The Alex Jones Show Live - October 19, 2026


🚨DOJ⧸FBI BOMBSHELL: CCTV Evidence Proves That Brian Cole Jr. Did Not Plant The Pipe Bombs!

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00:00:00.000 So he's got a tag on his clothes.
00:00:01.880 He's known to leave tags on his clothes.
00:00:03.400 That's an actual jacket that's hanging out in his closet right now.
00:00:07.240 His grandmother said she recognized buying that jacket two weeks before this video.
00:00:11.160 I want people to watch as he walks, and he kind of lumbers, and he kind of throws, like I said, he throws one foot out further than the other.
00:00:16.500 And as it gets closer, watch him stop.
00:00:19.040 He'll stop when he gets on top of the curb here, and he's going to pull his phone out.
00:00:22.860 And you'll see he kind of stops, and he does kind of this little stumble step, and he kind of holds, and he's not moving at the same pace he was.
00:00:28.940 they they pause it and they're going to tell you he's pulling out his phone so he he's one of these
00:00:33.080 guys that has to do one thing at a time he can kind of you know wander around and pull the phone
00:00:37.620 out but it really slows his normal pace now what they want to do is they want to get him to admit
00:00:41.560 that he dropped pipe bombs that he went up there to drop pipe bombs but when they're asking him
00:00:45.420 he's an autistic guy that had not previously been diagnosed and so anybody who saw him prior knew
00:00:50.660 that he was autistic um i know people that live near him and said the same thing they were like
00:00:55.320 it's pretty obvious he's on the spectrum by the way he walks and the way he carries himself and
00:00:58.420 He doesn't make eye contact and you can talk to him and he won't respond and this kind of thing.
00:01:02.580 But essentially, he voiced this stuff in the middle of this transcript and nobody had access to this transcript until the defense said, hey, we'd like to suppress this.
00:01:10.680 So here's probably the best evidence.
00:01:12.380 This is what they did is they found the person that looked like Brian Cole.
00:01:15.160 And it's a picture of a face mask and an individual who's wearing glasses, clearly a black male with a high cropped short haircut and wearing glasses, wearing this sort of like unique face mask.
00:01:25.900 and uh and it's maroon and gold ish which are the colors of the formerly redskins then the
00:01:31.540 washington football team at the time and then eventually the washington commanders and so when
00:01:35.660 you look at it you're like okay well what's going on here brian wouldn't wear a regular covid mask
00:01:39.980 he wouldn't wear the paper ones and he wouldn't wear the n95s but he would wear the ones that his
00:01:44.180 mother made him and so she still has some of the fabric hanging around basically you're going to
00:01:48.020 see total silence from the people that celebrated the arrest of brian cole in the first place and
00:01:52.860 And that's going to be a lot of different folks who will not touch this with a 10 foot
00:01:55.960 pole because they've already celebrated the grab of this guy. 0.90
00:01:59.020 You bullied the crap out of a kid for two hours who's on the autism spectrum, who's 0.97
00:02:03.720 OCD. 0.96
00:02:05.040 There's this video that's probably him on the other side of the Capitol.
00:02:08.460 You don't have an answer for that.
00:02:10.060 You couldn't find him for five years.
00:02:11.660 And let me just get the biggest picture to believe that Brian Cole Jr.
00:02:15.100 is the right guy, which I never have.
00:02:17.560 You'd have to believe that the FBI, which we spend $11 billion a year on, couldn't find
00:02:22.360 someone who committed the most dangerous crime on january 6th while carrying his own phone while
00:02:28.200 driving his own car and buying parts for a bomb with his own credit card and it took the fbi five 0.98
00:02:33.200 years to find that person that's utter bullshit there's no way that's true that could never be 0.96
00:02:36.940 true donald trump has never publicly congratulated cash patel pam bondy janine piero or daniel 0.96
00:02:42.740 bongino for their work on this case you guys can look it up you can go to the archives trump who
00:02:48.060 calls out every victory his uh his team has has had cash patel show up and do like a fake briefing
00:02:53.760 of great statistics of how the fbi is performing has never once said great job on this you guys
00:02:59.020 got the pipe bomber bongino goes in to the fbi with i think the best intentions i knew bongino
00:03:05.600 i worked with him at fox i knew him well he goes into the fba calls me will you host my show on my
00:03:10.720 first day in the federal government like his first day that he was on the air i hosted the show and
00:03:15.520 I called into him and we talked and he was great. And he had not exactly the same views that I have,
00:03:21.360 but like pretty close. He was, you know, the government's corrupt and we're going to drain
00:03:25.300 that swamp. And I think he really meant it. He seemed to mean it. I don't know why he claimed
00:03:29.520 that if he didn't mean it. And I think he did mean it. I spoke to him a week or two after he
00:03:35.420 started at the FBI. And he said to me, this is verbatim. He said, however bad you think it is
00:03:42.760 here it's 10 times worse what can we conclude from those facts well i'll tell you what i've
00:03:47.740 concluded that bungino who i don't think is an evil person has saw something in the fbi that
00:03:52.860 scared him so completely that he he became emotionally incontinent he's he's a different
00:04:00.140 person um and it destroyed his life and so what is that thing i would like and i've asked him
00:04:05.360 directly recently and he just texts back but it's like okay real time uncensored unstoppable
00:04:14.440 alexjoneslive.com take a stand share the link do you want to fight you better believe you got one
00:04:25.240 This is the biggest breaking news yet in the J6 pipe bombing fiasco that could easily bring down the entire deep state.
00:04:37.540 Clearly, the Trump administration joined in on the ongoing cover-up just weeks after this woman that had been Capitol Police that worked for the CIA was connected by data to potentially being the person planting these supposed pipe bombs.
00:04:51.820 Then suddenly they went and they found this young black man who they were then able to try with no evidence to connect to it, Brian Cole Jr.
00:05:04.280 And then, of course, we had Steve Baker and others do incredible investigative journalistic work tracking all this back.
00:05:10.640 Now, new CTV camera footage with the timestamps, all of it, clearly shows that Brian Cole Jr. was not anywhere near this happening.
00:05:21.200 at the very exact same time, time-stamped, that the supposed person that's supposedly him is planting these bombs.
00:05:31.560 So I want to just bring Carl Serafin in here to give the background on this and go into the new developments.
00:05:35.860 But this is so huge, and you have the deputy director and the FBI director always saying this was a cover-up until they got in
00:05:44.420 and then getting extremely aggressive about it once they got in
00:05:48.200 and then suddenly producing what now the evidence shows conclusively is a patsy.
00:05:52.620 He was completely exonerated, and that is Brian Cole Jr.
00:05:56.260 Then we supposedly have this confession, this transcript.
00:05:59.960 So we couldn't have a better guest on.
00:06:01.960 Famous whistleblower, been vindicated over and over again.
00:06:04.460 Also, strangely enough, in counterterrorism, was assigned after J-6 to that area,
00:06:09.600 happened to surveil a house next door to this CIA Capitol police lady.
00:06:14.600 So we couldn't have a better guest on.
00:06:15.980 Kyle Serafin is our guest.
00:06:18.520 KyleSerafin.com, at Kyle Serafin on True Social, Twitter, YouTube,
00:06:22.720 the KyleSerafinShow.Podbean.com, Rumble.com, forward slash Kyle Serafin.
00:06:27.260 So, Kyle, I usually jump in a lot, but you're the expert on this.
00:06:30.760 Walk us through, like we're five years old,
00:06:34.420 why this is so important, the history of it,
00:06:36.260 and then this huge new development.
