On today's show, I had a chance to catch up with my good friend and long time friend, Paul Joseph Watson. We talk about his life on the internet, what it's like being a podcaster, and why he doesn't want to go on air anymore. Also, we talk about why he thinks Alex Jones should be on InfoWars, and how he's trying to get on Alex's radio show. Also, he talks about his recent photo shoot with Alex Jones, and what he's been up to since then. If you haven't checked out his channel yet, you should definitely do so. It's worth the price of admission if you're a fan of Alex's work, because he's got a lot to say and a lot of good points to make. Thanks for listening and God bless! -T.I.P.S. -PJ & Paul and all the rest of the podcasters out there. Enjoy & spread the word to your friends and family about this podcast! -The Internet Pimp. Thank you for listening to the pod... & God bless you all! -Jon Soraya -Jonestown. Jonestown is a great place to be an internet Pimp and a good friend of mine. I hope you enjoy the podcaster. . And God bless ya! --T. Tom John Rocha -J.J. Watson -- Paul Joseph Wojtowicz . . John , Jake ...and much more! , and much more... - Joe :) Chris ! Jon ? Alex ( ) Ben Mike Matt Josh etc Jack Thanks, Michael Jay Tim Brian Thank You Steve Brad Adam J. ... James We are live finally Welcome to the Real Talk Podcast The Real Talk Please subscribe to the show Subscribe to the podcast Join us on Podchaser on the Podchill I'm going to be listening to this next episode on the pod, and we'll be on the next episode of the show next week on the new podchangers
00:00:14.000I haven't seen you in a long, long time.
00:00:16.000I wanted to have a get together with you again because I just came up on one year of this channel being a, excuse me real quickly here, this channel just came up on a one year anniversary and you were, I think my, well, you're my first interview, but you were like my second or third show when I just decided to do this, like on my own.
00:00:41.000And, um, and people kept asking me, why don't you get Tate on?
00:00:43.000Of course, then, you know, you, the, a recent picture, which we'll, we'll get into later, actually, everybody wanted to know what was going on.
00:00:50.000And, and, um, I, I, you don't, I don't know, do you do a lot of, um, A lot of interviews because I mean, I know that you do a lot of videos and I know that you keep yourself out there and you're, um, you're, you're highly visible.
00:01:04.000It's what, what I would call like certain like e-celebrity, I guess you're highly visible.
00:01:11.000Um, I think pretty much everybody who knows you, um, understands what you're about, but, um, Like, do you do other interviews with other people as well?
00:01:23.000I get a whole bunch of requests, but you know, I don't, I really don't do too many.
00:01:27.000I guess I'm, I'm kind of known now for what I am, the internet pimp, you know, and I get a lot of people who come along and want to ask me things, but there's very few I really speak to.
00:02:01.000Cause like every once in a while, like I, like I talk with you all the time on, on our Twitter DMS and stuff like that.
00:02:06.000And you know, you and I've had sort of a friendship for a while now.
00:02:10.000And so people will always come to me and ask what was, what was he thinking about that?
00:02:16.000And so every once in a while you, you have the, you have the capacity to surprise me because like there was, there was some pictures you were putting up not too long ago of you and Paul Joseph Watson.
00:02:27.000And I had no idea that you, like, knew this guy or you were in any way, like, in tight with this guy enough to go and get, like, you know, publicity shots with him.
00:02:50.000I've ended up in the right-wing kind of politics side of things, but to be perfectly honest with you, although my politics are my politics, I'm kind of trying to step away from it in some regard.
00:03:00.000And the reason for that is because I don't see Any fruitful end to just getting banned repeatedly.
00:03:07.000I mean, obviously, I know what I know, and I know what I believe, and I know this sounds like a pussy's way out, but if you speak the truth, you don't exist online for very long.
00:03:16.000Eight accounts in, it gets to a point where it's like, you know, Do I really need to sit and repeat this shit?
00:03:39.000I know all these guys and they really want me, I guess because I'm a smooth talker, they like the idea of me being a lot more politically motivated.
00:03:47.000In many ways, I've given up on politics.
00:03:52.000I don't think me running my mouth on Twitter is going to fix anything.
00:03:54.000It just feels, it feels to me kind of fruitless now.
00:03:57.000It's gotten to a point where I, I scroll up and down the timeline and I see people saying, Oh, you know, I'm going to fix the way, like, I'm going to fix this.
00:04:28.000I talked about that on Wednesday on my Wednesday show, and that was actually one of the first things I said is, and you probably know this better than most because you've been banned so many times, but there's a storm coming, man.
00:04:41.000I mean, especially with the 2020 election cycle, and you look at just how the mainstream media is cracking down on Messaging and narratives that they don't like.
00:04:55.000And that's why, that's why I put out that tweet.
00:04:56.000I said, you know what, uh, you know, me and me and AJ have our differences, but that was in no way anything that should have got him banned.
00:05:33.000Like it's a, it's a genetic thing or the, you know, the only, there's nothing that can, that can make them, uh, feel differently or whatever.
00:05:40.000And then AJ says something about like castration camp.
00:05:43.000And that was enough to get him banned.
00:05:45.000And that's my exact point with it all.
00:05:47.000So it's kind of like, you know, is it, I mean, people come to me all the time inside of my war room.
00:05:52.000I've got my private members community and people join and they say, I'm in the West and I'm worried about getting divorced, raped, and I'm worried about the female imperative.
00:06:08.000What do you mean, what else can you do?
00:06:10.000You're living in a country where if you get a woman pregnant by accident, your fucking life's over.
00:06:14.000You're living in a country where you can marry a woman and she can divorce you and completely destroy your life and turn your son into a fucking girl without your permission.
00:06:41.000But, you know, you've got to have the ability to pick your son up for his visit and get on a plane and get the fuck out of there because you're living in a world where you don't stand a chance.
00:06:50.000The system is so rigged against you to think you can even use the system to protect yourself in any regard is infantile.
00:06:57.000And when that's why people come to me and they go, what do we, what do I do?
00:07:09.000And it's, we, I mean, we've discussed all these themes before and we'll go into them again.
00:07:12.000I'm sure everything from marriage to having kids to divorce, everything, the whole system is rigged against you and they will destroy your life.
00:07:20.000They will destroy your life from head to toe.
00:07:22.000And they don't give a shit how you feel.
00:07:24.000I was going to say, that's a great, you know, tomorrow I'm doing a rule zero with the guys and that was actually going to be one of our topics, which is what's the alternative?
00:07:33.000Like how, like going forward, I've, I've been, I have been, um, very vocal about this new poly initiative, like this new messaging that like guys should just basically, uh, cuck themselves and be, um, be happy with that or accept that or, or find some kind of normalcy in, In allowing their woman to go off and have sex with other guys, right?
00:07:57.000Or to open their marriage or whatever.
00:08:19.000We want to know it's like, we want that variety, but we want to know what's ours is ours.
00:08:23.000Because when we're like that, because when we're wired like that, because we want to know that the child is ours, this is, you want to call it the, our primate brain, our lizard brain, whatever.
00:08:35.000And so, so we're listening to all of this shit right now about, um, About how we should just accept that, and how we should just go with that, and how we should live with that.
00:08:42.000And now, I think we're starting to see, and like you're saying, there's this resistance, there's this pushback against that narrative.
00:08:49.000And unfortunately, you know, a guy like Ajak has one bad tweet, or one, I don't even think he thought about it, to be honest with you.
00:08:57.000I think he just thought, oh, you know, he was just being witty or pithy, right?
00:09:01.000And what had happened, and let me, I should also put this into some context here, is because of what happened on Project Veritas, The guy, I forget the guy's name off the top of my head, but the guy had put out some video, some secret video that he had leaked to him from ABC about, or was this, I think she was a host or she was a news anchor.
00:09:21.000She was talking about how ABC tried to bury that story and they wanted it to go away.
00:09:26.000And it was at that point when that came out, there was a sweep.
00:09:33.000It was all of these major platforms decided that they were going to ban you if you had said anything, like if you were saying something about pedo, if you were saying something about Epstein, if you're saying something about whatever.
00:09:47.000That was, that was enough to get you banned.
00:09:49.000And that's what I'm, that's why I keep talking about this storm that's coming because that's just a taste of it.
00:09:55.000I think once we get into the election cycle proper and you see these big, um, these big platforms exercising their real control over, over, you know, your influence, they are the ultimate influencers right now.
00:10:08.000But it's like exactly what you're saying is that these are the guys that are promoting that are pushing that agenda out there.
00:12:40.000I know I'm not the best you can do, but I need sexual access.
00:12:42.000cute little word, right? The normalization of it is now that I've written two, actually three articles about this right now.
00:12:48.000Polly is now a mating strategy for beta males. It's for guys who say, you know what, I know I'm not the best you can do, but I need sexual access. So tell you what, ladies, I'll be your I'll be the good guy for you.
00:13:01.000You give me sexual access and you can go have sex with whoever you want and you have your options open to optimize.
00:13:06.000That's really what the underlying message of it is.
00:13:09.000You can go out and you can optimize your hypergamy with whoever you want.
00:13:13.000I'll be here babysitting and keeping the home fires going.
00:13:17.000And that's just all I have that sexual access.
00:13:20.000And I tell you what's interesting is there's a there's a parallel to this in primates, right?
