In this episode of the Troy Francis Podcast, I'm joined by the one and only Andrew Tate. Andrew is a four-time kickboxing world champion, entrepreneur, entrepreneur and entrepreneur in general. He's been described as "The Real Life James Bond" and in this episode, we talk about how he got his start in the game, what it's like to be a pimp, and why he doesn't really care about sex anymore. He just wants to make money, and he's not going to stop until he gets there. I think you're going to love this episode - it's a must listen! If you haven't listened to this episode yet, you should definitely do so before you listen to the rest of the podcast, because it's going to blow your mind. Enjoy, and spread the word to your friends and family about this episode to let them know that this one's for them. I hope they enjoy it, and if you do, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and tell us what you think about it! We'll be looking out for you in the next episode! -Tune in next week's episode of Troy Francis' podcast, where we'll be talking about sex, drugs and money. Peace, Love, Blessings, Cheers. -Troy Francis xxx - EJ & Co. -Jon & Andrew xxx -PSA to all the boys at The Troy Francis - This episode was recorded live on audio and visual - we'll talk about sex and money, so don't forget to send us your thoughts and opinions on it on the next week! -Jon and Andrew x Jon & Andrew xx - Tom - - Jon and Andrew - Pimp by 50 Cent's new album "Pimp by Jay-Z's "The Game" - I'm Too Effing Good to Meet Me" - & much more! - Jon talks about his new album, The Game is Good To Be Good by Pimpin' by Puff & The Crew . (featuring some of his new song, I'm Notorious by Mr. , , I'm So Good To Me, I'll See You, I Don't Know What's Good, I Can't Have It (feat. & I'm Gonna Say That by Mr Pimp By Me) - by , and much more.
00:00:00.000Well, good afternoon and welcome to a historic episode of the Troy Francis podcast, which we are simultaneously recording on audio and also on visual because I have a very special guest with me today, which is the one, the only Mr. Andrew Tate.
00:01:19.000Teenagers dream of like cars, girls, money, you know, like I've got it and I'm definitely a feminist's worst nightmare.
00:01:28.000They imagine a toxically masculine six-foot-four fighting guy with his Lambo full of honeys.
00:01:33.000I am the ultimate toxically masculine.
00:01:36.000Absolutely, and that's why we're holed up in this Very anonymous, discreet hotel room somewhere in London because what we're going to be talking about today could be so shocking that the authorities might burst in at any moment.
00:02:36.000Yeah, the thing is, firstly, I'll just say that I don't like Jay-Z, but the line is good.
00:02:43.000And also, when you listen to Pimp by 50 Cent, it shows he certainly knows something about the game as well, because there's a few lines in there that really resonate with me.
00:02:52.000I think one of the lines is, these guys are by the bar trying to get a drink about her, Yeah um I'm the guy uh something uh I'm the guy trying to get my some money out versus something I can't remember the exact line which fucked it up in the podcast but the point is when everyone else was looking just to get sex if you make money from women you're that is a complete side That's a bonus, a sidetrack.
00:03:15.000And where I've run these businesses, I've run strip clubs, I've run webcam companies, after you start doing it, your perception does change.
00:03:22.000You see a beautiful girl in the club and you're like, okay, yeah, I want her.
00:03:25.000But also she's worth, you start looking at them with a price tag attached.
00:03:28.000You start thinking, that can make me money.
00:03:31.000And you get to a point where you have a choice.
00:03:33.000People say, okay, or you have a girl and you're like, okay, Do I want the money or do I want to fuck her?
00:03:38.000And eventually you get to a point you're like, well, I just, I really, I just want the money.
00:03:58.000And you get to a point, I guess, where this, you've got so much, what they would call abundance that it goes beyond, Probably even the fucking Almost Gets Boring in the end.
00:04:59.000If you have lots of girls and you're busy, trust me, I lived this life.
00:05:03.000If you have lots of girls and you're busy and you have maybe 45 minutes to spend with a girl, how can you give her as much focused attention and love, because that's all they want, in 45 minutes?
00:06:06.000I wasn't really... I forgot to click my verification email.
00:06:10.000Like, literally, I didn't give a shit about Twitter until Trump got elected and then it was too much fun to piss off the Liberals and I ended up on Twitter.
00:06:15.000And I kind of end up in this sphere on accident.
00:06:17.000And I didn't really know PUA was too much of a thing until I learned about it.
00:06:20.000And I don't think PUA as a whole is bad.
00:06:55.000So if you pick up a high value asset, In the pimp game, you need to learn how to control her and retain her.
00:06:59.000You need to make her do as you say, and you have to keep her.
00:07:02.000You have to keep her regardless, in spite of the fact that you cheat, you're busy, you take all her money, you make her do something she doesn't want to do, and she still has to stay with you.
00:07:19.000Whereas me, I was much more like, I'd rather have five 10 out of 10 beauty queens living in my house who all adore me, then go out every night and pick up new random sevens.
00:07:29.000And I guess that's where my criticism comes from because a lot of the guys, I think, they teach the first segment and I'm like, okay, cool.
00:07:36.000But to me, you're missing the whole other end of the game.
00:07:42.000Because I suppose what game always was, was this idea that the ordinary guy in the street could effectively pretend to be the alpha male.
00:07:50.000So do you think the problem is that what a lot of the pick-up guys are doing is getting people to fake it in the first, you know, on the approach and maybe on the, you know, take her back and bang her, but then after that they can't keep up the facade?
00:08:01.000Whereas obviously For you, you've obviously got the rest of the package as well.
00:08:08.000If you imitate, if you pretend to be a certain way, and we're not even talking financials, because I picked up a girl when I had no fucking money, but I was still a fighter and I was still ambitious and I had self-respect and all these other things that they like.
