Billy Redhorse, the Gentleman Mystic, is a man who I have admired since I first came across his Twitter account via some retweets that appeared on my feed. He is an exceptionally interesting individual, and does not play by the rules of the game, so speak. His life is very interesting, and I'm going to let him introduce himself, over to you, Mr. Redhorse. God Mode is a podcast where I talk about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I operate from a very simple premise: that if one works very simply within the laws of nature, don't try to do something that Hollywood says is magic. Magic is outside your window, and to be able to touch that is inside one's being. And that is a distinction that when I was a young man, I probably could not have made very clearly, very well. I do not subscribe to the position and belief that suffering and misery is required to accomplish anything in this life worthwhile. I believe that, when it comes down to it, Magic is inside your being, and that is the jumping off point for whatever it is you want in life. And to make that your jumping point for what you desire in life, and how you want to achieve that is within your being. I think we all have a chance to be consistent in our work, and make that a point of being consistent in what we do, and what we want to do with our work. And we can all learn from each other, and we do to make a difference in our lives and in our day-to-day lives, and in the world we live in a way that we can make the most of what we have in this world we can be consistent, meaningful, and have the most fun we can have in the most meaningful way possible. God Mode, God Mode and all that we all can be in this day and day we can do the best we can, and be the best of our day to day life we can. God's got it all, and all of us can have the best day to do what we can in the best way we can and the most important things we have the chance to do, no matter how we do it, and most of the days we have to do it. . God's Day to day. - The Gray Wave Crew - Grey Wave Crew - - and the rest of the crew - "The Old Guys"
00:00:09.000Now, I know you have been waiting a while for this podcast.
00:00:12.000I have been in Las Vegas, I've been in the United States, I've been, you know, all over the place getting work done, interacting in the war room, etc.
00:00:20.000But I preach always in Godmode, my philosophy, living a life that Let's say transcends the rules of reality.
00:00:30.000I very much live a life that a lot of people don't even believe is real.
00:00:33.000That's why I call it God Mode, because it's almost like I have cheat codes on.
00:00:38.000This man who I'm talking to today, Billy Redhorse, the Gentleman Mystic, is a man who I've admired since I first came across his Twitter account via some retweets.
00:01:11.000It's wonderful to finally sit down and have a chat with you.
00:01:14.000We've been talking about this offline in the DMs for a few weeks now.
00:01:21.000I've been very much looking forward to it.
00:01:23.000I think pretty much most folks that are watching us now or that'll watch this on a replay, you know, weeks or months down the road already have some idea of who and what I am about.
00:01:40.000I operate from a very simple premise, and that is this, that yes, work is required to accomplish anything in this life worthwhile.
00:01:50.000I do not, however, subscribe to the position and belief that suffering and misery and sacrifice is required.
00:02:01.000And that is a distinction that when I was a young man, I probably could not have made very clearly, very well.
00:02:12.000To just recognize that if one works very simply within the laws of nature, don't try to do something that Hollywood says is magic.
00:02:55.000Me and my good friend, Chief Chuck Whitworth, Dennis Hines, you know, we're kind of the core of a bunch of old geezers that just We have lived life and experienced life, and oddly enough, I think for the most part, we're all just kind of family guys.
00:03:18.000We're not super rich, but we are incredibly wealthy.
00:03:22.000We're wealthy in experience, we're wealthy in knowledge, and we all seem to have a different Tapestry that we can weave together to make this wonderful, wonderful rug that we can then bring forward and share with folks.
00:03:40.000If you're young and you're on Twitter, by all means, hashtag graywave.
00:03:44.000I think it was you who actually started that.
00:04:08.000Well, there is a stable called the Four Horsemen, but Ric Flair, Arne Anderson, and And I just kind of, when I said, uh, when I said something about gray waves, I said, Oh, this will be a, uh, a, uh, four horsemen for the, uh, for the old guys.
00:04:31.000And then we just took the ball and ran with it.
00:04:32.000I mean, you know, it's, it's just, we've all have acknowledged to when, when we're saying whatever we're saying on Twitter, when we're, when we have the rare opportunity of getting together with people in real life, Look, when we were your age, we wouldn't listen to us either.
00:04:53.000But there was one difference that seems to be consistent between us all.
00:04:57.000We kind of paid attention to our immediate elders.
00:05:01.000But if you had the crazy uncle, the uncle that would pull you off to the side and he'd hand you the firecrackers, he'd hand you the fireworks and say, here, don't blow up the house.
00:05:19.000Whereas your dad has to generally be the one that says, you know, you do the right thing.
00:05:24.000And when you're teaching on Twitter, because you do have a lot to teach, are you trying to be the crazy uncle or are you trying to be the father figure?
00:05:34.000If it was the father figure, it wouldn't work.
00:05:38.000I really don't even specifically try to teach any age group.
00:08:07.000I'm a Scotsman on the other side of the family, so clearly I do like my Scotch, but I have been trying to give my liver a bit of a break this year, because one of the things that getting older I mean, I'm not one of these that says that the older you get, the more you're definitely going to fall apart.
