The Alex Jones Show Live - July 10, 2026


EXCLUSIVE: Top Hollywood Writer ⧸ Producer Roger Avary Exposes Hollywood's Satanic Secrets!


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00:00:00.000 Effectively, what everyone is trying to do, the reason Hollywood is the reason sacrifices occur, the reason people are all over Hollywood doing sex magic is because they're all trying to recreate the Temple of Solomon.
00:00:13.780 They're all trying to recreate this this this ability to through manifestation and through magic to kind of create the the artifice that we know.
00:00:26.360 And that's what Israel with the third temple wants to do.
00:00:28.880 And that's what the Vatican wants to do.
00:00:30.300 It all goes back.
00:00:31.120 Yes.
00:00:31.680 It all goes back to the Tigers,
00:00:33.540 it all goes back to Egypt.
00:00:34.960 It all goes back to the mystery schools.
00:00:37.060 And it's just everywhere.
00:00:39.640 And what they don't want you to know is that you are number one.
00:00:42.940 Each one of us has the,
00:00:44.180 has the power to create what our reality is in a single thought.
00:00:48.980 You know,
00:00:49.260 it's and,
00:00:50.720 and though the various,
00:00:53.480 I mean,
00:00:53.820 Everybody's constantly obsessed with sex magic, which works, the Crowley method.
00:01:01.940 I mean, it does work, but there's other methods.
00:01:03.720 I mean, the surrendering to God and to Jesus is in itself the most purest form of freedom that there is.
00:01:13.160 Yeah, that's my method, but I've told the story, and it's 100% true, and I guess it was pedophilic.
00:01:18.420 I didn't think of it myself that way.
00:01:20.300 I thought, wow, these senior girls like me when I'm 13, but I got roped into Aleister Crowley
00:01:25.440 stuff. Sure. And I mean, look, I lived in Hollywood for the long, for a long, I lived in
00:01:31.260 Hollywood for a long time. I saw things that no human being should see. I recently saw a video of
00:01:38.300 Ricky Schroeder, who's now, I don't know, looked like he was living out in the desert somewhere
00:01:42.640 in hiding and basically saying, I am not afraid because I know that I stand with Jesus. Yeah.
00:01:48.280 Through predictive programming and revelation of the method.
00:01:51.420 They put forward these ideas of reality, and they basically, whenever anybody can even
00:01:58.500 talk to you, you know, when you're with a narcissist, they will put you down.
00:02:03.580 And by putting you down, it's almost like a spell, and it can affect you.
00:02:09.200 And when they manifest the word, I mean, you know, when we talk about what is God, it's
00:02:16.040 the word. Uh, you know, God spoke and the light came and God spoke and the waters were created
00:02:21.320 and it was good. Yeah. Well, my son is a linguist and he was recently, uh, informing me on all this
00:02:29.280 stuff. And, uh, cause he's, he's a genius and, uh, he was telling me, well, you know, the word
00:02:35.000 hallelujah is actually a, I O U it's like, it's the syllables put together. It's, uh, um, you know,
00:02:41.720 it's the vowels put together. And it's a way to, you know, to effectively that speech and
00:02:50.640 construction of language is the word. And that's how power is created. And people use
00:02:57.100 neuro-linguistic programming, especially in Hollywood and through movies. Movies are a kind
00:03:01.700 of spell. And you can do a good spell or you can do a bad spell. And you put these ideas out into
00:03:08.380 the universe and as these, uh, through, you know, through, through cinema. And as we watch movies,
00:03:13.660 we are affected by these, these ideas and people are, you know, a vast majority of the population
00:03:20.320 is very monkey see monkey do because they're asleep. Real time, uncensored, unstoppable,
00:03:27.900 alexjoneslive.com. Take a stand, share the link.
00:03:34.600 Do you want to fight? You better believe you got one.
00:03:38.380 Well, for the balance of the hour, an amazing individual, Roger Avery is our guest.
00:03:43.760 He has written so many of my favorite movies.
00:03:46.220 He has produced and directed so many of my favorite movies.
00:03:48.680 In fact, when he was on six months ago or whenever it was, I went and reviewed his IMDb
00:03:53.060 and I'm like, I love that movie.
00:03:54.680 I love that movie.
00:03:55.500 I love that movie.
00:03:56.360 I love that movie.
00:03:57.200 I play the music from that movie.
00:03:59.800 It's just absolutely crazy what a fan of I am of this guy.
00:04:03.900 And when I saw him on Rogan, I don't normally have time to watch a whole podcast.
00:04:08.100 I watched the whole thing, and then I watched it again a few weeks later.
00:04:12.440 So it's great to have him with us, and I literally click with his understandings,
00:04:18.100 and then I hear him talk about things, and a lot of times it takes me even further,
00:04:21.300 and I learn something, which is always great.
00:04:24.500 He's a Canadian-American film director, screenwriter, and producer,
00:04:27.600 best known for Academy Award-winning collaboration with Quentin Tarantino
00:04:30.400 on the screenplay for Pulp Fiction.
00:04:32.460 It's an incredible film, it never gets old,
00:04:34.060 which earned them the Oscar for Best Original Screenplay for what he did
00:04:37.560 at Avery on xavery.com, A-V-A-R-Y.
00:04:41.860 So I didn't talk to him before he came on.
00:04:43.660 I said, please come on.
00:04:44.520 Last week we asked, he came on graciously.
00:04:47.320 I kind of want to just, because I got a million questions,
00:04:49.900 see what he thinks, where he wants to go.
00:04:51.860 But I also want to get his view on the world philosophy of the bad guys
00:04:56.680 because it is vampiric.
00:04:58.220 They follow the same rules, just what we're up against.
00:05:00.520 and then just in general where he sees the world today in team humanity versus team demon or
00:05:06.640 however he would quantify that and then wherever he wants to go i kind of want because i'll talk
00:05:11.380 a lot folks i perseverate i'm kind of autistic on that and when i'm the better a guess is the
00:05:16.120 more i interrupt because i want to say you're right you're right you're right make my point
00:05:18.340 like a little kid uh but but you heard my first questions and then where do you want to go first
00:05:22.840 and obviously i got plenty of things first of all thank you for having me on again alex uh you know
00:05:28.300 I love you. I'm a big fan of your show. And when you called up any day, any day you want me on,
00:05:34.460 I'm here. I was just watching your segment on flock cameras. And I mean, of course,
00:05:42.360 it had me thinking about that immediately. I spent some time incarcerated. And when I was
00:05:49.960 in jail, I kind of, you know, you're in a tank with just like that show,
00:05:58.300 Oz and you've got a, you know, you're in a cell and you've got a bunch of other, you know, guys
00:06:05.420 in there. And then you've got the Panopticon. I heard you use the word Panopticon. And there's
00:06:12.360 a guy up there, we called it the bubble. He's up there and he's looking at a whole bunch of pie
00:06:16.300 slices, basically, that are all cell blocks. And, you know, the whole thing about incarceration
00:06:24.620 is that it's like a wine reduction of the real world.
00:06:28.820 You know, you see all the same behaviors
00:06:30.840 and everything is just becomes very apparent.
00:06:33.320 You know, race relations become really, really apparent.
