The Alberta Roundup with Isaac Lamoureux - Danielle Smith’s Debate Knockout

00:00:00.000 hey everyone welcome back to the alberta roundup we are back for week three of election watch

00:00:19.500 i am once again joined by chris sims that's the alberta director of the canadian taxpayers

00:00:24.600 federation erica broody's a senior advisor on the united conservative party campaign

00:00:29.920 and evan benzes he's a senior campaign strategist with crestview strategies and the ucp's former of

00:00:36.700 director of communications we head to them now to discuss this week on the alberta election campaign

00:00:42.020 so one of the first things that i wanted to talk to you all about this week is the compassionate

00:00:46.020 intervention act danielle smith kicked off the campaign on monday with this huge announcement

00:00:51.400 in my opinion it is one of the biggest policies the party has announced so far

00:00:56.020 basically what it would do is it would force addicts who are a danger to themselves or to others

00:01:01.280 into some type of recovery now we know that the government was looking at this because that was

00:01:06.060 leaked by a tip request from the globe and mail this is a huge policy from the government it shows that

00:01:11.060 they are really taking the addictions crisis seriously but of course it is not without

00:01:14.820 controversy erica can you tell me a little bit about what the reception to this policy has been

00:01:20.040 yeah well i definitely think you're right it was a very moving um announcement on monday definitely

00:01:26.420 you know there was a lot of stakeholders there from the community people that are uh you know

00:01:31.280 are struggling with addiction speaking out in support of this um so i do think you know it creates a

00:01:37.520 position where the ndp is in quite a different contrast they're not taking a compassionate approach

00:01:42.680 for um addicts and getting them off the street so everyone can can feel safe um you know i think it

00:01:48.140 landed very well i think people were receptive um to this this movement because public safety is such

00:01:53.700 a critical thing that everyone is facing right now and in order to do that we need to get to the root

00:01:58.420 cause which is is dealing with those the addiction and mental health crisis erica you're absolutely

00:02:04.160 right the premier was surrounded by former addicts and families that have been touched by addiction

00:02:08.520 and there were some very moving testimonies on monday i want to play one of those clips for you

00:02:12.680 right now this is from a woman named abby plessa she said she was addicted to drugs beginning at age 12

00:02:17.720 and if her family had not received a court order to force her into recovery she believes she was

00:02:22.860 dead so we're going to play that for you now i did start with the use of marijuana at 12 years old

00:02:28.500 and quickly progressed to using methamphetamines and opioids at the age of 14. i was lost alone and

00:02:35.780 hopeless i experienced multiple overdoses suicide attempts trips to the police station and psych ward

00:02:42.900 these visits were short and provided only a temporary solution i had hit i had hit rock bottom and i

00:02:50.860 didn't know how to get back up i truly believed i wasn't going to make it past 16 years of age

00:02:56.140 i hated anyone or anything that stood between myself and my drug use and i was a danger to myself

00:03:02.060 and others living in a world of darkness without a way out then something miraculous happened

00:03:08.220 at the age of 16 my family or my family finally experienced enough pain and had the courage to

00:03:14.540 step into my addiction and get a court order that placed me into detox before entering a long-term

00:03:19.840 treatment program my parents were scared for my life and had no other choice i made multiple stops in

00:03:26.660 the road before this and this final intervention saved my life it allowed them to show me the love and

00:03:32.720 support i needed to overcome my addiction and gave both them and myself the tools and the support to

00:03:38.420 recover i'm proud to say that i'm now 19 years old with three years of sobriety attending school

00:03:45.860 and working towards a degree in nursing i have a great relationship with my family and friends and

00:03:50.900 i can now live life on life's terms without the use of drugs and alcohol when this policy was first

00:03:56.800 announced we know that ndp leader rachel notley was not a fan of it at the time she said it was too

00:04:02.200 punitive i had the opportunity to ask her on monday how she felt about it and she didn't use

00:04:06.920 quite as strong of language she simply said she didn't think it would work here's what that sounded

00:04:12.360 like hi rachel manuel with true north just ahead of this announcement daniel smith announced that a

00:04:17.320 re-elected ucp government would try to pass the compassionate intervention act which essentially

00:04:22.600 force drug addicts into treatment what is your response to this well you know let me start by