00:06:37.820 I mean, I can't think of the alarm bells,
00:06:40.280 the the the exploding you know fireworks at the doj and the fbi right now the alarms going off
00:06:47.940 red alert right now uh because clearly they've been trying to cover this up day one they bought
00:06:55.060 into the deep state cover up the democrats were involved in so now they're guilty accomplices
00:06:59.920 this is historic i mean am i overstating how big this is no i think it's really heavy um i think
00:07:07.080 it's good that we decided to coordinate and wear the same shirts today so that looks good too
00:07:10.420 uh we're looking at something that steve and i were talking about when he was ready to put this
00:07:14.500 out we put an hour-long explanation so if anybody wants a long form of me picking uh baker's brain
00:07:19.860 i did that i released it i actually ran it on a loop for about 20 hours kind of an alex jones
00:07:24.120 style move where i just said i'm just gonna loop this sucker and it's gonna stream all day and
00:07:27.320 sometimes you guys may see it so uh that got done yesterday but let me let me kind of uh back up a
00:07:31.780 little bit the footage you're seeing comes from publicly released available to the public right
00:07:36.180 now if your listeners are interested they can literally go on rumble they can go to the house
00:07:40.620 oversight committee's release of all the you know 2 000 plus pages of j6 footage and j5 also in this
00:07:48.020 case and they can go find these cameras the cameras are actually numbered so every camera that baker
00:07:52.240 and armitas which is his um anonymous hidden sort of like autistic uh super genius that has been
00:07:58.840 going through all this footage the uh the the cameras are labeled so it's cameras 600 601 602
00:08:05.020 There's a couple of other ones in the 3000s in there.
00:08:07.040 People can go find it.
00:08:07.820 They can find this footage themselves.
00:08:09.180 What they'll find is that this is deeply, deeply zoomed in from very crappy governmental
00:08:13.720 cameras.
00:08:14.860 But what we believe it shows, and I think it's very, very compelling, and every time
00:08:18.780 I watch it, I get more of it.
00:08:20.140 What you see is the man we believe is Brian Cole Jr.
00:08:22.960 At exactly the time that the pipe bomber is supposedly wandering around over by the DNC
00:08:27.080 and the RNC on a loop to drop pipe bombs.
00:08:29.480 Now, this only came out from a very sort of fortuitous moment where the defense for Brian Cole said they would like to suppress his his confession.
00:08:40.460 And what they did is they released a transcript of four hours of FBI interrogation, two hours of which Brian Cole Jr. tells them what he was doing in D.C. on that day.
00:08:50.220 And what he says is, I went to a protest. I'd never done that before. I drove up there in my own Nissan. I wanted to go and see what was happening at the area.
00:08:58.380 I supported what was going on with the people expressing their discomfort with the election in 2020.
00:09:02.940 I thought it was wrong to say that all those people, you know, didn't matter and that they were conspiracy theorists.
00:09:07.480 So we're talking about a man who basically explained what he was doing and why he was doing it.
00:09:12.080 And so the interrogators are trying to get to the bottom of it.
00:09:15.320 Now, what they want to do is they want to get him to admit that he dropped pipe bombs and he went up there to drop pipe bombs. 0.87
00:09:19.640 But when they're asking him, he's an autistic guy that had not previously been diagnosed.
00:09:23.640 And so anybody who saw him prior knew that he was autistic.
00:09:27.680 I know people that live near him and said the same thing.
00:09:30.420 They were like, it's pretty obvious he's on the spectrum by the way he walks and the way he carries himself.
00:09:33.580 And he doesn't make eye contact.
00:09:34.920 And you can talk to him and he won't respond and this kind of thing.
00:09:37.940 But essentially, he voiced this stuff in the middle of this transcript.
00:09:42.100 And nobody had access to this transcript until the defense said, hey, we'd like to suppress this.
00:09:46.300 Now, this is just my analysis on this, Alex.
00:09:48.100 And I don't know that it to be a factual truth.
00:09:50.300 But it looks like the defense was letting the public know this is how shitty this interrogation was.
00:09:56.160 And for two hours, the man maintained his innocence. Even after being accused, he resisted the pressure. And he said, you know, I was at a I was standing alone. I wanted around. I went to a protest. I was there about an hour. I was in front of the Capitol, which has some meaning to people that understand where the Capitol is. It faces one direction and so on. 0.75
00:10:14.460 and so from that transcript armitas the uh sort of like i said a video researcher that's been
00:10:20.800 working with steve baker went through the hundreds of cameras that point in that area
00:10:25.240 for the hours that needed to be seen he said it was dark so you got hours of darkness basically
00:10:29.880 and then specifically they were looking for the time when the pipe bomber is actually wandering
00:10:34.000 around in the folger park loop uh between the dnc and the rnc and it totally substantiates him
00:10:40.480 including the coat his family bought him with the actual tag still hanging you can see skinny legs
00:10:46.840 you can see from other videos of him at traffic stops clearly it matches up this is incredible
00:10:52.160 and of course the fbi didn't think to go check the cameras to see if what he said was true
00:10:56.300 uh alex i'd say they probably did what you're seeing on the screen right now are the actual
00:11:00.880 shoes that are currently in the possession of the cole family because they came out of his closet
00:11:04.400 those are the way that he wears his shoes and it's why he actually ended up started wearing crocs 0.99
00:11:08.380 they stopped buying him nice running shoes like those uh these new balance which are runners that
00:11:12.940 have retro reflective tape on them and it's because he was crushing down the back of the heel
00:11:16.900 and when you watch the video that baker released and they pointed out really well and they do a
00:11:20.560 bunch of really good freeze frames it shows that his white socks are actually coming out of the
00:11:25.380 shoe because his foot's not all the way in the shoe in the back and when you watch it enough
00:11:29.040 times the way i was looking at i was looking at the way the foot hit and i went there's something
00:11:32.280 wrong with this you know with the way that his foot is hitting the ground it looks like the shoe
00:11:35.760 hits first and then his body hits second and what's happening is because the shoe is actually
00:11:39.500 hanging off like a sandal or like a slide uh that see people wear like the soccer players player
00:11:44.200 slides he actually lands with the toe first the shoe hits first and then his heel actually makes
00:11:48.980 impact with the ground and you can sure but the point is and i'm glad you're going through all
00:11:52.300 these factoids and where it came from is at the same time we have footage it's clearly him will
00:11:56.440 go to the jacket the family all this stuff then you've got this person that looks nothing like
00:12:01.540 him, looks like a woman waddling around over here, 1.00
00:12:04.540 planting these pipe bombs. 1.00
00:12:05.900 And then I can just see the feds or whoever pulling up metadata.
00:12:10.360 Who was around there?
00:12:11.480 Who do we frame or who do we look at as a suspect?
00:12:14.400 And then you're saying they did probably go look at this footage and know
00:12:17.660 he's miles away.
00:12:18.900 I mean, this is just absolutely outrageous.
00:12:20.880 So let's, let's start walking through it.
00:12:23.420 So here, here's the, probably the best evidence.
00:12:25.420 This is what they did is they found the person that looked like Brian Cole.
00:12:28.200 And it's a picture of a face mask and an individual who's wearing glasses, clearly a black male with a high cropped short haircut and wearing glasses, wearing this sort of like unique face mask.
00:12:39.180 And and it's maroon and gold ish, which are the colors of the formerly redskins, then the Washington football team at the time, and then eventually the Washington commanders.
00:12:48.060 And so when you look at it, you're like, OK, well, what's going on here?
00:12:51.160 Brian wouldn't wear a regular covid mask.
00:12:53.060 He wouldn't wear the paper ones and he wouldn't wear the N95s, but he would wear the ones that his mother made him.
00:12:57.900 And so she still has some of the fabric hanging around.
00:13:00.440 So this is, yeah, obviously a pixelated grainy image.
00:13:02.700 When you see it in motion, it actually makes a little more sense.
00:13:04.740 The crazy bit is that the FBI and the Capitol Police actually have a probably higher definition
00:13:09.800 than what they actually put out on Rumble.
00:13:11.440 So they should actually have a better look at this.
00:13:13.520 And they probably already did.
