In this episode, I talk about my experience with a hit piece on me by Vice News, and why I don't want to do it again. I also talk about why I think the mainstream media has lost all credibility in the Matrix and why it's time for them to listen to the other side of the story. And then I have a conversation with Matt from Vice News about the hit piece and why they should apologize to me for the way they handled the situation. Thank you for listening to this episode and share it with your friends, family, and the ones you care most about. I hope you enjoy it and tweet me if you have any thoughts or opinions on anything I said. Timestamps: 3:00 - The hit piece 4:30 - Piers Morgan is a hero 5:20 - The Matrix has lost its credibility 6:15 - The mainstream media is a joke 7:00 8:40 - I m not a bad person 9:30 11:00 The Matrix is a monster 12:00 My story 13:00 I m here to lead people to the light 14:00 Vice News 15:00 Do you agree with me? 16:10 - Why I don t want another interview 17:00 Is the Matrix a monster? 18:00 Are you? 19:00 What do you think of the Matrix? 21:00 Can you see me as a good person ? 22:00 Does the Matrix have a chance to be a better than the other guy? 23:00 How do I think I m a good guy ? 25:00 Why are you think I should do another interview? 26:30 Do you think they re a better person? 27:00 Should I get another interview now? 29:30 What are you want me to do another one? 30:00 Will I get more of an interview with another interview next time? 31:00 Would you like me to come back for another interview?? 32: Do you have a story? 35:30 Why do you want to talk to me again? 36:30 Can you give me another interview soon? 37:30 Is there a story I d like to see me a better story about what I m going to do next? 39:40 Do you like it?
00:00:38.000I knew it would be a hit piece, of course.
00:00:40.000I'm a professional. But I also knew anyone with a brain would see through the hit piece and see the beauty of the war room and want to join.
00:00:46.000So I allowed them to come do a hit piece.
00:00:49.000And then... I got interviewed by Piers Morgan.
00:00:52.000Ah, look, they're calling. It's our friend from Vice, but he can wait.
00:00:58.000Then I got interviewed by Piers Morgan and he came at me hard and all of the comments were saying, bro, takes a G. The Matrix tries to tell the world that everyone hates me, but the truth is, everyone actually loves me.
00:01:10.000So when Piers tried to come for me hard expecting to be a hero, he was actually attacked And he felt like, oops, I made a mistake.
00:01:18.000Which stopped Vice releasing their hit piece.
00:01:50.000Just like I said, everyone saw through it, saw it was garbage, to the point where Vice had to turn the comments off because everyone was insulting them.
00:01:57.000They even falsely edited me stuttering.
00:02:00.000When have you ever seen me stutter on any video ever?
00:02:03.000To try and make me look frustrated, like I've been caught out by this dork called Matt.
00:02:09.000So they released the hit piece and it was totally detrimental for them.
00:02:13.000Nobody believed them. Bombed their reputation even worse.
00:02:16.000Vice used to be something and now they're completely off the deep end.
00:02:19.000Nobody gives a shit about them. Complete Matrix propaganda.
00:03:03.000So we're going to wait for Matt to call us, and we're going to hear what Matt has to say about the fact that they were dishonest, and they weren't particularly good at...
00:04:02.000Well... It's a beautiful reality, Matt.
00:04:06.000It's a beautiful life, and I am clearly one of God's chosen ones.
00:04:11.000And I'm here to spread a positive message and continue with my mission to prevent the degeneracy which is purported by organizations like VICE, drug taking, and other forms of pornography, a bunch of other stuff you all are involved in.
00:04:28.000I'm going to lead people to the truth and to the light.
00:04:31.000We're all going to be better people and have a better society for that.
00:04:35.000And I think you learned that when you turn the comments off in your little video that most people understand I'm a force for good and that hit pieces don't really work because you've lost all credibility in the mainstream matrix mechanisms of the media.
00:05:06.000Well, that's what I think is the reason that they were turned off for.
