00:01:53.760You now have them attacking the Iranians, the Suez Canal port connected to Egypt.0.99
00:02:01.320We are 152 days into this total disaster.
00:02:05.740Now we have Joe Kent, the former head of counterterrorism, who warned against all this and resigned two weeks into the war.
00:02:12.760Joining us today, massive guest with incredible sources.
00:02:15.860And then we also have another individual with incredible research and sources, Michael Young, joining us today.
00:02:25.380We're going to be going over all of this.
00:02:27.440So remember, you're the Paul Revere's.0.53
00:02:28.900The goal here is to warn the public so they know what's happening to generate enough grassroots support to Congress to have them invoke the War Powers Act.
00:02:37.140Last week, they only fell by three votes in the Senate to end this war.
00:06:12.800Riding Shotgun is my InfoWars veteran son,
00:06:17.12013 years doing broadcast with us, Rex Jones.
00:06:20.140And we have Joe Kent, former head of counterterrorism, 12-year combat vet, CIA, wife died in Syria, total expert, predicted everything coming up.
00:06:30.640We have also the number one combat journalist and former Green Beret and geopolitical expert who predicted all this with total precision, Michael Yon today.
00:06:40.860You may all know every angle of this as veteran listeners and activists and veterans and people that know more than I do, many of you.
00:06:47.760but remember we don't wake people up for osmosis magically you have to carry the ball down the
00:06:54.100field you are the Paul Revere's you are the ocean in which the truth swims you are the sky in which
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00:07:32.720it's on Rumble. It's at alexjoneslive.com. Your munitions, your ammunition in the information
00:07:39.520war to put downfield onto the enemy. Now, here's the deal. This has all been completely war-gamed.
00:07:46.860I know I've been mainly focusing on this war because it is going to kill the economy. It
00:07:51.680already has. It's already derailed the recovery. The globalists had its position for a global
00:07:55.760collapse. They were in total panic mode over Trump's recovery plan that was actually working.
00:08:00.460It got sabotaged at every level by Howard Ludnig that wrote the tariffs wrong. Even the Supreme
00:08:04.780Court said that they just written a few sections differently. It was all constitutional. Letting
00:08:10.080them bet against the very tariffs and made billions for his sons and himself. That's just
00:08:14.600one example. BlackRock is beside itself happy right now. They want everybody to go bankrupt,
00:08:19.020the general public. The globalists doubled their wealth during COVID. The planet's middle class
00:08:23.700and working class and working poor lost roughly half their wealth during COVID. That was a global
00:08:30.360reset assault of the Great Reset. They then said, now we're going to use war as the next leg of the
00:08:36.680Great Reset. This is a war against humanity. This will starve tens of millions to death. It already
00:08:41.540is, with the fertilizer being cut off out of Ukraine and out of the Middle East, which supplied
00:08:46.040about 40% globally. We're talking almost 30% of the straight over Moose alone. The dominoes are
00:08:51.740now falling. We'll be getting into that coming up as well. And the numbers, oil surging way past
00:08:57.240$100 a barrel on what's happening. The United States is running out of munitions because of
00:09:04.700the multi-front war we're fighting in this new world war. Now, if you go to Grok or Gemini or
00:09:10.720ChatGPT and say, are we in a new world war? They'll say no. No one definitive, New York Times,
00:09:16.500CNN, are listed by the computers. They're told this is definitive. The same publications that
00:09:21.080tell you two men could have a baby, there's no accident like chromosomes, are going to tell you
00:09:24.640we're not in a war and it's not a world war. They're also going to tell you we're winning
00:09:29.040the war and we're not. They're also going to tell you that they're not getting a national draft
00:09:33.000ready, even though they passed it last year and now have AI tests going on how to actually bring
00:09:38.720it in. No, that's preparation for the draft. We have the neocon leadership saying they need a
00:09:44.640national draft and Democrats saying they support a national draft as well. That's the majority of
00:09:50.300them. So no, they are getting ready for that. Europe's bringing back in the draft. This is
00:09:54.840all happening. We don't wait till CNN tells us that the sky's blue to announce that the sky's
00:10:00.760blue. We don't wait for CNN to say Alex is wearing a dark gray shirt with a Space Force space shuttle
00:10:07.220on it. No, I am. And I can make that decision. And I can make that for myself. If I look out
00:10:13.220the window and see my neighbor's house on fire, I don't need to have a degree in firefighting to
00:10:18.600know that there's 20 foot flames shooting out the windows so that's where we are ladies and
00:10:24.360gentlemen i don't need to be a pathologist uh when i've seen a car flip two or three times and
00:10:29.180bodies fly out and then i got out of the car and a person had their head half cut off with blood
00:10:33.960spraying out and then i watched their eyes go dull and die i wasn't a pathologist when i was 15 and i
00:10:38.640saw that i knew they were dead and then about five minutes later the ambulance pulled up and they
00:10:43.560and the person was dead. So that's where we are right now. We have to admit it. They want to
00:10:50.740sleepwalk us into that. That's the psyop. That's the brainwashing. All the former never Trumpers
00:10:56.280are now his darlings. He loves them because they tell him what he wants to hear. Those of us that
00:11:01.140cared and were loyal to America and to Trump, and when he originally pushed, we're the bad guys.
00:11:05.460Well, we're happy to be the bad guys because that's what we do. That's what leadership's about.
00:11:10.820doing what you know is right even when you're going to get demonized and attacked so you're
00:11:15.240the paul reveres show the live feeds now at real alex jones on x and at alexjones live.com like
00:11:20.420your future depends on it because when you get excited and you take action and you share the
00:11:24.080links and you tell everybody else you share them to share them that triggers the chain reaction
00:11:28.460and that's what we're looking for for the information you're about to hear the next three
00:11:31.880hours and 45 minutes roughly okay so let's get into it right now let's put drugs report up front
00:11:39.980center. Let's go through those three headlines right there at the top. Number one, they're
00:11:45.180almost out of weapons and the factories can't keep up. Pentagon scrambling for weapons. The
00:11:50.540war has expanded. Iran hit Egypt's main port to the Suez Canal last night. Oil exploded even more.
00:11:58.940Running out of weapons. Trump exacerbated. Let's read the Trump exacerbated article right now.
00:12:06.720This is a very important article, obviously, and it's the same thing as reported by Axios.
00:12:13.380I can tell you, Trump was already advised of this by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs,
00:12:17.820Cain, before he launched the war about 157 days ago.
00:14:55.180they know that they make a deal that always gets broken. They've said this. I'm not defending the
00:15:00.280rules. This is just what they're saying and what the facts are, okay? Whenever you say what the
00:15:05.140facts are, the neocons and their surrogates that are paid say, oh, you're siding with them. No,
00:15:09.980if they point at the sky and it's blue and I say it's blue too, that's just reality. They don't
00:15:15.380hold the cards if they make a deal because it always gets broken. So if they go ahead and push
00:15:20.120all the way to the end, keep the straight close, crash the world economy, including theirs in a0.81
00:15:23.700kamikaze operation, and then actually put pressure on Trump and attack all the other regional allies
00:15:30.400there at a point, it's who can hang on the longest in a war of attrition. Remember these0.78
00:15:36.980terms I explained, wars of attrition, tactical victories versus strategic victories. Strategic
00:15:44.520victories are a nice way of saying Pyrrhic victories. Let's pull the definition of Pyrrhic
00:15:51.500Pyrrhic victory, and that goes back to ancient war in what is Greece and Mediterranean now, and the king had a big war and ended up winning it, but in the end it destroyed his empire and it later fell apart.
00:16:08.900So it's where you win a bunch of battles, think you've won the war, but you end up failing.
00:16:14.740Pyrrhic victory is a win that comes at such a high cost that it feels like a defeat.
00:16:19.960Term means winning the battle but losing the war, bringing enormous loss, and leaving the
00:16:24.580winner in a desperate state named after King Phyrus of Iphorus, a Greek leader.
00:16:33.200In 279 BC, he beat the Roman army at the Battle of Asculum.
00:16:41.140He lost so many of his own soldiers and best officers that he started another such win would ruin him.
00:16:51.220And that's what we're talking about here.
00:16:53.880So when you hear them saying, sir, you've had strategic victories in the past, but this is not a strategic victory.
00:30:42.860we don't say all these sensational things to be sensational truth is stranger than fiction
00:30:48.980the universe is sensational upon sensational the times of israel and other publications are
00:30:54.300reporting that over 100 troops deserted at a military base in israel because the commander
00:30:59.360was conducting satanic moloch devil worship rituals there's haritz it's 100 now dozens of
00:31:07.680Society of soldiers desert base after commander takes down banners, disciplinary action, and they were reportedly doing satanic rituals that they were protesting.
00:31:19.340So there you go, ladies and gentlemen, that is coming up.
00:31:24.180This is what we're dealing with, ladies and gentlemen.0.72
00:31:27.120Now, we're going to get into the economic crises that we predicted six months before the war that the big threat would be Iran and the strait being closed.
00:31:36.420And all of that, then Mike Leon's coming up, then Joe Kemp.
00:31:41.440We've got a bunch of other news we're going to intersperse here.
00:31:43.520Huge Fauci hearings, unbelievable excerpts we haven't gotten to.
00:31:47.520So much on the AI bubble about to pop.
00:31:50.380We're going to get into that in a moment as well.
00:31:52.060We are on the cusp of global collapse by design, exposing it,
00:31:55.920getting to put enough pressure on Trump.
00:42:44.400Now, to me, this is my perception as an economist, even though it's important because every other rate, interest rate that we talk about is tied to what banks are getting money for, right?
00:43:43.820Now, the prime rate is the basis for credit cards, right?
00:43:49.740So credit cards, the average, this is why this is such a problem and why America is going into,
00:43:55.500I'm not saying going into, we are in stagflation right now.
00:43:58.920So credit cards, even if you have a plus credit, even if you have an 800 credit score and you're
00:44:05.400amazing at paying off your debt, right. And doing it on time credit cards right now, the average
00:44:12.400is 23.79%. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. That's if that's if you have good credit. So what are
00:44:19.480the banks making on that? Right. So, so they're borrowing at 3.63. They're charging 23%. They're
00:44:28.340making the difference. Right. But so it's like, well, they're just profit hungry monsters. Right.
00:44:33.080That's not necessarily the case. They charge that because at this point they're lending their own
00:44:39.940money. Right. So what what comes into the equation here? And this is an important piece of the
00:44:44.860economy, which I think these other interest rates are actually more important than the federal funds
00:44:49.480rate. So when you get a credit card from Bank of America, Bank of America is looking at, OK,
00:44:55.700What is our cost of capital? It's 3.63%. We're going to charge the client 23%. Why? Because in a bad economy, the credit card payments are the last things that people pay. They're going to pay off their house first. They're going to pay off their auto payments next because they don't want to be foreclosed on. They don't want it to be taken away.
00:45:16.420so there's late payments and there's complete defaults and there's bankruptcies and so the
00:45:21.940banks are using their actuarial tables and saying what do we need to charge to actually a make money
00:45:29.580and make a handsome profit from it by the way but b how do we make sure that the reward that we're
00:45:35.940getting is worth the risk of giving people money that might not maybe shouldn't have it like me
00:45:42.180case in point yeah so bottom bottom line they're using bottom line they're using the crisis to
00:45:47.200squeeze everybody which you see before a collapse so so because we're we have limited time want you
00:45:52.400to get to the meat potatoes here you've laid you set the table excellently what does this mean what
00:45:56.940are we set up for what are you predicting is going to happen next what should trump do versus what
00:46:01.760he's doing what is the exit ramp what do you see for the economy and then also what do you see for
00:46:06.240silver and gold. Yeah. So where I see the economy headed is rising interest rates next year,
00:46:12.880probably three or four of them, right? This is going to put even a bigger pinch on the domestic
00:46:17.520economy. This is why this conflict needs to end some way, somehow. I don't know how, right? Because
00:46:26.340we keep hearing conflicting stories all the time, but it needs to end or we get inflationary
00:46:31.280pressures and cause interest rates to go up. You think credit card payments are bad now?
00:46:35.400just wait you think mortgages banks don't want to lend out money to on a 30-year mortgage and
00:46:42.800they don't even know what's going to happen tomorrow that's why mortgage rates are over
00:46:45.840seven percent right now as high as they've been since 2003 right i mean this this is not good so
00:46:52.960kevin warsh is saying we're going to fight inflation the number one tool that they use
00:46:57.900is to raise interest rates that's why i think his interest rates are going to go up now banks
00:47:02.960Where do I think the global economy is headed? Stagflation. Look at what numbers just came out
00:47:09.800for this quarter. Economic growth, 1.5 percent. Inflation, 3.3 percent. Prices are going up faster
00:47:18.220than the economy is growing. We are in stagflation now. So technically, you need to lower interest
00:47:24.760rates to stimulate this thing. But the global economy is telling us we can't do it because
00:47:31.540we've got this war and we've got this conflict and the prices of everything are going to remain
00:47:35.780high. So what are the big banks doing? What are the central banks around the world doing?
00:47:40.680They're allocating into gold. I mean, we've talked about this numerous times, but in the first
00:47:46.440quarter of this year, something is changing right underneath our nose. Number one, first quarter of
00:47:52.740this year, the outflows of gold, the central banks slowed down their purchases. Second quarter,
00:47:58.780increased it dramatically they're buying gold hand over fist so the the the world gold council
00:48:06.740just came out with with their numbers i'm sorry bank of montreal just came out with their with
00:48:11.800their numbers china has over 30 000 tons of gold how much does america the fed have 8 500 tons
00:48:21.32030,000 tons of gold is what china has amongst official government ownership um banks um
00:48:30.480investment companies 30,000 tons so why are they doing this right so this goes back to something
00:48:36.880that you and i warned people about on the first or second show that we ever did together literally
00:48:44.020i looked back at it and this is project embridge a joint you know digital payment rails between
00:48:51.000the Bank for International Settlements and the BRICS nations to actually settle digitally,
00:48:57.200gearing up for central bank digital currency, settlement between countries in something
00:49:01.880other than the U.S. dollar. This is what Project Ambridge is about.
00:49:06.920That's why BlackRock is so happy about this war and have said they are.
00:49:10.620This is the reset they need. This could kill the dollar. It's already happening.
00:49:14.860That's why this is such an even bigger disaster, because all we have left, folks,
00:49:18.320is the dollar and our military. Trump's trying to get the jobs back. It hasn't happened quick
00:49:22.760enough. We've been explaining the globalist plan to get the world into total debt under their
00:49:26.900central bank digital currency control, literally mark of the beast. That's where we are with this
00:49:31.780war, not just losing the midterms, not just the death instruction, but positioning us for collapse
00:49:38.040and the globalists dictating the terms of our surrender. This is a big historic shift. At the
00:49:43.620end of this turning into a new system where we could have a new renaissance, instead they're
00:49:47.920going to jump the train from one tracks onto the accelerated tyranny track. Yeah, this is so big.
00:49:55.420This is a mega story, Alex, because Project Ambridge, it's not just are we going to choose
00:50:01.500between the U.S. dollar and the yen or the U.S. dollar and the euro? No, this allows for digital
00:50:06.660payments in anything other than the U.S. dollar. You could make settlements, you know, tokenized
00:50:12.640oil, tokenized gold, tokenized silver. You can settle in anything other than the U.S. dollar.
00:50:20.960This is why this is so important, right? So a Project Enbridge used for evil under central
00:50:28.220bank digital currency could be used for good in the sense of decentralized finance, the blockchain,
00:50:34.540things like Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, XRP, whatever. They use the same type of technology,
00:50:39.060Right. So so this is where the world is headed. Now, when you look at why this is so important, China having 30,000 tons of gold, Project Enbridge being ready for deployment.
00:50:50.620What do you think they want to settle in? They're saying we want gold as collateral, not the U.S. dollar.
00:50:58.680So the fact that they're ramping up their purchases, this digital money is happening right underneath our nose.