00:04:29.400 saying i think we can agree that there needs to be a tremendous amount of work focus and effort

00:04:36.440 from the provincial government whoever it is in terms of addressing this issue because it's it's so

00:04:42.760 critical and so damaging across so many communities and of course most importantly to so many people

00:04:49.000 unfortunately as with the announcement they made last week this was another example of daniel smith making

00:04:55.640 an announcement without first talking with the experts and the people on the front line who are

00:05:01.400 confronting this problem and as a result uh she doesn't have the support of those folks and the idea

00:05:07.320 doesn't have the support of those folks and and it's another reason why uh we can't really trust her

00:05:12.280 leadership uh i think the the uh plan that they have uh to invest in more uh recovery is excellent i think the plan

00:05:22.680 they have to eliminate the accommodation fee is excellent uh but i think that unfortunately the

00:05:28.920 the rest of it and the failure to to take a more comprehensive approach um is going to lead to a

00:05:36.040 a failure to succeed i'm afraid and and that is coming from folks on the front line who we've been

00:05:42.440 engaging with uh quite extensively for some time on this issue evan i want to go to you next with the

00:05:48.600 polls being so close do you think this is a policy that will resonate with moderates in calgary that

00:05:53.880 are feeling unsafe given the amount of violent criminal activity we're seeing in the city right

00:05:58.360 now especially along the transit lines yeah it uh you know there's a pretty obvious contrast that

00:06:05.000 united conservatives have when it comes to addictions treatment versus the ndp uh during their term

00:06:10.200 they focus very heavily on so-called safe supply which certainly uh makes sure that the drugs that

00:06:18.040 folks are using um aren't as dangerous but it does nothing to help them in their long-term recovery

00:06:25.000 and so i i think united conservatives and danielle smith should be applauded they're actually trying

00:06:29.240 to save people's lives making sure that they have pathways to recovery and some folks simply just

00:06:36.600 no longer have the capacity to help themselves and so i think this policy is worth trying and it's

00:06:42.040 it's it's a serious issue it's one that obviously has something to do with safety but i think more

00:06:46.680 importantly just has to do with um seeing each individual in society as someone of value and

00:06:52.840 and worth uh saving and rehabilitating so i think it was a great announcement i think it's something

00:06:57.800 that albertans should be proud of and uh it shouldn't be non-partisan i think the ndp should

00:07:01.720 also take a serious look at the ucp approach absolutely just when we talk about safe supply i just

00:07:07.560 want to mention for my viewers that rachel notley was also asked about that at a press conference on

00:07:11.560 monday and she's doing her best to distance herself from her past comments supporting safe supply

00:07:16.280 saying that an ndp government isn't really interested in that she's actually been fairly

00:07:19.800 supportive of what the ucp government has done on the addictions file such as removing the 40 a day

00:07:25.800 fee for care she's touted those as being good policies but she did say you know she's not really

00:07:30.680 in agreement with this forced treatment she doesn't think it's going to work so whether she's actually

00:07:34.360 changed her stance on that or if she's just trying to appeal to moderates is definitely something that you

00:07:39.160 the viewer can ask yourself and i think you can probably figure out the answer the next thing

00:07:43.240 that i want to move to now is the polling numbers so last weekend as we were headed into the weekend

00:07:47.880 some polling numbers came out that had some of the conservatives i talked to a little bit nervous

00:07:52.440 they were showing a consistent upwards trend for the alberta ndp and conservatives were starting to

00:07:57.160 wonder if they had something to worry about on the ground then come monday a new poll was leaked

00:08:01.880 from janet brown she is the most respected pollster in alberta because she gets it right so often

00:08:07.240 and often her takes are a lot different than everyone else's she's typically a bit of an

00:08:11.400 outlier but she has a different method one that reaches more traditional conservative voters

00:08:16.120 for example she makes a really big effort to reach people on landlines and she'll call repeatedly

00:08:21.240 throughout the day to make sure she can get a hold of a wide variety of people so when that poll was

00:08:25.720 released on monday it actually showed 56 seats for the ucp compared to the ndp's 31 seats and most notably

00:08:33.560 perhaps it showed that the ucp had 51 support in in battleground calgary compared to the ndp's 39

