone? Did you speak to anyone?

03:20:29.000 Were you allowed a phone call? How did it work?

03:20:31.000 I had monthly phone calls. I could call my MC anytime I wanted.

03:20:34.000 Like, it was in Doha, so I could call them.

03:20:36.000 I was allowed supervised calls to my people, so I could call my friends.

03:20:40.000 How often could you call your friends?

03:20:41.000 As much as I wanted, really.

03:20:43.000 As long as there was a good reason for it.

03:20:44.000 As long as it wasn't just empty chit-chat, you know, sort out my affairs.

03:20:47.000 Usually I would do it once every two weeks.

03:20:49.000 But if I wanted to push it, I could do it once every few days.

03:20:52.000 It was good, man. It was a real good time.

03:20:55.000 And to conclude this story, and I'm going to go on to some general questions about Afghanistan.

03:20:59.000 Yes, mate. So, how do you go home?

03:21:02.000 What happens? The police...

03:21:03.000 Did you know in advance you were going to go home?

03:21:05.000 Did it come out of nowhere? It came out of nowhere.

03:21:07.000 Bro, me, it came out of nowhere. It was 10.30 at night.

03:21:11.000 And I was sitting there staring at the wall.

03:21:13.000 I'd been to court, I think the day before or the day.

03:21:15.000 And every time I've been to court, I've been absolutely wrecked and decimated.

03:21:18.000 And I was just sitting there staring at the wall. 0.99

03:21:20.000 And I still had hope because I'm a fool. 0.98

03:21:23.000 So every time I got declined, it would be a huge mental destruction. 0.93

03:21:27.000 Whereas my brother, he had no hope from the beginning.

03:21:29.000 The second we went to jail, day one, he said, this, Andrew, I love you.

03:21:33.000 I said, I love you too. He goes, this is a Matrix attack.

03:21:35.000 I was like, yeah. He goes, you know how the Matrix works, don't you?

03:21:37.000 I was like, yeah. He goes, we ain't getting out.

03:21:39.000 So I was like, okay.

03:21:42.000 And even after court, when we were waiting for our decision to go home, my brother had so little faith and so little nerves, he'd just go straight to sleep.

03:21:50.000 Didn't even care to take a nap.

03:21:52.000 We'd finish in court and he'd go, and we'd be waiting for the answer because the answer came on a piece of paper through the door.

03:21:57.000 They'd just slide it through saying yes or no.

03:21:59.000 And I'd be sitting there staring at the door and Tristan would be like, Andrew.

03:22:02.000 It's a matrix attack. What are you waiting by the door for?

03:22:05.000 And just take a nap and just sleep.

03:22:07.000 So every time he'd sleep, because for court you had to be up early so you were tired, and like this time he was asleep, and we got the piece of paper saying yes, and I'm like, Tristan!

03:22:14.000 We're going home! We're going home!

03:22:15.000 And he goes, he wakes up, kind of goes, what?

03:22:18.000 No, he wasn't even happy.

03:22:20.000 He just goes, what?

03:22:22.000 Today? I was like, yeah, I think we get to go today!

03:22:24.000 He's like, oh, alright, alright, I'll pack then.

03:22:29.000 My brother's tapped. So, my brother didn't care.

03:22:32.000 But I was a stag.

03:22:34.000 I used all my last mouthwash.

03:22:36.000 My mouthwash was rationed.

03:22:37.000 And I was so bored in jail that mouthwash was like an experience.

03:22:41.000 It was like something to do.

03:22:43.000 A sensation. For the senses, yeah.

03:22:45.000 I'd allow myself one mouthwash a day for like an hour.

03:22:48.000 I'd play with this mouthwash. And I had like half a bottle left.

03:22:50.000 I was like, can you use the mouthwash?

03:22:51.000 I used all the mouthwash.

03:22:53.000 It's just small things, you know?

03:22:54.000 Oh, it was incredible. But yeah, my brother didn't care.

03:22:57.000 So for you, it was the same. It came out of absolute number?

03:22:59.000 They gave me an hour. They said, Miles, you're going somewhere an hour.

03:23:02.000 Did they tell you why they decided to let you go?

03:23:05.000 Like, what did they say? After a while, they said, hey, Miles, we gave you the minimum sentence of six months because we think you're a top guy.

03:23:09.000 We actually like you. I was like, oh, the Taliban like me. 0.98

03:23:12.000 Lovely stuff. And he said, oh, yes, very sorry.

03:23:15.000 Paperwork and bureaucracy, because there's no embassy here for British.

03:23:18.000 It took a little bit longer. And because we wanted you to be released with the other British people who were actually convicted, being spies, by the way, they came with me.

03:23:27.000 So they said, okay, Miles, it's been eight months.

03:23:28.000 Very sorry about this, but you're going home now.

03:23:30.000 And I just said, you know what?

03:23:32.000 To the Taliban, guys, here's some money. 0.85

03:23:34.000 Go and buy some pizzas.

03:23:35.000 Go and buy some food.

03:23:37.000 We're going to have a feast right now.

03:23:39.000 We're going to have a party. We're going to have a good time.

03:23:41.000 We're going to watch a movie. I think we watched Black Hawk Down, which was one of the Taliban favourites. 0.99

03:23:45.000 Had a Pashto version, by the way.

03:23:48.000 It was good stuff. We had like a little celebration.

03:23:50.000 Everyone was cheering. I think I was supplying everyone's nicotine addiction.

03:23:56.000 So was I. Bro in jail, so was I. I use all my commissary on cigarettes, and they would trade cigarettes for home-cooked food.