00:51:05.840they're amassing massive amounts of gold allocate into this trend which is a paradigm shifting
00:51:12.460moment for the world 100 i mean let's explain this i know the listeners are smart for those that
00:51:17.660are leftist maybe and just tuned in and let's just say aren't sophisticated on this this isn't even
00:51:22.760sophisticated this is no brainer the universities the billionaires even warren buffett the big
00:51:27.240central banks they're all predicting by next year massively increase you know gold up 30 40 percent
00:51:32.420silver, all of it. You already saw the trends, you know, six months ago. They've been artificially
00:51:36.600suppressing it. Well, they hoard it right now. They've all said and made their bet. And they're
00:51:41.080talking about the central bank digital currencies being back with a basket of oil and of gold and
00:51:45.920silver and other key commodities. This is the new plan and segueing off the dollar. And if we do
00:51:53.520lose the dollar, my God, you talk about Katie, bar the door. But regardless, we're trying to
00:51:57.960stop that, though. Trump's put in policies that are accelerating that. Individuals have to protect
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00:52:07.540call you. They need to email you. They need to get a free consultation. Pitch gold. Pitch silver
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00:52:30.380It's demystified. Dr. Elliott, you can also roll over financial interest. Tell us about that.
00:52:35.800Yeah, you can roll over 401ks, 403bs, IRAs. If it has IRA in the name, traditional Roth,
00:52:42.080simple SEP, inherited, you can actually put it into physical gold and silver.
00:52:46.660Don't buy coins. Don't buy collectibles. Don't buy commemoratives. Why? Because it's not an easy
00:52:52.760exit. It could be no liquidity on the flip side when you want to sell because the dealer has to
00:52:59.920make a market for it. They have to call client B and say, hey, we've got some stuff where you want
00:53:03.380to buy it. When you're buying bullion, what do you think the Samsungs and the Sonys and the
00:53:08.740NVIDIAs of the world are buying? They're not buying coins and melting them down. They're
00:53:12.740buying thousand ounce bullion bars. They're buying bullion. This is why this is what we sell,
00:53:16.820because there's always a market for it and it's easy when you're owning the commodity that the
00:53:23.300rest of the world needs in the form that it needs to be in. And that's why we do it that way. Now,
00:53:29.580I'm not talking about paper versions of it. It's not a certificate. It's not some kind of a proxy
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00:53:52.020you we don't need it kirk it's important to add sometimes you can't get coins at wholesale bullion
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00:59:05.860I'm your host, Alex Jones, riding shotgun.
00:59:08.280It is my veteran son, 13 years in the Info War, Rex Jones.
00:59:12.480The incredible Michael Yon, geopolitical expert, military expert, joins us.
00:59:16.280Then Joe Kent, former head of National Counterterrorism Center.
00:59:20.040On the incredible developments, we have Israel and a huge walkout
00:59:23.560a military base over Satan worship that reportedly the leadership was engaged in. They even have0.73
00:59:27.600proof. Those video clips and the walkout are coming up next segment and more. But Rex,
00:59:36.100you've been sitting there very patiently while myself and Kirk Elliott talked about the situation.
00:59:42.480Trump's got to get an off-ramp soon. The problem is Iran knows that if they make a deal, we won't
00:59:48.340stick by it. So they're going all the way here in a war of attrition. And we are now having a0.83
00:59:54.460strategic defeat, meaning a Pyrrhic victory. Rex, we called it by the book, 100% dead on.
01:00:01.060And I just can't believe that the neocons were able to convince Trump to do this.
01:00:05.880Right. I mean, our network is known for futurist predictions. And I called it,
01:00:09.320you called it at 2 a.m. in the morning when this was all happening. This is a war of choice.
01:00:12.920And this is why we're fated to lose. This is why the Iranians are fated to win,1.00
01:00:17.040Right. Because winning to them looks a lot different than it does to us for us to win.1.00
01:00:21.940We would have to take over the country, do the regime change, break it up into three pieces, install the Shah or whatever Israeli leadership needed to go down there for them to be happy.0.60
01:00:31.620That is essentially like trying to get to the moon on like a thousand dollar budget.0.75
01:00:35.540You know, we're going to build a space program, make it work.
01:00:37.980There's just not enough logistics and troops in the world for us to get that done.1.00
01:00:41.560Whereas all the Iranians have to do is keep the straight closed and not even just that.0.82
01:00:47.480Now, with the Houthis, the Yemeni people joining in, closing the ball, Babel Mendeb with the Iraqi resistance joining in, that axis of resistance is really starting to take shape and form because they realize their threshold for pain is a lot more extreme than ours is.0.80
01:01:02.600And that's kind of the nature of all of this. And to people on, I'll just say, like our side, whatever you want to say, populist right, people that are still having an issue where they're unable to break with Trump, they're unable to stop believing what he's saying. We've literally watched him say the same thing 100 times. They have no air defense. They have no military. It's obliterated. We've defeated them. OK, so why are the troops missiles? They have no missiles. Exactly. Oh, well, why? Why do we lose 43 aircraft? And then they'll just kind of gloss that over. They don't really care.
01:01:31.740people don't still or people still don't consider this to be a war dad i think that's the most
01:01:36.680almost all of the billion dollar radar which they have to have for missile defense old-fashioned
01:01:42.300radar spins folks they have total beam radar that costs over a billion dollars per unit we had two
01:01:48.500of them over there they're all blown up they had a bunch of other subgroups that are almost
01:01:52.000i believe they've blown up over 10 i believe the average cost is between 300 to 600 million dollars
01:01:59.860All right. This is what makes the Patriot and the THAAD at least somewhat semi-effective if they are operational.
01:02:05.880However, our munitions that cost between four million if it's the Patriot and 12 million if it's the THAAD are complete doo-doo rockets if they do not have the radars to make them function.
01:02:16.680And that's the reality. And that's just a fact.
01:02:18.960Let's be clear. Let's be clear. There's only six of this radar that cost over a million dollars. They blew those up.
01:02:23.980Sure, sure. I'm talking about the other advanced radar.
01:02:28.360Yeah, absolutely. But overall, more than 40 of our radars have been blown up.
01:02:32.220We're basically blind. That's why the ships won't go into the strait.
01:02:35.360Trump keeps trying to order them in the situation room.
01:02:38.380We first broke this. It's now confirmed to go into the strait to explain they can because they've got the Chinese anti-ship missiles that will defeat our different systems.
01:03:37.540Now it's hundreds of Israeli soldiers from a military base in Israel, S-D-E-T-E-I-M-A-N.
01:03:50.320I think that Sid Thiemann have walked off the base over the commanders putting up signs depicting Israel as Satan defeating its neighbors and reportedly doing satanic rituals.
01:04:03.000The IDF says the troops deserted the base, leaving behind their weapons without the approval of their superiors after the battalion commander decided to take down and destroy signs that had been put up by the soldiers.
01:04:15.780They are saying that basically the commanders were involved in satanic activities.
01:04:21.160The decorative signs had contained materials that supposedly humiliated soldiers in the unit, according to the Army.
01:04:29.200Soldiers claimed the signs were part of our company tradition.
01:04:33.060The incident is being investigated and handled by the commanders.
01:04:36.480This is an incident that is inconsistent with the values of the IDF, with what is expected of our soldiers.
01:04:41.640As the military said, infantry soldiers, the idea of a history of mass desertion over alleged unfair treatment in the military.
01:07:55.080That's why Aleister Crowley, officially for OSS, did rituals and created the V to counter the swastika.0.66
01:08:00.500The sun symbol or the swastika turning clockwise is also seen in the occult as a symbol almost as powerful or as powerful, maybe more powerful than the seal of Solomon.
01:08:15.660And anybody that actually studies mainline, you know, but I mean serious black magic, and I have read the official black magic books, the grand grimoires, all of it.
01:08:24.920You need to understand that is the seal of Solomon.
01:08:29.420And then you have the V that Crowley basically resurrected and that he said was super powerful to counter the swastika.0.77
01:09:02.260You can walk in any, you know, bazaar or mall in Kenya or in Nigeria.1.00
01:09:10.300You can walk into any place you want in the world other than Muslim countries,1.00
01:09:14.280so they're one of their credits, though they kind of hide in the back room.1.00
01:09:17.660You can walk right in, and they'll do rituals and all this stuff
01:09:19.520and tell you they're cursing people and all the rest of it.0.89
01:09:20.980You can go to Haiti and do it. Every culture does this. I'm not just singling out the Jews. I'm a fair person. But let's just say they're particularly into it, a lot of them. And that is just the reality.0.94
01:11:53.700Give us give us an assessment, Glaser.
01:11:55.020Oh, good. I spent a couple of years running around Iraq, so I'm pretty familiar with those areas.
01:12:02.340And you see the pilgrims to Karbala being bombed, allegedly by Saudi Arabia,0.97
01:12:08.960which, of course, would widen this with the Shia majority around those areas.
01:12:14.500A huge amount of people are Shia, right?0.95
01:12:17.100And so the Wahhabists who would have—this is quite fascinating.1.00
01:12:20.520You know, I've published numerous times that I would expect at some point, or let's say a high probability, that Mecca and Medina would be, let's say, attacked.1.00
01:12:32.600And Mecca and Medina, of course, are in Saudi Arabia.
01:12:36.220There's huge, obviously, pilgrimages to those every year, the Hajj and that sort of thing.
01:12:42.300But, you know, what you mentioned earlier, Alex, about, you know, basically getting everybody into a big fight, that's part of the plan.
01:12:50.080I think all these countries in the Middle East, or let's say not the Middle East, but in the Gulf states, not including Iran, but the Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, and Saudi Arabia, actually, UAE, I think that those will likely not exist when this is over, likely.0.62
01:13:10.520I think that because I think that that appears to be part of the plan, of course, with the greater Israel, that would include taking out Jordan, that would include taking out Lebanon, which is being done right now, Gaza, of course, much of Syria, most of Syria, a big, huge part of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain.
01:13:31.200Now, back to Iraq. I would not be surprised. I think I mentioned this to you to see Mosul Dam at some point be destroyed. Mosul Dam, you know, if Israel wants to take basically Israel is going supernova at this point.0.95
01:13:47.140They're clearly collapsing. The country's not doing well. It's sick.
01:13:51.820The Israelis are spreading around the world. They're going to Argentina and Guatemala and Panama and Thailand and Philippines, the United States, of course.1.00
01:14:00.180They're going to Greece. They're going all over the world. They're abandoning ship.
01:14:04.500And now we just saw – I just learned about this when I was just watching you talk about how these Israeli soldiers just abandoned their post, actually, which is pretty interesting in a time of war.
01:14:17.120But I think what we're going to see is countries such as, well, the Iranians apparently have been attacking the desalinization plants in Kuwait,
01:14:28.820which actually in the desalinization plants in Kuwait, when you attack those, you're also attacking their electrical grid because they're co-sanguinated.0.73
01:14:36.900By the way, Michael, you're skipping around, giving them all the facts, which is incredible.0.92
01:14:40.800You predicted all this months ago and weeks ago that it would pop off in Iraq next.0.69
01:14:45.620Now that's happened. That's why the Saudis are getting involved. Israel's ministers have said1.00
01:14:50.760we can blow up the Alaska Mosque and blame it on an Iranian missile to trigger a Shiite-Sunni
01:14:55.980civil war. They could also hit Mecca or Medina and trigger that. Israel's also said they want0.73
01:15:04.280a new 9-11. They didn't say they'll stage it very thinly veiled. They've also said that Iran wants
01:15:09.720to kill Trump. They could easily kill Trump and then use that to nuke Iran. I'm really concerned0.99
01:15:14.800they're going to assassinate Trump, a deep state coalition with Israel to launch a full war or do
01:15:20.160a false flag nuke in New York or off Tel Aviv, you know, say on a barge or something. They've
01:15:25.280already pre-programmed that to go to full nuclear war, cause a civil war in the region. Once it all0.89
01:15:30.020collapses, then Israel can move in, put in new governments. Their financial minister said last
01:15:34.580week, this is the ideal situation, having chaos in the U.S. in the middle of it. They don't even
01:15:38.780hide this. So give us a 35,000 foot view first. It's like a green beret. You're walking through
01:15:43.440all the pieces and where this spiraling is going, and is there any off-ramp? Because Trump, more and
01:15:49.480more, not to his credit, I'm just saying, is signaling he wants an off-ramp from my sources
01:15:54.060inside the White House, and now that's confirmed in the news. But Iran, again, knows they hold the0.89
01:15:59.200cards, so they're not going to back down. So when the immovable object comes into the unstoppable0.97
01:16:04.080force, you get an explosion. Michael Young, give us your 35,000-foot view.
01:16:07.620Right. I don't see any off ramp. I don't see that happening at all. I mean, obviously everything is possible, but I'm not seeing the actual route to an off ramp. This is not meant to have an off ramp. Actually, when did Israel mention about attacking Mecca and Medina? I didn't see that, but I've been suspecting that may happen.
01:16:28.040No, no, no, no, no. They've had Israeli ministers say we could blow up a bunch of them on TV.
01:16:33.900They've said we ought to drop a missile on Alaska, you know, where the second temple's under it, the rubble, when tide is sacked.
01:16:41.420And they said we can blow that up and trigger a Shiite-Sunni civil war.
01:16:46.020So I'm just saying, extrapolating out to Mecca and Medina and Saudi Arabia.
01:16:49.620Yeah, so that's, okay, this is, you saw the alleged attack from Saudi Arabia and the United States on the pilgrims related to Karbala today, right?
01:17:02.040Now, there's the opening, there's your entree right there to go ahead and attack Mecca and Medina and blame it on Iran, right?0.87
01:17:11.560Explain what that means, explain what that means, explain what that means, people who don't know.1.00
01:17:14.760You get some Shiites killed. Now that sets the false flag up to claim Iran hits the holy sites in in Saudi Arabia.0.75
01:17:22.560Right, exactly. So and so basically it's a, you know, sort of Catholics versus Protestants.0.56
01:17:27.260Remember, not everybody's a famous geopolitical Green Beret, 30 years, 40 years, you know, running around the planet with armies.
01:17:33.780So just you have to explain this to people. We have a smart audience, but you can really explain it.
01:17:38.040Right. So basically putting it in the Christian terms, it's basically like Catholics versus Protestants.
01:17:43.500So, you know, so you're hitting basically you would you would basically hit the Vatican and hit wherever the Protestants are all over the place.0.79
01:17:51.220But but, you know, you're basically attacking their their holiest spots to to get those to fight each other.0.74
01:17:56.940You know, like has happened before with Catholics, you go up to go up to, you know, Belfast and they still got a wall between Catholics and Protestants.0.86
01:18:04.860But it's similar with Muslims, with Sunni and Shia. Right. Basically, it's it's a direct equivalent, actually.0.94
01:18:11.300And so there's been a serious effort to get those guys fighting each other, Sunni versus Shia.0.92
01:18:18.140But this is part of a larger destruction program, right?0.90
01:18:22.540And keeping those guys—you know, there's not a single train in the Middle East, by the way, that crosses borders.0.85
01:18:29.400I mean, all their—and that was part of an old game to keep these people all separated.0.65
01:18:35.120But what I think is happening, Alex, is the depopulation that you've talked about many times, global depopulation is unfolding.
01:18:43.760And in service to that, getting rid of that energy over there, getting rid of the fertilizer capacity in those trade routes is very helpful in causing global famine, right?
01:18:56.160I think brought more broadly from that area of the world, Middle East, but shooting over to straight of Malacca, I think that's going to get closed.
01:19:03.860I think the Turkish Strait's going to get closed.
01:19:07.300You know, the Bosphorus, Dardanelles, I think you're going to see those closed, right, at some point.
01:19:12.580And Danish Strait, I think you're going to see that closed.
01:19:15.820I think you're going to end up seeing attacks on Hamburg at some point.
01:19:24.240And and so I think what we're seeing here, that attack apparently on pilgrims in Iraq today is part of that, you know, just getting the rattling the box, getting the Sunni and the Shia to really fight each other madly, which that could spread to other countries, by the way.