00:08:27.000But one thing I have seen is that it takes time for me to heal things that it didn't take time before.
00:08:34.000I can scratch, get a cut or something on my hand, something that would have scabbed over and been gone in three days, even 10 years ago.
00:08:47.000As a fighter and as a martial artist, sorry, there's a slight delay in the sound, so we keep jumping over each other just a tiny bit, but it's okay, we'll live with it.
00:08:55.000As a fighter and a martial artist, I actually see this myself, even approaching my mid-30s.
00:09:01.000When I was 24, 23, I'd get my ass kicked in the ring, I'd wake up the next morning, go running.
00:09:08.000The injuries and the bruises, they last a bit longer, and everything hurts a little bit more when I wake up in the morning.
00:09:14.000My grandfather used to say, I know you're not, let's not put it in a vulgar way because neither of me or you like vulgarity, which I'll move on to.
00:09:24.000My grandfather used to say, he said, you know, when you're a young man, you wake up and you're only stiff in one place.
00:09:30.000Well, when you get to my age, you're stiff everywhere else, but that place is... Anyway, you get the joke.
00:11:10.000And the very first tenet in Buddhism, across all varieties of it, is the first noble truth being, it's translated generally as, all life is suffering.
00:11:27.000I have never liked that from the moment I heard it.
00:12:02.000And just look for answers and ask questions.
00:12:07.000I, again, I know that suffering exists, but I had to go many years ago.
00:12:13.000I looked over my own life when I was wrestling with this conundrum, and okay, in my life, I have probably, I don't know if I'm completely honest, that I have ever suffered a day in my life.
00:12:31.000Certainly, I have had I have had setbacks.
00:12:37.000I have had events happen that I would never want to have happen again.
00:12:42.000You know when you lose a family member or something like that.
00:12:45.000But as far as it being actual suffering, anytime I've even come close in my life to suffering, I realized that it was a self-inflicted condition.
00:12:54.000And to just hold cloth say that all life is suffering, I have been called a heretic in multiple disciplines and traditions, and at first I resented being labeled that way.
00:14:56.000I did this experiment with a young wannabe hustler who was trying to regurgitate this kind of information to me about, you know, hustle and grind.
00:15:04.000And I said, name something you can do with money besides spend it.
00:15:19.000Why are you working so hard for this number that you look at on a screen if you don't, you know, exchange the number going down for some carnal pleasures, some carnal delights in life, you know?
00:15:30.000Get yourself the more comfortable airline seat, order yourself an expensive dessert, drink expensive Hennessy or Grand Martel.
00:15:41.000Refinement manners and the experience of beauty are the path.
00:15:46.000Now I think I know what you mean by that, but I want you to go into it a little bit.
00:15:50.000Well, uh, I am sitting here before you now wearing a Brooks Brothers shirt, uh, Crockett & Jones shoes that I paid more than some people make in a week.
00:16:02.000Uh, I have a closet full of Brooks Brothers and Crockett & Jones and, uh, Carlos Santos.
00:16:09.000And I'm quite content that if they all disappeared right now, I'm okay.
00:16:17.000I have lived a significant portion of my life wearing jeans that I bought at Walmart and cowboy boots that were certainly not of the highest quality and dollar value.
00:16:32.000But the whole point behind my approach is to To decide what values I have and then live those values.
00:16:46.000I don't need to have 30 pairs of those Crockett & Jones boots.
00:16:53.000I don't need 30 pairs of Lou Casey boots.
00:16:56.000I don't need, and this is not a shot across your bow, I do not need a Chiron.
00:17:09.000Once I learned, for me, what I value, then it became much easier for me to spend money on expensive things and to not fritter away my money on cheap things because I didn't want to spend it.
00:18:09.000But I would look at you and say, what it would cost for me to go down, go about 20 miles away where the local Aston dealership is, for me to have to spend, you know, $5,000 for an oil change.
00:19:14.000So, when the biggest hurdle for most people, especially, and I guess we're going to focus on young guys here, because that's what I keep circling back to.
00:19:24.000You know, I was, you know, in the 70s, I was the same way.
00:19:28.000I had the poster of the Testarossa, you know, up on the wall in my bedroom.
00:19:34.000Everybody wanted, you know, when I got a little older, I wanted a Ferrari Daytona, you know, Miami Vice and all.
00:19:42.000And then, you know, I realized later in life, well, hell, I could go out and buy a drop-top Corvette, and it could look almost just like a Daytona, and it would cost a whole lot less.
00:19:54.000So, you know, the thing that gets a lot of people is that they think, oh, well, all you are is a hedonist.
00:20:05.000No, and I'm running long here, but you know, walk with me.
00:20:09.000There's something very important, and this will This will probably wrap up every other question you've got, and we can just sit and spend the rest of the time talking about good liquors.