00:06:39.140 The way authority handles people becomes really apparent.
00:06:44.520 And one of the things I noticed right away
00:06:48.900 was that there was a huge amount of
00:06:51.900 what they would call business going on.
00:06:54.240 I mean, you follow the politics of prison when you're there, but there's a great amount of allowance of people to kind of conduct their business and their business is absolutely against the rules.
00:07:08.040 People are passing stuff back and forth between, you know, even when your cell doors are shut and locked, they're they're using a phishing technique to send stuff back and forth from cell to cell.
00:07:18.140 Well, people are violating the rules constantly and the authority turns a blind eye to it until they don't want to.
00:07:25.860 And so when I was listening to your thing about flock cameras, it got me thinking, you know, flock cameras are just another way to turn the our free world into a prison planet.
00:07:40.500 And and this is, you know, one of the ways to do it is just to watch people constantly.
00:07:46.620 And just because they watch you doesn't mean that they don't allow a certain amount of business to occur
00:07:55.360 You know, they turn a blind eye because that's how the mechanics of the world work
00:07:59.780 You have to allow a certain amount of illegal activity
00:08:04.500 Or else, you know, you piss off the true power
00:08:08.360 Which tends to be a criminal element that is truly controlling everything from underneath the veil
00:08:16.500 and you have to allow them a certain amount of business.
00:08:19.920 And, you know, like one of the things you learn in that environment
00:08:23.200 is that you can't really trust anyone.
00:08:27.880 I mean, people side with groups
00:08:30.140 and then you learn that the guards are also siding with groups.
00:08:33.900 You know, the various deputies and guards that are looking over you,
00:08:37.900 they just want to go home at the end of the day.
00:08:39.820 They just want to live through the day.
00:08:41.740 And so they turn a blind eye.
00:08:43.040 The white guards are like aligned with the white gangs.
00:08:45.340 The Latino guards are turning a blind eye and they're aligned with the Latino gangs and the black guards are aligned with the black gangs.
00:08:53.180 And everybody's just kind of allowing a certain amount of stuff of stuff to happen.
00:08:58.660 And whenever there's any kind of crime that happens, like, for instance, when somebody gets whacked and I saw several people like, you know, one guy got hanged by his celly, you know, another guy got trounced in the yard.
00:09:13.460 And but none of that ever happens unless there's a kind of consensus occurring and it's allowed to happen.
00:09:20.740 So you have to like really you learn very quickly.
00:09:24.840 You're following the rules of the institution, but you're also following the politics of the of the various power elements inside of that environment.
00:09:35.520 Unless and if you don't, you get trounced on and you're either taught a lesson or you're taken out.
00:09:43.460 And by the way, you totally nailed it.
00:09:46.920 My dad's really smart and very learned and also street smart.
00:09:50.720 And I remember being a little kid, like nine years old, and he had books everywhere.
00:09:55.260 And he had a big stack of Sebastian Brzezinski books.
00:09:56.940 And he goes, as soon as you get big, you want to read these.
00:10:00.040 This guy is kind of the master controller right now for the establishment.
00:10:04.260 And it was the Tentatronic Air and a couple others.
00:10:07.060 And then as soon as I was like 12, 13, I read them, didn't fully understand it.
00:10:10.100 Read them again when I was like 25.
00:10:11.000 But he says, we control all the gangs and all the criminals.
00:10:14.720 The whole world's like a prison.
00:10:16.320 We have the different racial gangs.
00:10:17.640 The warden controls that.
00:10:18.780 The guards all divide and conquer.
00:10:20.580 And then they allow a certain level of criminality because then they can control the criminal networks and use the black markets to actually use that for muscle and control at every level.
00:10:30.420 And then by controlling the black markets, we also then control all the other markets.
00:10:34.420 And that's full spectrum dominance.
00:10:36.120 My dad was explaining to me as a kid.
00:10:37.560 I still remember there at the kitchen table him explaining to me on a Saturday afternoon or whatever it was, and then wanting to read those books, planting those seeds of wanting to understand and wanting to be able – because I was already – you could read them good.
00:10:48.720 He's like, you don't want to read comic books.
00:10:49.800 You want to read this.
00:10:50.760 And here's a collection of Julius Caesar's writings back to the Senate.
00:10:54.260 He threw the Battle of Gaul at me, and I literally started reading that.
00:10:57.480 And it's just – it was so addicting, and you just cut right to it there of the naivete the public needs to get how this works.
00:11:04.680 Please continue.
00:11:06.020 Well, like, I'm a movie guy, right?
00:11:08.320 Like, I'm a filmmaker and I love movies.
00:11:11.340 And so I always kind of relate things to the lessons that we can discover by a lot of smart people who are making films.
00:11:19.000 And so there's a very good film called M, directed by Fritz Lang.
00:11:25.200 You know, it was made just prior, you know, to the wars in Europe, World War II.
00:11:33.180 And he's talking about, I mean, in the movie, the actual plot of the movie is there's a pedophile who is snatching children off the street and, you know, raping and killing them.
00:11:47.920 And society is paralyzed by this.
00:11:53.360 They're unable to, society is absolutely unable to catch the guy.
00:11:59.600 It isn't until the criminals, you know, the mob essentially gets together and they're like, hey, this is ruining business.
00:12:06.960 This is ruining our business.
00:12:08.280 And so they utilize their strength as the mob because the police are completely ineffective.
00:12:15.920 Exactly.
00:12:16.520 And the elites use the mob. 0.99
00:12:17.720 They basically control to do sneaky, underhanded stuff whenever they want.
00:12:20.960 They are the mob.
00:12:21.500 They are the mob.
00:12:22.380 And, you know, the cartels are the banks.
00:12:25.240 And
00:12:26.880 I mean, at a certain point
00:12:30.340 They just, you know, take over the bank
00:12:31.980 They become the bank
00:12:32.860 And so, you know, when we're talking about
00:12:35.880 These big banks
00:12:37.200 They're just mob operations
00:12:39.500 They're extensions of a cartel
00:12:41.400 Well, I've never seen Fritz Lang's as M
00:12:43.560 I've obviously seen some of the others in Metropolis
00:12:45.300 That is so groundbreaking about the technocracy
00:12:47.320 And putting a spirit into the machine
00:12:49.660 Which they all tell us is actually the plan
00:12:51.460 But I'll watch M, is it the letter M
00:12:53.560 Or how do you spell it, because I want to pull it up
00:12:54.960 It's literally the letter M and which stands for murderer. And the I mean, what's aside from all of this, what's really fantastic about M is like, for instance, the shot that you're showing right now, it's Fritz Lang's first sound film.
00:13:10.960 so he had never made a sound movie before this it was everything was uh um you know silent films
00:13:17.040 like metropolis and uh and so he's experimenting with sound and so every single shot in the movie
00:13:25.220 like these you know it's it's all based on sound and using sound like this shot right here that
00:13:29.660 you're showing right now the backs of people's heads you can have people talking the device that
00:13:34.360 they use to catch the criminal and this shot which was is uh just a static shot of a balloon
00:13:40.460 in a power line
00:13:42.120 juxtaposed against a mother saying
00:13:44.040 Elsa! It suddenly becomes chilling.
