Tate Speech - Interview: Andrew Tate & Mike Cernovich

00:00:00.000 All right, here we are, mindset squared, Mike.

00:00:07.000 Good to have you back.

00:00:08.000 Welcome back.

00:00:09.000 We've got a couple of great guests today, the Tate brothers, as they're known or as they're called.

00:00:14.000 Yeah, so why don't we start with Tristan.

00:00:18.000 Introduce yourself.

00:00:20.000 Tristan Tate.

00:00:21.000 I'm the brother of Andrew Tate, of course.

00:00:23.000 Professional kickboxer.

00:00:24.000 I work, I guess, in the adult entertainment industry in Bucharest, Romania.

00:00:29.000 I've been a friend of Mike and Mike here for the last year or so.

00:00:34.000 Mike's first international trip, Mike Bolin's first international trip, was out to see me in Bucharest very recently.

00:00:39.000 I hope you had a good time, Mike.

00:00:40.000 Secret trip, too.

00:00:41.000 I showed up and surprised Cernovich.

00:00:43.000 He didn't know I was coming.

00:00:44.000 Absolutely, and you worked with me on that.

00:00:45.000 Yeah, and Andrew, or otherwise known online as Cobra Tate.

00:00:50.000 Is that what I'm known as?

00:00:51.000 I thought I was known as something far worse than that.

00:00:55.000 The worst man on the internet, or something.

00:00:57.000 Well, Cobra Tate has all the girls. 1.00

00:00:59.000 Remember that article?

00:01:00.000 They thought they were making fun of you, and it was... I was like, this is great!

00:01:04.000 It was written in that very snarky kind of Mediabro style, which is, this guy has all the girls.

00:01:10.000 There are no girls left for anyone thinking he's making fun of you.

00:01:12.000 I was just retweeting every five seconds.

00:01:14.000 I was like, finally, the recognition I deserve. 0.92

00:01:16.000 It was bizarre for your great Star Wars troll. 0.91

00:01:19.000 Oh, yeah. 0.93

00:01:20.000 So, okay.

00:01:21.000 So, Andrew, or Cobra, tell us a little bit about yourself for those folks that don't know.

00:01:28.000 Yeah, four-time kickboxing world champion, recently retired, trying to find some excitement in life that can replicate world-level combat.

00:01:36.000 So, driving supercars.

00:01:37.000 We found some excitement in Transylvania, didn't we?

00:01:40.000 I think we did, yeah.

00:01:42.000 You know, it's a kind of cool place to live.

00:01:44.000 I always say to all the young people who message me, they're like, why do you live in Romania?

00:01:48.000 And I say, look, if you're a young guy and you don't have any attachments yet, why do you live in America?

00:01:53.000 That's my answer pretty much.

00:01:54.000 Yeah, you're nicer than I am.

00:01:55.000 I hate questions like those.

00:01:56.000 I just don't have the patience for them. 0.95

00:01:58.000 It's like, why are you losers just living a conventional life that, like, the default?

00:02:02.000 You know, it's just, I'm glad you guys have the patience for that, because maybe at one time I did, I just don't. 0.89

00:02:09.000 Right?

00:02:09.000 Like, you're just living a script that somebody else wrote for you.

00:02:12.000 Yeah.

00:02:12.000 And like, well, why would you live in Romania?

00:02:14.000 Like, what the fuck do you know about Romania? 0.99

00:02:15.000 You know nothing. 0.99

00:02:16.000 You don't know nothing, exactly.

00:02:17.000 But you be like, I can't believe anybody would live there.

00:02:19.000 Well, why?

00:02:20.000 You don't know anything about it.

00:02:21.000 So how could you not believe somebody would live there?

00:02:22.000 Well, right.

00:02:23.000 How often do people?

00:02:23.000 I'm getting triggered thinking about that already, just to move on.

00:02:26.000 Calm down Mike, calm down.

00:02:28.000 Mike now officially does my DMs.

00:02:30.000 Mike's already a little pissed off because there was some traffic coming.

00:02:35.000 That's not what pisses me off, but I'm just, you think, um, the people just live like a very boring conventional life and then they don't know anything about your life, but then they're almost like questioning like your life, where the right way to ask the question is, Why would I want to live just some boring life?

00:02:53.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:02:54.000 That makes more sense.

00:02:55.000 Oh, it's absolutely true.

00:02:56.000 It's because when I see someone doing something very abstract or something I've never thought of or something very unusual, I think...

00:03:03.000 That's pretty cool.

00:03:03.000 You know, I don't sit there and go, why?

00:03:05.000 But is it safe there?

00:03:07.000 Is Romania safe there? 0.88

00:03:08.000 Aren't you afraid?

00:03:10.000 It's so dangerous everywhere, right?

00:03:12.000 You know what's the most crazy thing for me is this American idea of one, that the whole world's dangerous and parts are, but parts are much safer than here.

00:03:19.000 And then also this idea of freedom.

00:03:21.000 And this has been drilled into, I'm not being anti-American in any way.

00:03:24.000 I'm an American citizen, but the idea that America's free and nowhere else is free.

00:03:27.000 I feel more free in Romania than I do here.

00:03:29.000 Well, explain that.

00:03:30.000 In what way do you... How do you relate freedom to being in Romania?

00:03:34.000 Well, I can give you a very short example.

00:03:36.000 Yeah, please.

00:03:37.000 About three years ago, I flew my cousin into Romania to see me.

00:03:40.000 Now, he's an American from California, and he got in my car.

00:03:43.000 We were having a few beers.

00:03:44.000 He had a beer in his hand.

00:03:45.000 He got in my car.

00:03:46.000 I said, where should I throw this?

00:03:47.000 Now, I haven't lived in America since I was eight years old.

00:03:49.000 I said, why would you need to put your beer outside of my car?

00:03:52.000 He goes, oh, it's an open alcohol container.

00:03:53.000 I said, why can't you, the passenger of my car, drink alcohol while I'm driving?

00:03:57.000 I don't understand.

00:03:58.000 And it really blew my mind.

00:04:00.000 We then got to the mall, and he said, OK, now where do I throw this?

00:04:03.000 I said, why?

00:04:04.000 He says, well, I can go in the mall and drink this.

00:04:06.000 I said, well, are you going to get drunk and attack somebody?

00:04:08.000 He said, no.

00:04:09.000 I said, well, keep your beer in the hand and walk to the mall.

00:04:11.000 What's the problem?

00:04:12.000 Yeah, I think that's exactly right.

00:04:14.000 I think society can only move as fast as the slowest person.

00:04:18.000 That's how groups work.

00:04:19.000 If you have a group of people, you only move as fast as the slowest person.

00:04:21.000 And in some societies where you have all these slow people, you have to make all these super stringent laws to just try and keep society ticking over.

00:04:28.000 So that's a perfect example of the open alcohol container. 0.99

00:04:31.000 That's a law made to make sure that even idiots can't make a mistake. 1.00

00:04:35.000 Like, you have to really cater for the idiots. 0.99

00:04:37.000 Whereas in some societies where people are relatively normal, and I don't even think it's an IQ thing, I think it's more of a cultural thing, where people are more culturally astute and more relatively normal, you don't need such stringent laws and things change. 0.99

00:04:48.000 Romania's laws are very, very lax.

00:04:50.000 You have far more laws here than you do there, and it's still a safer society for just the fact that it's a Christian society and people still respect their parents and Which is a normal place.

00:04:59.000 So here I see all these very stringent laws.

00:05:01.000 Another quick example on the way over here, the Uber driver said he got caught doing 165 miles an hour, which is fast.

00:05:06.000 And he did three months in jail and they crushed his car.

00:05:09.000 I got caught doing 165 miles an hour two weeks ago.

00:05:11.000 And I said, sorry, I gave him 50 bucks.

00:05:13.000 So it's like, where's free?

00:05:15.000 You know, to me, I just feel better there.

00:05:18.000 Yeah.

00:05:19.000 And nowhere is perfect for anywhere.

00:05:20.000 I don't advocate everyone moving to Eastern Europe or to Romania.

00:05:23.000 Different places suit different people.

00:05:25.000 Napa Valley suits you very well, I know, Mr. Bolan.

00:05:28.000 But for somebody like me, Bucharest is an amazing city and I like living there.

00:05:33.000 I don't advocate it for everyone else, though.

00:05:35.000 Yeah, it's just the idea that everywhere that's not America is dangerous.

00:05:40.000 You'd get that in Thailand.

00:05:41.000 I'm like, well, Thailand's safer. 0.70

00:05:42.000 Here, Vietnam. 0.92

00:05:42.000 Vietnam. 0.92

00:05:43.000 Almost everywhere I've been, I haven't gone to Colombia and other parts, but almost everywhere I've been, it's actually safer than the US.

00:05:51.000 Other than you take one kind of bad area, but in America, everybody thinks every other country is like a hellhole or something.

00:05:57.000 Well, this is the thing, because in a lot of these countries, Thailand, Vietnam, even Romania, all of Eastern Europe, the crime is organized.

00:06:03.000 So Thailand has mafia, but if you don't mess with the mafia, they're never going to mess with you.

00:06:06.000 So like, I'd much rather live in a society with an organized crime, with organized crime, meaning that if I run my mouth, I may get in trouble, but there's never going to be a violent random act.

00:06:14.000 act of violence. You're never going to be walking down the street and randomly someone, you know, tries to randomly attack you or all these, this is the, this is kind of like the unique thing about crime in the West. A lot of it's random. It's bad, wrong place, wrong time. Whereas if something bad happens to you in Ukraine, you're probably running your mouth to some dude you shouldn't be running your mouth to. You're very rarely going to go to a cash point and someone just roll up with an AK. It's just not going to happen. So it's interesting.

00:06:36.000 It's almost like people say that New York City in the 1940s or 50s in certain areas was run by the Italian mafia, but they kept the crime away from those areas.

00:06:47.000 It was very safe to be in that area.

00:06:49.000 Well, we in Romania, I mean, we've been there a long time now.