00:20:19.000I'm often asked a very run-on question that people will bring to me, and they don't realize that it's actually two questions in one, and that question is this.
00:20:31.000Red Horse, what is the purpose of life?
00:21:12.000That's why we are born into this world.
00:21:16.000If you want to talk about the spirituality of things, you can't know what it is to have a fine cognac, to wake up next to a warm woman or guy, if that's your scene.
00:21:29.000If you're not incarnate and in the flesh, you can't know pain.
00:21:55.000This is the answer that's unique to everybody.
00:21:58.000And it sounds like it's a cop-out, but it's not.
00:22:04.000The meaning of your life is the meaning that you choose to give it.
00:22:08.000So you can either be miserable, being obliged, being a person whose life is accidental, or it can be something that you choose, that you create.
00:22:21.000You know, one of the things that a lot of folks always say when they start waking up a little bit is, I want to discover who I am.
00:22:49.000And that's, like I said, a very profound answer.
00:22:51.000I think a lot of people are going to get a lot of help from this because, I mean, a lot of my audience, in fact, a lot of people on Tate Speech are people who may not have heard of you.
00:22:59.000Young Romanians, Eastern Europeans, British guys who aren't on Twitter, who aren't on the same social networks as us.
00:23:05.000So this is really, I mean, it's making my spine tingle a little bit.
00:23:08.000So we're going to get some love on this podcast, I'm sure.
00:23:13.000So first, I guess last of all, on this little topic, transcendence in this lifetime is possible.
00:23:19.000Now, I don't know, even myself, exactly what you mean by transcendence.
00:23:25.000I could tell you what I think it means, but I'd like to hear... You're the guy who wrote it, and you're the guy who I copy it from, and I now use the word after reading your Twitter page.
00:23:34.000So what exactly do you mean, transcendence is possible?
00:23:39.000Actually, I'm using very much the The dictionary definition of the term to transcend is to go beyond.
00:24:41.000Enlightenment is very simply, and this is where a lot of people can't get their legs around it.
00:24:47.000Enlightenment is basically nothing more than spiritual adulthood, where you grow into who and what it is you have the capacity to be and to become.
00:25:00.000And a lot of people Have that happen, and they never go beyond that.
00:25:04.000They just spend the whole time trying to recreate a moment or a series of moments.
00:25:10.000Because, you know, enlightenment is not a one-time deal.
00:25:19.000And for me, in my experience, an example that I use, I think I may have even written about this on my blog, You and I, once we're done here, through the magic of our imagination, we find ourselves sitting in a fine establishment where you and Andrew have a good reputation, so we know people are going to take good care of us.
00:25:46.000There's a lot of people you know, some people you don't.
00:25:49.000I would lean over to you and say, Mr. Tate, and nudge you on the elbow.
00:26:07.000They don't know what it is that has happened to them.
00:26:11.000Some of them might think that they were having a mental breakdown.
00:26:14.000Uh, some of them might, uh, because they didn't know what it was, they fell back on their, their, uh, childhood mythologies, you know, whether it was Catholicism or, uh, you know, Judaism or Buddhism or whatever it is.
00:27:31.000When I do teach publicly, which has not been for a few years now, and this whole pandemic nonsense has really put a cramp on my style.
00:27:44.000This is the kind of thing that I get together with folks of both genders for up to three to five days at a time, and we just sit and we hash this out.
00:27:57.000Understand what it is to transcend, and it's really not as mysterious as people want to make it out to be.
00:28:07.000Usually the ones who want it to be mysterious are the ones that are wanting to not only make a buck on it, which I don't have a problem with people making a buck on teaching.
00:28:32.000That's what transcendence is, in a very abbreviated nutshell for me.
00:28:38.000To just go out there and live a life of magic.
00:28:45.000You remind me of a much, much, much wiser version of myself, because we share a lot of these... What I call God mode, you call transcendence, almost.
00:28:54.000It's a different thing, and you have wisdom that I am not going to see for another 30 years of my life.
00:29:00.000Because, you know, with age comes wisdom, and there's no two ways around that.
00:29:02.000But yeah, the things you're saying, it just resonated with me so well, because when you're talking about living a moment again and again, it actually broke my heart.
00:29:10.000I was in England last year, and I was catching up with a few friends, one after the other after the other.
00:29:16.000I went out on various, you know, drinks, lunches, etc.
00:30:22.000And because, like you said, the point of living, the reason for my life is to live.
00:30:28.000And then the reason I give myself Uh, you know, to be alive, I guess is the meaning I give myself is just to, just to, you know, enjoy myself and spread happiness and spread positivity and spread joy.
00:30:42.000People don't like me because I can come across that way sometimes, but yeah, I just want to spread positivity and I help people, I approach people.
00:30:50.000One of the things about the two of you, and it's kind of hard to separate Andrew Tate from Tristan Tate, at least on Twitter, the infamous Tate brothers.
00:31:03.000There has been discussions that I have had with people that you may or may not know that have have spoken very highly of the two of you. I don't want to ruin your reputation here now.