00:13:46.720 So he's doing this kind of thing
00:13:48.300 using, and Peter Lorre,
00:13:50.020 it's his first film. And we see that
00:13:52.140 ripped off in all the making of It the Clown.
00:13:54.460 They're actually
00:13:54.880 giving an ode to it. Oh, for sure.
00:13:58.100 For sure. And any good filmmaker
00:14:00.280 stands on the shoulders of many other
00:14:02.060 filmmakers beneath them.
00:14:04.100 And it's like these are
00:14:05.840 our grandfathers, our great-grandfathers
00:14:08.500 of cinema.
00:14:09.660 And we, you know, we kind of carry on these identities as we move forward.
00:14:14.700 In fact, if you watch the films of Kubrick, Kubrick was Stanley Kubrick, 2001, Clockwork Orange.
00:14:23.320 I think he's a magnificent filmmaker.
00:14:25.560 But if you watch his films carefully, you realize, oh, he's a descendant of Fritz Lang.
00:14:30.040 He studied Fritz Lang and he studied, you know, how Fritz Lang shot a film and assembled a film.
00:14:37.720 And that's part of his vernacular that he's learned, his cinematic vernacular.
00:14:47.420 And so, but anyhow, M is a prime example of, as a sociological study of power and, you know, what power will allow.
00:15:00.500 Power will allow the murderer and the pedophile, and they'll in fact use them to create a certain amount of chaos, because as long as those elements are out there, you're focused on them.
00:15:16.220 You're not focused on what we used to call the 2%, which is now the 0.003%.
00:15:22.540 But you won't focus on authority if you're focused on the chaos that's occurring around you.
00:15:29.520 So if you have someone else that you can point to and say, oh, I'm upset with them, I'm upset with my neighbor or, you know, or any.
00:15:40.940 It's divide and conquer.
00:15:42.260 Well, I remember, and in fact, my dad said that, too, and it was in the books.
00:15:45.500 He even says we allow the pedophile groups to operate and we even control them.
00:15:50.060 And ask ChatGPT, because I remember which book it was, and I've read almost all his books.
00:15:54.880 Ask ChatGPT or the only thing it's good for, stuff like that.
00:15:57.540 which Zbigniew Brzezinski book talks about how the elites allow and control
00:16:02.440 and are basically behind all the criminal groups,
00:16:04.500 including human trafficking and pedophiles.
00:16:06.480 Because I think it's in two of his books.
00:16:08.320 And he also wrote stuff before he died in books like,
00:16:10.260 it's easier just to kill a million people now than to brainwash them.
00:16:12.640 Brainwashing doesn't work as well anymore.
00:16:14.380 And then this is the head of the Trilateral Commission,
00:16:16.540 who we later learned the head of the Trilateral Commission was Jeffrey Epstein.
00:16:21.760 I always knew he was a gopher on the board.
00:16:23.320 I didn't realize that for decades David let him go vote for him as his legate, his stand-in, and that's why he was the Rothschild representative, all that.
00:16:31.360 And then there's all these emails, and they're in there talking about divide and conquer.
00:16:35.280 And then I remember in the WikiLeaks was a bunch of emails with Hillary talking to the heads of university psychology departments saying we're losing the public.
00:16:42.380 And they come back and say the answer is turn up the divide and conquer, the chaos, the crime, and racial division, which we already knew, but there they are saying it.
00:16:51.260 and then Soros gets all the DAs and judges in
00:16:53.580 and they just let people run around and murder.
00:16:55.320 It's all right there.
00:16:57.260 They're all tools.
00:16:59.000 And these tools are becoming refined
00:17:02.240 because now we have these vast, vast data sets
00:17:07.620 that are created by these collection systems,
00:17:09.960 which they're not even asking for permission
00:17:11.980 to put these flock cameras out.
00:17:13.400 They're just popping them.
00:17:14.880 I think you even said that.
00:17:16.480 They're just putting them out there.
00:17:18.560 Actually, I encourage anybody who has a, you know, a web browser and a laptop or a computer to go check out dflock.org.
00:17:27.480 Because you can see all the locations of the Flock cameras that are surrounding you.
00:17:31.940 And, I mean, I actually use it to figure out what is my exit path from wherever I am.
00:17:38.920 You know, it's actually a pretty valuable tool.
00:17:43.580 Okay, ChatGPT is saying between the two edges is the one.
00:17:47.940 So America's role in the technotronic era, there it is.
00:17:53.700 Between two ages, that's when everything happens, right?
00:17:57.100 That's whenever there's a disruption of some kind.
00:17:58.920 And that's where we are in the fourth turning right now.
00:18:00.900 So he wrote that in the 70s, here we are.
00:18:03.700 Yeah, yeah.
00:18:04.600 Well, it's all out there.
00:18:06.160 I mean, look, people should be reading these books
00:18:09.180 and these books are becoming less and less available.
00:18:11.720 I mean, you know, people should be reading Plato's Republic
00:18:14.740 to understand, you know,
00:18:17.500 I mean, it's the foundation of Western civilization.
00:18:20.400 And it's all in there, eugenics and we need to get rid of the poor.
00:18:24.400 And I mean, you read that, it's like, oh, my God, we're living this.
00:18:28.060 Yeah, exactly.
00:18:28.900 But it also has the lesson of why be a good person?
00:18:33.840 Why do an act of good if no one is there to recognize it?
00:18:38.640 Oh, you're right.
00:18:39.300 Well, that's what he does is he shows how to be good and bad.
00:18:43.100 It's just like, here's how things work.
00:18:45.480 Yeah, yeah.
00:18:46.000 I mean, that and, of course, Machiavelli's The Prince is another excellent book to, you know, to learn about power and how the world works.
00:18:57.000 Why can't we get the public?
00:18:58.600 There seems to be a great awakening happening that they've been lied to.
00:19:01.600 But people still don't get that they can learn these foundational systems.
00:19:07.940 And just for business, even if you were a sociopath and just wanted power, they should know all this.
00:19:13.160 But so many people just act like, oh, that doesn't exist.
00:19:16.380 I don't even want to know that there's basically rules to the game and that basically it's like a 1984 where O'Brien gives him the revolutionary book of how it all works and how they're all doing and how they are really bad.
00:19:28.660 And then he goes, don't you get where the priest of power?
00:19:30.680 And we just wanted to torture you and kill you because we thought you were a cool person and we like to hurt good people.
00:19:34.720 And he goes, but that doesn't make sense.
00:19:36.160 And it's just it's it's satanic.
00:19:38.560 Let's go to that.
00:19:39.240 That was the first thing I asked. What makes them want to know how the universe works, how they could empower people, how they could be a real aristocracy that was egalitarian and on top if they are supposedly superior?
00:19:51.220 Why would you then want to purposely screw people up and dumb them down?
00:19:56.200 Well, I mean, the answer is always control. It always comes down to control.
00:20:01.860 That's what authority and power seeks to do.
00:20:06.060 And your common person, I mean, I mentioned this on Joe Rogan,
00:20:10.220 the Latin phrase, mundus volt decapi, ergo decapiatur,
00:20:15.340 which literally means the world, mundus, wants to be deceived.
00:20:23.040 You know, volt decapi, ergo decapiatur, therefore it is deceived.
