The Alex Jones Show Live - September 02, 2026


💥BOMBSHELL: The Official J6 Pipe Bomber Cover-Up Has Imploded!


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00:00:00.000 I want to share with the public that the Congressional Investigative Committee and the FBI have been withholding from the country blockbuster information about the January 6th pipe bomber as it relates to a particular telephone number that pinged within three meters of both drop locations at the Republican National Committee headquarters, at the Democratic National Committee headquarters,
00:00:24.880 and that the FBI said themselves that because of this phone number,
00:00:30.360 they now knew that this was a law enforcement individual that placed the devices.
00:00:36.100 The official pipe bomber narrative has already been discredited.
00:00:39.260 We know the guy they've got.
00:00:40.300 All the evidence shows is a Patsy.
00:00:42.140 All the geolocation, the phones show that what they say about him is not true.
00:00:46.260 Clearly, there is a major cover-up going on here,
00:00:49.740 and now we have new data on these phone pings,
00:00:53.420 and this is bombshell information and then why it's important is we don't want an innocent
00:00:59.320 black autistic man going to prison but even bigger than that is the whole jan 6 narrative
00:01:05.600 where the fbi director lied about feds being there which we now know was happening and this
00:01:09.740 being a setup comes crashing down and it was bongino and it was cash tell promising and looking
00:01:16.560 all the holes in the story that they would come in and expose the real pipe bomber and instead
00:01:20.720 they flipped and we know what happened there that's why this is big because it brings down
00:01:24.800 the whole deep state if this comes out and why do you in a fledgling investigation have the congress
00:01:30.940 the senate with all these key people like a Bilderberg meeting with a key media person
00:01:35.480 meeting when this information starts coming out that's not how this stuff normally works right
00:01:39.860 call serving oh no there's no way this would normally be the case and you know you might
00:01:43.740 send somebody over to brief congress but i have no idea why john solomon's sitting there and
00:01:47.200 that's bizarre. I don't know why you'd bring in former members of Capitol Police to actually be
00:01:51.000 there in the first place. I'm not sure what that is unless they were going to add something to the
00:01:53.840 brief. And apparently they were just in the receiving mode. So that's kind of strange, too.
00:01:57.220 But you've got Marshall Yates, who was, again, on Massey staff, used to work for a member of
00:02:01.480 Congress who was on the committee, ends up at the FBI as the senior congressional liaison. Very
00:02:05.900 weird kind of movement there. Interestingly enough, Marshall Yates is apparently someone
00:02:09.580 who on the night of January 5th walked past the actual hooded figure in the pipe bomb case and
00:02:15.940 believed it to be a white male. Now, if anybody's ever seen the police officer that Steve Baker
00:02:20.740 identified, there's pictures over at the New York Times and so on. She's made herself a public figure
00:02:24.720 in this space. It does seem like she looks like a dude. She has my haircut, essentially. She just
00:02:30.060 doesn't have the beard. So very kind of interesting stuff there. The system only knows a couple of
00:02:34.360 responses. And if you're not with us, you're against us as one of them. And we're better than
00:02:38.540 the alternative. So fear mongering. And then the last one is you're obviously a terrorist. So you
00:02:42.760 know you need to be rounded up the same tools that were used against the political left earlier on in
00:02:48.040 the in the republic this is something that was gone they went after communists they went after
00:02:51.520 socialists they went after um civil rights movement people you know the fbi was used that way then it
00:02:56.640 was used against people in the patriot movements and the militia and so on in the 90s and then it
00:03:00.400 went back and they went after muslims and people that the left loved and then they went after you
00:03:04.100 know catholics they just exposed this they just dropped the paper on my um one of my big whistle
00:03:08.900 blower exposures which was that they were going after catholics who like latin mass and the idea
00:03:13.440 is is that whatever whenever you say something that's not advantageous to the machine the machine
00:03:17.480 only knows a couple of responses and one of them is violence or threatening that you're a terrorist
00:03:21.420 and we got to get you because it's for everyone's safety so they're using the same tools the left
00:03:25.560 uses them the right uses them this is why i say you can't vote your way out of it because no matter
00:03:29.220 who you put in there you still get people from government doing government things and what
00:03:32.660 government says is you're against us you're a threat to our status quo mike benz calls it the
00:03:37.520 blob like it doesn't make a difference it's a but don't they get we're at the end of a cycle
00:03:41.460 self-propagating animal don't they get their status quo is the threat uh not to them real
00:03:49.120 time uncensored unstoppable alexjoneslive.com take a stand share the link
00:03:58.060 Do you want to fight?
00:04:00.840 You better believe you got one
00:04:03.040 We'll get Kyle Serafin
00:04:07.600 as an Air Force veteran
00:04:08.460 not just former EMT
00:04:10.680 and FBI counterterrorism officer
00:04:12.720 agent
00:04:13.560 is taking on geopolitical
00:04:15.280 we only got 30 minutes
00:04:15.960 hoping he can come on
00:04:17.220 the next few days
00:04:17.640 for a full hour
00:04:18.300 we've got a big special guest
00:04:19.480 in a debate
00:04:20.020 with an individual
00:04:22.940 who's pro-war
00:04:24.540 pro-Israel control
00:04:26.680 everything
00:04:27.680 So look for that.