00:31:24.000As you said, you and Andrew both are both gentlemen. You tend to be like pro wrestlers when you're in the public. You're taking your personality and turning it up to 20.
00:31:59.000And yeah, there might be times when I go, oh, good Lord, here we go again.
00:32:03.000So I just scroll through something else.
00:32:06.000But then you or both of you will do something and it touches something in me that says, hey, These, you know, okay, they are where they are at their age, where you were at their age, and you know, good for them, they're, they're farther ahead at that age than you were.
00:32:25.000So just let them, let them do what they're doing.
00:32:28.000And it's, I mean, I respect you to like you would not believe.
00:32:34.000And again, some, So many people don't understand.
00:32:39.000You're always talking about manners and very rarely do you even cuss online.
00:32:45.000In this conversation alone, I've already dropped two F-bombs.
00:32:59.000Yeah, this is something I want to move on to because I get criticized a lot for the... I'm not going to talk, and this is not the subject of this podcast, but for the business I used to run.
00:33:08.000And essentially for my lifestyle, I'm very good with women.
00:33:36.000So I always like to have a beautiful woman on my arm.
00:33:38.000I was at the Ballroom Summit in Las Vegas last week.
00:33:40.000I had a beautiful girl next to me almost the entire time.
00:33:42.000Now, they think, some people, they think that to be this way with women and to cycle, I guess, through women and to always be seen with different women, you have to be mean somehow.
00:33:51.000You have to be mean and rude and brash and, you know, and I think it's the complete opposite because I am a gentleman.
00:34:37.000Now, I can give you a list of names of people who I have sat down with that we all do know, that can verify without any hesitation that what you see online from me is who I am.
00:34:56.000You know, like some of the hustlers like to do, they do one thing online and their life is, you know, they're still living at home in mom's basement.
00:35:05.000Not because they want to help mom, but because they can't do anything else. Exactly.
00:35:09.000So, I am a gentleman first and foremost.
00:35:28.000So it's possible for me and for anybody, but there is a comfort and a delight I find in manners in certain formalities.
00:35:41.000I have written extensively on my blog about manners, and this is not some perfunctory etiquette that you have to use this fork and you must always, when you step into a room, step with a certain foot forward.
00:36:11.000And it's a more, and this is going to sound wrong, again, and it may sound like it's a shot across the bow at you, a more gentle form of the warrior. I don't get in fights anymore. If it comes down to I've got to fight somebody, I'm going to shoot them.
00:36:32.000I have plenty of weapons. Never in my life could I do what you have done.
00:36:38.000I don't have an athletic bone in my body.
00:36:42.000And what's funny is when people hear me say that and then they think I'm sandbagging when I go over and can deadlift over 400 pounds.
00:37:05.000With the gentleman aspect, What you see before you now has only manifested in its recognizable form for probably the last six or seven years.
00:37:18.000For the longest time, I traveled with and was an assistant to my adoptive grandfather, White Wolf.
00:37:28.000He's the one who gave me the name Red Horse.
00:37:32.000So I learned at the blanket of one of the best teachers on the planet, as far as I'm concerned.
00:37:40.000But as always seems to happen with student and teacher relationships, there comes a point where it's just like in life, you got to be kicked out of the nest and go do your own thing.
00:37:53.000Well, I did not want to be White Wolf Jr.
00:37:56.000I didn't want people to think that they were getting a lesser copy of my grandpa.
00:38:02.000So I began to, all right, what, based on all the teachers that I've worked with, based on the stories that I've heard from my grandpa, what are the things that resonate most with me?
00:38:14.000And invariably it came back to decorum.
00:38:17.000It came back to, um, one of his teachers in particular was a, uh, a marvelous, um, um, I can't remember if blue hair was, uh, Colombian or Venezuelan.
00:39:08.000So in line with, you know, going back 15 minutes of the meaning that I wanted to create in my life, what, how, how do I want to express this?
00:39:19.000And then that's when gentlemen, mystic, that's both sides of my personality.
00:39:27.000Boom. Yeah. And the Twitter talk, instant brand.
00:39:32.000Yeah. You know, I really wish more Americans were like you.
00:39:36.000Because I think as a European, I see the, when you talk words like chivalry, class, you know, in America, it seems to be sliding down a slope very, very Fast.
00:40:43.000He's robbing everybody at this casino.
00:40:45.000If everyone took it as seriously as me, or like you, and dressed as sharply or as fine as you would or I would, you're benefiting by adding ambiance to this casino that's been here for 75 years, you know, taking people's money.
00:41:01.000And it just, it ruined my mood to see this guy.
00:41:05.000You know, they were serving drinks in plastic cups.
00:41:07.000You know, I'm tipping the waitress $100 for free drinks.
00:41:10.000They bring me over a whiskey and soda and a plastic cup and I just thought, why is America going this way?
00:41:15.000And this is unscripted, I haven't written this down at all, but you're just inspiring me because you're on fire.
