00:00:00.000We have a common enemy, the deep state, the globalists that are trying to lie and use deception to turn Americans against each other, to take away our freedom and our liberty.
00:00:07.340And that's what they want. They want us turning against each other.
00:00:09.960These videos, it shocked me. I'm traveling here in Oregon, enjoying the beautiful nature you can see around me.
00:00:14.340I got in bed around midnight and I see Clavicular posting a video.
00:00:18.560Oh, Sneeko's not for peace. And he posted a video purportedly showing Sneeko calling for violence against Christians.
00:00:25.480I knew 100% that's a fabricated deepfake video AI.
00:00:30.520And the problem with that video is, one, it can actually put Sneeko's life in danger.
00:00:34.680I mean, Sneeko was attacked in New York City before when you see individuals as if they're calling against violence against the entire Christian faith, which as a Muslim we honor.
00:00:41.800There's an entire chapter in the Holy Quran titled The Chapter of Mary, speaking of the version of birth of Jesus Christ.
00:00:50.580And so and the Quran itself says you will find the closest people to you are those who say we are Christians.
00:00:55.480So when they put that video purporting to show Sneeko condoning and encouraging violence against Christians, that not only puts Sneeko's life at risk, but it undermines my life's work of uniting Muslims and Christians to stand together for American liberty against the globalists, against the deep state, against those that want to destroy the Constitution by making us fear and hate each other.
00:01:14.660Because that's how you undermine liberty. You turn the population against each other. You know this more than anyone else, Mr. Jones.
00:01:19.180And then you get people fighting and the globalists can take advantage of that to undermine our liberty.
00:01:23.600So I felt that that video was dangerous, both for Sneeko personally, but more importantly, for American liberty.
00:01:29.960The First Amendment protects satire. It protects comedy as a kind of stuff that you showed earlier.
00:01:35.860It doesn't protect lies and deception that can cause violence and harm.
00:01:40.340It's no different than going in a crowded theater and shouting fire.
00:01:44.000That is not protected by the First Amendment. One, there is no fire.
00:01:46.880two can create chaos and violence and the people engaging that can be liable so when i got in bed
00:01:51.420at midnight and i saw clavicular posting that video uh it's a deep fake ai video of sneco
00:01:56.720encouraging violence against christians right away i posted on it you know i'm a very outspoken
00:02:01.320lawyer i'm very passionate for my clients and i'm passionate for uniting muslims and christians
00:02:05.160i i commented on i said listen you know this is false i said when i saw you clavicular in orlando
00:02:10.840i said you should use your platform to promote justice and kindness and mercy not promote this
00:02:16.380not promote heedlessness and debauchery and this fake nonsense. And I'm disappointed.
00:02:22.860Right away, within a few minutes, he deleted it. And I continue then to go on and post as much as
00:02:27.360I can, wherever I can, to raise awareness against the harm of these deepfake videos. Because you
00:02:31.400really can't tell. And like you said, you've been a victim of them. We could all be victims of them.
00:02:34.700They could create deepfake videos of us inciting violence, of us condoning criminal activity. It
00:02:39.180could really destroy people's lives. So the Constitution does protect satire. It protects
00:02:43.400comedy it does not protect deep fakes and i think we all need to stand united against deep fakes
00:02:47.480because guess who can be the best user of deep fakes it could be the state itself using it to
00:02:51.640take out political opposition well listen i've already had them uh in court trials create fake
00:02:58.240transcripts of what i've said and we have to go fight the court and change it i believe it but
00:03:03.020but by then it's already made it halfway around the world real time uncensored unstoppable
00:07:26.280But I do want to have a serious debate with him.
00:07:27.900And then a couple of days ago, I started seeing all these viral meme makers and which I'm not like distancing myself from.
00:07:36.780I think it's hilarious in the First Amendment, but I don't know these people since then.
00:07:40.120I've talked to him some on X and we see his lawyer, Hassan Shibley, who is a founder and lead attorney at Muslim Legal.
00:07:49.720He's a Syrian-American immigrant and internationally recognized civil rights attorney and nonprofit consultant with over a decade of advocacy experience.
00:07:56.520Hassan Shibley, that's Hassan, S-H-I-B-L-Y, muslimlegal.com. And so I see him posting
00:08:03.520under these videos saying, legal notice, you know, you better take these down. This is defamatory.
00:08:10.400And then I said, well, I don't think this is. I think it's, you know, he's a public figure.
00:08:14.960It's all a joke. No one believes this is a real stuff that's going on. It's over the top
00:08:20.440ridiculous. And then he reached out yesterday and said, hey, there's a misunderstanding here.
00:08:25.980and I'd like to come on and explain what's going on.
00:08:28.440That's great because I've been a little too mean to Sneeko.