00:08:19.000If you imitate a certain type of person to get the girl, over the long term, they're going to work out you're not the type of person they thought you were and you're going to lose them.
00:08:44.000And I think to be fair to the game guys, I think actually a lot of the message has always been, yes, you can learn these techniques and you can fake it to make it, but then at the same time, you need to be improving yourself.
00:08:54.000You need to be, you know, becoming a better guy in all of these different ways.
00:08:58.000But I still think there's something slightly different with What you're talking about, which I wonder whether is going to be applicable to every guy, because what I think you're talking about is this almost like iceberg, slim, sort of like... Yeah.
00:09:16.000You know, it's almost slightly dark in a way.
00:09:36.000I say, even if you don't want to be a webcam pimp, even if you don't want to be a playboy, even if you just want to get married and have a nice girlfriend, in the modern world, you need to sleep with 20 girls to find a good one.
00:09:56.000Like, so even me at my level, I'll sleep with a girl, and I have my own little ways, and I teach this in one of my courses, but my own little ways of detecting if she's quality or not.
00:10:05.000If they're giving me red flags, I'll just bail and find another one.
00:10:07.000So even if you want to be just a normal dude, you still need to have the ability to pick up lots of girls, because you've got to find a good one, which is the first thing.
00:10:15.000And in the modern world, you've got to get through a whole bunch of apples to find an apple that's not rotten.
00:10:19.000And the second thing is, then when you get her, how do you keep her?
00:11:05.000Which nobody else, and you're right, nobody else talks about that as far as I know, because It's the pimp's skill in being able to completely dominate that woman to the point that she's absolutely hopelessly in love with you.
00:11:19.000And the thing is, it's seen, like you said, it's seen as very dark, but in pimping, you see you have a gorilla pimp, and gorilla pimping's pimping through fear and intimidation.
00:11:37.000It's about, like you're saying, it's love and devotion and it's done through positivity and it's done through them thinking, I don't want a million dollars if I don't have a million dollars and him.
00:12:07.000And you're right, that real deep conversion is something that I think is necessary for every man, even if you want one woman.
00:12:14.000If you're going to get a wife, I see on Twitter, man, I see these dudes and their wives leaving them and they're taking all the money and all that shit.
00:12:20.000I've had court cases where six of my girlfriends have turned up and not one of them's turned on me.
00:12:26.000Any one of them could have put me in jail.
00:12:28.000And they found out about the other girls on the day of court case and still didn't turn on me.
00:12:31.000So like, I'm not saying I'm some fucking Superman.
00:12:34.000I'm just saying that I've always focused on not just getting the girls.
00:12:38.000Once I get them, that's the beginning of the project for me.
00:12:40.000I want everything else afterwards to have that true devotion.
00:12:43.000Because that's what I'm more interested in than fucking lots of girls.
00:12:57.000And I think, aside from yourself as an example, when I see other guys who do this kind of thing, when I've met girls who've been obsessed with a particular guy, it tends to be because They've got inside her psychology in a way.
00:13:12.000And it usually is to do with the fact that the guy is completely prepared to walk away.
00:13:16.000And sometimes it's to do with the fact the guy will say, well, actually, I'm fucking other girls and they're hotter than you.
00:14:22.000And if you don't play chess, maybe this is a bad analogy, but if you've got a position and it's a losing position, and sooner or later your opponent's going to grind you down and you're going to lose.
00:14:33.000But the only hope you have is to sacrifice a piece, for example, and to play a crazy move.
00:14:42.000So for me, it's like, well you play the move, and if it doesn't work out, fine, because you were always going to lose.
00:14:48.000But most people are too afraid to pull the plug and force the action, and they'd rather just let it slowly happen.
00:14:55.000Their girlfriend will start to disrespect them, they'll take the shit, their girl stops listening, their girl starts getting friends, going out with their friends all the time, she's not listening, they're telling her not to, she won't do as they say, and they're just sitting there going, it'll be alright, it'll be okay, it'll be okay.
00:15:33.000Because I think that's an issue in game sort of per se really, which is that guys want to stay Guys sort of would rather stay in uncertainty or they'd rather stay in a comfortable situation rather than making themselves uncomfortable.
00:15:45.000So that could even go from the approach, you know, well there's a really hot girl over there but I'm not going to approach her because she might tell me to fuck off.
00:15:51.000And then you get the same thing, then you're with the girl and you're like, well I kind of want to go away with my mates for three months to Thailand but I'm not going to do it because she might dump me.
00:15:59.000And it's always this desire to stay comfortable.
00:16:02.000I get the impression with you, you're very much fuck comfort.
00:16:06.000Yeah, I'm just very... I'm very, very... My view of women is a protective one, and it's a patriarchal one, and it's not a misogynist or negative one.
00:17:22.000And I was like, oh, well, I don't want you dancing there.
00:17:24.000Anyway, and this is where I learned my move, I should have done a takeaway.
00:17:27.000Anyway, so I said to her then, I said, look, you either dance at the club or you're gonna stay, or you dance at the club and we split up, or you stay with me and you don't.
00:17:36.000And even my brother said at the time, he goes, why are you being so extreme?
00:17:38.000I was like, there is no way on a long term, this girl who was a fucking 10, she was the head of a ballet school in Cambridge.
00:17:46.000I'll find a picture of her and I'll show you.
00:17:47.000There's no way this 10 is gonna go to the top London club, Three, four times a week, every night, drinking champagne with millionaires while I sit here broke and her love for me is going to stop her fucking one of them guys.
00:17:59.000On a long enough time scale, I'm going to lose.
00:18:02.000So now I either have to force my hand or thing.
00:18:41.000I always kind of knew the rules to the game and another thing is I was lucky that I always had fighting so I always had this higher purpose so I could always distract myself.
00:18:51.000I wouldn't let a girl get in my head because I always had a fight to worry about so I was like alright whatever.