00:08:42.040 so evan i'm going to go to you most of the other polls have been showing you know a little bit up for

00:08:45.640 the ucp a little bit down for the ndp vice versa this was definitely an outlier how are things looking

00:08:51.720 for the ucp right now yeah you know i it really comes down to ground game now but i think the ucp should

00:08:58.600 feel optimistic about uh some of the trend lines that we've seen him pulling uh there's a couple

00:09:03.000 of posters that i watch i think have a lot of credibility one was the janet brown one that you

00:09:07.080 you mentioned on the lead in here but also i saw ipsos came up this week and showed that there is a

00:09:12.680 lead for the ucp in calgary that rachel notley's numbers aren't as hot as the ndp campaign seems

00:09:19.560 to want to suggest so i think there's a couple of really good fundamentals and trend lines for the

00:09:24.200 ucp now there's we're in the final stretch here i think uh you know i'm sure we'll talk about in a

00:09:28.440 bit but the the debate this week i think the ndp kind of missed their window to uh dislodge any ucp

00:09:35.000 voters from the daniel smith camp and to create any kind of wave of undecideds in their direction so

00:09:40.920 for both teams now i think ucp have some reason to be confident but they really got to hustle on

00:09:46.120 their ground game advanced polls open next week and that will be the focus and i i really believe if

00:09:51.080 the ucp can get their uh vote motivated and to turn out that they'll have a good night on election

00:09:57.720 and chris you're based down in lethbridge but of course you talk to people from all over the

00:10:01.480 province what are you hearing are you noticing any trends in the polling right now so polling to me

00:10:07.480 is kind of wizard magic i know pollsters and the way they're actually able to do this is kind of

00:10:12.360 mind-boggling to me however uh we talk to our supporters all the time within the taxpayers federation

00:10:18.280 and we talk to them about really substantive stuff like balancing the budget cutting taxes

00:10:24.200 making life more affordable and what we're hearing back from our supporters is that same message and

00:10:30.680 so whichever party doesn't matter which penny your color is you know orange blue polka dots if they

00:10:37.160 focus on those issues of affordability of lower taxes and balanced budgets i think that that will

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00:11:16.520 so the next thing i wanted to talk about with you guys is the ethics commissioner report which

00:11:20.520 dropped on thursday just ahead of the debate now there's really two parts to this report the one part

00:11:26.200 of the report is that the ethics commissioner found no evidence of emails from the premier's office

00:11:31.480 two crown prosecutors pressuring them about coots blockade or covet 19 prosecutions that story first

00:11:37.880 broke in january in which cbc news relied on anonymous sources to say the emails existed after

00:11:43.480 they first published the story they then went back and added a note saying that cbc hadn't seen the

00:11:47.720 emails in question so in many regards this report really absolved danielle smith of those claims of those

00:11:53.720 emails existing cbc is the only one to allegedly have that story and these emails no one's been able to

00:11:59.640 find them the non-partisan civil service also conducted a review and did not uncover the email

00:12:04.200 so that was definitely some good news for danielle smith however i noticed that in the legacy media

00:12:09.160 reports of the ethics commissioner they totally bypassed that major omission and seemed to focus

00:12:14.440 on the negative aspects of the report which was that danielle smith was also found guilty of breaching

00:12:19.480 the ethics act because she had talked to justice to her justice minister that's tyler shandro about

00:12:24.920 whether it was still in the public interest to pursue cases relating to covet 19 we know that

00:12:29.480 danielle smith did not approve of the government overreach that we saw during the covet 19 pandemic

00:12:34.040 that is something she campaigned on during the united conservative party leadership race

00:12:37.960 of course the big question here is is this a story that's going to resonate with voters

00:12:42.440 i think if breaches of ethics law did resonate with voters prime minister justin tudot probably

00:12:46.920 would no longer be prime minister but erica you're in the war room what's your take on this

00:12:51.320 story do you think it's going to impact voters and were you guys surprised that the report dropped on thursday

00:12:56.120 yeah i mean i think it's it's unique and kind of odd um that it would have landed yesterday um i'm

00:13:04.360 really glad we're actually having this conversation because you did mention snc lavalon um and other

00:13:10.040 reporters um you know have been talking and comparing the two which is i think absurd you know snc lavalon was