00:13:14.700 So if you go back to what Barry Loudermilk showed in January of 2025, we learned that
00:13:18.680 the FBI identified 186 cell phones that were in the possible area of and generally pinged
00:13:24.020 that were worth noticing.
00:13:25.380 You'll notice that he pulled his mask down right there.
00:13:27.160 I just got to stop you, Kyle.
00:13:28.540 I said, I mean, just play this again.
00:13:30.120 It's Brian Cole. 0.97
00:13:31.740 It's a skinny black dude. 0.93
00:13:33.440 It's him.
00:13:34.300 It's the family.
00:13:35.120 We bought them the coat.
00:13:36.000 They got there.
00:13:36.400 And like, then down the road, you got this clear woman, you know, wandering around putting 1.00
00:13:41.960 these bombs.
00:13:42.740 I mean, my, this is, this is, it's him and it's not the same outfit as the, as the, who
00:13:48.120 they have planting the bombs, Kyle.
00:13:49.920 I mean, I'm no FBI agent, but this is pretty fricking clear.
00:13:52.460 yeah so this is between uh 757 and about 805 and at that point the pipe bomber is halfway through
00:13:59.140 the route so has already dropped one at the dnc and is a mile away uh brian's picture is up here
00:14:04.020 you see on sort of like the northwest side of the capital the pipe bomber was on the southeast side
00:14:08.640 and would have to travel a mile between the two of them it's not physically possible to occupy two
00:14:12.680 places you know time and space so this little clip that you're seeing i think is really damning to
00:14:16.920 the government's case and again all you need to do for the for the defense to win is to show
00:14:20.480 reasonable doubt and i think that any reasonable person especially a washington dc jury is going
00:14:24.640 to look at a black man who's lumbering in a certain way who's wearing his shoes the way that brian
00:14:28.140 cole jr did who's got a jacket on that his grandmother is going to testify she bought
00:14:31.760 she said she bought it with a cole's credit card which should be easily accessible to the fbi
00:14:35.620 and the deep kind of dark part of it is is i think the fbi probably ruled him out in february of 2021
00:14:40.760 which is when they identified all the 186 cell phone numbers and they moved on what you're seeing
00:14:46.500 at that that little sort of clip that your folks were just showing was at 757 it's kind of the
00:14:51.000 earliest grainiest shittiest footage they have of this sort of stream of putting multiple cameras
00:14:55.820 together but they backtracked from the good video that you and i just saw where you can see and pull
00:14:59.540 the mask down and then they went and they said okay well who you know who was that person tracked
00:15:04.340 him through all the different cameras and got about eight minutes of him walking what you're
00:15:07.360 also seeing is that the pipe bomb was physically on foot and captured on surveillance cameras
00:15:11.220 about a mile away at the exact same time doesn't have big shoulders and isn't a black guy 1.00
00:15:16.540 and and and it looks like a woman definitely athletic it's definitely someone walking
00:15:21.780 athletically brian cole autistic minimal arm swing keeps his hands close to his body has a
00:15:27.340 strange shuffle ship and part of that is because he's not actually wearing his shoes all the way
00:15:31.020 again he works better in crocs which is why they ended up stop buying him the nicer shoes because
00:15:35.260 he was crushing them and breaking them and you have right there you know a pretty decent uh instinct
00:15:39.800 of how tall he is those are 42 inch little uh baller or ballers there whatever they're called
00:15:44.280 ballers those those uh black kind of dividers that keep cars from going you can't even see when he
00:15:48.780 pulls the mask down it's him so this is open and shut i mean what do you call it's not as reasonable
00:15:52.800 doubt it is absolutely clear cut i mean what is that called in investigations exoneration i suppose
00:16:00.100 apparently what they were trying to do for shawnee kirkhoff when they were out there apparently the
00:16:03.020 fbi was interested in exonerating and clearing would you call it airtight alibi uh i think if
00:16:08.680 you can say that it's the same guy then yes and so obviously you're going to need a little bit
00:16:12.180 more than what we have with just the footage there but i think that the uh if you look at
00:16:15.700 the picture of him that's what he looks like he's a black man wearing glasses that are not
00:16:19.420 sunglasses he's wearing a mask that his mom apparently made he's walking in the way that
00:16:23.440 brian cole walks i just watched um a youtube stream where people who have been in the courtroom
00:16:28.700 with brian cole said that's what he looks like he kind of does this kind of shuffle well you
00:16:32.480 even see it in the squad car pullover it's his legs it's him yeah so i think a lot of people
00:16:38.240 are going to see it the crazy bit to me and this is what actually confirms it as much as anything
00:16:41.240 else Alex this will be not foreign to you the mainstream media won't touch it not on the left
00:16:45.360 and not on the right I just saw Steven Crowder so kudos to him for going out and pointing out
00:16:49.160 that this came out but basically you're going to see total silence from the people that celebrated
00:16:53.640 the arrest of Brian Cole in the first place and that's going to be a lot of different folks who
00:16:57.580 will not touch this with a 10-foot pole because they've already celebrated the grab of this guy
00:17:01.600 and at the end of the day what he says is that he was supportive at least kind of MAGA curious if
00:17:07.040 you will he thought it was wrong what was going on uh and then you got this person on the screen
00:17:11.140 right here which moves nothing like brian cole one of the other things as darling as you most
00:17:16.280 listeners are but this is who they say the pipe bomber is totally different build a gray uh
00:17:22.940 sweatsuit top not the same person and you clearly have brian cole metadata same time as the bombs
00:17:30.680 are being planted a mile away walking around i mean this is open and shut for me i mean
00:17:36.720 So I'm going to tell you one other thing, and I'm actually going to tease something out because it wasn't my story to share in the first place, but we did end up telling it on the podcast that's going to come out on Thursday of this week. So I rarely will plug something and tell people, you know, stay tuned or whatever. But I taped something. I'm going out of town. We've got an episode that's running on Thursday that I think will lock this up even more for people.
00:17:56.440 It's Steve Baker's story that I contributed to.
00:17:59.140 And we did some video work and some reenactment that I think is going to be very compelling
00:18:03.420 to people.
00:18:03.880 I brought on a panel of a couple of experts to evaluate something that you just showed
00:18:07.420 and nobody knows what they just saw.
00:18:09.240 But when you see it, you won't be able to unsee it again.
00:18:12.140 And I think it's going to be, there's really three parts to this case.
00:18:14.960 One is like, who is the broad conspiracy that made this happen?
00:18:17.580 Two, is Brian Cole guilty or innocent?
00:18:19.580 I think he's innocent based on the stuff I've seen.
00:18:22.240 And then the other question is, is who's the real person in the pipe bomb?
00:18:24.580 the outfit, the hoodie, walking around on that
00:18:26.800 day. And I think we have some more to share with that
00:18:28.860 on Thursday. And by the way, Kyle, I'm not saying
00:18:30.800 this to scoop your Thursday show,
00:18:32.620 but, you know, you and I get the same subpoena
00:18:35.040 notices on a routine basis.
00:18:37.060 You understand. I mean, I know you're smart.
00:18:38.660 I'm not patronizing you. This
00:18:40.900 could, exposes the entire
00:18:43.020 system. This is guaranteed being watched
00:18:45.060 at the FBI headquarters right now.
00:18:47.380 DOJ.
00:18:49.380 I mean, you need to be really 0.99
00:18:51.260 I hope you have a dead man
00:18:52.980 switch or something because you say you've got something even bigger than this um i think it's 0.65
00:18:58.680 complimentary to this i think this is the biggest piece about what that brian cole wasn't there
00:19:02.760 and then the next question is who the hell is walking around in the other space and and i think
00:19:07.080 there's some things that are going to be very apparent to every reasonable watcher and i put
00:19:11.220 it in front of a half dozen cops and a couple of other federal agents current and retired and they
00:19:15.520 all saw exactly the same thing that i did once i i didn't give them any context i just sent them
00:19:19.160 screenshots i said what do you see and they said the same thing that i thought they would i said
00:19:22.960 how many of you would come on and talk to me about it.