00:18:55.000I think ultimately that's got to be more important hasn't it?
00:18:57.000The higher purpose over and above women.
00:18:59.000Absolutely because if you're going to let a woman fuck with your head and you're not going to train properly then you can get your ass kicked.
00:19:06.000So fighting was the one thing that always kept me grounded where no matter what happened with a girl, I had to go to the gym, I had to train, I had to prepare, I had to be mentally ready.
00:19:14.000So it always kept me Even in my early days, I was always red-pilled because I was always like, okay, if you're gonna be stupid, I've got a fight, so bye.
00:19:23.000So coming off of that, can we turn our attention to what you think about relationships and monogamy in general?
00:19:31.000Because on Twitter, I see a lot of these sort of like TradCon, you know, kind of guys who are sort of like, yeah man, it's all about getting married and growing a beard.
00:19:40.000Having the White House with the picket fence, it's gone back to this sort of like very traditional idea that that is the alpha girl.
00:19:47.000Now, I mean, I understand on the one hand, you've got your, you come from quite a traditional sort of sense in this, in the fact, you know, family's very important to you and everything else.
00:19:58.000But on the other hand, I do think these guys are being a bit naive because it almost seems as if they've learned nothing from all of this red pill stuff.
00:20:05.000And they say, Oh yeah, well, if you're just If you're just alpha enough within the marriage, within the relationship, then, you know, she will love you forever and it'll all be fine.
00:20:14.000I wonder what your thoughts on that are because the way you described it, even you as Andrew Tate, I mean okay it was a few years ago, but even you with a girl who was going out dancing you ended up having to cut that off because female nature is what it is.
00:20:28.000Yeah, absolutely and my view on the whole marriage and stuff, I'm very much have your cake and eat it.
00:21:24.000Men are not biologically designed to do that.
00:21:26.000Men are biologically designed to If you look at the human history and evolution, every man had multiple women and they got them pregnant and they found another younger model and that was how men have always been.
00:21:35.000So yeah, I'm going to have kids, I'm going to have family, but I'm always going to have some fresh new 19 year old in my phone.
00:21:42.000And I'm just never going to lie about that fact.
00:21:44.000And I think if you find women who truly love you, like we were talking earlier with the deep conversion, I don't hide the fact that I fuck other girls.
00:22:01.000You can be fucking your main girl, telling her you cheated on her last night, I guarantee she'll love it.
00:22:06.000Afterwards she'll be mad, but during the time she'll like it.
00:22:10.000You can reach that level where I really think, yeah, kids are important, yeah, having women who truly love you is important, but I don't think you need to completely go that trad and con at all.
00:22:18.000I know that I'm gonna, I'm never gonna change, you know?
00:22:21.000Yeah, because I just think it's, I think guys are either kidding themselves or they're being sometimes dishonest in saying, because I don't believe men are monogamous, fundamentally.
00:22:30.000I think fundamentally every guy, regardless of if he's married or got a girlfriend or whatever, if a hot 21 year old, 19 year old walked past him and he had the opportunity to have sex with her and no one would find out.
00:23:14.000In Eastern Europe, if you see like a Romanian girl and she's with like a high-level guy, like a mafia boss or some shit, she'll say, oh, I know what he does.
00:23:41.000And the fact that monogamy has been introduced by society, it's societal, but it's certainly not natural.
00:23:48.000Well, I guess the argument is that monogamy was, well, as I've said on Twitter a few times, I mean, monogamy was not introduced by guys with options, because why would you?
00:23:57.000So, I suppose the argument is monogamy was, you know, very roughly speaking, introduced by the 80%, if you want to split it to that 80-20 thing, to make sure that the 80% had a woman and they, you know, they were satisfied and everything else.
00:24:12.000So, what's interesting, and what I wanted to come on to now, is Because this is something I'm trying to get my head around as well.
00:24:20.000Playing devil's advocate, guys will be looking at you and saying, yeah, that's great for Tate because, you know, G lifestyle, he's got the Lambos, kickboxing, all, you know, the money and all the rest of it.
00:24:30.000Can guys who are in the 80% get into the top 20%?
00:25:08.000So I always had the ability to get girls, even when I had no money.
00:25:12.000And I did that through, like I said, self-respect, being in fantastic shape, having ambition, being clearly career-driven.
00:25:21.000These are things that basically anyone can do.
00:25:24.000So I think men create their value, and if you go out your way to create enough value, you're always going to do better than a lot of the others.
00:25:30.000Yeah, because I've got a theory, and this isn't faking it till you make it, this is just getting the mindsets right.
00:25:34.000Because I've got a theory, and I mean tell me what you think of this, that You don't have to be tight.
00:25:39.000If you lay down your boundaries strongly enough, and you're like, well, fuck it, I'm gonna, yes, I wanna be with you, yes, I wanna have kids, but I'm gonna be fucking other girls, I'm sorry, that's just the way it is.
00:25:48.000If you are that guy, then it's the mindset that, you know, some girls are gonna accept that frame.
00:25:53.000Some girls may not, but some girls will, because the frame is more important than the money and the... Completely right.
00:25:59.000You're right, there are some girls who may not accept it.
00:26:01.000I've had girls who don't accept it, even at my level.
00:26:04.000I've had beauty queens go, oh, I won't have it, da-da-da.
00:26:06.000And I have girls who do who are just as beautiful.
00:26:10.000The only kind of struggle I find when people ask me how I pull it off is I try and explain that a woman shows her love for you via sexual exclusivity.
00:26:39.000So when I first started, when I very first started, I used to say to my girl, yeah, I'm going to fuck other girls, but I won't, I won't, it sounds stupid.
00:27:16.000And they'll go, oh, well, it's his work phone.