00:13:24.000That's exactly what beta male primates do, like gorillas and bonobos.
00:13:36.000And when it when they go into estrus, when it's time for them to when they're in their proliferative phase, that's when they start pushing all these beta male guys off to the side and everything.
00:13:46.000And then they want to go and they seek out sex with the alpha male.
00:13:49.000And then when they're out of that or when they're in pregnancy or whatever, they give sexual access to beta males, but only if they have something, if they have resources, if they pick little nits off of them, if they watch the kids, right?
00:14:02.000If they will ensure the safety of their children, their offspring.
00:14:06.000So they give them sexual access when they are not in estrus, but they push them away when they are.
00:14:12.000And I think that people, okay, so that's a really loose way of describing what I see going on right now is we have a, at least in Western societies and in the country you're in right now, we have this, we have such a low estimation of masculinity.
00:14:29.000We have devalued conventional masculinity.
00:14:32.000We've devalued like even the idea, just me saying alpha or beta male, people just go, I can't believe he's saying that unironically.
00:14:48.000And so this, when I see Polly, and when I see the customizable relationships, it's not about You know, our promiscuous nature, you know, human beings are promiscuous, men are promiscuous, and women are promiscuous, too.
00:15:02.000But we do, we have different mating strategies, and we have different goals in mind for those mating strategies.
00:15:08.000But to say that, you know, that this is a healthy way to raise kids, this is how we're going to go, no, it's a mating strategy.
00:15:14.000It's a mating strategy for women, too, because they go, OK, Well, I got to settle for some guy, but wouldn't it be great if I could still have the options to go get with the hot alpha that I once got with before?
00:15:24.000I wish I could still do that and still have this guy here because women right now don't look for a guy who is the best of both of those.
00:15:32.000They're not looking for the guy who's the provider and the guy who's the alpha male.
00:15:36.000There's a guy for each one of those roles.
00:15:38.000If they find that guy, hey, great, but I don't even think today they're even really looking for that.
00:15:43.000So what's the, what's the, um, What's the solution? What's what's a workable arrangement for people to you know to come together in a relationship?
00:15:50.000Whatever have kids you know have a family and stuff that this poly thing looks like a solution The problem is is exactly what you just said a minute ago is that there's that jealousy thing and that's part of men's nature It's part of that paternity absolutely. It should be yeah I mean absolutely it should be and and this girl was trying to say to me I'm a hypocrite because I have lots of girlfriends and that should be the same the other way around because this is part of the gender imperative that men and females are the same.
00:16:15.000And I said, no, that's absolutely not true.
00:16:16.000Every king, every sultan, every knight of history had maidens and mistresses and a wife.
00:16:21.000This has been the normal, the normal, the absolutely normal path of human nature is alpha males have all the women, and like we just discussed with the primates, a man at the top has unlimited sexual choice, and the other men struggle for sexual choice.
00:16:35.000This is the natural reality of the human condition, and that's the way it's always going to fucking be.
00:16:40.000And the idea that women can do it too is completely inane because females get pregnant and the new age pill and all this shit that's come along new age that somehow can prevent a female from getting pregnant when she has sex doesn't change the biological realities of human nature.
00:16:56.000I've had women say to me, well, I know because of the kind of guy you are, I know you'll never be loyal.
00:17:01.000They've literally said to me, I know you're too big of a fucking G to sit around here and watch TV with me all night.
00:17:07.000They've said it and they still stay with me and they'll say, I know what you're doing, but I just don't want to hear about it because you're not that stupid.
00:17:47.000And so whether that's the patriarchs of the Old Testament or it's like Gilgamesh or it's what, you know, all these people, all these, you know, great, what we would consider like alpha males of history have all done the same things.
00:18:00.000Even in our hunter-gatherer tribes, even hunter-gatherer tribes that still exist today, the chief always cordons off all the women for himself.
00:18:10.000And that's why when you look at, let's say, dynastic China right now, there was the Forbidden City, and it was guarded by eunuchs.
00:18:17.000Well, we've got to cut off those guards' dicks because we don't want them breeding with the harem in there.
00:18:22.000So that is the ultimate goal for guys, is unlimited access to unlimited sexuality, but also to know that the reproductive efforts that he's putting into that are his.
00:18:34.000That he's not taking care of somebody else, like he's not taking somebody's genetics and pushing them on into the next generation.
00:19:26.000And I'm like, well, you know, you can call me whatever you want, but I understand that I'm proud of who I am and I'm proud that I'm Andrew Tate and I want my genetics to be passed on.
00:19:33.000I want to give them all my energy and time.
00:19:35.000I don't want to pass my energy and time to other genetics.
00:19:59.000You know, like, so I'm not saying you should go that far, but I'm certainly not sitting there fucking changing diapers or something like that.
00:20:04.000I'll tell you another thing, that's another part of this book is infanticide is across the animal kingdom, right?
00:20:11.000If a new alpha comes into a troop or into a pride of lions like you're talking about, yeah.
00:20:18.000The new alpha male will go and kill the offspring of his rival alpha males, right?
00:20:23.000Human beings have actually something pretty close to that.
00:20:26.000Although we're not killing them, we express this and manifest this in other ways.
00:20:30.000But I'll tell you what will really bake your brain here is that the act of doing so, killing the offspring, the prior offspring, sends the females into estrus.
00:20:41.000They want to have sex right after that with the guy who, with the, with the murderer, the murderer.
00:20:48.000And I, you know, it's, I, people keep hitting me up about, um, what is it?
00:22:04.000You know, and that's the bottom line of masculinity.
00:22:07.000And all these imperatives that are being forced by the West are basically, I mean, we could go into this forever, but it's an attempt to feminize men because you have to feminize men for them to accept the society they now live under in the West.
00:22:19.000If the men of Russia were forced to live under the society that the men live under here in the West, there'd be fucking riots.
00:22:25.000You think a Russian man's gonna sit there and pay alimony to his ex-wife so she can fucking have enough gas money to drive over and suck a new dick?
00:22:32.000You think he's gonna sit there and go, I better pay?
00:22:39.000Viv says to me all the time, or any of the chicks, they say to me all the time, I don't know what would happen if we split up, but I know for sure you wouldn't be giving me money to fuck.
00:22:47.000And I was like, yeah, like, I don't know what planet these chicks are on.
00:23:30.000That's where I was going to go next with that because you're just saying, you know, you don't want to invest in children that are not your own.
00:23:37.000And I think right now in Western culture, A part also of this, you know, it's really a war on paternity.
00:23:44.000It's really this social engineering program to teach men to give up that jealousy.
00:23:52.000In fact, we characterize that jealousy as toxic masculinity.
00:23:56.000Guys are going to feel that, and they're not going to know why they feel that, but it's a genetic evolved imperative for them to want to make art, for them to want to be on top of Why?
00:24:07.000you know, their own their own efforts and their own their own genetic legacy being pushed forward. They can't describe it. They can't put it into words. They can't articulate it, but that's what they feel. And so when we get guys are saying like, oh, you know, Polly's not for everybody. You know, we have to condition ourselves to to, you know, repress that jealousy instinct. And it's like, well, that's there for a reason.
00:24:29.000Yeah. Why? It's like it's like a hundred thousand years of evolution that puts that in there.
00:24:34.000Why would a man protect a woman if he's not jealous?
00:25:14.000It's part of your personality, that's why.
00:25:20.000For these guys, it's not part of their personality.
00:25:21.000One of the things I've always said, and I know you're reading my book right now, but one thing I say in that book is that you need to internalize this.
00:25:29.000It needs to be part of your personality.
00:25:31.000And I think for you, because of the way you were raised, I would say it's probably because your father raised you to be the way you are, from what I know of you.
00:25:57.000You're like, you have to act a certain way when a woman disrespects you.
00:26:00.000If a woman disrespects me, I haven't got to act shit because I'm pissed off for real.
00:26:03.000I'll never talk to her again for real like there's no act like when you talk to me like I'm a dickhead fine I'll never reply to you again and then she'll then she'll lose her mind because she's never had a guy ignore her.
00:27:24.000And you comply to my view of the world and you get replaced.
00:27:26.000I think that that throws off a lot of guys because a lot of guys, particularly in the, I would say in the last like three to four generations, because at least in Western culture, they have been feminized and have been brought up in a feminine primary social order that convinces them that they have to be in touch with their feminine side.
00:27:45.000They have, like, it's, it's bad for you to, to be masculine.
00:27:48.000It's like, it's what I call gender loathing.
00:27:51.000So you've got these guys, and people wonder why there's this generation of Lost Boys that are coming to me, to you, to Jordan Peterson, to anybody else.
00:27:59.000Why is there such a mass of these guys, and why isn't it obvious?
00:28:04.000For you, because of the way you were raised, because of who you are, you've already internalized this stuff.
00:28:10.000One of the things I run into when I'm talking with guys, Like if I'm interacting with them, like say in my comments on my blog or something, guys will say, how was this in question?
00:28:22.000How are these guys don't even see this?
00:28:25.000They'll say, don't these guys know that they're being pussies?
00:28:28.000Don't they know that they're, and it's like, no, they really don't because they've never had that education and it's never become part of who they are.