00:06:52.000 know some very high level guys and the high level guys, the mafia guys.

00:06:55.000 So it's like almost like they keep it safer than the police can. They go, no, no drugs don't come to my town. Yeah. We have, my kids are there.

00:07:02.000 So in Bucharest, you don't have a drug culture.

00:07:05.000 Super not nothing like the West, nothing like the West. I mean, if you were to really look for it, you might be able to find some shit weed or something, but there's definitely no heroin. 0.86

00:07:13.000 There's no meth. If there's Coke, you're getting scammed because it's been cut. It's just talcum powder. Like there's no, I mean, if you're going to bother transporting drugs from Columbia to Europe, you're going to stop in London and sell it. 0.97

00:07:23.000 You're not going to take the further risk of taking it all the way to the very edge of the EU where hardly anyone does it.

00:07:27.000 And Romania has a hard border.

00:07:28.000 You have to get it across then another hard border.

00:07:30.000 Right.

00:07:31.000 So there's very little.

00:07:31.000 So how does that affect doing business there?

00:07:34.000 Let's jump out of the illicit activities, but doing a normal course of business where you're going to open up whatever, some kind of restaurant or something.

00:07:43.000 So Romania is absolutely corrupt.

00:07:45.000 But it's a corruption that everyone can participate in.

00:07:48.000 I would much rather live in a country that's corrupt, where I get stopped for speeding and I give them a little bit of money, than a country that's corrupt like America, which says it isn't corrupt, and you have to be a billionaire and have a private jet and go to islands to get away with it, you know?

00:07:59.000 Like, if you're going to be corrupt, which every nation on earth is, then let everyone play the game!

00:08:03.000 So, like, Romania's corrupt.

00:08:04.000 So if you want to open a bar, you need an alcohol license.

00:08:07.000 I mean, if you give the guy a tip or a bribe, you'll get the alcohol license same day, if you don't, it'll take six months.

00:08:12.000 That's a good point, though, and that's a good point about corruption that most people in America don't really understand.

00:08:18.000 They think it's corrupt that you can bribe a street cop, but I think that's better than you have to know, like, the judge and be able to call a judge.

00:08:25.000 Like, the corruption is completely inaccessible.

00:08:28.000 It's just the average, ordinary person, and we have way more corruption in America than in the rest of the world.

00:08:33.000 Of course!

00:08:34.000 I mean, not to be anti-Western or anything, but it's the Western countries that are getting caught with all this pedophile stuff and like the really bad stuff.

00:08:41.000 It's no Eastern European politician that's running around doing all this really bad stuff, you know?

00:08:45.000 Well, and you have the bad actors, oddly enough, dying in a federal prison.

00:08:49.000 Yeah, well, yeah, strange how that happens.

00:08:51.000 Mike knows a thing or two about that, though.

00:08:56.000 I think Mike knows everything about that.

00:08:58.000 More than I wish but yeah and it also too you would be and that's where the culture is different too is.

00:09:06.000 So in the West, one of the weird things about the West as you watch House of Cards, and I thought this too when I got kind of heavily involved in the political world, is one of the great mysteries is like people don't get really murdered, Epstein being an exception, in the West. 0.92

00:09:19.000 But if you were a pedo or something, the local politicians would just be taken out by local elements because the Christians and organized crime would just say, okay, we can't have pedos. 0.98

00:09:30.000 Well yeah, I mean, this is a long story which I'm going to keep short for the point of the broadcast, but there's a monastery near Bucharest I used to visit, because it was on a route, a really nice driving road, and I used to stop there. 0.91

00:09:39.000 And I used to go there all the time, and I had a Lamborghini, so they were very curious.

00:09:42.000 Anyway, I ended up speaking to the head priest.

00:09:45.000 So I'm talking to the head priest, I was talking to him for a while, and then he was talking about leasing me some land, some church land, to build something, blah blah.

00:09:51.000 So I brought my business partner there.

00:09:52.000 And at the end of this meeting, my business partner said, the church still run countries like Romania, because 98% of people identify as Christian.

00:10:00.000 That's an incredible statistic.

00:10:01.000 98%.

00:10:01.000 Wow.

00:10:01.000 The most Christian country in the world.

00:10:03.000 The most Christian country in the world.

00:10:04.000 In that way, in that statistic.

00:10:04.000 It's Orthodox Christians.

00:10:05.000 So if they, if the Christian or the, if the church endorses a political party, it's over.

00:10:10.000 That's the winner.

00:10:12.000 So they, they still have huge influence there, you know?

00:10:14.000 So, um, the only way you're going to get the endorsement of the church, I mean, of course there's some corruption involved, but a lot of it is about good Christian man, all these kinds of things you can't do. 0.99

00:10:22.000 You can't run around and be an asshole and, and get out foreign politics over there. 0.97

00:10:25.000 So a lot of people say, Oh yeah, You know, the politicians there are hard, or they're mean, or they're far-right. 0.99

00:10:30.000 Well, they're Christian, they believe in Christianity, and if you truly believe in Christianity, you're going to be a right-wing politician.

00:10:34.000 How else are you going to be anything else?

00:10:37.000 Yeah, the Polish, one of the high-level Polish MPs got into it with Major Hitzel.

00:10:42.000 I love that guy!

00:10:43.000 Dominic.

00:10:44.000 And they were just saying, well, you know, are you anti-Muslim, whatever.

00:10:47.000 He's like, no, but we're just Christian.

00:10:49.000 Like, I'm not anti-anybody, but no, we're just, Poland is Christian, and that's just the way it's going to be.

00:10:54.000 It's going to be Christian, and then The flip side is you never hear people say, well, why, why doesn't Saudi Arabia taking Christians?

00:11:01.000 They're just, they're Muslim country. 1.00

00:11:02.000 Good for them.

00:11:03.000 That's what they want to do.

00:11:04.000 Exactly.

00:11:04.000 It always goes like one way.

00:11:06.000 So Romania is still safe, but they're, they're working their way East. 1.00

00:11:11.000 So they're trying to really take, you know, make Hungary sort of, you know, something different and they're working on Poland and it'll be interesting to see when they start to try to apply that pressure to Romania.

00:11:20.000 Yeah, and the Romanians, if you ask a Romanian person how it is there, they said, when they start messing with our religion and they start messing with our money, that's when we throw a revolution. 1.00

00:11:28.000 And that's what the Romanians typically will do. 0.99

00:11:30.000 Now, I was driving down a very famous street in Romania and they have flags everywhere.

00:11:34.000 The Romanian flag is everywhere in that country.

00:11:35.000 I'm not sure if you guys noticed.

00:11:36.000 And I was driving with a Romanian friend of mine, a business partner.

00:11:39.000 And I said to him, you know in England they take these flags down because if I call and say, well I'm Indian and England under this flag committed crimes in India and I find this flag offensive, they actually seriously consider it and then they do take the flags down in some cases.

00:11:52.000 I said, what would happen if I were to call them and say, well I'm Turkish and we had a war with Romania and this flag offends me in Bucharest, can you take it down?

00:11:57.000 They said, don't even do that as a joke because they'll find a way of making you leave the country.

00:12:02.000 Okay, I'm not doing it.

00:12:03.000 You know, they're very proud of who they are.

00:12:05.000 Yeah, they're proud of who they are.

00:12:06.000 They're proud of their religion.

00:12:07.000 And this is the biggest thing about all societies.

00:12:10.000 It's not even about West versus East.

00:12:11.000 As soon as you have a society which half hates itself or doesn't have anything to unify itself under, whether it be a religion or a flag or anything else, you end up with what we have in the West, which is just a free-for-all.

00:12:20.000 How long have the brothers Tate been in Rome?

00:12:24.000 Four years, T?

00:12:25.000 Four years now, yeah.

00:12:26.000 Four years.

00:12:27.000 And yeah, I mean, all of Eastern Europe's good, but it's just a good combination for us, and yeah, it's a really nice place.

00:12:33.000 I mean, everywhere has its cons.

00:12:35.000 If you go there and you work a normal job, you're broke.

00:12:37.000 But if you have some money and you're, you know, you're out there and you're doing your thing, it's a really, really pleasant place to live and you're never going to have any trouble.

00:12:42.000 Is he fine?

00:12:43.000 It's a good place for young hustlers.

00:12:45.000 Yeah.

00:12:46.000 Digital nomad kind of thing.

00:12:47.000 You know, you know, it's, it's, it's a, it's a cool place.

00:12:49.000 And you have a few of those guys that work for you that, that have transitioned there from other countries and how are they doing?

00:12:55.000 Yeah.

00:12:55.000 So, um, yeah, so my, my very simple business philosophy is that, um, I don't hire people based on openings I have.

00:13:04.000 I hire people based on who they are and if I like them and then I find an opening for them.

00:13:08.000 So there's a few guys who I really believed in and I believed in their work ethic and I believed in their ambition and I thought, you know what?

00:13:13.000 I'll hire them and then I'll find something for them to do living with us now.

00:13:17.000 And I'm excellent at finding work to do.

00:13:18.000 How long are they going to last though?

00:13:21.000 Well, that's a very good question.

00:13:22.000 I mean, so far, I'm happy with them.

00:13:24.000 So far, they're doing okay.

00:13:26.000 They haven't upset me in any way yet.

00:13:27.000 But yeah, I think they'll do all right.

00:13:30.000 I think they'll be around for a while, hopefully.

00:13:32.000 I mean, they seem to like the place and they're making enough money.

00:13:34.000 Yeah, one thing I found with the quote-unquote digital nomads is a lot of them are just dysfunctional people and they just can't get any job.

00:13:41.000 So then they're like, oh, I'll just go work on the internet, not realizing that it's actually harder to do because you have to be an entrepreneur.

00:13:49.000 You're gonna actually work harder.

00:13:51.000 Like, I lived in Chiang Mai for a little bit and all over, and it would always be funny.

00:13:55.000 I would see these people selling these courses on how to be a digital nomad, how much money they're making, but like, I knew all of them and they were all like broke.