03:24:01.000 Exactly. That was a currency, wasn't it?

03:24:03.000 The cigarettes. Yeah, exactly. I use all my money on cigarettes.

03:24:05.000 So I basically, I gave the rest of my money to some guys I liked.

03:24:09.000 I said, you know, I'll spend it wisely.

03:24:10.000 I might be back in a little bit.

03:24:12.000 This might not be the end. I might not be released, but we'll see.

03:24:14.000 We'll see. And I went to the Taliban at this point, and one of my friends, one of the commanders, I can't say his name, but he said, Lovely bloke.

03:24:21.000 And I know he's watching this, so thank you, Commander.

03:24:25.000 And he sat down.

03:24:26.000 We had a feast as well. All my favourite foods, which he remembered from our first conversation.

03:24:30.000 Some of the stuff I hadn't mentioned at this point.

03:24:32.000 He said, you know what, Miles?

03:24:34.000 I'm very sorry about this situation, but you're going home now.

03:24:37.000 I pray that you come back.

03:24:38.000 You know, inshallah. Here's some food.

03:24:41.000 Enjoy yourself. Have a good nap.

03:24:43.000 You're going early in the morning.

03:24:45.000 How's it been? You know, any feedback?

03:24:46.000 You know, we always look to improve the situation.

03:24:49.000 We want to create diplomatic ties over the country.

03:24:51.000 And I say, I'm coming back in three weeks, mate.

03:24:54.000 Lovely holiday. And I'm so optimistic about it.

03:24:57.000 I think he thinks I'm lying.

03:24:58.000 He's like, nah, this guy isn't coming back.

03:25:00.000 And I just grab him by the shoulder.

03:25:02.000 I'm like, I am coming back, my friend.

03:25:04.000 I am coming back. I'm doing big business in your country.

03:25:06.000 You're going to help me. We're going to have a good situation.

03:25:08.000 We're going to have a good time. And they drove you to the airport?

03:25:11.000 Yeah, they drove me to the airport. Armored convoy, by the way.

03:25:15.000 Blues in two. Yeah, exactly.

03:25:16.000 So I'm like, this is lovely.

03:25:18.000 And you know what the Taliban do? 0.97

03:25:19.000 They have very strong laser pointers.

03:25:21.000 So they're just shooting the laser pointers at other cars just to get them the other way.

03:25:25.000 It's kind of fun because they're trying to hit the driver.

03:25:28.000 So it's like a game to them. Small things like that.

03:25:30.000 I just love the Taliban. 0.98

03:25:32.000 They're just lads. They're just lads, you know?

03:25:34.000 They're just lads. Yeah, I get that.

03:25:35.000 I get that. Just boys goofing off.

03:25:37.000 Boys goofing off. Boys goofing off.

03:25:39.000 And it's kind of funny, at the fall of Kabul, I remember seeing loads of memes on Twitter when it showed, like, all the Taliban, like, charging at the previously held American fortifications.

03:25:48.000 Imagine you and your boys just picking up AKs and just...

03:25:51.000 They're goofing off. Yeah, exactly.

03:25:53.000 Charging in. Yeah, like a Friday night.

03:25:54.000 Friday night, yeah.

03:25:55.000 Yeah, yeah. So, um...

03:25:57.000 It was a commercial flight or was it a military flight?

03:25:59.000 How did you leave? It was a commercial flight.

03:26:02.000 To where? To Dubai again.

03:26:04.000 So it was the second time I got deported to Dubai, technically.

03:26:07.000 And the other times I've been to Dubai, I had food poisoning.

03:26:09.000 So the Dubai staff know me at this point.

03:26:12.000 They know me by name. And then I had the British Foreign Office.

03:26:15.000 God bless them. They met me there.

03:26:17.000 They said, you know, I hope you're well, Miles.

03:26:19.000 Are you okay? I go, yeah, lovely holiday, lads.

03:26:22.000 Lovely to get away from it all.

03:26:23.000 I'll be back in Kabul in three weeks.

03:26:25.000 They had this horrified face.

03:26:26.000 Like, he's not going to... It's not going to stop.

03:26:29.000 You know, they're sick of me.

03:26:30.000 Are you actually going back to Kabul?

03:26:31.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. Three weeks. I promised the commander first month and I keep my promises.

03:26:35.000 I'm going back. I'm going to do some business.

03:26:37.000 Oh, he invited me to Tora Bora.

03:26:39.000 Do you know Tora Bora? No.

03:26:41.000 Yeah, so do you know where Bin Laden stayed in those caves before he went to Pakistan?

03:26:44.000 I know the caves, yeah. Yeah, that's Tora Bora.

03:26:46.000 So the Taliban said, hey, Miles, we like YouTube videos.

03:26:49.000 Do you want to make one?

03:26:50.000 All right, all right. So I've got a bunch of questions.

03:26:52.000 So I don't want to be egotistical, but let me start with this one.

03:26:54.000 Did the Taliban know who I am?

03:26:55.000 Yeah, yeah. They know who you are.

03:26:58.000 They know who you are. Do you remember that book you signed for me?

03:27:00.000 One of my books? Yeah, the Top G here.

03:27:02.000 He kindly signed it for me.

03:27:04.000 I brought it with me to Afghanistan.

03:27:05.000 They opened it up whilst interviewing me.

03:27:07.000 And he said, who is this?

03:27:09.000 I say, oh, that's Andrew Tate.

03:27:11.000 They say, the Top G? And I go, yeah, the Top G. You know the Top G? And they were like, Yes, my friend.

03:27:17.000 You got this book signed by?