00:28:36.000And so like when people tell me, like they'll say, well, I really pity Rolo because you know, he's married and he has to game his wife all the time.
00:28:42.000And it's like, No, I don't game my wife.
00:29:33.000But if you don't do the queen sacrifice, you're going to sit there and it's going to be ground down and slowly pressured down and lose the game.
00:29:39.000You're going to lose the game and time's running out.
00:29:41.000So you better do something drastic now.
00:29:42.000She's talking to you like a dickhead, walk out the fucking door.
00:29:45.000Maybe you can shock her into compliance.
00:29:47.000But if you don't shock her into compliance, then it was always over.
00:29:50.000If you leaving is not enough to make her talk to you nicely, how long is she going to sit there until she sucks a new dick?
00:29:57.000Are those few weeks really that much more important?
00:29:59.000Like, but people just ain't got the balls.
00:30:01.000They're not prepared to take the risk.
00:30:03.000I've lost loads of girls doing that shit.
00:30:05.000But the ones who stick around are absolutely and utterly compliant.
00:30:44.000Also having the game and being able to have access to lots of females is ultra important.
00:30:49.000Even if you have the goal of being the trad con, one man, one woman, even if that's your goal, you still need to have access to a whole bunch of chicks or you're not going to have a good selection.
00:31:07.000You're going to double down on the first chick you bang.
00:31:10.000Yeah, I get that a lot too, is when people, one of the things that especially now I see this, and I saw this about like 2015 as well, but it's almost like the atmosphere goes in cycles right now.
00:31:26.000And so right now, right before an election cycle, the idea of like, Being traditional or being, you know, I want to be a monogamous guy.
00:31:36.000I want to have, you know, I just want to have one wife and have a dog in the yard and three kids and a wife that really loves me and wants to have sex with me and that's it.
00:31:46.000Like, what gets me, and I was, I wanted, I've got a list of questions here, but what gets me about What is that you do like I know what you do for a living But I also know that you have like you're at the war room right now, right?
00:31:57.000You're talking to guys who want to live better lives They want to do something more with their lives and just whatever it is that they're doing.
00:32:05.000Um, I think it's fascinating to me that For guys who will come to me and they'll say well Rollo.
00:32:12.000He just talks about hypergamy He just talks about like spinning plates or any of that kind of stuff.
00:32:18.000What I wrote in my first book about spinning plates is you need to be non-exclusive so that you can get experience with women.
00:32:24.000So maybe like I was like you were just saying a minute ago, as you go through, you know, you get a notch count up to, you know, 20 or 30, at least then you can understand the nature of women and you understand how it works.
00:32:39.000In my PhD course on Curb Your Tate.com, one of the elements, one of the lessons in the PhD course is how to tell if she's a good girl or not.
00:32:45.000So I have a very specific test you can run on the female you're seeing, and I won't give it away because people need to buy it, but there's a very specific test you can run on a female to see if she's a quality female, a quality candidate to make into a girlfriend or not.
00:33:18.000And that's why if you're only going to have one girl and you're going to double down on it, and you haven't even tested her, you could have a bad apple to begin with.
00:33:25.000And why put yourself through all that stress?
00:33:27.000Why put yourself through all that problems when you can just find a better candidate to begin with?
00:33:32.000And that's the ruthlessness of the game.
00:33:33.000Females are absolutely ruthless in their mating strategies.
00:33:37.000So why are you not going to be ruthless to make sure you get the best for you?
00:33:39.000And if that means you have to sleep with a whole bunch of girls to find one who's compliant and submissive, then do so.
00:35:32.000She's always writing this on Instagram, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:35:35.000And I sat there and I said, the only reason you talk about her all the time and watch all her stories and you're obsessed with her is because you want to fuck her.
00:37:04.000That's great that you say that, because I don't think a lot of women, particularly in Western culture, have that experience.
00:37:12.000Where they're dealing with a guy, like in some way, they've got to be invested in that guy because you can be adamant.
00:37:19.000And if that woman is not in any way, if she hasn't, if she's not beholden to you, if she's not into you or whatever, it doesn't matter.
00:37:25.000You just sound like a, you know, a guy who's just sort of like petulant.
00:37:29.000You're like, but if she is into you, if she has an, a, an emotional or physical investment into you, very few women have that experience of the guy that says, look, here's how it is.
00:37:42.000This is, you know, this is how it's going to work out and then have a guy that actually means that and actually backs that up.
00:37:47.000So like when I'm talking to guys in there, they'll, they'll hit me up and they'll say, well, you know, I, I'll be listening to like Rich Cooper's channel and it's like always the same.
00:37:55.000He does this one show on Mondays called Before the Train Wreck and it's always the same phone call.
00:38:24.000So when you put that down and they want and that's the direction they want to be directed They want command presence.
00:38:30.000That's exactly what you're just talking about is command presence police officers use this all the time It's like they are the one like they you know being a police officer I think we're sort of training this out of society right now, but I think up until recently there is a It's a concept that's used in law enforcement called command presence.
00:38:47.000And so if you are a police officer and they see you in the uniform, there's this precise, it's in the military as well.
00:38:55.000There is an implied authority that goes with that position that people automatically acknowledge.
00:39:01.000And that presence needs to be something that you live because the moment you let that down, the moment you stop that, the moment you stop telling a woman no, Just even something as simple like what you're saying right there is like, yeah, I get it.
00:39:13.000You know, you can hypnotize them, whatever, as long as you're forceful about it.
00:39:16.000But no, women simply today don't get told no by men who actually mean no.
00:39:54.000And we're watching some show and there's some bitch went on some hen do before she got married running around with her girls So I ever got married which probably won't happen But if I ever got married if my girl thinks she's gonna run off with a bunch of hoes To another country to be a hoe for a night like no way Stick what do you mean? No way?
00:40:15.000You know, like it's almost like, and another thing is this leads me on to something else I put on Twitter on one of my band accounts that went viral and everyone lost their minds.
00:40:22.000I said, if you're a woman has a celebrity crush, she doesn't respect you.
00:41:22.000Yeah, it's funny you should say that because I was talking to you.
00:41:28.000It was similar to what you were saying about how, you know, if you're in a solid, stable, healthy relationship where there's respect for you, that's not even going to be an issue.
00:41:39.000So when guys come up to me and they say like, this is a common question I'll get from guys.
00:41:43.000My girlfriend wants to go on a girls night out or she wants to go with her girlfriends off to Las Vegas.
00:41:49.000For the weekend with her girlfriend, you know, a girl's getaway or some shit like that.
00:41:53.000And I go, so the whole, the conflict, like the inner conflict that these guys have is that they don't know if they should say yes or they should say no.
00:42:02.000Or would it be more alpha to say yes or would it be more alpha to say no?
00:42:05.000And I said, that's not the question you need to be asking yourself.
00:42:08.000Why is she asking this in the first place?
00:42:12.000Why does she even think that this is a good idea to go off and do that?
00:42:15.000And now here's what happens is when you say stuff like that and when you tweet stuff out, this is the most common response.
00:42:21.000Women will say, well, imagine being you so insecure in your masculinity that that you wouldn't let your girl go off on a girl's night out or you wouldn't let her, you know, you wouldn't let her go and indulge in a fantasy of a celebrity that she'll never get with, you know.
00:42:36.000But you're so insecure in your masculinity that And it's always this, you always notice that it's not anything else.
00:42:43.000It's not, you're, you're insecure about this or this or this.
00:42:45.000It's always, you're insecure in your masculinity because that's always the attack angle.
00:42:49.000It's always to attack men's sexuality.
00:42:52.000That's why a real man lets his woman fuck everyone, doesn't he?
00:43:06.000He's the guy that is, and I like Jeff, I really wish I had a better relationship with him, but it's like, I think I call him to the carpet and I ask him the tough questions that he doesn't really want to answer.
00:43:17.000But he's very, he's a very vocal opponent, or vocal proponent, I should say.
00:43:22.000of the poly lifestyle because he's in a poly relationship with his, I guess his wife, Dr. Diana Flashman.
00:43:30.000And so they're very open about this and they're trying to popularize this and they're trying to make it something that's a little bit more normalized.
00:43:35.000And I was thinking to myself, how do you get past that jealousy part?
00:43:39.000First of all, why does your woman want to do that in the first place?
00:43:42.000And then second of all, how do you get past this evolved jealousy side?
00:43:45.000And he says, well, you have to find a way to eroticize it.
00:43:49.000You have to find some way to get off on the fact that you're off of on the jealousy, To feel jealousy is some way to, uh, to, to repress that, that bad, bad gel.
00:44:04.000Well, we, we, we get turned on by it and, and you know, we see cuckold porn or whatever else that's going on.
00:44:10.000But what I think is interesting is that the, the fact that we are finding ways to condition ourselves to fit into this This thought paradigm, this way of thinking, as opposed to going with what our gut instinct is, which is jealousy, which is at least a degree of possessiveness, of mate guarding, to say, you know, I'm interested, like you're saying, I'm interested in my own paternity.
00:44:38.000I don't want to deal with another man's progeny.
00:44:42.000I'm only interested in what I want to do here, and if that's what you expect from me, then you need to go find some other guy that's going to do that.
00:44:49.000Women right now, what they'll say is, if I bring that up, if I say, I would not marry, I would not date, I would not get involved with a single mother.
