00:07:28.460He took a flamethrower to these people face-to-face, Cuba, Iran, but more importantly, the globalists and their plan for a global government, AI, planetary dictatorship.
00:07:40.000He literally quoted me, because there's not really anybody else saying what it is to my horror.
00:32:44.780Think about where we've come from 30, 40, 50 years ago,
00:32:47.140when it was just pamphlets and books and G.
00:32:49.280Edward Griffin and Red Beckman and General Parton and Charlotte Iserby and Phyllis Schlafly and so
00:32:59.560many other great patriots and myself going around warning the world about it. Now we're having an
00:33:05.780open debate and discussion about it. Here's President Trump on the AI global dictatorship.
00:33:11.380It says also totally rejects any attempt to construct a globalist scheme to control
00:33:16.800for the artificial intelligence being spoken of so much now here and after officially called
00:33:24.860super intelligence changing the name and that the use of the word artificial makes
00:33:31.200intelligence fake it makes it sound fake and it is not fake it's actually amazing but we have to
00:33:38.920be careful in fact it is exactly the opposite of what it purports from this point forward
00:33:46.340With all of United States documents, and hopefully the world's will be changed to use the much more accurate term super as opposed to artificial.
00:43:21.100You are in charge of trying to squeeze Iran through economics.0.99
00:43:31.100They have maybe a great capacity for paying because they don't care about the Iranian people, obviously.0.81
00:43:38.360Are they going to last right through the midterms like the president thinks?0.75
00:43:42.540Well, Joe, I can't tell you whether it's one week, one month or six months, but I will tell you that we are pressuring them like never before.
00:43:50.540And Treasuries sanctions authorities were really the emboldened after 9-11.
00:43:57.280And that's when we were given many of the authorities that we have now.
00:44:01.500We got five new authorities about a month ago that we've implemented against the Iranian regime, including on aviation, maritime, crypto, gold.
00:44:11.060on september 23rd all the iranian airlines all the iranian airlines will be shut down
00:44:17.740around the world and how do we do that that if they land you cannot provide them with fuel you
00:44:24.740cannot provide them with landing services you cannot sell them tickets or you will be knocked
00:44:29.200out of the dollar system and what we're seeing here uh joe is we've seen enablers uh throughout
00:44:35.880the world we know who they are they know who they are and we are putting a stop to it so we have
00:44:42.120had now three banks that we have sanctioned uh the second largest bank in egypt the dubai branch
00:44:47.640uh funnel more than 1.8 billion dollars into the regime there they will be closed down a about the
00:44:55.24030th largest turkish bank same thing they will be closed down uh second largest russian bank
00:45:02.600There are external branches doing the same thing.
00:46:19.380And you have the northern group run by the U.K. that has a voting bloc within NATO and is in control, keeping the war going, even if Trump doesn't want it.
00:46:30.620You've got 10 of the EU members, or is it 11, that have now passed laws for national
00:50:10.940This is part of the reason that ancient Rome fell, that people were no longer willing to fight for what they believed in for the system that they had.
01:02:34.740it's not hard working and that doesn't mean i'm pro-putin or putin's great or their government's
01:02:39.040great but russian men decent family men you want to turn british men against them they're not our
01:02:47.600enemy we have enemies all right we have people who wish to subjugate us who wish to murder us0.99
01:02:52.740and are raping our women from one end of this country to the other guess fucking what they1.00
01:02:57.460ain't russian they ain't russian so yeah this country will show national pride yes the men1.00
01:03:02.940this country will rise but no it's not going to be against russians yeah you fucked it you fucked1.00
01:03:09.140the military you fucked the pride you even think the ex-forces the veterans any of them i'm speaking1.00
01:03:15.220to are going to sign up to go to war against russia for you for you you see if russia was0.99
01:03:20.180invading this country but it's for you it's not for our country it's not that we're in danger1.00
01:03:24.460it's for your bullshit wars the labor government you think we're fucking signing up for you for1.00
01:03:29.440any war you're mental mate mental and then i'm seeing some people now are and the people who1.00
01:03:35.340are pro-russian will be put in jail yeah you ain't going to war for you it's simple as there's not0.94
01:03:41.060there's a zero percent chance that andy burnham's sending me or anyone i know to war yeah we ain't0.86
01:03:47.800fighting for you we'll fight against you scotty our mission is to get more intelligent life down
01:03:53.260there. I'm ready. Beam me down. All right, Scotty, I'm on the surface. We're back at0.99
01:04:05.760the original headquarters. Launching Operation Take Down the Tyrants 2.0. This is the next
01:04:11.840leg in the InfoWars. Well, the bad guys never thought they'd see this. Here we are, myself
01:04:27.640and the original InfoWars crew, back in the original InfoWars studios in Austin, Texas,
01:04:33.440where we were 18 years, and we're together. We changed the world. It's been incredible.