03:27:18.000 I'm like, mate, he's my acquaintance.

03:27:20.000 I met him a few times. Lovely chap.

03:27:22.000 You know the top G? And I was like, absolutely, man.

03:27:24.000 Check my WhatsApp right here. He's right here.

03:27:27.000 And they were like, whoa, can you tell him I said hi?

03:27:31.000 So Iqbal says hi, mate.

03:27:33.000 Iqbal says hi. Hey, G. So if I come to Afghanistan...

03:27:37.000 I'll be fine. I think you'll be fine, man.

03:27:39.000 You haven't got bad intentions?

03:27:40.000 None. Why would I have bad intentions?

03:27:42.000 Exactly. He's a pure guy. If you come to Afghanistan, they will treat you like a prince. 0.73

03:27:45.000 I guarantee it. Way better than Romania. 1.00

03:27:48.000 I know you can't say anything about that, but I can. 1.00

03:27:50.000 Fuck Romania. Fuck the government. 1.00

03:27:53.000 The Taliban government will absolutely look after you. 1.00

03:27:55.000 I think at one point, if you want to buy a house there, you have no problems.

03:27:59.000 I think the tax rate's a lot more favorable.

03:28:01.000 The tax rate's probably pretty low.

03:28:03.000 Yeah, it's pretty decent, man. So I'm safe to go to Afghanistan. 1.00

03:28:05.000 If I want to do a visit in the future, I can come see you, stay at your house?

03:28:07.000 Yeah, absolutely, man. They go look after you.

03:28:09.000 They'll treat you like guests. They'll treat you out for a lovely meal.

03:28:12.000 Take some photos. They'll give you a tour.

03:28:14.000 They always encourage tourism and business in Afghanistan.

03:28:18.000 The only issue is the Western media.

03:28:19.000 The whole matrix is attacking the system.

03:28:21.000 The matrix attacks them. I understand that. I've been through that.

03:28:24.000 I understand, Taliban. The matrix attacks and they lie. 0.98

03:28:26.000 They lie about me in the paper all day long.

03:28:28.000 You look at the news and it says, oh, Afghanistan's the hardest place to do business.

03:28:31.000 I went there. It was incredibly simple.

03:28:33.000 The permits, I went there.

03:28:34.000 I spoke to some people and they said, yeah, here you go, man.

03:28:37.000 Same day stuff. It was very, very straightforward.

03:28:40.000 Okay. So now that you've faced these life and death situations, how do you view the everyday challenges that most people in the West complain about?

03:28:46.000 Like, what do you think the average... 1.00

03:28:48.000 Oh, they're bitches. Absolutely. 1.00

03:28:49.000 What do you think the average person, the average Westerner...

03:28:51.000 I mean, you saw all your friends roll on you, which just genuinely upset me.

03:28:55.000 But how do you think the average Westerner would handle your situation, the average person?

03:28:58.000 Oh, they would be crying and shaking. 0.94

03:29:00.000 You know, they would be telling the Afghans, oh, I don't belong here, F off. 0.84

03:29:05.000 You know, they would be disrespectful.

03:29:06.000 They wouldn't understand how to play the situation into their favor.

03:29:10.000 With me, I thought, this is great.

03:29:11.000 I get to make some friends. I get to network.

03:29:14.000 I'm still set on the business, so this is like...

03:29:16.000 Great time. I think most of them, which my friends, when they were staying with me, they were crying on my shoulder.

03:29:22.000 And I was like, there, there, mate.

03:29:24.000 Don't worry about your girlfriend. You must have been concerned at some point.

03:29:27.000 No. Didn't cross your mind.

03:29:30.000 No, absolutely not.

03:29:31.000 No, I was like, they're my friends.

03:29:33.000 No problem. I was like, I'm going to have a good time here.

03:29:36.000 What was the most surprising thing you learned about yourself during the ordeal?

03:29:39.000 Oh, I'm too addicted to the internet, man.

03:29:41.000 I remember when I had my phone and my laptop taken away from me.

03:29:44.000 So the first three weeks, I didn't have my laptop or any electronics.

03:29:47.000 So every few seconds, I would reach and I'd go, where's my phone?

03:29:50.000 I did that. I did that for weeks.

03:29:52.000 For weeks, I was like, I don't have a phone.

03:29:55.000 Yeah, I just didn't know what to do.

03:29:56.000 And time went so slowly like that, didn't it?

03:29:58.000 But you got your phone back after three weeks?

03:30:00.000 No, no. So it was my laptop. So I phoned an issue.

03:30:02.000 You got a laptop? Yeah, yeah. My laptop.

03:30:03.000 Yeah. So I made a deal with him.

03:30:05.000 I said, hey, I'll tell you where my laptop is in Kabul.

03:30:07.000 It's with my friend. But if you find nothing on my laptop, can I have my laptop?

03:30:10.000 And he said, hey, we don't need to make this deal.

03:30:12.000 Honestly, you allowed your stuff.

03:30:14.000 As long as it's not a phone, you can use your stuff for entertainment.

03:30:16.000 If you have your money, you can have it.

03:30:18.000 If you have books, you can have it.

03:30:19.000 If you want some comforts, no problem, within reason.

03:30:24.000 We'll look after you. We've looked after all the other people, and I saw it.

03:30:26.000 They did some good work. I had my laptop, and I thought, this is amazing.

03:30:30.000 And he said, you know what, Miles? We won't tell you what to write.

03:30:34.000 We're not going to ever check your laptop, which you didn't, by the way, which is great.

03:30:37.000 But just write your second book, watch some movies.