00:20:27.660 So the world wants to be deceived, therefore it is deceived.
00:20:29.940 And the reason it wants to be deceived is because people don't want to believe the atrocities that are going around them.
00:20:39.260 They're too busy because they've been pushed to the edge by the mechanisms of power, which are money and debt.
00:20:48.600 I mean, they say the world is in debt, trillions of dollars.
00:20:52.820 But to who?
00:20:54.500 To what?
00:20:56.340 Does it even exist?
00:20:57.620 And the fact is, you know, money and debt and these are all mental constructs that are designed to imprison us.
00:21:05.960 And so people, because they're pushed to, you know, to just struggling to get through their day.
00:21:12.900 I mean, there was a moment in in in Great Britain, I remember, and the actor Tim Roth was telling me about it, that, you know, it actually these it doesn't matter what side it is.
00:21:27.200 But in that in that case, it was I think the Tories were in power and labor, you know, was trying to make a play to get into power.
00:21:34.340 But at the end of the day, the working man only cared about his pint, his pint at the end of the day is what is what mattered to him.
00:21:40.880 He just didn't want to have that little tiny bit of solace and luxury taken away from him.
00:21:47.160 And so it's that kind of fear that something little, something insignificant will be taken away from you, you know, will, you know, ruin your life.
00:21:57.720 Exactly. In 1984, it's all about the synthetic gin.
00:22:01.700 Never take away their gin and never take away their lottery tickets.
00:22:06.080 Yeah, exactly.
00:22:07.020 Like, just keep people, I mean, it's bread and circuses.
00:22:10.140 You were talking about Rome, and it's bread and circuses. That's how you control the population. It's not through luxuries. It's the aspiration of luxury, of course. Everybody thinks, I mean, America is built on the idea that any of us can become a billionaire.
00:22:27.500 And I, I mean, I believe that that's true because I think that there's an infinite amount of money, an infinite amount of love, an infinite amount of all these concepts that are out there.
00:22:37.100 But at the end of the day, you know, it's, it's, uh, you know, people, people are afraid to have what little they have taken away from them.
00:22:46.980 And, and so they're kept at, on the edge of the precipice and because of this, you're able to control people.
00:22:55.220 And now with the, you know, with the flat cameras and, you know, with AI and the various mechanisms of AI and the people who are in control of these gigantic data sets that are being collected, they're able to dial up and dial down.
00:23:10.460 You know, they can they can tell, you know, I won't use company names because I don't want to I don't want to single out any single company because it's it's really everybody is attempting to do this.
00:23:27.200 Exactly. I think we know who the I think we know who the companies are. They can look at these data sets and say, hey, this is a high risk person who is very vocal, who has something that that we need, something that can be taken away.
00:23:41.840 And they're they're at risk of assassination. And because they know that they're able to dial up or dial down the the metrics to allow the assassination or to hold it back.
00:23:53.440 And so they're allowed, you know, they're able to, you know, just by tweaking dials.
00:23:58.620 Exactly.
00:23:59.020 Without asking, and I'm not going to get into it, but I've told a little bit of this.
00:24:02.440 Without asking, I have a private corporation, the CIA, whoever it is, and then later military,
00:24:06.980 I love people go, oh, you know, the CIA gave me that.
00:24:08.820 They just take over the phone, pop up an image and say, here's this person, here's this thing,
00:24:12.800 or here's what this person is doing.
00:24:14.740 And then one of the times I got in the car to go look and sure as hell it was true.
00:24:18.260 And I mean, I'm just like, wow.
00:24:19.800 And they're like, well, that's, we'd like to work with you.
00:24:21.820 See, this is the magic power we'll give you.
00:24:23.660 We'll give you the ruby red slippers.
00:24:25.300 I mean, that's how crazy this is.
00:24:26.580 And it's very enticing to actually want to be, you know, given the flying boots like Icarus or whoever.
00:24:32.280 I have some experience with the agency.
00:24:34.560 And what people don't really realize is that the agency is actually a whole bunch of little fiefdoms that are oftentimes working against each other.
00:24:44.400 They're small groups of people.
00:24:45.560 And so just because you think you're dealing with one aspect of the CIA, you're not dealing.
00:24:51.480 It's all it's all fashions on target.
00:24:54.020 Man, this guy knows what he's talking about.
00:24:55.940 Roger Avery, Avery.com.
00:24:57.980 We'll be right back.
00:24:58.480 Stay with us.
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00:26:59.200 Well, Roger Avery's very gracious.
00:27:00.960 Been talking to him right now.
00:27:01.940 We only got like 25 minutes left.
00:27:03.340 He's very gracious.
00:27:04.120 I'm going to ask him in the next few weeks to come on for like an hour and a half or two-hour commercial-free podcast.
00:27:08.640 So I can just, oh, please.
00:27:11.340 because you always know every answer and more
00:27:14.160 because you've seen so much stuff.
00:27:15.880 We were talking about how the system tries to capture you
00:27:18.140 and you were bringing up John Milius,
00:27:19.600 one of the greatest writers and directors ever,
00:27:21.400 which he wasn't captured,
00:27:22.320 but I know him a little bit as well and his daughter,
00:27:24.320 which you're good friends with.
00:27:25.260 So please continue.
00:27:28.680 Oh, yeah.
00:27:30.280 During the break, we were talking about the agency
00:27:35.280 and how they creep into your life
00:27:36.940 and how you how they become how they ingratiate themselves to you.
00:27:42.120 And they start they use mechanisms to show you these are your vulnerabilities, which is kind of helpful, but it's also a threat.
00:27:50.660 Nothing ever happens in Hollywood or, you know, I mean, then Hollywood is really just a kind of extension of the government.
00:27:59.640 It's a propaganda wing, you know, of the government.
00:28:03.300 And, you know, I mean, I think so much USAID money was flowing into Hollywood.
00:28:07.800 And that's where the messaging gets kind of channeled into motion pictures and sent out there.
00:28:13.680 But, you know, you exist in any kind of system of power and like Hollywood for long enough.
00:28:20.160 And pretty soon you find that you have a handler and that there is that you're being handled in certain ways.
00:28:27.080 And as you were mentioning, they will show you, you know, information about you and your life as a kind of like, this is your vulnerability and you've got to watch out for this.
00:28:40.320 And if you're aware, you realize that, you know, they're they're they're not so subtly telling you stay in your lane.
00:28:51.000 Exactly. And after that happened and let us and then they and just like the real world,
00:28:56.320 they can dial up or dial down your, your success. And, um, uh, you know,
00:29:02.760 I mean, that, that is, uh, that, that's how it works.
00:29:07.680 That's how the system works.
00:29:08.860 Well, I sure had them turn the knob.
00:29:10.480 And no movie, no movie I ever made was not made just like, you know, uh,
00:29:15.440 the hits that I saw happening, you know, in, you know, uh, behind bars, uh,
00:29:20.920 you know, movie I ever made, you know,
00:29:23.360 got made without being sanctioned on some level by the authority.
00:29:27.500 Do you think because of you being a little bit anti-establishment,
00:29:30.100 that's why they threw you in prison?
00:29:32.500 Well, it's funny.