00:45:00.000Well, because I am essentially signing up for my own cuckoldry.
00:45:04.000And if you view cuckoldry as taking the parental investment responsibilities of another man's child on yourself, whether it's deceptive or whether it's right up front and we normalize it and saying, oh, these guys, they're not the stepfathers, they're the father that stepped up.
00:45:21.000We can normalize it in society and we can find ways to repress those natural instincts.
00:45:28.000Like the natural instinct is my own paternity, right?
00:45:32.000And so it's, it's odd to you because you've internalized this, but there's guys who will go to great lengths to convince themselves that they are more masculine or that they're better men because they're cuckolding themselves because they'll, I'm, I'm more secure in my masculinity because I let another dude rail my wife.
00:46:34.000It's much more difficult to run game and to get with the 19 year old beauty queen, like you're saying.
00:46:39.000Than it is to get with a woman who is predisposed to finding a new father, trying to find some way to settle down, right?
00:46:46.000You might be having sex with that person, but again, and then what else do you run into?
00:46:50.000You also run into the fact that that kid is always going to supersede you no matter what.
00:46:54.000Even if you're just having sex with that single mother and you're like, oh, we're just having no strings attached sex, that kid still comes before you.
00:47:00.000Yeah, and maybe that's maybe that's the way it should be.
00:47:02.000But here's the thing is you are never going to you know, we're gonna have anything in the long term.
00:47:06.000So if you want to make her a plate and then she's gone.
00:47:18.000Why is my girlfriend asking me to go on a girl's night out?
00:47:21.000Why is she asking me for my girls want to do my girls are completely uninterested in any of the shit that my money can buy all my girls want to do.
00:47:29.000Is, is try and get me to stay at home and watch bullshit TV next to them.
00:47:33.000And all they say, can't we just stay home today?
00:47:35.000Can't they don't want to go Vegas with the girls.
00:47:40.000They don't want to fucking go anywhere expensive.
00:47:42.000People go, your girls are with you for money.
00:47:43.000I'm like, my girls are the cheapest thing I can possibly do.
00:47:45.000I turn off, I got home cooked meal and they just want to sit next to me while I ignore them and sit on my phone and tweet and bang them at the end of it all.
00:47:52.000That's all a woman, when she's truly in love with a man, wants to do.
00:48:13.000I say, well, you tell her girls with boyfriends don't go to Vegas.
00:48:16.000So you either go to Vegas single or you stay here.
00:48:19.000And if she decides to go anyway, to call your bluff, you have to be man enough to make sure you fucking stick to your guns and not be a little pussy.
00:48:26.000Because if you allow her to go and you stay with her, you've just told her she can do whatever the fuck she wants and she's going to have you anyway, which includes sucking dick.
00:48:34.000And then she's going to end up cheating on you.
00:48:35.000And then you're going to email me again.
00:50:20.000Is is isn't true people guys, especially beta guys.
00:50:23.000I just want to meet a nice single girl There is no girl out there who's attractive who ain't talking to some dude who's banging her ex Or flirting with a new guy or already on dates girls are never single because females love attention and they have unlimited options This is the difference between men and women.
00:50:38.000This is why men hate the breakup more than the woman, because they know the woman can have a new boyfriend tomorrow.
00:50:42.000Your dumb ass needs to take six months to find something.
00:51:52.000There has to be something about them that you've got to get in their mind.
00:51:57.000What I get is like I get guys who will say the beta mindset is this is it's they want to pretty much every guy wants to do this but the beta mindset is I you need to stand out amongst the crowd right what makes you need what makes you
00:52:12.000More attractive than another guy like you were just saying that she's she's got access to the woman that you want has access to lots of other guys what makes you so special the beta mindset is I'm not going to be like other guys and his concept is like all these other guys are just these assholes who don't care about them and don't like hold their hands and don't watch.
00:52:33.000know, uh, aren't I shouldered a cry on and they go that kind of soft feminine, like the more alike I am with a woman, then the more she's going to like me.
00:52:41.000And so that's, and I'm a grounded, I think a lot of this is conditioned into these guys through like, you know, year, like a lifetime really of believing that woman, what women want you to be a friend, they want you to be comfortable.
00:52:55.000They want you to be nice. They want you to be sensitive.
00:52:57.000Like, yeah, I don't, I don't believe in that. I don't believe in that.
00:53:00.000Girls I'm sleeping with girls. I'm trying to sleep with and girls.
00:53:02.000I don't talk to boy women have boyfriends and girlfriends.
00:53:06.000And if you're not fucking her, you are her girlfriend. And people will say, well, that sounds pretty harsh role. And I'm like, well, think about it this way is like women, when they relate to their own friends, to their girlfriends, how do they relate?
00:53:17.000Well, how, you know, they, they, They're catty with each other, they relate as women relate with other women, right?
00:53:25.000If you come in like that and you pretend to be a woman, like if you identify with a feminine and you think that that's going to get you in women's good graces, all she's going to do is respond to you as if you are another woman.
00:53:38.000Her hindbrain sees how you're relating to her.
00:53:41.000And then it responds to you as if you are one of her girlfriends.
00:53:46.000And you're giving away your only weapon.
00:54:42.000This is the world we live in, and this is why the bad guy's attention's worth something, because if he texts her once a week, because his attention's hard to get hold of, and you have to weaponize your attention.
00:54:51.000She fucks up, you don't give her any attention.
00:54:54.000She doesn't fuck up, you give her a lot.
00:55:30.000And the whole attention with most guys, I think one of the biggest mistakes, and this is something else I cover in the War Room and the PhD course.
00:55:36.000Well, the biggest mistakes people make is they have their attention thing the wrong way around.
00:55:39.000So because men are busy, we're busy working, we're busy getting stuff done.
00:57:11.000My attention is so valuable, they'll pay for it.
00:57:14.000And that's just because of where I position myself and where I position my attention, the fact that I've never given it away for free ever.
00:57:20.000And it's a fine line because guys at the beginning are sitting there going, Well, I had to give her attention to get her to sleep with me in the first place.
00:57:49.000Again, it's like these, it's, it's power dynamics is what it is, but like they, You know, when guys will listen to this right now, one of the things that I hear, particularly in certain sides of the manosphere right now, is that it's not worth it.
00:58:05.000It's not worth it to go through all this trouble.
00:58:07.000It's not worth it to be a G. It's not worth it.
00:58:11.000Particularly the MGTOW mindset is they want to just give up on it.
00:58:15.000They say, you know what, the juice is not worth the squeeze.
00:58:18.000And just exactly what you just said there, and I'm playing devil's advocate here because you probably know how I feel about this, but I think the misconception that they have is that hypergamy is a straight jacket.
00:58:30.000Like, if she's always got all these guys on speed dial, it's too exhausting to stay on top of this.
00:58:38.000It's too exhausting to make myself the kind of guy that she's going to be a ride-or-die girl for.
00:58:44.000And as soon as a guy like Tate walks in the door, Then she's going to go out with that guy and fuck him.
00:58:49.000And then all the effort and all the energy that I put into all this is all gone.
00:58:56.000And you were just saying a moment ago, when you get into these relationships, when you get into a marriage right now, particularly in Western society, there's a lot of investment on a guy's part.
00:59:08.000Effort, getting taken to the cleaners and a divorce, those kinds of stuff.
00:59:12.000I think they get into these, maybe not MGTOWs, but I think that a lot of married, like, kind of blue pill guys get into these situations where they have to make up their own narrative for themselves to believe in, right?
00:59:25.000So it's like, well, I have to do that because I'm a better man because I do that.
00:59:29.000I'm a better man than Tate because I'm the guy that, you know, takes care of my family and I listen to her and I talk with her and I'm, you know, they put in all this effort But they don't understand that that effort just flies out the window because a guy like Tate walks in the door.
00:59:49.000I'm sure you're probably familiar with what's going on with MGTOWS right now, but what do you have to say?
00:59:54.000I know what you're going to say here, but what do you have to say with respect to guys who think that they should just exit the game and be done with this whole thing?
01:00:03.000They want to go their own way for whatever that means to those guys.
01:00:08.000Well, it's a defeatist attitude, which is the first thing.
01:00:11.000It's the most feminine beta thing you can have in anything.
01:01:17.000But for most dudes, because they haven't got the kind of sexual access I have, you're gonna have to be prepared to lose the girl because she wants to go Vegas.
01:01:24.000You're gonna have to be prepared to sit there and miss her and not message her.
01:02:57.000So all the mid-toe guys, You're quitting the game without even trying.
01:03:01.000If you were to just, if you're really a man going his own way, and you're really focusing on yourself, and you're really, you know, putting yourself first and upgrading your value as a man, you can, if you're doing that, then you should be fine with females.
01:03:16.000Treat her with respect, but don't take any disrespect.
01:03:19.000One of the biggest things I want to actually say now, because I don't want people to think, I know the way I come across is hyper aggressive.
01:03:24.000People think you have to be mean to girls.
01:04:07.000These dudes are too afraid of the heartbreak and they can't take it.
01:04:11.000I think a lot of what I'm seeing right now in the MGTOW community is it's mirroring a lot of Red Pill stuff.
01:04:18.000Honestly, Red Pill came a long time before MGTOW, and a lot of the stuff that they are throwing out there right now is really just straight-up Red Pill stuff.