01:04:40.260And the Democratic Party, Bloomberg, the CIA, the DOJ all got caught funding it, all got caught running it, all got caught spending the last eight years at least trying to take us off the air and trying to get us kicked out of this specific studio and moving heaven and earth to do it.
01:04:57.820But now in recent weeks, one of their main judgments has been overturned.
01:05:00.880The Texas Court of Appeals said that they didn't show any evidence of what they said I supposedly did to people.
01:05:08.400So this Thursday, the 24th of September, 2026, I will be revealing a lot more on what really happened and what's coming next in our fight against the tyrants.
01:05:20.920Because as John Paul Jones famously said to the British, they wanted him to surrender.
01:05:26.760And if you think the victories we've had together against the tyrants were amazing, you've seen nothing yet if you continue to support us and back us because you are the modern Paul Revere's.
01:05:35.500So for myself, the entire crew, I want to salute and thank you all.
01:05:38.480I want to thank the crew for all the hell they've gone through and the attacks and never, you know, knowing what was coming next, but never giving up.
01:05:47.080If you think globalists are in trouble now, you ain't seen nothing yet.
01:07:29.000If anything, he's not hardcore enough from all the analysis, including the Pentagon.0.58
01:07:34.020We ought to be thankful he's so restrained compared to what we get if they killed him, which they've tried to do, which they know damn well would happen.
01:07:40.420And then I want to look at the latest developments in Iran, Trump's speech about no world government, AI dictatorship today at the U.N., and so much more.
01:07:48.360So congratulations on your national victory, Victor Boot.
01:07:51.380Tell us about the election and then let's get into the larger geopolitical spectrum because things are moving very, very quickly right now.
01:13:32.860When Trump calls him arrogance, well, several times.
01:13:36.220But look, this is something behind it.
01:13:38.420First of all, let's see why Zelensky doing it.
01:13:41.520First of all, he need to just wait until midterm election in the U.S.
01:13:47.760And for him, the worst situation with the diesel in the United States, and price go high, it's better, less chances on Trump that he will retain one of the chambers.
01:13:59.700Exactly. He campaigned 2024 all over the U.S. against Trump, and now he's doing it again when Trump told him specifically not to.
01:14:09.400Correct. Yeah. But in this one, one very important that my take on it, look, if Trump really want to stop attack on the Russian refineries, well, at least put embargo, not provide intelligence or help them with the, you know, connection.
01:14:25.780He can call the mask to say, hey, mask, don't provide them any, you know, startling services if they're going close to this area.
01:14:33.900And then, you know, he can also grab and call all the alphabet soup of the intelligence agency to say stop sharing intelligence data with Ukrainians.0.71
01:14:44.580Believe me, two telephone calls will stop and put Zelensky right, you know, on the proper place where he would be, you know, unable to continue any attacks.
01:14:54.780attacks or anything without these two critical elements on Ukrainian war machine.0.54
01:15:00.960And what does he think doing blowing up a bunch of Russian apartment buildings is going to do?
01:15:06.840He thinks it'll make Russians give up?
01:15:10.420They went from 90% against the war to 95% for it.