01:19:41.680That could spread to, of course, you know, like in Pakistan and India, this could spread all over the place.
01:19:49.280this won't be confined if you get the sunni versus shia fighting on a large scale these things could
01:19:55.520unfold in the united states of course and let me add two data points to that exactly let me add
01:20:00.920two data points of your expertise on that i want to bring rex in with his questions you had trump
01:20:04.620two weeks ago saying he may send in al-qaeda that we put in charge of syria when trump was
01:20:09.720not even president-elect it was done by biden nato with turkey and israel they put the head
01:20:14.620of al-Qaeda in there. They've exterminated more Christians and more Alawite Muslims and others.0.60
01:20:19.740He said, we may send an al-Qaeda into Lebanon. Israel says they're going to take all of Lebanon.
01:20:24.160They're going to take large parts of Syria, greater Israel. They've uncloaked. They admit0.91
01:20:27.780that mask off to stir people up. How does that tie in now that we see them activating, as you
01:20:37.320said, the al-Qaeda armies for this? And then how do the Muslims not see through this when it's so0.97
01:20:44.180transparent. I remember, you know, we exposed on 9-11 how the West was running Israel and the U.S.,0.98
01:20:48.500Al-Qaeda. Now it's all declassified, admitted. It's crazy how Lindsey Graham, it turned out
01:20:52.940through USA and the State Department, was their main funder along with John McCain while he claimed
01:20:57.320he was fighting him. I mean, so this is just nakedly out in the open. They're gearing up.
01:21:02.040It's already started a massive Muslim civil war that will then lay the way for a greater Israel.1.00
01:21:07.800This is so cold-blooded and just absolutely disgusting.1.00
01:21:14.020I mean, they're trying to foment a civil war between the Muslims in service to the Greater Israel Project, and also in service to global famines.0.89
01:21:23.780Now, I think they're going to just genocide Lebanon just the way—I mean, the Zionists are going to genocide Lebanon just the way that they've genocided Gaza.0.91
01:21:32.220And again, that's part of the Greater Israel Project.0.88
01:21:34.560They're going to end up in a fight with obviously going for Egypt and Turkey as well, which is, you know, at some point they may have bitten off.0.56
01:21:41.300There you go. There's the patch right there, the greater Israel.0.68
01:21:43.980It doesn't include the whole map, by the way.
01:21:45.980If you look down there, the new Somalia and that sort of thing, you know, near the Bab al-Mandeb, you can see that that will be another part of this.
01:21:54.280Their highest, the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, is moving people out of Somalia into the United States and Europe.0.79
01:22:01.100But, you know, you can see Egypt there as part of the Greater Israel Project.
01:22:05.900This is why I wonder what their plans—they must have put a lot of consideration into Aswan Dam.0.70
01:22:12.660Will they destroy Aswan Dam or try to collect it up?
01:22:41.760But if you if they blow up Mosul Dam, that will do significant damage to the population of Iraq.0.99
01:22:52.760And I just think they'll go for it.1.00
01:22:55.700And also, you know, keep in mind, World War I, the biggest part of World War I, you know, the huge spark that got that going was not Prince Ferdinand or the Archduke Ferdinand.0.95
01:35:01.700What you're talking about is Sykes-Picot, right?
01:35:03.560It's all these lines that Britain and the U.S. drew to, you know, decide who was going to be where and who was going to run what.0.83
01:35:08.880And essentially what we did with Saudi Arabia is we gave a certain Bedouin tribe, you know, authority over the money and the country and the property and everything there.0.94
01:35:16.760And as long as they agreed to abide by our system, everything was all good.0.99
01:35:20.060Now we're seeing that kind of fall apart.0.98
01:35:21.680We're seeing the enforcement of that old system fail from the West.0.72
01:35:25.360Michael Jan, you talk about human asthmatic or osmotic pressure a lot, right?
01:35:30.180That would be the mass migration caused by conflicts like this. I was seeing footage out of Spain this morning that was truly horrific. I guess there's a mass migrant wave coming from Morocco. Now, this may be unrelated. I don't think it's unrelated to what's happening in the Middle East as a whole. This is the type of thing at large for many countries is going to result as it's going to result as a consequence of us being involved in this conflict. What do you think of that?
01:35:55.160right i mean some were coming through suta right that's i think suta right there
01:36:00.980right i went down to suta actually with chuck holton we went to actually we went to the morocco
01:36:06.280side of it suta and malia those are two spanish cities in morocco so two spanish eu cities are
01:36:14.940actually in africa right so if you get into those cities you're actually in the eu and so we went
01:36:20.900up there to the, anyway, there's a wall around those cities, but, but, uh, and there was huge
01:36:26.220amounts of, of aliens camped outside of Suta when we went there. Fascinating. You mentioned, uh, uh,
01:36:34.060T.E. Lawrence, by the way, or, or, or, or Alex did. Yes. It's interesting. Here's the, I just
01:36:39.860happened to be, I was looking at this last night, Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence. This is a
01:36:44.280really incredible book, by the way. I was just looking at it last night and he just happened
01:36:48.320to mention it. But, you know, when you're looking at what's going on here, when we look at the
01:36:52.340Nazis that we were just talking about, the Nazis and the Zionists have been working together closely0.87
01:36:57.380for a long time. They're that tight together, right? The Nazis were trying to get Jews out of0.92
01:37:05.500Germany, and the Zionists were trying to get Jews into Israel. And so the Zionists were killing a0.87
01:37:11.240lot of Jews there, and a lot of Zionists actually are Jews, obviously. But so the Zionists and0.87
01:37:18.040Jews who are not Zionists have been killing each other for more than a century. And this is well1.00
01:37:24.320documented. I've got a book here somewhere I added out a couple of days ago. But it's about how the
01:37:30.080Zionists and the Nazis cooperated, right? Actually, this book is written by a Jewish author. But the
01:37:35.980The fact is, a lot of the Zionists and the Nazis moved down to Argentina, where they're at now.
01:37:42.280In fact, I was doing these meetings every once a week for a while when we were down there,
01:37:48.900and they were in the old Nazi embassy, and this is a bunch of Jewish guys going to the meeting.
01:37:59.080But, you know, it's clear that the Zionists down in Argentina are working to gin up a war with Brazil, and that's in service to the larger war, the same war that we keep talking about in the Middle East.0.87
01:38:25.040I see this all as already a world war.
01:38:28.440There are people that deny it's even a regional war. They'll call it a conflict. They'll say, you know, it's what has Trump said? It's a detour. You know, we got to take a detour. It's an excursion. Obviously, we're talking about not just our lack of munitions now have expended nearly all of our defense and a lot of our offensive capability, but also just the cost of American lives.
01:38:46.200You know, I I've heard this argument from a few people. They say, well, you know, we lose more American soldiers in training exercises and accidents.
01:38:53.600We've only lost 18 men and women in this conflict so far. Michael Yan, you're a combat veteran military man. What do you say to that?
01:39:03.220Well, this is just the beginning. I think we're going to see a draft and I think they're going to work to kill off our people and and then draft people into our military that will be able to do genocide.0.90
01:39:16.200at home. That's clearly the direction that this is going. This is much more than, you know, a few0.82
01:39:22.780little firefights or missiles going back and forth. This is a massive war. And like your father said,
01:39:29.700Alex, this is like a herpes outbreak. It's part of the same old war, but it's a, I call them
01:39:36.320inflection points, but I might start calling them herpes outbreaks. But I mean, but they're, you
01:39:41.360know, it can be quite significant, though. And in this case, I'm guessing they'll end up being
01:39:46.560billions dead from famines and whatnot. When the famines really start, we can see we're heading
01:39:54.100that direction. If and when they start, the so-called migration, the weaponized migration,
01:40:01.220the human osmotic pressure, that push and the pull of migration will be intense, right? So places
01:40:07.180like Suta and Melilla, well, they'll just be overran, and Spain is being overrun now.0.89
01:40:12.160Of course, you know, the Zionists hate Spain, and they're very open about hating, you know,0.93
01:40:17.840Ireland and some of the other places, and they threaten them often with doing exactly what's0.97
01:40:22.860doing. They invade them with so-called migrants to, you know, Camp of the Saints style, actually1.00
01:40:29.380destroy all of Europe and the United States. Keep in mind, the Israelis are helping people invade1.00
01:40:35.940the United States and they openly do this highest Hebrew immigrant aid society brings in huge numbers0.95
01:40:43.260they've got a office down in Darien Gap they've got a building right next to China camp I mean
01:40:48.740I've been there many times like like a hundred I mean it's all the time and uh and you know took
01:40:55.780Congress I took Congressman down I took Laura Loomer down there actually Laura Loomer was at
01:41:00.400highest building right she was actually there and uh and actually she talked I have video of
01:41:05.760laura talking with an iranian and it's on video i published it before several times and van der
01:41:11.940steel was there i i made video she was talking with an iranian that highest was helping that
01:41:17.880iranian get to the united states and that guy looked as i mean he looked like he's a serious
01:41:23.020guy you should see the video i can send it to you but yeah and so uh you know highest is helping0.52
01:41:29.380iranians invade the united states not just iranians they're helping chinese they're helping
01:41:33.300Bangladeshis and people from about 150 countries. Because it's about the collapse of the West. It's0.96
01:41:38.960about importing whatever third world population, various populations. The goal is not to have1.00
01:41:43.860something homogenous. It's to have as many different factions and groups as possible to
01:41:48.080cause chaos. I think this is very obvious, but never for them. Never for them. They don't have
01:41:52.400to take any migrants. They don't have to deal with the Palestinians and give them a state.0.98
01:41:56.840They just say, hey, we're going to kill them all, genocide them all, and then you're going to take1.00
01:42:00.320the refugees. I think this is quite shocking language as well. I hear this all the time0.99
01:42:04.860from people over there. Somehow it's our responsibility, and I would say it is because
01:42:09.040we help kill the people over there. Michael, what do you think about just the expansion of the war?0.98
01:42:13.860Saudi Arabia joins the U.S. in strikes on Iran-backed militias in Iraq. I'm sure you saw
01:42:19.000this story. What's your take on what's happening there? That's in service to getting the big war
01:42:25.420going between sunni and shia right keep in mind that can be global that can unfold uh you know
01:42:30.880when the united states formed a lot of you know the battles that we were having in the united
01:42:35.700states were you know imported right they were imported from europe that was part of a world
01:42:40.360war i mean our revolution was actually part of a larger world war again we we have two north two
01:42:47.380wars that we call world wars but uh but there's been many many wars that were actually i mean the
01:42:54.000whole thing is it's not these inflection points, let's say they're components of a global war
01:43:00.100that's been going on for 500 years, a good 400 years, certainly since, you know, roughly around
01:43:07.6601500. You know, the Treaty of Tordesillas that the that the pope brokered between Spain and
01:43:14.840Portugal in 1494, that was, you might say, the beginning of maritime world war, right,
01:43:22.900where it was really starting to get big, where the Pope divided the world into two between.0.82
01:43:43.060So that's why the Japanese ended up down in Nagasaki and they brought in their craziness1.00
01:43:47.640and the Japanese chopped them up with swords and said, get out of here.1.00
01:43:50.260But they let the but they let the they call them non bond, southern barbarians.
01:43:55.580But then later, that's what the Japanese called the Portuguese.
01:43:57.920But then later, the Dutch came and did not push religion.
01:44:01.460They just did trade and they were allowed to stay.0.92
01:44:03.740But anyway, but that's part of the same war is what I'm getting to do.
01:44:06.760There's no difference in these century after century.
01:44:11.140It's just there are inflection points and the part the party sometimes change.
01:44:16.400Like the Dutch East India Company is no longer a major player.
01:44:19.260The British East India Company is no longer a major player.
01:44:22.460Right. Things evolve and mature. Things evolve and mature over time.
01:44:27.180Right. So different different crabs go into the hermit crab shells, right?
01:44:31.880Yeah, 100 percent. OK, so like what's the U.S. military's next goal objective with the gradual or gradual expansion of the regional war?
01:44:39.800Like, what do you see the next, you know, two to four weeks as being?
01:44:42.560Are we going to see more of a stalemate, more of the tit for tat?
01:44:45.080Cause we're kind of ending like the second phase of the conflict, the first phase, the initial 39 days of the war, like the full kinetic engagement, the full wrath of America, whatever you want to say. Then we enter into this kind of MOU era where, uh, six weeks ago, uncle Trump, Trump comes out at the G seven and says, we're almost out of oil. We can't do this. We got to figure something out. And then all, uh, the treaty of Versailles, he ends up signing the MOU. Right. And that didn't end up panning out.
01:45:12.120We've kind of returned to the tit for tat. Now we see that expanding with the strikes that Saudi Arabia is joining us in doing on Iran-backed militias in Iraq.
01:45:20.540And they say that's in response to Yemen's Houthis helping the Iraqi-backed militias.
01:45:31.680The, you know, as you and Alex were talking, your father were talking about earlier, our eyes have been taken out over there with the radars, right?
01:45:39.440You mentioned the cost of some of those radars, and they're gone.
01:45:43.960And so, you know, they have to put AWACS and other assets up there to even get an idea of what's going on.
01:45:51.780But our bases have been pushed back, you know, like headquarters of Bahrain has been destroyed.
01:45:57.400You know, Fifth Fleet, I've been in that headquarters, actually.
01:46:01.220The Secretary of Defense picked me up in Afghanistan and brought me over there,
01:46:04.620introduced me to the Admiral in charge, Admiral Gorton.
01:46:36.600And denying that on our side is incredibly dishonest. And that's the main thing that grinds my gears about the conflict. They literally told us on day one what this was about before day one. This has been Netanyahu's plan for 35 plus years. And the denial of, oh, now it's just we're going to control the straight. We're going to charge a fee so they don't charge a fee. It's better when we do it. We're ultimately not going to be able to implement any of that unless we take the country over.
01:47:00.580My thing is, how does that happen? Because everything I hear from the various geopolitical experts, including yourself, is that the military is depleted.
01:47:07.980The munitions are depleted. The bases are destroyed. The radar is out of commission.
01:47:12.260What does America do if Trump does decide, which it looks like he has, in my opinion, to stay involved in the conflict?
01:47:18.700Because we can say like it's all falling apart, but can it all fall apart forever?
01:47:23.300Can this happen for a whole nother year? What's the timeline there?
01:48:54.160There is a clear push to keep in mind that the war has so many aspects to it.
01:49:00.820For instance, knocking the farmers off of their farms, fishermen out of their boats, screw worms coming back, Nord Stream blown up, groaning and closed, groaning and gas field, the biggest gas field in Europe, right?
01:49:12.200And so many things, there's so many components to this, fertilizer plants burning down.
01:49:19.320That's the key, because why would the EU be spoiling for a war when they've destroyed their own domestic energy and manufacturing capability?
01:50:07.500I had bought an iPad just to track Nord Stream flows, and it was just a dedicated iPad because
01:50:13.600it was a website that showed how many cubic meters per second we're going through.
01:50:17.180So Nord Stream is, Groeningen is closed.
01:50:19.880That's, you know, and when you add all these things, they're putting these ridiculous windmills
01:50:23.980all over the place, right, which is all part of the fight, taking farmers off their farms.
01:50:29.520In Netherlands, they use the excuse of nitrogen.
01:50:33.260They're saying there's too much nitrogen, but you just cross the border over to Germany
01:50:37.000because, you know, Netherlands and Germany share a border and you go into Germany and they don't talk about nitrogen anymore.
01:50:42.620They talk about carbon dioxide. You should see those windmills over in Netherlands.
01:50:46.680They're unbelievable, especially the ones that are out in the North Sea.
01:50:49.500Now, keep in mind, speaking of North Sea, eventually there'll be a big fight over the North Sea.
01:50:54.240I'm not sure how that'll play out. But the North Sea, when it comes to routes and resources, the North Sea is, you know, it's a king daddy.
