Tate Speech - August 18, 2022


Interview: Tristan Tate & Billy Red-Horse

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Andrew Tate Tristan Tate
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Billy Red Horse Billy Redhorse Chuck Whitworth Dennis Hines Harry Potter Alex Antonio Banderas Young Romanians Liv's Talisman Arne Anderson Grand Marnier Carlos Santana Frank Foster Martin DB9S Tate Speech Jackie Chan Twitter DMS White Wolf James Bond Ric Flair and 16 more
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Billy Redhorse, the Gentleman Mystic, is a man who I have admired since I first came across his Twitter account via some retweets that appeared on my feed. He is an exceptionally interesting individual, and does not play by the rules of the game, so speak. His life is very interesting, and I'm going to let him introduce himself, over to you, Mr. Redhorse. God Mode is a podcast where I talk about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I operate from a very simple premise: that if one works very simply within the laws of nature, don't try to do something that Hollywood says is magic. Magic is outside your window, and to be able to touch that is inside one's being. And that is a distinction that when I was a young man, I probably could not have made very clearly, very well. I do not subscribe to the position and belief that suffering and misery is required to accomplish anything in this life worthwhile. I believe that, when it comes down to it, Magic is inside your being, and that is the jumping off point for whatever it is you want in life. And to make that your jumping point for what you desire in life, and how you want to achieve that is within your being. I think we all have a chance to be consistent in our work, and make that a point of being consistent in what we do, and what we want to do with our work. And we can all learn from each other, and we do to make a difference in our lives and in our day-to-day lives, and in the world we live in a way that we can make the most of what we have in this world we can be consistent, meaningful, and have the most fun we can have in the most meaningful way possible. God Mode, God Mode and all that we all can be in this day and day we can do the best we can, and be the best of our day to day life we can. God's got it all, and all of us can have the best day to do what we can in the best way we can and the most important things we have the chance to do, no matter how we do it, and most of the days we have to do it. . God's Day to day. - The Gray Wave Crew - Grey Wave Crew - - and the rest of the crew - "The Old Guys"

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00:00:01.000 Gentlemen joining me around the world.
00:00:03.000 I say gentlemen because I know I can conduct a largely male audience.
00:00:07.000 Welcome to Godmode episode 2.
00:00:09.000 Now, I know you have been waiting a while for this podcast.
00:00:12.000 I have been in Las Vegas, I've been in the United States, I've been, you know, all over the place getting work done, interacting in the war room, etc.
00:00:20.000 But I preach always in Godmode, my philosophy, living a life that Let's say transcends the rules of reality.
00:00:30.000 I very much live a life that a lot of people don't even believe is real.
00:00:33.000 That's why I call it God Mode, because it's almost like I have cheat codes on.
00:00:38.000 This man who I'm talking to today, Billy Redhorse, the Gentleman Mystic, is a man who I've admired since I first came across his Twitter account via some retweets.
00:00:48.000 That appeared on my feed.
00:00:49.000 He is a exceptionally interesting individual, and he also does not, let's say, play by the rules of the game, so to speak.
00:00:58.000 His life is very, very interesting.
00:01:00.000 I'm gonna let him introduce himself.
00:01:02.000 Over to you, Mr. Billy Redhorse.
00:01:06.000 Thank you, Mr. Tate.
00:01:07.000 It is, as I mentioned, off-screen.
00:01:11.000 It's wonderful to finally sit down and have a chat with you.
00:01:14.000 We've been talking about this offline in the DMs for a few weeks now.
00:01:21.000 I've been very much looking forward to it.
00:01:23.000 I think pretty much most folks that are watching us now or that'll watch this on a replay, you know, weeks or months down the road already have some idea of who and what I am about.
00:01:40.000 I operate from a very simple premise, and that is this, that yes, work is required to accomplish anything in this life worthwhile.
00:01:50.000 I do not, however, subscribe to the position and belief that suffering and misery and sacrifice is required.
00:02:01.000 And that is a distinction that when I was a young man, I probably could not have made very clearly, very well.
00:02:12.000 To just recognize that if one works very simply within the laws of nature, don't try to do something that Hollywood says is magic.
00:02:24.000 Magic is outside your window.
00:02:25.000 Magic is inside one's being.
00:02:29.000 And to be able to touch that and to Make that your jumping off point for whatever it is you want in life.
00:02:39.000 Whether you want the supercars that you and your brother have, or whether you're like me, I'll be turning 60 this year.
00:02:48.000 And, you know, part of my crew, you've got the hyper car crew.
00:02:53.000 Well, I've got the gray wave crew.
00:02:55.000 Me and my good friend, Chief Chuck Whitworth, Dennis Hines, you know, we're kind of the core of a bunch of old geezers that just We have lived life and experienced life, and oddly enough, I think for the most part, we're all just kind of family guys. 0.97
00:03:18.000 We're not super rich, but we are incredibly wealthy.
00:03:22.000 We're wealthy in experience, we're wealthy in knowledge, and we all seem to have a different Tapestry that we can weave together to make this wonderful, wonderful rug that we can then bring forward and share with folks.
00:03:40.000 If you're young and you're on Twitter, by all means, hashtag graywave.
00:03:44.000 I think it was you who actually started that.
00:03:51.000 Yeah, that was an accident.
00:03:52.000 It was right around, I think, the anniversary of my first year on Twitter, and I just said something about Grey waving in it.
00:04:00.000 I don't know if you're familiar with professional wrestling, especially professional wrestling going back to the mid-80s or 90s.
00:04:06.000 I am, actually.
00:04:07.000 I am.
00:04:07.000 I used to watch it back in the day.
00:04:08.000 Well, there is a stable called the Four Horsemen, but Ric Flair, Arne Anderson, and And I just kind of, when I said, uh, when I said something about gray waves, I said, Oh, this will be a, uh, a, uh, four horsemen for the, uh, for the old guys.
00:04:29.000 And it just kind of stuck.
00:04:31.000 And then we just took the ball and ran with it.
00:04:32.000 I mean, you know, it's, it's just, we've all have acknowledged to when, when we're saying whatever we're saying on Twitter, when we're, when we have the rare opportunity of getting together with people in real life, Look, when we were your age, we wouldn't listen to us either.
00:04:53.000 But there was one difference that seems to be consistent between us all.
00:04:57.000 We kind of paid attention to our immediate elders.
00:05:01.000 But if you had the crazy uncle, the uncle that would pull you off to the side and he'd hand you the firecrackers, he'd hand you the fireworks and say, here, don't blow up the house.
00:05:13.000 Don't hurt yourself. 0.87
00:05:14.000 Go make some noise.
00:05:16.000 Have some fun.
00:05:17.000 But, you know, just be careful.
00:05:19.000 Whereas your dad has to generally be the one that says, you know, you do the right thing.
00:05:24.000 And when you're teaching on Twitter, because you do have a lot to teach, are you trying to be the crazy uncle or are you trying to be the father figure?
00:05:34.000 If it was the father figure, it wouldn't work.
00:05:38.000 I really don't even specifically try to teach any age group.
00:05:47.000 We all have our niches.
00:05:50.000 I'm not the guy that you learn from all of my wonderful successes. 0.93
00:05:55.000 I teach from the point of the things that I've fucked up in my life.
00:05:59.000 I have made so many screw-ups.
00:06:01.000 To this day, I'm still fixing things and attitudes within myself that I planted and ingrained in myself.
00:06:13.000 everything from a teenager all the way until my...
00:06:15.000 Hell, almost until my mid-30s.
00:06:19.000 Your mid-30s.
00:06:20.000 So it took...
00:06:22.000 I'm approaching that now.
00:06:24.000 And I know exactly what you're feeling.
00:06:27.000 Man, I'm coming up on this.
00:06:29.000 I've been around a while.
00:06:33.000 I'm old.
00:06:35.000 I will not discount that.
00:06:39.000 Because you have lived.
00:06:40.000 You have lived a lot and you have more yet to live.
00:06:44.000 But I love to give a little measure whenever I'm talking to somebody about this.
00:06:50.000 Okay, so 20 years ago, you were how old?
00:06:56.000 Or 10?
00:06:56.000 12?
00:06:56.000 12.
00:06:56.000 12. 20 years ago I was 39. So I've been around a while.
00:07:06.000 You're a good point.
00:07:06.000 And I know what I'm talking about.
00:07:08.000 And again, you know, you can tell somebody until they're blue in the face, you know, don't jump off the house.
00:07:14.000 You're going to hurt yourself.
00:07:15.000 Don't jump off until you jump off the house or until you see a buddy of yours jump off the house first and then, you know, break his leg.
00:07:24.000 Then you don't.
00:07:25.000 Yeah.
00:07:28.000 Yeah.
00:07:29.000 And I don't begrudge anybody, you know, doing that.
00:07:35.000 You gotta put your hand in the fire and see how hot it is.
00:07:37.000 Now, this is completely unplanned.
00:07:39.000 What are you drinking?
00:07:40.000 Because on episode one of the God Mode podcast, I was drinking a Johnny Walker Blue Label.
00:07:45.000 Today, it's a Hennessey Paradise Cognac, but you just by pure coincidence are drinking as well.
00:07:51.000 We are close then.
00:07:53.000 I am drinking Grand Marnier.
00:07:55.000 Oh, almost the same drink, slightly different glass.
00:07:58.000 Yeah, no, cheers to you!
00:07:59.000 Completely on plan, but I feel a drink makes a conversation flow a little bit better.
00:08:02.000 Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
00:08:07.000 I'm a Scotsman on the other side of the family, so clearly I do like my Scotch, but I have been trying to give my liver a bit of a break this year, because one of the things that getting older I mean, I'm not one of these that says that the older you get, the more you're definitely going to fall apart.
00:08:27.000 But one thing I have seen is that it takes time for me to heal things that it didn't take time before.
00:08:34.000 I can scratch, get a cut or something on my hand, something that would have scabbed over and been gone in three days, even 10 years ago.
00:08:42.000 Now it takes a week.
00:08:43.000 It takes 10 days.
00:08:47.000 As a fighter and as a martial artist, sorry, there's a slight delay in the sound, so we keep jumping over each other just a tiny bit, but it's okay, we'll live with it.
00:08:55.000 As a fighter and a martial artist, I actually see this myself, even approaching my mid-30s. 0.90
00:09:01.000 When I was 24, 23, I'd get my ass kicked in the ring, I'd wake up the next morning, go running. 0.96
00:09:06.000 Now, it's not quite the same. 0.98
00:09:08.000 The injuries and the bruises, they last a bit longer, and everything hurts a little bit more when I wake up in the morning.
00:09:14.000 My grandfather used to say, I know you're not, let's not put it in a vulgar way because neither of me or you like vulgarity, which I'll move on to.
00:09:24.000 My grandfather used to say, he said, you know, when you're a young man, you wake up and you're only stiff in one place.
00:09:30.000 Well, when you get to my age, you're stiff everywhere else, but that place is... Anyway, you get the joke.
00:09:37.000 Oh, yes.
00:09:38.000 And I can verify, sadly, but true. 0.91
00:09:42.000 But that doesn't mean it doesn't work.
00:09:44.000 Exactly.
00:09:45.000 Well, you know, time is the fire in which we all burn, so we're all on the same path here.
00:09:49.000 Right.
00:09:50.000 I want to jump right in at the deep end.
