00:00:27.200I wouldn't say he should resign, although I think at this point that might even be I don't want it to be Vance as the president, but that might even be necessary because the shadow that he has cast over right wing politics to me to put kind of a bow on it.
00:00:41.420He is dragging all of us to hell with him. He is the arc. We are all on it. We live and die by him in the media economy, but also in politics.
00:00:50.140He's blowing it for all of us. And I feel like the sooner that he is exiting stage right in
00:00:55.280politics, probably the better for everybody. And then maybe someone else can have some breathing
00:01:00.300room. There can be some oxygen for something else to grow that can adequately adequately combat the
00:01:05.860left because, you know, and people say, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's say it. But you got to
00:01:10.180come back next week. Promise. You're absolutely right. He is so toxic now. He needs to resign
00:01:15.180for a reset for the betterment of the country. So you're calling for President Trump to resign.
00:01:19.140Nick, go ahead. And then the point, they accused me, a Democrat, I didn't mean to interrupt.
00:01:23.620No, no, absolutely. I will definitely come on next week. But, you know, we do have to defeat
00:01:28.160the left. They are a problem. They have to be fought, but they have to be fought by the
00:01:31.660nationalist right. That's who has to win. That's who has to prevail. We cannot settle any longer
00:01:37.160for this basic conservatism. We can't settle for Israel first. You see where that got us with0.99
00:01:42.100Trump. It gets us nowhere. People say it's better than the alternative. I don't agree.
00:03:25.660I talk to internal pollsters at the White House.
00:03:27.400They say devastation, lose the House, lose the Senate.
00:03:30.720Trump has nobody to blame but himself.
00:03:32.600But then you think that'll create a springboard in 2028 to hopefully defeat the left.
00:03:36.680so much to get into. We also have the big UN events and the stuff Trump was saying there,
00:03:42.900and he's going to fight world government and AI. Looks like he's going to fight the EU's version
00:03:47.600or the Chinese version, but create his own version here. So I just wanted to pick your brain about
00:03:51.520all that. And also I asked you just yesterday in a text, pop in because here's the day we're
00:03:55.220announcing we're back at the old Infoware studios. I read you in on the backstory that we don't want
00:04:00.420them to strategically know yet, but I did want to ask your opinion of, I think this is a pretty
00:04:04.660big victory. And obviously you can't reveal the full inside baseball I gave you, but this is a
00:04:09.860big victory for populism and the First Amendment. It's a huge victory. And I think everybody
00:04:15.540recognizes that the case against you that was brought with the Sandy Hook parents was probably
00:04:20.640the most significant and consequential case of lawfare and an example of a slap lawsuit, basically
00:04:27.000for the sole and exclusive purpose of going after your free speech. And I think everybody recognizes
00:04:32.120not only that in spite of what they said about you and the pretext that they used we all knew
00:04:38.500from the very beginning that people were out to get you for a very long time they were shopping
00:04:43.280around looking for a plaintiff that could bring a case and the overriding purpose of the lawsuit
00:04:48.480they said was editorially to shut you down they wanted to shut down infowars by bringing against
00:04:54.540you this ridiculous suit and a huge judgment uh numbers that people had never even heard of so i
00:04:59.940think it's a massive victory and you gave me some of the inside baseball you gave me the debrief
00:05:03.900so we obviously can't get into all the details but I congratulate you it's very exciting and
00:05:09.800it's good actually to see the needle moving in the other direction because I know that we've
00:05:14.460been a part of this Trump movement and this right-wing thing for 10 or 11 years and it seems
00:05:19.580like all of the biggest players all the biggest figures that brought you the Trump revolution all
00:05:24.800of the biggest and best populists and patriots it seems like we're all kind of getting picked
00:05:29.660off one by one and it's everybody else that's getting rewarded. One of the things you've been
00:05:33.960talking about on your show is your allegation that government officials are aiding in pedophilia,
00:05:42.400child trafficking, and the grooming of children, right? You mean like what Jeffrey Epstein did
00:05:47.140so it's you getting shut down at info wars it's andrew tate going to jail it's clavicular now
00:06:03.520getting arrested it was me getting subpoenaed and money frozen no fly list everything like that
00:06:09.180so i think i was about to say people make fun of you and even though all these hot women i've seen
00:06:14.860them, girls you did date, Asians, whites, you name it, you have leaked it. Like, oh, you know,
00:06:19.320he's gay. And then meanwhile, I've been in defense with you. The women are just fawning0.92
00:06:22.040like sex symbol, you know, articles about you. And you've made the strategic decision. Plus,0.96
00:06:26.700you're a Christian, a Catholic. You said, listen, it's too dangerous. And my son, Rex,1.00
00:06:30.480handsome guy. I've seen some of his girlfriends, super gorgeous. And I asked him about a year ago,
00:06:34.340I said, hey, you should bring girlfriends around. He said, dad, I'm focused on fighting the tyrants.