00:19:24.120 But, I mean, listen, I'm not being mean.
00:19:26.200 I mean, it's easy stereotypes.
00:19:28.380 But if I was 200 yards away and I said, who is that walking? 0.80
00:19:31.440 I'd say, it's probably like a black dude. 1.00
00:19:33.060 It's just kind of the classic, you know, I know he's autistic or whatever, 0.97
00:19:35.700 but he's kind of got the – his shoulders are relaxed, the legs are whatever.
00:19:38.500 He's got long legs.
00:19:39.480 I mean, I would definitely say that's a man.
00:19:41.520 I would definitely say that's a man. 0.98
00:19:43.100 Then you look at the other thing, I'd say that's a woman.
00:19:44.860 But at the same time, he isn't dragging around a baggage with bombs in it.
00:19:49.120 I mean, he's exonerated.
00:19:50.680 It's him.
00:19:51.400 He pulls the mask down.
00:19:52.340 It's him.
00:19:53.700 Yeah.
00:19:54.060 Show that video clip one more time.
00:19:55.620 If you're, if you're,
00:19:56.200 your guys can play the video again from the start right now.
00:19:58.780 I want to walk you guys through something you're going to see.
00:20:00.800 So this clip, take it back into the middle of the, uh,
00:20:03.360 into the sidewalk there or into the crosswalk.
00:20:04.980 That's fine right there.
00:20:05.620 Go ahead and play.
00:20:06.540 So he's got a tag on his clothes.
00:20:08.280 He's known to leave tags on his clothes.
00:20:09.800 That's an actual jacket that's hanging out in his closet right now.
00:20:13.740 His grandmother said she recognized buying that,
00:20:15.740 that jacket two weeks before this video.
00:20:17.380 I want people to watch as he walks and he kind of lumbers and he kind of
00:20:20.420 throws, like I said, he throws one foot out further than the other.
00:20:22.960 And as it gets closer, watch him stop.
00:20:25.560 He'll stop when he gets on top of the curb here and he's going to pull his phone out
00:20:29.280 and you'll see he kind of stops and he does kind of this little stumble step and he kind
00:20:33.320 of holds and he's not moving at the same pace he was.
00:20:35.700 They, they pause it and they're going to tell you he's pulling out his phone.
00:20:38.460 So he, he's one of these guys that has to do one thing at a time.
00:20:42.220 He can kind of, you know, wander around and pull the phone out, but it really slows his
00:20:45.580 normal pace.
00:20:46.700 And then you're going to see him pull the phone up and he holds it about six inches
00:20:49.980 or eight inches away from his face.
00:20:51.400 and that's the that's because he's profoundly nearsighted he does the exact same thing when
00:20:56.800 he's in the the body cam footage from the traffic stop the man has to get his face eight inches away
00:21:01.600 from a piece of paper to be able to fill it out he holds a phone up like this the way most people
00:21:05.500 won't and it blocks the body language i don't need ai nsa to tell me it's brian cole it's brian
00:21:11.160 cole and you show a jury that everybody knows that's brian cole the most important thing is
00:21:17.680 is that it's the government's burden is they have to be beyond a reasonable doubt and if you look
00:21:21.760 at this and you don't have reasonable doubt and they can't tell you who this person is the only
00:21:25.920 thing i can think that the doj would try to do right now is produce some guy who has the same
00:21:30.380 haircut who's nearsighted who happens to have new balance shoes that he can show he's been wearing
00:21:35.000 for a couple of years and he doesn't wear them with his heels in and has the same jacket that
00:21:39.440 he keeps the tags on and it's still got but then we magically have his interrogation saying i'm
00:21:44.040 innocent and where he was which is proven so how do they do that again i think that's the only move
00:21:50.420 the doj has unless they go out there and say hey we blew it in which case they probably owe him like
00:21:54.240 a nine-figure settlement i don't i don't know what the answer is going to be for what we see from
00:21:58.980 here but what i think is that baker blew this thing open and again the mainstream media blackout
00:22:03.860 on this is really the big story it's kind of what i talked about this morning on my podcast i totally
00:22:07.520 agree let's stop right there because i'm going to put what you say right now in front of the
00:22:10.340 interview when we posted on x and rumble needs to go mega viral give us an opening statement
00:22:14.020 instead of my babbling intro say in your own words this is a major cover-up this is the big
00:22:18.320 one people we need to call in the public now to take action go ahead call serving
00:22:21.780 over the weekend steve baker dropped exclusive footage that i think is exculpatory at the
00:22:27.780 minimum and i think it is highly convincing to any person to include a dc jury that brian
00:22:32.760 cole jr was one mile away while the pipe bombs were being placed and the footage appears to
00:22:38.720 confirm that we have the same jacket we have the same mask we've got a man with the same haircut
00:22:43.060 who also wears glasses who wears shoes the same way that brian cole jr does who walks the same
00:22:47.700 way brian cole jr does and by the way the family still has fabric from those masks still has the
00:22:52.800 uh the shoes hanging around uh he walks with his hand and his phone the same way that brian does
00:22:58.440 so you've got about an eight minute alibi showing that he was a mile away while the pipe bomb was
00:23:03.840 physically on foot and he's not wearing a hood and he certainly didn't teleport with uh you know
00:23:08.540 some sort of new technology or fly with the Elon Musk's, you know, new roadster.
00:23:12.720 He didn't jump the Capitol and rock it over.
00:23:15.020 I'll give you the last little piece that I think nails this thing shut.
00:23:18.000 And it's that during the interrogation,
00:23:20.180 the FBI specifically was looking for him to talk about his car.
00:23:23.920 And I sent over some screenshots where they bring up, you know, you know,
00:23:27.560 what car did you, how'd you get up there? He says, I drove, I drove myself.
00:23:30.140 If you're actually seeing the body cam footage right now,
00:23:32.140 that's his blue Nissan right there in the, he's, he's got his, uh,
00:23:35.120 he's standing on top of the hood of it. He's, you know,
00:23:38.060 talking to the cop. That blue Nissan is not what the FBI was looking for. And I sent over a quick
00:23:44.180 screenshot. This that you're seeing right now on the screen comes from the discovery. It's document
00:23:48.980 59-2 that people can find. It was filed on April the 1st of this year by the government saying,
00:23:55.360 these are the vehicles of interest that we have. This is all of their sensitive sub-files that show
00:24:00.660 what they were looking for as they were trying to identify the pipe bomber. The first thing is a
00:24:04.560 compact gray hatchback. And then it goes through with some license plate reader data, a couple
00:24:08.860 things about a Tesla and some Ford trucks and maybe a white van. But overwhelmingly, the most
00:24:13.480 common name that is listed in that list of documents is they are looking for a Subaru.
00:24:19.140 They are not looking for a Nissan Sentra like you see on the screen where they went and searched it.
00:24:23.500 They are looking for a Subaru and they have a list of Subaru owners and Subaru VINs. And they're
00:24:28.100 looking for Subarus here and there. And obviously, Brian Cole has no access to a Subaru. But the
00:24:32.900 person who uh steve baker initially named who was a capital police officer on january 6th and
00:24:37.800 happens to work for the cia right now is in fact not only a subaru owner but also a driver so all
00:24:42.760 of that actually tends to check out from the original theory again if you believe this is a
00:24:46.460 cover-up there's a lot of information that would lead you to believe that and it keeps kind of
00:24:51.140 slowly dripping back out i think steve baker stepped on a live wire he lost his job at the
00:24:55.400 blaze he lost the support of glenn beck he had daniel bongino come out and say that he was a
00:24:59.200 problem they went out and got him fired from his job so he's operating freelance and solo
00:25:02.780 And they did probably the worst thing you can do to a guy who's not going to let this bone fall out of his mouth.