00:27:19.000They'll make excuses for the dude, because they know if they look, they're going to see shit they don't really want to see.
00:27:23.000You know, like every chick deep down kind of knows.
00:27:25.000When a guy goes on a stag do to Vegas, every girl kind of knows he's in a club.
00:27:31.000So it's not really too big a jump from them kind of knowing to them actually knowing and just being like, you know, but I don't love them hoes, so don't worry about it.
00:27:41.000And like you said, I mean, that's a very traditional arrangement, isn't it?
00:27:44.000That's been going for centuries in Europe.
00:27:46.000And I suppose the only other, the way that people get around it is to sort of lie about it, basically.
00:27:50.000So they get married and they do that, but they just don't admit it.
00:27:54.000And then they set themselves up, I suppose, because then they get found out.
00:27:57.000And this is the thing, and this is where webcam helped me a lot as well, because I used to say to my girls when we were in the webcam business, I'd say, who's cheating more?
00:28:06.000Like, I'll go to the club, I'll find a hot chick, I'll fuck her.
00:28:10.000Or I'll fuck her, and maybe I'll fuck her again, maybe I'll fuck her again, but I fuck her.
00:28:13.000Or, the guy who comes on and talks to you on webcam when his wife's asleep, sending you money he was gonna take her on holiday with, instead he's sending it to you, telling you he's head over heels in love with you.
00:29:18.000Women have evolved to be a certain way.
00:29:20.000If I'm going to walk through the world and I'm going to say to you, men are a certain way, so this is why I act that way, Then I can't hate on women for doing the same thing.
00:29:29.000So we're saying men are not monogamous.
00:29:31.000I can't hate on women for having a certain mindset.
00:29:34.000Women are ruthless when you no longer have a value to them.
00:29:37.000Women are ruthless if they find someone better.
00:29:39.000That song, These Hoes Ain't Loyal, is completely correct.
00:29:42.000When a rich nigger wants you, and your nigger can't do nothing for you, these hoes ain't loyal.
00:29:48.000And even I understood that with the girl I was head over heels in love with.
00:29:51.000When she was starting to go to this club, I was like, I just have to play my move now.
00:29:54.000Because I ain't going to have a move next week when she's already been partying with champagne and she already has millionaires texting her.
00:30:26.000What you have to do in life is if you can't change the rules to the game, what you have to do is understand the rules so well that they benefit you.
00:30:33.000People talk about hypergaming and how bad it is and girls want the best choice and all this shit.
00:31:07.000Second thing, as for the good and bad girl thing, I don't believe, and this is another thing I argue with the game guys about, I don't believe in BPD.
00:31:15.000I don't believe in girls that have a borderline personality disorder.
00:31:20.000I believe you have, and the reason for this, I'll quickly explain why that is, If you're going to date top-tier women, nines and tens, I'm talking about girls with like a million followers on Instagram and stuff, how the fuck are you going to be 16, with half a million followers on Instagram, and every man in the world, multi-millionaires, desperate to spend time with you, nobody ever telling you you're stupid or wrong, and everyone doting over you, how are you going to live that life and not have a fucking personality disorder?
00:32:25.000You know, you're never gonna find a woman who just instantly, the second you meet her, respects you, loves you, does everything you say, obeys you.
00:32:32.000If you find that kind of girl, and this is my genuine experience, if you find girls that are too easy, in most cases they're fucking hoes.
00:32:38.000Because if they give away respect to men that quick, then they'll give it to a lot of guys.
00:33:17.000And a lot of that's just down to their previous experiences, I think, as women.
00:33:20.000Well, I suppose guys are most concerned about cheating, aren't they?
00:33:23.000So I suppose they're saying you can meet a girl who's going to be less inclined to cheat versus a girl who's going to be more inclined to cheat.
00:33:29.000But I'm guessing your take on that would be it comes down to the guy.
00:33:35.000Yeah, partially it comes down to the guy and partially it comes down to the girl.
00:33:37.000The girl's taking a whole ton of dick.
00:33:39.000Well then there's no stigma attached to taking a new one.
00:33:41.000As soon as you have any kind of trouble, she's like, well, why am I going to sit here and fight and work this out for this dick when there's a new dick out there?
00:33:51.000But also as a guy, I mean, I was always very firm with my relationships and, and like, like I've given that example already, I think the world we live in now is, is designed, not designed, but the, the, the natural, The relationship, which is considered normal nowadays, I think it facilitates women cheating.
00:35:29.000On that note, let's move on to, just to talk about Romania, I was going to talk about that a little bit further on, but just out of interest, how did you, because obviously you were based in the UK, weren't you, originally, and then you were doing kickboxing, UK based, and then you're in Romania and you're doing webcams, so what's the...
00:35:48.000What's the sort of missing links in that story?
00:37:09.000And it's not even just a genetic thing.
00:37:10.000Genetically, they're beautiful, yeah, but if a girl's got nice long hair, perfect fingernails, wearing a dress, goes to the gym every day, and sunglasses on, like, how can you even really be ugly?
00:37:54.000I mean, there's quite a few people on the internet who are sort of like moved to Eastern Europe and particularly from the States because obviously, I mean, in Britain we're a lot nearer so it's slightly less of a massive jump.
00:38:05.000I mean, for various reasons, obviously you've got more attractive girls, you've got a less How do you put it? Invasive culture that you've got here. I mean, do you think this is a good thing for guys to consider doing? I actually don't recommend it to a lot of guys and I'll tell you why. It's the game of women but it's the stakes are turned up.
00:38:26.000So if you're a high-value guy, like if you're a high-value guy in England, you get a lot of girls.
00:38:30.000If you're a high-value guy in Romania, you get a lot of girls.
00:38:34.000But if you're a low-value guy in England, you don't get many.
00:38:37.000If you're a low-value guy in Romania, you get zero.