00:41:21.000Why do you think class is just slipping in the United States?
00:41:25.000Western Europe too, but you know, if you go to Monaco, to the casino, everyone's in a suit or tuxedo, even today.
00:42:06.000Um, But the thing of it is, it's not, you know, with the members of the gray table, myself, the chief, Dennis Hines,
00:42:18.000Part of the reason that we have explicitly discussed amongst ourselves over some fine whiskey in real life, I will tell you, is that we recognize, okay, it's not our fault individually that the world is in the shithole that it's in right now, but we are still part of our, our generation dropped the ball.
00:42:39.000You know, the hippies, the, uh, the, the, the, You know, everything, there's no responsibility for anything.
00:42:47.000Everything is, you know, free love and, you know, just do what you want to do.
00:42:52.000Yeah, do whatever you want to do and, you know, someone else will come clean up your mess.
00:42:58.000Well, I've never operated, even in my worst times, I've never operated that way.
00:43:03.000And I just refuse to bow out without putting up a fight.
00:43:10.000And again, the youth, most youth of today are not going to, on a good day, they don't want to hear what I have to say.
00:43:18.000But when I start, you know, when I sit down for an interview on YouTube with, you know, Coat and Tie, and this is not a half way, I'm again, crocking Jones boots.
00:43:32.000It's the full deal because, you know, I tell you what, and I'll bet you could confirm this.
00:43:41.000Okay, the guy that was wearing the kit that you were talking about with the t-shirt and sandals and socks, I'd be willing to bet Good money that that man has never experienced what it is to wear fine clothes.
00:43:56.000I'm not just talking about clothes that are clean.
00:43:59.000I'm not just talking about clothes that fit.
00:44:01.000I'm talking about clothes that some human being put their sweat, blood and tears into making.
00:45:36.000Until you've experienced it, and then, and here's the kicker, decide that you're worth it.
00:45:46.000Don't go out and put your future in jeopardy buying stuff that you can't afford.
00:45:54.000Part of the joys of building a wardrobe, from the purely gentleman aspect of it, is to bring things in one piece at a time.
00:46:04.000And to construct something, because you're not only constructing what's in your closet, you're building who you are as a man.
00:46:15.000Be willing to do that and be willing to just go with it.
00:46:22.000Yeah, because I know people, I literally know people who earn per month what this guy was spinning per play of roulette, who dress perfectly fine.
00:47:41.000I wouldn't dare go out in a Brooks Brothers shirt.
00:47:44.000Well, you know as well as I do, Brooks Brothers is an expensive brand generally, but there are shirts out there, Turnbull and Hasser, Frank Foster, and if you want to go with the brand names from Italy, my God!
00:48:13.000All of my jackets, there was a mistake.
00:48:16.000Because I came back from Vegas and half of my tailored clothing and my jackets were clean, but my assistant sent them all away for dry cleaning.
00:48:23.000So today, you certainly win the dress competition, but expect to see some finer clothes on Godmode Podcast in the future.
00:48:32.000I even chased my assistant today and said, where are all my clothes?
00:48:34.000wear all my jackets, all been taken away even though half of them are clean already.
00:48:38.000But God knows. But anyway, the point is in Las Vegas, this loser was doing his thing, he was doing what he was doing. But I don't know if it's, I don't really necessarily want to say I even believe in karma, but I kept winning and I had a beautiful girl on my arm. He kept losing his money, was getting scooped down the hole and I won. So I was... There is such a thing, there is such a thing as karma, but karma is not what most people think it is. You know.
00:49:01.000Karma is not this energy that's like, you walk into a room and, man, this room's got bad karma, man.
00:49:07.000No, karma is very simply a natural law, the law of cause and effect that leads to outcome.
00:49:15.000If you want to, going back to what I was saying earlier about enlightenment, If you wish to experience enlightenment and be an enlightened being, you have to take the steps necessary to become enlightened.
00:49:27.000It is very, very rare that you will just be walking down the hall and suddenly you will be enlightened.
00:49:33.000Some blessed being from on high will reach down and have mercy on you and say, you are enlightened.
00:49:41.000No, you have to do the things required.
00:49:44.000If you want to become a pro fighter, you have to know how to train.
00:49:47.000If you want to be able to deadlift 400 pounds, you can't walk up to the bar and say, I'm going to deadlift 400 pounds if you've never picked up even 150.
00:49:54.000Things have to be done decently and in order.
00:49:58.000And if you do it, there is no guarantee That there's an outcome, the outcome you want is going to happen, but you have a much greater likelihood.
00:50:07.000You would not have won $60,000 if you had not gambled.
00:50:16.000And karma is very much, you know, if you do bad things to other people, people are more likely to do bad things to you back.
00:50:21.000I always say, when I try and explain karma in my way, I say, imagine the entire population of the world is five individuals living in five houses on the same street.
00:50:29.000That's the whole population of the world.