01:04:26.000Everything we've been talking about up to this point has been just straight-up Red Pill stuff.
01:04:30.000You can find it in my book, you can find it in other people's work, you can find it everywhere in the Manosphere.
01:04:34.000But what I see right now is there's this I think there's the idea I think if you if you unplug yourself from all of this if you if you become red pillow where you can't help but go your own way you can't help but live your life in a different way because.
01:04:53.000If you listen to this video and you listen to me and Tate talking right now, and this is something that's raising your awareness of the nature of women or the nature of intersexual dynamics right now, you won't be able to stop this video and go out the door and live exactly the same way that you did before.
01:05:12.000And I, you know, when I talk about mental point of origin, it's exactly what you're talking right there is, is you've got to have, you have to come first.
01:05:22.000And guys will say, well, you know, she'll just leave me or, you know, if I, if I put my foot down or whatever, most guys are afraid to even experiment with that.
01:05:29.000They won't do it because they think that they have too much to lose because of exactly what you said is they have that scarcity mentality.
01:05:35.000They think that they'll never get a girl as good as this woman.
01:05:41.000And it's like, yeah, but you're going to be living out the life of this character that you think that she wants rather than who she, well, who she really wants, but then also not even really being yourself.
01:05:53.000You're living this character, this life of a guy who is what he thinks that she thinks is the perfect dude and perfect is boring man perfect is always boring why do women like soap operas because that indignation man It's indignation.
01:06:47.000In the first book, there's a chapter in there called indignation and I get into that as well.
01:06:51.000I actually make the case that there is like the chemical cocktail that women feel when they feel indignation is something that they actually need to sort of feel alive.
01:07:01.000So that's why if you're not the person that's creating that indignation for them, they're going to go find it somewhere else.
01:07:07.000If that's like on daytime talk shows or that's a soap opera or that's the romance novel or whatever, they're going to go for it.
01:08:05.000Because she's leaning into you and I know she's split up with her now ex-husband, I guess.
01:08:10.000Yeah, there's not too much of a story to be honest with you.
01:08:12.000her. She's like, she looks like she's into it. And you want to talk about like all the dynamics that you were just telling me right now for over the last hour, I can see a lot of that sort of being manifested in this picture right now. So, so what's the story here? Yeah. Uh, there's not too much of a story to be honest with you. I mean, she, she was, uh, in Europe, uh, we were talking I said, Romania is an awesome country.
01:09:24.000Girls like I've had Bollywood stars fly out to see me.
01:09:28.000I've done I've done loads of things to me like, you know, I was interested in her because of who she is as a person, not necessarily because of who her father wasn't.
01:09:36.000I think it's interesting that she took it upon herself to come out and see you like to I've said and this is in the first book as well as when I'm talking about genuine desire and this is what you got into just a little while ago is like when a woman has genuine desire for you.
01:09:53.000She won't want to go out on girls nights out.
01:09:56.000That won't ever enter into her thought process if you are the person who is her drug dealer, right?
01:10:01.000You're the one who's supplying her with the indignation.
01:10:13.000And when that answer, when that question is like answered, like firmly validated, affirmed, answered, that's when women will do shit like this. I honestly, I think she probably, why, you know, why do you think she decided to just get on a plane and come out and see you? I mean, was it because you were because you are who you are? Or maybe she was looking for that rather than what she was getting before? Yeah. I don't know.
01:11:05.000Um, so we're chilling in India, whatever happens happens.
01:11:08.000And after our night together, she messages me, you know what?
01:11:11.000I don't, I think you're a playboy and I don't think you're the man for me.
01:11:15.000And I sat there and I burst out laughing to the phone and Tristan goes, what's funny.
01:11:19.000I said, I just slept with Karishma, and this must be her standard tactic with Indian guys, because they're so beta, that she sleeps with them.
01:12:06.000And it's, I'm going to have to try and find the message and put them on Twitter.
01:12:08.000But the next three days I was running around Mumbai with Tristan, putting on my Instagram story, just, you know, having fun without her.
01:12:13.000And when she sent me that message and I completely ignored her and didn't play her game, she had a full on mental breakdown. It went from angry to I'm sorry for getting angry, to you know what, fuck you, angry again. It was like a full on cycle. She couldn't handle it because like now I've dicked her and now I'm not talking to her. And that must have never happened to her before in her life.
01:14:35.000I agree with the red pill speech about the more mates she has, the less likely she is to bond.
01:14:40.000And the reason for that is if it's in her mind to jump on a new dick when things get tough, things will inevitably get tough and she will inevitably think about a new dick.
01:14:49.000If she's had less dicks, she's less likely to consider that as an option.
01:14:53.000So she's more likely to work hard towards fixing a problem.
01:14:58.000But the basic strategy and the basic way to train a girl to be loyal in stages It's very simple.
01:15:04.000It's all the things we've been talking about thus far.
01:15:06.000It's not tolerating bullshit, giving her attention when she behaves, and removing all attention when she doesn't behave, and not allowing her to get any kind of lifestyle or any kind of ideas which are going to be detrimental to her ability to be loyal to you.
01:15:19.000If you start a relationship and allow her to go out every night with her girls, she's never going to want that taken away from her.
01:15:24.000And that means that she's only one line of coke and too many drinks away from running into me, and it's game over.
01:15:29.000So you need to construct a lifestyle on top of all this.
01:16:09.000That's just a recipe for disaster sooner or later.
01:16:12.000So you want a girl to be loyal, you also need to make sure your girl's living a loyal lifestyle to the point where she shouldn't really be interacting with dudes, hardly at all.
01:16:38.000If you get with a girl and you sleep with her and she has a bunch of male friends, you can just say, look, I like you, but I'm not prepared to get in a relationship with a girl who hangs around with guys all the time.
01:16:46.000Yeah, or has more... Yeah, that's fine.
01:16:48.000Has more guy friends than girl friends.
01:17:06.000If you write that down, choose me or the friends, you either have a proper relationship with a man who cares about you and you don't have male friends, or you can hang out with a bunch of dudes and we ain't talking anymore.
01:17:14.000If she chooses to hang around with a bunch of dudes, are you telling me she wasn't going to eventually cheat on you anyway?
01:17:35.000I was just going to just a couple of things in here.
01:17:37.000Like, I completely understand what you're talking about with respect to a woman having more, a woman who has more access or has more sexual partners in her past has a lower, higher incidence of divorce, but also a lower incidence of being able to form healthy relationships or healthy attachments to a man in the future.
01:17:59.000This is like, this is research, you know, studied stuff, right?
01:18:03.000And so, one of the reasons, you just brought this up, and one of the reasons I think that is, is it's not necessarily the sex part of it so much as it is her having a greater pool of guys from which one of them could be you.
01:18:17.000One of them could be an alpha guy that she is going to fixate on that, and that answers that hypergamous question, is he the best I can do?
01:18:26.000But the guy I was with, Back when I was in college, back at the club, back when I was, you know, 22 years old, that guy was so much better.
01:18:35.000And so, there's that inability to form that healthy attachment for that guy.
01:18:42.000It's what I call the alpha widows, right?
01:18:43.000They become widowed to the alpha that they had, the one that got away, and the one that they pine for later, when they are less able to even get that kind of guy later on in life.
01:18:54.000Also, another reason I think is, I think that every woman naturally, even Western women, understand.
01:18:59.000Every woman naturally, because they biologically understand, they shouldn't fuck lots of people.
01:19:03.000There's a stigma around fucking lots of guys.
01:19:05.000For every girl, if she slept with one or two guys, the idea of fucking five... You're gonna say to a girl who's had two partners at 23, you're gonna fuck five guys next week.
01:19:35.000And then they become the one in control.
01:19:37.000You know, because there's no stigma against taking a new dick.
01:19:39.000So they're like, oh, we'll do as I say and be my slave and be a little pussy around me, or I'm going to go fuck someone else.
01:19:44.000Then that's just exactly everything I've been talking about reversed.
01:19:47.000You don't want to put yourself in that situation.
01:19:49.000That just made me think of this, is that, like, what you were saying there, and remember what we were saying just a little while ago about how, like, I was getting into, I was locking horns with Jeff Miller about, you know, finding a way to get past the jealousy, finding a way to get past that revulsion, right?
01:20:07.000Like, if you, then this is like, if you know anything about me, my background is behavioral psychology.
01:20:11.000So, it's like, if you can get past Those natural reservations, like you were just saying just a second ago, if you told a girl, if you told the girl, 23 year old girl, next week, you're gonna have sex with five guys, she would be like, Oh, my God, you know, be creeped out.
01:20:24.000It'd be weird to be like, you know, like she would want to avoid that, right?
01:20:28.000That's a natural, unconditioned, Yeah.
01:20:31.000response to, you know, because that seems, because the natural way, of course, is to want to filter, you know, use your hypergerms filters and find the best quality guy, right?
01:20:40.000Not just have like random sex with strangers.
01:20:42.000But what happens is, so what we do, I think now, with an agenda here, is that we want to condition people, men and women really, to get past that natural revulsion.
01:20:54.000Because once you can get past that revulsion instinct, you can mold behavior to be damn near anything you want it to be.