00:38:39.000It's the game's more, do you know what I mean?
00:38:42.000So the women are more prepared to share a high-level man.
00:38:45.000Which means that high-level men have more women.
00:38:49.000So, like, I look at Roosh, I'm not a fan of Roosh, but Roosh is, he's in Ukraine or Belarus, wherever he is, in his little tiny apartment, selling his e-book, making $500 a month, and he's sitting there complaining he can't find a wife.
00:39:00.000It's because I know Eastern European women.
00:39:03.000I know that they're looking at him going, okay, even if he fucks them, even if he games them, fucks them, after that they're like, okay, so where's the security?
00:40:02.000That they ain't fucking for any other reason.
00:40:04.000So if you're, if you've got those things, if you're, if you're a guy and you're a bit older and you've got some game and you have a little bit of money and a nice apartment, you haven't got to be a millionaire, just basic things and they can see a future with you, you'll get girls.
00:40:14.000If you're some 19 year old who turns up with fuck all, you're trying to live cheap and just run around gaming, you're going to, you're going to be disappointed.
00:40:19.000You're better off in the West where girls are stupid.
00:40:22.000Cause we were in, I was in Russia recently and I mean, it's, it's funny cause my friend Tom was saying, It's actually, guys think it's easy to go East and you'll get laid, but actually it's easy to get laid in London.
00:40:36.000The girls there are smarter, they're more savvy, they want something more from you than just sex, and on top of that, The culture is less degenerated.
00:40:45.000Western culture is completely degenerated.
00:41:54.000Is there a Final Frontier Wild West somewhere in the Balkans though?
00:41:59.000If you go to like, I don't know, there is.
00:42:02.000Like Georgia or... Georgia I've heard good things about, but the things with Georgia is they're semi-Turkish, like it's on the border of Turkey, they've kind of got this strong religious thing.
00:42:11.000The best place to go for girls, I'll tell you, but I'm also gonna tell you everyone to not fucking go, is Moldova.
00:42:54.000So you have to go to the cities to find the girls.
00:42:56.000So me and my brother looked on a map, and we're like, where is there, like, capital cities are always a bad idea because there's too many tourists, and tourists destroy it.
00:43:03.000Like Prague now is finished because there's too many fucking stag dudes.
00:43:07.000Every single Czech girl, if you go and try and talk to her in English, she's like, ah, stag do bye.
00:43:12.000She may have either already slept with a stag do guy and made that mistake once, or she's seen too many of them throw up on themselves, or whatever.
00:43:18.000They're just not interested in your bullshit.
00:43:20.000So you have to go where there's no tourists.
00:43:22.000So we started looking for the second biggest cities in countries.
00:43:25.000And we found this town in Slovakia called Kašice.
00:43:27.000It's the second biggest city and it's five hours drive from any major city.
00:43:32.000So it's five hours drive from Budapest, five hours drive from Krakow, five hours drive from Bratislava.
00:43:36.000So it's in the middle of kind of nowhere and at the time they didn't have an airport.
00:43:39.000So when we used to go there it was genuinely crazy.
00:43:43.000You had to fly to Budapest and get a four and a half hour taxi So, like, when we were going there, everyone was like, what the fuck are you doing?
00:45:13.000Because the men are extremely hostile to foreigners.
00:45:16.000And the reason for that is because they know there is zero reason for you or I to be walking around Moldova if it's not to fuck their girls.
00:45:23.000Now if you're working for 100 euro a month and you see all these Americans coming over trying to pick up all the women and you're struggling to get a girl because these Americans come over and they're rich as fuck, are you going to put up with that shit?
00:45:31.000It's not like, you know, the ties are cupped.
00:45:34.000But in Moldova, when we were there, me and my brother were walking with girls and some Moldovan guy started screaming in Russian to the girls, we understood, why are you the Americans?
00:46:41.000I know, just like Slovakia had its heyday, I do believe that slowly... I think, in fact, no, I think Bucharest is a really unique place.
00:46:49.000I think it's unique for as follows, because I've never met another country full of hot girls where they're patriotic enough they don't want to leave.
00:47:22.000But the girls who want to find a normal life, they actually stay in Romania.
00:47:25.000So it is quite unique for that, and it's definitely worth a visit.
00:47:27.000But, like I said, it's hyper-gaming to the extreme.
00:47:31.000And on top of that all, the thing is with these Eastern European countries, the reason I don't recommend guys to go on holiday and stuff, you've got a kind of land there.
00:47:40.000If you were to come and live for a year, you'd have loads of fun.
00:47:43.000But for the first six months, you'd be like, what the fuck am I doing here?
00:47:46.000Until people know you, until you've been seen around, until you've seen like there's some girls in the club who look like they're on their own but you don't tap on their shoulder because it's that dudes.
00:47:55.000You know like there's those kind of things going on.
00:48:15.000So it's one of those places you have to really make an impact.
00:48:17.000But if you make an impact, it gets a shit ton easier because girls don't care if you have another girl, girls don't care about this, that, but you have to make an impact, you know?
00:50:06.000So I was getting contracts and as long as I met my sales quota just enough, then I was getting all the side contracts on the side and making all the profit.
00:50:14.000So I don't think that, you know, there's nothing wrong with having a job, but you just need to be able to always keep your eyes open if there's some fucking cash, you know?
00:51:58.000But I suppose what we see you doing most on a top line level is the personal brand stuff.
00:52:04.000You've obviously got this very strong personal brand, you're on Twitter, you've got your videos, you're doing podcasts and everything else.
00:52:11.000Now to me, I think personal brand is The way forward, not for everybody, but I think it's a very powerful thing, because if you can build up an audience, if you can build up a following, then you sort of future-proof yourself to an extent.
00:52:25.000Because you've got people who'll listen to you, who'll buy stuff from you, and you can monetise that.