00:25:08.100 He just kept pulling on this.
00:25:09.880 And when they finally released the transcript of that confession, we got the beginnings of where to look for Brian Cole in real life on the camera footage.
00:25:20.000 Steve and his team had spent probably hundreds and hundreds of man hours looking on the south side of the Capitol because that was where the FBI ended up picking him up.
00:25:27.360 And that's what made sense.
00:25:28.600 when you see that he says well i was at a protest and i was sitting around and i was doing things
00:25:33.460 in front of the capitol it changed the entire perspective and they started ripping through
00:25:36.980 camera footage up where they eventually found him and so now they're going to find even more
00:25:41.700 so let's go to break and come back what is the deep state i want you to go back to the timeline
00:25:45.540 because this is what's so powerful how long was it after this lady got identified as potentially
00:25:50.000 the cia lady suddenly they go from dormant for four years to grabbing brian cole jr i mean that
00:25:57.040 right there her name came out at the beginning of november brian cole was arrested on december
00:26:01.840 the 4th they started surveilling him one week after they went and started looking into her and
00:26:06.380 by the way it shouldn't be lost on people she failed a polygraph when they asked the critical
00:26:09.940 questions did you place the pipe bombs on that night and did you place those pipe bombs both of
00:26:14.540 those indicated deception when the fbi interviewed the woman so again this takes us back to that
00:26:18.960 story where i think steve baker's had it right the whole time i've always thought and i've always
00:26:23.600 known that Brian Cole was not the right guy.
00:26:25.640 I said it less than an hour after he was right.
00:26:27.260 Well, let's talk about it, because he's got some high-powered lawyers, too.
00:26:30.240 What's the deep state going to do now?
00:26:31.660 It just keeps blowing up in their face.
00:26:33.660 Kyle Serafin, we've got more FBI news as well
00:26:35.600 on what's happening. Straight ahead, stay with us.
00:26:47.660 Defending the Republic
00:26:48.860 from enemies, foreign and domestic.
00:26:52.400 It's Alex Jones.
00:26:58.220 All right, the bigger story here is,
00:27:00.600 and I want Kyle Saruman to finish up with all the other key points
00:27:02.780 we haven't gotten to on this Brian Cole Jr.
00:27:06.160 Set up that's been ridiculous the whole time
00:27:08.360 and has completely fallen apart.
00:27:10.600 And now, clearly him and the footage up close his face.
00:27:14.680 The family bought him the coat.
00:27:15.820 They've got all the proof it's his walk.
00:27:17.520 This other person, they're looking for a car that matches
00:27:19.720 The woman that was in public investigations by Steve Baker pointed out, and then you have nothing going on for four years, and suddenly in just a few weeks, in a week, they're already on him.
00:27:30.820 A month later, he's in handcuffs, and the family's saying he's totally innocent.
00:27:35.900 What is the deep state going to do now?
00:27:37.920 And the bigger question is, why suddenly, four months of the administration last year, the new administration, did they start covering up Epstein, Crooks in Pennsylvania, this event, then with Kirk to cover up?
00:27:54.120 I mean, it was like there was a total shift.
00:27:56.420 And I remember Tucker at the time telling me about this in person, saying, man, I just had Bongino screaming and cussing and yelling at me, totally freaking out.
00:28:05.000 what's really going on here Kyle just big picture because this is this is really frightening
00:28:09.080 what's funny because I still remember where I was when you were telling me that you had just been
00:28:13.920 with Tucker and that happened so you and I are talking I was returning a grocery cart about to
00:28:18.520 get back in my minivan and leave an HEB with my kids and it was it was something that took place
00:28:23.260 you know June and then the beginning of July like over the weekend of July 4th was kind of like when
00:28:28.520 I noticed it really kind of swing into full play but we ended Doge we ended the Butler investigation
00:28:33.540 We stopped looking into Epstein. The files were closed. They dropped it on a on a Sunday night and they said, we're not going to do that.
00:28:39.420 And he killed himself and stopped asking all the questions and whatever it was you thought was going to happen is not.
00:28:44.140 And it just seemed like that was when, you know, if there was a power struggle happening inside of our government between, let's call it, you know, administrative state people who just want the status quo and whatever the reform that Trump was representing that I think people wanted.
00:28:58.300 that's when the battle was lost it was lost like right at the beginning of july going like from
00:29:03.160 the fourth to the seventh it was really the official kind of end of it and you and i were
00:29:06.880 talking and you told me i just had this crazy conversation i'm here i am talking to tucker
00:29:10.400 carlson and he's got you know i hear a bunch you know screaming at him in the other room
00:29:14.420 and we just saw tucker go out and and kind of say if you guys saw the conversations that we had and
00:29:19.200 i'm not going to share the text messages but they were atrocious i had real time you know sort of
00:29:23.900 secondhand confirmation that what he's talking about is real because you and i were talking
00:29:27.380 about it right then so i don't know what the answer is i don't know what their response is to
00:29:31.120 this i suspect nothing if like if it was me and you and i have talked about some of the failures
00:29:36.360 the trump administration have had on messaging alone their biggest failure has been trying to
00:29:42.000 cover up and say that the things that we did are not a big deal and you know you're that we don't
00:29:45.920 need your support anymore and all this kind of stuff and now they're panicking because the midterms
00:29:49.420 are looking atrocious i i think their best answer which is probably what they'll do is they're going
00:29:53.520 to act like this didn't happen the problem is is two million people saw this yesterday on x
00:29:57.500 and there will be more as well and it'll be shared around and i saw a couple hundred thousand people
00:30:01.460 just saw it on steven crowder's and a couple hundred thousand yeah it's blowing up and then
00:30:04.840 what happens when they finally have a trial i'm worried they're going to epstein brian cole jr
00:30:09.320 you you can't expect that they're going to win look that may be the end goal like maybe they
00:30:13.560 don't have like a ton of evil in them and let's give them the benefit of the most doubt which i
00:30:17.200 don't think is justified you take brian cole jr you keep him in prison for the next couple months
00:30:21.400 His trial is supposed to start in February of next year, and you put that in front of a D.C. jury, and the defense rolls out and says, hey, we think he's actually here.
00:30:28.180 They got the wrong guy.
00:30:29.200 And by the way, we have an alternate subject theory, and the alternate subject has a bunch of problems and was excused by the mainstream media and got a puff piece by the New York Times and was keeping track of puppies.
00:30:38.260 Just kidding.
00:30:38.820 They were dogs.
00:30:39.420 Just kidding.
00:30:39.800 It's just a dog that's an old greyhound, and she's not in the video, and nobody could ever fake the metadata, and we're not going to give you the metadata anyway.
00:30:46.040 That kind of nonsense.
00:30:47.000 They could go and do that. 0.98
00:30:47.860 And then you're going to have jurors who are in Washington, D.C., who are left-leaning, that several of them are going to be black, and they're going to go, you bullied the crap out of a kid for two hours who's on the autism spectrum, who's OCD. 0.95
00:31:02.340 There's this video that's probably him on the other side of the Capitol. 0.89
00:31:06.020 You don't have an answer for that.
00:31:07.580 You couldn't find him for five years.
00:31:09.000 And let me just get the biggest picture.