01:51:02.120Right. There's been a lot of war over the North Seas in the past, and it's almost a sure bet that there'll eventually be wars up there again.
01:51:12.200And again, that would include Russia, obviously, and others.
01:55:44.000We are now being joined by the eighth director of the National Counterterrorism Center, a combat veteran, special forces operator and all around man's man.
01:55:54.580Joe Kent joins me here for the third hour. I want to get right into it. The updates on the war. It's July 30th, 2026. The Middle East continues to be on fire.
01:56:03.680Since the last time we talked, Joe, we've lost four additional American service members that we know about.0.96
01:56:09.200Their names, Tyler, Sarah, Angel, and Michael, all now deceased in a war of choice, ultimately manufactured by another country.
01:56:18.800Unfortunately, we're not in a good position at all.
01:56:21.460I would say even worse than the last time that we spoke.
01:56:24.100Like you said, we tragically lost some soldiers.
01:56:27.140We did our round of retaliation strikes that lasted for quite some time.0.98
01:56:30.880There was back and forth between us and the Iranians.0.89
01:56:33.680And then we attempted this, I think, sort of an effort to have a ceasefire so we could get more space for the negotiations.
01:56:40.720But the Iranians basically said that they're not playing that, and they just restarted the hostilities by launching some cruise missiles back at one of our bases in Jordan.
01:56:48.340Since then, we did retaliatory strikes against one of the Iranian-backed militias inside Iraq.
01:56:54.760But there's some technical issues we can get into there.
01:56:57.900That is part of the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces.
01:57:28.920I mean, President Trump has very limited options, unfortunately.
01:57:31.460His best hand still remains just to, I would say, to walk away from this whole thing and do the best he can here domestically to declare victory.0.93
01:57:39.120But he's not doing that, and I fear that he's not doing that, and I fear that he is going to escalate this because now that the Iranians have hit us once more, the Iranians aren't giving him what he needs.0.72
01:57:49.000President Trump feels like he needs a piece of paper, some kind of a formal agreement that says Iran's going to give him something so that he can say that he got a deal.0.66
01:57:57.620I think the Iranians are aware of this, and they are not going to give him a deal.0.55
01:58:02.420So right now, Iran has the upper hand, and whether or not Iran chooses to kind of go for broke and to try and get us sucked into a larger conflict, or they just keep us strangled economically, that's kind of where things stand right now.0.90
01:58:56.900Again, like I said, I wish we had a silver lining that we could put on this.
01:59:00.400Just unfortunately, we're just in a really in a bad position.
01:59:03.160I hope President Trump and I pray for him to get some clarity in all this and just realize that he's getting bad advice from a lot of the people who encouraged him to get into this war.
01:59:10.740He tunes them out and he just says, hey, I'm going to come home when I bring that bring the troops home.
01:59:14.460I think he should look at the long arc of history. We've gotten out of other wars and temporarily it's been bad for presidents. But in the long run, when we got out of the wars, it ended up being the right thing to do for a president. So I think if any president could sell this, it could potentially be President Trump. Unfortunately, I just have not seen him behave in a way that makes any sense to me recently. So I do fear that we're going to continue this escalation cycle.
01:59:37.900Yeah, the question for me today is like, how are we going to acknowledge the reality? When is reality going to come knocking on the door? Because everything we talked about, we've talked about for weeks, months at this point. A lot of people have all the geopolitical analysts have. We're running low on munitions. The bases are heavily destroyed. The radars are out of commission. We've had a number of destroyed aircraft. I think the number is over 40 that have been taken out of commission.
02:00:02.440If we're going to stay in kind of the second phase of the war, and I define the first phase of the war as the 39 days of hell, the unleashing of the American military, the bombings over and over and over again, this second phase, this tit for tat, Joe, in your experience or just what does your experience tell you about how much longer we can eke out this tit for tat thing before Trump either has to make major decision, ground invasion, whatever that would mean, perhaps further strikes or does he back off?
02:00:32.640I think he's going to have to make a decision here pretty quickly.
02:00:35.180We even heard President Trump say this himself when the MOU first came out and President Trump was justifying why he was going to give the MOU a chance.
02:00:43.920He said, hey, we were about four weeks away from economic bedlam.
02:00:48.640And so basically the predictions by a lot of the different oil experts say that we're going to hit a major crisis, not just here in the States, but globally in terms of not just oil, not just gas, but things like fertilizer production, et cetera.
02:01:00.780you know, here by the end of the summer, fall, winter timeframe. So he doesn't have that long,
02:01:06.000especially with the tight shot clock of the midterms approaching. So time is not on President
02:01:11.440Trump's side. The Iranians know that. And so for the Iranians to continue to do what they're doing
02:01:16.260right now, it's very advantageous for them. And so I think that they are more than content to sit1.00
02:01:21.780back and say, there's no way we're going to give President Trump the deal that he wants. He killed
02:01:25.560our Supreme Leader. He brought all this upon us. We have to basically for the sake of deterrence,
02:01:30.140but then also for vengeance, we have to bloody his nose.
02:01:33.220And I think the debate within Iran is how do they bloody his nose?
02:02:04.100I don't know if they're accurate or not, but this sounds right to me that the Pentagon is saying, hey, boss, we can do another 10 to 15 days of heavy bombing, and that will take out all of Iran's missile capabilities.0.64
02:02:14.600I just – I really hope he doesn't even entertain that at this point because the Iranians have shown that they have a very durable system that has been dispersed that's hard for us to vector in on.0.71
02:02:24.640So where would we be in the next 10 to 14 days?
02:02:27.700I think that's how you end up with something like a ground incursion, because President Trump's just going to get frustrated with the lack of results from this air campaign.
02:02:35.480And then I think, you know, at a bad moment where he's mad and wants to get something done, he signs off on some sort of a ground invasion of either one of the islands or, you know, Vandera Boss, the port there that we've been kind of doing some shaping operations around through our air campaign.
02:02:49.760That's that's truly what what I fear, because his options are just really limited right now.
02:02:54.200The idea that he's going to be able to, you know, choke them off economically.0.77
02:02:58.600You know, I saw a lot of like happy, you know, happy talk about how the economic warfare that we're waging against Iran.0.91
02:03:05.060You know, that's going to be the final nail in the coffin.0.77
02:03:07.180It's like, look, these guys have been under some form of heavy sanction since 1979.
02:03:11.420There's not much more that we can do to them.
02:03:13.180And as a matter of fact, the dollar is even weaker because of everything we did in Ukraine.
02:03:16.060And there's just all these alternative workarounds for them to sell their oil on the market right now.0.91
02:03:21.420So, again, the Iranians know they have time on their side.
02:03:24.780And I think they know that they have more options than we do, regardless of how we want to beat our chest here in America.
02:03:30.220Right. I just think the West has made too many key assumptions, they would say, in intelligence gathering.
02:03:41.480And the reality is, I think it's demonstrated our intelligence on the ground has not been good enough.
02:03:46.060It really hasn't been because they've had the ability to continue the missile strikes, the drone strikes.
02:03:50.860Trump can say it's obliterated, it's gone, but there's a reality that our ships are parked very far off the coast in the blockade because if we got any closer, they'd be under severe threat.
02:04:00.560Now, there can be a debate where those are Chinese anti-ship missiles, where the Iranians might have those.
02:04:05.240The reality is they have a wind condition called the Strait of Hormuz.0.97
02:04:09.400We don't really have a wind condition besides taking over their country.
02:04:12.540And I think it's key. You mentioned earlier, our key allies, our strongest allies, Zelensky and Netanyahu visiting for the state funeral of Lindsey Graham.
02:04:22.880I guess he was literally in the rotunda. And while they're there, Netanyahu makes a statement or a reporter asks him, are there any cracks in the relationship between you and Trump?
02:04:31.480He says, no, it's as strong as a wall of granite, which is just to me, it's pretty terrifying because if it's as strong as a wall of granite, it sounds like he's probably going to get what he wants.
02:04:40.000And then Zelensky comes over here and kind of makes the same implied threat that made Trump outraged when he visited and sat down with Trump and J.D., which is, you have a big ocean.
02:04:50.240You don't feel pain now, but you'll feel pain later.0.50
02:04:53.060So all these vague threats, veiled threats, it's simply put, both Netanyahu and Zelensky need a wider conflict in order to stay in power.
02:05:08.140But in the Constitution, it states they have to have it even during wartime. Netanyahu, of course, wanted by his own government, not just the ICJ, wanted by Israel for crimes.
02:05:19.380They will not be able to prosecute him as long as he remains in power. Just how do you see kind of this new really axis of evil forming, man? I don't want to be a part of it.
02:05:27.020I don't either. And look, there's no advantage to America for being a part of any of these
02:05:34.860conflicts. I have yet to see any of the hawks, any of the foundation for the defense of democracy,
02:05:40.140neocons, or people who are just cheerleading this war or the Ukraine war, explain what is actually
02:05:46.700in it for the American people and explain it in a very, very clear and concise way that makes
02:05:52.920sense to your average American. If you say that we have to win over the Donbass, otherwise Putin
02:05:58.420is going to roll into Paris by Christmas, and then he'll be in New York City by New Year's,
02:06:03.100that just doesn't make any sense. That's nonsense. This war has been going on now. It's been a blood
02:06:07.720bath for well over, we're coming up on our third year. So the whole thing there is just completely
02:06:15.240and totally ridiculous. We've wasted our munitions. We're provoking essentially a nuclear war. It's0.82
02:06:19.800already a heavy economic war with the Russians. This has weakened the dollar. It's put us further
02:06:24.540in debt. So there's no benefit for the American people. And now Zelensky, because he knows that
02:06:28.580he can kind of expand his war that was, you know, kind of out of the spotlight for a while and not
02:06:33.420really popular with Republicans in general. Now he can try and wrap it into the Iran war that,
02:06:39.020although that war is not popular here either, he sees it as getting more attention and rightfully
02:06:43.940so it's getting more attention than his war. So he's trying to now link them. And so are a lot
02:06:48.580of the neocon backers and again for the neocons that say go in there and finish the job number
02:06:52.900one they can't define what finishing the job in iran actually means because most of them have
02:06:56.600never served a day or they just want us to involve in this thing endlessly and they won't just come
02:07:00.600out and say it so they like that slogan a lot more no that that's key that's key they say they'll
02:07:05.800even say they're anti-war they'll say hey hey but it's not a war yet joe in your experience you've
02:07:11.380done like 11 or 12 combat deployments of course special forces operator what does that mean when
02:07:16.060you hear that what do you think what do you say i mean i i've always said like please explain to
02:07:21.680me how that works if you say finish the job come up with a plan tell me how that works number one
02:07:25.760how we're going to do it and what it accomplishes at the end even if these guys got what they wanted
02:07:30.480if if the entire regime fell today inside of iran that would be an absolute disaster and i don't say
02:07:36.360it as a fan of the revolutionary uh islamic republic republican guard inside of iran i say
02:07:42.360that just in terms of just the facts on the ground. You have a country of 90 million people,
02:07:45.980multiple different ethnic groups, awash with weapons and war right now. If that government0.94
02:07:50.520did fall, it would be Libya on steroids that's directly connected to Europe. You'd have massive0.95
02:07:56.640migration issues. You'd have blowback terrorism issues. It would be an absolute nightmare and a
02:08:01.740disaster. So none of this is very well thought through. The Israelis have thought this through,
02:08:05.940and the Israelis have deployed their very, very powerful lobby here in America to make the case0.50
02:08:10.560that we need to continue to try to destabilize and put Iran into a state of chaos because
02:08:15.700the Israelis actually thrive in chaos. They think as long as their rivals and their enemies0.94
02:08:20.800are in a chaotic state, then they can't consolidate power and they can't come pose a
02:08:25.220threat to them. That's Israeli doctrine. That's not American doctrine. We're very much against0.93
02:08:28.940that. And again, this all goes back to just the fundamental question, like if any of this happens,
02:08:33.480what is in it for the United States of America? We heard the whole nonsense in the Iraq war,0.71
02:08:37.820Oh, it's going to be a great deal for America. We're going to get the oil. Like none of that ever happened. Trump's trying to make that happen right now, kind of. But based on what's taking place, the way that the war has now expanded into Iraq and just Iraqi domestic politics, I don't think that's going to happen there either. But none of this benefits the American people. And this is at a time when most people have a hard time filling up a full tank of gas and paying for groceries.0.95
02:08:59.480So this war is not in our best interest.
02:09:02.560Expanding the war is not in our best interest.
02:09:04.580And for the president to think about anything else and to listen to people that are explaining to him, like, you know, all these complicated plans for how we finish the job and how this is really some sort of a checkmate on China, et cetera.
02:09:13.360He needs to tune those people out and he needs to listen to Donald Trump in 2016 when he spoke plainly and clearly about what was in the best interest for the American people.
02:10:21.880Of course, I have way better sources than I could hope to have.
02:10:24.040egypt downplays drone strike as fears grow for suez canal it was reported last night this is
02:10:30.400july 30th this is written that an explosion occurred aboard two gas tankers at the port
02:10:35.480reuters said this is a drone attack well new york times this morning quoted two iranian officials
02:10:39.600who said the strike was intended to demonstrate that if iran chooses to escalate the situation
02:10:45.800this is key global energy supplies and shipping could be hit much harder so now we've got one
02:10:50.940choke point, Strait of Hormuz, two choke points, Strait of Hormuz, Babam and Deb, now three
02:10:56.340potentially with the Suez Canal. Joe, what's your take on this? Yeah, this is another case where
02:11:02.420it's very easy for the Iranians to inflict a lot of pain with very little resources. The Iranians1.00
02:11:09.220have geography working out in their advantage. Obviously, the Strait of Hormuz is in their1.00
02:11:12.960backyard. They have powerful allies they've invested in with the Houthis and the Babam and0.97
02:11:17.900And so now in powerful allies in Iran, powerful allies of Hezbollah.0.88
02:11:22.480So right now, in order to basically continue to frustrate and choke off the supply of energy to the world, they just need to keep up the pressure in the Straits of Hormuz, which is actually fairly simple for them to do with drones and ballistic missiles.0.89
02:11:34.840Bab al-Mandib, they've got their friends, the Houthis, that are doing that right now.0.89
02:11:38.620And then pushing out into the Suez Canal, it's just a matter of them either launching from their home soil, which they're more than capable of doing, or having the Houthis do it for them or having the Iraqi militias do it for them or having Hezbollah do it for them.0.67
02:11:50.520And so what the Iranians are trying to do right now, I think, is two things.0.89
02:11:53.280They're trying to chip away at the supply of world energy because that's going to hurt all the countries that are supporting the coalition that's supporting us against them.0.98
02:12:03.260But also, they are trying to fragment our relationship with all the different Sunni Arab states there in the Middle East.0.87
02:12:13.580They're trying to basically say it's not worth your while to be directly tied to the Americans.
02:12:18.980If you are directly tied to the Americans, we are going to inflict pain upon you.
02:12:23.880And right now, what's taking place in Iraq, we're seeing that in a very big way.0.56
02:12:26.980Iraq is ran by the Shia majority there, many of whom have close ties to the Iranian government.