00:14:01.000 Yeah, of course.

00:14:01.000 So they were making like $1,500 a month or something like that.

00:14:04.000 Yeah, I mean, absolutely.

00:14:06.000 And I have one guy who works for me who's exactly like that, who's literally semi-dysfunctional, so he's in trouble.

00:14:11.000 But no, you're right.

00:14:12.000 And the Internet's full of fakers.

00:14:14.000 I guess the reason I'm quite successful with my marketing is I've kind of come along and been like, OK, here's proof of everything.

00:14:20.000 Which is quite rare, you know?

00:14:21.000 Like, I've really put myself out there.

00:14:23.000 And one of the reasons I can do that is also because I live in Romania.

00:14:26.000 You know, it's amazing to me that, like, in the West, doxing's a thing.

00:14:29.000 I'll tell you my address right now.

00:14:31.000 Right.

00:14:31.000 Come get me!

00:14:32.000 You know, it's like, it's kind of cool when you're over there.

00:14:34.000 You're like, no one's gonna dox me, no one's gonna roll up.

00:14:36.000 If they do, I know, I call my friends and they're in big trouble.

00:14:39.000 It's like, it's kind of, it's kind of cool from that perspective.

00:14:41.000 It was kind of hard to find you a place even with an address, too.

00:14:44.000 Yeah, what are you gonna do?

00:14:45.000 The taxi driver's gonna rip you off on the way there.

00:14:49.000 Walks down the road, the GPS quit working.

00:14:51.000 Yeah.

00:14:52.000 Then you have to go to the McDonald's gas station and have you guys come pick us up.

00:14:55.000 Exactly.

00:14:56.000 That happened to someone I know.

00:14:57.000 So it's kind of, it's kind of cool from that perspective, you know, like just, uh, kind of being so far off radar, it gives me some, it gives me some bravery. 0.99

00:15:06.000 You know, if I was exactly the same way I am living in America, I'd always be thinking at night, maybe some idiot is going to roll up. 0.93

00:15:11.000 He knows I got some money. 0.99

00:15:12.000 He knows I've got some nice cars, rolls up with whatever, you don't know, you know?

00:15:15.000 Or even a creepy stalker, like people like Logan Paul and those guys, fans or whatever, they've just found them camping out in the yard outside.

00:15:23.000 So you could just get straight up creepy people who don't maybe want to kill you necessarily for what you have, but they're just creepy kind of incels or something like that.

00:15:32.000 You know what, I would love to, if I ever become king of the world, which maybe might happen, I need to instruct the best scientists in the world and I'd love to do some kind of study on like culture and on people and work out why some countries are full of weirdos and some countries just aren't.

00:15:47.000 And I mean this genuinely, like the idea of a stalker coming outside your house and wanting to be you, that is so American.

00:15:54.000 That's never going to happen in Eastern Europe.

00:15:55.000 People are too busy, they have to pay the bills, they're busy. 0.99

00:15:58.000 No one has time for that crap. 1.00

00:16:00.000 It's crazy. 0.99

00:16:01.000 One of the examples I can give on this is if you ever do see a homeless person in Romania, every country has homeless people.

00:16:07.000 Bucharest has far less than Los Angeles, I do have to say.

00:16:10.000 He's an old friendly guy, he's drinking, he says, hey my friend, I need some money for some more beer.

00:16:13.000 I'll give him money, he'll say, oh thanks, he might sing a song and walk down the road.

00:16:16.000 He's the friendly 1960s style bum that you'll imagine from New York, you know?

00:16:20.000 I was in Los Angeles about a year ago, and a homeless person walked into a Taco Bell restaurant and started harassing the staff.

00:16:27.000 I kid you not, it was a gentleman, my size, about six foot four, 220 pound black man, wearing lingerie, stockings, and high heels with razor sharp fingernails, and I thought, That's terrible. 0.99

00:16:38.000 Like, only in America.

00:16:40.000 I've never seen that. 0.97

00:16:41.000 Why is this a place full of crazies? 0.81

00:16:43.000 Like, why? 0.95

00:16:44.000 I mean, it's empire in decline.

00:16:46.000 It's self-indulgent.

00:16:48.000 Where, like, you notice this in Vietnam, too, is the homeless people are quite respectful.

00:16:54.000 Highly, the homeless people are quite respectful.

00:16:56.000 And then in America, tolerance went too far to where, oh, we have to feel bad for these homeless people, and then bad actors take advantage of it.

00:17:03.000 Because begging has always existed, and even in the Bible and other texts, begging was considered an honorable profession.

00:17:10.000 There's nothing you can do.

00:17:13.000 There was a guy in Vietnam we would drive by every day, actually, near the house, and he had no arms, and he just had feet, and he would sell lottery tickets by the side of the road.

00:17:21.000 You're just like, what else is he going to do?

00:17:23.000 That's an honorable thing, right?

00:17:24.000 But here you have guys like us harassing people, like getting in their faces.

00:17:28.000 They're like intimidating.

00:17:29.000 And then even if you, you know, can fight, you're like, well, this guy could have hepatitis and he's going to claw your face.

00:17:34.000 And nobody, nobody will crack down on that at all because then that would be seen as like, oh, you're intolerant.

00:17:39.000 You don't care about the homeless people and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:17:42.000 So that's just far wing, far left wing in action.

00:17:46.000 I'm gonna say something that's probably gonna get us all in trouble on this podcast, so I'm sorry.

00:17:51.000 Recently, I've been in a few countries.

00:17:53.000 I was in Belarus, and I was in a few other countries, and they're all run by dictators, and they are so clean.

00:17:58.000 And I'd say to people, like, why is this place, like, in Belarus, all around all those sidewalks, they have granite.

00:18:04.000 You know, like granite from the granite marble top, if you buy an expensive kitchen table.

00:18:08.000 They have all this beautiful granite everywhere.

00:18:09.000 This is in Minsk.

00:18:10.000 This is a poor country.

00:18:11.000 This is Belarus.

00:18:12.000 And I was like, why? And he goes, the dictator drove through and he just said he wanted to look better and he just pointed and it got done next day. And I was like, okay, well, obviously under dictatorship, things get done quickly. But the problem with dictatorship is that obviously, if you're an enemy of the state, you get in trouble. And then I was sitting there thinking, looking at England and some of the things that have happened with Tommy Robinson and stuff.

00:18:29.000 And I was thinking, if you're an enemy of the state in the West, you're in trouble anyway.

00:18:33.000 Are we really safe and protected?

00:18:34.000 This jumps right back to the Epstein. 0.98

00:18:36.000 Are we really protected by this democracy and law and all this garbage?

00:18:40.000 No, like Julian Assange is in some, um, even in the UK, he actually has done his time because they go, Oh, we're not holding him for extraditing. 0.93

00:18:48.000 We're holding him for this sexual thing or whatever.

00:18:50.000 Complete lie.

00:18:50.000 The ultimate me too.

00:18:52.000 And then the sentence for that was over and he's still in there.

00:18:56.000 There's no way to get him out.

00:18:57.000 And you can't even bribe somebody to get him out.

00:18:59.000 So in many ways it's worse because if you're the enemy of the state here, Roger Stone's on trial.

00:19:05.000 They'll come after you with the full weight of the law.

00:19:08.000 destroy you just the same. So they're like, oh yeah, because the dispeller Russian girl, she was like, oh yeah, but if you upset the president, I was like, look, the West is really not any better. And at least here you can have someone drive through the neighborhood and clean it up in 10 minutes. Give me a dictatorial drive through LA and say, you know, that's enough. This, this, this, this, here's a list. I want it done by Monday. 1.00

00:19:24.000 Yeah. Like, you know, like let's just get stuff done.

00:19:26.000 Because you're no safer here than you are there anyway.

00:19:28.000 You upset the government, you're in trouble, so.

00:19:30.000 I have seen tent cities in two places.

00:19:33.000 Lagos, Nigeria, and Los Angeles, California.

00:19:36.000 I was explaining to a native of California yesterday, a girl I ran into, I was explaining to her how weird it is to see a tent city.

00:19:43.000 She's like, oh, what do your homeless people live in?

00:19:45.000 I'm like...

00:19:47.000 I don't know, but they're not intense on the side of the road.

00:19:50.000 A good friend of mine, Bobby Dino, who you guys know, I picked him up from the airport in Bucharest, and we were driving to my house.

00:19:56.000 He says, you know, it's so strange to see nobody living under this overpass, this motorway overpass.

00:20:00.000 I said, why would people be living under a bridge?

00:20:03.000 That's not where people live.

00:20:04.000 People live in houses.

00:20:05.000 They don't live under the bridge.

00:20:06.000 This isn't a fairy tale.

00:20:07.000 And he just found it mind-blowing, because he's from the California area.

00:20:09.000 It's gotten worse, too.

00:20:11.000 It's gotten way worse over the past five or 10 years.

00:20:15.000 Where, and it's just filth, and that goes back to, why do they exist?

00:20:18.000 Well, they're not quote-unquote real homeless people. 0.97

00:20:21.000 They're just druggies. 0.86

00:20:23.000 And you can't say that, like, they're just, they're druggie. 0.89

00:20:26.000 Like, you walk down the street, and they walk like in a zombified opioid state.

00:20:31.000 They're not people, they were born with no arms.

00:20:33.000 And like, what else are they gonna do?

00:20:36.000 It's absolutely true.

00:20:36.000 And that's one point.

00:20:38.000 The hard drugs are massive.

00:20:39.000 I mean, anyone who's in the right psychological state of mind could find a job and find a Airbnb bed for five bucks a night and work something out.

00:20:47.000 The fact that they end up there, it means that they have some kind of psychological issue.

00:20:50.000 And people say, Oh, you must feel sorry for them.

00:20:52.000 Maybe, but it's a tough world and we all have to deal with our own problems.

00:20:55.000 And if you're going to just shrug all your problems aside and expect society to save you, I don't really feel too sorry for you.

00:21:00.000 They got on drugs.