00:52:29.000Now you've done it incredibly successfully, and obviously you keep getting knocked down and you come back up again.
00:52:34.000I think that's something to do with, my theory is two things, I reckon it's because you're unapologetic, so you say whatever the fuck you want to say and people love that, but also you're a really good storyteller as well, so you can tell these stories, you do it on Twitter, you know, telling the stories about your family and everything, but also on Instagram, you know.
00:52:55.000Personal brandings are fantastic, but you just have to make sure you don't get banned, because that's what keeps happening to me.
00:52:59.000But, yeah, personal brand is certainly the way to go, and I think that everyone can... What you have to do if you want to build a personal brand, I believe, is you... People are not as stupid as we say they... Well, it's duality.
00:53:11.000People are morons, and people aren't morons.
00:53:13.000But people are very good at sniffing out, I believe, a fake or a fraud.
00:53:37.000It doesn't matter if you're a florist.
00:53:39.000If you're authentic and they can sense the authenticity, that's where the money is.
00:53:43.000And I think a lot of people Through, I don't think it's on, maybe it's on accident, but a lot of people either hype themselves or they try and change themselves or they learn copywriting and think, well, I need to write this way to sell.
00:53:57.000And a lot of the time they lose authenticity.
00:53:59.000Like, I never think about why I tweet.
00:54:01.000I just fucking just, fuck you, blah, blah.
00:54:17.000Because, I mean, like you say, the personal brand can be many, many different things.
00:54:20.000I mean, you've got a very distinct one, which is based on your personality and your background, but equally, I don't know, I mean, like, you know... There's a whole bunch of people with complete soft personal brands.
00:55:36.000My Facebook is so closely watched, if I say anything even half offensive, I got banned for 60 days for saying that Romanian girls were hotter than English women.
00:55:45.000I said, like, Romanian Tinder is completely different to English Tinder.
00:56:19.000And when you start to get banned from things, it's real.
00:56:22.000It's real, and it comes out of nowhere, and it's frustrating.
00:56:24.000The site goes down because you get a payment processor, they review the site, they agree, they set you up, everything's fine, and then one day you just can't log in.
00:56:30.000And they send you some generic, generic... The email makes no sense.
00:56:37.000We've decided to terminate our relationship, we're apologetic.
00:56:40.000No reasons, it's just everything's just locked out, and you're like, what the fuck's going on?
00:56:45.000Yeah, I mean, you're incredibly well connected as well, so obviously you've done an interview with Paul Joseph Watson, you've been on Infowars, there was a picture with Candace Owens and so on, and even up to the White House itself!
00:57:00.000I think part of that is part of your allure in a way, I think there's this fascinating sort of slightly enigmatic side to you, but I mean, just on a basic level, With that kind of, you know, meeting those kinds of people, getting that kind of influence, is that a side effect of just having money, or is it a testament to your networking skills?
00:57:17.000And if it's, I'm assuming it's probably the latter.
00:57:20.000So if it's the latter, is there any advice you can give to guys who want to start to grow their own influence?
00:57:37.000I want to learn this, I want to learn that, I'll do anything to learn, da da da, and I'm looking at it going, okay, I teach you X, Y, Z, what the fuck do I get?
00:57:45.000And I know this has been said a lot of times, but you have to be able to offer value to people, especially important people.
00:57:51.000I think another mistake people make when networking is, and I know that copywriters will disagree with this, is that they're too long-winded with their messages.
00:57:59.000So I get emails all the time from copywriters trying to get me to agree to let them do my emails.
00:58:03.000And they send me these really long, really properly articulated emails, and I sit there and think, what a waste of time.
00:58:41.000When I first spoke to Paul Joseph Watson, it was when I was verified, so fair enough people saw the message, I messaged him saying, I said, our podcast will break the internet.
00:58:56.000Like, if I would have said, hi, Mr. Watson, my name is this, I'm a kickboxer, and I was thinking maybe, he wouldn't have fucking given a fuck.
00:59:09.000And this is the mistake a lot of people make with networking, I think, is you don't offer value, you're not concise enough, and on top of it all, you're not arrogant enough.
01:01:08.000That's fine, but you still have things to offer.
01:01:10.000You can still be doting, and you can still be loyal, and you can still show tenacity, and you can still want to learn, but you still need to approach it in the right way.
01:01:20.000You can't say, Tate, I really want to be successful like you, so teach me.
01:01:23.000That is completely different to saying, Tate, in exchange for you teaching me, I'm going to make you lots of money.
01:02:21.000I think back in the day when everyone had a Reader's Digest once a week and it was like you'd see some long copy thing in the back, you might read it because they had fuck all else to do.
01:02:28.000But now, of course, it's a different story.
01:02:31.000Two or three seconds is all you've got.
01:02:33.000But I just wonder if, I mean, clearly, you know, Trump, Brexit, Putin, yellow vests.
01:02:39.000There's a lot of shit going on and I think we're all aware on some level that there is a sort of a war of misinformation going on.
01:02:47.000Now this is a very general question and I, you know, I mean answer it in whatever way you want but as somebody who I suspect you probably a little bit more insight into this than the guy in the street, I mean have you got any comment on that at all in terms of what's, what the fuck is going on?
01:04:57.000They castrate the extremes, because people like me, what good am I for the society?
01:05:03.000They want a dude who meets a fucking average-ass wife, has average-ass kids, pays his average-ass taxes, and even though his wife doesn't fuck him, he'll sit there and won't get a divorce, and he'll just sit there jerking off in a sexless marriage, paying for the kids and paying his taxes.
01:05:17.000They don't want dudes like me and you who refuse to listen to anybody.
01:05:22.000And that actually brings me on really nicely to my next question because I wanted to talk about this thing about, because I see you as being the ultimate sort of like Nietzsche kind of Ubermensch, you know, the individual going their own way, etc, etc.