00:08:31.240He's been a little mean to me when he started lying,
00:08:32.860saying I was afraid to, you know, come on his show.
00:08:36.260And I think we should have this debate one-on-one
00:08:38.820and then I'll do the three-on-three and all the other stuff
00:09:19.420first of all thank you so much for having me on and really the courage you have had to call out
00:09:23.660the deep state and government overreach and the betrayal of the american people i think that's
00:09:27.880what can unite us um you know i really tremendously respect the work you have done to speak what you
00:09:32.740believe in despite what it has cost you despite the people that have turned against you and
00:09:36.260despite how it has deplatformed you what makes america great is our first amendment right
00:09:40.580to call out tyranny to call out government overreach and to speak our minds and that's
00:09:45.080actually why I as you mentioned I'm a Syrian American immigrant chose to make America home
00:09:49.440because it gives us more freedom than almost anywhere else in the world practically anywhere
00:09:53.360else in the world but we cannot take that freedom for granted we have to protect it now I want to
00:09:57.880be crystal clear and I do apologize and listen people these days they don't apologize I want
00:10:02.480to apologize if there was any misunderstanding I thought I clarified it under the tweet I have
00:10:07.220and we have absolutely no issue with satire I think it's funny I was actually jealous that I
00:10:11.380get a cameo in those videos so we have absolutely no issue with satire and i love a good sense of
00:10:15.380humor i was chuckling watching those videos our issues is with deep fake videos that are
00:10:21.060intentionally presented as real by nefarious actors with the intention of inciting violence
00:10:27.540and division through deception and lies it's tantamount to calling and none of your videos
00:10:32.660were like that i mean your videos are obviously satire obviously comedy i did post yes go ahead
00:10:37.860Go ahead, sir. Well, just to be clear, most of those videos aren't us, the popular ones.
00:10:42.040I think they're not. No, no, they had nothing to do with you. They have nothing to do with you.
00:10:45.280But I'm not afraid of the videos. I'm not like I'm like I'm not disavowing them.
00:10:48.880I just want to be clear. I don't know those folks. I didn't make those.
00:10:51.740Yeah. And our issues aren't even with those videos. And I posted a clarification said, listen, these aren't about the satire videos.
00:10:57.520But because these videos are going viral, there were some very dangerous videos presented by nefarious third parties with an intention of really fulfilling the Zionist agenda,
00:11:06.700of turning Muslims and Christians against each other.
00:11:08.920So they created these deep fake videos
00:11:34.860Yes. So so then please send me these or if Sneeko will, because I would love to be on his side on that.
00:11:41.600So so I'm going to shut up now. Tell me about the videos and what happened.
00:11:44.880Yes. In fact, that's why I was really excited to talk to you, because I feel like we're so much more aligned.
00:11:48.620We have a common enemy, the deep state, the globalists are trying to lie and use deception to turn Americans against each other, to take away our freedom and our liberty.
00:11:55.740And that's what they want. They want us turning against each other.
00:11:58.480These videos, it shocked me. I'm traveling here in Oregon, enjoying the beautiful nature you can see around me.
00:12:02.620I got in bed around midnight and I see clavicular posting a video. Oh, Sneeko's not for peace. And he posted a video purportedly showing Sneeko calling for violence against Christians. I knew 100% that's a fabricated deepfake video. AI Sneeko never said such a thing. And the problem with that video is, one, it can actually put Sneeko's life in danger.
00:12:23.100I mean, Sineko was attacked in New York City before when you see individuals as if they're calling against violence against the entire Christian faith, which as a Muslim, we honor.
00:12:30.420There's an entire chapter in the Holy Quran titled The Chapter of Mary, speaking of the version of birth of Jesus Christ.
00:12:36.420We believe he will return to earth. We honor him. We love him.
00:12:39.500So and the Quran itself says you will find the closest people to you are those who say we are Christians.
00:12:43.740So when they put that video purporting to show SNCO condoning and encouraging violence against Christians, that not only puts SNCO's life at risk, but it undermines my life's work of uniting Muslims and Christians to stand together for American liberty against the globalists, against the deep state, against those that want to destroy the Constitution by making us fear and hate each other, because that's how you undermine liberty.
00:13:04.320You turn the population against each other. You know this more than anyone else, Mr. Jones. And then you get people fighting and the globalists can take advantage of that to undermine our liberty.
00:13:11.940So I felt that that video was dangerous, both for Sneeko personally, but more importantly, for American liberty.
00:13:18.500The First Amendment protects satire. It protects comedy as a kind of stuff that you showed earlier.
00:13:24.360It doesn't protect lies and deception that can cause violence and harm.
00:13:28.860It's no different than going in a crowded theater and shouting fire.