00:50:31.000If you run around being an asshole to everybody, the moment you need help, you know, those are four people who haven't got your back.
00:50:38.000Or, those are four people who will happily stab you in the back, give it half a chance.
00:50:41.000So, you know, putting bad out there is going to bring it back on yourself in that way.
00:52:22.000A lot of guys follow me for dating advice.
00:52:24.000Dating advice, relationship advice, how to meet girls, how to date girls.
00:52:27.000And I always preach being a gentleman.
00:52:29.000Now, you've been, I guess, meeting and dating women since way before I was even born.
00:52:35.000Can you talk a little bit more about being a gentleman and how it translates to, I guess, success in love?
00:52:42.000Maybe looking for a wife, looking for a girlfriend, looking for a lover.
00:52:44.000Can you touch on that a little bit for us?
00:52:47.000There is no one-size-fits-all formula.
00:52:52.000Mr. Tate, when I look back on, even to this day, I find myself looking back on how I carried myself, how I interacted with people, male and female, and I was a class jerk.
00:53:18.000I think one of the worst things that can happen to someone is to either be born into wealth, which I was not, or to be born with an inherent intelligence, high intelligence.
00:53:35.000In the fifth grade, I was identified as They put me in what was called a special abilities and talents class.
00:53:43.000In elementary school, I was taking high school classes.
00:53:46.000By the time I got to middle school, I was doing college level stuff.
00:53:50.000My IQ was tested, if not at genius, it was like one tick down below being official genius level.
00:53:57.000And because things came to me so easily, I didn't do the work.
00:54:28.000And so, you know, I alluded to earlier that I'm still repairing damage this late in life for my youth, and that's kind of what I'm talking about.
00:54:38.000So, you know, revisiting interactions where I thought I was witty and where I thought I was charming, I was being a dick.
00:54:49.000And you know, when I was a young guy, you know, I never did drugs.
00:55:03.000And growing up, and I wasn't, I mean, I certainly, I comported myself in ways then that today would, you know, be frowned upon and you might even, you know, wind up with me with a lawsuit.
00:55:55.000Like I said, you and Andrew both are light years ahead in many ways at your age than I was at that same age.
00:56:03.000But you know, I look at my own behaviors and it's literally, I adapt so fast and I'm learning so fast because for a very long time, The ability to meet women and charm women was very much my job.
00:56:15.000I mean, that's how I recruited women to work on my various websites and webcam studios and that kind of stuff.
00:56:19.000So it was very much a profession, you know, what I was doing.
00:56:23.000I look at myself, I guess, no, I can't really say last year, but certainly when I look two years ago, how I conducted myself on various dates and various interactions or two years before that, or two years before that, you know, the further back in time I look, the more of a dick I see that I've been.
00:56:40.000And I imagine when I, I mean, I hear a lot of women on my own age and younger than me saying men peak at 35, 45, men peak between 35 and 45.
00:57:13.000What are you talking about when men hit their peak at 35 to 40?
00:57:17.000I was talking in the context that these young girls were saying it to me, peak in terms of attractiveness and I guess marriage prospect for them.
00:57:29.000You know, I want to have a family with this guy.
00:57:30.000This guy looks like he has his shit together.
00:57:58.000But you look at some, now I'm not talking about old, decrepit guys that just, they have a young honey on their arm because they have money.
00:58:05.000I'm talking about men that you can look at them, you can see the energy around them.
00:58:10.000You know, the fact that when they walk into a room, everybody knows it.
00:58:40.000And so it's just, it is a, it's absolutely mindset.
00:58:47.000You know, the important thing to understand is that people tend to, when they work on something to do with themselves, they tend to focus on one or two areas.
01:00:47.000So this is, I mean, what do you think of this?
01:00:50.000I mean, I was gonna ask you this because like you said, with the name Mystic, you'd assume that there is more, I don't know, let's call it fantastic, kind of fantastic ideas that you've had.
01:01:02.000I met him once, and I don't know if he told you this story, I was in Atlanta at one of the first ever War Room Summits, and he appeared, I don't know where, and he came to have a drink with us.
01:01:12.000We followed each other on Instagram, and he looked at my Instagram stories, he says, That's the church in Smile, Alabama.
01:01:19.000I just posted a photo of a church, a small white church with a maximum capacity of maybe 30 to 40 people.
01:02:00.000I mean, how would a man as intelligent as you read that?
01:02:07.000Obviously with a name like Red Horse and, you know, having worked for 20 plus years with my half-breed Cheyenne grandpa, you know, people will come up to me, hey, Red Horse, I saw a fox outside my door this morning before we came over here.
01:02:46.000Now, there are times where Spirit is saying something to you, and But yeah, we literally read too much into things.
01:02:55.000The same person that came up to me and asked me about Fox and didn't like my answer, well, they run home and they grab their New Age book about, well, what do foxes mean?
01:03:13.000One of the things that is a fundamental of when I take a student, you know, a close level student, not just someone that happens to come to a one or two day gathering or something like that, is to begin to understand energy and to be able to move it and to read it.