00:09:51.000 There is a quotation that is on your Twitter profile.
00:09:56.000 Now, it's by you, of course.
00:09:58.000 If you don't follow at Billy Redhorse, the Gentleman Mystic, please check out his page and follow him immediately.
00:10:04.000 It's a life of delight is the goal.
00:10:07.000 Refinement manners and the experience of beauty are the path.
00:10:10.000 Transcendence in this lifetime is possible.
00:10:13.000 Now, I like that so much.
00:10:14.000 I actually stole it from you and I put it on one of my Instagram photos, but I credit it to you.
00:10:18.000 It's not stealing of your credit.
00:10:19.000 Yes, you did.
00:10:20.000 I'd like to break that down a little bit because I think it gives a real insight into who you are as a person.
00:10:25.000 So if we were to break it down into three segments, a life of delight is the goal.
00:10:32.000 What exactly do you mean by that?
00:10:33.000 And what can people follow me and, you know, expect to learn from that?
00:10:39.000 Mr. Tate, it goes back to what I said, you know, opening, especially among the young hustlers.
00:10:50.000 You lose sleep.
00:10:51.000 You have to grind and grind and grind and grind.
00:10:55.000 And there's pain, there's suffering.
00:10:58.000 I come from a very eclectic spiritual background, part of which I'm actually ordained as a Zen Buddhist teacher.
00:11:08.000 Through the Soto tradition.
00:11:10.000 And the very first tenet in Buddhism, across all varieties of it, is the first noble truth being, it's translated generally as, all life is suffering.
00:11:27.000 I have never liked that from the moment I heard it.
00:11:30.000 Because I know it's not true.
00:11:32.000 It is not true.
00:11:36.000 I will give and acknowledge that suffering exists.
00:11:41.000 And as I mentioned earlier, I look to nature for things.
00:11:45.000 If I ever want verification on something, I will go out and sit with a tree.
00:11:51.000 I'll go for a walk.
00:11:53.000 I'll go be by a body of hopefully moving water, rather than still water.
00:11:58.000 But even still, there's wisdom there.
00:12:02.000 And just look for answers and ask questions.
00:12:07.000 I, again, I know that suffering exists, but I had to go many years ago.
00:12:13.000 I looked over my own life when I was wrestling with this conundrum, and okay, in my life, I have probably, I don't know if I'm completely honest, that I have ever suffered a day in my life.
00:12:31.000 Certainly, I have had I have had setbacks.
00:12:36.000 I have had pain.
00:12:37.000 I have had events happen that I would never want to have happen again.
00:12:42.000 You know when you lose a family member or something like that.
00:12:45.000 But as far as it being actual suffering, anytime I've even come close in my life to suffering, I realized that it was a self-inflicted condition.
00:12:54.000 And to just hold cloth say that all life is suffering, I have been called a heretic in multiple disciplines and traditions, and at first I resented being labeled that way.
00:13:12.000 Now I cling to it.
00:13:13.000 It's a badge of pride for me, because I do my own thinking.
00:13:18.000 I don't need someone else to think for me and to tell me that this is the only way to X, fill in the blank.
00:13:25.000 So, you know, the very simple thing of, it is possible to enjoy life, to create the kind of life that I want, and to not suffer.
00:13:37.000 And I want people to know that.
00:13:38.000 Yeah, I'm far less of a, you know, that may be one of the most profound things ever said on any YouTube broadcast.
00:13:44.000 And I want you guys to play that back and repeat it if you're watching this a second time.
00:13:48.000 To quote, he said, Every time I found myself suffering, I realized it was a condition that was self-inflicted.
00:13:56.000 Now that, that is very, very deep.
00:13:58.000 Now me, I know exactly the type of people you're talking about.
00:14:02.000 Dude, two hours sleep, wake up, take a cold shower, grind, grind, blah, blah, blah, you know?
00:14:06.000 And they preach as though, you know, it's a massive uphill struggle that never ends and you can't help.
00:14:11.000 I mean, my life is all about, you know, after I, especially after I made my first million when I was 28, it's all about pleasure.
00:14:19.000 I mean, I could make five times more money if I had the mindset that didn't allow me to enjoy my life.
00:14:27.000 My life is absolutely amazing.
00:14:28.000 I eat big, fat, juicy steaks with my brother every lunchtime and every dinnertime.
00:14:32.000 I often wake up next to an extremely beautiful woman. 0.94
00:14:35.000 I drive my cars around.
00:14:36.000 I feel the sun on my face.
00:14:39.000 People preach this negative attitude, and that's what I really like.
00:14:43.000 The stuff that you are, you know, let's say preaching.
00:14:46.000 Let's say preaching on Twitter.
00:14:47.000 It's certainly the stuff you're writing about.
00:14:48.000 And it always resonated with me from the second I found your page because that's what life is for.
00:14:54.000 Life is for enjoying.
00:14:56.000 I did this experiment with a young wannabe hustler who was trying to regurgitate this kind of information to me about, you know, hustle and grind.
00:15:04.000 And I said, name something you can do with money besides spend it.
00:15:08.000 And he said, save it?
00:15:09.000 I said, no, no, no.
00:15:10.000 Inaction is not action.
00:15:11.000 That's like saying, what can you do with a car and not drive it?
00:15:13.000 It doesn't count.
00:15:14.000 Name something you can do with money besides that.
00:15:16.000 And he was like, oh, I can't think of anything.
00:15:17.000 I said, well, that's what it's for.
00:15:19.000 Why are you working so hard for this number that you look at on a screen if you don't, you know, exchange the number going down for some carnal pleasures, some carnal delights in life, you know?
00:15:30.000 Get yourself the more comfortable airline seat, order yourself an expensive dessert, drink expensive Hennessy or Grand Martel.
00:15:35.000 This is what life is about.
00:15:37.000 And I absolutely love you for that.
00:15:39.000 So that moves us on to line two.
00:15:41.000 Refinement manners and the experience of beauty are the path.
00:15:46.000 Now I think I know what you mean by that, but I want you to go into it a little bit.
00:15:50.000 Well, uh, I am sitting here before you now wearing a Brooks Brothers shirt, uh, Crockett & Jones shoes that I paid more than some people make in a week.
00:16:02.000 Uh, I have a closet full of Brooks Brothers and Crockett & Jones and, uh, Carlos Santos.
00:16:09.000 And I'm quite content that if they all disappeared right now, I'm okay.
00:16:15.000 I'm quite alright.
00:16:17.000 I have lived a significant portion of my life wearing jeans that I bought at Walmart and cowboy boots that were certainly not of the highest quality and dollar value.
00:16:32.000 But the whole point behind my approach is to To decide what values I have and then live those values.
00:16:46.000 I don't need to have 30 pairs of those Crockett & Jones boots.
00:16:53.000 I don't need 30 pairs of Lou Casey boots.
00:16:56.000 I don't need, and this is not a shot across your bow, I do not need a Chiron.
00:17:05.000 A great example for my mindset.
00:17:09.000 Once I learned, for me, what I value, then it became much easier for me to spend money on expensive things and to not fritter away my money on cheap things because I didn't want to spend it.
00:17:23.000 Perfect example.
00:17:24.000 My dream car is a 2009 Aston Martin DB9S or DB9GT.
00:17:29.000 And it, oh God.
00:17:37.000 To me, the most beautiful car on the planet.
00:17:40.000 Period.
00:17:40.000 I'm sorry.
00:17:41.000 I know y'all have at least one Aston between you.
00:17:44.000 My favorite car is my Aston.
00:17:45.000 It's very similar to the DB9 in looks.
00:17:47.000 I'll take it.
00:17:48.000 So the DB9.
00:17:49.000 Now, if you, out of the graciousness of your heart, you and your brother were to come over here and say, Red Horse, we really like you.
00:17:58.000 You're crazy, but we like you.
00:18:00.000 Here, we are bringing you a gift of a DB9. 0.97
00:18:05.000 I would be floored.
00:18:06.000 I would be so grateful.
00:18:07.000 I would be so appreciative.
00:18:09.000 But I would look at you and say, what it would cost for me to go down, go about 20 miles away where the local Aston dealership is, for me to have to spend, you know, $5,000 for an oil change.
00:18:24.000 Yeah.
00:18:25.000 $1,000 for a tire.
00:18:26.000 Yeah.
00:18:26.000 Believe me, I know this pain.
00:18:28.000 For me, even I mean, maybe if I had tape money, I would do it.
00:18:37.000 But I probably wouldn't.
00:18:39.000 I would be much, much happier with... I don't know, maybe about a... I'm thinking out loud here.
00:18:51.000 With probably a tricked out Ford F-150 pickup.
00:18:55.000 Yeah, and that sets you down to the T as well.
00:18:58.000 And just, and you know, not from the country boy perspective, but just it's a good, reliable piece of equipment.
00:19:09.000 It fits more in line with my values.
00:19:12.000 Yeah.
00:19:14.000 So, when the biggest hurdle for most people, especially, and I guess we're going to focus on young guys here, because that's what I keep circling back to.
00:19:24.000 You know, I was, you know, in the 70s, I was the same way.
00:19:28.000 I had the poster of the Testarossa, you know, up on the wall in my bedroom.
00:19:34.000 Everybody wanted, you know, when I got a little older, I wanted a Ferrari Daytona, you know, Miami Vice and all.
00:19:39.000 Oh yeah, Crockett's got one of those.
00:19:40.000 That's a beautiful car.
00:19:42.000 And then, you know, I realized later in life, well, hell, I could go out and buy a drop-top Corvette, and it could look almost just like a Daytona, and it would cost a whole lot less.
00:19:54.000 So, you know, the thing that gets a lot of people is that they think, oh, well, all you are is a hedonist.
00:20:01.000 All you want is sensate things.
00:20:05.000 No, and I'm running long here, but you know, walk with me.
00:20:09.000 There's something very important, and this will This will probably wrap up every other question you've got, and we can just sit and spend the rest of the time talking about good liquors.
00:20:17.000 Absolutely.
00:20:18.000 I love that.
00:20:19.000 I'm often asked a very run-on question that people will bring to me, and they don't realize that it's actually two questions in one, and that question is this.
00:20:31.000 Red Horse, what is the purpose of life?
00:20:36.000 What is the meaning of my life?
00:20:38.000 Like I said, that's actually two questions.
00:20:39.000 It's not one.
00:20:41.000 So you take that question and divide it right down the middle.
00:20:45.000 The first question, the answer is the same for every person that has ever lived, ever will live.
00:20:50.000 The second question, the answer is unique to every person that ever lived or ever will live.
00:20:55.000 Okay.
00:20:56.000 Again, the original question was, uh, what is, you know, what's the purpose of life?
00:21:01.000 What is the meaning of my life?
00:21:02.000 All right.
00:21:02.000 Cut it in half.
00:21:04.000 Question number one, what is the purpose of life?
00:21:08.000 The purpose of life is to live.
00:21:10.000 That's it.
00:21:12.000 That's why we are born into this world.
00:21:16.000 If you want to talk about the spirituality of things, you can't know what it is to have a fine cognac, to wake up next to a warm woman or guy, if that's your scene.
00:21:29.000 If you're not incarnate and in the flesh, you can't know pain.
00:21:34.000 You can't know pleasure.
00:21:35.000 You can mentally be cognizant of it, but you can't experience it.