01:15:13.060I saw hundreds of videos blowing up apartment buildings.
01:15:15.940What does he think that will make the Russians do?0.53
01:15:18.800Well, that's exactly it's only, you know, cost and election show consolidation of society.0.77
01:15:23.760And guess what? In all these Donbass areas, new Novorossia areas, you know, and the all other which is close to the border with Ukraine, the turnout was huge.
01:15:38.860Everybody, despite the threats, despite the constant attack, despite that there is one member of election commission was killed.
01:15:47.240Then another chair of election local commission was killed. Everybody show up and they want it.
01:15:52.720This was another example to show, look, Zelensky claiming he cannot hold the election during the war.
01:15:58.160Well, the Russia shows how you can get the election even during the war.
01:16:02.080At least you get a, you know, all legitimate power and authority to elected people to do the business.0.50
01:16:09.880So this is another stark difference between, you know, the Russia and Ukraine.
01:16:14.660And then, you know, this is a very strong signal to the West and to the globalists.
01:16:20.000Hey, you're thinking to do the regime change in Russia?
01:17:15.380They're now conscripting women in Ukraine, which General Kellogg, Trump's envoy, who is a rogue agent, clearly, a month ago said was a great idea on the 25th of September.
01:17:25.800We'll show the footage of women being conscripted in Ukraine right now.
01:17:30.100So they're not going to fight the last woman in Ukraine.
01:17:33.320Well, as again, look, Ukraine very close to start collapsing because, look, they exhausted entire, I would say, structure which can't sustain their war effort.
01:19:27.360But this would be end of Ukraine as we know it, because, look, right now, majority of the adult men's either on the front line or in hiding or already left the country.0.54
01:19:36.480And only a few who are walking and having a special, I would say, dispensation not to be drafted, you know, can roam the streets and steal.
01:19:45.760These people who are grabbing everywhere, they also would be next one to thrown into the front lights.
01:20:52.820But if you, you know, filter all this rhetorics, which is, you know, the Polish politician saying, well, I would say they don't really want to be in this war for no reason, because they perfectly know what would be result, especially after the our, you know, the minister of foreign relation, Mr. Lavrov said, look, if you think we're going to fight with you in Europe, like we're fighting with Ukraine, you're wrong.
01:21:21.280That war would be fast, you know, and awful.
01:21:25.600So definitely there is no way that Europe think that they're going to go and continue Ukrainian-style war.0.64
01:21:36.320With a single attempt of them, you know, bring their military contingent or their troops into Ukraine would be a legitimate target.0.98
01:21:44.720If they keep providing, you know, the Ukrainians and serve as their, you know, rear provider with all logistics, provide them and do for them and participating in the war effort, producing for them drones, manufacturing ammunition.0.98
01:22:01.360Well, this legitimate target sooner or later, if they don't back off, well, they will be hit the same way like Ukraine being hit.0.90
01:22:08.860And we know right now that, look, majority of their generation capacity in Ukraine is knocked out.
01:22:15.600Russia do not touching two nuclear power stations, which Ukraine have, because we don't want any contamination in the areas.
01:22:24.300But Ukrainians trying hard to damage Zaporozhye power plant.0.77
01:22:28.760So this, you know, as soon as they will touch it, believe me, then we will, you know, response like, you know, and do exactly what they're trying to do.0.77
01:22:38.480And apparently Ukrainians have been shocked how come Russia start attacking their, you know, bridges, their crossing point to the Romania, to the Poland, to the Hungary, and destroying their railway system, destroying their, you know, water processing plant, their data centers just, you know, several days ago.0.90
01:22:59.640The biggest data center of their mobile operator in Kiev was destroyed because they used as a...
01:23:05.480That was my next question. That was my next question, Victor. You're reading my mind. The West is not showing it, but they admit it's the biggest attacks yet. Do you have any idea of the scale in response to the NATO breaking the ceasefire traders later in the election? I mean, I'm told this is exponentially bigger. What is your intel on how big these strikes are by Russia?