01:03:34.000And that sounds all woo-woo, that sounds all mystical, and yeah, but it's like anything.
01:03:41.000When you know how it's done, I don't want to discount it and say that it's not that big a deal, but it's not that big a deal.
01:03:49.000It's the same thing as being able to digest your food, or if you get sick, your body heals itself.
01:04:47.000And when you begin to see the connections of things, when you begin to see how things interact, and when you begin to actually understand that not everything is guaranteed.
01:04:59.000My teachers and their teachers before them have said that life is 80% pattern and 20% chaos.
01:05:09.000Now that word chaos freaks a lot of people out, so I'll use a more modern term, chance.
01:06:42.000Yeah, we like our fast cars, we like our, we like our other finer things in life, but we do have a philosophy which I believe you share as well, and that is right now I'm 32 years of age.
01:07:25.000I don't intend, as you said, about being born wealthy, because I am now... I guess if I keep going this way, I'm going to turn from quite rich to wealthy within the next five or six years.
01:07:37.000I don't intend to give my kids absolutely anything.
01:07:41.000I intend to leave them with nothing, just like I was left with nothing.
01:07:45.000Jackie Chan once said, when he was told that he was donating all his money to charity, What about your son?
01:07:50.000And his line was, if my son is smart enough, he'll make his own money.
01:07:54.000And if he's not, then he would simply be wasting mine.
01:09:56.000Granted $5 of anything is very different from $50,000 of anything, but it's still that, that ability to be transmuted into Literally anything that money can buy and sometimes for things that money can't buy.
01:11:51.000And I tell everyone, my financial advice is spend half your money as though you're going to die in 40 years and half your money as though you're going to die in 40 days.
01:12:44.000I want to talk a little bit about women.
01:12:49.000A lot of people watch me and they'd like to know what I know about women.
01:12:53.000Now, you have someone, I guess it stems from, of course, being a gentleman, which is the essence of your core, but you tweet sometimes about treating men as though they're gods and women as though they're goddesses.
01:13:04.000And that helps With life, although you discover that many aren't, that helps you get by.
01:13:10.000Now, this isn't necessarily a philosophy that I have, which is why I'm asking you about.
01:13:14.000You know, I don't necessarily, I mean, I'm nice to everybody, but I don't necessarily take it to that level.
01:13:21.000Maybe you could teach me a thing or two.
01:13:22.000Can you kind of touch on that a little bit for the audience, especially when it comes to comes to women?
01:13:29.000I can't make the distinction between the genders in this, because I'm looking at humans as individuals, not just what their plumbing is and their wiring.
01:13:43.000So I'm going to have to defer on that.
01:13:45.000Now, as to what my intention is when I wrote that.
01:13:52.000Just like with trying to live my life as a gentleman every moment I'm awake and when I'm asleep, it doesn't always work.
01:14:02.000Especially with a lot of what I see in the world, especially in the last 11 months, how people are comporting themselves, how they're acting, how they are throwing all logic and good sense out the door because some authority figure tells them to do this or that.
01:14:22.000My good graces with my fellow man and woman are being tested sorely these days.
01:14:34.000So not everybody is being treated as a god and a goddess.
01:14:44.000When I can let something as ultimately as insignificant as The way I see someone acting impact me, that's a sign that I need to go back to my space and get my shit together.
01:15:02.000If I'm going to be hit with a punch, I want to know that it's one coming straight at me, not one that hits me off to the side, or get rabbit punched or something.
01:15:11.000So the intent of that philosophy, and when I actually shared it with the world, This ties in heavily with the concept of respect and dignity.
01:15:25.000I've done a short little video in the past on my position on respect and a lot of people would think because I put such weight on kindness and being a gentleman and manners and refinement that I think everyone should be respected equally.
01:16:04.000It's earned through what your character reveals to those around you.
01:16:14.000So there are far more people on this planet that I don't respect than there are people that I do respect for that very reason.
01:16:24.000Now, there is a possibility for me that if I interact with people, okay, is it possible to treat someone like a god or a goddess that you don't respect?
01:17:26.000So take that and amplify it to the level of being kind, from being kind to someone, to seeing.
01:17:34.000It's a concept in many Eastern spirituality traditions.
01:17:42.000You may have heard the term namaskar or namaste, which means I bow to the spirit of divinity that I see in you.
01:17:55.000What you see in someone that you like, what you see in me that you like, Mr. Tate, are things that are in you.
01:18:03.000If you were to be around me for any length of time and find something about me that you didn't like, it would be something in you that you recognize.
01:19:36.000So listen, I could do this all night, but I've got two more questions for you.
01:19:40.000The last one, I'm going to say, I may be setting myself up for public embarrassment, but that's perfectly fine.
01:19:46.000The first question I'm going to ask you, because I'm getting lots and lots of questions here on the chat, but it's all essentially, it boils down to one thing.