00:06:37.820He goes, listen, every time I break up with one, they threatened to, you know, do what they just
00:06:41.800did and it's true like this is like epidemic they admit like fbi admits like 70 plus percent of rape
00:06:47.660claims are fake women just believe they can do it so you were very strategic they made a big joke
00:06:52.540about it uh oh he's scared of women but you were saying like six seven years ago no i don't want0.95
00:06:58.140these women to set me up because i guess that was already going on then women have always falsely
00:07:01.840accused men but now it is an epidemic so you were you were proven right it's true it's true and0.97
00:07:08.080they're, you know, they're looking for every chink in the armor. They're looking for every1.00
00:07:12.080way they can get you. And it's always those vulnerabilities. It's always the women. It's
00:07:16.240always the taxes or the money increasingly. And I think, unfortunately, in your case,
00:07:20.560it's even now speech. It's things like you're a public broadcaster talking about current events
00:07:25.320and topical issues. And increasingly, we have to worry about whether there's going to be reprisal
00:07:30.060or retaliation, things that are unprecedented. We've never heard of a billion dollars for
00:07:34.680defamation. It's totally absurd. So we unfortunately have to be very strategic and very calculating and
00:07:41.340smart about these things. You got to come back next week for a full hour. I'm sorry.
00:07:45.200But now now you're getting me going. Larry Loomer and others have been putting out these lists.
00:07:49.840And now the Justice Department put out a letter last week. Oh, those influencers, you better not
00:07:53.720be taking foreign money. And it's the Israel lobby pushing that when they're the foreign power.
00:07:58.180So I know I'm not taking money, foreign money. I'm sure you're not. You sell your T-shirts and
00:08:03.040ball caps like I do, but they're definitely now weaponizing. And now the Trump people are looking
00:08:08.860at coming after us. And I was warned about this from insiders a year ago, and I couldn't believe
00:08:12.780it. It's one thing to call me retarded or low IQ, but it's another thing. If Trump's really got the
00:08:17.600balls to turn the Justice Department loose on us when they're protecting all the Democrats,0.99
00:08:21.240that makes me want to vomit. It is. It's disgusting because it should be the complete
00:08:25.800opposite. They should be going after the left and they should actually be helping us. They should
00:08:29.980be looking for opportunities at the DOJ and DHS and state and anywhere else to actually help
00:08:35.120right-wingers and enhance free speech. And I think that's one of the biggest disappointments people
00:08:39.820don't talk about, actually. We talk about the war in Iran and that that should not have happened,
00:08:44.420and we talk about the maybe disappointing numbers on deportations or immigration. To me, and I think
00:08:50.220maybe you can relate to this also, my biggest disappointment is where is the solidification of
00:08:55.380free speech on the internet and in the country overall, because I think that is actually the
00:09:00.000biggest issue. We have this temporary opportunity where Elon has X and we've got these alternative
00:09:06.160platforms like Rumble and some of the other ones. I think people look at this too much like a
00:09:11.460permanent solution rather than what it is, which is a temporary beachhead, which was fought for
00:09:15.840very hard. And I think we were all expecting or maybe hoping Trump gets back into office and
00:09:21.200Maybe there's some kind of legal solution to solidify our right to have this platform access, not just on the social platforms, but even on the other digital platforms, too.
00:09:30.420And maybe even shifting gears a little bit. I know people, you know, by the way, in the Trump administration, they get banned from the United States.