00:05:10.000But anyway, regardless, I mean, look, the main reason I'm calling is I want to see whether you were up for doing another interview, not for Vice, but for the BBC. Why would you want to interview me?
00:05:24.000I'm a bad person, I thought, according to your little story.
00:05:30.000Well, I just tried to report both sides of every story, so...
00:05:35.000Oh, you do both sides? Is that how you think you were?
00:05:39.000Well, that includes your side as well.
00:05:41.000So, you know, it was obviously difficult to interview you while you were in jail.
00:05:49.000Now you're out. You know, we can actually...
00:05:51.000Have a chance to hear your side of things.
00:05:55.000The problem is, Matt, everyone on the planet wants to interview me.
00:06:01.000So the question is, why would I choose you when I have unlimited offers from people who are far more successful and better than you at the job?
00:06:10.000Because I'd be doing, and I'm not trying to disrespect you, I'm being honest, I'd be doing you a favor.
00:06:43.000We have a history of you doing dishonest journalism on me, so I would choose you.
00:06:48.000Interesting. Any journalist that you speak to is going to ask you the similar questions to the ones I asked you.
00:06:59.000I have no problem with your questions.
00:07:02.000Questions are not a problem. The reason that I want to do an interview with you and of course you can do an interview with anyone you want and you know that's entirely your choice.
00:07:13.000I'm just you know one of many people asking you I guess but we have a history and we got cut short last time And there are still unanswered questions that I want to put to you.
00:07:24.000I can only tell you why I want to interview you, you know?
00:07:31.000I get to choose which reporter in the world, all these reporters who want to say bad things about me, I get to choose which reporter on the planet gets to become relevant via proxy because I am the most relevant person and I get to do the charitable act of allowing somebody to sit next to me and ask me questions.
00:07:47.000It's kind of interesting. I need to think heavily about it.
00:07:50.000I can't just give out such a fantastic opportunity to disingenuous nobodies.
00:09:44.000Stunters were edited in to try and make it look like you stumped me with your asinine questions, which of course is absolutely impossible.
00:09:52.000I honestly know, what you might be referring to is sometimes we cut to b-roll of someone's face when we're editing an interview because, you know, we spoke for almost an hour, but it gets cut down to only a few minutes, so there are going to be some edits and we are going to need to cut to your face at some point.
00:10:14.000I would say we don't dishonestly edit it, but the idea that we would just release an hour-long, unedited interview doesn't really make sense, right?
00:10:20.000Because the whole documentary is only 45 minutes.
00:10:24.000Anyway, the point is, I can't stop you filming...
00:10:29.000In your own home, you know, releasing whatever you want to release, editing it however you want to edit it.
00:10:34.000You know, I can't stop you doing that.
00:10:35.000So if that's what you want to do, then you obviously can do it.
00:10:39.000And then, you know, when people say, oh, Matt, you've unfairly edited this or whatever, you can say, well, here's the full unedited version.
00:10:48.000You're right. You're right. I can film our interview to protect myself from your dishonest journalism.
00:11:33.000You go into your boss's room and ask if you're allowed to spend a large portion of your salary on a five pound box of chocolates, and you let me know.
00:11:41.000And if you can, then I will strongly consider allowing you the opportunity to speak with me.
00:11:48.000Are you asking all the journalists to bring you a box of chocolates?
00:11:52.000You let me know about the chocolates, man.
00:15:48.000And they were right. That's Matt Shays' reality.
00:15:55.000In Colombia. And he was sick with cocaine in the interview, talking about how the drug people aren't actually that bad, they're the same as the cocaine people.
00:16:04.000But then he does hit pieces on good people.
00:16:06.000Christian, he is a dork, a nerd, and a geek.
00:16:13.000DNG. He's DNG! DNG! I haven't heard of it.
00:16:26.000No. He went to the airport, checked in, whizz air, economy, put all his bags on the thing, through to quickly, let's wait in line for security, went through all that shit at 4am this morning to come here and stand outside my house like a dickhead.