00:13:32.620That is not protected by the First Amendment. One, there is no fire.
00:13:35.700Two, it can create chaos and violence and the people engaging that can be liable.
00:13:38.820So when I got in bed at midnight and I saw Clavicular posting that video, it's a deep fake AI video of Sneeko encouraging violence against Christians.
00:13:55.300I said, listen, you know this is false.
00:13:56.880I said, when I saw you clavicular in Orlando, I said, you should use your platform to promote justice and kindness and mercy, not promote this, not promote heedlessness and debauchery and this fake nonsense.
00:14:09.880And I'm disappointed. Right away, within a few minutes, he deleted it.
00:14:13.180And I continue then to go on and post as much as I can, wherever I can, to raise awareness against the harm of these deepfake videos, because you really can't tell.
00:14:20.580And like you said, you've been a victim of them. We could all be victims of them.
00:14:22.940They could create deepfake videos of us inciting violence, of us condoning criminal activity.
00:14:27.560It could really destroy people's lives.
00:14:29.180So the Constitution does protect satire.
00:14:33.660And I think we all need to stand united against deepfakes because guess who can be the best user of deepfakes?
00:14:38.560It could be the state itself using it to take out political opposition.
00:14:41.940Well, listen, I've already had them in court trials create fake transcripts of what I've said, and we have to go fight the court and change it.
00:15:49.040I mean, something like that, something like that.
00:15:50.500So, again, these people sell themselves out for shekels. They're furthering an agenda. Listen, this is very important. I think you'll respect this. Israel obviously had the worst PR image destruction in decades over the genocide they did in Gaza and the tens of thousands of innocent babies and children that they've killed with our money, with our tax dollars.
00:16:11.160Now they've dragged us into this conflict in Iran that's harming all Americans.
00:16:15.300So, you know, Israel hasn't had a good several year PR campaign.
00:16:20.260They look terrible. And I think they're being exposed for what they are.
00:16:23.380So they did a study. And in their study, they're trying to see how can they recover their damaged PR because the world has seen them as engaging in genocide and killing unarmed women and children and a lot of babies.
00:16:33.380And the study found that the only way that they can actually succeed in recovering the PR loss is by demonizing Muslims and Islam in America and turning Muslims and Christians against each other.
00:16:46.920So I see these campaigns against Niko and others as just an extension of that. They're spending a lot of money. There's been documentation where they're spending hundreds of millions of dollars to misrepresent Islam and Muslims, turn Christians against Muslims, therefore to gain sympathy for continued support for Israel that ultimately doesn't just harm the Muslim world, it really harms Americans.
00:17:07.620There are 10,000 more denominations of Protestantism alone, probably 20,000 different Christian sects.
00:17:14.380I can find Christians saying whatever I want.
00:17:16.820But, I mean, I have – I mean, certainly there are Islamic veins that are out there saying all sorts of stuff that have been confirmed videos to be real.
00:17:26.480But definitely a false dichotomy is created that if you are against the expansion of some of the more expansionist forms of Islam, you must defend Israel.
00:17:37.880Or when some Muslim does something wrong, that shows how Israel is the good guy.
00:17:41.420When it's Israel itself caught funding al-Qaeda, creating ISIS, and taking over Syria, which you know well.
00:17:48.160And I didn't know who you were when I first heard about it, but I did find out that you've actually exposed all that and have been trying to bring people together.
00:17:54.520and that whenever Netanyahu says, you better back our war, Al-Qaeda is going to get you.
00:18:01.540They were helping Al-Qaeda, field hospitals for Al-Qaeda.
00:18:04.340They put the head of Al-Qaeda in charge.
00:18:06.320I don't know what your view is of that now in Syria.
00:18:09.400And so I don't want to hear from Israel about their protecting us from the Muslims.
00:18:13.100When they blow these countries up and then bring the pissed off Muslims here
00:18:16.460and then the left's there to jack them all up and get them all pissed.
00:18:20.680I see the Hegelian dialectic of the Rothschilds that created Israel controlling the left and the right to try to create that division.
00:18:29.460And my point is, is that I'm just at the point where, you know, that I'm going to defend the West and Christianity.
00:18:36.660But I do get it from your perspective.
00:18:38.140And I do know that Syria had one of the best histories, was formerly Christian, of Muslims and Christians living together.
00:18:44.380And now I've seen the numbers that that's not going well.
00:18:47.580And, again, that's Israel, Turkey, and the West doing that.
00:18:49.700Do you agree with that statement or what's happening in Syria right now?
00:18:52.960Well, just real quick before jumping into Syria, I want to add that, you know,
00:18:56.240recently it's reported that Laura Loomer himself said it seems like America needs another 9-11.
00:19:00.740You know, Israel and those who support it use and support terrorism to advance their agenda.