00:13:16.040 continuous efforts by the prime minister's office and pressure on the justice minister um and to which they

00:13:23.960 admitted in this case the justice minister tyler shandro said no like as soon as he said that this

00:13:28.760 is not appropriate that that was the end of it where um it's very different i think it's apples and

00:13:33.000 oranges and i don't think it's fair to to compare these two um you know i do think to some degree this

00:13:38.200 is very inside baseball um the ndp were probably celebrating do i think that there is a potential

00:13:44.040 impact absolutely but do i think it's significant um no i don't think it's going to shift supporters

00:13:49.880 um that are already away there might be you know a few undecideds but when people to chris's point go

00:13:56.120 to the ballot uh box on on you know go to cast their ballot on may 29th it is going to be at the

00:14:01.480 end of the day comparison of records of ndp versus um ucp and on those affordability the economy public

00:14:08.920 safety questions and you know if you're if you're comparing that between notley and smith um i don't

00:14:14.840 think it's going to to be the tsn turning point as i've been calling it or what the ndp is trying to

00:14:19.560 make of it yeah i think you're exactly right i think this election really is a ballot box question

00:14:24.840 about which leader do voters trust more do they trust danielle smith despite the ndp's efforts to

00:14:30.200 try to paint her as someone who's crazy and someone who's untrustworthy or are they willing to give the

00:14:34.440 alberta ndp a second chance even though most people who lived in alberta during that period really were

00:14:39.240 not fond of that government evan i want to go to you next so we know that danielle smith is really

00:14:43.640 trying to highlight the positive parts of this report which is that which was that the ethics commissioner

00:14:47.960 didn't find evidence of those emails that was arguably the bigger concern here that she was

00:14:52.520 directly interfering with crown prosecutors we found no evidence of that do you think she's been

00:14:56.760 successful in changing the channel and highlighting the positive parts of the report or do you think

00:15:01.080 that legacy media's efforts to really just ignore that altogether has kind of overshadowed the premier's

00:15:05.800 efforts yeah i think uh i mean campaigns are weird one of the advantages was that this happened on

00:15:13.880 debate day as well and so some of the story kind of got weaved into debate coverage which i think was

00:15:20.840 fairly favorable for what the ucp's aims were in yesterday's coverage i i think she's been

00:15:27.400 consistent like if folks heard or saw her clips she got her message out um she recognizes that there

00:15:35.240 are better ways to talk with the justice minister the and she looks forward to work working with the

00:15:40.600 ethics commissioner on on how that should look but uh you know i i think erica's right the the huge uh

00:15:46.200 concern and the one that caused a lot of attention uh in the fall and spring legislative sessions was

00:15:52.680 this accusation around being in contact with crown prosecutors and there's still absolutely no tangible

00:15:59.000 evidence that this was the case and uh i think uh premier smith and the ucp team uh should be taking

00:16:06.520 some time to walk people through that because that was where everyone was putting all their bluster and

00:16:11.400 energy and there's still nothing to show for it so we've touched a little bit on the debate now i think

00:16:17.320 that would be an important topic for us to go over a little bit i'm under the impression that quite a few

00:16:23.160 albertans actually tuned into thursday night's debate a global ipsos poll that i reported on earlier

00:16:28.600 this week said that about half of albertans were planning to tune in i don't know if the number was quite

00:16:33.480 that high but some ucp volunteers that i've spoken with said that they were door knocking in calgary

00:16:38.200 and every one of three houses that they went to were watching the debate during the hours that it

00:16:42.840 was playing so that's pretty significant we know that danielle smith needed to deliver during that

00:16:47.080 debate erica i'm gonna go to you first what's your take on the debate did danielle smith get her

00:16:51.800 message across and was there a clear victor yeah i mean i think rachel notley is a strong debater and

00:16:57.720 she she did hold her own to to some degree but i do think danielle smith took it i was in the war

00:17:03.160 room and we were all smiling uh at the end of of this debate you know there is a huge population of

00:17:08.840 undecided a little bit higher one-fifth of the population so i do think that this debate was

00:17:13.640 important um for those undecideds and it did really secure the base i mean i think danielle smith