00:21:41.000 So, very simply, the purpose of life is to live.
00:21:43.000 That's for humans.
00:21:44.000 That's for beavers. 1.00
00:21:46.000 It's for bugs.
00:21:48.000 It's for fishes.
00:21:49.000 It's for trees.
00:21:50.000 Everything.
00:21:52.000 Question number two, then.
00:21:53.000 What is the meaning of my life?
00:21:55.000 This is the answer that's unique to everybody.
00:21:58.000 And it sounds like it's a cop-out, but it's not.
00:22:04.000 The meaning of your life is the meaning that you choose to give it.
00:22:08.000 So you can either be miserable, being obliged, being a person whose life is accidental, or it can be something that you choose, that you create.
00:22:21.000 You know, one of the things that a lot of folks always say when they start waking up a little bit is, I want to discover who I am.
00:22:29.000 I want to find who I am.
00:22:31.000 Let me tell you, I don't want to find who I am because I'm afraid I might not like what I find.
00:22:36.000 I want to create who I want to be.
00:22:39.000 And I encourage other people to do that.
00:22:42.000 So maybe that in a nutshell is the core of my whole approach in philosophy.
00:22:48.000 Yeah.
00:22:48.000 No, that's it.
00:22:49.000 And that's, like I said, a very profound answer.
00:22:51.000 I think a lot of people are going to get a lot of help from this because, I mean, a lot of my audience, in fact, a lot of people on Tate Speech are people who may not have heard of you.
00:22:59.000 Young Romanians, Eastern Europeans, British guys who aren't on Twitter, who aren't on the same social networks as us.
00:23:05.000 So this is really, I mean, it's making my spine tingle a little bit.
00:23:08.000 So we're going to get some love on this podcast, I'm sure.
00:23:13.000 So first, I guess last of all, on this little topic, transcendence in this lifetime is possible.
00:23:19.000 Now, I don't know, even myself, exactly what you mean by transcendence.
00:23:25.000 I could tell you what I think it means, but I'd like to hear... You're the guy who wrote it, and you're the guy who I copy it from, and I now use the word after reading your Twitter page.
00:23:34.000 So what exactly do you mean, transcendence is possible?
00:23:39.000 Actually, I'm using very much the The dictionary definition of the term to transcend is to go beyond.
00:23:48.000 Yes.
00:23:48.000 To go beyond limitations.
00:23:52.000 In this life, a lot of people put a great deal of emphasis and stress on the concept of awakening, also called enlightenment.
00:24:02.000 Now, as I said, I have a background in Buddhism.
00:24:06.000 I have also been, you know, in other more traditional Enlightenment is not knowing all things.
00:24:15.000 You know, people just wrapped up on enlightenment, enlightenment.
00:24:20.000 You know, they want to go to a cave somewhere and meditate for 10 years.
00:24:23.000 And then the secrets of the entire universe will open up to them.
00:24:27.000 And they will know all, you know, enlightenment is not knowing all things.
00:24:33.000 That's not you're not becoming God or God mode like.
00:24:38.000 There we go.
00:24:41.000 Enlightenment is very simply, and this is where a lot of people can't get their legs around it.
00:24:47.000 Enlightenment is basically nothing more than spiritual adulthood, where you grow into who and what it is you have the capacity to be and to become.
00:25:00.000 And a lot of people Have that happen, and they never go beyond that.
00:25:04.000 They just spend the whole time trying to recreate a moment or a series of moments.
00:25:10.000 Because, you know, enlightenment is not a one-time deal.
00:25:13.000 It's not a one and done.
00:25:15.000 Enlightenment is a verb.
00:25:16.000 It's not a noun.
00:25:19.000 And for me, in my experience, an example that I use, I think I may have even written about this on my blog, You and I, once we're done here, through the magic of our imagination, we find ourselves sitting in a fine establishment where you and Andrew have a good reputation, so we know people are going to take good care of us.
00:25:46.000 There's a lot of people you know, some people you don't.
00:25:49.000 I would lean over to you and say, Mr. Tate, and nudge you on the elbow.
00:25:55.000 I want you to imagine something here.
00:25:58.000 I bet you a full 50% of the people in this room with us have had an enlightenment experience.
00:26:05.000 I bet you they have.
00:26:07.000 They don't know what it is that has happened to them.
00:26:11.000 Some of them might think that they were having a mental breakdown.
00:26:14.000 Uh, some of them might, uh, because they didn't know what it was, they fell back on their, their, uh, childhood mythologies, you know, whether it was Catholicism or, uh, you know, Judaism or Buddhism or whatever it is.
00:26:27.000 And so they, they fall into that.
00:26:30.000 Others go absolutely bonkers. 1.00
00:26:33.000 They go fucking nuts. 1.00
00:26:35.000 There, there are another group of people of which I have found myself to be a part of that say, okay, well, this was interesting. 1.00
00:26:43.000 Now what?
00:26:45.000 You know, there's an old, old saying in Buddhism, you know, before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.
00:26:50.000 After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.
00:26:54.000 You're still the same person, but something has changed.
00:26:58.000 And with me, the idea then is to, okay, instead of just trying to recreate this amazing moment, What else is there?
00:27:10.000 And then that's the abiding, the going over and over and over and transcending and going beyond the limitations.
00:27:19.000 Most of the limitations that humans experience are self-imposed.
00:27:25.000 We put up fences.
00:27:26.000 We put up boundaries.
00:27:31.000 When I do teach publicly, which has not been for a few years now, and this whole pandemic nonsense has really put a cramp on my style.
00:27:44.000 This is the kind of thing that I get together with folks of both genders for up to three to five days at a time, and we just sit and we hash this out.
00:27:54.000 We do ceremony.
00:27:57.000 Understand what it is to transcend, and it's really not as mysterious as people want to make it out to be.
00:28:07.000 Usually the ones who want it to be mysterious are the ones that are wanting to not only make a buck on it, which I don't have a problem with people making a buck on teaching.
00:28:18.000 I've been known to do it myself.
00:28:19.000 But when you make people dependent, you always come and suck at that tit, and they don't take their own accountability. 0.95
00:28:27.000 And, you know, go beyond there. 0.94
00:28:30.000 That's where I have a problem.
00:28:32.000 That's what transcendence is, in a very abbreviated nutshell for me.
00:28:38.000 To just go out there and live a life of magic.
00:28:45.000 You remind me of a much, much, much wiser version of myself, because we share a lot of these... What I call God mode, you call transcendence, almost.
00:28:54.000 It's a different thing, and you have wisdom that I am not going to see for another 30 years of my life.
00:29:00.000 Because, you know, with age comes wisdom, and there's no two ways around that.
00:29:02.000 But yeah, the things you're saying, it just resonated with me so well, because when you're talking about living a moment again and again, it actually broke my heart.
00:29:10.000 I was in England last year, and I was catching up with a few friends, one after the other after the other.
00:29:16.000 I went out on various, you know, drinks, lunches, etc.
00:29:19.000 with people I used to know.
00:29:21.000 And a guy I used to know, I won't say his name, he looked me straight in the eye.
00:29:24.000 We were talking about when we were 17, 18, and we used to start meeting girls for the first time and drinking at his parents' house.
00:29:31.000 It was a bit of a fun time back then.
00:29:33.000 But I was a bit of a nerd.
00:29:35.000 I wasn't that good with women. 1.00
00:29:36.000 I had to learn how to become good with women. 1.00
00:29:38.000 And I'm going to get to that, being a gentleman, after this.
00:29:40.000 But he looked me straight in the eye.
00:29:42.000 He was overweight.
00:29:45.000 The spark in his eye had left him.
00:29:47.000 He looked at me and goes, you know, those were the best days of my life.
00:29:50.000 And I thought, isn't that tragic?
00:29:53.000 You're now 14 years separated from when we were just discovering how to be men.
00:29:58.000 We were just discovering this world and you look back as though those were the best days of your life.
00:30:03.000 It literally broke my heart to hear it.
00:30:05.000 And you know, maybe I'll never see the guy again.
00:30:08.000 He's living his life now and I'm living mine.
00:30:09.000 But you know, every single year, every single year, COVID or no COVID, I look back and I think that was the most amazing year of my life.
00:30:19.000 Okay, let's go again.
00:30:20.000 Let's up the game.
00:30:21.000 Let's do something.
00:30:22.000 And because, like you said, the point of living, the reason for my life is to live.
00:30:28.000 And then the reason I give myself Uh, you know, to be alive, I guess is the meaning I give myself is just to, just to, you know, enjoy myself and spread happiness and spread positivity and spread joy.
00:30:39.000 I mean, I'm not a rude person.
00:30:41.000 I'm not impolite.
00:30:41.000 I'm not vulgar.
00:30:42.000 People don't like me because I can come across that way sometimes, but yeah, I just want to spread positivity and I help people, I approach people.
00:30:50.000 One of the things about the two of you, and it's kind of hard to separate Andrew Tate from Tristan Tate, at least on Twitter, the infamous Tate brothers.
00:31:03.000 There has been discussions that I have had with people that you may or may not know that have have spoken very highly of the two of you. I don't want to ruin your reputation here now.
00:31:24.000 As you said, you and Andrew both are both gentlemen. You tend to be like pro wrestlers when you're in the public. You're taking your personality and turning it up to 20.
00:31:40.000 Yes.
00:31:40.000 But at your core, you really are good men, and that's the reason.
00:31:46.000 I've had people ask me before, you call yourself a gentleman?
00:31:49.000 Why do you follow these guys?
00:31:51.000 I've seen that. 1.00
00:31:53.000 They're young assholes. 1.00
00:31:56.000 You obviously don't see what I see. 1.00
00:31:58.000 Yes.
00:31:59.000 And yeah, there might be times when I go, oh, good Lord, here we go again.
00:32:03.000 So I just scroll through something else.
00:32:06.000 But then you or both of you will do something and it touches something in me that says, hey, These, you know, okay, they are where they are at their age, where you were at their age, and you know, good for them, they're, they're farther ahead at that age than you were.
00:32:25.000 So just let them, let them do what they're doing.
00:32:28.000 And it's, I mean, I respect you to like you would not believe.
00:32:34.000 And again, some, So many people don't understand.
00:32:39.000 You're always talking about manners and very rarely do you even cuss online.
00:32:45.000 In this conversation alone, I've already dropped two F-bombs.
00:32:48.000 I'm not a virgin.
00:32:49.000 I'm not a virgin. I'm not a Puritan.
00:32:53.000 So, but to...
00:32:55.000 Well, this is something that we...
00:32:58.000 To know who you are.
00:32:59.000 Yeah, this is something I want to move on to because I get criticized a lot for the... I'm not going to talk, and this is not the subject of this podcast, but for the business I used to run.
00:33:08.000 And essentially for my lifestyle, I'm very good with women. 1.00
00:33:11.000 I'm known for being good with women. 1.00
00:33:12.000 I always have a beautiful girl on my arm no matter where I am.
00:33:15.000 Any of the big Twitter guys have hung out with me.
00:33:17.000 Regardless of where in the world I am, give me a few hours and there will be a beautiful woman on my arm. 0.93
00:33:21.000 And some people, some people think that to be good with women and to enjoy the company of lots of women, because I enjoy female company.
00:33:29.000 It's not just a sexual gratification.