00:04:29.200 But Kyle Serafin has been all over this.
00:04:31.440 He worked the pipe bombing case during it in D.C.
00:04:35.600 And, you know, obviously we know that the man that they've said who did it, all the evidence is he's a complete patsy.
00:04:40.860 So maybe Kyle should recap what we know.
00:04:44.500 But now Steve Baker, one of the best investigators on this, has brought out really smoking gun evidence dealing with the phones, the phone numbers,
00:04:51.720 that the system knows that, indeed, they do have a Patsy,
00:04:55.960 which falls directly on the FBI director and others who were involved in that.
00:05:01.000 We also now have the FBI director saying they're going to hire people
00:05:05.680 that have burglary convictions and have been prostitutes.
00:05:12.080 So they're clearing the way for that.
00:05:14.640 And, again, I'm not attacking people that have changed their lives
00:05:17.380 or people who have been prostitutes.
00:05:18.820 But just in general, that's not a job requirement.
00:05:21.160 Usually it's when you're trying to hire spies or people that are already corrupted that you would do something like we'll get Kyle Serafin's take on that as first.
00:05:27.820 But I'm not going to play the whole interview.
00:05:29.980 It's on Kyle Serafin's site.
00:05:31.900 Type in Kyle Serafin's name on X.
00:05:33.480 You'll go to his X page and be able to see that for yourself at KyleSerafin.com, at Kyle Serafin on True Social Twitter and YouTube,
00:05:43.820 the Kyle Serafin show.podbean.com and rumble.com forward slash Kyle Serafin.
00:05:49.480 Big fan of his show.
00:05:50.460 great information. One of the most accurate people out there. But here's a few minutes
00:05:53.200 of the Steve Baker interview yesterday. We knew then it was a law enforcement person.
00:06:01.440 We, as in the FBI, knew then it was a law enforcement person. We need to talk face to
00:06:07.400 face. I have info that can fill in the gaps, but it points to Capitol Police involvement.
00:06:15.300 Who told you not to report that story?
00:06:19.480 I want to share with the public that the Congressional Investigative Committee and the FBI have been withholding from the country blockbuster information about the January 6th pipe bomber as it relates to a particular telephone number that pinged within three meters of both drop locations at the Republican National Committee headquarters, at the Democratic National Committee headquarters.
00:06:45.200 and that the FBI said themselves that because of this phone number, they now knew that this was a
00:06:53.480 law enforcement individual that placed the devices. The committee has been informed of it since October
00:06:58.920 16th because that's the date of when this briefing took place. I have no idea how long the FBI knew
00:07:04.600 about this. Where was this meeting that you're talking about? This meeting was in Congressman
00:07:08.740 Loudermilk's office at the Rayburn Building in Washington, D.C. There was Congressman Loudermilk,
00:07:14.300 who was the chairman of the investigative committee.
00:07:17.100 And then there was his chief of staff, Rob Atkerson.
00:07:20.760 Okay.
00:07:21.600 There was former Capitol Police Chief, Stephen Sund.
00:07:25.580 There was the whistleblower.
00:07:28.040 This is your source that made you aware of this?
00:07:31.120 That's correct.
00:07:31.960 Okay.
00:07:32.800 Additionally, the congressional liaison to the FBI.
00:07:35.780 Okay, very good.
00:07:36.620 That's five, we're missing one.
00:07:38.160 We are missing one.
00:07:39.780 The oddball, right-wing conservative circles,
00:07:42.800 investigative journalist by the name of John Solomon, who runs Just the News.
00:07:47.840 October 16th of 2025, a meeting is called, who called the meeting?
00:07:54.300 All I know from the whistleblower, the whistleblower is also a former deputy chief level
00:07:59.080 officer from the Capitol Police, and he was there on January 6th, as was Chief Sund.
00:08:04.480 They actually both got the call from Rob Atkerson, that would be Loudermilk's chief of staff.
00:08:09.300 OK, they were called there by Ackerson. Ackerson's the chief of staff. Obviously, Congressman Loudermilk was there as well. So there's your for the person giving the briefing.
00:08:18.400 That makes perfect sense that that would be the FBI congressional liaison at the time. So he's the one giving it. And John Solomon, how does he fit into that?
00:08:27.880 They don't know. They don't know why he was there. He was certainly the odd bird out. The question that I have.
00:08:33.280 Let's stop there. You know, watch the full interview. We got limited time today. We'll get a call back in the next few days.
00:08:38.240 He's going to find out when he can come on.
00:08:39.460 Somebody says he will.
00:08:41.020 So, Kyle, there's so much I can talk to you about this,
00:08:42.560 but give us the synopses for people that haven't followed this as closely as you
00:08:46.260 have, even working the case at the time, on obviously the guy they've got isn't
00:08:51.160 the guy, and just more evidence continues to compound off the cell phones.