00:29:33.300 I'm, I'm both, you know, it's funny.
00:29:35.860 Establishment people might think that I'm anti-establishment and anti-establishment
00:29:39.500 people might think that I'm pro-establishment.
00:29:41.960 You know, I, I'm, I consider myself pro-humanity and pro-human and pro-humans.
00:29:49.380 I would say you're a maverick.
00:29:50.900 I would say you're a maverick.
00:29:51.700 And the NSA put reports out over a decade ago saying we're not worried about clips.
00:29:55.160 I'm saying it. We're not worried about criminals.
00:29:57.140 We're worried about interesting people.
00:30:00.160 Yeah, I mean, because and I am not afraid of of saying what I know and how I know it,
00:30:07.120 because, look, I've been up and I've been down.
00:30:09.980 And, you know, the worst thing that happened to me was maybe simultaneously the best thing that happened to me because it opened my eyes.
00:30:18.000 I feel like I was asleep before, you know, before it happened. And then you get a front row seat of this is how the world works. And then shortly after that, you know, once I was released, I found myself far more aware of how I was being handled and who was handling me.
00:30:43.440 And without going into details on that, you know, once you it's one of the hermetic laws, you know, there there's like seven laws of Hermes Trismegestus.
00:30:55.440 And one of the hermetic laws is you once you know your the frame that you're in, you know, you know that there there are there are there are those above you and there are those beneath you.
00:31:11.000 And where you run into trouble is when you try to exit your frame
00:31:14.860 When you try to see yourself as going above your position
00:31:18.180 Once you know your frame
00:31:20.500 You're then able to move within your frame
00:31:22.800 And that is what freedom is in this world
00:31:26.380 Knowing your lane
00:31:28.560 Knowing your lane and staying within it
00:31:32.200 And that is a kind of freedom
00:31:35.300 Also, I've never taken deals from the establishment
00:31:40.080 But I've said I disagree with a lot of you.
00:31:42.000 It's a diverse group.
00:31:43.020 And there's different, as you said, factions.
00:31:44.620 I want stability.
00:31:45.740 I'm pro-human.
00:31:47.160 There's a place in the world for good people.
00:31:48.840 I am opposing you.
00:31:50.460 But I don't want power.
00:31:52.100 And I'm not trying to maneuver above you for power.
00:31:55.640 And then they've got my MO.
00:31:56.520 They know that.
00:31:57.520 And so, and they've done some nasty stuff.
00:31:59.820 They've let bad guys try to kill me and stuff.
00:32:01.360 But that's other subgroups.
00:32:02.920 But at the same time, there's been a lot of stuff I never asked for where absolutely weird favors get done.
00:32:08.080 And then right at the last moment, this hand jerks in and saves me.
00:32:11.260 And you don't even know who it is.
00:32:12.400 I mean, it's weird.
00:32:13.500 It's it's Twilight Zone, folks.
00:32:15.960 Oh, yeah.
00:32:16.260 No, absolutely.
00:32:17.180 I mean, you know, you don't upset the the business of authority.
00:32:24.260 If you upset their business, that's the quickest way out of this reality.
00:32:30.060 And so I would like it is it's like an old fashioned nuclear power plant with thousands of dials and switches.
00:32:34.720 It isn't that I work for the system or you do.
00:32:36.900 And I've talked to some of these people. They see it as there's all these movements and like Pokemon cards they've got they're collecting.
00:32:43.820 And so we're independent. We're real. Or there's switches on the space shuttle.
00:32:47.160 And so they may need to dial this up to counter that in a Galen dialectic or a third, fourth order consequence magnitude political mathematical equation, which is more art than science.
00:32:58.360 There's a science of the art. And so they leave things out operating and they curate it as a how they want to grow it,
00:33:05.960 how they want to influence it, even though you're not controlled by them at a certain point,
00:33:09.600 they can try to hijack what you've done and move it at a certain point. So they want a diversity
00:33:13.940 of systems that they control. But more and more, they don't want a diversity. They call that the
00:33:19.420 end of history. And that's one arc of it. But there's other parts of the establishment that
00:33:23.060 say that's too dangerous, and that's stagnant. And so they're moving against it. So I think
00:33:26.580 there's a civil war within the factions. There always has been. But can you elaborate on factions?
00:33:31.040 Well, as you were just talking right now, I thought of Kanye West and how Kanye thought he was a billionaire until someone threw a switch and then he wasn't, you know, that what he thought he had was as easily taken away as it was given to him.
00:33:48.220 And so the so then what you realize is, oh, if that's how you identify yourself is by what they give you.
00:33:59.640 And that's an illusion that can be taken away at any moment.
00:34:03.640 And then you find yourself as someone who serves power.
00:34:06.540 And so what I learned and was actually, you know, a very close friend of mine who's now deceased, Stephen Bing, who was the producer of Beowulf.
00:34:18.220 He, uh, the, the night before I went into, uh, before I was, uh, uh, checked into, uh,
00:34:26.840 before I was incarcerated the very night before he, uh, as, as I, cause I, you know,
00:34:32.180 you turn yourself in after, after, um, after court, um, he took me out to dinner and he
00:34:38.240 brought with him, uh, one of his guys, he was a construction guy, uh, before he was
00:34:43.160 a producer.
00:34:43.780 And he had this guy who was sort of like a fixer who had, you know, spent a lot of time in in prison over his life.
00:34:51.720 And that guy sat me down. And the first thing he said is like, look, no one is your friend.
00:34:57.860 You may they may pretend to be your friend. You may think they're your friend, but they are not your friend.
00:35:03.440 They're trying to manipulate and control you. Secondly, secondly, be your own man.
00:35:12.720 You know, you may get your ass beaten because of it, but that only happens once. And, you know, just be your own man. And so I took that and, you know, that was the lesson I took with me into into that environment.
00:35:29.580 And I learned very quickly, you know, that, you know, that that was actually key to survival was I am not owned by anyone.
00:35:40.300 And I had grown up watching this TV show, The Prisoner, the Patrick McEwen show.
00:35:45.720 I love it.
00:35:46.440 And I realized as I was in that environment, oh, all these lessons are inside of that TV show, The Prisoner.
00:35:55.820 Patrick McCowan was famously a he was a Catholic and he he was offered to be James Bond after doing the show Secret Agent.
00:36:06.500 And he said, no, I won't do it. And the reason was because he was faithful to his wife.
00:36:12.840 He would not kiss another woman, even on camera, because it wasn't his wife.
00:36:18.240 And he this was a value that that he had that that was who he was.