03:30:41.000 Here's a copy of the Krunt if you want.

03:30:42.000 But we understand you're a firm Catholic.

03:30:44.000 That's no problem with us.

03:30:45.000 But, you know, we always encourage people to look at our religion.

03:30:49.000 Just honestly, if you need something for it, we can get it for you from the markets.

03:30:52.000 I go, well, thank you very much, which is a test called manana.

03:30:56.000 It means thank you very much in Pashto.

03:30:59.000 And one word I would always say was, which means no problem.

03:31:03.000 When the house commander would come and check everyone else out and check their needs, if they need, hey, do you need more toothpaste?

03:31:09.000 Do you need new soap? People would always bitch and moan to this guy. 1.00

03:31:13.000 They would grab him and go, oh, I really need this. 0.98

03:31:16.000 I really need to go. I'm innocent, man.

03:31:17.000 But clearly I knew they weren't.

03:31:19.000 They were lying through their teeth.

03:31:20.000 The house commander would come to me and go, what do you need, man?

03:31:23.000 I go, No, nothing.

03:31:25.000 Mushkinishtha. You know, come back next week, man. 0.98

03:31:27.000 I'm good. And he would always laugh because I was the only one saying, hey, I'm having a good situation.

03:31:31.000 And everyone else had the same conditions as me, too.

03:31:34.000 Do you think your mental resilience comes from a place...

03:31:37.000 And please don't be insulted.

03:31:38.000 I'm asking for the sake of the audience.

03:31:40.000 Do you think your mental resilience comes from a place of...

03:31:43.000 Constructive... Do you think you've built a certain mindset?

03:31:46.000 Do you think it's a realistic mindset you have?

03:31:48.000 Or do you think you're just blessed from God?

03:31:49.000 I'm delusional. I'm delusional optimistic and narcissistic to that point.

03:31:53.000 Absolutely. You must be delusionally optimistic.

03:31:56.000 Obviously, but here's the thing too.

03:31:57.000 You know this too. Sometimes if you play a part and really push it and just act with sheer confidence, it works out in the end.

03:32:03.000 That is true, but that's an extreme situation to play that part.

03:32:08.000 I don't think it was extreme for me.

03:32:09.000 Popping down to Afghanistan is like popping down to Tesco's or Walmart's. 0.97

03:32:12.000 For me, it's nothing.

03:32:13.000 It's nothing. Everyone, when they hear the word Afghanistan, they hear that scary music and they go, oh, I'll shiver my timbers, Afghanistan.

03:32:20.000 That's like, you step off the flight, your head explodes.

03:32:24.000 I'm trying to learn. It's fine.

03:32:26.000 Because there's very few people who have a story which, like I said, can impress me.

03:32:29.000 And that's one of the things I actually, and I think I made a video about this a few years ago.

03:32:33.000 It's kind of interesting with a life like mine.

03:32:35.000 I don't want to come across narcissistic or arrogant, but I've come from the absolute bottom echelon of society.

03:32:39.000 Now I'm at the highest echelon of society.

03:32:42.000 Because you earned it. Because I earned it.

03:32:43.000 The highest echelon of masculine performance.

03:32:45.000 And I have hundreds of millions of dollars and I'm famous and blah, blah, blah.

03:32:47.000 And I was a professional fighter and I made out the ghetto. 0.63

03:32:49.000 I did all these things and everyone recognizes me now, et cetera, et cetera.

03:32:53.000 So when I meet normal people, I have to kind of dumb my stories down.

03:32:57.000 Last time this happened, I think it was Christmas, a few years ago, a guy who I went to school with, who I hadn't seen in maybe 16 years.

03:33:05.000 16 years. A long time.

03:33:06.000 And he's like, oh, Tate, you're in England. Let's meet up.

03:33:07.000 I was like, yeah, cool. We met up. And he's sitting there and he's telling me about his life.

03:33:10.000 And I want to be very polite to the man.

03:33:12.000 I don't want to insult the man. Yeah.

03:33:13.000 I know him, right? But I'm sitting there going, so what have you been up to?

03:33:15.000 He's like, oh, yeah, I got this job and I work in the city.

03:33:18.000 And he's telling me the crazy time he went to Spain once and this crazy party and they spent $2,000.

03:33:24.000 $2,000. Wow. And I'm just sitting there like, yeah, bro.

03:33:27.000 Cool. And I can't tell anything about my life.

03:33:30.000 Like, he's bragging about how he might be able to afford a BMW on finals next year.

03:33:34.000 I can't sit there and say, I haven't got you a week, G. I can't.

03:33:37.000 I don't insult him. So I have to very much say almost nothing.

03:33:39.000 But you have stories which rival mine, perhaps surpass.

03:33:42.000 So I'm trying to learn. So what mindset tips?

03:33:45.000 Like, there must have been something. I learned a bunch in jail.

03:33:47.000 Yes. Your jail sounds in a way easier than mine, but surely, surely there must have been the consequence.

03:33:53.000 I know the Romanians probably won't chop my head off.

03:33:56.000 Of course. So you must have had some concerns at some point.

03:34:00.000 There must be some mindset tips, or is it just pure delusional optimism?

03:34:05.000 Delusional optimism, 100%.

03:34:06.000 I'm just my brain, somewhere else, man.

03:34:09.000 You know what happens? Well, when they came in and interviewed me every single time, when they came in, I said, oh, welcome to my office, please take a seat.

03:34:15.000 They would chuckle with us because it's just this grand confidence.

03:34:19.000 And in the end, from that, they learned, hey, you do business?