00:08:55.880 And now the fact that it is pinging to this certain number that they don't want
00:09:00.480 to look at it, it turns out you were surveilling the house next door to these
00:09:04.820 very people, which you haven't figured out why.
00:09:07.160 But it's just fate that you would be there
00:09:10.780 Kyle Saravan, former counterterrorism agent of the FBI
00:09:14.140 Thanks for being here
00:09:14.880 Yeah, you bet, Alex
00:09:16.640 Okay, so quick and dirty
00:09:17.580 January 6th, there was the riot that took place
00:09:21.380 There was the gathering, etc.
00:09:22.640 The night before that, January 5th
00:09:24.200 Someone happened to place pipe bombs
00:09:25.800 They wore a hood
00:09:26.480 And they wandered around in Washington, D.C.
00:09:28.240 Between the hours of 7 and 8.30
00:09:29.800 And they dropped these two devices
00:09:31.340 One near the RNC, one near the DNC
00:09:33.220 So that's the sketch of the story
00:09:34.920 The person who dropped the bombs was referred to by the FBI at that time as person of interest number one.
00:09:40.540 That's the hooded pipe bomber.
00:09:41.760 There was another person, person of interest number two, and that person was someone that has been identified since.
00:09:47.620 But at the time, it was an unknown.
00:09:49.300 This person took weird and suspicious photos of the dumpster right next to where the actual pipe bomb was found.
00:09:53.920 A couple of other structures and all that was very unusual.
00:09:56.380 And so we were, me and my surveillance team the week after, were interested in trying to figure out who the heck that person was and what was going on and how were they connected to another person, Person of Interest 3.
00:10:06.860 Person of Interest 3 was a former member of the Air Force, a federal contractor, someone who I believe worked at the Department of Defense at the time, although it slips up my mind right now.
00:10:16.740 Anyway, long and short, we were outside the address of Person of Interest 3, who had lent his car, had lent his Metro Pass and some other things to Person of Interest 2, who'd come in from out of town.
00:10:29.060 And it just turned out that those two people, POI 2 and POI 3, lived directly next door to a woman who was a Capitol Police officer, later identified by Steve Baker and his team while he was working at the Blaze, as a forensic match for the pipe bomber who was Person of Interest 1, as you're showing on the screen right now.
00:10:44.980 And they claim that's a black guy.
00:10:47.100 Anybody can look at the footage.
00:10:48.060 It looks like a woman's walk, woman's shoulders, a woman's ass.
00:10:51.280 And she also works for the CIA.
00:10:52.940 But she's completely innocent.
00:10:54.360 She works for the CIA now.
00:10:55.640 So long and short of it is on January 6th, this female was living in Falls Church, Virginia,
00:11:01.640 directly next door to POI 2.
00:11:04.160 Sorry, POI 3, who had POI 2 staying with them.
00:11:07.000 That's all kind of convoluted.
00:11:08.280 A week later, my team is put on surveillance outside the house of POI 3.
00:11:11.620 And logically, after two days, we were taken off before the FBI cleared them of any kind of wrongdoing or any kind of involvement in the pipe bomb case that threw up a red flag to me right away.
00:11:19.740 While I was an FBI agent, I brought it up to my family members, you know, commensurate to that time.
00:11:23.980 I've referred to that and I've reached out to people that were on my team that are still currently working for the FBI.
00:11:29.900 And they also thought it was strange at the time and they've always thought it was weird.
00:11:33.260 It turns out that this is an ongoing topic of discussion.
00:11:37.000 um we might move forward for years where the fbi puts out a reward they're looking for the pipe
00:11:42.640 bomber they've offered fifty thousand dollars it started at 25 it ended up at five hundred thousand
00:11:46.800 dollars and nobody knows what was going on and why nobody was able to solve the case cash patel
00:11:51.960 gets in there in january sorry i think he gets in in february dan bongino first week of march
00:11:56.740 of 2025 and literally there was almost nothing done during that time they you know no suspects
00:12:02.280 announced they've done all this research they've got all these thousands of you know copies of
00:12:05.900 a video chris ray said there were 30 or 35 000 different videos they were pouring through they
00:12:11.040 pulled credit card receipts they looked into 6 000 different interviews blah blah blah blah
00:12:14.300 the end of the day we get a report in january of 2025 from barry loudermilk and his committee
00:12:19.200 and it said basically the only thing that should have mattered there were 186 phone numbers that
00:12:25.040 pinged in the vicinity of the pipe bomb being dropped at that time so if the pipe bomber had
00:12:30.000 a phone and we know the pipe bomber had a phone because it's on video the pipe bomber is referring
00:12:34.000 to a phone on the actual video footage that the FBI released in the few minutes they did,
00:12:39.880 186 phones were in the area. 51 of them belonged to members of law enforcement or were excluded.