01:21:01.000So if you have, for instance, the poly thing, we can teach guys to be more polar, to accept cuckoldry, which to us, we go, Oh, that's, we have that natural revulsion to the idea of being cucked.
01:21:14.000But if we can say, well, but here you can get off on this cuckoldry, you can mold that cuckoldry to make that person or to mold that behavior any way that you want to.
01:21:24.000Same thing that you're just talking about right there is you can condition women to not think twice about having five guys in one week.
01:21:33.000I mean, I'm sure porn stars probably do that as well, right?
01:21:35.000You know, they're having sex with whoever, but there was a point where they had to get past that natural revulsion.
01:21:41.000And so if you can condition that out of someone, Then you can make them do pretty much anything they want.
01:21:48.000But what I always get at when I talk about this stuff is that the reason you have that revulsion instinct in the first place is because it was evolved into you, because it's part of your mental firmware.
01:21:59.000It's something you naturally feel like.
01:22:39.000So if you're saying, I can't find a good girl, you can't find one girl who doesn't want to jump on every dick, the problem is your low value.
01:22:47.000Because most girls want to be that way.
01:22:48.000In fact, one of my game tips, I guess, I have this thing with girls I do, and it's like if it's girls I barely talk to, or I haven't spoke to in a long time, or I stopped talking to, I removed all my attention, whatever.
01:23:01.000I have this thing where I call girls cheaters.
01:23:04.000So let's say I speak to a girl after three years.
01:24:03.000You should say that because what happens when women fight with other women when they have that intra sexual combat, the first thing women will do is try to disqualify their competitors.
01:24:15.000So if you and I'm sure you've done this because you have you have women around you all the time.
01:24:19.000I see this happen when I'm at a promo or something like that.
01:24:22.000If there's women in a social setting and another woman walks into the room, an unfamiliar one, and she looks good, and she's gaining the attention of guys around that room, what's the first thing that that group of women will do?
01:24:34.000They'll go, oh, I can't believe she wore that.
01:24:39.000Or only a non-quality woman looks like that.
01:24:43.000And they broadcast that to guys because what they're doing is they are disqualifying that woman from the consideration For, you know, reproduction, long-term, whatever, short-term, from anybody that's in that room.
01:25:14.000Why would that be a disqualifier for a woman?
01:25:17.000Well, because men are interested in paternity.
01:25:20.000If you're going to have a long term, if men are looking and we're vetting for two things, sexual fitness and paternity, I got to know she's loyal.
01:25:29.000She's got to be hot and she's got to be, she's got to be mine.
01:25:32.000And I say this all, and this is the side joke I have is every man wants a slut.
01:25:48.000That's why they try to disqualify and that disqualification is based on the idea that she would not be a good candidate For your paternity or any of you other guys, I would be, but she wouldn't because only a hoe dressed like that and she won't be loyal.
01:26:03.000That's what a woman who won't be loyal looks like.
01:26:07.000So she's out, I'm in, look at me, focus on me.
01:26:11.000And that's, uh, you're breaking that down for guys.
01:26:14.000Sometimes it's like, well, this will happen in the blink of an eye.
01:26:17.000It's not like it's like when, when, when a woman walks in and the girl's like, You know, or, and you've probably seen this as well, is if you've been in a social situation and a woman comes in and she's talking to you and your girls are right there and then she goes off, what's the first thing a girl say?
01:26:34.000Did you see that dirty look that that bitch gave me?
01:26:36.000You know, like they have this because they understand subcommunications.
01:26:42.000Women are more, uh, And that's the kind of like this is how instantaneous all of what I was just saying.
01:26:48.000All of this happens in the blink of an eye.
01:26:49.000in front of you, like it was going on right there and you didn't see it, but they do.
01:26:53.000And that's the kind of like, this is how instantaneous all of what I was just saying, all of this happens in the blink of an eye. And I think raising awareness for guys of that is very important. Oh, absolutely.
01:27:26.000So every woman wants to be a good girl.
01:27:28.000So when guys go, there's no good girls left, I say, no, there's a problem with your game.
01:27:31.000Something else I teach in the PhD course.
01:27:34.000I'm glad you brought that up because I wanted to sort of move this on here a little bit too.
01:27:38.000Because people are going to hit me on this and say, well, Rollo, so there's no such thing as a quality woman.
01:27:43.000Well, when I say that, I say that because guys take that idea of a quality woman, just like you just did a minute ago here, and they use that as sort of their ideal.
01:28:28.000And that's what I was getting at when I was saying there's no such thing as a quality woman, because women are just women and you need to work with them by their nature.
01:28:36.000I've been asked, sorry, I've been asked this a million times.
01:28:42.000The PhD tests I do in the PhD course will tell you if she's a good blueprint and that's all.
01:28:47.000If you want a quality woman, you need to build her into a quality woman from the ground up.
01:28:52.000She is a reflection of who you are as a man.
01:28:55.000My woman, or my women who work for me and have worked for me for four or five years, have made me over a million dollars each, have never cheated, who cook, who clean, who obey, who comply.
01:29:04.000Do you think they'd do that for any man who fucked them?
01:29:06.000Do you think if some other loser banged them, they'd be doing that for him?
01:29:12.000I, through being me, through conditioning them, through passing shit tests, through putting down, like we said earlier, putting down red lines that they cannot cross, through whatever, have built myself the perfect woman.
01:29:25.000I was talking to a guy, I won't say who, he's a high profile guy, he's got blue checkmark, he's on Twitter, and he was messaging me saying he has problems.
01:29:31.000And he was saying, I can't find a girl who understands that sometimes they need to take a look back and realize they have a part to play in the argument.
01:29:53.000You need to be the kind of man who's going to set boundaries and she's going to comply for them and eventually end up being a good woman for you.
01:29:59.000You're never going to find a good woman.
01:30:25.000You're not gonna just stumble out in the world and find it.
01:30:27.000Because if girls like that existed naturally in the wild, the very few that do, I guarantee they're already shacked up with some dude and they ain't talking to you.
01:30:35.000So, it's like you have to build a quality woman.
01:30:58.000You have to be, you have to make a good girl.
01:31:00.000I think that a lot of guys right now, when they're, when they listen to this, they, just like I was saying before, they, they see this as being a lot of effort.
01:31:09.000It takes effort on the part of a guy To make a good girl to have that good relationship like to to build that to build the ferrari, right?
01:31:19.000There's still uh, you still have to build it.
01:31:21.000You still have to put it all together You have to be the one that is responsible for that.
01:31:24.000I think a lot of guys Think that it should be just like turnkey Like you should just be able to just go in and if she should just you know Come to you as as she is and then maybe you guys develop something later on and I think that Really what this is, is it's this idea, it's this old school idea, like it's the old social contract.
01:31:43.000Back in the day, when women were more dependent on men, when women had, where they were dependent on them for security, for protection, for provisions, for, you know, to be a good, like, you can talk about that, I keep bringing up the Alpha God here, but like back in the day, in the time of like, you know, the Old Testament or something like that,
01:32:03.000There was an understanding that that's what the guy was supposed to do, and this is what women are supposed to do, and they were supposed to be the woman who did all those things that you were just talking about right now.
01:32:16.000It was probably a lot easier because there were well-defined gender roles.
01:32:24.000Barrier to entry for it to have a good relationship, a man has to put in more.
01:32:30.000He's got to be the guy that is actually going to put his foot down, the guy who's going to control the frame of the relationship.
01:32:36.000He's got to be the guy who's actually going to, like you were saying, you've got to build that woman into the woman that you want her to be.
01:32:42.000Whereas I think a lot of guys still cling to this old school idea that, well, she should just come to me like that.
01:32:47.000Or if she came from a good family, then she would already be the perfect girl.
01:32:52.000Or if she didn't have feminism, she would already be the perfect girl.
01:32:57.000It's like, no, it doesn't work that way.
01:32:59.000You have to build that woman into the way that she is or the way that you want her to be.
01:34:34.000Yeah, it's funny, I 100% agree with you, but I think that there is, in old school PUA, there was this idea that you, depending on who you are, if you had the ethics that said, you know what, I don't want to deal with a, you know, if she's already in a relationship, whatever, that's what it's called the boyfriend disclaimer.
01:34:52.000When a woman starts talking about her boyfriend while you are in the process of talking to her or chatting her up, she is saying that she's inserting that into the conversation To basically tell you, I know what you're doing and I'm not into it.
01:35:05.000So at that point, you can either do what you, what you would do is just like, Hey, I'm not into girls with boyfriends.
01:35:22.000But my, My take on that was always if the chick is not 100% into you, if she's not 100% interest, if there's not 100% genuine desire, I don't want to be responsible for having to try to kick that up if she's not really into it, right? If she doesn't have the genuine desire, if she's not really into me, if she's not the kind of girl who wants to blow off her boyfriend to get with me
01:35:51.000in the first place, like I want a woman who has the kind of desire where she will tattoo her name on her body, your name on your body. I was going to bring that out.
01:36:00.000That kind of, but, but that be her idea. Not me going, Hey, why don't you talk to my name on your butt? No, she goes, you know what? Look, I got this new tattoo. It's your name.
01:36:08.000That's where you want. That's the desire. If a girl says to me, Oh, well, if I'm talking to a girl for a while and she goes, well, what will my boyfriend think?