00:31:10.200 to believe that brian cole jr is the right guy which i never have you'd have to believe that the
00:31:16.620 fbi which we spend 11 billion dollars a year on couldn't find someone who committed the most
00:31:21.640 dangerous crime on january 6th while carrying his own phone while driving his own car and buying
00:31:27.260 parts for a bomb with his own credit card and it took the fbi five years to find that person 0.98
00:31:31.420 that's utter bullshit there's no way that's true that could never be true and you can't tell me 0.98
00:31:35.500 that you didn't find out anything new and then suddenly you're like oh we just brought in a red 0.99
00:31:40.000 team and they were able to look at the same data and the fbi couldn't handle it the fbi finds
00:31:44.580 people who have been kidnapped in hours on a regular basis they help out local law enforcement
00:31:48.380 with this i've seen it i sat next to the cell phone analyst team there's one of the guys who
00:31:52.500 was dedicated to that actual team he was a national asset he sat in las cruces new mexico
00:31:56.360 and i've watched him do that i've watched him find somebody in real time from cell phone pings 0.57
00:32:00.420 so there's no way that this was a true story it was always crap and if you go look and i think
00:32:05.100 i sent you guys the hannity clip sean hannity he just put the nail in the coffin for the new 0.91
00:32:09.200 white house press secretary he kind of like shut her down and she ended up being fired the next
00:32:12.900 morning uh he kind of did the same thing to daniel bongino he brought him on right on this on this
00:32:17.980 on the eve of this on december the 4th of last year and he said hey man you used to say that
00:32:22.380 it was a government insider and it was a deep state plot and that it was the democrats doing
00:32:25.680 all this stuff and now you're saying it's somebody else what the hell are you doing and dan goes
00:32:30.440 and he just looks down and goes i think the public will be pretty comfortable with the subject that
00:32:36.500 we've introduced to you try to go in front of a federal magistrate judge and they say is there
00:32:40.800 probable cause to believe this person committed the crime and you say we're pretty comfortable
00:32:45.120 it's never going to happen if you want to roll the clip it yeah we will and i want to explain
00:32:49.300 something i like bongino before i'm not this is not a hard on about bongino it's about his behavior
00:32:57.160 in the position he was in and the 180 he did so before i want to go to hannity he took the victory
00:33:03.480 lap on this arrest for whatever it's worth he owned it he got out there and he he claimed it
00:33:07.780 was him he said he was the you know he was the one cash patel said he spearheaded the effort to
00:33:12.500 go out and find him yeah so let's go to daniel vangino's birthday let's go to this clip one is
00:33:17.340 that first i don't want to show what tucker said about vangino freaking out on him about this pipe
00:33:23.140 Bomber information. But first, here's the clip you're mentioning from Hannity. You know, I don't
00:33:28.100 know if you remember this. This is before you became the deputy FBI director. You put a post on
00:33:33.800 X right after this happened. And you said there's a massive cover up because the person that planted
00:33:39.640 those pipe bombs, they don't want you to know who it is because it's either a connected anti-Trump
00:33:46.360 insider or an inside job. You said that, you know, long before you even thought of as deputy FBI
00:33:53.000 director? Yeah, that's why I said to you this investigation has just begun. We are pretty
00:34:00.820 comfortable. We have our guy. I think there's, again, legal process starts to surface and
00:34:05.800 information, facts start to come out. The public is going to be very comfortable with the
00:34:09.640 investigation that was conducted under Director Patel and his leadership. He's been great on this.
00:34:16.480 But I don't want to, you know, listen, I was paid in the past, Sean, for my opinions. That's clear.
00:34:21.540 And one day I'll be back in that space. But that's not what I'm paid for now. I'm paid to be your deputy director. And we base investigations on facts.
00:34:30.220 And, you know, it was interesting. I was looking out in the crowd today at the presser and I saw a couple of media figures who you and I both know who promoted the other scandal, the collusion hoax.
00:34:41.360 And I thought to myself, you know, the difference between us and them is, you know, we evolve as information and new inputs come out.
00:34:48.420 We can produce different outputs because that's what we believe in.
00:34:51.660 We believe in facts and investigations guided by facts.
00:34:55.300 There were people out there in that crowd.
00:34:56.980 I'm sure I'm sure still believe in this collusion fairy tale hoax.
00:35:00.840 So we'll see.
00:35:01.960 We're going to be guided by the facts as this thing goes forward.
00:35:04.540 And I also, I can't stop the, you know, leave the truck here without thanking the president.
00:35:12.860 The president.
00:35:13.840 Wow.
00:35:14.400 When somebody is asked a serious question and they bring up another case entirely and how the liberals lie.
00:35:22.060 So just trust me.
00:35:23.120 That's an appeal to just trust me, bro.
00:35:26.060 I don't know what else you call that.
00:35:27.280 That's really bad.
00:35:29.380 And then now this whole thing continues to fall apart.
00:35:32.220 Really, really, really wild.
00:35:34.540 And so I wonder what they're going to do.
00:35:38.120 Like you said, they just hope it goes away,
00:35:39.960 and then he just gets found not guilty, I guess,
00:35:42.380 and then we just forget about it.
00:35:43.860 But in the court of public opinion, they're pretty convicted.
00:35:47.120 Has Bongino responded to this since it broke over the weekend?
00:35:51.100 No, he said he watches Moranistan and Podcatistan for people
00:35:55.260 so they don't have to, and everybody just needs to go to the polls.
00:35:57.940 This is all attempts to stop Donald Trump's midterm victory.
00:36:01.220 Let me add a couple of pieces of commentary
00:36:03.200 to what you just saw on that on that hand hold on wait he said without addressing it just off
00:36:08.120 handily this is a dirty trick he just said yeah there's dirty tricks afoot right now so make sure
00:36:12.860 you vote hard that was that make sure we put brian cole in prison right that's right so there's a
00:36:19.020 couple things number one uh you know any port in the storm when you know that you're lying
00:36:22.440 is is somewhere to go i suppose and what you saw dan do is uh daniel pump pivots to russia gate
00:36:28.080 which is a thing he's written books about and he has you know credentialism on and authority
00:36:31.880 so people kind of know that so he does the best he can to walk away from that and says you know
00:36:35.580 you can't trust these people who are going to be critical of me because uh they probably believed
00:36:39.180 in russiagate uh it's like okay well that doesn't really help us in any meaningful way so that's
00:36:43.940 part one the second thing he brings up donald trump and cash patel he's shaking his head left
00:36:48.380 to right like you would say no while he says cash patel has been awesome on this that's kind of
00:36:52.600 funny and then i guess maybe the most important bit in the last little bit he calls out how donald
00:36:56.620 trump you know if you didn't work for donald trump you couldn't do this donald trump has never
00:37:00.480 publicly congratulated cash patel pam bondi janine piero or daniel bongino for their work on this
00:37:06.640 case you guys can look it up you can go to the archives trump who calls out every victory his uh
00:37:11.800 his team has has had cash patel show up and do like a fake briefing of great statistics of how
00:37:17.140 the fbi is performing has never once said great job on this you guys got the pipe bomber because
00:37:22.360 nobody on his staff from what i hear believes that this is a legit case now best case scenario
00:37:27.340 Best case scenario for like, I don't know, like the nothing happens kind of thing.
00:37:30.560 They take it to court.
00:37:31.660 They get the man acquitted, which I think is the only outcome you're going to get in a
00:37:34.860 D.C. jury.
00:37:36.200 And then the D.O.J. throws up their hands and said, sorry, statute of limitations.
00:37:40.340 It's more than five years past.
00:37:41.900 We're not going to be able to go out there and re prosecute this case.
00:37:46.220 So, you know, we think he was the right guy, but our case just wasn't strong enough or
00:37:49.960 a D.C. jury or the corrupt court system, whatever they want to go and blame it on,
00:37:53.100 they can walk away with it.
00:37:54.000 So maybe that's the the best outcome for DOJ is that they lose and they blame a D.C. jury.
00:37:59.100 It's a bunch of liberals fault. But at the end of the day, I think they've tried to set somebody up who is objectively not the right guy.
00:38:05.340 And the things that they did are atrocious. They've they had to ignore all the obvious evidence up front.
00:38:11.140 And he said in that clip, when we get new information, then we can get new outputs.
00:38:15.880 The new information is we think Brian Cole Jr. is walking on the northwest side of the Capitol while you think he's walking on the southeast.