00:21:01.000 I mean, one of the most poignant moments when I was much younger was, I was just walking down the street in San Francisco.

00:21:07.000 This is before the drugs got really bad, 12 years ago, maybe 13 years ago.

00:21:11.000 And a guy who just, you know, looked like a respectable guy, just walking in front of me, all of a sudden he makes a beeline and almost bumps into me.

00:21:17.000 And I thought that was weird.

00:21:18.000 And he's sitting down, then he just goes and sits down on Walgreens.

00:21:20.000 I was like, well, that's weird, you know?

00:21:22.000 Yeah.

00:21:22.000 He doesn't look like a beggar or whatever.

00:21:24.000 And then I was out late, two months later, I saw the same guy, big beard, digging through trash, eating.

00:21:30.000 And I thought, I just literally saw that guy's deterioration.

00:21:32.000 So at the time, there was no opioid thing.

00:21:34.000 It just didn't make sense to me.

00:21:35.000 I didn't know what was going on.

00:21:38.000 And he realized, yeah, he just went from a normal, respectable guy, druggy, and he was good looking, fit, you know, you name it.

00:21:43.000 And sits down, that's his first day of begging, and now he's digging through the trash.

00:21:48.000 Isn't this all just a breakdown of like, Of like family.

00:21:52.000 Like I, cause when I speak to Romanian people and I explain like in, in, in England now that a big problem with, with old people and pensions and they have nowhere to put them and old people home and stuff.

00:22:00.000 And I sit and I think, well, England's putting billions and billions into this.

00:22:03.000 These poor Eastern European countries put zero into this stuff because, well, that's your mother. 0.96

00:22:08.000 You look after your mother.

00:22:09.000 That's your grandparents.

00:22:09.000 You look after your grandparents.

00:22:10.000 Like the family do so much work that now we've passed over to governments. 1.00

00:22:14.000 Like if, if, if, if in Eastern Europe, if you try to be a druggy, your own brothers would kick the shit out of you. 0.99

00:22:19.000 Like what are you doing? 1.00

00:22:20.000 This is our name. 1.00

00:22:20.000 You gotta be fucking running around breaking into houses. 1.00

00:22:22.000 Andrew, I think you and I had this conversation when I was in Romania, was that there's not a social safety net there. 1.00

00:22:29.000 Zero! 0.90

00:22:29.000 There's zero! 0.90

00:22:30.000 So if you're homeless or you're down on your luck or whatever the issue is, you've got two options.

00:22:35.000 It's either church that takes you in and helps you.

00:22:38.000 If you're a member of the church, or its family. That's it. And it's crazy how here we talk about we need more social programs, more social programs, and you're putting in billions and billions of dollars that exceed the entire GDPs of these countries. And they have a fraction of the issues purely because people just go to their family and they say, look, I'm down on my luck.

00:22:54.000 I need to stay with you. And the family is like, yeah, okay, cool. And everyone just gets along and there's no big argument, no big fight.

00:22:59.000 Just, you know, you have to sleep on the couch. Okay.

00:23:01.000 And isn't that normal?

00:23:03.000 Like, when I first started making money, I retired my mother.

00:23:05.000 I called her up and said, look, because she was still a dinner lady. 1.00

00:23:08.000 She was washing dishes. 1.00

00:23:08.000 And I said, fuck that off. 1.00

00:23:09.000 Quit. 1.00

00:23:10.000 I'll triple your money and you stay at home.

00:23:12.000 And when I told people I do that, they go, don't you think it's weird if you look after your own, like, she's a grownup.

00:23:17.000 I was like, well, why?

00:23:18.000 And they were calling me a weirdo.

00:23:19.000 And I said, isn't that as old as human time?

00:23:21.000 The sons make money to look after the parents.

00:23:23.000 Isn't that the way it's supposed to be?

00:23:25.000 I don't know.

00:23:26.000 I thought that was normal.

00:23:27.000 And everyone's coming after me.

00:23:28.000 Well, she's a grownup. 0.92

00:23:29.000 Why does she need your help? 1.00

00:23:29.000 Well, she's wasted her life. 1.00

00:23:30.000 She has no money. 1.00

00:23:31.000 To me, it was like the Western attitude towards the whole thing was so skewed.

00:23:35.000 In good conscience, if you're a millionaire and your mother's washing plates for 10 pounds an hour, you can't have it.

00:23:41.000 Or like, I'll give you another example.

00:23:42.000 When Serena Williams, remember Serena Williams' sister got shot?

00:23:45.000 Remember that?

00:23:45.000 I remember watching the news.

00:23:46.000 I was sitting there with my girlfriend at the time and girlfriend was like, oh, it's so sad.

00:23:50.000 Look how upset she was because Serena or whichever one Venus was crying, crying her eyes out. 1.00

00:23:54.000 And I was like, why is her sister still living in Compton?

00:23:57.000 Like you're going to be so stingy with your money.

00:23:59.000 You're going to make all that money and you're not going to bail your entire family, your entire, every single one who's half related to you out of the worst neighborhood in the world.

00:24:07.000 Then you're going to go on TV and cry your eyes out because you saved $150,000 from your 200 million on buying her a half nice house.

00:24:14.000 What's wrong with people?

00:24:15.000 It's just crazy to me.

00:24:16.000 I don't understand it.

00:24:18.000 Yeah.

00:24:18.000 You know.

00:24:19.000 It's the cultural deterioration.

00:24:21.000 And then, likewise, too, though, is the reason you don't have a lot of these problems in Eastern Europe is because if you want to be a druggie, they're just not going to accept it.

00:24:32.000 You just can't be.

00:24:33.000 But it's culturally, and this is what people don't really understand, I think, living in a kind of a free-for-all that we live in now is, what do you mean I just can't do it?

00:24:40.000 You just can't do it.

00:24:41.000 No one's going to give you an ounce of sympathy. 1.00

00:24:43.000 You would get your ass beat. 1.00

00:24:45.000 Your peer pressure would be like, you can't do that. 1.00

00:24:47.000 You can't live that way.

00:24:49.000 And here they're like, well, I can do whatever they want.

00:24:51.000 And we see where that leads to.

00:24:52.000 And the culture and the language very much backs this up.

00:24:55.000 When I read American people talk about the problems of addiction, and it is a big problem, it's a serious problem, which needs a serious solution. 0.97

00:25:01.000 Oh, well, these people are sick.

00:25:03.000 It's not their fault. 0.99

00:25:05.000 These people have a disease and that's why they're here.

00:25:08.000 And full disclosure, by the way, on the point we made earlier, me and Andrew aren't some rich snobs looking down on people.

00:25:13.000 We used to live in a homeless shelter in England for two years.

00:25:15.000 Our whole family lived in a homeless shelter.

00:25:17.000 We come from as poor as you can get living in the Western world.

00:25:20.000 But yeah, even the language that they talk, whereas in Eastern Europe, I have Polish friends, Slovak friends, I do a lot of business over there.

00:25:27.000 They're realistic.

00:25:28.000 It's your fault.

00:25:28.000 What are you doing?

00:25:29.000 Why are you taking drugs?

00:25:30.000 Put the drugs down.

00:25:32.000 It's your fault.

00:25:32.000 What are you doing?

00:25:33.000 Yeah.

00:25:34.000 In the West, the language is just very skewed.

00:25:36.000 It's nobody's fault.

00:25:37.000 Nobody's responsible.

00:25:38.000 Well, it's society's fault, actually.

00:25:40.000 No, no, it blows me away because I read a lot of these San Francisco tweets where these people, it's gotten so bad now that they'll just break into your house, break into your car.

00:25:51.000 One night, 165 cars broken in.

00:25:53.000 And you would think everybody would just be like, okay, this is enough.

00:25:56.000 But you'll actually see comments to the stories, oh, this is so terrible that people feel like they have to break into a car.

00:26:02.000 Yeah, like they're- And I'm like, okay, if this doesn't wake people up, I don't really know what to do with you.

00:26:06.000 You're beyond- Zombies.

00:26:07.000 Yeah, you're not even thinking, oh, it's a shame that they feel the need to break- Because I've seen the kind of people who do it that are street gangs of teenagers.

00:26:14.000 Of course.

00:26:14.000 They do it for fun.

00:26:15.000 They don't feel the need to do it.

00:26:17.000 And they're not trying to meet some kind of deep financial need.

00:26:20.000 And isn't that break isn't that the breakdown of society on the most fundamental level?

00:26:23.000 Like I literally the breakdown on the most fundamental level where these kind of things are happening and people are going to try and pretend they feel sorry for them.

00:26:29.000 It's absolutely insane.

00:26:30.000 Well, yeah, the one thing the government should do if you're going to have a government is you should be able to just walk around a city and be unmolested.

00:26:39.000 you're not gonna get hit by homeless.

00:26:41.000 To me, you should just take that for granted, but you go to San Francisco, you better watch your back during the daytime.

00:26:47.000 There was, Noe Valley's actually quite rich area, median household price, $1.5 million.

00:26:52.000 Mother was walking with her kids, and a guy just came over and just smashed her over the head, dude.

00:26:57.000 And Noe Valley, and that isn't the kind of thing that happens there, but the flip side to that is, I don't feel sorry for the people of San Francisco, because this is the world that they're creating. 0.93

00:27:08.000 But then meanwhile, they're going to listen to this podcast and look for hate speech on the podcast while they're getting bricked in the head by druggy degenerates.

00:27:17.000 They're worried about talk.

00:27:18.000 They're worried about speech.

00:27:19.000 That's a great contrast.

00:27:20.000 Very great.

00:27:22.000 And it's not just San Francisco.

00:27:23.000 London's exactly the same. 1.00

00:27:24.000 They keep voting for the same stupid, stupid things. 1.00

00:27:27.000 They keep, they refuse to pass hard laws. 1.00

00:27:29.000 Crime is going up thousands of percent a year.

00:27:31.000 It's like 30 or 40 stabbings a day.