00:33:32.000 Women are wonderful. 1.00
00:33:33.000 They're absolutely wonderful.
00:33:34.000 And they make life better.
00:33:36.000 So I always like to have a beautiful woman on my arm.
00:33:38.000 I was at the Ballroom Summit in Las Vegas last week.
00:33:40.000 I had a beautiful girl next to me almost the entire time.
00:33:42.000 Now, they think, some people, they think that to be this way with women and to cycle, I guess, through women and to always be seen with different women, you have to be mean somehow.
00:33:51.000 You have to be mean and rude and brash and, you know, and I think it's the complete opposite because I am a gentleman.
00:33:58.000 I'm the guy who opens car doors.
00:34:01.000 Holds doors open, buys flowers.
00:34:02.000 I'm a nice, sweet guy.
00:34:04.000 And gentleman is the word for this.
00:34:06.000 And obviously you have gentleman in your name. 0.99
00:34:08.000 You are the gentleman mystic.
00:34:11.000 One, how much, what importance do you put on being a gentleman?
00:34:16.000 And two, why do you think these values are being lost?
00:34:19.000 Because they are being lost in young men.
00:34:22.000 I don't see it.
00:34:24.000 Well, personally for me, being a gentleman is, It is paramount.
00:34:29.000 It is absolutely... I have not always acted gentlemanly.
00:34:36.000 I don't always act gentlemanly now.
00:34:37.000 Now, I can give you a list of names of people who I have sat down with that we all do know, that can verify without any hesitation that what you see online from me is who I am.
00:34:52.000 It's not a facade, it's not a...
00:34:56.000 You know, like some of the hustlers like to do, they do one thing online and their life is, you know, they're still living at home in mom's basement.
00:35:05.000 Not because they want to help mom, but because they can't do anything else. Exactly.
00:35:09.000 So, I am a gentleman first and foremost.
00:35:14.000 Again, I don't always succeed.
00:35:17.000 There are still times I'm like any man that I'm capable of losing my temper.
00:35:22.000 I'm capable of, what's the modern term for it?
00:35:25.000 Losing my frame.
00:35:28.000 So it's possible for me and for anybody, but there is a comfort and a delight I find in manners in certain formalities.
00:35:41.000 I have written extensively on my blog about manners, and this is not some perfunctory etiquette that you have to use this fork and you must always, when you step into a room, step with a certain foot forward.
00:35:56.000 It's not that at all.
00:35:58.000 It is a steeping myself in what I view as a lineage that goes back beyond history of chivalry.
00:36:10.000 Yes.
00:36:11.000 And it's a more, and this is going to sound wrong, again, and it may sound like it's a shot across the bow at you, a more gentle form of the warrior. I don't get in fights anymore. If it comes down to I've got to fight somebody, I'm going to shoot them.
00:36:32.000 I have plenty of weapons. Never in my life could I do what you have done. 0.99
00:36:38.000 I don't have an athletic bone in my body.
00:36:42.000 And what's funny is when people hear me say that and then they think I'm sandbagging when I go over and can deadlift over 400 pounds.
00:36:49.000 Yes.
00:36:52.000 But that has nothing to do with athletic ability.
00:36:56.000 It's good technique and desire and wanting to be healthy and fit.
00:37:03.000 But I digress.
00:37:05.000 With the gentleman aspect, What you see before you now has only manifested in its recognizable form for probably the last six or seven years.
00:37:18.000 For the longest time, I traveled with and was an assistant to my adoptive grandfather, White Wolf.
00:37:28.000 He's the one who gave me the name Red Horse.
00:37:32.000 So I learned at the blanket of one of the best teachers on the planet, as far as I'm concerned.
00:37:40.000 But as always seems to happen with student and teacher relationships, there comes a point where it's just like in life, you got to be kicked out of the nest and go do your own thing.
00:37:53.000 Well, I did not want to be White Wolf Jr.
00:37:56.000 I didn't want people to think that they were getting a lesser copy of my grandpa.
00:38:01.000 Yes.
00:38:02.000 So I began to, all right, what, based on all the teachers that I've worked with, based on the stories that I've heard from my grandpa, what are the things that resonate most with me?
00:38:14.000 And invariably it came back to decorum.
00:38:17.000 It came back to, um, one of his teachers in particular was a, uh, a marvelous, um, um, I can't remember if blue hair was, uh, Colombian or Venezuelan.
00:38:30.000 I think it was Venezuelan.
00:38:33.000 Obviously, I just said his name, Bluehair, and if you've ever seen the Antonio Banderas movie, Zorro.
00:38:40.000 Yes, I have.
00:38:42.000 When the Zorro character was in his civilian clothes and not dressed like Zorro, this is how Bluehair presented himself.
00:38:51.000 Impeccably dressed, impeccably groomed. 0.81
00:38:55.000 You couldn't help but just, even guys were going, damn, I'd like that.
00:39:00.000 I'd like to at least shake his hand. 0.95
00:39:02.000 And so I said, all right, that's, that has always spoken to me.
00:39:07.000 That's who I want to be.
00:39:08.000 So in line with, you know, going back 15 minutes of the meaning that I wanted to create in my life, what, how, how do I want to express this?
00:39:19.000 And then that's when gentlemen, mystic, that's both sides of my personality.
00:39:26.000 That's both sides of what I do.
00:39:27.000 Boom. Yeah. And the Twitter talk, instant brand.
00:39:32.000 Yeah. You know, I really wish more Americans were like you.
00:39:36.000 Because I think as a European, I see the, when you talk words like chivalry, class, you know, in America, it seems to be sliding down a slope very, very Fast.
00:39:50.000 I was in Las Vegas just last week.
00:39:51.000 I mentioned that already.
00:39:53.000 And I was, uh, I'm the kind of guy I like to have fun.
00:39:55.000 I don't gamble for money, but I was in Las Vegas.
00:39:57.000 I'm going to do some gambling.
00:39:59.000 I actually left $65,000 up.
00:40:00.000 So it was, it was a good day, but I was at the high rollers.
00:40:03.000 Oh yeah.
00:40:03.000 I was at the high rollers table wearing my sunglasses and a tailored white suit.
00:40:07.000 There's pictures on my Instagram.
00:40:08.000 It was a tailored white suit.
00:40:10.000 Very fine.
00:40:11.000 I had some snakeskin shoes on and I'm gambling.
00:40:13.000 I get to roulette table, throwing ticks around, you know, being generous, being nice, creating a bit of an atmosphere.
00:40:18.000 And the guy who came up to join me at the High Rollers table was, again, betting the same as me, maybe $600, $700 per spin of roulette.
00:40:25.000 And he was wearing socks, sandals, cargo shorts, a baseball cap, and a t-shirt with, like, some cereal brand on it.
00:40:33.000 Like, Total, Wheaties, something like that.
00:40:36.000 And I just thought, he's not just robbing himself.
00:40:40.000 Of an experience.
00:40:42.000 He's robbing me.
00:40:43.000 He's robbing everybody at this casino.
00:40:45.000 If everyone took it as seriously as me, or like you, and dressed as sharply or as fine as you would or I would, you're benefiting by adding ambiance to this casino that's been here for 75 years, you know, taking people's money.
00:41:01.000 And it just, it ruined my mood to see this guy.
00:41:05.000 You know, they were serving drinks in plastic cups.
00:41:07.000 You know, I'm tipping the waitress $100 for free drinks.
00:41:10.000 They bring me over a whiskey and soda and a plastic cup and I just thought, why is America going this way?
00:41:15.000 And this is unscripted, I haven't written this down at all, but you're just inspiring me because you're on fire.
00:41:21.000 Why do you think class is just slipping in the United States?
00:41:25.000 Western Europe too, but you know, if you go to Monaco, to the casino, everyone's in a suit or tuxedo, even today.
00:41:31.000 Everybody wants to be James Bond.
00:41:33.000 Yes, yes.
00:41:34.000 Everybody wants to be Bond, yeah.
00:41:36.000 But not in Las Vegas.
00:41:38.000 Well, and the problem is it is not a recent development.
00:41:43.000 We are just at the, the, you know, it started, you know, up here and then it starts going down here.
00:41:49.000 Well, we're down to here, but there's still probably a whole lot.
00:41:52.000 And unfortunately, uh, you know, people like to blame my generation for a lot of bad things.
00:41:59.000 Well, let me tell you what, yeah, I am a boomer.
00:42:02.000 I'm on the tail end of the baby boom.
00:42:03.000 So I am a boomer.
00:42:04.000 Okay.
00:42:05.000 Boomer.
00:42:06.000 Um, But the thing of it is, it's not, you know, with the members of the gray table, myself, the chief, Dennis Hines,
00:42:18.000 Part of the reason that we have explicitly discussed amongst ourselves over some fine whiskey in real life, I will tell you, is that we recognize, okay, it's not our fault individually that the world is in the shithole that it's in right now, but we are still part of our, our generation dropped the ball.
00:42:39.000 You know, the hippies, the, uh, the, the, the, You know, everything, there's no responsibility for anything.
00:42:47.000 Everything is, you know, free love and, you know, just do what you want to do.
00:42:52.000 Yeah, do whatever you want to do and, you know, someone else will come clean up your mess.
00:42:58.000 Well, I've never operated, even in my worst times, I've never operated that way.
00:43:03.000 And I just refuse to bow out without putting up a fight.
00:43:10.000 And again, the youth, most youth of today are not going to, on a good day, they don't want to hear what I have to say.
00:43:18.000 But when I start, you know, when I sit down for an interview on YouTube with, you know, Coat and Tie, and this is not a half way, I'm again, crocking Jones boots.
00:43:31.000 Love it.
00:43:31.000 Yeah, I'm full.
00:43:32.000 It's the full deal because, you know, I tell you what, and I'll bet you could confirm this.
00:43:41.000 Okay, the guy that was wearing the kit that you were talking about with the t-shirt and sandals and socks, I'd be willing to bet Good money that that man has never experienced what it is to wear fine clothes.
00:43:56.000 I'm not just talking about clothes that are clean.
00:43:59.000 I'm not just talking about clothes that fit.
00:44:01.000 I'm talking about clothes that some human being put their sweat, blood and tears into making.
00:44:10.000 It's not just Absolutely.
00:44:12.000 Now, you know, bespoke and made to measure, you don't have to go that far.
00:44:17.000 Yes.
00:44:18.000 Just go out and find good quality clothing and find yourself a tailor.
00:44:24.000 A gentleman's best friend, he should have several best friends, but one of them ought to be his tailor.
00:44:29.000 Yeah.
00:44:29.000 And go and have things sized.
00:44:31.000 Yes.
00:44:32.000 Well, my body's not the way I want it to be right now.
00:44:34.000 I got a few pounds off.
00:44:36.000 Okay.
00:44:36.000 You can have it changed again when you've lost some weight.
00:44:39.000 Exactly.
00:44:44.000 Obviously, I'm a big Crockett & Jones fan because I've said they ought to pay me as much as I shill for them.
00:44:53.000 The first time I put on a pair of Crockett & Jones boots, I have had sneakers that didn't feel as comfortable as these dress boots did.
00:45:01.000 I even posted on Instagram about it years ago.
00:45:07.000 I bought a pair of Tetberries.
00:45:10.000 And is it possible to be red-pilled by a pair of boots?