00:16:44.000I wonder how much of his annual salary this cost?
00:18:33.000He wants the chocolate now? Yep. Okay, because I'm a little bit worried that he's just gonna, you know, brag about us bringing him chocolate on Twitter and not actually do the interview.
00:18:44.000I don't know. You have to bring the chocolate first.
00:18:47.000Okay, so is he too afraid to come out and say it himself?
00:21:30.000Maybe he's stuck there. I wonder what crappy hotel he's staying in.
00:21:34.000He's not saying he's a good one, is he?
00:21:39.000I think he now must realize what's happened.
00:21:44.000I think he now must realize that he's the checkmate in the grand game of life.
00:21:50.000They're filming Marina take the trash out. I guess that's the story for the Vice War Quarter.
00:21:55.000They're filming Marina, our housekeeper, take the trash out.
00:21:59.000I guess that's his vice story nowadays.
00:22:02.000Misogynistic influencer Andrew Tate has garbage which he uses to litter the landfills and damage the ozone layer because of global warming.
00:22:50.000Matt's the kind of guy. Come on, Matt!
00:22:51.000Matt's the kind of guy- Get in your head!
00:22:53.000If a Mexican guy who will arrange to meet your girl for dinner, show up at the restaurant with his £8.64 in his pocket, ready to try and show her a good time, her not show up and him sit at the table for 5 hours.
00:25:43.000And all my ladies say And all my girls say So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so You on your jets, you hatin' hard Ain't gon' feed you, I'ma let you starve Bustin' for air, I'm ventilation
00:26:11.000You out of breath, hope you ain't waitin' Tellin' the world how much you miss me But we never were, so why you trippin'?
00:26:19.000You a mom and pop, I'm a corporation I'm the press conference, you a conversation Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Why you so obsessed with me?
00:26:29.000And boy, how we would know Lyin' that you're sexin' me I'm a corporation, you a conversation
00:26:38.000I'm the press conference, you a conversation This is in the atmosphere and I have to make sure that I sound my chief!
00:27:06.000That's why you got to breathe smoke in.
00:27:07.000Got to breathe in smoke, massage my super brain to purify my existence because there's some DNG at my gate who won't give up.
00:28:15.000Just when you thought he couldn't look more geeky.
00:28:18.000This is helping. His vibes are being repelled.
00:28:22.000And my Aikino will not let him poison me.
00:28:27.000I refuse if my life's mission to never end up anything like Batman.
00:28:31.000Yeah. If my life's ambition to never be anything like him.
00:28:35.000And it's a little worm who comes along and does hit pieces on people while trying to pretend to be their friend, trying to get hits on the internet, and everyone realizes he's a little worm, and then he's so desperate to matter that he has to beg the same person he betrayed for attention again, because he is a complete dork.
00:28:52.000Who would ever talk to him as relevant now?
00:28:55.000I mean, you're not talking to him, but...
00:29:40.000So, look, obviously, what we don't want is to give you the chocolate and not do the interview, right?
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00:29:54.000So if you or Tate can come up with a way where we're both happy, then...
00:30:00.000You're not gonna get an interview without the chocolate.
00:30:02.000Yeah, no, that's fine. So how about if you tell Tate he can come out and then we can hand him the chocolate as we enter and you can film it?
00:30:11.000Okay, I'm gonna tell him. But he's pretty busy, just so you know.
00:30:20.000Okay, so he wants you to go out and get the chocolate because he's scared he's not gonna get an interview if he's gonna give you the chocolate.
00:30:27.000Why didn't you say you will get an interview once you get the chocolate?
00:31:03.000Okay so I spoke with Andrew And you either give him the chocolate And you'll have an interview Or you don't and you don't have no interview Okay, okay, fine. Deal.
00:33:59.000Look, so I know you want to film us giving you the chocolate.
00:34:03.000So, you know, I'm happy for you to do that.