02:12:32.620the Iraqis are caught in between. Zaydi, the prime minister, was in Washington, D.C., meeting
02:12:39.140of President Trump, and then he went to Tehran. So he's very much trying to make sure his country
02:12:43.840doesn't get dragged and sucked into this. The Iranians had their proxies start doing strikes0.87
02:12:48.240into Saudi Arabia, knowing that we would respond. So us and the Saudis then responded. And so now
02:12:53.920you have Americans and Saudis, Sunni Saudis, killing Shia militiamen in Iraq. So that's0.84
02:12:59.560another way that they can start chipping away at the alliance that we have with Iraq. There's a lot1.00
02:13:04.600of other dynamics there at play, but basically the Iranians are trying to inflict a cost on all of0.99
02:13:10.580our allies within the region. And if you look at Kuwait, if you look at Bahrain, you look at to a0.96
02:13:16.480certain extent Qatar as well. A lot of the countries that have been very closely aligned with
02:13:20.080us, Jordan most recently, the countries that have been the most closely aligned with us are starting
02:13:24.360to feel a lot of pain and they're going to start feeling a lot of internal pressure. Their leaders
02:13:28.180are from their people from their parliaments to say hey maybe we need to tell the americans like
02:13:32.720hey we love you but you can't base here and you most certainly can't launch attacks here against
02:13:37.680iran because it's really just not worth it anymore for us because if they keep hitting along the red
02:13:42.320sea they keep hitting the suez canal or even just occasionally doing it that that frustrates that
02:13:46.880shipping and makes the insurance premiums shoot up that takes away a good deal of the money that
02:13:51.900the egyptians receive because the egyptians they basically they have tourism they have some energy
02:13:55.980But the Suez Canal is a huge moneymaker for them0.99
02:13:58.680They're going to start losing money because of what the Houthis are doing further south down the Red Sea
02:14:02.640But an occasional drone or an occasional attack on any of those ports on the Med side0.95
02:14:07.300That's going to take away a lot of the Egyptian government's revenue as well0.87
02:14:10.720So this is the Iranian strategy and they don't need a lot of resources basically to continue to inflict pain upon us0.97
02:14:16.700This is where time is very much on the Iranian side and it's not on our side at all0.98
02:14:20.760Right. And let's just look out because months, years plus into the future, ultimately, people that support these operations, if you ask them, hey, you say, hey, point to a calendar for me, if you could.0.94
02:14:32.820What day is this going to end? You know, whereabouts? And, you know, just tell me, like, the gradual recovery of the oil market, the fertilizer, all the supplies and goods that float through these vital waterways that are choked off.
02:14:43.140You know, how long is it going to take us to rebuild our bases, rebuild our capability in the region with the radar and all of that?
02:14:48.760and they're not going to be able to give you a timeline because their position is it has to
02:14:53.140continue forever like that's what they have to defend right if you're defending the operations
02:14:57.140right now you have to say that we're able to do this in the region forever i think it was
02:15:01.280demonstrated before this happened just by the will of the american people trump winning a
02:15:05.840referendum against the iraq war in 2016 that americans were done with this sunk cost fallacy
02:15:11.180it's like the last day i was in the casino at vegas i was staying at a hotel jake shields put
02:15:15.820me and i had like 300 bucks i was like i didn't gamble the whole time i was here and then i lost
02:15:20.820all the money but you don't stay in the casino and go back over and over and over again and take0.79
02:15:26.000a mortgage out on your house because you know this time the lucky chinese dragon is going to0.98
02:15:29.940spin on the wheel and give you what you want it just doesn't work that way what do you say about0.98
02:15:33.820kind of the sunk cost fallacy all this i mean that's what this that's what this is and this
02:15:38.360should have been our lesson the lesson that we learned from the war on terror but then you know
02:15:42.380also the lesson we should have learned from the Vietnam War, is that it doesn't get better if you
02:15:47.000keep gambling. You can't drink yourself sober, whatever analogy you want to use. The fact that
02:15:51.560you have invested a ton of resources, a ton of lives into a certain problem, if you're not getting
02:15:57.780the result that you want, that doesn't mean you double down. That does not mean that more resources,
02:16:02.280more bombing campaigns, more troops, another surge, finishing the job, air quotes, none of
02:16:06.640that is going to work. We have enough data to support that. Now, the case can be made,
02:16:11.080do we try something different? I would even say the way that we're fighting this war right now,
02:16:15.680if I was in support of us fighting this war and us actually going after and taking down the Iranian0.78
02:16:21.060regime, I would basically have the same advice that I have right now. We should get out of the1.00
02:16:25.740region. Why are we running low on interceptors? If those reports are true, I don't know. But if
02:16:30.060we're running low on interceptors, that's because we've been firing an exorbitant amount of
02:16:33.520interceptors trying to defend bases that are getting hammered, bases that we can't put soldiers
02:16:37.940that anymore, bases that we can't really launch significant attacks from anymore. So what are we
02:16:43.160doing? Just the thing is, we get so stuck in this loop where we can't give up any ground. We can't
02:16:48.180retreat because then we're going to say, oh, the Iranians are going to claim that they pushed us
02:16:51.860out of the region. And that's going to be a major victory for them. They have us hostage, not the1.00
02:16:56.400other way around. It's like we got them right. Precisely. Yeah. We got them right where we want
02:17:01.020them. We're tied up in a chair, essentially, right in front of them. Exactly. And we're burning
02:17:04.940through really precious munitions. We've also burned through precious lives, defending these
02:17:09.740bases that may have served a purpose at one point in time, but now they don't. I mean, there's a
02:17:14.520basic principle in any kind of infantry tactics. If you can't shoot from where you're at, you have
02:17:19.980to maneuver and move positions. And that's essentially where we're at right now with our
02:17:23.600bases. But we've got our basically concrete around our feet, and we say that we can't leave these
02:17:28.720bases. But that's all self-imposed. We could leave these bases. We could get our troops out of the
02:17:33.380region. We could get our vessels, you know, away from the Straits of Hormuz and try a different
02:17:37.120tactic. But we just refuse to do that. And that is the sunk cost fallacy. That is the gambler's
02:17:41.600fallacy. And look, CENTCOM, the central command, they have been notorious for this. It didn't
02:17:46.380surprise me at all to see the report where Cooper said, you know, hey, boss, I just need 15 more
02:17:50.640days of another bombing campaign. I mean, CENTCOM commanders for decades now have said, I need one
02:17:55.900more troop surge. I need one more big push into, you know, this city or that city. And we'll turn
02:18:00.340the tide in Iraq. We'll turn the tide in Afghanistan. It's the exact same thing that0.96
02:18:04.080we're seeing here right now. We've got to break free from that. We have enough knowledge in the
02:18:07.860U.S. government that we should not be making these same mistakes all over again.
02:18:12.220Yeah, I think Colin Powell said not to make an Air Force general chief of staff because you need
02:18:17.140a soldier on the ground, you need that type of experience. And when people think you can just
02:18:20.380do a bombing campaign and win, bombing campaigns didn't win World War II. It's just reality. It
02:18:25.760was men on the ground that won World War II. And when people like to draw these comparisons,
02:18:29.760is like we have space age weapons and they're cavemen and they can't do anything. Well, that's
02:18:34.220not true. Sure. We have space age weapons. We have tons of stuff. They have the Shahid and the
02:18:38.820Shahid cost 15 G's. It doesn't cost four million dollars. And that ace, that asymmetry, that
02:18:44.520advantage they have when it comes to how much their stuff costs versus ours, that's enough to
02:18:49.200keep them in a fight, a fight that long term we can't wage. And I think the reality, the facts on
02:18:54.120the ground are right there. In closing, Joe Kent, what do you want people to know about the sadly
02:18:58.680coming escalation and what they should be prepared to see.
02:19:03.080Look, I think it's now is a time if you supported President Trump before, I think it's a time
02:19:23.600That's going to provide the political space where President Trump feels comfortable that0.79
02:19:27.260he can actually say that. And the voices that say, thank you for getting us out of this war
02:19:31.460will outweigh the voices that will criticize him and say he cowered or say we lost or that type of
02:19:36.460stuff. So I think the more that President Trump hears that people just want him to pull out of
02:19:40.960this war and he sees that can be a political win, I think that's the most important thing.
02:19:45.100Because if we say that, oh, Trump, you broke this, now you've got to fix it,
02:19:48.840all he's going to do is get a menu of options from CENTCOM, from the Pentagon that are going
02:19:53.300to say you know more bombing campaigns and that's how you slowly slide into putting boots on the
02:19:58.240ground because the the bombing campaigns just simply they're not going to work they're going
02:20:01.900to be spectacular they're going to make for great highlight footage we're going to be able to go say
02:20:05.040we bombed you know x y and z different things but then at some point his generals are going to come
02:20:09.380to him and say hey like if you want to keep doing this we're actually going to have to take ground
02:20:13.160and then we're going to take major losses and then we are going to be locked into this thing he's got
02:20:17.300a narrow window it's it's tragic that we lost those those troops but we fired back we took our
02:20:21.980retaliation. He's got a window right now where he could end this thing. This is as good of a time
02:20:26.940as I think he's going to get. If he doesn't take advantage of this window right now to get our
02:20:31.740troops out, we're going to be locked into further escalation. He needs to start listening to
02:20:35.400different people. You know, you talked about the intelligence picture. Unfortunately, he just
02:20:38.800hasn't been listening to the intelligence picture. Our intelligence picture as to what the Iranians
02:20:43.000would do, it's been pretty accurate for the entire time that I was in the administration.
02:20:47.200The president, unfortunately, just chose to listen to a lot of the pundits, a lot of the talking heads,
02:20:51.220and a lot of the neocons who hated his guts before this war, who got him into this war.
02:20:56.260He needs to tune them out. He needs to bring in other voices, but just have the moral courage
02:21:00.240and the political strength to pull all of our troops out of the region.
02:21:03.800Powerful intel. Thank you for your time. Joe Kent, ladies and gentlemen,
02:21:06.900we'll be right back after these messages.
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02:23:28.440so much, but the reality is famine. The reality is global war. The reality is technocracy. The
02:23:34.960reality is mass migration. Here's the thing. If you're awake to that, if you're awake to the
02:23:39.980problem, just like we talked about with Joe Kent with the alcoholic analogy, then you're able to
02:23:45.080recover from it. But as long as you continue to live in the delusion and to eat the tic-tacs that
02:23:50.580the system gives you, you will never truly be able to make progress. And here's the thing.
02:23:54.560It is a wonderful thing to have disagreements to debate things, but you cannot deny reality. And the reality is we are at full and total war. It's not just a war with missiles and drones and people in the Middle East. It's not just a war against Russia and Ukraine, a proxy war, the West versus Eurasia, Russia, China, you name it.
02:24:13.440It's not just the South China Sea. It is also the mass influx and inflow of third world populations that are from these destabilized and destroyed regions in the global south that are a direct consequence of the wars that we fight in large part for greater Israel.0.71
02:24:29.060So that is the key. That is the thing to realize. Now, of course, not all the mass migration is a result of that. Of course, we've covered George Soros since literally before I was alive. He is a huge part of that, as well as the leftist NGOs, USAID in the past, just been reformed to a new organization and many other.0.98
02:24:47.720We're going to go to a report from my father talking about the conquering, taking over
02:25:12.280They're coming over on a takeover mission, and they are going to subsume Europe and0.99
02:25:17.640take it over because they come from a region that is so destroyed and so destabilized. They don't0.74
02:25:22.540know if they're going to get food or water the next day. You know what happens when you give
02:25:26.020those people where welfare and resources, they have about a dozen kids. Okay. And this isn't
02:25:31.220something as to where it's like, Oh, the Europeans don't have children anymore. And their birth rate
02:25:36.200is so much higher. It's literally all because of the society they come from versus the society
02:25:41.880that we live in. Okay. We live in the lap of luxury. We live in a world where basically
02:25:46.300everybody well not in america but in the west and europe a lot of these people are literate a lot
02:25:50.500of these people are educated a lot of these people are used to a high standard of living
02:25:54.240combined with civil rights ain't no civil rights in bangladesh ain't no civil rights in singapore
02:25:59.220ain't no civil rights in sudan ain't no civil rights in somalia they just come over here and
02:26:04.120it's literally like getting transported to heaven on earth they have about 12 kids with the0.80
02:26:08.260government's health at help and then they implement their own culture their own religion because why
02:26:13.080would they assimilate? They never had to. They never could. So go ahead and play my father's
02:26:19.280report about the takeover of Spain. Globalist controlled replacement migration directed by0.78
02:26:25.640the U.N. has gone into high gear. There's over 30 million Muslims and other invaders out of the1.00
02:26:30.880Middle East and North Africa already in Europe destroying it. And now over three million military1.00
02:26:36.300age men last five years of coming to Spain alone. And the new communist government announced this
02:26:40.920year that they're going to let unlimited numbers come in. Anybody that gets there,
02:26:45.040gets free welfare, even more than citizens, everything paid for. Look, a 50% unemployment
02:26:50.640for those under 30 in Spain. They are collapsing the country by design. And posted in the same1.00
02:26:57.660post, you see footage of what was just landing yesterday. And more videos are coming in today.
02:27:03.360And they are landing and they are doing throat slitting signs. They're screaming and yelling.
02:27:07.640They have no possessions other than debit cards the U.N. gives them, the NGOs, the Soros operations, Catholic charities, Jewish charities, the same one that Mayorkas used to run, same NGOs that flooded us are flooding Europe.0.85
02:27:20.120And the Spanish government has said the doors are open.0.95
02:27:23.360Once again, to Spain, they flood the rest of Europe.1.00
02:27:25.700Remember, the Muslims conquered Spain for over 500 years, and that started the Crusades to kick them out.0.97
02:27:31.600So this is globalist, U.N., communist, BlackRock-funded systems allied with the Islamic globalist third-world invasion.0.93
02:27:43.020And it's just going to get worse and worse until Europe totally collapses.
02:27:46.560Germany shut down their last nuclear reactors, shut down all their coal power plants.
02:27:50.000Mercedes can't even get energy to build cars.
02:27:52.300The U.S. blew up the North Stream pipeline that supplied half of Europe's gas or 45% of it.
02:27:56.640I mean, this is economic warfare against us all.
02:27:59.340You should go ahead and pause it right there.
02:28:00.300We're someone insulated here in the U.S.
02:28:01.200Let's go ahead and pause it right there. We'll go back to it. Here's the thing to all my mercy, hating, hell yeah, bomb Iran, bomb Middle East, kill them all. To all people out there that feel that way, you actually want these migrants over here. You're rooting for them to come. That's what you support with your foreign policy. And that's, oh, that's not true. I deny that. I hate the migrants. I don't want them in my country.
02:28:23.240Will you support the wars that lead to destabilization, mass famine in their countries, and then they come to the West?0.94
02:28:29.640It's called problem, reaction, solution.
02:28:42.400That's your consequence of general destabilization that allows for those NGOs and leftist groups to do things like this under cover of night,
02:28:50.420of our undercover of darkness, ultimately under the cover of blood, because when there's a million
02:28:56.100and a half dead people in the Ukraine, Russia war, when there's thousands of dead people and
02:29:00.640dozens of dead American soldiers in the Iran war, people pay more attention to that than they do
02:29:06.160of hordes of military age men coming into their country. Do you see the wives? Do you see the
02:29:12.480children? Do you see Nana on bended knee? No, you do not. You see guys look looking like they could
02:29:18.420be in uniform tomorrow and they probably will be this is the classic rome scenario we're probably
02:29:23.840going to do this as well michael yon mike adams matt bracken talk about this the idea that our
02:29:29.800military would be of native stock for much longer is very very ridiculous because hey these elite
02:29:35.440authoritarian governments that want to track trace and control us they can just get muhammad
02:29:39.620abdul and ganesh to do it just fine and uh that'll be great it'll be liberal and everyone will sign0.60
02:29:45.780off on it and the the nine year old boomers will pat pat themselves on the back and you know then
02:29:50.640will probably get strangled by the haitian orderly or something at the nursing home it is what it is
02:29:54.680it's a beautiful system we are the world right we are the world keep playing it play the footage of0.82
02:30:01.020the people running around we are the world we are the children we are the military age men who come0.99
02:30:07.600to kill you we are invading your country you will speak arabic you will speak pakistani it is time0.94
02:30:15.580to be liberal liberal liberal it is time to be liberal and that's literally where we are i'm not0.99
02:30:24.320joking it's just like the people that did like the we're gonna get your children thing and of
02:30:29.900course like we're gonna vaccinate you thing like the dr fauci hitler worship songs and all of that
02:30:34.460they need to write the songs about the mass migration and i'm calling for people on the
02:30:38.820right to do that right now because that's what happens when you support these wars this is what
02:30:43.700you support my little migrant buddies from all the wars that I support. They're coming to be my
02:30:49.900friend to rape my wife. And that's where that's where we are. So I see my dad on the phone there.1.00
02:30:55.000What's going on there? Crew, can you tell me what's up there? Maybe he wants to join us.