00:12:45.240 How they determined they were law enforcement, we'll get into it in just a second, but essentially
00:12:48.420 they didn't look into those and they went after the other ones and they had some high priority
00:12:51.580 and some low priority and some interviews to do. At the end of the day, they arrested Brian Cole
00:12:55.880 Jr. That was in December of 2025. So that was a year after the Loudermilk report comes out.
00:13:00.160 And when they arrested Brian Cole Jr., the entire thing they said that they hinged their arrest on was cell phone pings and credit card receipts.
00:13:07.800 This should have taken about a week, maybe two weeks, and it would have made sense that we were in the right vicinity at the time.
00:13:12.740 So what the hell happened for four plus years, almost five years, for them to have that space, we don't know.
00:13:18.160 But what we do know is that Steve Baker has just reported on a meeting that took place on October the 16th of 2025.
00:13:24.140 It was held by Marshall Yates, who is the assistant director of congressional affairs, the congressional liaison.
00:13:31.280 He's a former Thomas Massey staffer.
00:13:33.380 He worked on the pipe bomb case for the committee, and he briefed apparently five people.
00:13:40.120 And some of them make sense and some of them don't.
00:13:42.220 He brought in two members, Barry Loudomilk and Barry Loudomilk's chief of staff.
00:13:46.740 So they were the ones that were actually running the committee.
00:13:48.580 And we've got a video clip that's very interesting, I think, that people will hear in a second.
00:13:51.680 They were two members of the U.S. Capitol Police
00:13:55.240 A whistleblower who's well known to the committee
00:13:56.980 And then also former Chief Sund
00:13:58.900 Who was the top guy at Capitol Police at the time
00:14:01.020 On January the 6th
00:14:02.680 And then randomly John Solomon
00:14:04.240 Who has now become a special governmental employee
00:14:06.700 Under the Trump administration
00:14:07.680 He was friendly with Kash Patel
00:14:09.340 He's one of the two people that was given access
00:14:11.220 To Donald Trump's congressional archives
00:14:13.000 He's a very special gatekeeper
00:14:15.740 But before we go there
00:14:16.880 Let me just make this announcement
00:14:17.760 I should have done it before you came on
00:14:20.640 The official pipe bomber narrative has already been discredited.
00:14:24.200 We know the guy they've got.
00:14:25.240 All the evidence shows is a patsy.
00:14:27.080 All the geolocation, the phones show that what they say about him is not true.
00:14:31.220 Clearly, there is a major cover-up going on here,
00:14:34.520 and now we have new data on these phone pings,
00:14:38.720 and this is bombshell information.
00:14:42.040 And then why it's important is we don't want an innocent black autistic man
00:14:45.880 going to prison.
00:14:46.500 But even bigger than that is the whole Jan 6 narrative where the FBI director lied about feds being there, which we now know was happening, and this being a setup, comes crashing down.
00:14:57.840 And it was Bongino and it was Cash Patel promising and looking at all the holes in the story that they would come in and expose the real pipe bomber.
00:15:05.140 And instead they flipped and we know what happened there.
00:15:07.660 That's why this is big, because it brings down the whole deep state if this comes out.
00:15:11.960 And why do you, in a fledgling investigation, have the Congress, the Senate, with all these key people, like a Bilderberg meeting, with a key media person meeting when this information starts coming out?
00:15:23.260 That's not how this stuff normally works. Right, Carl Serafin?
00:15:25.980 Oh, no, there's no way this would normally be the case.
00:15:28.100 And, you know, you might send somebody over to brief Congress, but I have no idea why John Solomon's sitting there.
00:15:32.080 And that's bizarre. I don't know why you'd bring in former members of Capitol Police to actually be there in the first place.
00:15:36.620 I'm not sure what that is unless they were going to add something to the brief.
00:15:38.980 And apparently they were just in the receiving mode. So that's kind of strange, too.
00:15:41.960 But you've got Marshall Yates, who was, again, on Massey's staff, used to work for a member of Congress who was on the committee, ends up at the FBI as the senior congressional liaison.
00:15:50.700 Very weird kind of movement there.
00:15:52.080 Interestingly enough, Marshall Yates is apparently someone who on the night of January 5th walked past the actual hooded figure in the pipe bomb case and believed it to be a white male.
00:16:02.900 Now, if anybody's ever seen the police officer that Steve Baker identified, there's pictures over at The New York Times and so on.
00:16:08.480 She's made herself a public figure in this space.
00:16:10.240 it does seem like she looks like a dude she has my haircut essentially she just doesn't have the
00:16:15.400 beard so very kind of interesting stuff there but the timeline goes as follows silence for years
00:16:20.680 upping of the of the reward for a long time and then you get this meeting on october the 16th
00:16:27.940 about a week later the fbi boosts their their reward offer and they tell people again hey it's
00:16:34.740 five hundred thousand dollars and here's some minimal kind of crappy footage meanwhile you've
00:16:38.980 got daniel bongino previously saying that it looks like it's a fed's erection it looks like
00:16:42.760 there were people that were deliberately kind of altering the frame rate they were trying to edit
00:16:45.860 the actual pixels inside the pictures of the pipe bomber so who's covering what up and we all
00:16:51.100 believed at the time and i still believe and i think steve baker does as well and i'm sure your
00:16:55.420 audience is going to be fairly well aware it looks like members of the capitol police possibly people
00:17:00.020 from the atf probably someone from the cia or members of the cia and then also a couple of
00:17:05.060 members of Congress were involved in doing something very specific. They set up a potential
00:17:08.820 diversionary tactic on January the 6th, potentially under the guise of it being a training exercise.