00:17:19.400 nailed a lot of it some of her points on health care and education uh you know items that typically

00:17:25.000 the ndp should kind of dominate um pushback um you know rachel notley was was on the on

00:17:31.880 her heels for a lot of the debates so i do think that danielle smith drove her message she showed

00:17:36.680 too in contrast to the rachel notley attack style we saw um she showed premiership she showed states

00:17:43.880 woman um she came off very confident and confident and i think that that's a big thing that people want

00:17:49.560 to see in who they're going to vote for for the next premier and she she called the the ndp out on

00:17:55.080 their disastrous record um which is a good reminder for for albertans too as they head to the polls

00:18:01.480 yeah of course danielle smith and rachel notley both have so much experience public speaking but

00:18:05.480 i felt that rachel notley was a bit caught off guard she seemed a little bit rattled when she started

00:18:09.880 she had to kind of check her notes repeatedly in her introduction remarks she did seem to kind of

00:18:14.680 catch up a little bit later but she was on the back foot and i felt like she was responding to a

00:18:18.280 lot of what the premier was laying down she did have one attack she tried to bring up danielle

00:18:22.840 smith's floor crossing days we're going to play that for you now uh yes well i mean i think the

00:18:27.560 fundamental problem here is that albertans are deeply concerned at the notion of a danielle smith

00:18:32.440 led government reforming health care in any way shape or form she claims she's guaranteed that nobody

00:18:38.520 will ever pay for a doctor but you know miss smith uh i was with you in the legislature in 2014

00:18:44.360 you stood up and you guaranteed you would never cross the floor three weeks later you crossed the

00:18:49.480 floor your understanding of the word guarantee is very different than that of most albertans

00:18:55.560 and most people are deeply deeply troubled at the prospect of you reforming health care based on your

00:19:02.200 15 year record of advocating to make people pay out of pocket chris this was just so funny to me

00:19:08.440 because i doubt that people who would vote for the ndp really care about daniel smith's floor

00:19:12.760 crossing days in fact most of the people who are really upset about the floor crossing were people

00:19:17.400 that were able to forgive danielle smith after years of listening to her on the radio and then

00:19:21.480 turned out to vote for her in the ucp leadership race so i'm not sure that conversation is super

00:19:26.040 pertinent to a general election right now but what's your take on it it's the family and friends

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00:19:46.600 that's a great question so i do still hear it mentioned uh but it's in the same context that

00:19:51.240 you just raised it's like oh well you know have we forgiven her or not and those typically how do i

00:19:56.440 put this they're typically not your ndp voter who are talking about that it's usually those who would

00:20:01.720 be assumed to be a right of center or uh ucp style voter and so i found it interesting that

00:20:08.520 ms notley tried to bring that up what i found super weird just as somebody who's observed politics my

00:20:14.200 entire life and moved here from british columbia is that pre notley was a former premier and it was

00:20:21.000 strange not to hear that well when i was in the job i did this this this and this if you're applying for

00:20:26.840 a job again you'd usually be like hey boss these are the things that i achieved while on the job

00:20:32.200 and i did so well you should hire me again it was very interesting to not hear that kind of language

00:20:38.840 coming from ms notley and again i was really happy from a taxpayer's perspective to hear the issues of

00:20:45.400 balanced budgets fuel taxes carbon taxes all of those big meat and potato affordability issues

00:20:52.440 talked about at length there wasn't a lot of wasn't a lot of interruption wasn't a lot of

00:20:57.240 crosstalk they didn't waste a lot of time i actually wished it was about half an hour longer

00:21:02.760 yeah i think you raise a really good point i think it could have been a little bit longer especially

00:21:05.960 because there was so many commercial breaks and you raise a point that we had a we had a live show

00:21:10.520 over at true north discussing the debate we discussed extensively rachel notley doesn't seem

00:21:14.360 interested in running on her record as premier she seems to be sort of appealing to the moderates

00:21:18.840 right now and you're right she didn't bring up her record as premier because i think it

00:21:21.880 was a very unpopular time for the ndp in the party's history now one of the other things we

00:21:27.160 discussed in our pre-show was who was going to go for the jugular first and i said it would be

00:21:31.480 pretty hard for rachel notley not to go for the jugular because their whole campaign has been