00:36:24.200 and it was actually part of the character in secret agent and so he turned down uh that offer
00:36:31.100 to basically become uh well he would have been a great james bond wouldn't him and of course i've
00:36:36.780 watched the prisoner several times bought it on dvd watching it about 20 years ago i need to watch
00:36:41.140 it again i got in my garage and all those dvds well the the prisoner the prisoner is in some
00:36:45.700 ways about that because he's resigning he's basically and they want to know why are you
00:36:50.040 resigning and he's like i i'm resigning because i'm i'm i am my own man you know i am and by the
00:36:56.240 way you probably know the plot better than i've forgotten most of it but they tell you everything
00:36:59.700 i don't want to give it away but i guess i am they tell you everything in the first episode
00:37:02.680 his memory's been wiped somehow probably by him because he knows he was the head i think of the
00:37:06.500 agency so to do that he's wiping himself and saying i'm done he's obviously let them know
00:37:11.180 that they're not sure it's true so we keep saying who is number one around here i want to talk to
00:37:14.500 the boss and they go you are number two you've made yourself numbered and he still doesn't get
00:37:19.360 it because his memory's wiped that he's the boss. You know, uh, yeah, in the very, very beginning,
00:37:24.460 he's, um, he, he, he's, uh, he's resigning his position as a secret agent. He goes into his
00:37:31.180 handler, his controller. He throws down his letters of resignation. He resigns. They, they,
00:37:36.960 they immediately put X's through his picture on his like little file card and they drop it into
00:37:42.340 a file folder called resigned because there's other people who have resigned. And then he goes
00:37:47.440 to his house and he's trying to, he's packing. He's basically going to go on the run. And this
00:37:54.180 is at the top of every episode. He gets gassed. And then when he wakes up, he's in an apartment
00:37:59.540 exactly like his apartment. And he opens up the blinds, but he's not in London anymore.
00:38:06.100 He's on some weird island somewhere, which is a facsimile of the real world. It's called The
00:38:11.960 village and the village has everything that the real world has it has a bakery it has a postal
00:38:18.160 service it has telephones it has a hierarchy and wasn't it based on a real village they had
00:38:23.720 world war ii for intelligence operatives um well there was a village in world war ii um like that
00:38:29.360 they shot it in a town called port marion in but does my memory fail was his memory wiped at the
00:38:34.360 beginning of the show too or something his memory actually isn't wiped what they want to know is
00:38:38.500 why did you resign and he's like i'm not going to tell you and they're and they're they're like
00:38:43.100 they're demanding it and he's basically saying look i will not be folded filed stamped briefed
00:38:49.660 debriefed indexed or numbered that's the famous thing i am yeah i'm my own man i didn't watch the
00:38:55.580 line that they tell him all you know and they they basically they say you know they call him
00:39:01.220 number six which is just six of one half a dozen of another that's the the joke behind that's right
00:39:06.200 you are number six that's right and he's like and they say well who are you and they're like i am
00:39:10.940 the new number two there's always a new number two that comes into the village and his question is
00:39:17.020 who is number one and which is that's what he wants to know throughout the village is who is
00:39:22.240 number one and over the course of the uh the entire show they're constantly telling him you
00:39:29.740 are number six until the last episode i'm about to give it away but it kind of doesn't give it
00:39:34.920 way. The last episode is highly oblique. But in the very, very last episode, they changed the
00:39:40.820 inflection. And they say, instead of saying, you are number six, they say, you are number six.
00:39:47.720 So the reality is, he's number one. And that's the reality of the world is, we are all number
00:39:54.260 one. And that's what authority doesn't want you to know. Because, you know, you asked,
00:39:59.440 what is everybody trying to do? And, you know, why are they doing this? Why are they trying to
00:40:04.300 do it and effectively what everyone is trying to do the reason hollywood is uh the the reason
00:40:10.040 sacrifices occur the reason people are all over hollywood doing sex magic is because they're all
00:40:16.260 trying to recreate the the temple of solomon they're all trying to recreate this uh um this
00:40:23.080 this ability to through manifestation and through magic to kind of create the the artifice that we
00:40:30.960 And that's what Israel with the Third Temple wants to do, and that's what the Vatican wants to do.
00:40:35.100 It all goes back to the Tigris, Euphrates.
00:40:38.740 It all goes back to Egypt. It all goes back to the mystery schools.
00:40:42.040 And it's just everywhere.
00:40:44.700 And what they don't want you to know is that you are number one.
00:40:47.780 Each one of us has the power to create what our reality is in a single thought.
00:40:53.220 You know, it's, and though the various, I mean, everybody's constantly obsessed with sex magic because of, which works, which, you know, the Crowley method.
00:41:06.740 I mean, it does work, but there's other methods.
00:41:08.680 I mean, the surrendering to God and to Jesus is in itself the most purest form of freedom that there is.
00:41:17.800 That's my method.
00:41:18.940 That's my method.
00:41:19.820 But I've told the story, and it's 100% true.
00:41:21.840 And I guess it was pedophilic.
00:41:23.220 I didn't think of it myself that way.
00:41:25.180 I thought, wow, these senior girls like me when I'm 13.
00:41:28.000 But I got roped into Aleister Crowley stuff.
00:41:31.480 Sure.
00:41:32.200 And I mean, look, I lived in Hollywood for a long time.
00:41:37.540 I saw things that no human being should see.
00:41:41.220 I recently saw a video of Ricky Schroeder, who's now, I don't know, looked like he was living out in the desert somewhere and hiding.
00:41:48.540 And basically saying, I am not afraid because I know that I stand with Jesus.
00:41:52.660 and he basically talks about you know the tape that he saw that many of us have seen yeah i was
00:41:59.080 blessed i mean i didn't get into it i mean they were trying to recruit me so it was just it was
00:42:03.920 just sex with older girls that were trying to recruit me into it and then and it was like it
00:42:09.720 happened like with at least three girls that oh god i'm so lucky this girl's got a nice car she's
00:42:13.460 awesome she's the best girl in the school she's and then as soon as i got out of that a few years
00:42:16.960 later oh these hot college girls and then it was i was like my god it it's like in the lost boys
00:42:21.580 they go is everybody a vampire in this town and and and that was rock wall that was rock wall
00:42:25.700 texas and it was the richest county in texas then everybody is vampires and and and and i mean we
00:42:32.820 are all demons and angels simultaneously you know it it all stems from man's disobedience which is
00:42:38.040 exactly why i'm my next film is paradise lost um i mean it's a movie that i'm just now uh i finished
00:42:44.620 the script and i'm going into production on it now and uh and you're doing paradise lost wow
00:42:49.800 Yeah, I mean, and it's partly because, look, I made a choice at one point that it's much more difficult to make, I mean, look, Hollywood is, the bread and butter of Hollywood is revenge and wrath.
00:43:04.080 Like, that's what sells, traditionally.
00:43:06.680 It's way more difficult to make a movie or a TV series about forgiveness.
00:43:13.260 And, you know, Paradise Lost is an examination of man's first disobedience.
00:43:18.180 And I realized at a certain point that, and I'm doing it by, I'm using AI generative imaging to, you know, to create the film, just because I can do it at such a minor budget, at such a small budget.
00:43:33.360 I mean, I still have a crew and I still have actors and everything, but because I'm able to bring the budget so far down, I don't have to serve a master.
00:43:44.960 You know, I don't have to serve a studio master with their messaging, which tends to be more often than not serving wrath and revenge.
00:43:57.340 And I've also followed that much that you have your own AI company, and you're absolutely right.
00:44:01.240 It's like a gun or a tractor or anything.
00:44:03.560 It's what we do with it.
00:44:04.860 They don't want us to do that.
00:44:06.500 That's why they want to control it and give liability protection to the big companies and try to shut down the little ones.