00:17:14.740 And DOJ and FBI came in as the mop up crew, probably originally investigating in good faith.
00:17:19.320 And when they got too close to it, then they were pulled back. And now you've got this weird story.
00:17:22.760 So October 16th, they do this meeting. They reveal that a law enforcement specific cell
00:17:28.900 phone that was on what's called FirstNet. And FirstNet is a creation post 9-11 to be able to
00:17:34.160 make sure that first responders, whether they be in the EMS world, whether they be federal state or
00:17:38.400 local law enforcement and a few others are able to get cell phone traffic out. Even when the cell
00:17:44.340 phone towers are completely overwhelmed by civilian traffic, it's a non-commercial available thing.
00:17:48.480 You have to be law enforcement. You have to be verified through your agency. I used to have a
00:17:52.720 personal phone on a first net and I had a work phone for the FBI that was on first net. It's
00:17:57.640 my belief that Capitol police use them as well, but that is unique to a very specific group of
00:18:02.120 people that can use it. And interestingly enough, FirstNet also has this special sort of parameter
00:18:07.300 added. They have a 94% or higher instantaneous location capability so that they can actually
00:18:14.900 pinpoint people, not just on the ground in two-dimensional space, but actually in three-
00:18:19.880 dimensional space at altitude within 10 feet of the physical location of the person. And they do
00:18:25.040 so with 94 accuracy the standard FCC requirement for GPS and accuracy pings is like 80 so it's far
00:18:33.380 more accurate it's very very rapid and the idea would be that in the events of an emergency law
00:18:37.320 enforcement may need to pinpoint their position and be tracked and so these phones actually have
00:18:41.760 but now it can be used the other way to expose if law enforcement is involved well if you have a
00:18:47.000 law enforcement phone that's pinging within 10 feet of the bomb drop locations both of them on
00:18:51.220 that night. And they're in that 186 phone numbers. That seems really critical. That's what Steve
00:18:56.100 Baker was talking about. And the fact that it was being briefed by the FBI to members of Congress
00:19:01.480 tells you people in the C-suite, the executive level, the seventh floor of the FBI knew this
00:19:05.940 in October the 16th of 2025. A couple of weeks later, Steve Baker does his article. It comes
00:19:11.940 out on November the 8th. And then from that time on, there's a panic. We're told from people that
00:19:17.740 came out of the cia that came out of the office of director of national intelligence and so on
00:19:21.420 that the cia scrambled tried to figure out what to do the intelligence community panicked and then
00:19:26.100 they ended up doing something very specific they put um surveillance on brian cole jr's house five
00:19:31.600 days after the article comes out they also did an interview with the uh now cia employee but
00:19:36.960 previously capitol police officer and she failed a polygraph per filings in court and the polygraph
00:19:42.700 that she failed or she indicated deception on
00:19:45.260 were two specific questions.
00:19:47.120 Did you place the pipe bombs on that night?
00:19:48.940 And did you place those pipe bombs?
00:19:50.340 And apparently she indicated deception,
00:19:52.420 which is a fail on the polygraph.
00:19:54.040 She was allowed to go back to work.
00:19:55.200 And then they arrested a guy who was a My Little Pony fan
00:19:57.380 who did not change his pattern of life,
00:19:59.260 who did nothing different for five straight years.
00:20:01.680 He's a intensely routine-based human being.
00:20:04.580 And the FBI apparently couldn't find this guy
00:20:07.400 living in Woodbridge, Virginia,
00:20:09.000 in spitting distance of the National Capital Region.
00:20:11.560 And he didn't do anything.
00:20:12.700 like anything new he didn't get rid of his phone he didn't uh use cash for his purchases he was
00:20:17.460 using the same credit cards he was building the pipe bombs with no evidence years before january
00:20:22.300 6th so so give me your working theory on what the pipe bombing was supposed to be they're desperate
00:20:27.480 to cover this up they're crazy enough to put this guy on trial when he's got high-powered lawyers
00:20:31.780 that have already shot it full of holes looks like this is blown up in their face i think it will um
00:20:37.120 so if you've seen daniel bongino was part of the administration he's left uh pam bondi was one of
00:20:41.520 the people that was celebrating this she's left the only two people that were at that uh you know
00:20:45.760 other than like fbi career employees that were at the briefing where they were celebrating the
00:20:50.060 arrest of this young man was janine piero and you also saw that um cash patel was there so those are
00:20:56.840 the two remaining folks that were the high profile you know celebrate celebrators of the arrest of
00:21:01.160 brian colt jr my over my working theory is is that uh probably members of congress it would have to
00:21:05.940 be either like um senate majority or speaker of the house type level or people directly in that
00:21:10.140 orbit, gave orders to people that were below the chief sun level, but were working probably
00:21:15.820 the Yogananda Pittman types and directed members of the Capitol police to go out there and
00:21:20.340 plant these bombs and then also to go find these bombs when necessary.