00:45:14.000 Because that first pair of boots, I said, I will never buy cheap footwear again.
00:45:20.000 Now, it doesn't have to be $700 boots.
00:45:25.000 There are a lot of really good options out there for half that price, which most guys would still go, my god, $300 for a pair of boots?
00:45:34.000 Hell no! 0.93
00:45:36.000 Until you've experienced it, and then, and here's the kicker, decide that you're worth it.
00:45:46.000 Don't go out and put your future in jeopardy buying stuff that you can't afford.
00:45:54.000 Part of the joys of building a wardrobe, from the purely gentleman aspect of it, is to bring things in one piece at a time.
00:46:04.000 And to construct something, because you're not only constructing what's in your closet, you're building who you are as a man.
00:46:15.000 Be willing to do that and be willing to just go with it.
00:46:22.000 Yeah, because I know people, I literally know people who earn per month what this guy was spinning per play of roulette, who dress perfectly fine.
00:46:32.000 They dress wonderfully.
00:46:34.000 I know people who make it, you know, $1,500 a month and they dress with class and with elegance.
00:46:41.000 And this guy, you know, it's an American thing that I hear a lot, like, oh, I'm so rich, I don't have to dress up.
00:46:47.000 Well, that's fine.
00:46:48.000 But if you, I mean, you can also dress so bad, you know, you're dressed so bad that the women at the bar also aren't looking at you.
00:46:55.000 So, I mean, you're doing yourself a disservice.
00:46:56.000 And I think that, you know, there's a young guy who works for me, actually.
00:47:01.000 young Romanian guy named Alex.
00:47:03.000 And he was out last night and I saw his shirt and his pants.
00:47:05.000 He came out with me for the first time.
00:47:06.000 I was like, you know what Alex, you're dressed very, very well.
00:47:09.000 And the kid's got next to no money, but it's not about money.
00:47:13.000 Like you said, it's about, it's about caring what people think about you.
00:47:18.000 And I don't think it's good for people to think, oh, well, he's so rich.
00:47:21.000 He doesn't need to wear good clothes.
00:47:22.000 He's a, you know, that's a level of arrogance.
00:47:26.000 Where you don't, I can destroy the- That's arrogance and it's also its own, what's the term?
00:47:33.000 Virtue signaling.
00:47:37.000 Yes, exactly.
00:47:41.000 I wouldn't dare go out in a Brooks Brothers shirt.
00:47:44.000 Well, you know as well as I do, Brooks Brothers is an expensive brand generally, but there are shirts out there, Turnbull and Hasser, Frank Foster, and if you want to go with the brand names from Italy, my God!
00:47:59.000 You can buy shirts for Hugo Boss.
00:48:02.000 It's a very good brand.
00:48:03.000 They're not that expensive.
00:48:05.000 $60, $70 you can get a nice shirt.
00:48:06.000 Get two of those.
00:48:06.000 That's amazing!
00:48:07.000 Yeah, two of those and you're perfectly happy.
00:48:10.000 You're perfectly on your way.
00:48:11.000 So yeah, I really do like the way you dress.
00:48:12.000 You know what?
00:48:13.000 All of my jackets, there was a mistake.
00:48:16.000 Because I came back from Vegas and half of my tailored clothing and my jackets were clean, but my assistant sent them all away for dry cleaning.
00:48:23.000 So today, you certainly win the dress competition, but expect to see some finer clothes on Godmode Podcast in the future.
00:48:31.000 But everything was dry cleaned.
00:48:32.000 I even chased my assistant today and said, where are all my clothes?
00:48:34.000 wear all my jackets, all been taken away even though half of them are clean already.
00:48:38.000 But God knows. But anyway, the point is in Las Vegas, this loser was doing his thing, he was doing what he was doing. But I don't know if it's, I don't really necessarily want to say I even believe in karma, but I kept winning and I had a beautiful girl on my arm. He kept losing his money, was getting scooped down the hole and I won. So I was... There is such a thing, there is such a thing as karma, but karma is not what most people think it is. You know. 0.93
00:49:01.000 Karma is not this energy that's like, you walk into a room and, man, this room's got bad karma, man.
00:49:07.000 No, karma is very simply a natural law, the law of cause and effect that leads to outcome.
00:49:14.000 Absolutely.
00:49:15.000 If you want to, going back to what I was saying earlier about enlightenment, If you wish to experience enlightenment and be an enlightened being, you have to take the steps necessary to become enlightened.
00:49:27.000 It is very, very rare that you will just be walking down the hall and suddenly you will be enlightened.
00:49:33.000 Some blessed being from on high will reach down and have mercy on you and say, you are enlightened.
00:49:41.000 No, you have to do the things required.
00:49:44.000 If you want to become a pro fighter, you have to know how to train.
00:49:47.000 If you want to be able to deadlift 400 pounds, you can't walk up to the bar and say, I'm going to deadlift 400 pounds if you've never picked up even 150.
00:49:54.000 Things have to be done decently and in order.
00:49:58.000 And if you do it, there is no guarantee That there's an outcome, the outcome you want is going to happen, but you have a much greater likelihood.
00:50:07.000 You would not have won $60,000 if you had not gambled.
00:50:11.000 Yes, exactly.
00:50:12.000 What a simple concept.
00:50:14.000 Yeah, you know, you're completely right.
00:50:15.000 You're completely right.
00:50:16.000 And karma is very much, you know, if you do bad things to other people, people are more likely to do bad things to you back.
00:50:21.000 I always say, when I try and explain karma in my way, I say, imagine the entire population of the world is five individuals living in five houses on the same street.
00:50:29.000 That's the whole population of the world. 0.99
00:50:31.000 If you run around being an asshole to everybody, the moment you need help, you know, those are four people who haven't got your back. 1.00
00:50:38.000 Or, those are four people who will happily stab you in the back, give it half a chance. 1.00
00:50:41.000 So, you know, putting bad out there is going to bring it back on yourself in that way.
00:50:45.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:50:45.000 I don't believe in karma or some magical, mystical energy, but it served me well in Las Vegas.
00:50:50.000 I got lucky over there.
00:50:52.000 People see the term mystic in my name and they think that I'm talking about Harry Potter and all that kind of stuff.
00:51:01.000 The great mysteries and magic, they are real.
00:51:04.000 They absolutely are.
00:51:06.000 But they're not what Hollywood has told us.
00:51:08.000 They are not Harry Potter.
00:51:11.000 You can't make something from nothing.
00:51:14.000 Everything has to have origin before it has destination, before it has expression.
00:51:24.000 I would be willing to bet that the principles that I teach are not unlike the principles that you guys share in the war room.
00:51:28.000 I don't even like the term make money.
00:51:34.000 If you wish to create value and earn money, you have to do XXX.
00:51:38.000 You can't just sit there and think positive thoughts.
00:51:42.000 I'm going to draw a cute chick to me. 1.00
00:51:44.000 I'm going to draw money.
00:51:47.000 It doesn't work that way.
00:51:49.000 So you just take the steps to do what you want to do, and then there is a great likelihood that it's going to happen.
00:51:56.000 You might not be a world champion.
00:51:58.000 You might not be the richest man in the world, but you will do okay.
00:52:01.000 And that doesn't suck.
00:52:03.000 Now I want to talk, before we move on to, because you touched on your weight training and I see all your lifting and stuff you're doing.
00:52:09.000 We also have a mutual friend I want to discuss very briefly because I want to ask your thoughts on something.
00:52:13.000 But before we get there, talking about being a gentleman, we're speaking about the way we dress, the way we conduct ourselves in public.
00:52:19.000 A lot of guys follow me.
00:52:22.000 A lot of guys follow me for dating advice.
00:52:24.000 Dating advice, relationship advice, how to meet girls, how to date girls.
00:52:27.000 And I always preach being a gentleman.
00:52:29.000 Now, you've been, I guess, meeting and dating women since way before I was even born.
00:52:35.000 Can you talk a little bit more about being a gentleman and how it translates to, I guess, success in love?
00:52:42.000 Maybe looking for a wife, looking for a girlfriend, looking for a lover.
00:52:44.000 Can you touch on that a little bit for us?
00:52:47.000 There is no one-size-fits-all formula. 0.98
00:52:52.000 Mr. Tate, when I look back on, even to this day, I find myself looking back on how I carried myself, how I interacted with people, male and female, and I was a class jerk. 1.00
00:53:08.000 I was an asshole. 1.00
00:53:10.000 And it wasn't intentional. 1.00
00:53:12.000 It was from ignorance.
00:53:14.000 Yes.
00:53:18.000 I think one of the worst things that can happen to someone is to either be born into wealth, which I was not, or to be born with an inherent intelligence, high intelligence.
00:53:35.000 In the fifth grade, I was identified as They put me in what was called a special abilities and talents class.
00:53:43.000 In elementary school, I was taking high school classes.
00:53:46.000 By the time I got to middle school, I was doing college level stuff.
00:53:50.000 My IQ was tested, if not at genius, it was like one tick down below being official genius level.
00:53:57.000 And because things came to me so easily, I didn't do the work.
00:54:03.000 I didn't think I had to.
00:54:06.000 And so I skated.
00:54:08.000 And then there came a point where the guys around me that had to work, they continued to work while I'm skating.
00:54:15.000 And suddenly, well, it's like, you know, Red Horse is up here and here's all his buddies down here.
00:54:20.000 Well, one day I woke up and I was still here.
00:54:24.000 And my buddies, you know, were working hard.
00:54:27.000 They're gone.
00:54:28.000 And so, you know, I alluded to earlier that I'm still repairing damage this late in life for my youth, and that's kind of what I'm talking about. 0.84
00:54:38.000 So, you know, revisiting interactions where I thought I was witty and where I thought I was charming, I was being a dick.
00:54:49.000 And you know, when I was a young guy, you know, I never did drugs.
00:54:57.000 I didn't drink.
00:54:59.000 My vice was girls. 1.00
00:55:01.000 My vice was women. 1.00
00:55:03.000 And growing up, and I wasn't, I mean, I certainly, I comported myself in ways then that today would, you know, be frowned upon and you might even, you know, wind up with me with a lawsuit.
00:55:21.000 Let me make it perfectly clear.
00:55:23.000 I never, I don't believe in forcing myself on anyone.
00:55:26.000 That's not what I'm talking about.
00:55:28.000 Exactly.
00:55:28.000 But that doesn't say that I would not try to talk a young lady into something that she didn't want to do.
00:55:35.000 Absolutely.
00:55:37.000 That's part of the game.
00:55:38.000 Exactly.
00:55:40.000 In all seriousness, I don't want to say that you have to get to 40 and 50 and 60 before you really start getting the grasp of things.
00:55:53.000 But that's the way it was with me.
00:55:55.000 Like I said, you and Andrew both are light years ahead in many ways at your age than I was at that same age.
00:56:03.000 But you know, I look at my own behaviors and it's literally, I adapt so fast and I'm learning so fast because for a very long time, The ability to meet women and charm women was very much my job.
00:56:15.000 I mean, that's how I recruited women to work on my various websites and webcam studios and that kind of stuff. 0.99
00:56:19.000 So it was very much a profession, you know, what I was doing. 0.97
00:56:23.000 I look at myself, I guess, no, I can't really say last year, but certainly when I look two years ago, how I conducted myself on various dates and various interactions or two years before that, or two years before that, you know, the further back in time I look, the more of a dick I see that I've been.