00:44:10.600 what we've already done with AI and the ways we use it is very pro-human. And absolutely what we
00:44:17.260 can do to the old studio system and other systems if we jump on using it now and get ahead of them
00:44:22.600 is just incredible. And it was really just a camera with costume design and locations and
00:44:30.340 production design built into it. Like that's one way to look at it. And I look at it as just the
00:44:34.620 latest development in the long history of cinema, which has constantly had revolutions. You know,
00:44:40.680 the very first films were black and white and silent. And at a certain point, sound came along.
00:44:47.440 And in fact, when you look at the earliest of cinema, you know, the Lumiere Brothers films,
00:44:53.700 Workers Leaving the Factory, or The Train Arriving at Ceabet Station, these movies which were just
00:45:00.660 clips. They were just shooting real life. I'm sure that people in theater during those days
00:45:07.220 would look at those films and say, oh, it's slop. You know, who will ever want to go see? Yes,
00:45:12.580 it's interesting to look at, but it's, you know, it's just slop. Let's, you know, it will never
00:45:18.540 match the majesty of theater where we feel the performer and blah, blah, blah. Well, eventually
00:45:24.160 movies evolved from that. And we had silent films, which were, you know, like Metropolis and,
00:45:28.680 Fritz Lang's work that we talked about earlier, these were amazing works of art.
00:45:33.120 And then sound came along, and the silent actors were saying,
00:45:36.860 who would ever want sound when The Jazz Singer was actually the first sound film?
00:45:41.760 Who would ever really want sound?
00:45:43.540 It's a cheap trick.
00:45:45.340 We have in the movie Sunset Boulevard, Gloria Swanson has a line where she says,
00:45:50.320 we didn't need sound back then.
00:45:53.380 We had faces.
00:45:54.920 Well, that reminds me of Krugman saying in the mid-90s or whatever,
00:45:58.900 the Internet will be like the fax machine, nothing.
00:46:02.480 Yeah, probably.
00:46:05.260 Well, that's the thing.
00:46:06.020 The technology is constantly evolving.
00:46:08.000 Exactly.
00:46:08.400 Some of the globalists are like 80 years old,
00:46:09.720 so whatever weird ideas they've got about what's happening now,
00:46:12.540 they have no idea what's even going on with young people.
00:46:14.260 I know they have specialists that understand all that,
00:46:15.840 but there's real disconnects to the establishment.
00:46:18.280 I think what you're saying about you are number one, we're all number one,
00:46:20.880 when we realize it is that the globalists actually aren't in full control unless we
00:46:25.040 give the control over to them. And that control happens here. That control begins here. You are
00:46:31.960 free or imprisoned here, not the walls around you, because the entire world, this is what I learned
00:46:37.960 when I was released, is that it was just a facsimile of the real world. The real world is
00:46:43.320 as much a prison. It's just the bars are further away. The edge of the, you know, like when people
00:46:48.900 talk about the edge of the universe or the edge of our known existence on the planet. It's all
00:46:55.160 here. And the powers of manifestation and changing the reality are very simple.
00:47:02.300 In fact, in the late 1930s, there was, let me see, what was her name? Helene Hadsell,
00:47:08.360 I think was her name, who developed the SPEC technique. And SPEC is very simple. It's S-P-E-C.
00:47:14.960 it's select it, project it, expect it, collect it. And by using those, by focusing on that,
00:47:25.240 I mean, like a pitcher throwing a ball, you have to visualize that it's going to land in the
00:47:29.780 catcher's mitt. You see the ball there before you throw it. And it's the same idea with spec
00:47:36.320 technique. And by using this, you can create anything. I mean, nothing happens instantaneously
00:47:42.960 like magic you still have to go on the journey but you're visualizing your way there and the world
00:47:49.520 is really just uh i mean it's electrons you know protons uh and that's why they're trying to
00:47:55.660 program us bouncing into each other it's a giant tv screen and where it happens is here in your own
00:48:02.400 brain you can make the world whatever you want it to be and for people that don't understand this
00:48:07.000 i want you to elaborate on this i'm sure you'll go somewhere i'm saying i know what you're going
00:48:10.300 say but i want your view on this this is my experience they're programming us with all this
00:48:14.700 failure and we're victims we don't have power and demoralizing us so that we don't realize that but
00:48:18.960 also with predictive programming they're feeding us for what things they want knowing out of our
00:48:23.080 creativity we will actually build it you see the little g like the first book the bible tells us
00:48:28.220 we're not god but made the image of god and can be great creators look what we've done now making
00:48:31.760 ai you know all this stuff we really are an incredible species and if people start understanding
00:48:37.020 they can direct their destiny to a certain degree and not let others direct it, that's what the
00:48:41.740 system's really scared of, having our own dreams, not their dreams. Yeah, through predictive
00:48:47.400 programming and revelation of the method. They put forward these ideas of reality, and they
00:48:54.980 basically, whenever anybody can even talk to you, when you're with a narcissist, they will put you
00:49:01.100 down. And by putting you down, it's almost like a spell. And if you, if it can affect you and by
00:49:08.140 when they manifest the word, I mean, you know, when we talk about what, what is God, it's the
00:49:14.880 word, uh, you know, God spoke and the light came and God spoke and the waters were created and it
00:49:20.480 was good. Yeah. Well, my son is a linguist and he was recently, uh, informing me on all this stuff
00:49:28.200 and because he's he's a genius. And he was telling me, well, you know, the word hallelujah
00:49:34.120 is actually a you it's like it's the syllables put together. It's, you know, it's the vowels
00:49:41.200 put together. And it's a way to, you know, to effectively that that speech and construction
00:49:49.720 of language is is the word. And that's how power is created. And people use neurolinguistic
00:49:56.400 programming, especially in Hollywood and through movies, movies are a kind of spell. And you can do
00:50:02.500 a good spell or you can do a bad spell. And you put these ideas out into the universe and as these,
00:50:09.180 you know, through cinema. And as we watch movies, we are affected by these ideas. And people are,
00:50:16.700 you know, a vast majority of the population is very monkey see, monkey do because they're asleep.
00:50:22.640 And I don't mean that as a kind of slag on.
00:50:25.780 No, you're telling them they're asleep so they can get out of it.
00:50:28.460 Do five more minutes.
00:50:29.300 People need to wake up.
00:50:30.840 People need to wake up and, you know, and to realize these things.
00:50:34.720 And so, you know, when you go see a movie and I, you know, you think about the various movies that are out there, you know, when Spielberg made Disclosure Day, he's making that as a kind of programmatic message that he's putting out there to cast a spell, to cast an idea.
00:50:51.980 When you see Project Hail Mary, you know, it's a very different kind of, whether you like these movies or not, it's irrelevant.
00:51:01.420 Project Hail Mary is a film that's about, you know, self-sacrifice.
00:51:05.180 I liked it.
00:51:05.700 What does it mean?
00:51:06.180 Stay there, stay there.
00:51:06.840 What does it mean to self-actualize and self-sacrifice?
00:51:08.640 We got a hard break.
00:51:09.380 We need five more minutes because you read my mind.
00:51:12.220 I wanted to bring up the Disclosure movie and I wanted to bring up the Pentagon releasing all the new UFO stuff.
00:51:17.240 I wanted to get your view on that.
00:51:18.480 Five more minutes.