03:34:21.000 I go, yeah, yeah. And I started pitching to the Taliban my business as I'm being interviewed. 0.69

03:34:26.000 You see what I mean? And they like it and they pass it on.

03:34:29.000 They go, you know, this guy's onto something.

03:34:31.000 He can make something out of this situation in our country.

03:34:35.000 He seems alright. I mean, it got to the point where this guy's making a lot of sense.

03:34:38.000 We want to invite him back.

03:34:40.000 So I could have been in a situation where I just sit in the corner, chattering at my nails, crying a little bit, shouting at them, disrespecting them like a lot of people did. 1.00

03:34:48.000 Which, yeah, it's stupid. 0.99

03:34:49.000 You need to keep a level head with these things. 1.00

03:34:51.000 I agree with that. And you need to be optimistic.

03:34:53.000 I agree with that also. But as a hyper-professional, you need to consider all scenarios and you need to have a plan for all scenarios.

03:34:59.000 You need to try and Plot the future.

03:35:01.000 And you must have considered, I'm never going to make it out of here.

03:35:03.000 They might kill me. Truly none of that crossed your mind.

03:35:06.000 No, no. I have friends in England where if something goes wrong, something will be sorted out for me.

03:35:11.000 I have a lot of strong contacts.

03:35:13.000 The whole thing is with my travels, it's a very goofy front, but you must understand, I briefly worked in investment banking, which is a very hard field to get into.

03:35:21.000 You have to be somewhat competent.

03:35:22.000 I agree, but I don't think investment bankers can save you from the Taliban. 1.00

03:35:25.000 Of course not, no, but I had things in place.

03:35:27.000 I am very, very, very, very, how do you put it?

03:35:32.000 I would say I always want to plan.

03:35:36.000 I have five different plans if something goes wrong.

03:35:39.000 Contingencies. Yeah, I had five different contingency plans.

03:35:41.000 So when I didn't stop an email sending out for a few days, my contingency plan, the PDF, got sent automatically to a few friends saying, this is how you sort out my affairs, this is how you log into my social media, this is what you say, this type of stuff.

03:35:56.000 You do know I was trying to get you out, don't you?

03:35:58.000 Oh, you were? Oh, you're my top chief man.

03:36:00.000 Thank you. And I'll show you.

03:36:02.000 I was messaging every large Twitter account that was associated with the Afghanistani government saying, what's happened to this guy?

03:36:08.000 I know him personally.

03:36:09.000 I can vouch for him personally.

03:36:11.000 What will it cost to get him out?

03:36:13.000 You do know I was trying to get you free, right?

03:36:15.000 Oh, thank you, man. But to be honest, I kind of am glad I stayed that long because I think it was a perfect amount of time.

03:36:21.000 I really got a good story out of it.

03:36:23.000 Otherwise, the book would just be a bit boring, if that makes sense.

03:36:26.000 The story would just be like, oh, I went in, took an L, got nothing out of it, and then lost some time.

03:36:31.000 No, the story was, now, I went in...

03:36:34.000 I made a bad situation great, and I came out with a viable business, an amazing story, and a lot of friends.

03:36:41.000 Because I like to extrapolate lessons from everything, because that's how I work.

03:36:44.000 Let's extrapolate a lesson from this.

03:36:46.000 And the lesson we're going to extrapolate is the fact that these people who you were supposed to do business with and make money with went there, sold you out, and put you in an unfavorable position.

03:36:52.000 And me, someone who you had met for one hour once in your life ever, was trying to save you.

03:36:57.000 Which shows you need to know important people, and you need to have high-value people around you, which makes it extremely important.

03:37:02.000 I say to people all the time, I know guys and they say, oh, he's my friend. 0.99

03:37:05.000 And I say, well, he's a loser. Oh, but he's funny. 0.97

03:37:07.000 But he's useless. Why are you talking to this person? 0.97

03:37:10.000 The best, at his most competent, he can hurt you.

03:37:14.000 He can't help you ever.

03:37:15.000 Why are you talking to him? 0.97

03:37:17.000 None of my friends are useless. None. 0.95

03:37:18.000 And I was sitting there actively trying to get you out.

03:37:21.000 And your friends who sold you out were just what? 1.00

03:37:23.000 Living in England, not giving a shit? 0.98

03:37:24.000 Oh no, yeah, they were having some calls with me occasionally, but he won't do anything. 0.99

03:37:28.000 And here's the thing too, they had a lot of opportunities, but they did nothing. 1.00

03:37:33.000 Sounds like white boy shit. Yeah, white boy stuff. 1.00

03:37:35.000 They had no balls, if that makes sense. 0.99

03:37:37.000 We don't work that way. 1.00

03:37:39.000 Unbelievable. So I've got a few more questions for you I have to ask.

03:37:41.000 ask who's tweeting on your account?

03:37:42.000 It was a friend of mine.

03:37:43.000 I can't say who, but a very close friend.

03:37:45.000 And what about your views on family and God and tradition?

03:37:49.000 Like surely they were, were they, did they have any strong traditions or is there anything about them you, you witnessed that you admired or did anything evolve with your time there?

03:37:56.000 Did you see how their society functions?

03:37:58.000 Because I know absolutely nothing until my visits.

03:38:01.000 I'm going to come see the Taliban one day, but I'm assuming. 0.99

03:38:04.000 And of course, like I said, I'm a professional and as a professional, I just know life generally, I don't have any studies to back this up, but I'm assuming with a less powerful government, although people are afraid of it, of course, people respect it as you've just described, I guess.

03:38:18.000 Family is a huge part of remain retaining social cohesion, right?