00:21:23.420 They didn't need that plan.
00:21:25.040 This is, by the way, exactly what Daniel Bongino used to say when he was running his podcast
00:21:28.540 before he became a Fed.
00:21:30.120 And the claim was, is that they think that they were placed.
00:21:34.040 They were a potential diversionary tactic if they needed to be able to do it.
00:21:36.500 They obviously did draw resources away from the Capitol on January 6th.
00:21:40.140 And then the ATF came in, did some pretty illogical movements and defused the bombs, destroyed one of them.
00:21:47.200 And so there you have your ATF sort of like.
00:21:48.900 And again, you mentioned this, but don't glaze over the fact you've got all these giant areas that have the bomb.
00:21:53.860 I know you've done the breakdown.
00:21:54.700 The numbers is insane.
00:21:56.000 The police go right where they are instantly and know where the bombs are.
00:21:59.640 I mean, this is ridiculous.
00:22:00.500 Right.
00:22:00.640 So the Capitol Police counter surveillance unit officers that found the second bomb left their car.
00:22:05.900 And in under 13 minutes, I think it was actually under 12 minutes, went directly to the two places the pipe bomber had stopped in the night before.
00:22:11.880 Well, there's the video.
00:22:12.440 They walk right up to where it's at.
00:22:15.060 That's correct.
00:22:15.720 First one was a bush that was in front of the Congressional Black Caucus.
00:22:18.220 They actually do a look for it, and they don't see it there.
00:22:20.520 And then they go directly to where the bomb actually was placed.
00:22:22.740 And that was placed next to a bench where we've all seen the footage of it.
00:22:26.160 So let's go back and do 35,000 foot view because for listeners, I know you get it, listeners, but this will bring down the whole narrative.
00:22:32.780 Do you think Trump doesn't know about this, or has he decided to use his blackmail against the deep stakes?
00:22:37.660 I don't think he was in on Jan 6.
00:22:38.960 I was there.
00:22:39.820 I don't think he was in on it either.
00:22:41.140 So then why has he ordered an ending of the crooks investigation?
00:22:44.580 That's Pennsylvania for people to forget.
00:22:46.520 We know he ordered the cover-up of foreign involvement.
00:22:50.620 That's confirmed, or domestic involvement.
00:22:53.260 And on every other thing, why is he, because not the people that are involved, he is the one shutting it all down.
00:22:59.520 So I don't know about this.
00:23:00.760 I haven't gotten intel on does he even know about this, but I'm sure he certainly has to.
00:23:05.700 And this vindicates Trump. Why the hell the change and what do you think the pipe bomber was really meant to do?
00:23:14.260 I don't know what the Trump situation is, other than I do know that Trump has never publicly congratulated Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi, Janine Pirro or Kash Patel for their great work in getting the pipe bomber off the streets.
00:23:27.300 he's never done that so people can take and assume that means whatever they think i i actually don't
00:23:32.860 know and i don't know what the angle would be if he was in on uh shutting it down and i don't know
00:23:36.960 what the angle would be the most likely answer is that he doesn't know but again i i don't know how
00:23:42.860 that would work out or how you wouldn't be aware of this so all that said now the the the angle
00:23:47.520 has been speculated on that it was a just a mechanism by which you could actually say trump
00:23:51.600 supporters are violent extremists he's too dangerous to ever be in politics again and like
00:23:56.900 everything else from the january you know probably december onward after the election
00:24:01.300 into the raid at mar-a-lago and all the other kind of things there was a concerted effort by
00:24:05.620 our media to point out that donald trump was too dangerous for american politics his supporters are
00:24:09.680 not just what's been in the news college talk about this off air sometime they were trying in
00:24:15.160 florida and texas i know people directly we're talking about like trump moms and stuff to try
00:24:19.400 to get them to take 50 cows to dc and then they were trying to get members of oath keepers that
00:24:25.060 the top didn't know to like arrest pelosi and take so they they plan this to be far worse the
00:24:30.740 question would be why did they then pull back on the pipe bomb scenario when they had it pre-programmed
00:24:37.620 um i think they didn't need it uh that's kind of the the assumption that we've been working on
00:24:42.060 looking at it that things got out of hand just enough for the optics to be what they were
00:24:45.220 uh you know that there was pretty solid evidence that they were instigators from the uh the riot
00:24:50.420 and slash the protest part of the mob but then the capital police responded with aggressive force and
00:24:54.920 that looked pretty crazy too. The question was, was they going to be able to call it a training
00:24:58.840 exercise and try to, you know, basically play it off if they needed to, or could they say this was
00:25:03.200 Trump's who, you know, Trump people who were dropping pipe bombs. And so they're domestic
00:25:06.040 terrorists. There was a lot of different kinds of angles. We don't have all the answers. What we do
00:25:10.040 know is that the story that they've lined up against Brian Cole jr. Doesn't line up at all.