00:51:19.140 We really appreciate you.
00:51:21.980 Who came along for the ride
00:51:27.120 Hey, you can't come inside
00:51:32.920 Do the city of the United States
00:51:38.920 This heaven's coming on its chance
00:51:45.060 Hollywood!
00:51:46.860 Hollywood!
00:51:49.100 Babylon!
00:51:49.660 All right, we're doing a deep dive in a few weeks with Roger Avery.
00:51:53.960 If it ever comes to town, I've got to give him a studio with an amazing individual, Avery.com.
00:51:57.520 But in closing, I was going to say, five more minutes, the UFOs, all of it lined up with Spielberg's movies.
00:52:04.460 The aliens are really talking to us.
00:52:06.340 We've got a jack into them, not the Holy Spirit.
00:52:08.640 What do you think all this is about?
00:52:10.180 The Pentagon just released a whole bunch of new UFO files that are more crazier than the last ones I thought was a nothing burger.
00:52:15.240 We'll be covering this later after you're gone, obviously.
00:52:17.120 But in four minutes, how does this fit into what's happening?
00:52:21.760 Well, I personally and in a kind of very unpopular way don't necessarily believe in aliens.
00:52:28.980 What I think is these are dimensional manifestations.
00:52:33.940 These are angels and demons that are being presented to us.
00:52:36.840 But the narrative of aliens is being laid down onto us to keep us kind of in control.
00:52:43.980 And we can see this in CIA playbooks, you know, dating back to the 1950s.
00:52:49.360 They've been planning these various psyops and aliens is one of them.
00:52:55.260 And so I don't necessarily believe it.
00:52:57.480 I think that what they're talking about are beings that are already here and have been here for a very, very long time and are just getting more and more.
00:53:08.140 It's more and more difficult for them to hide.
00:53:09.940 And so they're preparing to reveal these individuals to the to the world under the guise of aliens to explain away who these individuals are, because they walk among us and they live among us.
00:53:27.580 They breed among us. And without sounding like a crazy person, there is a practical,
00:53:37.460 I think, a practical reality of who they are. And I think it dates back to Nephilim. And,
00:53:44.500 you know, the very early, I mean, all of this is kind of inexistent in historical texts,
00:53:52.180 not just the Bible, but largely in the Bible. And a lot of these books have been taken out.
00:53:58.120 But if you go back to, you know, Ezekiel, and you start seeing evidence of the Nephilim,
00:54:05.720 which are only very briefly mentioned, you know, throughout the Bible. But the Nephilim are,
00:54:15.800 they came in many, many forms. And when you look at old illuminated manuscripts,
00:54:20.220 and even historical records of...
00:54:25.740 I was about to say, the Sumerians,
00:54:27.420 all their cuneiform is all matter of fact,
00:54:30.780 and then they find it's all matter of fact
00:54:32.440 about the gods down here and breeding with us
00:54:34.340 and teaching us everything,
00:54:35.920 and then all the other cultures are saying the same thing.
00:54:38.060 It's like, no, this is serious.
00:54:40.740 Yeah, yeah, I really do believe that it's...
00:54:44.440 And so there are, you know,
00:54:46.880 people use the term lizard people, for example,
00:54:49.700 And who are they? Well, I think they've been here for a really, really long time. And they are no different than the Bellamy or the Satyrs or the foot people or all these other creatures that have been described by Herodotus back in ancient books when he was describing the world and northern Africa, which has only been a desert, a wasteland desert for a short time.
00:55:18.560 exactly and um and so these creatures are um you know have have been among us is i think what it
00:55:27.240 is and so in preparation for um for them to be able to walk in the open i i think they're laying
00:55:33.680 out these uh these and that itself is a cover story and a mask i agree people don't know you
00:55:41.020 dig anywhere in the sahara there's giant saltwater crocodiles elephants right under there
00:55:45.340 You find cannibals.
00:55:46.180 You find cannibals from ships.
00:55:49.600 You need only look at Mauritania to see the location of Atlantis.
00:55:54.360 It's in the eye of Africa.
00:55:56.160 It's the concentric circles as described by Herodotus.
00:55:59.920 Roger Avery, you are one of the most interesting people ever.
00:56:02.340 They need to replace the Dos Equis guy with you.
00:56:05.820 Let's talk soon on and off air.
00:56:07.720 We need to get together.
00:56:08.760 Ed Avery on X, Avery.com.
00:56:10.340 I salute you.
00:56:11.060 Thank you so much.
00:56:11.640 That was incredible.
00:56:12.440 Thank you, sir.
00:56:12.920 Yeah, check me out on, you know, Ed Avery.
00:56:16.080 In fact, I'm doing a...
00:56:17.720 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:56:18.420 We got Robert Barnes coming up.
00:56:20.460 All right, we had that hard break for stations,
00:56:22.560 and we're finishing up with Roger Avery,
00:56:23.920 legendary writer, filmmaker, producer.
00:56:26.520 And he was talking about a few of the things he's doing,
00:56:28.660 and then Robert Barnes is waiting in the waiting room.
00:56:30.180 We're about to go to him with all the huge developments
00:56:32.360 with the midterms, the trial he's following very closely
00:56:35.380 with some pretty damning evidence coming out
00:56:36.820 on Tyler Robinson, but then all the weird anomalies.
00:56:39.400 And we'll be talking to Robert Barnes here in just a moment.
00:56:41.260 But Roger Avery, Avery.com, at Avery on X.
00:56:44.840 You were trying to make a point when the brakes slammed into you.
00:56:48.080 Oh, yeah.
00:56:49.000 Just really quickly, I'm starting what is kind of like a film school,
00:56:52.940 though I don't really want to call it a film school.
00:56:54.800 It's basically I'm subscribers.
00:56:57.200 I'm going to be gathering together in a room and talking about cinema
00:57:00.720 from the basics to the more complex stuff,
00:57:03.860 from old-style filmmaking, traditional filmmaking,
00:57:07.540 to AI filmmaking and modern prompting and modern production techniques.
00:57:14.520 And I'll also be talking about film esoteria.
00:57:16.980 I'm going to keep it mostly to cinema.
00:57:18.660 If somebody was like, are you going to talk about conspiracies?
00:57:20.880 No, I'm not going to be so much talking about it unless it relates to movies.
00:57:25.340 And so basically I'm just creating a place where I can talk regularly about cinema to people
00:57:31.880 and give people practical knowledge that they can use moving forward in production.
00:57:38.740 Well, movies are the crossroads back and forth into everything, the looking glass.
00:57:42.720 So just keeping it to movies, that's into everything.
00:57:45.720 All right, Roger.
00:57:46.500 Well, I can't wait to do the commercial-free podcast with you.
00:57:49.660 Looking forward to it.
00:57:50.420 Thank you so much.
00:57:51.000 Have a great weekend.
00:57:52.460 You too.
00:57:52.820 Take care.
00:57:53.140 Thanks, Alex.
00:57:53.700 Thank you, sir.
00:57:54.160 That guy is really smart.
00:57:55.440 I tell you, man, I could talk to him for 10 hours on target.
00:57:59.000 Well, I bet he's got some stories.
00:58:00.240 We'll dig out of him.
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