01:05:37.000So, and of course on Twitter and elsewhere, we see a lot of guys who are like, no, but what about the good of society?
01:05:42.000What about Western civilization and blah, blah, blah.
01:05:46.000And you know, I take the piss out of that, but I kind of see where they're coming from.
01:05:49.000But I've always been more individualistic, and I sense that you are as well.
01:05:53.000But how do you see yourself on that balance?
01:05:55.000Because obviously, at the same time, we do owe a debt to society to some extent.
01:06:05.000Firstly, I don't believe you can pour from an empty cup.
01:06:08.000If I want to preach the values and the virtues of masculinity, if I'm going to talk about how important it is that men are men, Well then, I need to be able to show that I'm a man.
01:07:40.000Yes, I would agree with all of that, really.
01:07:42.000So there's three points you've made that I really agree with.
01:07:45.000One is that I don't believe the conspiracy theorists that there's this shadowy elite group because I just don't believe human beings are that organised, to be honest.
01:07:53.000I think if you see in any big corporation, you see behind the scenes, it's a shit show.
01:08:34.000It's just the fact that there's elite and not a few of them, millions of them in different positions around the world, all chasing money to a point where they've just sacrificed all the other things we believe the West needs like honor and valor and borders and all this other stuff.
01:08:48.000Anything that benefits the bottom line, and that's usually globalism, and that's what it is.
01:08:52.000And like you're saying, are we going to stand up against Google?
01:09:40.000Like, so it took a whole bunch of time anyway.
01:09:42.000So you absolutely have to be an individualist to build yourself to even a point of status where you can even make a point anyone's going to listen to.
01:09:49.000And second thing, like you said, you look after yourself, you look after the people directly around you, you try and raise good kids, you try and, you know, have that kind of influence, and that's all I'll do.
01:09:57.000If I die and there's two other versions of Andrew Tate on the planet, two sons, and I've instilled them with my values, then I've done the best I can do.
01:10:03.000I mean, that's my duty to society fulfilled.
01:10:06.000I've reproduced, I've produced sons who aren't little...
01:10:25.000Do you believe that it is essential to reproduce in order to have a meaningful life, or do you think that people can... That's a good question.
01:10:33.000I'm going to say yes, and I'll say yes why.
01:10:35.000One, I think men should reproduce much later.
01:10:38.000I think as a man, you can have kids in your late 30s, early 40s.
01:10:42.000From a political standpoint, Politically, Westerners aren't having kids, so we're being outbred and we're going to be destroyed, but me having a bunch of kids ain't going to fix that, so whatever.
01:11:34.000So now we stay entertained much, much longer.
01:11:36.000And that's the reason people aren't having kids.
01:11:38.000But I do think there is a point, maybe in your 50s, maybe in your 60s, maybe in your 70s, there is going to be a point where you're going to sit and think, okay, I wish there was another version of me.
01:11:46.000I think that is going to happen to everyone.
01:11:47.000I do think that sooner or later, maybe it'll take a long time and different people have different times, but there's going to be a point where you think, you know, I'm not going to live that much longer.
01:12:34.000Like, literally, it hit me within that same day.
01:12:36.000I was like, that you realize that... And it's also, you know, the other things we all know.
01:12:40.000If you're on your deathbed, no one gives a... If you're on your deathbed and you have an hour left, you don't give a fuck about your Lambo.
01:12:49.000And I do, and I don't think... I think a lot of the reason people shy away from having kids is because they don't like the idea of the trad life.
01:15:37.000So I think you should take your time, but I don't see any reason why A man wouldn't want to at least have some kids.
01:15:43.000I understand especially you know in the West it can be difficult and like alimony and all this shit and laws and stuff.
01:15:49.000I kind of get it all but also I kind of believe that if you're a player and you've had enough girls you're gonna meet a girl who's sensible enough.
01:15:57.000Who's not a complete dickhead, and she's gonna understand that the kids are better with you in the life, and that, you know, that you're not a multi-millionaire, but you're gonna give what you can afford, and that you may not last forever, but the children are good, that you both love the kids, and I, you know, I know loads of people who pull that off.
01:18:38.000Everyone out here, if you're listening to this now and you've got fucking problems and stresses and da da da, the reality is your problems aren't real problems.
01:18:49.000There's people with no food to eat, bro.
01:18:51.000Yeah like you know and and and I know it's easy to say and I know it's it's cliche but if you can actually put your life in that perspective I can eat when I'm hungry I can sleep when I'm tired you know I there's more there's more I could have got but I ain't got it but who gives a fuck I'm gonna smile anyway I think that's just the best way to look at life I just think it's all just one big fuck up We're here fucking it up and it is what it is, you know?
01:19:14.000And that, like you say, that to me, that represents a massive opportunity because it's a bit like, well, this is all really, this is all fucking random, you know, and like, like this may never have happened, but how awesome is that?
01:19:23.000Because then you can create your own reality, create your own meaning.
01:19:32.000I said this before that I want to debate them because I find it interesting that we have so many similar worldviews, but with completely different foundational views on how life is.
01:19:41.000These people have foundational views that I simply cannot agree with.
01:19:44.000I do not agree with a life after death.
01:19:45.000I do not agree with having my actions judged.
01:19:48.000And all of these things they believe, I believe zero percent.
01:19:53.000So it would be an interesting podcast sometimes to talk to one of them, but they never do because I think they know that it's going to be difficult to defend a relative perspective.
01:19:59.000But it's difficult, but you know, but it's all a big fucking accident.
01:20:03.000So if you're here on accident, you know, you only get to go around once.
01:20:08.000And if you did get a rerun, if you're on your deathbed, whenever that is, and you think back on your life, the only things you're going to regret is all the time you wasted being in a bad mood.