00:38:22.560 so now you have new information it'd be nice if the fbi rapid response or cash patel's press
00:38:27.560 secretary the guy's name uh what is it ben williamson it'd be nice if these people had
00:38:30.820 something to say because it's not going to go away people aren't going to just forget about it
00:38:34.160 after two million people saw it yesterday and probably another million or so see it today
00:38:37.980 well you're absolutely right and tens of millions of people share this live feed right now
00:38:42.940 what is this dan bongino comment he says who's he talking to remember when your producer reached
00:38:48.540 out begging me he's always about everyone's begging him he's the quarterback he's the high
00:38:53.500 school cool kid and and and and like everyone's who's he attacking here i have no idea i mean he
00:39:00.200 that's been his mo he's been reaching out and attacking i mean it's kind of a bongino thing
00:39:03.380 he's like new york tough guy online so he does a lot of this stuff one of the funny things was 0.92
00:39:07.580 is he pivoted and started talking shit about me about uh two years ago and it was over this really 0.71
00:39:13.580 bizarre thing that apparently was some sort of a pr op they were trying to do with trump's legal 0.94
00:39:17.360 issues so there was a question about whether or not you could use deadly force as an fbi agent
00:39:21.000 on the mar-a-lago raid and dan's a former federal agent he knows that if you're a federal agent
00:39:25.560 whether you're secret service or dea or fbi you can always use deadly force if the policy is met
00:39:30.560 and so he had julie kelly march out and say that the the fbi was trying to kill donald trump under
00:39:35.360 the you know previous administration i don't think they should have raided mar-a-lago i think that
00:39:39.440 was actually really an evil thing they did to our country but the deadly force policy is always
00:39:43.840 sure he spun that so let's look at this uh clip what he's done is he's gone from being the biggest 0.60
00:39:48.560 uh attacker of the fbi where he was calling out their corruption saying that this was a cover-up
00:39:53.980 for several years he actually stated that he believed the fbi knew exactly who the pipe bomber
00:39:58.760 was and that it was the one of the biggest scandals in fbi history and then he gets in there and
00:40:03.280 suddenly he's like nope they're red white and blue and i love them and they're all working really
00:40:06.380 hard he says it's a false flag when we played the clip earlier because he's gotten more information
00:40:11.000 And now we see the new information.
00:40:12.860 They clearly just set up a Patsy to cover up a false flag.
00:40:15.840 That's what all the evidence points said.
00:40:17.020 And the court public opinion, Dan needs to know that.
00:40:19.560 Very, very sad to watch him do that.
00:40:21.240 Here's Tucker Carlson.
00:40:22.340 And, you know, when I told you that, because I don't tell a lot of people stuff,
00:40:26.560 because I was bouncing stuff off you, I forgot I did tell you back at the time
00:40:30.340 that I was just talking to Tucker.
00:40:31.960 I was just, you know, up at Tucker's, and he's literally having to go
00:40:35.080 and take calls from Bongino, screaming at him,
00:40:36.900 and all because he's asking about the pipe bomber
00:40:39.040 and asking about all this evidence, you know.
00:40:41.680 And so I did tell you about the story.
00:40:44.340 Here's Tucker talking about it now.
00:40:46.720 Here's the clip.
00:40:48.500 He said to me, this is verbatim.
00:40:51.960 He said, however bad you think it is here,
00:40:54.360 it's 10 times worse.
00:40:55.980 This is shocking what's happening at the FBI.
00:40:57.940 He said that to me on the phone.
00:40:59.040 Bongino goes in to the FBI with, I think, the best intentions.
00:41:03.580 I knew Bongino.
00:41:04.880 I worked with him at Fox.
00:41:05.940 I knew him well.
00:41:06.820 He goes into the FBI, calls me,
00:41:08.280 will you host my show on my first day in the federal government? Like his first day that he
00:41:13.020 was on the air, I hosted the show and I called into him and we talked and he was great. And he
00:41:18.060 had not exactly the same views that I have, but like pretty close. He was, you know, the government's
00:41:22.860 corrupt and we're going to, we're going to drain that swamp. And I think he really meant it. He
00:41:27.180 seemed to mean it. I don't know why he claimed that if he didn't mean it. And I think he did
00:41:30.320 mean it. I spoke to him a week or two after he started at the FBI and he said to me, this is
00:41:39.120 verbatim. He said, however bad you think it is here, it's 10 times worse. This is shocking what's
00:41:45.040 happening at the FBI. He said that to me on the phone and I thought, well, thank God that he's
00:41:49.220 there. And then I didn't talk to him that much. And then late last summer, I got someone who I
00:41:58.280 you approach me with thomas crooks's youtube account amazing amazing story fell right into
00:42:06.080 my lap and it turns out that thomas crooks who they told us had no social media profile did
00:42:10.560 and so anyway the first person i called was dan bongino and i said because i knew he's the number
00:42:15.700 two guy at the fbi he's my friend and i say oh my gosh the last guy chris ray told us that this
00:42:22.140 this person the guy who shot trump in the ear at butler had no social media profile which seemed
00:42:26.800 absurd. And it was absurd. It was a lie. And I have it. Great. So I call him. I call Cash Patel.
00:42:34.440 I call the agent in charge of the butler investigation. I tell him all this. And they're
00:42:37.540 all hostile to me. So I sent him some of the stuff. They confirmed it was real. And then they
00:42:42.360 attacked me. They set up an entire website attacking me. And I made a documentary about it.
00:42:48.320 But they attacked me. It's like, wait a second. I thought we were on the same site. Why in the world
00:42:52.580 are you covering up for the thomas crooks shooting like what you have all this information why don't
00:42:58.300 you release it you say it's a lone gunman and he's dead so what could possibly be the justification
00:43:04.080 for holding any information related to thomas crooks and they never answered the question
00:43:08.200 and instead they attacked me and then bongino called me and attacked me on the phone like
00:43:11.540 five times you should read what he sent me i mean i'm attacking my family my my deceased father i
00:43:17.200 mean it's like crazy stuff so those are the facts what can we conclude from those facts well i'll 0.91
00:43:23.480 tell you what i've concluded that bungino who i don't think is an evil person has saw something
00:43:28.220 in the fbi that scared him so completely that he he became emotionally incontinent he's he's a
00:43:36.100 different person um and it destroyed his life and so what is that thing i would like and i've asked
00:43:41.360 him directly recently and he just texts back but it's like okay it's a fair yeah and i want to be
00:43:48.720 clear because so much happens so much goes on i can't remember half of it straight unless i go
00:43:52.340 back to the time and read read text i sent but i mean i'm tucker on multiple things i'm like hey
00:43:58.600 what about crooks what about the pipe bomb what about j6 and it was multiple discussions on the
00:44:03.960 phone and also in person he's like no it's they're all freaked out total 360 you know he calls up and
00:44:09.580 yells at me all the time i mean i was just in there talking to him earlier he goes it's crazy
00:44:14.500 and and so i was just telling you know seraph off record hey he says like there's a total
00:44:18.260 bad stuff about to happen so that's just in general but i also later learned that bongino
00:44:22.480 when he was deputy director did it to all sorts of other talk show hosts not as big as tucker
00:44:26.820 would call up and harangue and yell at them and uh especially they interviewed people like you
00:44:34.620 and so he was a very busy beaver running around trying to police everybody go ahead
00:44:40.240 Yeah, no, I mean, we have some of the same contacts and we have some different ones.
00:44:43.600 And I know people have told me that they would get these phone calls where he would just scream at them.
00:44:48.700 And then 15 minutes later, we'd get a text message saying, you know, good talk or something like that.
00:44:53.320 And so Tucker's comment about being emotionally incontinent is actually I've never heard that term before, but I like it a lot.
00:44:59.220 Somebody who just is so at wit's end, they're just operating on a survival mechanism.