02:31:00.420All right, we're going to be joined by my dad shortly. It's just key to point this out
02:31:04.200day over day over day. This is not just started happening. This has happened for decades. And
02:31:09.760we got our own version of this on our southern border. OK, I want you to keep in mind, Joe Biden
02:31:16.240immediately told people when I am president, immediately surge the border. It is widely
02:31:21.940reported that over 20 million people came here, many of them not from Mexico, not from Latin
02:31:29.140America, not from South America, but from the Middle East, from Africa, from Asia, from Eurasia,
02:31:35.040from West Asia, from places like where these people are coming from. And it's literally like
02:31:40.080dealing with Martians. All right. There's a Mexican where it's a sombrero, wants to do some1.00
02:31:45.140work, whatever. Right. Catholic Christian background. This is like unheard of stuff1.00
02:31:49.840that you've never seen before. It's coming for you in your backyard right now. And anyone that
02:31:55.340denies it denies the societal wide program. So we're being joined by my father, Alex Jones.
02:32:00.280dad how are you doing i just wanted to give people some background here and we can take
02:32:06.700this clip from me live on the show and add a year ago and six months ago the president the
02:32:11.620communist leader of spain said we're legalizing three million north african mainly muslims
02:32:16.700military age men 90 plus percent commit mass crime we're legalizing them and anybody else
02:32:21.300that can get here uh is going to be legal from here on out so literally hundreds of thousands0.93
02:32:25.940a month are hitting. This all happened just yesterday and is ongoing today. We'll play the
02:32:31.660Fox newscast in a minute. But I noticed when I shot a report about this earlier, I was flooded
02:32:35.800with bots on X saying, I'm making it up. Show my proof. This is AI. This is not real. Spain was
02:32:42.040invaded by the Moors, same people out of North Africa, conquered for 500 plus years. They took1.00
02:32:46.500over 2 million women as slaves, sex slaves. La Reconquista took hundreds of years to retake
02:32:51.780Spain. Then it expanded into the Middle East. The Crusades came out of the reconquista,
02:32:57.100the reconquering of Spain. So again, this is the left literally telling us none of this is
02:33:02.460happening when they're running the actual invasion. These are all military-age men.
02:33:07.960They are literally there to rape and kill and do whatever they want. They're all signed up for1.00
02:33:11.360welfare. The Spanish government says that they're all legal. They want to replace the Spanish with
02:33:16.560these people, that these are better. This is what the left votes for. This is who they are.1.00
02:33:21.780And this is the reality of what we are facing.
02:33:25.100So I want to play this Fox newscast with the same NGOs running this, or the same NGOs running this around the world, running the attacks and the invasion that we're witnessing here as well.
02:33:42.560It's one of the main ways the U.N. said they'd use migration flows.
02:33:45.740The U.N. said that they would use these other systems to do this.
02:33:51.780over and over and over and over again. And so this is where we are right now in the year 2026.
02:34:00.800And people just need to get with the program and realize this is happening and just get out of
02:34:06.380their denial. They said, we'll use migrant flows, viruses and wars to do it, collapse the world
02:34:11.340economy, bring in the central bank digital currencies. That's the plan for the entire West.0.97
02:34:15.020We need Crusades 2.0 just to secure our republics and kick these people out now. Here's the Fox
02:34:20.480newscast and then we'll take this report and we'll put in the spanish government admitting
02:34:24.140this invasion plan and the rest of them posted to action rumble and then you the paul reveres
02:34:27.880will share it here's the fox news report back to you rex thank you really wild video here chaos at
02:34:34.360the border of spain's north african enclave in morocco this is a city called suta you're watching
02:34:39.780as thousands of migrants break through the fence and completely overwhelm the border police their
02:34:45.880video showing huge groups of people, mostly young military age guys cramming into inflatable tubes
02:34:52.280or arriving on shore another way, some of them waiting in the water as they break through the
02:34:56.660gates to get to the other side. Sandra, this is reminiscent of kind of what we saw during the open
02:35:01.880border during the Biden administration through 2021, 2024, kind of similar to what we saw in
02:35:06.260Del Rio back in 2021. The socialist agenda, their platform literally says they want to abolish
02:35:13.100borders, abolish immigration enforcement, have complete freedom of movement. This is what it
02:35:17.720looks like in another country if they get what they want. Notice there is no resistance from
02:35:21.520the government whatsoever. These people are coming in without any obstruction. And if people don't
02:35:26.840know, Spain has a very left-wing government. Earlier this year, they did a big amnesty
02:35:30.560program for over a million illegal immigrants living in the country. They had 1.3 million
02:35:35.180illegal immigrants apply for that amnesty program between April and June. So that's what we call a0.64
02:35:40.940pull factor, Sandra. They're looking for something like that. They know if they can just get their
02:35:44.900foot in the country, maybe someday that left-wing government will do another amnesty program. And
02:35:49.120you were just reading some of the wires. The locals want an emergency declaration. It sounds
02:35:53.180like... The ministry is saying no. And they will not deploy military to the border. Apparently
02:35:57.000they don't think this is an... I mean, look at this. This is a total free-for-all. It does feel
02:36:00.700like we are looking at a few years ago when you were reporting at the border here in the United
02:36:03.540States. This is happening right now. This story is breaking right now. And you're not just talking
02:36:07.740about hundreds thousands of migrants are pouring over the borders as we speak yeah and again i
02:36:13.460mean just look here do you see any women or children i mean most people would call these
02:36:17.200folks so-called asylum seekers these are all young guys just flooding into the country and
02:36:22.160overwhelming what if any border there is it looks like there's just kind of a small barbed wire fence
02:36:26.960or something like that but you can see the spanish government has caught completely off guard here
02:36:32.380And you have thousands of these men. I mean, it literally looks like you often hear the word invasion, but it literally looks like one here.
02:36:40.460Look at that. I mean, you see the border fence there. They're all just going around it.
02:36:43.700And again, the head of Spain's civil guard is calling this absolute chaos and a brand new interview.
02:36:50.200He said, quote, it's not possible to give precise numbers, but there are thousands of migrants crossing right now.
02:36:56.360He added that the border has totally collapsed, quote, unquote.0.98
02:37:01.500Yeah, it certainly looks like it. And for folks who don't know where this is, this is a small Spanish city autonomous in North Africa.
02:37:09.720It's actually in Morocco, but it does have Spanish autonomy. It's called Suta.
02:37:15.080So this isn't on the mainland of Spain. But these images, we've been looking at them on social media all morning.
02:37:22.160It's just stark to see that there is no resistance whatsoever.
02:37:25.400I mean, at least in Del Rio back in 2021, when those 20,000 Haitians were crossing the river, similar images to this.
02:37:31.800You had some border patrol there. You had Texas DPS there trying to stop them.1.00
02:37:35.960Here in Spain, there is absolutely nothing stopping these folks from wading ashore and climbing the fences.
02:37:41.580And Sandra, just, I mean, look at that in the background.
02:37:43.880I mean, there are thousands upon thousands of these men just flooding the country.0.97
02:37:50.380Yeah. Yeah. So they say, oh, it looks like an invasion.1.00
02:37:53.980It looks like one. It is one. You have to be objectively real with what you're seeing and what people are saying there. Obviously, those men are not there to, you know, find a loaf of bread for their children that are right behind them or for their Nana. That's right there. They're there to take over. And you know what? They have the right to do that because nobody's stopping them. Look, the police are holding open the gate. Click on that. Let's make that a little bit bigger, please.
02:38:17.760the police are holding the gate open for the invading migrants and once you reach this level1.00
02:38:24.540in your society look at them in their uniforms oh i bet you said something about covid they threw
02:38:29.780you in jail oh i i bet well maybe not spain because they're pretty critical of israel but0.72
02:38:33.900another eu nations where they do the same thing you talk about the migrants they put you in jail
02:38:37.860talk about israel they put you in jail but they'll open the door for people that have paid nothing0.89
02:38:42.860into your country have no tie to your country no historical claim to be there and they will say not0.65
02:38:47.580only do they have the same rights as you, they have more rights than you. They're better people
02:38:52.100than you because they've had to suffer more. And it's your fault, white person, that they've had0.93
02:38:57.320to suffer more. It's not the fault of the evil world jury or the world government or the trans0.96
02:39:02.700national capital that runs everything. It's certainly not. It's your fault. It's your fault
02:39:09.360because these are your nations and they did somehow slavery or something. So you're bad.0.89
02:39:14.180let's just leave at the door the fact that these are literally the people from north africa the1.00
02:39:18.380arab people that pioneered and ran the slave trade all right like my dad just said conquered
02:39:23.660spain for 400 years this is the same thing talk about michael yawn uh really same thing talk about0.96
02:39:28.200with joe kent the historical patterns the cycles they just happen over and over and over again
02:39:33.820and there seems to be no stopping them even in this information age where hey everybody watching
02:39:39.200this right now knows what i'm saying is true and they're able to follow it but people in these
02:39:43.460countries. This is why we have to appreciate the First Amendment here in America. They truly do
02:39:47.620not know. They have been so co-opted, so cowed, so propagandized. They've been taught that this
02:39:53.300is normal. And hey, in one to two generations, those countries won't exist anymore. Do we want
02:39:57.380the same fate for ourselves here in America? Absolutely not. The migrant problem under Joe
02:40:02.680Biden, completely outrageous, over 20 million people came here, surged the border. The government
02:40:07.120will never pull work permits, pull their ability to buy a car, pull their ability to get a mortgage,
02:40:11.820buy a house, do whatever. They'll never touch any of that because as Trump says, he's got friends
02:40:16.160in big ag and friends in hospitality. And just like the Epstein files and Trump's friends are
02:40:20.740going to get hurt. He doesn't actually do the thing he promised to do. And I'm talking to Andrew
02:40:25.000Wilson, who kind of hangs his hat on the fact that, hey, you know, we're at net negative migration.0.56
02:40:29.260I'll kind of take that as a trade for the Iran war. That's not a war. I think that's a bit of
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02:43:30.480got about five minutes left i just want to cover this really quick because people deny history and
02:43:34.700this is just reality why have so many neo-nazis rallied to ukraine's cause so go ahead and just
02:43:39.960do overhead shot please i thought it was key and i was going to get to it he kind of beat me to the
02:43:44.920jump on it when my dad was interviewing michael yawn and they were talking about this stuff and
02:43:49.920they were talking about the canadian uh not canadian they're talking about yeah well the
02:43:53.580canadian parliament gave a standing ovation to this man that apparently fought the russians
02:43:58.560during world war ii and of course we all know what that means when in reality this guy was a member
02:44:02.980of a ukrainian created division of the waffen ss all right literally committing mass murder for
02:44:08.440hitler killing poles and ukrainians in the region of bandera right and zelinski and stephen trudeau
02:44:14.980put a medal around his neck and he called him a good boy he's a good person and they clapped for
02:44:18.960him like five times it kind of reminds me of when netanyahu comes to visit and we give him a standing
02:44:23.300ovation. It's a bit insane, macabre and ridiculous. This is a reality. This has been0.99
02:44:28.560talked about since even before 2014. This is a known history of this country. And this is my
02:44:34.080key point just at the end of the segment here. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom
02:44:38.300fighter. And drawing the line between the two is a bit ridiculous, a bit absurd. And I'll quote my0.95
02:44:43.620president when it comes to this. You think we're so innocent? That's what Trump says. You think
02:44:48.180we're so innocent? So whenever we talk about these wars, these conflicts, these engagements,
02:44:52.120And we talk about it from a moral perspective, right? Like there's some moral reason to be at combat, some moral reason to be at war. We are always allied with the devil, right? Because no one's interests are pure. When we talk about great powers, everyone has to do something in order to make their existing line of governance stick.
02:45:10.160And our existing line of governments is murder and terrorism across the wider world with our over 700 military bases.
02:45:16.840And we tend to get in bed with the worst people that either want to genocide and build greater Israel or want to genocide the ethnic Russians and have the Azov Battalion, Bandarite version of Ukraine.
02:45:28.000So we're going to be getting into all of that coming up very, very soon.
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02:51:41.060Welcome back to the program. Third hour of The Alex Jones Show are being joined by Andrew Wilson.
02:51:47.000Very successful online debater, commentator, host of The Crucible.
02:51:50.580Well, me and Andrew had a stream about I think it was seven weeks into the conflict where I believe like we disagree with each other's position on whether this is a war or not a war.
02:51:59.900So I want to define terms. I want to define what we're talking about here. I don't want to speak for you, Andrew. I want you to speak for yourself. Where do you stand now into the conflict six months?
02:52:09.540i'm fine calling it a war i don't think that's a problem um it definitely is not voting well
02:52:17.420for the trump administration that's for sure going on six months with no real resolution
02:52:23.300in sight so i don't think that it was a great idea for his administration to do right and and
02:52:29.720this is the frustration that i had initially forget just being a young person for just being
02:52:34.58023 for a second and thinking about the prospect of us being involved in another like ground war
02:52:38.540in the Middle East. It just seemed like something that could never be extricated from. And like,
02:52:42.980what is, or I don't want to speak for you, what's your belief on the reality of this being like
02:52:48.500winnable per se? There's no clear objective for what winning is. And so I'm not sure what we would
02:52:56.780even be winning. If you go into a country and you attack them, you need to kill everybody until you1.00
02:53:04.100have unconditional surrender. And short of that, you should probably shouldn't be fighting a war0.98
02:53:09.220at all. That is in fact the case. So, um, I, I never thought it was a great idea for Trump to go
02:53:16.220in. Um, my kind of red line with him is whether or not he does a ground campaign. I think if he
02:53:23.600does that, it'll be the ultimate disaster for his administration. I still think that, uh, support
02:53:29.380for donald trump as opposed to the alternative is still a much better proposition ultimately for the
02:53:34.980nation but i understand the anti-war sentiment yeah so i think that's kind of the key disagreement
02:53:42.060that we have there because i think we both agree now six months into the conflict that it is a war
02:53:46.560and all that and that it's not voting well as you said for the trump administration i agree
02:53:50.160here's where i stand if we back him relentlessly into the hilt it shows that our coalition is weak
02:53:57.080because we don't care about what we put them in power to do.
02:54:00.040What do you think about the alternative?
02:54:02.320Well, I mean, if you don't hold them to account in 2026,
02:54:05.460we're going to have a period where they're not going to be able to pack the Supreme Court.
02:54:08.520They're not going to be able to do much of anything.
02:54:10.160But if the electorate shows this is unacceptable,
02:54:13.020then in 2028, we could have a real populist platform.
02:54:16.980I actually don't understand that position.
02:54:19.860How do we get to a populist platform from us giving up power?
02:54:24.080So one thing, one rule in politics, if you have power, you don't give it up ever.
02:54:29.640And the reason you don't want to do that is because the opposition will come in, undo everything that you've done and reverse your policies.
02:54:36.860By the time you get power back again, all you're doing is undoing.
02:54:40.100It's just like an undoing after undoing after undoing.
02:54:44.340So you want to consolidate power to the right for sure.
02:54:47.740Do you think are we in power right now?
02:54:56.300Most Republicans do represent what you voted for.
02:54:58.520There's a few defectors you probably don't like, but overarchingly, Republicans have been fairly decent when it comes to things like migration, when it comes to trans issues and social issues.
02:55:26.480Yeah, I'm certain that there's multiple policies that you would consider to be failures from the right or Republican Party.
02:55:32.800But that really doesn't have any bearing over whether or not, if you look at the totality of how it's going to be governed between the left or the right, it's going to be far superior under the right than the left.
02:55:43.140And so what I look at politically is I'm looking at political longevity.