00:21:35.720 really negative campaigning strategies so how can you all of a sudden switch when your talking points

00:21:40.280 are basically based on a lot of lies or at least regurgitating things that daniel smith discussed

00:21:45.320 in her podcast at some point but not policy she's actually put forward in her position as an elected

00:21:50.520 official that being said daniel smith did have one little zinger when rachel notley accused her

00:21:55.400 of breathing ethics law the premier responded well at least one of my ndp one of my mlas didn't hack

00:22:01.960 the vaccine portal system we're going to play that one for you now the other thing i would say i've

00:22:06.040 been in office since 2008 i have never actually breached the conflict of interest legislation

00:22:11.960 miss smith cannot say the same well i guess i guess you're you did have an mla who hacked our

00:22:16.200 health care system i can i can tell you do you really want to talk about our candidates and our

00:22:21.400 mlas seriously i do not think you're going to win that one that is not one you want to do i have to

00:22:26.360 tell you when i'm putting together our affordability payments to have to ask whether it was going to be

00:22:31.000 hack proof from the ndp that's not something that ms notley should be very proud of what i all will also

00:22:36.200 say is that when she came out with her costing document it was almost immediately discredited because

00:22:41.560 todd hirsch said he hadn't done the analysis on what kind of impact it would have on chasing away

00:22:47.480 investment others did trevor toome did jack mince did there are several business reporters who did

00:22:53.240 the alberta chamber of commerce did and what they have said is that would create instability and the

00:22:58.440 instability would chase additional uh investment out it would chase jobs out and we would go back

00:23:03.400 and have a rerun of what we did in the period of time that ms notley doesn't want to talk about which

00:23:07.400 was when she was premier evan what did you make of this little exchange this to me was one of the

00:23:11.000 funniest moments of the debates and i think it really appealed to danielle's supporters yeah a

00:23:17.080 hundred percent listen um one of the things that doesn't get the amount of media coverage uh that

00:23:23.160 it deserves is the ndp bench is incredibly weak and they have no shortage of controversies or issues i

00:23:30.120 know the media like to focus on on the ucp ucp side um but yeah uh thomas dang uh with is trying to

00:23:39.240 get involved uh hack whatever you call the ethical hacking of the health system with the former

00:23:45.560 premier's uh data they've got countless examples of when she was in charge of errors with her caucus

00:23:53.000 i mean for goodness sakes they have four candidates right now who seem to be promoting or avowed

00:23:58.520 communists uh an ideology that killed hundreds of millions in the last uh century so they have some

00:24:05.720 issues on their bench and i think daniel smith and ucp are definitely wise to highlight it

00:24:12.760 okay well i think that's a great place to leave it for today thank you so much for joining me this

00:24:16.360 week and we'll see you guys all next week okay everyone and before we head out i'm just going to

00:24:21.240 do a quick comment roundup from last week's episode in which we discuss danielle smith missing out on some

00:24:26.840 of the campaign to fight fires and rachel notley's negative campaigning cheryl roy says daniel smith

00:24:33.400 is too much a lady to use the slandering insults that notley throws at danielle smith what do you

00:24:39.240 guys think about that why do you think daniel smith hasn't returned the alberta ndps negative

00:24:43.480 campaigning barking lizard said please keep up your good work and expand your reach life is better when

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00:25:04.680 once bill c11 crtc regulations come into place we won't be too hindered by that and finally user

00:25:11.400 derek boychuck said maybe send a request over to the ndp group asking for a list of questions

00:25:16.280 considered acceptable to be asked or a list of answers that no questions have been asked yet yes i think

00:25:22.440 that you are exactly right i think that's what they want me to do they want me to get my questions

00:25:26.040 approved in advance it's probably why they only really want mainstream media reporters asking

00:25:30.200 them questions because they all kind of ask the same thing and their questions are usually pretty

00:25:34.520 irrelevant to the ongoing election campaign usually it just has something to do with the latest hit

00:25:39.560 piece on danielle smith or some other candidate from comments they made a bajillion years ago okay guys

00:25:45.960 that's all we have time for today thank you so much for tuning in to this week's episode of the

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The Alberta Roundup with Isaac Lamoureux - May 20, 2023

Danielle Smith’s Debate Knockout

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