00:45:03.960 And I don't know what happened to Dan Bongino.
00:45:05.340 And I never saw something that would scare the crap out of me at the FBI that way.
00:45:08.200 I did see that press conference, and it looked like what evil people do, where you go out and you cheer on locking up a patsy who couldn't be the person that you yourself had said it could be.
00:45:19.200 Daniel Bongino, Cash Patel, went for literally years talking about who and what the pipe bomber was.
00:45:24.660 Dan spent hours on his show discussing it.
00:45:27.260 He talked about the works of Darren Beattie, who's now in the government.
00:45:29.720 Talked about Julie Kelly looking into it.
00:45:31.620 She also shouldn't agree with this story.
00:45:34.120 Talked about the work of Steve Baker previously.
00:45:36.220 very very flatteringly uh also brought up people who else mike benz you know and so if you're going
00:45:42.320 out there and you're citing all these other people who have looked into the same thing and said the
00:45:45.040 government obviously released garbage footage doctored the frame rates you know redacted the
00:45:50.760 eyes and the face in any of the the clear spots where we might be able to see who it was theoretically
00:45:55.200 the fbi was trying to find out who the pipe bomber was while hiding the identity of the pipe bomber
00:45:59.500 by giving you garbage footage instead of better footage and occasionally gave you you know zoomed
00:46:04.200 out versions where you could see them walk and every time you see it you're like well that's not
00:46:07.460 brian cole that person had to be connected to the government again we'll kind of just do a little
00:46:11.580 like retouching of some of the bases but the capitol police uh were called to the scene of
00:46:16.860 the first bomb that was discovered it was actually the second bomb sorry they were called to the rnc
00:46:22.180 which is the first bomb that was discovered the second bomb that was placed all right and that
00:46:25.620 was just before the capitol was breached about 20 minutes before they sent out a bomb squad they
00:46:29.880 They, you know, cordoned off the area and then they dispatched their counter surveillance agents to go out there and take a look and see, hey, are there any other devices?
00:46:37.180 The problem is, is the agents that found bomb number two, which was the first one planted over by the DNC, they were already in motion before the radio call went out to go look for bombs.
00:46:46.960 So they were already moving in the right direction.
00:46:49.320 And then they got out of their car and they found the second bomb in 11 minutes and 28 seconds.
00:46:53.640 From the time that they got out of their car, it took them less than 12 minutes to find the second bomb, and then they never looked for another bomb again.
00:47:00.360 And Tom Massey has called this out and said, what would cause someone to do that?
00:47:03.060 Tom Massey interviewed those agents, and it turns out, and Alex, this is like one of those detailed things that's so crazy.
00:47:08.560 The bomb squad commander from the first scene from the ATF at the RNC pipe bomb scene left the job at the ATF and became the supervisor of the counter surveillance unit for the for the Capitol Police and sat in the room with Tom Massey as he was trying to interview the two agents who found the bomb and ran interference and did not let them be questioned as their supervisor.
00:47:33.020 Wow, so acting very, very paranoid, and also they're letting school kids walk by the, quote, bombs they found.
00:47:41.000 They're not acting paranoid at all.
00:47:42.660 Like, you find bombs, potentially.
00:47:44.080 Everybody's like, whoa, wait for the bomb squad.
00:47:46.160 They're all just standing around like it's an inanimate object.
00:47:49.740 Yeah, it's even worse than that.
00:47:50.800 The ones who found the bombs went up and told the two on-duty people there.
00:47:53.840 There was a Secret Service agent, and there was a Metro police officer in a car, in a suburban, which was part of Kamala Harris's motorcade.
00:48:00.140 And they went over and said, hey, you know, there's a pipe bomb over there and we don't know what else was said.
00:48:03.600 But it must have been something like it's a training device and don't worry about it because those guys finished their sandwich.
00:48:08.220 Then they never set out a minimum safe distance.
00:48:10.220 They never did the cordon.
00:48:11.180 They never stopped traffic.
00:48:12.320 They never stopped the metro train, which was 60 feet away.
00:48:14.800 They took their sweet little time getting over to it.
00:48:17.000 So they clearly weren't worried about a bomb, which is why when I was briefed about it, hey, were these bombs legit?
00:48:21.340 The thing that they told us when we were being briefed one week after January 6th at the Joint Terrorism Task Force sent out briefers to tell us because we were doing surveillance on the case.
00:48:31.460 And they said, yeah, they look very bomb like. So we've always known there had to be some government component to it.
00:48:36.920 By the way, one of those agents who helped find the bomb, the counter surveillance guys, was promoted into a position where he is now the liaison between the FBI and Capitol Police.
00:48:47.560 So when we talk about kind of the three forks of the case, one of them is the broader conspiracy, which Daniel Bongino used to acknowledge was real.
00:48:53.920 The other is if Brian Cole Jr. did it and if he's innocent, and I think he's innocent.
00:48:57.620 And then the other one is who actually planted those bombs.
00:48:59.860 And all three of those things all have elements that prove to me that the government had to have been involved.
00:49:04.680 And by the way, Kash Patel and Bongino, who are now part of the government or formerly part of the government, they all used to say the same thing.
00:49:10.720 There's hours and hours of footage of this.
00:49:12.800 I put together a compilation.
00:49:14.420 It's wild.
00:49:14.900 They said it was the biggest scandal of our lifetimes.
00:49:17.540 They said it's the craziest thing that, you know, the government.
00:49:19.920 Let me ask you this to speculate.
00:49:21.960 Why would Trump run on exposing all this?
00:49:25.680 Pennsylvania, D.C., and then suddenly do a 180.
00:49:28.960 And we now know it was directives from Trump.
00:49:31.260 What is that in making a deal with the deep state or what?
00:49:34.620 I don't know.
00:49:35.040 We're watching the same thing happen with Bongino.
00:49:36.600 So how do you take someone that says one thing, goes in and has access to do something about it, and they do something different?
00:49:41.660 And what I see from Trump 1.0 was that he lost money going into the office of the presidency. He was financially drained by doing that. And then he was deeply attacked. He was threatened with prison. They basically threatened to put him in prison until he died. State, local, federal, all the things were coming after him.
00:49:56.600 And then you look around and you go, okay, well, what's he doing this time?
00:50:00.660 It's like, well, he was moving in the right direction.
00:50:02.700 We had Doge.
00:50:03.340 We had the fork in the road.
00:50:04.240 We were going to get rid of a bunch of government programs and so on.
00:50:06.540 And then he stopped.
00:50:08.600 And then he's made like three and a half or four.
00:50:10.600 He's doubled his net worth.
00:50:11.480 He's got billions of dollars in crypto.
00:50:13.060 And he's making tons of stock trades.
00:50:15.060 And people seem to be shorting the market on oil and all this other stuff.
00:50:17.920 And you just go, something happened.
00:50:19.920 I can only see the symptoms.
00:50:21.420 I don't know what the cause is, just like you don't.
00:50:23.540 We don't know what it was.
00:50:24.360 Tucker Carlson doesn't know what it was.
00:50:25.740 but there's clearly a difference between what people said they were going to
00:50:29.160 do and what they're doing.
00:50:30.240 So we can just analyze it from the outside the same way anybody else does.
00:50:33.600 You go, what would make somebody change their mind?
00:50:35.480 It really has to be pretty damn scary.
00:50:37.460 And then, you know, I mean,
00:50:40.120 if I wanted to do a one 80 and then act guilty, I'd act like him.
00:50:43.980 I mean, he doesn't even pay lip service.
00:50:45.260 He attacks anybody questioning goes after all the good guys that he praised.
00:50:49.360 It sounds like he's like you said, psychologically incontinent,
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00:50:54.260 uh it is i mean did he see the grim reaper or something i don't know it's hard to argue with
00:51:00.420 that it's uh you can look at the two people they don't even look physiologically the same like his
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