03:38:22.000 Yes, they've got a lot of autonomy in their area and the social unit is very important to them, Andrew.

03:38:28.000 The thing is they have very big families that carry on for generations and they always live underneath one roof, looking after one another, having each other's back and there's that strong societal trust that you just don't get in the West, which I really do respect.

03:38:41.000 And that's why we found common ground too.

03:38:43.000 They asked me, why was it in Inglestand?

03:38:46.000 Why do we not have a- In Inglestand?

03:38:48.000 In Inglestand. In Inglestand. In Inglestand. In Inglestand. In Inglestand. That's why we call it in Pashto.

03:38:50.000 In Inglestand, I believe. They would say, you know, why do you have one child, two child?

03:38:55.000 This is crazy for us.

03:38:57.000 You know, most people have seven children.

03:38:58.000 I was like, I agree with that.

03:38:59.000 Yeah, I was like, I want seven or eight children and I want them to explore the stars in the future generations.

03:39:05.000 Yeah, having one or two kids is a disgrace to your brother.

03:39:08.000 Of course, yeah. You've got to at least have seven kids.

03:39:09.000 So I agree with him on that. Me and the Taller Bros have a lot in common.

03:39:11.000 Exactly. I would love to see a podcast between you two.

03:39:14.000 I would absolutely love that. Oh yeah.

03:39:15.000 So you don't have a single experience or a single day where you were afraid?

03:39:20.000 No, sometimes I was a little sad, to be honest.

03:39:22.000 Yeah, you know what?

03:39:23.000 It was a punishment. I did make a small mistake and I apologize to that.

03:39:27.000 I felt sad, but they always picked me up.

03:39:30.000 They said, Miles, you okay, man?

03:39:32.000 I was like, no, no, Miles.

03:39:35.000 Do you want a movie? Do you want some ice cream?

03:39:37.000 You'll be good, man. And the same with the other people too.

03:39:39.000 The only problem is they really abused this.

03:39:41.000 They were like, yeah, give me 10 cigars.

03:39:43.000 Give me ice cream.

03:39:44.000 Give me a pizza.

03:39:46.000 And the guys were like, yeah, you're sad every day now.

03:39:48.000 And what do the Taliban think of the West?

03:39:51.000 What do they think of us?

03:39:52.000 Do they comment on us and our society or something?

03:39:55.000 What do they think of us? They like the everyday person, but not the soldiers, not the government.

03:39:59.000 You know what I mean? They don't hate the American people.

03:40:01.000 They just hate the American government.

03:40:03.000 They don't like Joe Biden. They like Trump a little bit too.

03:40:06.000 They like Trump? A little bit, yeah, because he ended the war in Afghanistan and spoke out about it too.

03:40:11.000 They have mixed feelings about him.

03:40:13.000 There's always some different things.

03:40:14.000 They're trying to figure out the geopolitical situation themselves.

03:40:17.000 They're trying to build relations right now because before they've just kept themselves isolated.

03:40:22.000 So they have no real problem with the general...

03:40:24.000 No, you're allowed to come to Afghanistan as a guest as long as you do nothing dodgy.

03:40:28.000 They'll have no problems with you.

03:40:30.000 They treat you as a guest. Tourism is fully enforced.

03:40:32.000 If you want to create business there, they're more than happy for it as long as it's done properly.

03:40:36.000 Okay, so they have no negative views of the West. 0.98

03:40:38.000 Did they say anything about our politics or about the gender crap or any of that garbage? 1.00

03:40:42.000 Yeah, they're like, why do women dress like whores, man? 1.00

03:40:45.000 I was like, yeah, I kind of relate. 0.98

03:40:47.000 I was like, one struggle, brother.

03:40:48.000 I'm Catholic. I don't like this whole thing where people wear green.

03:40:51.000 I can't sit here and agree with the Taliban on that. 0.80

03:40:53.000 Yeah, you absolutely can, but The Matrix, they just want you to say, oh no, they're mistreating everyone.

03:41:01.000 No, they're not. Things are pretty well there.

03:41:03.000 If you speak to the average Afghan, they say things are good.

03:41:05.000 You can't find one article out there where one Afghan says a good thing because, of course, the Western media do not I've spoken to Afghans who are living in London, so they have no pressures to say good things.

03:41:17.000 They pulled me aside and said, you know what, Miles?

03:41:19.000 We're kind of like the Taliban.

03:41:21.000 It's a lot safer. And I go, I kind of can relate.

03:41:24.000 You know what? They're still figuring things out.

03:41:25.000 Of course, they're not up to our Western ideological standards.

03:41:29.000 But 20 years ago, they were smashing TVs, you know, saying TVs are evil, but now they're all on TikTok.

03:41:34.000 So they're currently coming...

03:41:35.000 Is that how they know me, TikTok? I think so.

03:41:37.000 Yeah. Yeah. I think they come across you a few times.

03:41:39.000 They've seen our videos too, that we did together.

03:41:42.000 Yeah. You know what? Obviously they're not up to our Western standards and they're never going to be because it's a whole different ideology, but they're going more and more towards us.

03:41:52.000 They're relating. There's more common ground.

03:41:55.000 You know what I think? I think we give them some support.

03:41:57.000 I think we give them some direction.

03:41:59.000 We help them out with their economy like we should have done.

03:42:01.000 And they could become a really great country.

03:42:03.000 Do you believe the Taliban are now currently in talks with, let's say, the British and American government in a civil, open discourse?

03:42:11.000 No, no. It's very limited.

03:42:13.000 Very, very limited. I do know there was meant to be a meeting between MI6 and the Afghanistan government.