00:27:34.000 And everyone's dying and they're just sitting there going, oh, well, you know, maybe if we wait long enough, like what's going to happen?

00:27:39.000 I'm a man who's always believed, and I think every man understands this, action over inaction.

00:27:44.000 And I think it was General Patton who said, a good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.

00:27:49.000 You gotta do something, and you gotta do something fast.

00:27:50.000 You just sitting around talking about it and hoping for things to get better has never- I don't know about you gentlemen, but every time I ran out of money in my bank and I thought I'm gonna sit around and hope for something to come, it never really worked out.

00:28:01.000 It never worked out, you know?

00:28:02.000 Which is a way why crisis- because we can segue a little bit into what you guys do, because I know you guys, you know, we're having a sociopolitical conversation, which is good, And I like to talk about that stuff too, but then I found that that attracted a class of people, and by class I don't mean socioeconomic, because many of them were quite wealthy, though who they only want to talk about problems, I think, as a way to not deal with their own lives.

00:28:26.000 Yep.

00:28:27.000 And their own problems.

00:28:28.000 So they're like political addicts and can't believe the world's falling apart.

00:28:31.000 It's like, well, I mean, actually you're falling apart.

00:28:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:34.000 What are you doing about your own life?

00:28:35.000 And I know that you do a lot of sort of, I don't know if mentorship is the right word, but you are in a certain space trying to help people live better lives.

00:28:44.000 So what's that look like?

00:28:45.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:28:46.000 I think you said the perfect thing there about themselves.

00:28:48.000 People, they're falling apart and they're worried about the outside world because that's the exact answer I get.

00:28:52.000 People come to me and go, I'm really worried about the West.

00:28:55.000 I'm worried about having kids, more about this.

00:28:56.000 I'm like, look, okay, bro, do you have enough money to move?

00:28:59.000 No.

00:29:00.000 Don't worry about voting for nothing.

00:29:02.000 Don't worry about sitting there reading every political article.

00:29:04.000 Look after yourself first.

00:29:06.000 You can't pour from an empty cup.

00:29:07.000 The first thing you should be focused on is, if you're really truly concerned about these problems, is at least have enough money in the bank or enough assets or whatever it takes for you to say, you know what?

00:29:15.000 I'm booking a flight.

00:29:16.000 I'm going to Singapore.

00:29:17.000 I'm going to chill in an Airbnb for the next three years.

00:29:20.000 Worry about yourself first.

00:29:21.000 And once you get that kind of mindset and that kind of attitude, politics becomes a hobby.

00:29:25.000 It doesn't become your be all and end all.

00:29:27.000 And that's how it should be.

00:29:28.000 If you're looking at a politician, good or bad, to either improve your life or you think a politician is going to ruin your life, you've got the wrong mindset towards life in the first place.

00:29:35.000 I mean, I'm a Trump fan, but has my life got any better under Trump?

00:29:39.000 Really?

00:29:40.000 I just enjoy the trolling.

00:29:41.000 I mean, it makes me laugh, you know, but like in general, like it's kind of like a politician can only do so much.

00:29:47.000 So my mentorship attitude is very, very much you're on your own.

00:29:51.000 And I guess that maybe comes from the fight thing.

00:29:52.000 I mean, you're in the ring on your own.

00:29:53.000 No one's going to save you.

00:29:54.000 You got the best coach in the world.

00:29:56.000 You're there alone.

00:29:56.000 You're getting hit.

00:29:57.000 I think a piece here that's interesting that maybe we're skipping over because, you know, there's a lot of people out there that don't necessarily know who you guys are, is that both Tristan and Andrew actually have a mentorship program where you guys are literally mentoring young men and helping them better their lives, therefore bettering society.

00:30:19.000 We'll talk a little bit about what your program is.

00:30:22.000 What is it?

00:30:22.000 Yeah, so basically it's called The War Room, and it's absolutely everything from the ground up, whether it's your physical fitness, your finances, your attitudes, and your relationships with women.

00:30:30.000 Everything from the ground up, because my attitude towards life, and this is, once again, people are going to come along and say I'm wrong.

00:30:36.000 I really believe you have to be a very well-versed person, and I believe you have to be successful in many different areas to be happy.

00:30:42.000 You show me a rich guy who's terrible with women, he's unhappy.

00:30:45.000 You show me a guy who's good with girls with no money, he's unhappy.

00:30:48.000 You need to have the woman who loves you in a stable relationship.

00:30:50.000 You need to have a good financial income.

00:30:51.000 You gotta have good health.

00:30:52.000 Nothing means anything if you're in hospital.

00:30:54.000 So it's like teaching everything from the ground up because some of these guys are lacking everywhere.

00:30:59.000 Some of them are lacking in one place.

00:31:01.000 Sure.

00:31:01.000 But you know, it's just trying to explain that, you know, being the fitness bro and going to the gym every day and getting jacked, but not having a stable bank account and living with your mother at 33 is not how life should be lived.

00:31:13.000 You have to be able to do everything.

00:31:14.000 You're obviously going to suffer from depression.

00:31:17.000 People went nuts when I said depression wasn't real, and I think people misunderstood me.

00:31:20.000 My point is, a depressed state of mind is real.

00:31:24.000 The idea that a depression is a disease that comes from the sky and attacks you at random, I don't believe is real.

00:31:28.000 I believe that people react to their surroundings, and I'm telling you now, I'm a strong-minded individual.

00:31:33.000 If I was broke, working in Pizza Hut, without a girlfriend, living in a basement, Playing video games.

00:31:38.000 I'd be depressed.

00:31:39.000 Yeah.

00:31:39.000 Who wouldn't?

00:31:40.000 Right.

00:31:40.000 I mean, this is a natural human condition.

00:31:42.000 And we've essentially, I mean, worked in fast food restaurants and had no money when we were 18, 19.

00:31:46.000 I know how it feels, so.

00:31:48.000 It's a depressing existence.

00:31:49.000 Like, well, of course you're depressed.

00:31:50.000 Well, one thing I think that's fascinating about The War Room versus some other groups out there is that your organization, The War Room, it actually teaches a talent stack, as you alluded to.

00:32:03.000 Yep.

00:32:04.000 It's not teaching you, hey, here's how you, you know, take some protein powder and lift some weights, right?

00:32:09.000 It's actually teaching you there's a money component, there's a networking component.

00:32:14.000 I mean, how do I walk into a room and actually not be a weirdo, right?

00:32:19.000 Absolutely.

00:32:19.000 And how do I relate to people?

00:32:21.000 How can I, you know, increase my romantic life?

00:32:24.000 How can I improve my financial situation?

00:32:26.000 You guys have a whole talent stack within that group.

00:32:29.000 Both Mike and I are members of the group and so we've seen it.

00:32:33.000 But the stack that you're teaching in there is more than just one item.

00:32:37.000 Yeah, you need everything.

00:32:38.000 And are told, don't have pride in anything, don't be arrogant in anything.

00:32:40.000 You show me an arrogant dude who has his life all together, that's the kind of man I respect.

00:32:44.000 I don't care if you come along and say, I'm the Don.

00:32:46.000 I've got my wife, she loves me.

00:32:47.000 I've got my children, she loves me.

00:32:48.000 I know I can afford to feed them.

00:32:50.000 I don't need anyone but myself.

00:32:52.000 That's the kind of person I respect.

00:32:53.000 And so many people come to me and they're like, oh, but you know, you come across as arrogant.

00:32:56.000 I said, my life's just fine. 0.98

00:32:58.000 You know, and maybe you should be more arrogant and you won't take so much crap from people and you might get somewhere. 0.86

00:33:03.000 And you're really, you are improving lives. 0.95

00:33:05.000 I mean, we had this discussion before, you know, about these socioeconomic conditions, but you're actually taking action.

00:33:12.000 You and your brother are taking action and actually improving people's lives, therefore improving the world.

00:33:16.000 I mean, you have, we're in Los Angeles right now.

00:33:19.000 You have a group of people down the street at another facility where you're doing training right now.

00:33:26.000 We're trading them right now.

00:33:27.000 And we had a hundred people in the Transylvanian mountains.

00:33:29.000 You guys came out like it was crazy how fast it's come off.

00:33:32.000 And Michael, I'd like to hear Sernovich's point of view on this, but I really am a believer that if you're an able-bodied man in the West, you can get your life together.

00:33:40.000 I don't care what, how bad it starts.

00:33:42.000 I don't care.

00:33:42.000 Like I have a sob story.

00:33:43.000 You have a sob story.

00:33:44.000 Mike has a sob story.

00:33:45.000 None of us had a perfect start, but if you're an able-bodied man with the right mindset, there's no reason to live anything other than a nice, good, comfortable life.

00:33:52.000 You may not be a billionaire, You're going to have a wife who respects you, you're going to have children, you're going to have money in the bank, and everything's going to be fine.

00:33:57.000 And that's my personal view.

00:33:58.000 Yeah, all the information's there. 0.99

00:34:00.000 That's why, in a way, I'm simultaneously empathetic to people's condition, but also very intolerant, where I'm just like, you're pathetic. 0.98

00:34:08.000 I just don't even watch your energy near me. 0.98

00:34:11.000 What do you mean?

00:34:13.000 Yeah.

00:34:13.000 you're physically able to walk, you don't have any like defects or whatever, and you're just, oh, I don't know, I can't do that, or why do you do this, or what if I do this, or how do I do that?

00:34:22.000 It's like, you can't pick up a book, right?

00:34:24.000 You just, or you can now go to the internet, you can like game theory or any kind of thing out.

00:34:29.000 And the thing I like about your approach is that you just don't allow people to ask questions.

00:34:35.000 Like, no, you have to give me a situation.

00:34:38.000 I went into this job, I applied, I've talked for half an hour, here's the way the interview did, what went wrong, versus, oh, how do I find a job?

00:34:45.000 It's like, get out of here.

00:34:46.000 Absolutely.

00:34:47.000 It's super results based because I've kicked people out.

00:34:50.000 I've had people who join and they don't do what they don't listen or they don't show.