01:19:55.000So I know you guys have asked a bunch of questions, but we could be sitting here for the next three or four hours.
01:20:01.000And to make this podcast possible, so that it was a good time for you Americans to watch and you Europeans, it's now 1.20 in the morning.
01:20:07.000I'm sitting up at my computer by myself.
01:20:43.000There have been different variations of this exercise used across disciplines.
01:20:51.000If you could go back in time and talk to your 20-year-old self, what would you say?
01:20:57.000Well, even if I knew it was me, I wouldn't listen to me.
01:21:00.000I mean, if I told myself, you know, buy Apple stock, or if you run into a couple of guys named Tate, you might want to hook up with them, you know, sooner.
01:21:10.000A better way of doing that, and it's a challenge, it's not a gimme, you have to work at it for it to work.
01:21:23.000I would suggest to all the young men and maybe even the several, however many young women that might encounter this discussion at some point, sit down and don't think of what would the future you say to you about right now.
01:21:43.000If you could go back in time and say something to your younger self, do the reverse.
01:21:47.000If Tristan Tate, at 32 now, could actually sit down and talk to the 60-year-old Tristan Tate, what would the 60-year-old Tristan Tate tell the 32-year-old?
01:22:38.000What if the words you're hearing, and I'm speaking to you, Tristan, what if the words you're hearing right now are actually the words that you would say to yourself if you could do this exercise?
01:22:48.000Do you get the gist of where I'm going with this?
01:22:50.000Well, this perfectly leads on, and I said I was going to set myself up for whatever kind of public grilling I may get.
01:22:56.000This actually perfectly leads on to my final question that I was going to ask you.
01:23:02.000What advice, from what you know about me, how I live my life, What advice would you give to me about how I live, how I act?
01:23:43.000Our culture and society, as we basically started this discussion, is on the downturn.
01:23:52.000And they haven't been taught things that were given even as recently as 50 years ago.
01:24:00.000They're going to see you with The hoes, they're going to see you with the cars, and they are going to rightly or wrongly take something from that that perhaps you have not intended.
01:24:17.000Now I'm not telling you to not have the beautiful women.
01:24:20.000I'm not telling you to change your occupation.
01:24:23.000I'm not telling you to not have the cars.
01:24:25.000I am absolutely not telling you to not enjoy good cognac and good scotch.
01:25:28.000Don't, you know, don't be a general that's at the back.
01:25:30.000And I'm not saying that I think you are.
01:25:34.000You put yourself out there, go more out there, but just recognize that there are people out there watching you.
01:25:43.000And you can say, this glass is empty, and you can hold up the empty glass, and there will be some potential troll, some sick person, some person that is just not getting it, that would make an argument about the fact, well, it's not empty there, it's full of air.
01:26:04.000I mean, I put out a tweet today that I'm becoming more and more vocal in my distaste for masks and for the just kowtowing that people are doing.
01:27:02.000And back to my point about the empty glass, I put out a tweet today talking about the young men that 75 years ago stormed the beaches of Normandy.
01:27:54.000It is very rare that I will ever compose a tweet, send out an email, write a blog post, anything, without sitting on it and thinking, all right, what possible way could this be misinterpreted?
01:28:34.000Live your life as elegantly and concisely as possible.
01:28:39.000Well, Mr. Billy Redhorse, thank you very much.
01:28:42.000This has been absolutely mind-blowing.
01:28:46.000These podcasts are supposed to be an hour.
01:28:47.000I don't think they ever will be with my guests.
01:28:49.000We've been an hour and a half into the show.
01:28:52.000I don't think anybody who's watched this, there's about 250 to 300 people watching live at this moment, a lot more people are going to see this.
01:29:00.000I think everyone has something to take away from this conversation and everyone hopefully has learned something.
01:29:05.000Do you want to just end the show by telling everybody where they can find you?
01:29:09.000Because you've made a lot more fans today, believe me.
01:29:13.000Well, I certainly hope so and hopefully if I have made any enemies, they will be good enemies.
01:29:22.000I can be found at GentlemanMystic.com, TheGentlemanMystic.com, of course Twitter at Billy Red Horse, Instagram at Billy Red Horse.
01:29:35.000Because of all of the craziness going on in the social media world right now with I do not.
01:29:42.000Even as anodyne as I can be, the way I post stuff, the fact that I am getting a little more agitated about masks gives me cause to think that I'm on the radar, too, about possibly being chopped.
01:29:57.000So I have opened up an account, as you well know, Tristan, at Gab.
01:30:02.000It's another outfit, and that's also Billy Red Horse.
01:30:43.000But, you know, hopefully when things return to some level of normalcy, I'll be able to get back out and start teaching.
01:30:51.000And certainly, if the War Room ever shows back up in Atlanta, you know, I'd love to be an invited guest just to sit in and, you know, meet the fellas.
01:31:00.000Because, I mean, I know, obviously, I know AJ, Mr. Cortez, I know Moneybag, Mr. Dillon, all the crew.