03:42:20.000 Yeah, yes. But Pakistan ISI, that's the Pakistani intelligence, called the British up and said, hey, bad security situation, which is mostly a lie.

03:42:28.000 The Taliban have the security up.

03:42:31.000 100%. If you go to Afghanistan, you feel very safe because there's soldiers everywhere patrolling the place, keeping, you know, the everyday citizens safe.

03:42:39.000 And then the meeting got cancelled.

03:42:41.000 So the Afghans are trying to reach out, create diplomatic relations.

03:42:44.000 But, you know, there's other forces kind of trying to push against them and they're trying to push forward.

03:42:49.000 You know how it is with a new country.

03:42:51.000 They have to make a name for themselves.

03:42:52.000 They have to be useful.

03:42:54.000 Last few questions for you.

03:42:55.000 Did you see homeless people, hungry people?

03:42:57.000 Were people struggling there? People must be struggling.

03:42:59.000 I have to admit, people are struggling.

03:43:01.000 The situation is not good, but you know what I see the Taliban doing? 1.00

03:43:05.000 Every single day, the Taliban go out with any extra food they have and they give it to people.

03:43:11.000 If you see someone hungry, there will always be someone that comes around a few minutes later and gives them food and gives them shelter and gives them something.

03:43:17.000 And that's a perfect way for me to go into what I do with Tate Pledge because we try our best to feed people and I think that's one of the most basic Things you can do.

03:43:25.000 It's very tangible. When you give somebody who is hungry a meal, it's very tangible and easy to feel.

03:43:30.000 A lot of these NGOs and charities, they want to turn up and put up banners and talk garbage.

03:43:33.000 But that doesn't help anybody. When someone is hungry, they need food.

03:43:36.000 So I'm going to quickly show a tape pledge video, then we're going to have a little Q&A. And, uh, bro, I'm glad you're out.

03:43:42.000 Let's put it that way. And I'm a little bit jealous of your jail.

03:43:44.000 I genuinely believe there's no better karmic bonus to life than feeding starving kids.

03:43:49.000 Kids who can't eat, get a meal with your neighbor.

03:44:06.000 It's such an honor to be able to be of service to them.

03:44:08.000 The Prophet Muhammad taught that the most beloved deed to Allah is to fill the stomach of the hungry, to help those that are facing times of difficulty.

03:44:16.000 And we're here in a very remote village that is very impoverished and filled with orphans and needy women.

03:44:21.000 Alhamdulillah, providing maybe one of the only hot meals they get throughout the year.

03:44:25.000 And this was made possible thanks to the generous donation of Andrew and Tristan Tate with the War Room.

03:44:29.000 So may Allah reward you guys and bless you guys for your generous support today.

03:44:32.000 It's such an honor to be able to bring smiles to all these beautiful faces.

03:44:35.000 Jazakumullahu khairan.

03:44:36.000 Wa-alaikumussalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.

03:44:37.000 So we have a whole bunch of other stuff we could show.

03:44:57.000 We have pictures, we have videos, we have incredible stuff.

03:44:58.000 But you know what? Here's your Twitter account.

03:45:00.000 I'm going to show everyone. And if they can't read it there, what is it?

03:45:02.000 It is... It's at Real Lord Miles.

03:45:04.000 If you just search Lord Miles, I will definitely be at the top.

03:45:07.000 I recommend everybody follow this guy on Twitter because it sounds like you have some stories and you're going to be going back there.

03:45:12.000 And you've also shown me some other stuff you've done, which you keep telling me is fine to show, but I refuse to show because I'm telling you the Matrix is going to wreck you, my friend.

03:45:20.000 So we're not going to show it. It's up to you if you want to say it on Twitter.

03:45:22.000 But you're an extremely brave man.

03:45:24.000 And I have to commend your mental state.

03:45:27.000 Perhaps you call it delusional optimism, but it worked.

03:45:29.000 And I believe in the ends justify the means.

03:45:32.000 And if it paid off, then all's well that ends well.

03:45:34.000 I'm very glad you're here.

03:45:35.000 And what do you have coming up next?

03:45:37.000 What are your future adventures for everyone to follow you on Twitter?

03:45:39.000 Everywhere. Everywhere. If you think of a dangerous place in the world, I want to go there.

03:45:44.000 North Central Island, that's my endgame.

03:45:46.000 It's the most dangerous island of the world, with the second dangerous being England, of course.

03:45:50.000 But North Central Island, completely inhabited by natives that are hostile to the outside world. 1.00

03:45:56.000 No one has ever- They're actually going to go there?

03:45:58.000 Yeah, yeah, 100%. I've been researching this for two years.

03:46:00.000 Some people went there in the 80s, they got killed.

03:46:02.000 Yeah, yeah, but they're not me.

03:46:03.000 They're not me, man. You're just going to smile your way through it.

03:46:05.000 No, no, I have a grand plan, but I can't reveal it.

03:46:07.000 I can't reveal it. Darien Gap 2, so that's 50 miles of narco kind of territory between Colombia and Panama, one of the most dangerous jungles of the world.

03:46:17.000 20% of people who enter do not come out alive.

03:46:19.000 There's literally skulls on spikes around there.

03:46:22.000 I went to Snake Island 2, actually the second most dangerous island of the world.

03:46:26.000 Per West... Per one square foot, there's one snake.

03:46:29.000 If you get bitten by it, your organs liquefy.

03:46:32.000 Your heart stops. Yeah, I went there.

03:46:33.000 First ever tourist to survive.