01:36:17.000I'll say, well, are you going to tell him?
01:36:31.000But the way he phrased the question, if she's saying, you're a mugger, I can't wait till my boyfriend gets here, as in he's on his way, but then you may as well fucking pull the ego shot to her and leave anyway, because otherwise you're gonna end up in a fist fight when the dude turns up.
01:36:41.000So like, you know, like you, there's not much else you can do there besides, oh, boyfriend, disqualify it.
01:36:46.000But if I'm talking to a girl online or something, and she goes, what would my, and I say, look, you're coming with me, I'm gonna see you on Thursday, what would my boyfriend think?
01:36:51.000I'll just reply, don't tell him then, question mark.
01:36:54.000Or if someone has to tell him I will, he won't say shit.
01:36:57.000I said, he's a pussy. So you can disqualify him in a few different ways. But yeah, the boyfriend thing happens now and again. But the way he asked that question, I don't think there's much else you can do. Yeah. Boyfriends go. That's one thing I say when people, girls go, I have a boyfriend.
01:37:14.000Yeah. I want to get into this too. I got We're coming up on the 2 hour mark here.
01:37:22.000I do want to ask you this because I know you're doing the PhD program and I know right now you're in LA and you're doing these seminars, well I guess they're get-togethers or whatever, the War Room thing.
01:37:34.000One of the things I see and I I find this kind of fascinating, particularly in the environment that the Manusphere has been sort of, I don't know, evolving into recently.
01:37:45.000There seems to be more guys, like you were saying before, the guys who are looking for that traditional, they want one chick, they want to go to church, they don't want to listen to what I have to say, because what I have to say with respect to women, or any of this conversation that we've just had over the course of this last hour and a half, They would take that as being degeneracy.
01:38:08.000They would take that as being, well, you're destroying Western culture.
01:38:19.000But what I find fascinating is the same guys that end up in your war room.
01:38:24.000Are the same guy, like having this conversation right now, if it comes from you, if you're talking about this stuff, I mean, pretty much everything we've discussed here, if I talk about spinning plates, if I talk about, you know, not genuine desire, if I start talking about aspects of hypergamy, they'll come down on me for that, because they think that that is non-traditional, that doesn't go with their religious beliefs, or maybe their ideological, it could be political, their political
01:38:49.000you know, convictions, right? And but yet you seem to be able to get these guys to still want to live the kind of lifestyle that you are living right now. But it seems like they're trying to balance what you like your life with the kind of life that they claim to want, like that traditional conservative lifestyle with the good girl. But yet you're telling the like the stuff you're saying, I don't think they would disagree with. But yet it seems like there's kind of like, I don't call it
01:39:18.000hypocrisy, but there's just sort of like a contradiction that's going on. Yeah, let's talk about it. So So.
01:39:29.000Let's say if you're a strong guy or you're a fighter, the first thing you get messages about is, well, what's the point in learning how to fight?
01:39:35.000Or if you have a Lamborghini, well, that car is impractical.
01:39:37.000Exactly what we were saying earlier with the girls.
01:39:40.000Oh, anyone who comes along and says that a man who lives an uncompromising life who does whatever he wants and has unlimited access to beautiful females is living a life wrong is a man who is jealous and is trying to disqualify that lifestyle because they can't have it.
01:41:15.000A man can love you with all his heart, a man can be ready to take a bullet for you, and he can still walk over there and have a threesome with those two hoes.
01:41:21.000Very easily, very easily can a man do that.
01:41:25.000So all the people who come along and say, I know he's degenerate, he's bad, there's a huge tint of jealousy in there.
01:42:13.000I've exploited a sexual dynamic which has been created, and I don't see any problem with that.
01:42:17.000So a lot of people who have an issue with me, part of it's jealousy.
01:42:21.000I think a lot of it is jealousy because a whole bunch of dudes just don't like the harsh reality of the life I live.
01:42:25.000And they sit there, and when they're forced to accept that my women, knowing I cheat, are more loyal than their wife, Most of the time, it grates on them to a level that they can't tolerate.
01:44:40.000If you can find another way to show a girl you love her and she knows that she only gets that but other girls get sex, she will still be satisfied enough in the relationship.
01:45:04.000You're going to start sleeping with other girls.
01:45:06.000You're not going to tell your girl you're going to wait till you get caught because there's no point sitting down trying to be rational with females.
01:45:35.000But if he's out and he fucks girls, as long as he comes home, she doesn't even ask anymore.
01:45:39.000So this is a guy I've taken from, if I cheat, she'll leave, to now his girl going, well, you can fuck anyone you want because I know you don't love them, but you have to sleep next to me.
01:45:47.000And he's messaging me all the time with these hoses banging.
01:45:53.000Your woman has a way to latch her mind onto believing that you only love her because you're showing your love through another method as opposed to sexual exclusivity.
01:46:01.000If you remove and change that barrier, it's very easy to sleep with lots of women and your women go, yeah, but I know he loves me.
01:46:06.000And she'll be secure enough to let you do it.
01:46:39.000That's part of, um, it's, uh, gosh, I forget the, no, it's, um, it's, what is it?
01:46:45.000Strategic pluralism theory, which is that they, we talk about this in the red pill a lot, which is the 80, 20 rule, right?
01:46:52.00085% of guys are always going to be on the low end of the sexual market value.
01:46:58.000Now, that's not to say that they can't make more of themselves.
01:47:00.000They can, but then there's the top 20 percenters and there's this idea that if you are, if there's, if it's not one man, one woman, then that means like, for instance, like you say, you've got three girls.
01:47:12.000That means two more guys out there don't have a wife and they're going to get pissed off and they're going to be the guys that come in with the machetes and try to take what you have.
01:47:21.000That's sort of the downside of polyamory, I guess, is that it is a destabilizing of society.
01:47:32.000It's destabilizing of society in that, like, if there's, like, this is why we see, like, countries that are, where polyamory is the norm, they tend to be the most war-torn countries that there are.
01:47:45.000Because if there's one guy that's got four wives, that means three other dudes don't have a wife, and therefore those three guys get together and they want to go and kill Tate because he's got three women and that's the only way we're going to get through this.
01:47:55.000Why are they socially conditioning men So this is how it started.
01:47:59.000The social conditioning that if you're a real man, you only want one woman.
01:48:03.000But now it's gone so far to the point where we're into Pauly and all this other crazy shit.
01:48:06.000But that's all part of the social conditioning.
01:48:13.000Most men are sitting in a marriage where they don't get sex, they're not respected, working a job they hate to pay bills for kids who don't listen to them, and they're on the verge of fucking suicide.
01:48:24.000But they're afraid to get divorced because they know the court will turn on them and destroy them.
01:48:29.000And I know this, because these are all the customers who are talking to my girls, crying their eyes out late at night, halfway through a bottle of whiskey, saying they wish they could do their life again.
01:48:39.000But this is what society wants, because it allows a taxpayer to raise the kids, a little family unit, put the ants in the right boxes, the government ain't gonna raise them, bang.
01:48:48.000I know that men like me are no good for a government.
01:48:51.000How am I good for a government with all my females?
01:48:53.000Imagine I started impregnating them all and just, and whenever any one of them half annoyed me, I said, welcome to the struggle, bitch.
01:49:31.000I've said this before, is that men's basic instinct are a natural evolved.
01:49:36.000If we had, if we had the, like you said, if we could be Jesus and turn had mind control and all this other stuff, You think all the men writing these thirst trap captions on Instagram, you think they're not all fucking, they probably all half of them are married, half of them have a girlfriend, you think they're not carrying on chasing some other hoe?
01:50:24.000They would say, I want unlimited access to unlimited sexuality.
01:50:27.000And then there's the guys who are the bottom 80 percent.
01:50:29.000And they're the ones who will try to coerce you Yeah.
01:50:33.000into believing that it's unnatural for that, or you're a man whore, or you're ruining society, or Western culture is declining because you guys keep nailing all these chicks, ruining these girls for guys like me who want to take care of them and have a good Western family.
01:50:56.000These are the guys, and what, what, what I, okay, so, so putting that out there, there's the, this is, I just, in, in brief, I just gave you the strategic pluralism theory.
01:51:05.000Guys who are on the low end of the sexual market value scale, the 80% are guys.
01:51:11.000Those are the ones who are always going to advocate for religion, for traditional conservatism.
01:51:17.000Those are the guys who are going to say, one man, one woman.
01:51:19.000And if you don't do it, the whole system's going to go to hell.
01:51:22.000And that's the way it should be, because it's actually what works in the best interest of them, because at least it ensures them to get it with one woman, right?
01:51:31.000If not many women, at least I get one.
01:51:32.000And these are the guys, of course, who are addicted to porn, addicted to feminism.
01:52:26.000And it's like, you know, clean your room, stand up straight.
01:52:28.000That kind of stuff sounds revolutionary to these guys because nobody's ever, you know, slapped him upside the head and say, look, you know what you're saying, what I think.
01:52:36.000But what I wanted to ask you this and I'll get to this other question here in just a second.
01:54:14.000So, I have a lot of guys come to me and say, how do I make my woman respect me?
01:54:17.000And how that's done, we've discussed already a lot throughout this podcast.
01:54:21.000But I think that's one of the appealing things I have is when guys understand that I do have a can business, I do have girls who obey me.