00:09:37.680Now you have people being banned from A.I. I know people that are banned from Claude.
00:09:41.800I know people that are banned from Grok increasingly as A.I.
00:09:46.400becomes one of the most important tools at our disposal and a real force multiplier it's not even
00:09:51.760just the app the access to the social platforms being able to tweet post a video live stream
00:09:57.220things like that it's access to essential services and you know we've kind of seen them over time
00:10:02.840get turned off one by one first it was speech then it was banking and peer-to-peer money transfers
00:10:08.600now it's going to be these services like ai like uh the other digital services like an uber and
00:10:15.280Airbnb. And it's disappointing that the administration is not trying to reinforce or
00:10:20.660buttress those rights, especially for people like us on the right wing. And then they're going to
00:10:24.880use AI to enforce the further social bans and everything else. Exactly. It's not just that
00:10:29.600we'll be kicked out of AI. They're going to use AI to then censor with a social credit score as
00:10:34.020China does. That's very astute because you got Bill Gates and the globalist saying, put the0.73
00:10:37.560brakes on it. You've got Trump saying, oh, no, I'll have a free open one. But really, it's his
00:10:41.440counsel with immunity that's creating its own AI monopoly. And you're absolutely right. It's
00:10:46.900already happening where people are being, oh, you can't use it. We're not going to make images you
00:10:50.600want. We know who you are. Know your band. So AI is taking over, but now we're going to bar you
00:10:55.220from it. That is going to be the next big fight. So it's not just that they want to kill decentralized
00:10:59.140AI or there being millions of AIs or thousands of AIs. And of course, they can duplicate themselves
00:11:04.260where we all can look at different things. They want one big secret AI with two or three companies
00:11:09.800that give you different flavors of it, that's really the plan that's come out. And there's
00:11:13.860no differentiation for the Chinese or the EU or the Trump model. They're all just competing for0.94
00:11:19.320control of what that one AI is going to be. How do we deal with that? Well, it's very difficult
00:11:25.400because it's something that we're totally boxed out of. These companies are the biggest in the
00:11:29.620world. I mean, when Anthropic does its IPO, they might value it as a $2 trillion company. So
00:11:34.820these are the biggest, most influential companies driving the stock market. It's very
00:11:39.300sophisticated. There's only a handful of people in the world that even really get it. And what
00:11:43.500appears to be already underway is regulatory capture. And a lot of people are not talking
00:11:47.520about how you've got the effective accelerationists like OpenAI, and that's Sam Altman and Elon Musk.
00:11:54.000And then on the other side, you've got the effective altruists at Anthropic,
00:11:57.760and they take this much more almost maternal approach, bureaucratic approach. They're very
00:12:02.940liberal and extensive ties to the Democratic Party. And what is already happening is these
00:12:07.640nonprofits that are being spun up, as well as the government regulatory agencies are already being
00:12:13.220captured by the effective altruists. And now anthropics people are taking over all of the
00:12:18.980regulation and monitoring of AI. And what this does is it almost creates like a permanent0.85
00:12:24.800governance structure that will survive from one administration to the next. Right. So that whether
00:12:29.460you have a Republican or a Democrat, it's going to be the same regulators. You have an AI nanny
00:12:35.260state and then it will be able to even if you're given access to the ai if you're not doing what0.98
00:12:40.380they want politically you're given a retarded ai everything about a super intelligence as trump0.95
00:12:44.800says don't call it artificial okay super intelligence is that it's going to be all about0.92
00:12:48.760not giving the general public access to it we already know they have more advanced ais so the
00:12:53.080model is already there and you're right the whole future we're not going to stop ai is going to be
00:12:56.640about decentralized open free ai all sorts of ai and access by law to every ai there is and
00:13:03.780outlawing governments and corporations, you know, basically cloistering it and then trying to keep
00:13:08.740us from getting access to it. It's an arms race. It is. That's exactly what it is. And it's not
00:13:13.880just an arms race between, let's say, the United States and China, but it's also then an arms race
00:13:18.060between the people in the society and who's going to have access to this extremely powerful commodity
00:13:23.040and the ability to make money from it. And a lot of people have pointed out that so much of the
00:13:27.540scaremongering about these these incidents that have happened lately, the hugging face incident,
00:13:32.300And there's a couple of similar ones that happened a little bit before and then just after Hugging Face.