00:34:53.000 We say, call it showing receipts.

00:34:54.000 Show me something you're doing.

00:34:55.000 So one week we'll say, you're going to do something impressive this week.

00:34:58.000 I don't care what it is.

00:34:59.000 You better show it.

00:35:00.000 If you don't do it, then you get kicked out.

00:35:01.000 And that's the reality.

00:35:02.000 And that's the reality of life, man.

00:35:03.000 That's the reality of life.

00:35:04.000 You, you can't be sitting around waiting for things to happen to you.

00:35:07.000 Also, I think, especially in the West, a lot of people's problems are all in their mind.

00:35:11.000 And I'm not saying that mental conditions aren't real because absolutely some are, but I try and explain to people, look, If you, the only thing on the planet you have genuine control over is your state of mind.

00:35:22.000 Like you can't even control your health.

00:35:23.000 You might get hit by lightning.

00:35:24.000 You can't control other people.

00:35:25.000 You can't control the weather.

00:35:26.000 You can't control anything.

00:35:27.000 The only thing you can affect in genuine real time is how you feel in your head.

00:35:32.000 And so much of that is true because, you know, Scott Adams calls a mental presence other people talk about differently.

00:35:37.000 And yeah, there's a difference.

00:35:38.000 Like I've known people, this is why I don't have any patients for men who are like, like my mom was bipolar.

00:35:44.000 Like I know what a real mental illness is.

00:35:47.000 You don't have a mental illness. 1.00

00:35:48.000 You're just a pussy. 1.00

00:35:49.000 You're just pathetic and afraid to take any kind of action, and these mental problems people have are, well, I'm afraid to go do that. 1.00

00:35:55.000 Why? 1.00

00:35:55.000 Because you're going to get rejected? 1.00

00:35:57.000 Are you going to die? 0.86

00:35:57.000 Are you going to go cry yourself to sleep? 0.86

00:35:59.000 So in their own mind, they have this fear of some consequence that may or may not even happen, and that is they're living in a mental prison.

00:36:08.000 Or, you know, we had to bully, you know, Bolin here a little bit.

00:36:12.000 He used to go to Romania because he was in a mental prison, never traveled internationally. 0.99

00:36:15.000 It's like, you have the money, just get on a fucking plane, you know? 0.99

00:36:19.000 Just get on a plane. 0.99

00:36:21.000 Because Mike was like, well, what flight are you going to be on?

00:36:22.000 I'm like, look, bro, I'm not your travel agent.

00:36:24.000 Just get on a plane and do it.

00:36:26.000 And then you realize, oh, that was amazing.

00:36:28.000 I'm glad I did that.

00:36:29.000 Yeah.

00:36:30.000 I'll take credit for bullying Mike.

00:36:31.000 And there's so many people who just, they don't, they literally live in prisons of their own making where there won't be any real consequences. 1.00

00:36:39.000 Yeah, you might look stupid. 1.00

00:36:40.000 Yeah, you might. 1.00

00:36:41.000 I mean, you've looked stupid. 1.00

00:36:43.000 Everyone has. 1.00

00:36:44.000 Everyone has.

00:36:44.000 And the worst thing is these prisons are propped up by people who care about them.

00:36:49.000 And I say care in this video.

00:36:52.000 I say care in apostrophes because they think they care by reinforcing someone's negative behavior and attitudes.

00:36:57.000 If someone comes to me and goes, oh, I get really shy and anxious.

00:36:59.000 I'll say so.

00:37:00.000 Right.

00:37:01.000 Like, not, not, oh, okay, that must be horrible.

00:37:02.000 No, so?

00:37:03.000 Do it anyway.

00:37:04.000 Yeah, but I'm shy.

00:37:05.000 I don't care.

00:37:05.000 I don't, no one cares.

00:37:07.000 The whole world doesn't care.

00:37:08.000 Nobody cares.

00:37:08.000 Go!

00:37:08.000 If you could drop dead tomorrow, the world wouldn't care.

00:37:10.000 The sun's still gonna rise. 0.74

00:37:11.000 People are still gonna go to work.

00:37:12.000 So you're gonna sit there and worry about speaking?

00:37:14.000 Like, so many people are trying to be supportive, especially in the West.

00:37:17.000 You have these family units and people around other people, and they think they're doing the right thing by being supportive, when really, you just need to be told, Piss off.

00:37:25.000 I don't care.

00:37:25.000 I'm not interested in your excuse.

00:37:26.000 This is what you're teaching in the War Room.

00:37:28.000 Yeah, I was gonna say that is one thing I will add about the War Room.

00:37:30.000 We are a movement of positivity.

00:37:32.000 Me and Andrew are not archetypes that every man should strive to be.

00:37:36.000 However, you guys have seen my house.

00:37:37.000 You've seen the cars I drive.

00:37:39.000 None of it's fake.

00:37:39.000 You've seen the women that I date.

00:37:41.000 I'm a very, very happy person.

00:37:43.000 And I believe if you're a young man, and you're 17, and you're playing video games, maybe masturbating too much on the internet, and you're not striving to live a life similar to mine, get a beautiful girlfriend, live in a nice house, drive a nice car, work a good job, make a good income, we are very, very happy people.

00:37:58.000 And we tell people, I think, what they need to hear, rather than reinforcing these negative stereotypes.

00:38:04.000 Oh, you're sad?

00:38:04.000 Well, you know, maybe you should see a psychiatrist.

00:38:06.000 Maybe you should pop some pills.

00:38:07.000 That's gonna fix your sadness.

00:38:09.000 Happiness is a super interesting, and shut me up if I'm talking too much, but happiness to me is a super interesting concept.

00:38:14.000 Because when people come to me and say, I'm not happy, I say, why should you be happy?

00:38:17.000 They're like, what do you mean?

00:38:18.000 I was like, who told you you should be happy all the time without working for it?

00:38:22.000 Happiness is at the top of a mountain somewhere.

00:38:24.000 You ain't been anywhere.

00:38:25.000 You haven't even climbed it.

00:38:25.000 You haven't even got out of your house.

00:38:27.000 Who tells you, only Western societies told you, you should be happy permanently without reason all the time.

00:38:33.000 That's not natural.

00:38:34.000 No one, I don't think you should be happy.

00:38:36.000 You're not happy?

00:38:36.000 Why?

00:38:37.000 Well, you're fat and you're lazy. 1.00

00:38:38.000 You don't do shit. 1.00

00:38:39.000 So, yeah. 0.99

00:38:40.000 You're not happy.

00:38:40.000 Unless you're Tristan who's, or like my wife, Shauna, they're blessed with some kind of happy gene.

00:38:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:38:46.000 Shauna's always happy.

00:38:47.000 Same with Tristan, that's true.

00:38:48.000 And then people go, Tristan's the same thing.

00:38:50.000 How do people go, are you a happy person? 0.97

00:38:51.000 I'm like, fuck no, I'm not happy, but I'm fulfilled. 1.00

00:38:54.000 Like, I am dumb. 1.00

00:38:55.000 I get out of bed like ready to kill it. 0.99

00:38:56.000 But nobody who knows would be like, oh yeah, Mikey's a real happy go, you know, go lucky guy.

00:39:01.000 But the flip side is it doesn't mean I'm depressed either.

00:39:03.000 Exactly.

00:39:04.000 So people think they're like chasing a dragon.

00:39:06.000 It's like, well, maybe you're not supposed to be happy.

00:39:09.000 Maybe you just want to do something that you think is like killing the game.

00:39:12.000 And that's what moves you.

00:39:14.000 And yeah.

00:39:14.000 And some people like myself and probably Michael agree with me here.

00:39:17.000 I can get happy, but I got to achieve something big and then it's temporary.

00:39:20.000 And then I got to do something else big.

00:39:21.000 It's a huge motivator for me.

00:39:23.000 Like it's the reason my life's amazing.

00:39:24.000 I'm just happy about everything.

00:39:25.000 He'll be like, guys, I just, I love that podcast.

00:39:29.000 That was so good.

00:39:30.000 Meanwhile, I'm like, that was a good I will slightly defend myself here.

00:39:35.000 Eight years ago, when I was driving a broken-ass car and sleeping on my friend's couch, I was not happy all the time, you know.

00:39:41.000 I've reached a point and I've put a life together for myself where basically nothing can upset me.

00:39:46.000 You know, some Twitter trolls come at me, that's the worst thing that could happen to me in a day.

00:39:49.000 And you know, I laugh, I smile, I go out with my girlfriend, you know.

00:39:52.000 Which girlfriend though?

00:39:54.000 Well, I think that's what's interesting about both of you is that you guys are really friendly, nice guys.

00:39:58.000 with you and I think well the Twitter trolls you know they could sit and type away. Nothing can faze me.

00:40:03.000 Well I think that's what's interesting about both of you is that you're you guys are really friendly nice guys and you get branded as being you know an asshole or something you're not. 0.99

00:40:12.000 I know. 0.96

00:40:12.000 Mike and I were going out to grab coffee in Romania, and we were trying to figure out how we were going to get there, and we were teasing that we were going to take Tristan's Lamborghini. 0.96

00:40:22.000 And Mike and I were like, oh, here's the key.

00:40:24.000 And the key was actually sitting on the counter.

00:40:25.000 And he thought we legitimately took the car.

00:40:28.000 And he wasn't like calling us and freaking out and stuff.

00:40:30.000 He was like, well, he My rule is this.

00:40:35.000 I don't let anyone drive my car who couldn't afford to buy me a new one.

00:40:39.000 So, Mr. Bolan, I would have written you a very big invoice with a few extra, you know, Romanian add-ons for fees and my trouble.

00:40:47.000 But just to go back to the point, and Mike said it perfectly just there, that's a huge point on happiness.

00:40:51.000 When people come to me and say, I'm not happy, I say, why should you be happy?

00:40:55.000 And we're all adults here.

00:40:57.000 This infantile mindset that we're all supposed to be like we were when we were three years old and, ooh, something shiny, laugh all the time, run around in circles, ooh, a cardboard box.