01:54:28.000I have guys who don't like the answer because the answer is you have to cut the ones who don't obey and you have to be ruthless and you have to be a man.
01:54:35.000But then when you start telling them that they're like, oh, I'm not man enough to do that too much.
01:54:45.000And they're usually older guys are usually between they're in the prime suicide demographic, which is like 45 to like 60 somewhere on there.
01:58:24.000He says, do you believe Taoism and Zen is important in life and martial arts?
01:58:30.000Anything that can emotionally affect you can steal your power.
01:58:33.000I don't know if I've ever asked you this before, yeah.
01:58:37.000What do you think of that? Yeah, so we're gonna apply this to women because we're talking about women right now. Anything that can emotionally affect you can steal your power. If you allow a woman to make you angry, she can control you. Maybe she can only control you in one direction, but she can control you.
01:58:51.000She can say X words and you'll react X way.
01:59:12.000Because if she can control you, of course you have to be Zen.
01:59:15.000Because you can't allow things to make you angry because then she can control you.
01:59:18.000I'll give you an example of how women think very quickly.
01:59:21.000When I was fighting, every single girl I was dating, they behaved most of the time, but when it was a three or four days before a fight and I was on edge and I was nervous and I was weight depleted, I'd lost like five or six kilos.
02:00:06.000They want an argument because they want to affect you emotionally.
02:00:10.000Once you're susceptible to emotional affection, they're going to come at you.
02:00:15.000So, I mean, at the time, all I had to do was just get rid of them, stay calm, kick them out the house and just ignore them.
02:00:20.000And after the fight, bang a bunch of ring girls, watch them cry and beg for me back.
02:00:24.000But the point is this, if you're always the guy that they can emotionally affect, then they're going to do it like a cat with a fucking string for fun, like a puppet.
02:01:46.000This is why they like funny guys funny ain't enough anymore Hey, this is a good this is a good one now because I've written about this as well He says don't women and men view respect differently.
02:01:54.000I would say yes I don't know if you would say yes or no, but I think yes, and I'll tell you why I I've said this before, is that men and women have different concepts of love, but they also have different concepts for other things, and respect is one of those things.
02:02:09.000So, when women are raised, particularly in Western society, there is this presumption that they get a default respect just for being a woman.
02:03:25.000Another thing I've noticed with respect between the males and the females is that men can separate respect from their emotions and they can respect retrospectively.
02:03:35.000So with a man, let's say I'm doing business with a man and we make a lot of money and then we have an argument and we fall out.
02:06:08.000And that's and they think I've got some trick like I tricked the girl or I forced the girl or it's really not like that.
02:06:14.000One of its respect is a huge respect is a huge part of it.
02:06:17.000The girls are proud of my name to the point where they respect me enough that they're happy to put my name on them.
02:06:23.000But the other thing is the thing we talked about earlier about how there's no good girls and how if you tell a girl she's not a good girl, how much it bothers them.
02:06:31.000And that's about 90% of the tattoo game.
02:06:33.000So, I'll say to the girl, well, you're serious about us.
02:07:29.000And now it's funny because all these girls say, yep, I've seen on your Instagram, all these other girls have tattoos and you're not with them anymore.
02:09:02.000And I want to live a more, like, conservative, you know, traditional lifestyle with one chick, and then he'll occasionally, like, in between his Instagram shots of his Halloween parties, he's like, oh, is this all there is to life kind of thing?
02:09:19.000And what happens is when a guy like that puts out those tweets, or he in some way affirms for Trad cons.
02:09:29.000He affirms for them like, oh, see, even Dan Blitzerian, he can have anything he wants and he still comes back and he still wants the basics of life, which is a good woman and, you know, two kids and a dog in the yard and a white picket fence.
02:09:42.000And so they use that as kind of like their own like self-righteous justification for, you know, for their own, for what it is. But I want to throw that out there because I'm interested as well. Like what do you think about Dan Blitzerian, particularly with his, with respect to him having it all and then still wanting to live that more like conservative lifestyle?
02:10:21.000Second thing, we're in a different category, because although I don't think he pays his girls, I know for a fact, because I know girls who have fucked him, who I've fucked too, he pays their flights, he pays their hotel.
02:10:30.000So he does look after the girls, whereas my girls work for me and give me money.
02:10:34.000So in many ways, I see me as above him from a game perspective, because I'm saying, I'm going to teach you how to make girls pay you.
02:10:40.000Whereas he can never teach that because he just pays for his girl's things.
02:10:43.000He doesn't physically hand them money, but he's a multi-multi-multi-millionaire.
02:11:55.000So anyone who's tries to look at Dan Bilzerian to justify a trad life is a fucking moron.
02:12:00.000Anyone who tries to look at Dan Bilzerian and say that his life is vapious and he's unhappy, look, he's going to need kids one day because I think men have a natural, we all want offspring.
02:12:21.000I mean, I'm 32, which I guess I'm kind of old.
02:12:23.000As a man, you don't have a ticking clock, really, do you?
02:12:26.000So maybe when I'm 33, 34, this is actually another thing that I don't want to say anything that's going to get us banned or anything, but I'm half black, half white.
02:12:34.000So this isn't racist, but all the black side of my family.
02:12:38.000They just, their strategy for keeping girls is almost to get them pregnant.
02:12:45.000I know this sounds, I'm not trying to be racist.
02:12:47.000I'm saying I know black guys, my black cousins who go, yeah, I like her, she's hot, so I'm gonna give her a baby, and then she can't cheat.
02:12:53.000That's like literally their mating strategy.
02:12:56.000They're not interested in raising that kid.
02:12:57.000They ain't gonna stay at home and be dad.
02:13:00.000They ain't got any money, so she can't take them to divorce court, because they ain't got anything.
02:13:03.000That's just their strategy to fucking keep their women in line, just to get their babies out.
02:13:07.000So that's another whole nother strategy you can discuss.
02:13:11.000Yeah, I absolutely am going to have kids and I think it's natural for a man to want to have kids and want to have offspring.
02:13:23.000with a woman without marrying her, I believe I can be a good father while still fucking something else. I really believe I can. That's what I'm going to do.
02:13:30.000I don't think it's going to affect my, my child. My child's not going to fucking know what I'm doing. I don't think it's going to affect it. I'm not going to change my life. I'm black.
02:13:38.000It's true. It's true, bro. I'm not going to change. I love screaming. People try and use that again. People try to use it against me and say, well, when you want, you're never going to have kids.
02:14:13.000And Dan Bilzerian is going to want kids too, but he's never going to, you think he's going to give up all that pussy and go down to one girl.
02:14:19.000You think he's going to be satisfied with one girl after the life he's lived?
02:14:23.000I know even after the life I've lived, I can't be satisfied with one girl.
02:14:26.000I know there's always, it doesn't matter how beautiful she is, as soon as she's a brunette, I'm going to want a blonde one day.
02:15:21.000I was just going to say, I have a, I have a, I have a theory about that.
02:15:26.000I when Me Too started blowing up and everybody was saying, you know, if you look at these guys who the guys who get the Me Too allegations are usually guys who try to play along with women's narratives.
02:15:38.000So if it's a guy who's like a male feminist, as soon as you say you're a male feminist, you can pretty much start the clock because you're going to get your something's coming down the down the pipes right there.
02:15:49.000But then you got a guy like Gene Simmons, right?
02:15:56.000Why is it that rock stars who have had like, you know, who are happily say, I've had sex with thousands of women.
02:16:03.000Not one of those thousands of women has come back and said, Oh, he raped me or he touched me the wrong way.
02:16:08.000You're not seeing those things because there's a difference between the kind of guy that a woman wants that attention from and the kind of guy that she doesn't want.
02:16:15.000And I think that when, Nine times out of ten, when you look at the Me Too allegations, it's usually women who say, oh, that guy was creepy.
02:16:39.000Now women have the ability to sort of like Mandate that legally that if you're a beta guy, you shouldn't be trying to pretend that you're an alpha guy.
02:16:47.000And that's why guys like you, guys like me, guys who are in the particularly in pickup artistry and that kind of stuff, guys who are in in the game teaching guys to be better.
02:16:56.000The reason why women hate that so much is because you're teaching guys to be better.
02:17:01.000To actually be that guy, to actually be the guy that maybe he inspires respect and arousal and attraction and might actually be that guy because it removes a degree of control away from them because they want 100% total control.
02:17:15.000They want the guy who's the real deal.
02:17:17.000Well, It's one thing to be the guy who's the creepy 80 percenter guy, and it's another thing to be the 20 percenter guy who actually gets laid and is deserving of respect that women want to get with, but to say, hey, Mr. Beta guy who's like, you're part of the 80 percent, you want to be part of the 20 percent?
02:17:34.000I'll teach you how to be part of the 20 percent.
02:17:36.000Women hate that because now you're tricking them.
02:17:38.000You're getting past that hypergamous filter by turning those guys into better people.
02:18:03.000Oh no, you're gonna turn a creep into a guy that I might actually like, right?
02:18:08.000Sorry, but that's, you know, now we, again.
02:18:11.000It's not gonna be guys like me that do this.
02:18:13.000It's gonna be women It's gonna be women's actions that wake up guys more than you or me or anybody else So anyways, this has been great man.
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