00:56:40.000 And I imagine when I, I mean, I hear a lot of women on my own age and younger than me saying men peak at 35, 45, men peak between 35 and 45. 0.56
00:56:50.000 And I can completely agree with that.
00:56:51.000 I think even as a 32 year old, I don't think I've peaked yet.
00:56:54.000 And I think as I'm older, I'm going to look back at how I conduct myself even today, and be able to find criticisms.
00:57:00.000 But you know, that's the old argument.
00:57:02.000 If I knew then what I know now, And it just doesn't work.
00:57:06.000 I'm going to interview you now for one question.
00:57:08.000 Okay.
00:57:09.000 Go ahead.
00:57:11.000 Define for me peak.
00:57:13.000 What are you talking about when men hit their peak at 35 to 40?
00:57:17.000 I was talking in the context that these young girls were saying it to me, peak in terms of attractiveness and I guess marriage prospect for them.
00:57:29.000 You know, I want to have a family with this guy. 0.99
00:57:30.000 This guy looks like he has his shit together. 0.99
00:57:32.000 That's what I meant right now. 0.97
00:57:35.000 Well, I challenge you and everyone that is watching this video now.
00:57:42.000 You look at some of the men that have taken care of themselves, that have been gentlemanly, that have done well.
00:57:50.000 Again, you don't have to be rich.
00:57:53.000 You don't have to be wealthy to live rich in life.
00:57:55.000 That's true.
00:57:58.000 But you look at some, now I'm not talking about old, decrepit guys that just, they have a young honey on their arm because they have money.
00:58:05.000 I'm talking about men that you can look at them, you can see the energy around them.
00:58:10.000 You know, the fact that when they walk into a room, everybody knows it.
00:58:15.000 I know men like this.
00:58:16.000 And they, you know, I want to be at 85 like that.
00:58:23.000 You know, I'm, Every day now, I try to work a little bit more and more and more towards that. 0.98
00:58:30.000 And following my own formula here, if I continue to do that, when I do hit 80, I'm going to be a bad motherfucker. 0.98
00:58:38.000 I'm going to be bad. 0.97
00:58:40.000 And so it's just, it is a, it's absolutely mindset.
00:58:47.000 You know, the important thing to understand is that people tend to, when they work on something to do with themselves, they tend to focus on one or two areas.
00:58:56.000 Humans are not one or two.
00:58:59.000 Constituents.
00:59:00.000 All human beings are five constituent elements.
00:59:03.000 Physical, emotional, mental, spiritual.
00:59:06.000 And in the center of what is a wheel, at the very center of this wheel, is our creative, expressive nature.
00:59:14.000 And it actually has its basis in biology.
00:59:18.000 What is the most basic expression of creation that human beings know?
00:59:23.000 Procreation.
00:59:25.000 So that's why sex is such a big issue for us, and why sometimes sex is used as a weapon or an enticement.
00:59:33.000 It is at the very center of who we are as incarnate beings.
00:59:41.000 But if you want to fully experience life, you can't just worry about going to the gym, or you can't just worry about going to the temple.
00:59:49.000 You need to go to both.
00:59:51.000 You have to do both.
00:59:51.000 You can't just work on your emotions.
00:59:53.000 You can't just be a brainiac geek.
00:59:57.000 You have to do both.
00:59:58.000 All of these things, and as close to being in balance as humanly possible.
01:00:03.000 That's where this transcendence can blossom and grow into something beyond what your wildest dreams can be.
01:00:12.000 Red Horse, you are literally one of the most interesting people I've ever spoken to.
01:00:15.000 So before we have this podcast, I wrote down some notes and some topics we're going to talk about.
01:00:19.000 I'm going to skip some because I'm not going to talk about weight training with you.
01:00:23.000 You weight train, I weight train.
01:00:25.000 Lift some weights, young guys. 0.99
01:00:26.000 You know, weight training is good.
01:00:27.000 Let's skip that because, you know, there are podcasts more in depth about My nephew!
01:00:31.000 weight train, blah, blah, blah, that exists, go find those.
01:00:34.000 I've got Billy Redhorse on the air for at least probably another half an hour or so.
01:00:37.000 I'm not gonna waste time talking about lifting weights.
01:00:39.000 Then we have a mutual friend, Tanai, the science guy.
01:00:43.000 Now you used to train with him.
01:00:45.000 My nephew.
01:00:46.000 Yeah? My nephew.
01:00:47.000 So this is, I mean, what do you think of this?
01:00:50.000 I mean, I was gonna ask you this because like you said, with the name Mystic, you'd assume that there is more, I don't know, let's call it fantastic, kind of fantastic ideas that you've had.
01:01:02.000 I met him once, and I don't know if he told you this story, I was in Atlanta at one of the first ever War Room Summits, and he appeared, I don't know where, and he came to have a drink with us.
01:01:12.000 We followed each other on Instagram, and he looked at my Instagram stories, he says, That's the church in Smile, Alabama.
01:01:19.000 I just posted a photo of a church, a small white church with a maximum capacity of maybe 30 to 40 people.
01:01:26.000 Tiny little building.
01:01:28.000 And he goes, I used to go to that church when I was a kid.
01:01:30.000 All my family and stuff go to that church, which is absolutely mind-blowing because in that church, there's about 25 burial sites.
01:01:38.000 And one of them is my father.
01:01:39.000 My father's buried at the same church that he used to go to as a kid.
01:01:42.000 And that just blew my mind.
01:01:43.000 I mean, no doubt.
01:01:44.000 From that part of the world, I mean, if you don't know, I'm half African American.
01:01:47.000 There's probably some relation to this guy, I guess.
01:01:50.000 Everyone in that whole county of Alabama is somewhat related to me in one way or another.
01:01:55.000 That was absolutely mind-blowing.
01:01:59.000 Complete coincidence?
01:02:00.000 I mean, how would a man as intelligent as you read that?
01:02:07.000 Obviously with a name like Red Horse and, you know, having worked for 20 plus years with my half-breed Cheyenne grandpa, you know, people will come up to me, hey, Red Horse, I saw a fox outside my door this morning before we came over here.
01:02:28.000 What does that mean?
01:02:30.000 So I'll sit there and I'll close my eyes.
01:02:36.000 Hey, hey.
01:02:38.000 It means there was a fox outside your door.
01:02:42.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:02:44.000 I joke about that.
01:02:45.000 I joke about that.
01:02:46.000 Now, there are times where Spirit is saying something to you, and But yeah, we literally read too much into things.
01:02:55.000 The same person that came up to me and asked me about Fox and didn't like my answer, well, they run home and they grab their New Age book about, well, what do foxes mean?
01:03:04.000 Well, okay.
01:03:07.000 Synchronicities absolutely happen. 0.98
01:03:11.000 Coincidences absolutely happen.
01:03:13.000 One of the things that is a fundamental of when I take a student, you know, a close level student, not just someone that happens to come to a one or two day gathering or something like that, is to begin to understand energy and to be able to move it and to read it.
01:03:34.000 And that sounds all woo-woo, that sounds all mystical, and yeah, but it's like anything.
01:03:41.000 When you know how it's done, I don't want to discount it and say that it's not that big a deal, but it's not that big a deal.
01:03:49.000 It's the same thing as being able to digest your food, or if you get sick, your body heals itself.
01:03:57.000 Energy.
01:03:58.000 Energy.
01:04:00.000 You'll see a lot of times on Twitter, if I'm commenting on someone else's post, many times I'll answer with one word.
01:04:08.000 One word.
01:04:10.000 Medicine.
01:04:11.000 Yeah.
01:04:12.000 Yeah.
01:04:12.000 I've seen it.
01:04:12.000 I've seen it.
01:04:14.000 Some post of mine, I believe, as well, at some point.
01:04:16.000 I believe you've commented on mine.
01:04:17.000 Probably.
01:04:18.000 Probably.
01:04:19.000 What do you mean by medicine?
01:04:24.000 Medicine is power.
01:04:26.000 Medicine is life force.
01:04:27.000 Medicine is love.
01:04:28.000 Medicine is vigor, vim.
01:04:32.000 It's magical.
01:04:35.000 It is magic.
01:04:37.000 I don't believe in magic.
01:04:38.000 I know magic.
01:04:39.000 But I also, again, I'm repeating myself, magic is not what Hollywood says it is.
01:04:45.000 It is not something from nothing.
01:04:47.000 And when you begin to see the connections of things, when you begin to see how things interact, and when you begin to actually understand that not everything is guaranteed.
01:04:59.000 My teachers and their teachers before them have said that life is 80% pattern and 20% chaos.
01:05:09.000 Now that word chaos freaks a lot of people out, so I'll use a more modern term, chance.
01:05:14.000 Yeah.
01:05:15.000 Things are...
01:05:16.000 And we have to have those chaotic energies.
01:05:19.000 We have to have chance.
01:05:20.000 Otherwise, there's stasis.
01:05:22.000 Things become stagnant.
01:05:24.000 So yeah, you might train...
01:05:27.000 You might be a training partner of a four-time world kickboxing champion.
01:05:32.000 You know anybody like that?
01:05:33.000 There's no guarantee, though, that you will become a four-time world kickboxing champion.
01:05:39.000 You might become a ten-time. 0.99
01:05:41.000 You just had your ass handed to you in the first round of your first fight. 1.00
01:05:44.000 Yeah, that did happen to me. 1.00
01:05:48.000 And I bet you got up a better man for it because you were home.
01:05:50.000 Absolutely, absolutely.
01:05:57.000 There's so much that we can experience.
01:06:00.000 Don't focus on the, as you were saying with your example about the church, what's the chances?
01:06:06.000 What do you think about that?
01:06:08.000 Don't.
01:06:09.000 Just enjoy the magnificence of it.
01:06:11.000 Wow.
01:06:13.000 As I'm sitting here, the fur is going up on my arm now.
01:06:16.000 That's the magic.
01:06:17.000 It certainly made our first meeting, our night, much more entertaining.
01:06:22.000 It was very, very cool.
01:06:25.000 Um, me and you, me and you share a philosophy, I believe, from reading into your tweets.
01:06:30.000 We share a philosophy.
01:06:32.000 Now, I may seem, I know, it's been said that Tristan and Andrew Tate are materialistic people.
01:06:38.000 It's been said.
01:06:39.000 I've heard it, I've heard it said around a few times.
01:06:41.000 It's a rumor.
01:06:42.000 Yeah, we like our fast cars, we like our, we like our other finer things in life, but we do have a philosophy which I believe you share as well, and that is right now I'm 32 years of age.
01:06:51.000 I'm living life to the fullest.
01:06:52.000 You have to understand my cars aren't For Instagram.
01:06:56.000 Hey, look at me.
01:06:57.000 You know, me and my brother, we've gone amazing road trips through the mountains.
01:07:00.000 You know, we snake up these windy ass roads.
01:07:03.000 You know, we sit and have coffee with each other.
01:07:07.000 It's a passion of ours.
01:07:08.000 That's why we have so many cars.
01:07:10.000 If I didn't drive them, I wouldn't have them.
01:07:11.000 So we seem very materialistic, but our focus is let's not leave anything on the table.
01:07:18.000 Let's not leave material things behind when I leave this planet.
01:07:22.000 I aim to have a lot of children.
01:07:24.000 I want a very big family.