01:20:19.000You're gonna sit back and think, all the times I stayed in and I was miserable on Friday nights, all the times I argued with that person because I was in a bad mood, all the times I was stressed over that thing, I can't even remember what it was now.
01:20:29.000Like, all the negativity you had, you're gonna think back and think, what the fuck was I doing that for?
01:20:37.000So when I'm in a stressful situation, and trust me bro, I'll say it now on thing, I had a Bitcoin wallet hacked, I lost a quarter of a million last week.
01:20:46.000But literally me and my brother sat there and obviously you're pissed off, but we're like in 10 years from now are we still going to be pissed off?
01:21:17.000I heard you on another show, and I like this idea that you have to say, well, you're going to get over it at some point anyway, so why not just do that now?
01:21:48.000I'm super stoic, but I've trained myself to be that way because I don't see the point.
01:21:53.000I don't see the advantage of just being fucking negative.
01:21:56.000And when I hear people complaining and crying, oh, poor me, I got depression now, blah, blah, blah, I just sit and think, do you think anyone gives a fuck?
01:22:13.000And this is my, when I say earlier about individualism and how I find it as a power, the most powerful thing you can do as a person is wake up and realize no one gives a fuck about me but me.
01:22:21.000Yeah, so I'm going to do it, or no one's going to do it.
01:22:26.000And these are the most powerful people on earth.
01:22:28.000Yeah, and it's weird how you combine, on the one hand, the arrogance, but on the other hand, the humility.
01:22:33.000You've got to have the yin and yang with it, haven't you?
01:22:35.000Absolutely, you've got to realize that.
01:22:38.000In many, many ways, even Donald Trump himself, we're all unimportant.
01:22:42.000We're fucking decaying biomatter, whatever, you know?
01:22:45.000It's like, it is what it is, and I respect people who have fun.
01:22:49.000I said this before, I met a homeless guy when I was in Slovakia, in that town we were talking about earlier, and he was... I was walking around the street, he stopped me, he said, can I have money for vodka?
01:22:58.000And I said, well, that's pretty honest.
01:23:44.000Because what the fuck's the point in doing anything else?
01:23:46.000Another thing I said in one of my videos before, and I'll say it again here.
01:23:49.000I love when people explain all their problems to me and I say, I guarantee you there is someone out there in the world today who would swap lives with you in a second.
01:24:00.000All the problems you've got, all the problems I've got, lost a quarter of a million to Bitcoin, whatever.
01:24:03.000If I were to sit there and someone with terminal cancer who can't walk anymore, Or lost both their legs in a car crash or whatever.
01:24:10.000And you were to say, do you want to swap?
01:24:16.000People would take your place and you're still miserable.
01:24:18.000You got, you got to be able to look outside yourself and think beyond it and realize how, I know it's all cliche bullshit I'm saying, but everyone says this, but no one does it.
01:24:27.000No one sits and actually thinks, fuck, I was hungry and I bought a sandwich and I can eat the sandwich and now I'm not hungry.
01:24:42.000One final point, I guess, to try and wrap everything up in a nice bow, if we can.
01:24:47.000If there's the archetypal guy who's sitting watching this, listening to this, in his mum's basement, and he's there, and he's the ultimate chode, and he can't get girls, he lacks confidence, he wants, you know, he hasn't got any money, etc, etc, and he looks at you and he's like, yeah, but Tate is rich, and he's ripped, and he's like, blah, blah, blah.
01:25:05.000What advice would you give that guy to start to turn things around?
01:25:07.000Right, I'm going to tell him that everything I've already said earlier about no one giving a fuck about him is very important.
01:25:26.000And the second thing you have to understand is, happiness and contentment and girls and money and everything you want in life is at the top of a mountain.
01:25:38.000Because if it's at the bottom, someone else has already scooped it up.
01:25:40.000If there is a girl out there who's 10 out of 10, with big tits, who's slave-like obedience, who's perfectly good-looking, and does everything her man says, and she'll allow you to cheat on her, and she'll live with you in the basement, if that girl exists, someone else has already found her, bro, and she's with him.
01:26:20.000If everyone could have a six pack without work, then a six pack wouldn't mean anything.
01:26:23.000A six pack means something because they know you had to work to get it.
01:26:25.000The adversity is what adds value to it.
01:26:28.000So, my answer to these people is, think of what you want, look at how difficult it is to get, Be happy that it's difficult, because that's the only reason you fucking want it.
01:26:36.000If it was easy, you wouldn't even want it.
01:27:14.000And people, a lot of people are coming around and talking excuses and saying things, but when it comes to taking action, they decide not to take action.
01:27:30.000And that's a good note to end on because obviously your website, you've now got a number of courses, haven't you, that are live and available.
01:27:37.000So you've got the PhD program, you've got how to make money, you've got... I've got a lot of them, yeah.
01:29:02.000And I said, all right, well, if we have 10 or 15 or 20 or 30 guys here all trying to do the same thing, we should all be in the same place talking about it.
01:29:10.000So we have guys near her making money from dropshipping, we have copywriters, we have e-com guys, we have guys who've started following me on webcam, we have guys doing lots of different things.
01:29:16.000We're all in one place and we're all talking constantly and now we have different people helping each other.
01:29:20.000You need a copywriter, you need a website design, you need a Shopify story, there's someone else in the war room already doing what you need and we're all cross helping each other and everyone's starting to like new businesses are appearing and stuff.
01:29:30.000So basically it's a membership to a club, yeah, but it's go-getters.
01:29:40.000You're sitting there and you just play video games and your friends just play video games.
01:29:43.000Well, who's going to break out the mold?
01:29:45.000When you start talking to these dudes and listening to people who are your age or younger doing amazing shit, you might start to do amazing shit yourself.
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