00:41:06.000 We're grown-ups and we have responsibilities and we have problems and we have pressure.

00:41:09.000 And you don't necessarily have to be happy to perform, especially if you're a man.

00:41:13.000 Like women have this, I guess to a degree, they're born lucky.

00:41:18.000 Women have this mindset where people expect women to be happy. 1.00

00:41:22.000 Women need to be happy. 1.00

00:41:22.000 But as a man, you have a burden of performance. 1.00

00:41:25.000 As a man, you shouldn't be waking up going, how do I get happy?

00:41:27.000 As a man, you wake up and say, okay, how do I perform?

00:41:30.000 You know?

00:41:30.000 And happiness will come at the end of the performance anyway.

00:41:33.000 But if your number one goal as a man, if your number one mission in life is just to be happy, that's going to be an extremely vapious existence and you're not going to be a man of substance.

00:41:42.000 The men of substance out there are not necessarily happy people.

00:41:45.000 Mike Tyson wasn't happy when he was smashing people's faces in.

00:41:48.000 That's not how you get there.

00:41:49.000 You don't get there being happy.

00:41:50.000 It's just a complete, the whole mindset, the whole idea that, oh, we all need to be happy all the time, is the reason you have men on the streets taking drugs, looking for a quick fix, because they don't want to do any real work to get any genuine fulfillment. 0.94

00:42:03.000 So they end up shooting drugs, like we were talking about earlier, running around being fools. 0.97

00:42:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:42:06.000 And that's what happened. 0.99

00:42:07.000 Terrified of pain.

00:42:10.000 There's never been, maybe this was always the case, but it just skipped a generation where The messaging should be like, oh, you're in pain?

00:42:18.000 That's good.

00:42:18.000 That's probably a sign you need to fix something.

00:42:20.000 Absolutely.

00:42:21.000 You don't run from the pain, like, well, you're in pain because you're broke.

00:42:23.000 Okay, that's just your body's telling you to go work.

00:42:26.000 Yeah.

00:42:26.000 Go work harder because you don't like being broke.

00:42:28.000 I know some people, my dad, for example, he's what we would all consider poor, happy as Tristan.

00:42:34.000 Yeah.

00:42:34.000 He sits outside with his guitar and plays Christian songs and watches the squirrels eat.

00:42:39.000 He thinks that he's the king of the mountain or whatever.

00:42:42.000 And that's great for him.

00:42:44.000 So he doesn't feel pain for not having money.

00:42:46.000 But if somebody feels this pain, I always say lean into the pain.

00:42:49.000 You know, it's one thing to have a physical injury like Tristan's shoulder or something where maybe it's a physiological thing.

00:42:55.000 But if you have an emotional pain, you should lean into that.

00:42:59.000 Like, why am I feeling this?

00:43:01.000 Well, you're feeling that because you feel that something is missing.

00:43:04.000 And then you have to go find that thing that's missing.

00:43:06.000 Depression is the ultimate motivation.

00:43:08.000 Oh, so you're depressed.

00:43:09.000 Okay, so you come along to me and you tell me you're depressed.

00:43:11.000 I expect to see a huge list of what you're achieving per day.

00:43:14.000 If you're unhappy with your life and you're depressed, I don't expect you to be popping pills and sitting, laying in bed.

00:43:18.000 I expect you to give me a huge list of everything you're achieving per day.

00:43:22.000 Depression's a fantastic motivation. 1.00

00:43:24.000 You know, but people are told the opposite.

00:43:26.000 No, you feel depressed.

00:43:27.000 That's wrong.

00:43:27.000 You should be happy anyway.

00:43:28.000 Take the pills.

00:43:29.000 Stay home.

00:43:29.000 Take some time off.

00:43:30.000 Complete garbage. 1.00

00:43:31.000 You're depressed? 1.00

00:43:31.000 Okay, get up. 1.00

00:43:32.000 Go for a run.

00:43:33.000 Lift more weights.

00:43:34.000 Make more money.

00:43:34.000 Get a second job.

00:43:36.000 Get more girls. 1.00

00:43:37.000 Like, you can outrun depression.

00:43:39.000 I said this to one guy.

00:43:39.000 That's a great quote right there.

00:43:41.000 You can outrun depression.

00:43:42.000 You ain't got time to be sad if you're getting where you need to get.

00:43:45.000 You ain't got time for that.

00:43:45.000 You can outrun it.

00:43:46.000 If you start working the jobs you need to do and you're training and you're seeing three or four different girls and you're trying to start your business on the side, you have no time to sit around moping.

00:43:53.000 So, outrun it!

00:43:55.000 And before you know it, you'll wake up one day and you'll look at your life and go, wow!

00:43:58.000 Well, you know, one thing that's interesting is many coaches, gurus, whatever you want to call them out there, they want you to come to where they are.

00:44:05.000 And I think what's really unique about Tristan and about Andrew, both of you, is that you accept people for where they are and maybe where their lifestyle wants to be.

00:44:16.000 You know, you mentioned this before.

00:44:18.000 I don't care if a guy's married and has kids and lives in a nice house, if that's where his happiness is, Now, I can help him elevate that by helping him make more money, getting him better physical fitness, maybe getting involved in a creative thing like chess or something, but you meet people where they are and then help them elevate that lifestyle.

00:44:37.000 You're not trying to say, hey, everyone should move to Bucharest and buy a Lamborghini and live in a big house.

00:44:44.000 My view on this is this.

00:44:46.000 I really believe that every single man, every single one alive, every single man wants to feel respected.

00:44:51.000 I believe if you give a man, if a man feels respected, he's happy.

00:44:54.000 And if a man doesn't feel respected either by his wife or society or whatever, he's miserable.

00:44:58.000 I believe that respect is that important for men.

00:45:00.000 This is why men would go to war and charge down a battlefield into near certain death and survive for a piece of ribbon.

00:45:07.000 Respect.

00:45:07.000 Men want to feel respected.

00:45:09.000 This is why men want fast cars, why they want hot girls, why they want muscles, it's why they want money. 0.98

00:45:13.000 It's all about feeling respected.

00:45:14.000 So my goal is just to give people the ability to live a life that lets them feel respected.

00:45:18.000 If you feel respected as a man, if people look at you and go, yeah, he's a man, you're a happy guy. 1.00

00:45:23.000 It's only when people look at you and go, he's a bitch. 1.00

00:45:29.000 That's also why I don't have a lot of patience for the people who obsess over anti the feminist stuff because sure there's a lot of issues and everything else but I think it's harder for a woman to be happier than it is for a man to be happy. 1.00

00:45:42.000 Because a man can just go out and get it. 1.00

00:45:44.000 And moreover, you can be 50 years old as a man and still have access to all the things you wanted, assuming you have enough money and everything else.

00:45:52.000 Whereas a woman's 50, if she hasn't had any kids, she's going to have a much tougher time than a 50 year old man.

00:45:59.000 Instagram is Instagram is the number one cause of female depression in the Western world.

00:46:02.000 I'm 100% sure of it.

00:46:03.000 Any girl who's 29, I have girl, I know girls who are 29, 30 years old and they're still beautiful, but they'll scroll up and down and they're nearly in tears.

00:46:09.000 They're not 22 anymore.

00:46:11.000 Like literally Instagram is that powerful for these women and they live on it, you know, and, and so women, they got a ticking time clock, but as a man, and this is another great thing about being a man, you haven't got to be handsome.

00:46:21.000 You ain't got to be pretty.

00:46:22.000 If you're a successful dude and your mind's right, you can be, you can be an ogre and you're still going to be out there doing whatever you want to do and live in your life, you know?

00:46:29.000 So many, many examples of that.

00:46:30.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:46:31.000 You know, you haven't, you haven't got the whole women have one thing and this is what the feminist imperative is trying to destroy. 1.00

00:46:37.000 But the reality and all of us know here is that the, a woman's importance based on, not primarily, but the one, the most important judging factors on a female is how she looks.

00:46:45.000 Whereas a man it's really, it's really not like that. 0.99

00:46:47.000 If you're a big, successful, important dude, no one's going to say, Oh, well, his hair's crap. 0.98

00:46:52.000 No one cares. 0.98

00:46:52.000 They do in fact on Twitter. 0.98

00:46:56.000 Well, on Twitter, but yeah, I've always thought it's one of the great unfairnesses of the world is that a 70 year old man, like there's pictures of George Soros like partying or whatever, eight years old, young, hot girls.

00:47:07.000 And like, if you're a very successful 80 year old woman, like you can't pay for sex, you know? 0.61

00:47:11.000 And if you think about it, it's kind of a sad thing, right?

00:47:14.000 But nobody, Joan Rivers, like, for example, said, you're always, you always stay horny, no matter how old you are, you can't find anybody to do it with.

00:47:21.000 Yeah.

00:47:22.000 Joan, if you're listening, thousand dollars an hour.

00:47:24.000 Well, she's gone now, isn't she?

00:47:26.000 She's gone now, so you're in charge more than that, bro.

00:47:30.000 But then men want to sit around and complain all day. 0.92

00:47:32.000 I mean, the whole red pill sphere.

00:47:34.000 That's why I used to avoid that whole subculture now, because that's all they talk about.

00:47:39.000 And then because I've been around on the internet for a number of years, I'm like, okay, so you're still talking about this five years later.

00:47:44.000 This is some crutch.

00:47:45.000 Well, this is the thing.

00:47:46.000 There's two things to it.

00:47:47.000 Life as a man, I believe, is like playing the video game on a harder difficulty.

00:47:52.000 Harder work for a greater reward.

00:47:54.000 So if you're prepared to do the work, life as a top-tier male is the best human experience.

00:47:58.000 Even if you're a top-tier female, even if you're like a supermodel and you've got 5 million followers on Instagram and you're on these boats or whatever, you're still getting dicked by one dude who's bored of you. 1.00

00:48:08.000 You know, like it was still your only true fulfillment in life is going to be through your kids.