00:25:13.640 It doesn't line up because even their internal filings are completely illogical. Apparently the
00:25:17.640 guy was an autistic guy, but he was mad about an election that didn't happen yet. And that's why
00:25:22.340 He started building bombs years before the election that hadn't happened yet, and then when he decided to drop him, he was motivated by the troubles in Ireland, and he decided to drop him because he hated both parties.
00:25:30.900 And like you said, they've got to be worried.
00:25:32.040 I looked up the law firm he's got, and now that's linked up with other cases.
00:25:36.280 I mean, they're going to tear the living hell out of the prosecution.
00:25:39.360 Not only that, but over Friday last week, they dropped a filing from the government side, and they said, listen, you know, the government's case is solid,
00:25:48.060 But also the defense is trying to lean on the fact that the same defendant, you know, defendant Brian Cole Jr.'s attorneys are also representing Steve Baker and the blaze and Joe Hanneman in a lawsuit for defamation.
00:26:00.380 And so they're trying to use the Brian Cole case in the defense here to actually suss out information to defend against their other client's case, which is defamation.
00:26:08.460 And they made this crazy claim, which is really wild.
00:26:10.560 They said, you know, clearly this the CIA, whatever, the CIA police officer, she's a security officer there, didn't do anything wrong.
00:26:18.660 And she was on her way home and she was actually you can't make this up to CIA.
00:26:23.600 I mean, give me a break, folks. But but hear this part, because this is fun, Alex.
00:26:27.760 In their filing, it was 28 pages long, basically defending that Shawnee Kirkhoff didn't do anything wrong.
00:26:33.160 And she was on her way home and she's this great noble employee.
00:26:35.120 And she was heading to her home in Falls Church and she was heading to where her boyfriend lives with her in Falls Church.
00:26:39.820 and they were going to go and check out their puppy who's actually an old greyhound in Falls
00:26:44.340 Church and she was going to get a wrap or a burrito and it was in Falls Church and she makes
00:26:48.260 all they make all these claims and then you find out wait a minute it actually wasn't Falls Church
00:26:52.080 they got it wrong because when you're trying to keep your lie straight you end up screwed it up
00:26:54.780 on Monday morning they had to drop an emergency filing say hey you know we said Falls Church
00:26:58.820 three times in our filing on Friday what we meant was Alexandria it was actually a totally different
00:27:02.540 place because the burrito place is actually in Alexandria she was going to Alexandria and the
00:27:05.800 house and the dog and the pictures of the dog are actually in Alexandria so sorry about the whole
00:27:09.420 thing like we just got the wrong house you know because details don't matter when you make a 28
00:27:13.520 page filing in the courts all of this stuff looks like it's just like it's sloppy it looks so let
00:27:18.560 me ask you this we got a guest coming up i can talk to you all day what comes next in this because
00:27:23.260 they're going to go ahead with trial with this and then what is that going to do in this poor
00:27:28.080 black guy you already went into the door dash deliveries miles down the road they literally
00:27:33.320 just went and found an autistic black guy to set up totally insane uh kyle seraphins our guest we'll
00:27:39.100 We'll be right back in a few minutes.
00:27:40.100 Then I got this debate with a guy that's pro-Iran war straight ahead.
00:27:44.500 This is going to be big.
00:27:45.220 Stay with us.
00:27:48.280 All right.
00:27:48.800 Kyle Serafin is our guest.
00:27:49.980 Only five more minutes.
00:27:50.780 If you want to come back tomorrow with me or Friday, Rex is hosting.
00:27:53.460 I'll do a special Saturday show and more this weekend.
00:27:55.940 But I got a bunch of family stuff to take care of.
00:27:57.420 My dad has been sick, so I got to deal with that, which is fine.
00:28:00.120 It's a pleasure to do.
00:28:02.120 But, Kyle, just in closing, the point is every fiasco they try to run isn't working anymore.
00:28:09.560 And the same thing with the Iran war.
00:28:11.580 Oh, they have no missiles, then they do.
00:28:13.180 Oh, the straits open.
00:28:14.040 No, it's not.
00:28:15.840 All of this, and I want our country to succeed.
00:28:18.120 Even when we have a corrupt government, I want to reform it, but I also don't want it to collapse because it's so complex.
00:28:23.120 We'll be collapsed with it.
00:28:24.360 It's like I don't like a building, but I'm trapped in it.
00:28:26.580 It's going to kill me if it falls.
00:28:29.160 I am just flabbergasted at the point we've got.
00:28:31.560 Just in the last four minutes, five minutes we have, you're a smart guy.
00:28:34.280 I mean, where do you see the republic at any way out of this and just the general 35,000-foot view with the midterm 60 days away and just Trump acting completely insane, the Democrats, a bunch of communists, Islamists?