03:46:35.000 I wore a suit of medieval armor, so snakes can't buy through armor.

03:46:38.000 So I walked around like a little can, you know, just snakes can't get through this.

03:46:43.000 I've been to the front lines of Ukraine a few times.

03:46:45.000 I got bored around Christmas time, so I popped down there.

03:46:47.000 Every single war zone in the last two years, I have been to.

03:46:51.000 Also, when Iran had issues with Afghanistan, I heard about the news through my Tali bros, my good friends, and I begged the Taliban commander.

03:47:00.000 I said, please, man, let me go there under a supervised visit.

03:47:02.000 I will film for you, but of course, I was in custody.

03:47:05.000 He said no, respectfully.

03:47:06.000 Okay. I don't want to be morbid, but if something does happen to you, is there anything you want me to do?

03:47:11.000 You know what? Have a drink on me, man.

03:47:13.000 Are you sure nothing's going to happen to you?

03:47:15.000 No, I'm not sure. But that's the adventure of it, isn't it?

03:47:18.000 I mean, if I was sure nothing was going to happen, it's going to be very boring, you know?

03:47:21.000 But it's within my risk tolerance.

03:47:24.000 And it's paid off. I've got every single news article out there laughing at me saying, oh, you know, he's stupid. 1.00

03:47:29.000 He's got himself in custody. No, no, I'm getting paid more than free investment bankers combined. 1.00

03:47:35.000 I have my own business.

03:47:36.000 I have tons of friends. I'm meeting Lovely lads like yourself right here and other people.

03:47:41.000 Every single week, I'm enjoying this life.

03:47:44.000 I will do this until I die.

03:47:46.000 And to be honest, because God has a great sense of humour, I think I'm going to one day die at the age of 110 by slipping on a banana peel.

03:47:54.000 I just see it happening, you know?

03:47:56.000 Well, it's certainly the British spirit because the British conquered the entire world by doing extremely dangerous things and going to very dangerous places. 0.84

03:48:03.000 That's what made Britain the empire it was.

03:48:05.000 You are certainly perhaps a throwback to the age-old British Mentality of, who cares?

03:48:11.000 It might be dangerous. It'll be fine, old chap.

03:48:14.000 Bring the tobacco and let's go.

03:48:16.000 Absolutely. I'm one of those pit pats.

03:48:17.000 Yeah, you're as English as it gets.

03:48:19.000 Yeah, nowadays. And I respect bravery in a man, so I have to give you respect.

03:48:24.000 Oh, thank you, man. I respect you because some of these adventures, I mean, the Taliban maybe, the snakes... 0.99

03:48:31.000 Bro, I don't see any fun about hanging on snakes.

03:48:33.000 Yeah, you can't talk your way out of snakes.

03:48:35.000 Not easily. To be honest, what happened was as well, just a quick story here.

03:48:39.000 I got radio from my friend who's waiting on the boat because it's, you know, far off land.

03:48:43.000 Turns out the Brazilian Navy, the Coast Guard, noticed the boat and they set a course for our direction.

03:48:49.000 And of course, in about 20 minutes, they would be here.

03:48:52.000 I would get what? 10 years in prison, 80k fined in a Brazilian jail.

03:48:56.000 Hell no. And of course, because I was wearing, what, 45 kilograms of clunky armor of a large...

03:49:01.000 Do you have pictures of this? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:49:03.000 Tweet one. I will do.

03:49:05.000 Everyone, tune into his Twitter.

03:49:06.000 We have to see this. Good stuff, man.

03:49:08.000 Lord Miles on Twitter.

03:49:09.000 I stripped the armor at the peak of the island and I ran down because it's the only way I can get back down in time.

03:49:16.000 And I just didn't get bit...

03:49:18.000 I basically YOLO'd my life, and somehow, through delusional optimism, I refused to die despite my best efforts.

03:49:26.000 You sound a lot like me.

03:49:27.000 I say the same things. 0.98

03:49:29.000 No, you don't sound retarded, mate. 0.98

03:49:31.000 I have to give you credit, honestly.

03:49:32.000 Thank you for coming on the show, friends. Thank you for having me, man.

03:49:34.000 And also, final thing too, I've got an auction on my Twitter right here for these authentic Talibro shoes.

03:49:41.000 These are made by the Taliban. 1.00

03:49:43.000 They make the shoes? Oh yeah, they make the shoes. 0.82

03:49:45.000 They wear them. If you go to Afghanistan, they wear the high tops here.

03:49:49.000 I had these for eight months in Taliban custody.

03:49:51.000 And I got them signed by some GDI staff.

03:49:54.000 Look at this stuff here. Lovely.

03:49:56.000 And I don't see anyone else having signature shoes.

03:49:59.000 These are a piece of history and I'm auctioning it off on my Twitter.

03:50:03.000 So if you want to bid on them, have a little piece of my life.

03:50:07.000 Have fun bidding. Yeah, and heaven forbid, heaven forbid, I'll pray for you every day, but if anything does happen to you, that's going to be worth a lot of money.

03:50:14.000 You know, when I was in Taliban prison, you were still in prison for a short period of time.

03:50:17.000 I was praying for you, man. Because I wasn't worried about myself.

03:50:20.000 I was worried about you. Bro, it's crazy.

03:50:22.000 That's pretty funny. And then I got out and I'm trying to break you out.

03:50:25.000 Bro, crazy. When I escape this matrix attack, we're going to deal with your little friends.

03:50:28.000 Yeah, good man. That's right. Thank you.

Tate Speech - October 12, 2023

Emergency Meeting Episode 22 - The Grand Adventure

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