01:07:25.000 I don't intend, as you said, about being born wealthy, because I am now... I guess if I keep going this way, I'm going to turn from quite rich to wealthy within the next five or six years.
01:07:37.000 I don't intend to give my kids absolutely anything.
01:07:41.000 I intend to leave them with nothing, just like I was left with nothing.
01:07:45.000 Jackie Chan once said, when he was told that he was donating all his money to charity, What about your son?
01:07:50.000 And his line was, if my son is smart enough, he'll make his own money.
01:07:54.000 And if he's not, then he would simply be wasting mine.
01:07:57.000 And I loved that.
01:07:59.000 So, yeah.
01:08:00.000 That's beautiful.
01:08:01.000 That's beautiful.
01:08:02.000 Now, you have this philosophy about not leaving material things behind when you do leave this earth.
01:08:07.000 I have exactly the same thing.
01:08:09.000 For me, it's about not spoiling my kids.
01:08:11.000 For me also, it's about, I guess, money as potential energy.
01:08:15.000 Let's see it.
01:08:15.000 Potential energy to do real things.
01:08:18.000 crushing all this energy down the throat.
01:08:20.000 You get it.
01:08:21.000 Yeah.
01:08:21.000 You get it.
01:08:22.000 You get it.
01:08:23.000 So.
01:08:26.000 So, I mean, same reasoning?
01:08:27.000 Same reasoning or what?
01:08:29.000 Absolutely.
01:08:31.000 Money as potential.
01:08:34.000 An example that I use time after time after time in a teaching situation.
01:08:39.000 Okay, I come to you and I have in my hand a basket of apples that I purchased for five dollars.
01:08:46.000 Yes.
01:08:47.000 I could give you that basket of apples, and you could make a pie.
01:08:53.000 You could share them with some of your girls.
01:08:56.000 You could consume them all yourself.
01:08:58.000 But the fact of the matter is, they're apples.
01:09:02.000 Now, if I was to come to you and hand you a $5 bill, that $5 bill can be anything.
01:09:08.000 It can be seed money for $5 worth of apples.
01:09:14.000 It can be grapes.
01:09:16.000 It can be $5 on an inexpensive cigar.
01:09:23.000 Yeah, a moonshine.
01:09:27.000 Well, Chief Chuck will hook you up with the moonshine.
01:09:30.000 He's starting to take a liking to you, so he might give you a bottle of that for free.
01:09:34.000 I'd love that.
01:09:40.000 So yeah, it's potential.
01:09:42.000 It is potential.
01:09:43.000 And that's what people don't, and that's why people get so weird about money.
01:09:48.000 Yeah.
01:09:49.000 Because they know that it's, it's, it's more than just a, it's a thing.
01:09:53.000 It can be anything.
01:09:55.000 Anything.
01:09:56.000 Granted $5 of anything is very different from $50,000 of anything, but it's still that, that ability to be transmuted into Literally anything that money can buy and sometimes for things that money can't buy.
01:10:12.000 Yes!
01:10:14.000 The fact that you understand that at this age, you are even farther ahead than I thought you were.
01:10:20.000 Well, I was having this discussion with my mother, and I love my mother.
01:10:24.000 God bless her soul. 0.99
01:10:26.000 I love her.
01:10:26.000 She's an absolutely lovely woman, but she doesn't understand why I spend money the way I do.
01:10:31.000 Her last job before me and Angie retired her. 1.00
01:10:34.000 She no longer works.
01:10:35.000 We pay her salary to do nothing, just to be our mother because we love her bits. 0.98
01:10:38.000 So her last job was washing dishes. 1.00
01:10:40.000 So she's from a very, very humble background.
01:10:42.000 I come, obviously, myself from a very poor family.
01:10:45.000 I was explaining to her about a trip I wanted to take from Paris to Istanbul.
01:10:50.000 The New Orient Express has been fitted out with three luxury suites.
01:10:54.000 And I was going to get a luxury suite for myself, one for my brother, and a first-class cabin for my cousin.
01:10:59.000 And all in all, for the seven days, it was going to cost £265,000.
01:11:03.000 And I told my mother this number, and she almost had a heart attack.
01:11:08.000 $250,000.
01:11:08.000 That's about $320,000.
01:11:09.000 And she was like, $320,000. 0.89
01:11:10.000 I mean, you could get a property and this and a house.
01:11:15.000 And I said, Mom, I already have a house.
01:11:17.000 I already have a property.
01:11:19.000 I already have money in the bank.
01:11:20.000 I have crypto assets, etc, etc.
01:11:22.000 I said, you don't understand, Mom.
01:11:24.000 I will be a 32 year old man, probably the youngest man on that train in a first class cabin on the Orient Express.
01:11:32.000 Like, I don't keep 265 with three zeros after it on my phone screen or on the computer, you know?
01:11:40.000 It's just potential energy, and it's wasted only if you do nothing with it.
01:11:44.000 That's wasting money.
01:11:46.000 Wasting money is when you leave it sitting in the bank to do nothing.
01:11:49.000 If you die, That's it.
01:11:51.000 And I tell everyone, my financial advice is spend half your money as though you're going to die in 40 years and half your money as though you're going to die in 40 days.
01:12:01.000 And they say, why is that?
01:12:02.000 I say, because you might.
01:12:04.000 And they laugh, but it's true. 0.82
01:12:06.000 And I'd look like a real jackass if I didn't even have one nice car that I liked now and I got hit by a bus tomorrow. 1.00
01:12:14.000 How stupid would that be? 0.99
01:12:15.000 So no, yeah, it's potential energy. 1.00
01:12:17.000 Leave nothing behind.
01:12:18.000 I knew that we'd have exactly the same mindset on that.
01:12:23.000 But this is unscripted.
01:12:24.000 By the way, for everyone watching, I have spoken to Mr. Red Horse with lots of messages on Instagram and a few Twitter DMs, etc.
01:12:32.000 But the first time we've ever actually spoken in this way was five minutes before this podcast started.
01:12:39.000 It's just a naturally flowing conversation.
01:12:40.000 So no, this is not me.
01:12:43.000 A few other things.
01:12:44.000 I want to talk a little bit about women.
01:12:49.000 A lot of people watch me and they'd like to know what I know about women. 1.00
01:12:53.000 Now, you have someone, I guess it stems from, of course, being a gentleman, which is the essence of your core, but you tweet sometimes about treating men as though they're gods and women as though they're goddesses.
01:13:04.000 And that helps With life, although you discover that many aren't, that helps you get by.
01:13:10.000 Now, this isn't necessarily a philosophy that I have, which is why I'm asking you about.
01:13:14.000 You know, I don't necessarily, I mean, I'm nice to everybody, but I don't necessarily take it to that level.
01:13:21.000 Maybe you could teach me a thing or two.
01:13:22.000 Can you kind of touch on that a little bit for the audience, especially when it comes to comes to women?
01:13:29.000 I can't make the distinction between the genders in this, because I'm looking at humans as individuals, not just what their plumbing is and their wiring.
01:13:43.000 So I'm going to have to defer on that.
01:13:45.000 Now, as to what my intention is when I wrote that.
01:13:52.000 Just like with trying to live my life as a gentleman every moment I'm awake and when I'm asleep, it doesn't always work.
01:14:02.000 Especially with a lot of what I see in the world, especially in the last 11 months, how people are comporting themselves, how they're acting, how they are throwing all logic and good sense out the door because some authority figure tells them to do this or that.
01:14:22.000 My good graces with my fellow man and woman are being tested sorely these days.
01:14:34.000 So not everybody is being treated as a god and a goddess.
01:14:39.000 And that's my scene.
01:14:42.000 That's a failing on my part. 0.98
01:14:44.000 When I can let something as ultimately as insignificant as The way I see someone acting impact me, that's a sign that I need to go back to my space and get my shit together. 0.97
01:14:59.000 I agree. 0.96
01:15:02.000 If I'm going to be hit with a punch, I want to know that it's one coming straight at me, not one that hits me off to the side, or get rabbit punched or something.
01:15:11.000 So the intent of that philosophy, and when I actually shared it with the world, This ties in heavily with the concept of respect and dignity.
01:15:25.000 I've done a short little video in the past on my position on respect and a lot of people would think because I put such weight on kindness and being a gentleman and manners and refinement that I think everyone should be respected equally.
01:15:46.000 I do not.
01:15:49.000 That does not mean you don't interact with someone respectfully and with dignity, certainly.
01:15:56.000 But honest-to-godness respect is something that absolutely has to be earned.
01:16:02.000 And it's earned through interaction.
01:16:04.000 It's earned through what your character reveals to those around you.
01:16:14.000 So there are far more people on this planet that I don't respect than there are people that I do respect for that very reason.
01:16:24.000 Now, there is a possibility for me that if I interact with people, okay, is it possible to treat someone like a god or a goddess that you don't respect?
01:16:36.000 I don't know.
01:16:37.000 I experiment with that often, and I don't have a definitive answer.
01:16:43.000 It has been my experience, like with anything, though, that at the very least, if I treat someone kindly...
01:16:50.000 As opposed to nice.
01:16:51.000 I'm one of those that more and more over the years has grown to reject the term nice.
01:16:56.000 I used to call myself a nice guy.
01:16:59.000 Nice has grown to mean kind of a doormat.
01:17:05.000 Yes, I agree.
01:17:09.000 Kindness is part and parcel of who I am.
01:17:13.000 And I'm not kind to other people for their benefit.
01:17:16.000 I'm kind to other people because it makes me feel good.
01:17:20.000 And the fact that they get something from it is gravy.
01:17:24.000 It's icing on the cake.
01:17:26.000 So take that and amplify it to the level of being kind, from being kind to someone, to seeing.
01:17:34.000 It's a concept in many Eastern spirituality traditions.
01:17:42.000 You may have heard the term namaskar or namaste, which means I bow to the spirit of divinity that I see in you.
01:17:55.000 What you see in someone that you like, what you see in me that you like, Mr. Tate, are things that are in you.
01:18:03.000 If you were to be around me for any length of time and find something about me that you didn't like, it would be something in you that you recognize.
01:18:13.000 I believe that.
01:18:13.000 So to take that and ramp that up and to take it to the next level, to make something magical from it, I would It's not worship.
01:18:29.000 It has nothing to do with worship when I say treat someone like they are a god or a goddess.
01:18:34.000 It is giving them, for me, it is giving them the opportunity to experience the godness that is inherent within them.
01:18:46.000 And when it happens to them, it's going to happen to me.
01:18:48.000 And it's this perpetual motion machine And it's evident when we act horribly to people.
01:18:56.000 And then, you know, you go from bad-mouthing each other to fisticuffs.
01:18:59.000 Yes.
01:19:00.000 And then if it gets really bad, you know, then weapons are out.
01:19:04.000 Yeah, the guns.
01:19:05.000 And yeah, so it works either way.
01:19:08.000 So why not work it to the benefit of all life on the Mother Earth? 0.90
01:19:15.000 That's really all that is.
01:19:16.000 That's a beautiful answer.
01:19:17.000 That's a beautiful answer.
01:19:18.000 And I didn't know what to expect.
01:19:21.000 With that answer, because in my, certainly in my industry, if a guy ever refers to a woman as a goddess, it's a very submissive position.
01:19:28.000 But what you're doing, you're being assertive, then this is the way that we're going to treat each other.