00:28:50.300 I mean, this is really sick.
00:28:53.540 It is.
00:28:54.540 I don't know.
00:28:55.980 I don't think we're voting our way out of this, Alex.
00:28:57.900 I think that if we were voting our way out of it, that's what 2024 was supposed to be.
00:29:01.640 We got the House with Republicans who were saying the right things.
00:29:05.040 We got the we got the Senate and they were saying the right things in the Republican Party.
00:29:08.480 And no, I'm going to we'll talk about this tomorrow.
00:29:10.760 I mean, come on.
00:29:11.120 But I totally agree.
00:29:12.700 When you say we're not voting our way out of it, then Laura Loomer says arrest that person.
00:29:16.240 They mean, no, we're saying we're going to collapse our way out of it.
00:29:19.420 I mean, I think that's what you're saying is this is coming to an end.
00:29:21.900 I'm going to be very specific because my former boss spent two days interviewing.
00:29:26.140 I'll call it interviewing, but it was propaganda.
00:29:27.480 he's a basically a nobody FBI agent that got to spend 20 years in and collects a federal paycheck
00:29:33.080 and he was one of the laziest human beings i ever worked with it's kind of incredible
00:29:36.820 he sits down with cash patel he has no business doing that he doesn't have any credibility
00:29:40.240 and he sits down and he came back out and then he sat down with uh gary melton and did the um
00:29:45.540 the paramount tactical podcast and he said people who say you're not voting your way out of this are
00:29:50.640 stochastic terrorists which i remember when the left was saying that and we laughed at them because
00:29:54.980 it was ridiculous it said that your words are basically encouraging violence and he said to
00:29:59.320 say words like you're not voting your way out of this is seditionist and that's what they went after
00:30:03.880 the proud boys for that's what they got the oath keepers for this so i've been called a terrorist
00:30:07.900 because of my position that we're not voting our way out of it his claim is and this is what you're
00:30:11.860 hearing this what laura loomer says as well that if you say you're not voting way out of this you're
00:30:15.720 advocating for violence and i'm doing the opposite of that i have a i have a three-year-old daughter
00:30:19.760 i've got four of their children that are under 10 years old i'm not advocating what you're saying
00:30:23.320 is the system's broken for me the system the main threat is them we're going to collapse our way out
00:30:29.180 of this well what i'm saying is is that there's not a political solution that involves voting
00:30:34.140 that actually works we've already seen what happens when you vote when you get the people
00:30:37.220 that you wanted to have it didn't work so that's not me advocating when i brought up stochastic
00:30:42.020 terrorism i saw in the news you're being blamed too i forgot that i didn't even bring that up
00:30:45.960 remembering i'm it's being said about me so what does that introduction mean like they set it all
00:30:51.240 up for muslims and whatever now it's for us basically it's the system only knows how a couple
00:30:58.240 of responses and if you're not with us you're against us as one of them and uh we're better
00:31:02.420 than the alternative so fear-mongering and then the last one is you're obviously a terrorist so
00:31:06.580 you know you need to be rounded up the same tools that were used against the political left earlier
00:31:11.420 on in the in the republic this is something that was gone they went after communists they went
00:31:15.380 after socialists they went after um civil rights movement people you know the fbi was used that way
00:31:20.120 then it was used against people in the patriot movements and the militia and so on in the 90s
00:31:24.160 and then it went back and they went after muslims and people that the left loved and then they went
00:31:27.460 after you know catholics they just exposed this they just dropped the paper on my one of my big
00:31:32.720 whistleblower exposures which was that they were going after catholics who like latin mass and the
00:31:37.200 idea is is that whatever whenever you say something it's not advantageous to the machine
00:31:40.840 the machine only knows a couple of responses and one of them is violence or threatening that you're
00:31:45.060 a terrorist and we got to get you because it's for everyone's safety so they're using the same
00:31:48.840 tools the left uses them the right uses them this is why I say you can't vote your way out of it
00:31:52.640 because no matter who you put in there you still get people from government doing government things
00:31:56.460 and what government says is you're against us you're a threat to our status quo Mike Benz calls
00:32:01.400 it the blob like it doesn't make a difference it's a multi-polar multi-axis self-propagating animal
00:32:06.180 self-propagating animal don't they get their status quo is the threat uh not to them so everybody
00:32:13.440 thinks they're the good guy in their own story that makes you and me the bad guy so I do think
00:32:16.940 that eventually this stuff is collapsing but that means you just have to go to self-reliance you got
00:32:20.560 to take care of your health you got to take care of your faith you got to take care of your family
00:32:23.340 your firearms capabilities you got to be doing fitness you know there are things you could do
00:32:26.700 within your power but changing the government because you feel like it's corrupt is not one
00:32:30.720 of them and so anyway i think it's actually empowering and it's certainly not a call for
00:32:34.040 violence yeah nobody's coming to save us we got to do it and that's right the establishment's
00:32:38.640 own worst enemy is them you're the ones bringing it all down kyle tell the producers we can come
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