00:34:06.000I just, as I'm sure you know, I don't want to risk a situation where I give you the chocolate and then We don't get in.
00:34:12.000So why don't we do something like you come out and, you know, we speak face to face and I give you the chocolate as we walk in.
00:34:20.000I don't think you're a good intentioned actor, Matthew, placed on your previous performance.
00:34:26.000So I need payment in advance, unfortunately.
00:34:29.000Well, look, can you suggest a way in which we can find, you know, feel some sort of assurance that you're going to speak to us?
00:34:37.000Like, maybe if you come out now and we can hand it to you face to face, The problem is, the last time I trusted you, you acted in bad faith, so this time you must trust me.
00:35:07.000...allowing you unprecedented access to my private network and home in which you are a bad faith actor.
00:35:13.000If you still are scared about losing your heavy financial investment of six pounds in a box of chocolates, then you will not get your interview.
00:35:21.000Well, it's... It's a hard line, Matthew.
00:36:52.000You didn't know? Well, look, you know, it is frustrating that I can't I give you these chocolates because I literally have no choice in the matter.
00:37:07.000If there's any, you know, way that you can think of where I can come in and hand them to you as I walk in or anything, then that would be great.
00:37:27.000Maybe you'll have to let me know when maybe you're next free or something.
00:37:32.000Do I miss out on the opportunity of a lifetime?
00:37:37.000No, I mean, you'll probably be able to get an interview with other media outlets, I'm sure, but I do think the BBC is a really big and important platform, and I think that...
00:37:55.000Let's be professional. Let's be clever with our language here.
00:37:58.000Let's be on point. I can definitely get another interview.
00:38:01.000And I can get another interview with the BBC. I can just say, send someone else.
00:38:04.000They'll do anything I want. They probably would want to send me.
00:38:12.000Do you want me to test that theory Matthew?
00:38:14.000You're telling me me Andrew Tate most famous man in the world can't get an interview with the BBC unless you're involved Is that the level of hubris you operate under?
00:38:31.000I'm coming here. Okay, look, the other thing is, because of the fact that we have this sort of, for better or for worse, reputation, where somehow, you know, we've become sort of internet nemeses, even though that's not how I see it, then it probably would be reach a much wider audience and be viewed and talked about a lot more.
00:38:57.000That's just the brass tacks of it is what I think.
00:38:59.000So, If you want to do a quick one through the gate, I think that would be great.
00:39:11.000My hands are tied to the chocolate situation, but I don't know if you have any suggestions.
00:39:17.000No, I don't want to do a quick interview.
00:39:19.000I want to do an in-depth, detailed interview.
00:39:21.000My first interview under house arrest is going to be world-breaking.
00:39:25.000It's going to be massive, perhaps the biggest Internet interview of the year, perhaps of the decade.
00:39:33.000I own the culture and I want to do it properly.
00:39:35.000But I can't do it without the energy which will be procured from chocolate.
00:39:41.000And then I'll feel confident within myself to get the energy required to deal with the fake news media.
00:39:48.000When I come through the door from that point there, I'm pretty sure that I can just give them to you, so then you will have them.
00:39:57.000I'm still bowing down to your demand there.
00:41:14.000Um, but look, I know it didn't work out this time.
00:41:33.000Let me know if you want to do it again in the future.
00:41:35.000And while we didn't, you know, natural film an interview, obviously we have the phone calls that we had outside your house and I guess we can use those unless you Yeah, I do have an issue.
00:41:47.000I haven't signed a consent form. Okay, well, in that case, I guess, let me know if you change your mind at any point.
00:41:59.000Maybe in May, like your lawyer said, we can do another thing.
00:42:04.000Perhaps, but yeah, I didn't sign a consent form, and it's a shame that BBC, with their big budgets, made you fly economy whiz.
00:42:09.000That must be very annoying for you to fly in and out for no reason.
00:42:11.000I feel sorry for you, man. You'll survive.