01:19:32.000 This is the way that we are going to deal with one another.
01:19:34.000 And that, that is really beautiful.
01:19:36.000 So listen, I could do this all night, but I've got two more questions for you.
01:19:40.000 The last one, I'm going to say, I may be setting myself up for public embarrassment, but that's perfectly fine.
01:19:46.000 The first question I'm going to ask you, because I'm getting lots and lots of questions here on the chat, but it's all essentially, it boils down to one thing.
01:19:55.000 So I know you guys have asked a bunch of questions, but we could be sitting here for the next three or four hours.
01:20:01.000 And to make this podcast possible, so that it was a good time for you Americans to watch and you Europeans, it's now 1.20 in the morning.
01:20:07.000 I'm sitting up at my computer by myself.
01:20:11.000 It boils down to this.
01:20:12.000 Essentially, what advice would you give, not a younger version of yourself, these young men?
01:20:17.000 There are lots of young men watching us.
01:20:19.000 A lot of young men who had no idea who you were.
01:20:21.000 They're from Eastern Europe.
01:20:22.000 They're from the UK. 0.65
01:20:23.000 A lot of people who do know who you are, of course, from our Twitter audiences, etc.
01:20:26.000 What advice would you give to young men in general, as broadly as you could?
01:20:32.000 Because you're a very, very intelligent guy.
01:20:35.000 And everything you said tonight has been mind-blowing for me.
01:20:38.000 So, please, tell them something.
01:20:41.000 Bless them.
01:20:43.000 There have been different variations of this exercise used across disciplines.
01:20:51.000 If you could go back in time and talk to your 20-year-old self, what would you say?
01:20:57.000 Well, even if I knew it was me, I wouldn't listen to me.
01:21:00.000 I mean, if I told myself, you know, buy Apple stock, or if you run into a couple of guys named Tate, you might want to hook up with them, you know, sooner.
01:21:10.000 A better way of doing that, and it's a challenge, it's not a gimme, you have to work at it for it to work.
01:21:20.000 It's kind of a reverse of that.
01:21:23.000 I would suggest to all the young men and maybe even the several, however many young women that might encounter this discussion at some point, sit down and don't think of what would the future you say to you about right now.
01:21:43.000 If you could go back in time and say something to your younger self, do the reverse.
01:21:47.000 If Tristan Tate, at 32 now, could actually sit down and talk to the 60-year-old Tristan Tate, what would the 60-year-old Tristan Tate tell the 32-year-old?
01:22:04.000 How the hell do I know?
01:22:05.000 I haven't lived it yet.
01:22:07.000 Yes, you have.
01:22:10.000 And I'm not one of those that says time doesn't exist.
01:22:12.000 Time absolutely does exist.
01:22:13.000 It's one of the four primary expressions of energy.
01:22:17.000 Time, space, matter, movement.
01:22:19.000 So it does exist.
01:22:21.000 And it is possible.
01:22:22.000 If you get in the right space, you get in the right mindset and open yourself up.
01:22:28.000 Because it's not necessarily that the 60-year-old Tristan would be talking to the 32-year-old.
01:22:35.000 But think right now.
01:22:38.000 What if the words you're hearing, and I'm speaking to you, Tristan, what if the words you're hearing right now are actually the words that you would say to yourself if you could do this exercise?
01:22:48.000 Do you get the gist of where I'm going with this?
01:22:50.000 Well, this perfectly leads on, and I said I was going to set myself up for whatever kind of public grilling I may get.
01:22:56.000 This actually perfectly leads on to my final question that I was going to ask you.
01:23:02.000 What advice, from what you know about me, how I live my life, What advice would you give to me about how I live, how I act?
01:23:13.000 I'm all ears.
01:23:16.000 Be cognizant of the fact that you are an influence to people you will never meet, to people who you will never know exist.
01:23:27.000 Be cognizant of the fact that most of these people are young men, younger than you.
01:23:32.000 I'm talking teenage boys.
01:23:34.000 Yeah.
01:23:36.000 Young adults.
01:23:38.000 And it's not their fault.
01:23:43.000 Our culture and society, as we basically started this discussion, is on the downturn.
01:23:52.000 And they haven't been taught things that were given even as recently as 50 years ago.
01:24:00.000 They're going to see you with The hoes, they're going to see you with the cars, and they are going to rightly or wrongly take something from that that perhaps you have not intended. 1.00
01:24:17.000 Now I'm not telling you to not have the beautiful women.
01:24:20.000 I'm not telling you to change your occupation.
01:24:23.000 I'm not telling you to not have the cars.
01:24:25.000 I am absolutely not telling you to not enjoy good cognac and good scotch.
01:24:29.000 We need to sit down.
01:24:30.000 I got to get you away from those blended scotches and we need to get to some single malts. 1.00
01:24:37.000 That's my scene.
01:24:40.000 But just be cognizant of the fact that I don't want you to change anything.
01:24:47.000 I would suggest, I would counsel you to be glaringly aware that you are being watched.
01:24:57.000 Even if you weren't a public figure, you're being watched.
01:25:03.000 You know, there's a saying that it's not unique to me, and I wrote a, or did a small video on it, a post about leading from the front.
01:25:11.000 You are, whether you want to be or not, you're a leader.
01:25:14.000 You are, you are a, you know what, I guess the modern term, social media is, you know, you're an influencer. 1.00
01:25:21.000 Fuck that. 1.00
01:25:24.000 But lead from the front. 1.00
01:25:28.000 Don't, you know, don't be a general that's at the back.
01:25:30.000 And I'm not saying that I think you are.
01:25:34.000 You put yourself out there, go more out there, but just recognize that there are people out there watching you.
01:25:43.000 And you can say, this glass is empty, and you can hold up the empty glass, and there will be some potential troll, some sick person, some person that is just not getting it, that would make an argument about the fact, well, it's not empty there, it's full of air.
01:26:04.000 I mean, I put out a tweet today that I'm becoming more and more vocal in my distaste for masks and for the just kowtowing that people are doing.
01:26:21.000 And we're a year into this.
01:26:23.000 We see how this works now.
01:26:25.000 It is a bad case of the flu.
01:26:28.000 Something else is going on here.
01:26:29.000 And I'm not talking conspiracy theories.
01:26:32.000 People are just And so I'm becoming, it's getting out of my wheelhouse of beauty and transcendence and magic and good things.
01:26:43.000 I feel like I can't be quiet anymore because then when the dust does settle, people will say to me, well, what did you do during all this?
01:26:52.000 Well, I just kind of, I just kind of stayed out of the way. 1.00
01:26:55.000 Oh, you're a fucking coward. 1.00
01:26:59.000 So that's why I've had to step up. 1.00
01:27:02.000 Yes, I know.
01:27:02.000 And back to my point about the empty glass, I put out a tweet today talking about the young men that 75 years ago stormed the beaches of Normandy.
01:27:12.000 Yes, I know.
01:27:13.000 I read the tweet.
01:27:14.000 And now people can't even have the courage to stand up to Karen and the manager. 1.00
01:27:20.000 Take the fucking mask off! 0.99
01:27:23.000 But there are people that read into it. 1.00
01:27:25.000 I didn't say take the fucking mask off. 0.99
01:27:26.000 See, I try to maintain my form and my frame and be a little more subtle. 0.99
01:27:32.000 Somebody answered back and read into it.
01:27:34.000 Yeah, yeah, they stormed the beaches of Normandy 75 years ago, and now they can't even wear a mask.
01:27:41.000 They can't even do the simple thing of wearing a mask.
01:27:43.000 Completely opposed to what my point was.
01:27:46.000 Yeah, and that's the way it's going to be.
01:27:49.000 And that's why I'm telling you, Mr. Tate.
01:27:51.000 Be aware of how you present yourself.
01:27:54.000 It is very rare that I will ever compose a tweet, send out an email, write a blog post, anything, without sitting on it and thinking, all right, what possible way could this be misinterpreted?
01:28:07.000 Do I need to change it?
01:28:08.000 And that's part of the reason that I'm so eloquent in the way that I write.
01:28:12.000 Because I want to make sure, okay, what word best suits this?
01:28:18.000 Do I need to say large or do I need to say grand?
01:28:21.000 I don't write like I do to be verbose and grandiose.
01:28:25.000 I write for concision and to get across my point as clearly and as elegantly as possible.
01:28:32.000 Live your life that way.
01:28:34.000 Live your life as elegantly and concisely as possible.
01:28:39.000 Well, Mr. Billy Redhorse, thank you very much.
01:28:42.000 This has been absolutely mind-blowing.
01:28:46.000 These podcasts are supposed to be an hour.
01:28:47.000 I don't think they ever will be with my guests.
01:28:49.000 We've been an hour and a half into the show.
01:28:52.000 I don't think anybody who's watched this, there's about 250 to 300 people watching live at this moment, a lot more people are going to see this.
01:29:00.000 I think everyone has something to take away from this conversation and everyone hopefully has learned something.
01:29:04.000 I certainly have.
01:29:05.000 Do you want to just end the show by telling everybody where they can find you?
01:29:09.000 Because you've made a lot more fans today, believe me.
01:29:13.000 Well, I certainly hope so and hopefully if I have made any enemies, they will be good enemies.
01:29:22.000 I can be found at GentlemanMystic.com, TheGentlemanMystic.com, of course Twitter at Billy Red Horse, Instagram at Billy Red Horse.
01:29:35.000 Because of all of the craziness going on in the social media world right now with I do not.
01:29:42.000 Even as anodyne as I can be, the way I post stuff, the fact that I am getting a little more agitated about masks gives me cause to think that I'm on the radar, too, about possibly being chopped.
01:29:57.000 So I have opened up an account, as you well know, Tristan, at Gab.
01:30:02.000 It's another outfit, and that's also Billy Red Horse.
01:30:07.000 There's a consistency here.
01:30:08.000 The one place where it's out of character is another social media platform called Minds.
01:30:13.000 Minds.com.
01:30:15.000 It's actually pretty elegant, but it's really hard to get traction there.
01:30:25.000 And at that location, it's reversed because instead of being at Billy Red Horse, it's at Gentleman Mystic.
01:30:31.000 I actually had an account with them years ago and closed it because, like I said, it's hard to get traction.
01:30:36.000 But once a name is gone, you can't get it back there.
01:30:40.000 It's not like with Twitter.
01:30:43.000 But, you know, hopefully when things return to some level of normalcy, I'll be able to get back out and start teaching.
01:30:51.000 And certainly, if the War Room ever shows back up in Atlanta, you know, I'd love to be an invited guest just to sit in and, you know, meet the fellas.
01:31:00.000 Because, I mean, I know, obviously, I know AJ, Mr. Cortez, I know Moneybag, Mr. Dillon, all the crew.
01:31:12.000 And I look forward to it.
01:31:14.000 Absolutely.
01:31:15.000 So all I have to say to you, Mr. Red Horse, thank you very much for joining me.
01:31:18.000 And for you guys watching this at home, you're welcome.
01:31:22.000 That's all I have to say to you.
01:31:24.000 You're welcome.
01:31:25.000 Join me again.
01:31:26.000 Follow me on Twitter, Liv's Talisman.
01:31:29.000 My next guest, I guess, will be announced within a few days time.
01:31:32.000 It's going to be hard to top this.