02:55:47.980Who's the nation going to be better in the hands of ultimately?
02:55:50.920And it's going to be the right wing and it's going to be Republicans.
02:55:52.940and there's no ifs, ands, or buts about that.
02:57:12.580And this is in response to something we'll get into later in the next segment, which relates to our Epstein disagreement.
02:57:17.900Right. So I want to say this in context. I'm not saying this is exclusively an Iranian war
02:57:22.380argument, but it does reference kind of your feelings towards the Iranian people. I'm going
02:57:26.120to read this. Not only that, I'll tell you something really interesting. I do know of a
02:57:30.560satanic type religion of pedophiles. And right this second, Trump is blowing them up right this0.99
02:57:35.480second. As we speak, he blew up their leadership. The Ayatollah Hamani instituted child marriage as
02:57:41.260young as nine years old inside of Iran, and we're killing them overwhelmingly. You want to talk0.96
02:57:45.640about pedophiles let's talk about pedophiles where are they at i can tell you who are blowing up right
02:57:50.560now who are pedophiles that would be trump blowing up pedophiles that's what he's doing currently
02:57:55.820is that the way you feel about all the civilian deaths in this war as well what's your no what i
02:58:01.280was doing there was uh testing a lot the logical consistency of the uh pedophile craze for epstein0.99
02:58:09.100So the idea was from from Owen's position was that the most important thing was to stop the pedophiles who are in government and who are eating children and all this shit.0.99
02:58:20.220Right. So I said, look, if that's the case, if it's really just about pedophiles, then we can point out that there's another nation that's completely filled the brim with them.0.99
02:58:29.420And we're blowing them up at the moment. It's just to test the logical consistency. It's not a position that is pro war.
02:58:35.240it's just a position just to be just to be clear if it's purely like to test logic you do not
02:58:41.400support bombing pedophiles in iran no well i don't support it let's just say like if we put it in a
02:58:48.620vacuum if all the pedophiles in iran died of a heart attack i would support that but if it's the0.99
02:58:54.720case that i have to send united states soldiers over to blow them up i'm not so sure that that's0.99
02:59:01.260a great idea. No. Okay. So that's what you meant when you said, I'm not an anti-war guy, but I'm
02:59:06.580not a pro-Iranian war guy. Correct. I'm not anti-war. It just depends on what the war or the0.98
02:59:12.360conflict is. So I'm an America first-er. It's the case that I'm anti-Iranian war, sure, but I'm an
02:59:18.640America first-er. So the idea is that there could be wars that America needs to engage in for its
02:59:23.600own interest. You would agree with me on that. It's just that this probably isn't one of them.0.93
02:59:27.860Yeah, but your opinion has changed because initially you didn't call it a war. Now you're calling it a war.
02:59:34.560Well, at the time, I think that it fit the criteria of a conflict more than it did a war, and it was a very short conflict that led to what looked like possibly a ceasefire, but that fell apart, and it does look like it's becoming a hot war, yeah.
02:59:49.100Right. A regional conflict, a regional war. And this is this is the reality. Like, there's no brakes on this train. This is why it grinds my gears when people still support the president over this and say there's some reason to this. There's not. This is a covid of choice, in my view. Would you disagree with that?
03:00:04.720Yeah. So I'm not supporting. Do you agree with me that we don't have to support every position of Donald Trump to still understand that he's the lesser of two evils here?
03:00:15.220I think there's a hierarchy. I think when you do like the grand ultimate sin, I think it really counts against you. I think that's what he's done with the war, the peace president.
03:00:22.600I don't think that that's the grand ultimate sin. The grand ultimate sin is yielding right
03:00:28.600wing power to progressive insane lunatics. Okay. These people are lunatics. I've seen what they1.00
03:00:35.020do when they're in power again, that I think is the ultimate sin. I think that, and by the way,
03:00:40.200I'm not even sure that having progressives in power would stop any foreign conflict. It hasn't
03:00:45.680before. Like what foreign conflict do they ever stop? I've never seen them stop any of them. I
03:00:50.780always see them get expanded under progressives in fact got expanded under obama clinton bombed
03:00:55.740foreign nations every time a progressive is in power i see them do this so i don't i don't even
03:01:00.740know that that follows that voting in progressives is going to even stop any of the conflicts anyway
03:01:05.040at least if we're in power and can apply some sort of pressure on republicans and the republican
03:01:10.460administration um i mean that's superior to when if we had progressives in power i think
03:01:16.160Is there any accountability for the Republican Party, or do they just get to avoid punishment forever for breaking their promises?
03:01:23.980One of the problems we have in this nation, man, is that politics is a team sport, and we have universal suffrage, and so that's also a team sport.
03:01:33.060And so you want your team to win, and you have to have your team in power.
03:02:09.040I just think we've lost more than we've gained conservatively.
03:02:11.860Let's just go with the initial 39-day-of-the-war count.
03:02:14.120It's 113 billion. Look at our bases, look at things destroyed, look at munitions, call it another few billion, whatever we want to say.
03:02:21.820Look at the global energy crisis, ramification for people at home. People are spending more money.
03:02:26.220Ultimately, you're looking at like around a 200 billion dollar price tag for, you know, 150 days or six months of war.
03:02:32.740It's going to be more than that before it's done.
03:02:34.700Absolutely. Absolutely. So how on, quote unquote, our side, quote unquote, the right.
03:02:40.500How is that not the ultimate sin? I'm going to put that back to you.
03:02:43.600Because domestic policy is even more important than foreign policy is significantly more important.
03:02:50.940And the domestic policy under Democrats is going to look like this.
03:02:54.320They're going to institute corporate tax increases immediately, which Trump tried to offset with tariffs, which is going to increase the amount that you pay for your goods significantly.
03:03:04.240They tried to say that Trump was doing that when he instituted tariffs.
03:03:36.740There's a foreign policy blunder that's going on, and it really sucks, and I hope we can rein it in.
03:03:41.220But I'm telling you right now that the alternative of putting progressives in power is going to destroy the nation even further than it's been destroyed significantly more.
03:03:50.540Right now you have who on the left? You have Mamdani. You have communists coming out of the east, which is where they've traditionally come from, moving their way out westward.
03:04:00.500You want these people in power? No, you don't. You don't want them in power.
03:04:04.740Even if it was the case that they reigned in some of these wars, which I doubt, I doubt, but let's just give them the benefit of the doubt, they will still destroy you domestically.
03:04:13.600They're handed the keys to the kingdom, though, when we have coffins come home draped in American flags.
03:04:18.440And I just, the whole narrative about Mom Donnie, he's in the Oval Office shaking hands with Donald Trump hanging out.0.54
03:04:23.600So the whole narrative of, oh, the great communist enemy, the evil enemy, I just see these as different factions that want to destroy the country.
03:04:29.560Do you not see the Republicans as a different faction that wants to destroy?
03:04:32.680No. I've never believed the ideal that this was a two-headed snake with one single body. That's not the case. The case of the matter is that if you have universal suffrage, you're always going to be reduced to a single party.
03:04:47.120Even in places where they have rounds of voting like they do in the UK, it often comes down to just two parties, which are the two major parties.
03:04:54.700There's not much you can do because there's a couple of wedge issues that parties can build their platforms around that people will endlessly fight about.
03:05:08.940That doesn't mean he doesn't hate him.
03:05:10.080That doesn't mean he's not smiling, waiting to put a knife in his back and in the back of the republic, because they are.1.00
03:05:15.780These people are psychopathic lunatics, and they're communists, and their entire ideology is the destruction of capitalist America.1.00
03:05:23.760That's what they want more than anything.0.99
03:05:25.380Yeah, and when America supports and props up genocides that Israel and Ukraine commit, and then people like Mamdani can run on being opposed to that, we hand them a free win.0.83
03:05:35.640Yeah, look, I agree with you that politically this was a bad idea for Trump, that it's going to weaken his base support and already has, that it is the case that many of the right-wingers are going to be extremely upset about this, and they are.0.75
03:05:49.720I agree with all of that. There's nothing you're saying there which is untrue.
03:05:52.800I know, but it wasn't your initial. This wasn't your initial position here that you're saying, though, that also or that I'm saying that's untrue either.
03:06:01.020Both things are true. It is true that his support is being eroded because of this conflict.
03:06:06.520There's no ifs, ands or buts about that. But it's equally true that if we have progressives in power,
03:06:10.680domestic policies are going to turn to absolute Shinola and they are going to destroy us.
03:06:15.600Both things are true at the same time. So what's the pathway forward is what we're discussing. Right.
03:06:20.300Well, how do you hold the idea is like, what do we do?
03:07:34.920It depends on which party and which platform you're looking at.
03:07:38.000If you're looking at the Democrat and Republican, the dialectic there, they're mostly held by huge donors, by NGOs, and their constituency and what their constituency wants.
03:07:48.680One thing both constituencies agree on is they want to move away from the Iraq conflict, but NGOs and donors on both sides may not want to do that.
03:07:58.760So yes, both parties are seized by NGOs. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about that, and also they have some sort of beholdenness to their own constituency.
03:08:08.220So it's a coalition of factors and not a single factor.
03:08:11.300So if it's being run by donor by donor money and not by the will of the people, the will of the voters, then how are we bad for wanting to hold them to account by doing the only thing we can do by not voting for them?
03:08:23.340Yeah, that's not how is that going to help, though?
03:08:25.880Like, what is that going to do for you?
03:08:30.440Yeah. What does it do? Stagnation in Washington, D.C., perhaps a passing of the war powers resolution into the Iran conflict impeachment charges for Trump for war crimes blowing up the school.
03:08:41.960OK, so let's just assume that you get all of that. That's going to take a progressive majority. You agree with me there, right?
03:08:48.360I don't think so. There's no way you're going to get an impeachment. I said you're not going to get an impeachment of Donald Trump without a progressive majority, dude.
03:08:54.240No way they can do an impeachment in the House and have it fail in the Senate. That happened before.
03:08:57.940Well, then that's not an and that's not a real impeachment. Right. The question comes down to this. What do you get if progressives are in office? Tell me what I'm going to get. What do I get? Probably not. What is me the average? Probably not. OK, great. I know I'm not asking what I don't get. I'm asking what I do get. What do I get? Well, I told you I consider that to be the supreme thing. You're going to make arguments. Are they going to pack the Supreme Court? No, I don't get anything. So. So, OK. The conflict in Iran goes away.
03:09:27.940Which it wasn't there for most of Trump's presidency, first and second term.
03:12:14.940You're still not answering what I'm asking you.
03:12:17.000how are democrats who you can't even guarantee i told you i'm not getting world war three you can't
03:12:22.180i'm not getting world war three andrew me that they'll stop world war three bro so just tell me0.99
03:12:26.940what do i get if they're in charge of the domestic policy the united states besides completely fucked0.98
03:12:32.240what do i get get no war i'm gonna keep saying it that's it yeah except you can you promise me0.98
03:12:37.820when democrats are in office i get no war well you promised me it was a seven-week conflict
03:12:41.280and not a war and then you changed your mind so no you you get to have it both ways you get to
03:12:46.080have your cake and eat it too but then i have to respond to your hypothetical if the democrat
03:12:50.660win they destroy the country because you say so i don't agree with your assertion they're going to
03:12:54.540i don't think they're going to destroy the country so then why not tell people to vote for democrats
03:12:58.120tell them to vote for democrats rex do it live right now in the house jones program say no we're
03:13:03.520not going to be doing that i'm not voting for my own destruction democrat republican they are two
03:13:08.000wings on the same bird you disagree with that that is my position the most important thing is
03:13:11.360world war three rex tell people to vote for democrats because they're going to save us do it
03:13:14.800do not vote for zionist republicans that want to end your life and your family lineage forever by0.65
03:13:20.240sending them off why not tell them don't put words in my mouth andrew don't put words in my mouth0.91
03:13:24.040why not why don't you tell them to vote for democrats rex why not because i disagree with
03:13:29.200that position why not tell them i disagree with how do you disagree with the position the most
03:13:32.680important thing is world war three and the democrats are going to save us from it why
03:13:35.980wouldn't you vote them into office rex tell me i'm not showing up to the polls i don't have to
03:13:39.920exist in your binary okay right so i guess the most important thing isn't stopping world war
03:13:43.740three then because you can't even be bothered to show up to vote that doesn't consistent position
03:13:49.060that doesn't make sense consistent position andrew you said it wasn't a war now you say it's a war
03:13:53.700that's your consistency yeah so you have to stop you can change your position you can have your
03:13:58.440cake and eat it too but i can't that's basically your entire take on this from day one this whole
03:14:03.820thing is insane first of all when i said that at the time we were six or seven or eight weeks into
03:14:08.880the conflict okay yes of course when the situation changes my opinion your support generated the war
03:14:15.740people like you that backed the republicans when trump said 99 percent of republicans supported
03:14:21.000the war you're a part of that number you emboldened his military action did you vote for trump yes
03:14:25.520twice twice then you supported the war yes i was wrong to believe in the lies of donald trump
03:14:31.860donald trump lied to me hold on andrew donald trump said no more neocon wars in the middle
03:14:36.540east is this the neocon war in the middle east that's the same thing he said to me i voted for0.98
03:14:40.840him too and you're still a cuck what do you want me to do you're still cucking for him that's what0.98
03:14:45.300you're cucking for democrats bro you're making excuses for the dear leader if you can't criticize0.99
03:14:50.640your own side it shows your coalition is weak you have no coalition you have no platform you0.92
03:14:55.640admit the republican party is controlled by the donor class but then you say to go vote so are
03:15:01.140Democrats. So are Democrats. I'm proposing we break. I'm post duopoly. Oh, OK, great.
03:15:07.840What are you going to break in? What are you going to form a party in two years? I'm 23.
03:15:11.900You're in your 50s or something. You'll be dead in like 30 years. I'll be here. I care about the0.62
03:15:16.340nation, the future of this country in a way that you're going to save. That's not going to save
03:15:19.820us from World War three that you have a party in 20 years, Rex. No, we do it now. We do it now.
03:15:25.660Oh, 2028 is insane. You are holding. No, hold on. You are holding. You are holding to 2026. I'm holding to 2028. That is my entire position. We have somebody run, have a party. You're not going to have party by 2028. That's insane. Who is the who is the part? What was the Republican Party? Crazy. In 2014, was the Republican Party the party of Trump or the party of Jeb Bush and Paul Ryan? What happened there? The party of Trump. Trump wasn't around.
03:15:51.420So what happened there? So there's a complete change from, of course, Jeb Bush to Donald Trump, a complete change from pro to antiwar foreign policy because Donald Trump had a populist takeover of the Republican Party.
03:16:02.600How could we not have that again? You deny that. You say it's impossible.
03:16:06.240Yeah. No, no, no. What I'm telling you is that you can't have a third party that's viable by 2020.
03:16:11.200I didn't say that's right. I said having a person run inside the Republican Party.
03:16:14.620You want us to vote for Democrats now and then in 2028 vote for whoever the Republican nominee is.
03:16:19.800Why not? Because, Rex, you're giving up power. You're giving up power. The Democrats are going to save us from World War Three. That doesn't follow. We need accountability, Andrew. Then tell people right now. How many pumps? How many dead soldiers? How many? Uncle Sam's railing you right now. Is it going to be 19, 20, 21 pumps, 22? How many more deaths, Andrew, will you justify?
03:16:46.920how many times do i have to say i don't support the war but you support donald trump who's doing
03:16:51.280the war that that's the whole point of the argument i don't support yes you do you support
03:16:56.100donald trump you're telling people to vote for his party rex you can't cut me off in the middle0.98
03:17:00.600of the sentence you've been cutting me off the whole time man that's bullshit it's funny the0.96
03:17:04.760thing is funny here man is like i don't support donald trump's war in iran i do support him on0.97
03:17:10.560domestic policy and the things that he's gotten done it's not a deal breaker for you think for a
03:17:15.260Second, not yet, unless there's a ground invasion.