00:48:12.000 And that's all you can do as a woman. 0.65

00:48:13.000 As a man, and you're living life as a top-tier man, you can do anything.

00:48:16.000 You can do anything that the humans have ever invented.

00:48:18.000 You can go to space.

00:48:19.000 You can buy a boat.

00:48:20.000 You can have 20 supermodel girlfriends. 0.99

00:48:21.000 You have kids all over the place. 0.86

00:48:22.000 You can do whatever you want.

00:48:23.000 So I believe life as a top-tier man is the best thing.

00:48:26.000 Right, I always tell people it's better to be an average woman than an average man. 0.98

00:48:29.000 Yes.

00:48:29.000 But if you're talking about being the very pinnacle, then there's just no comparison.

00:48:35.000 Absolutely.

00:48:37.000 And that's my point.

00:48:38.000 Isn't that a fantastic motivator for men? 0.99

00:48:40.000 You know you can have the best possible version of reality if you get up off your ass more often. 0.99

00:48:45.000 Oh yeah, but I'm tired. 0.99

00:48:47.000 Well then what do you want me to do?

00:48:49.000 And it's literally unbelievable, too.

00:48:50.000 Because I watch your guys' stuff and I love it because I've lived enough life, I'm like, I actually can honestly say I'm not jealous of that.

00:48:57.000 I'd rather sit home and read books or whatever.

00:48:59.000 Because you've lived it, that's why.

00:49:00.000 I'll be the same age.

00:49:02.000 Because you've done it, yeah, you don't have a midlife crisis.

00:49:04.000 It's just like, I'm glad they're having fun, but that looks like an awful lot of work.

00:49:08.000 Enjoy yourselves, but when you read these much older books, you realize that the way that you guys live would be unattainable in the history of the world to people like us born commoners.

00:49:19.000 You would have to have been born into a royal family or like a Roman emperor or something, so you can live like a Roman emperor, but then guys want to bitch all day on the internet about how tough it is, it's so unfair, feminists are beating me down. 1.00

00:49:32.000 Let's talk about that feminist thing, because you're completely right. 1.00

00:49:35.000 The Manosphere and the Red Pill and all this thing, and all they talk about is feminists and feminism's ruined women and women aren't submissive and women aren't feminine, blah blah. 0.96

00:49:41.000 If you're talking to a feminist, if you're on a date with a feminist, you're a low-tier man. 0.99

00:49:45.000 High-tier men are not dating these crazy, blue-haired, ugly, unattractive, disagreeable people. 0.97

00:49:52.000 Like, the fact you're even sitting there listening to her, the fact that this has even affected your life, I mean, yeah, is feminism a thing? 1.00

00:49:58.000 Yeah.

00:49:58.000 Are they messing with girls' brains?

00:49:59.000 Yeah, sure.

00:50:00.000 But if you're a real G, if you're a man, and your stuff's in order, and your life's in order, and you take a beautiful girl on a date, you're paying for the date, and she expects you to, and she wants to look pretty, and the gender roles are pretty much still basically there. 0.61

00:50:11.000 Like, the whole idea that it's impossible to find a girl now because of feminism, that just means you're too far down the pile, friend. 1.00

00:50:17.000 That's my view.

00:50:18.000 Both of you gentlemen have been in my house, sitting, sharing whiskeys, drinks with me, cigars, on multiple, multiple occasions.

00:50:24.000 Every time that's happened, there's been a beautiful girl there, pouring our drinks, cleaning up our cigar ash, emptying the ashtrays, asking us if we want anything, getting ice.

00:50:31.000 And these are girls who are 9 out of 10.

00:50:33.000 These are the level of women, and I'm not going to... I am bragging. 0.96

00:50:37.000 In fact, I am bragging.

00:50:38.000 These are the level of women that, you know, millionaires date. 0.99

00:50:40.000 I am a millionaire.

00:50:40.000 Sports stars date.

00:50:42.000 And they're just waiting on us hand and foot.

00:50:44.000 Why?

00:50:45.000 I'm not dating these people.

00:50:46.000 I'll tell you why.

00:50:47.000 Because a woman is a reflection of her man. 1.00

00:50:49.000 That's why.

00:50:50.000 Women are a reflection of your man. 1.00

00:50:51.000 If you're going through your life and every single woman you're with is ultra disagreeable and you decide the problems with women and the problems with feminism and you don't see the problems with you, Well, then you're never going to have a happy, successful relationship. 0.62

00:51:04.000 A woman is a reflection of her man, and that's the reality of the human condition. 1.00

00:51:07.000 It's always been that way.

00:51:08.000 If you see a woman who's looking after the kids, and she looks after the house, and she's a fantastic mother, that's a testament to the father, in my view.

00:51:15.000 I'm like, her man's a G, because she got her stuff right. 1.00

00:51:18.000 Because if her man was a fool, she would be acting a fool. 1.00

00:51:21.000 This is the reality. 1.00

00:51:21.000 So guys come to me and go, every girl cheats on me. 1.00

00:51:24.000 Every girl does this. 1.00

00:51:25.000 I hate girls. 1.00

00:51:26.000 I'm like, bro, you need to hate yourself. 0.99

00:51:28.000 Cause my girls ain't cheating on me. 1.00

00:51:30.000 So, you know, it's, you have to take responsibility.

00:51:32.000 Well, this goes back to some of the stuff that you guys teach and maybe, you know, to kind of end this segment out is tell, tell the, tell folks listening to this, how, how can they connect with you guys?

00:51:41.000 Yeah, so I mean, if this really resonates with you, and you feel like you are that guy that needs to elevate your lifestyle, how do they connect?

00:51:49.000 So I'll say so.

00:51:51.000 So Andrew, obviously, is going to say his stuff about his website in a moment, but I'm on Instagram.

00:51:57.000 Talisman Tate.

00:51:58.000 Talisman T-A-T-E.

00:52:00.000 You can see how I live there.

00:52:01.000 You can see the kind of stuff that I get up to.

00:52:03.000 It's very interesting.

00:52:05.000 On Twitter, my account, it tends to vanish and reappear.

00:52:08.000 At the moment, I'm at livestalisman.

00:52:10.000 The talisman was my fight name, hence the usage in both my social media plugs.

00:52:13.000 But Andrew does have a series of courses on the website where he teaches stuff, and he's going to tell you about that right now.

00:52:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:52:19.000 So the War Room, you can access it at www.CobraTate.com.

00:52:22.000 But I'm going to tell you now, don't join if you're not serious about improving your life.

00:52:26.000 Don't join.

00:52:27.000 It's not like a gym membership where you join to feel better and not turn up.

00:52:30.000 If you're going to do that, you're going to be very disappointed when I kick you out and keep your money.

00:52:33.000 Yeah.

00:52:33.000 Like this, this is the real deal.

00:52:34.000 So only join if you're genuinely serious.

00:52:36.000 I've seen him do that.

00:52:37.000 No refunds.

00:52:38.000 And you could have my address in Romania.

00:52:40.000 You want to come do something about it?

00:52:42.000 We can work it out.

00:52:43.000 We'll work it out.

00:52:44.000 We'll get old school.

00:52:45.000 It's like, you know, that's what this is all about.

00:52:47.000 It's about a group where you have to perform and you have to level up your life.

00:52:50.000 There's no other way to stay inside of the group.

00:52:52.000 So it's at www.CobraTech.com.

00:52:54.000 And I do want to emphasize this is not a single program.

00:52:58.000 This is a whole talent stack that you're teaching and pushing people.

00:53:01.000 And if you're not really in that mindset where you want to work on all those things, maybe you're just not ready for it yet.

00:53:08.000 Yeah, if you don't, here's the truth.

00:53:09.000 If you don't wake up, look in the mirror and think I'm the greatest man on earth, then you need to join the war room because that's my end goal of it.

00:53:15.000 Like I genuinely, like Mike said earlier about how the life we've constructed coming from commoners is just the first time in history can be done. 0.98

00:53:22.000 I wake up and I look at myself and go, you know what?

00:53:24.000 I've done the best I could have possibly done financially, physically.

00:53:29.000 Mentally, in every realm, I'm not the best, maybe, but I've done the best I believe I could have possibly done, and I'm super proud of myself.

00:53:35.000 And that's how you should feel as a man.

00:53:36.000 And that's a great way to have a fulfilled life.

00:53:39.000 Whatever that is for each person is different, but to wake up in the morning... And be proud of yourself!

00:53:44.000 Yes.

00:53:45.000 Exactly.

00:53:45.000 You can have a completely different life to mine, but you need to be ultra proud of yourself as a man.

00:53:50.000 And you should be proud of everything you've done and where you are.

00:53:52.000 And you should be filled with pride because I believe prideful men are the ones who build beautiful societies.

00:53:57.000 It's the prideful men that built the big, beautiful cathedrals.

00:54:00.000 It's the prideful men who made the laws and the constitution.

00:54:03.000 This is all based on pride.

00:54:05.000 You can't have a whole bunch of shallow, weak, empty men doing anything of merit on earth.

00:54:09.000 Ever.

00:54:09.000 It's never happened.

00:54:11.000 That's what these guys are doing to improve life for everybody here that lives on this planet.

00:54:17.000 You guys are doing your part and giving your all to improve life for everyone.

00:54:21.000 Well, I had a bunch of people teach me and now that I've kind of retired from fighting and I just, you know, this is all motivated by Twitter.

00:54:27.000 I kept getting so many people come at me and I was like, you know what?

00:54:29.000 All right, I'm going to teach all you guys, but you have to be ready to do it.

00:54:31.000 So we'll see.

00:54:32.000 A lot of people have turned up so far and if you're ready to join the program, I'll see you inside.

00:54:36.000 Be ready for the struggle, because like I said, happiness is at the top of the mountain, so... Alright, thanks a lot guys, it was a pleasure.

00:54:41.000 Yeah, thank you guys.

00:54:42.000 Great talking to you guys.

Tate Speech - July 25, 2022

Interview: Andrew Tate & Mike Cernovich

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