00:13:37.880They say, in reality, what this is is an attempt to ban all competition and basically enshrine this oligopoly or monopoly on AI by a handful of large companies.
00:13:48.480And that basically they're just going to have a license to steal.
00:13:51.500They'll have a license to print money off of this.
00:13:54.140They'll be the only ones that can sell intelligence as a commodity.
00:13:57.080And then there will be the only ones that have access to the latest frontier, most advanced models, which will give them a decisive edge over really like everybody on the planet, everybody in the country.
00:14:08.060So it is an arms race, and it's one that maybe we don't even really understand.
00:14:12.980And I wish, actually, it would have been good in this moment to have a president like Trump in power as this is happening.
00:14:20.540It's turning out this period, let's say, from 24 to 28 to be a very consequential period for AI development.
00:14:27.820It would have been nice if Trump were on top of this, but it seems like, like everything else, he's focused more on the naming of things.
00:18:05.040He really just needs to kind of be politically destroyed in a way so that a space can be opened up in 28 for something fresh and something new that might even have a chance of winning.
00:18:16.420Because I, like you, I agree to have a Democrat win the presidency in 28 is just totally unacceptable.
00:22:32.060and bringing in their new central bank digital currency.
00:22:35.800It's true. The danger cannot be overstated. The interest rates are going up, which means the payments on the debt are going up and the tax receipts are going down because the growth is down.
00:22:45.200The whole House of Cards looks like it's coming down. And I guess I would just say closing remarks, we got to get serious about the next wave of this movement in twenty twenty eight.
00:22:54.740It cannot be Vance. It's not going to be Trump. And, you know, on some level, you just wish that Trump were not as much of a force in politics.
00:23:03.540I wouldn't say he should resign, although I think at this point that might even be I don't want it to be Vance as the president, but that might even be necessary because the shadow that he has cast over right wing politics to me to put kind of a bow on it, he is dragging all of us to hell with him.
00:23:20.100He is the arc. We are all on it. We live and die by him in the media economy, but also in politics.
00:23:26.480He's blowing it for all of us. And I feel like the sooner that he is exiting stage right in politics, probably the better for everybody.
00:23:34.140And then maybe someone else can have some breathing room.
00:23:37.140There can be some oxygen for something else to grow that can adequately adequately combat the left, because, you know, and people say, hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:23:45.600say it, but you got to come back next week. Promise. You're absolutely right. He is so toxic
00:23:49.980now. He needs to resign for a reset for the betterment of the country. So you're calling
00:23:54.520for President Trump to resign. Nick, go ahead. And then the point they accused me, the Democrat
00:23:58.220didn't mean to interrupt. No, no, absolutely. I will definitely come on next week. But, you know,
00:24:03.360we do have to defeat the left. They are a problem. They have to be fought, but they have to be fought
00:24:07.680by the nationalist right. That's who has to win. That's who has to prevail. We cannot settle any
00:24:13.220longer for this basic conservatism. We can't settle for Israel first. You see where that got0.99
00:24:18.160us with Trump. It gets us nowhere. People say it's better than the alternative. I don't agree.
00:24:22.120Or Vance, who is Modi light. Exactly, exactly right. You know, it's there's no substitute for1.00
00:24:30.500absolute and total victory. It's only going to come from the right, but it has to be something
00:24:35.160other than from the tech oligarchs. And it has to be something other than the Israel lobby. It has
00:24:39.900to be a national power. And people are looking for purity in all the polls and studies and on
00:24:44.100the grassroots. I know it. People want real nationalism, real Americana, real Christendom.
00:24:49.720Now it's the only antidote. No more half measures. I agree with you overall. So, Nick, you let me know
00:24:54.860any day next week. We got a few guests scheduled. We'll move them around. You just you always like
00:24:59.580Wednesday or Thursdays. Let's do an hour. Usually do two, but now you're busy. So we did 30. I
00:25:03.700appreciate it. Come on for an hour. Hard hitting next week. Nick J. Fuentes on Rumble and on X.