03:17:17.540And I got to tell you, man, you're saying that there's going to be World War III and Democrats are going to save us.
03:18:15.260OK, why won't you tell people if you really believe that Democrats are going to save us from World War Three and that's the wedge issue not to vote for them in twenty twenty six?
03:18:23.840That's an insane controversy. I don't agree with that. I agree with holding the Republican Party accountable by not emboldening enabling them in twenty twenty six.
03:18:31.400Andrew, are they going to ask you? You said that they were going to save us from World War Three. Now they're not.
03:18:36.620Huh? What are we supposed to do, Andrew? Are we supposed to keep voting Republican as they send our sons and daughters off to die?
03:18:41.940what you do we already did what we could do we tried to primary out the ones that we didn't like
03:18:47.260and it was trump's nominees who got in there that's what actually happened when it was left
03:18:51.740up to the electorate the problem that you have man is that you're going to yield a ton of power
03:18:56.740a ton of power you've already yielded lunatics who have ever existed you gave it away to the
03:19:01.740party you gave it to netanyahu with your support oh yeah i gave i gave it away because i voted for
03:19:06.460the same guy it's two devils man it's two demons yeah so so so i guess you and i are both in the
03:19:11.680israeli shills then because we both voted for trump huh better get that 7 000 we'll see you
03:19:15.920after this break yeah you better get your eight
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03:19:34.140billy what kind of water do you drink why tap water of course ma says it keeps my teeth0.99
03:19:43.580sparkly white i'm sorry to say it billy but your mother is either plain ignorant0.97
03:19:48.620or worse a communist let me explain tap water used to be safe to drink but communist subversives0.99
03:19:57.180in our government introduced fluoride into our nation's tap under the guise of dental health
03:20:03.140When in reality, fluoride lowers your IQ, calcifies your pineal gland, and makes you susceptible to anti-capitalist mind viruses.
03:20:13.240So you're telling me I'm a sap if I drink tap?
03:23:19.200But I don't know what the hell that does for anybody.
03:23:20.980And I don't know what putting Democrats in office, if you really thought that that was going to void World War Three, why you wouldn't tell people to go vote for them in mass?
03:23:44.320You're setting your feet on fire to warm up your hands.0.72
03:23:46.680You're like, look, getting because what you do is you get rid of your legislative authority and you give it to progressive lunatics and they will obstruct all all legislation that you do want.
03:23:58.820That's all that they will do for two straight years.
03:24:01.680Blame that on Republicans to usher in their candidates, and they will get them in.
03:24:05.560They will be in charge, and we are going to be in a world of hurt.
03:24:21.340I agree that this was a Trump blunder.
03:24:23.100I get it, and I understand that that's now a talking point, which can be used by Democrats and progressives.
03:24:27.860Blunder implies accident. This is very deliberate. Another nation took us to war, Andrew.
03:24:33.020Well, no, blunder doesn't imply accident. It implies that you did something that you weren't stupid. It was stupid what he did. Yes, I agree. It was on purpose. I agree that he worked in tandem with Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, in order to do this.1.00
03:24:46.820The only defense that I'll even give to Trump is that I do believe that he thought that this would be over very quickly because the other conflicts that he had been involved with were, like Venezuela, for instance.
03:24:56.860He had no reason to think that it would become this expanded conflict.
03:25:00.160But that's the only defense that I'll give to the guy because many people in his administration told him that this was a bad idea.
03:25:06.880Right. So you've changed your mind, and now you call it a war.
03:25:10.580What have I changed my mind on? Can you tell me what I changed my mind on?
03:25:13.700Seven-week conflict, Andrew. Seven-week conflict. That's what you said.
03:25:16.160And how long had the conflict been going on at that time?
03:26:11.120We both agree it's a war, both of us.0.69
03:26:13.640So if that's what you know, you don't you don't you don't agree that killing the Ayatollah is an act of war, which makes it look like, well, why?0.57
03:26:20.860Why are the Iranians fighting us? They seem to think they're at war with us.
03:26:24.760Bro, what what part of we both agree it's a war?
03:26:27.320We not. No, no, no, because you did not agree on your position at the beginning was wrong.
03:26:32.840And you knew better. You knew it was a war and you said it wasn't one because you thought it could end quickly.
03:26:37.580OK, you know what? Just for the sake of getting the conversation forward.
03:27:15.400There's a million different ways to restrain the president.
03:27:17.940There's a million different ways to restrain your parties in Congress, including lobbying your own NGOs, including lobbying your own lobbyists.
03:27:26.320There's a million different ways to restrain them.0.95
03:27:28.500Your way to restrain them is, let's vote in progressive lunatics who are going to destroy the nation.0.98
03:28:30.080But the mythology aspect is the Zorro ranch.
03:28:34.340they were eating kids. They had like child bakeries there. The mythology is the Lolita
03:28:41.300Express that there was blackmail operations which were going on. And those blackmail operations
03:28:46.580were utilizing video in order to make sure that various political figures and things like this
03:28:52.680could be blackmailed essentially. So that's where the mythology aspect of it comes in.
03:28:58.580So as long as people separate mythos from what we know as fact, they don't really have a problem
03:29:03.820with it i don't even have a problem with the idea of the mythology if it's the case that people have
03:29:08.160good evidence for why it is that they believe some of the things inside of the mythology okay okay so
03:29:15.680i just want to ask you right off the rip is epstein a pedophile and was he involved in child
03:29:20.740trafficking well undoubtedly he was he was involved in child trafficking the question is
03:29:27.960was he involved in child trafficking to himself or was he involved in child trafficking to other
03:29:33.360people that's where the question comes in crew can we get really quick crew can we get the doj
03:29:38.160charges for southern district in new york uh just land maxwell punched up on the screen really quick
03:29:42.580andrew continue yeah and then the the other thing on the question of pedophilia um yeah i mean most
03:29:50.580likely i mean it wouldn't surprise me a bit if he the the way that i i understand it it's a mix
03:29:57.240between you have pedophilia and then hepiphilia and then, you know, everything after that pedophilia
03:30:04.060is classified as prepubescent children. And then hepiphilia is classified as they're like
03:30:09.700possibly post pubescent, but they're still underage. So I think that he falls in the
03:30:14.980hepiphilia category, but it wouldn't surprise me if he fell in the pedophile category as well.
03:30:20.100All right. So there's underage hijinks going around. We can kind of just leave it at that.
03:30:24.920So he's a thousand percent. Yeah. So he's so he's on record or just lands on record because she's spending 20 years in jail for conspiring to and committing child trafficking with and for Jeffrey Epstein.
03:30:36.460Like those are the charges. So for me. Yeah. To Jeffrey. When I when I hear that somebody like Michael Tracy come out there and say, oh, well, there's no evidence of this.
03:30:46.720This is a satanic panic. Basically, I look at the redactions and I say, well, if there are all these redactions for all these, quote unquote, victims who is being protected and what's being hidden in your view.
03:30:57.700Well, a lot of the redactions are coming out of victim advocacy groups, various lawsuits that are happening, and those are done through the court, which is separate actually from what Trump's powers are for redactions and even congressional power.
03:31:11.020A lot of that comes out of the courts. Tracy has some pretty good segments on this, on how the victims advocacy groups push for these redactions through courtrooms.
03:31:21.400And I kind of understand why, because if you take what happened, for instance, with Ro Khanna, when Ro Khanna doxed those various people who were on the list, and then it turns out that they weren't even involved in any pedophilia at all.
03:31:32.940It's like there's a reason why there's a lot of those redactions which are there.
03:31:37.260We have the Epstein Transparency Act, and they've been going back and forth on this based around the idea of the video and the redactions.
03:31:47.960So I would love to see it all – and this is Tracy's position too, which is interesting.
03:31:52.120He would prefer to see it all redacted and released, and so would I.
03:32:03.520Most of the redactions come from from courts, from victim advocacy groups and from various lawsuits and from people who want to protect their identity, who might be named in the Epstein files, but they themselves did nothing wrong.
03:32:17.740OK, so we kind of made or you made the pedophilia, I believe, hebephilia or whatever it's called, distinction earlier before.
03:32:26.140Pam Bondi is pre-pubescent, one's post-pubescent.
03:32:28.960All right. So I think to most people, that really doesn't matter. Like if it's under 18, it's a crime. And then someone that's that old should I agree. It's a crime. Yeah. So when you look at Epstein and you look at the redactions, it's not just the redactions, it's the three million unreleased files. What do you say about that?
03:32:45.340yeah so most of that as as this again this is the research that i've read and i've looked at
03:32:51.120both ends of it so uh pam bondy said that most of the re the redactions on video for instance came
03:32:57.960from the fact that this was mostly epstein's porn and that had been investigated and it's true that
03:33:04.580they did age play pornography but even a lot of the pictures which were leaked out where it appeared
03:33:10.260like it was a young girl um you know like perverts on the internet were like no i saw that porn it's
03:33:16.100this one and you'll see that on x they're like nope that's actually just age play pornography
03:33:20.340this type of thing so he had a pretty staunch uh porn file and then as far as the other files that
03:33:26.520haven't come out my understanding is that those fall under the same category they're like unnecessary
03:33:31.120files to send out or they're uh protected by victim advocacy groups this kind of thing
03:33:36.460Do you believe this is my understanding of it? No, I get it. Do you believe he was an international sex trafficker?
03:33:44.600I don't think that there's evidence to support that Epstein was involved in international sex blackmail operations.
03:33:52.380There seems to be a lot of evidence that he was at least tied to intelligence agencies, which doesn't surprise me because he was a banker for Rothschild and he was an investment banker for other large banking operations.
03:34:05.300So that wouldn't surprise me at all if he had intelligence links.
03:34:10.260But I haven't seen any good compelling evidence that this guy was flying children around the world for other people to have sex with and then blackmail them.
03:34:19.460And that's where the mythology part comes in.
03:34:21.580So you completely disregard all uses of coded language?
03:34:56.400The Podesta emails are not a part of Comet Pizza, and that was also a part of Pizzagate.
03:35:01.860So you're going to complain two things here.
03:35:03.300Well, no, I'm not. The Podesta emails and spirit cooking had to do with some lunatics art project, and that was conflated and tied in to the fact that Podesta was diddling kids, and then that was tied into Pizzagate.
03:35:17.520But if it's just a lunatics art project, then why are all the most powerful people involved in it, and why are they involved with pedophiles?
03:35:24.900For the same reason most elites get involved in art because it's a massive racket worth billions of dollars, and they hide their money through it.
03:35:34.940So billionaires have been doing that for years and years and years.
03:35:37.860Do you really think that they're buying a painting that was made from somebody for $50 million?
03:36:21.840And factually, it's not true. And you can be upset about it all you want. But that is, in fact, the case right now. Factually, you don't have evidence that Epstein was flying children around the world as part of blackmail operations. You don't have the evidence for it. We have evidence. You can have great suspicions. We have evidence that he trafficked children. We have evidence that he did it with Ghislaine Maxwell. She's in jail for 20 years to himself. To himself. Right. So if he did if he trafficked children to himself and he's this billionaire with all these
03:36:51.820insane connections, wouldn't it not be a crazy leap of logic to assume he's doing this with other
03:36:56.380people of images? It wouldn't be. No, of course not. It wouldn't be a great leap of logic, but
03:37:00.720there's just not any good evidence there to support it. That's the problem that you have.
03:37:05.080That's why you have to be very cautious because you can build up huge mythologies around what is
03:37:10.760called, you know, logic gaps or evidence of the gaps, meaning, look, I don't actually know,
03:37:16.580but my speculation becomes the logic and then I can make these logical leaps based on my
03:37:22.500speculation. Now we get into these are truth claims. And it's like, you can't make those
03:37:27.460truth claims because they're not true. You have to at least have the evidence to back up the truth
03:37:32.680claim or you can't really make the claim, right? You can just say I have suspicions of, if that
03:37:37.420was it, if people were like, look, I have suspicions of this. This is really weird. This needs to be
03:37:42.420followed up on. We want more answers to this. I think that that would be fine. But this has
03:37:47.260transcended that. And it is, in fact, the case that there is a psychosis, which is happening in
03:37:52.640the United States around this, where people now believe that at the top levels of government,
03:37:57.780we have people who are eating children, that they're eating their pineal glands,0.98
03:38:01.940that they're eating their sexual organs, that they're killing them and murdering them,0.98
03:38:05.860and they're essaying them. And it's like, that's a hell of a thing to say without good,0.99
03:38:10.440compelling proof man all right i take that point i can take that point i can understand it the
03:38:16.640problem is though he's on record as a child trafficker he's a billionaire he has these
03:38:21.840connections uh absence of evidence is not evidence of absence i don't believe that but that works
03:38:26.500against you too that's the same same argument i can make back it's like yeah you're right
03:38:30.840absence of evidence is not evidence of absence but the problem is is that you making the
03:38:36.340affirmative claim there's an absence of evidence and therefore that's the evidence is the same
03:38:40.780argument that's not it is it is a bit odd that the people that promised to expose everything and in
03:38:47.420the war started the wars and exposed nothing and they say well we had to do the war and then we had
03:38:52.240nothing to expose because it's all fake i guess we're supposed to just trust them well no nobody's
03:38:57.920asking you to trust them i think again just like tracy's position i would love to see all these
03:39:03.160files unredacted and released. But you have victims who don't want that to happen. They don't
03:39:09.640want it to happen. And take, for instance, a lot of these victims don't have very much credibility
03:39:14.700to begin with. A lot of it has to do with money, has to do with various victim funds that they had
03:39:21.840access to. It became a multi-million dollar industry to be an Epstein victim. So it's like,
03:39:29.100look you have also evidence to question that narrative and it's like look i love skeptics
03:39:34.760i just used to love them a lot more when they were skeptical of their own claims
03:39:38.400to their own sides claims like be skeptical of both it's fine to be like look i want the
03:39:44.040government to be more transparent i want them to release all the unredacted files i want to know
03:39:48.140what happened but you also need to be skeptical of your own claims and be like i actually don't
03:39:52.620know and you shouldn't make bold claims that at the highest level of government children are
03:39:57.520getting eaten and molested and raped by high-level government officials, and it's being covered
03:40:27.960All right. Well, Andrew, we disagree on this. I think we'll probably do another stream in the
03:40:32.280future as facts conside. Thank you for your time. The Crucible, where do they find you?
03:40:37.940Yeah, you can find me on YouTube at The Crucible. You can find me on Rumble. I do the extravaganza
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03:40:48.880fervently about many things, but I still like you, man, and I appreciate being on your show.
03:40:53.600All right. Yeah. Take it easy, Andrew. Appreciate your time. Have a good evening.
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03:45:44.980kirk's marketing strategy has never been to bash the competition and i've known about kirk for 20
03:46:07.000years and we were having dinner like three years ago he was coming on as a sponsor i said i think
03:46:10.280now it's time to get the markets i know you're right he said i really don't want to attack the
03:46:13.420other companies but i feel so bad i want to warn people that people call us up getting ripped off
03:46:17.540and i want to name names and stuff and i said whenever you're ready we'll do it but i mean
03:46:22.080it's basically everybody and and it's it's it's it makes gold and silver look bad because these
03:46:27.860people are out there doing that because the public doesn't understand it it's it's so easy folks
03:46:30.980buy gold and silver bullion at wholesale you can look every day what the price is type and what's
03:46:35.600wholesale gold and silver platinum anything you you know and then you get it from them with a
03:46:41.040little processing fee and then they buy it back for nothing with no cost that's unprecedented
03:46:45.160it's so easy there my problem is because whenever i have a sponsor you know i trust them i call up
03:46:51.500and talk to people and do it because i had a few gold sponsors come on promise and they do what
03:46:55.840kirk did and then not doing it so i just said i'm done with gold for like 14 years because the other
03:47:00.420company that was moral couldn't make money at the low cost so they shut down so i couldn't find a
03:47:04.740moral company i wasn't i said it was time to just get out of it and and i'm like the problem we can
03:47:10.520with Elliot's people, is there too low