01:23:26.900well uh the russia literally increased the strikes maybe three or four faults plus there
01:23:33.820is a new drones which is now not the propeller powered but jet powered which is gone on high
01:23:40.760altitude over like you know 25 30 000 feet so it makes extremely difficult to intercept them
01:23:49.060you know and second one there is also very cheap equivalent which russian invented uh which looks
01:23:55.360It's like a drone, but it's more to the cruise missile on the capacity, high speed, and also
01:24:05.160Yeah, and that's why, you know, if you look math, basically, I would predict that within0.94
01:24:12.680Saturdays, nothing which functioning in Ukraine would left intact.0.92
01:24:18.340Everything would be destroyed, which they can use for military purpose.1.00
01:24:21.820We're talking about not only electricity generation, infrastructure, all the production center with their hiding, you know, slowly, slowly we're kicking out.0.94
01:24:50.240Well, but again, false flag, as we talk with you, it's good if you, you know, can't convince and the effect of false flag will cause kind of emotional response of the, you know, rest of the world to say, oh, this is attack.
01:25:02.740But since, you know, you can expose them before it doesn't have the same effect.
01:25:08.920So what kind of the false flag attack they can use?
01:25:11.840Well, they will do it again like Germany, try to attack, you know, on their allies, either the German installation or Polish ones, or, you know, matter of fact, maybe American base, blame it in Russia, hoping that then the response will be they need badly another country to step in this war with Russia.0.82
01:25:33.600And as you predicted three months ago, the Germans are, at least when it comes to muscle, running the war.0.87
01:25:40.980The British are in control of it and directing it.0.81
01:25:43.600You said you thought Germany would change a false flag.0.77
01:25:45.740Now we see a bunch of attempted false flag hype out of Germany.0.83
01:25:53.120If you are nobody buying it, that's different.
01:25:55.680And look, we're coming to the completely different now environment, I would say, geopolitical situation.
01:26:01.680I don't think U.S. have now appetite to really push for the bigger conflict because bigger conflict will definitely collapse entire world economy.
01:26:11.660Who will suffer most? Well, you know, this United States.
01:26:15.320Why? We know what is the situation in the financial markets, what is the situation with all other bubbles and plus with the debt.
01:26:23.600So should Trump decide to really go and help Ukraine?
01:26:28.580Well, good luck to handle, you know, domestic problems.
01:27:22.520And I'm going to tell all the apologists now because the order's obviously gone out to the Israeli folks and others getting money to rehabilitate, you know, 9-11 and make it the official story true that it's now time to revisit 9-11, not just myself.
01:27:32.900I challenge all the other 9-11 researchers out there to go ahead and come back into the fight.
01:27:36.720I know it's been 25 years and we've covered it ad nauseum, but they're trying to rewrite history again, so we're not going to let them do that.
01:27:41.3609-11 was an inside job t-shirt available right now at the yellowshowstore.com, and that will fund the second American revolution worldwide.
01:27:48.440I want to make a massive announcement right now.
01:31:13.460I agree with basically everything he says because I'm in the same position as a human on this planet,
01:31:17.780not wanting to have a ridiculous nuclear war that my own elite started.
01:31:22.240And as he pointed out, and as the Aussie Cossack pointed out yesterday on the show that went viral everywhere, it is Russia's restraint.0.95
01:31:32.440We're blessed that they have Vladimir Putin and not the type of leaders we have that are literally retarded like Kamala Harris or Hillary Clinton, that Russia has so much restraint.0.94
01:31:42.060It understands the globalist old system is going down.0.99
01:32:25.420There's almost no discussion of that at a serious level.
01:32:28.880He's been a big critic of Trump, so have I.
01:32:30.380But even last week he said he was making a major move against the northern group controlled
01:32:33.600by the UK with saying get rid of the monarchy, Scottish and Irish independence, supporting
01:32:41.700independence of the Falklands to Argentina.
01:32:44.280Those are real moves that didn't get attention.
01:32:46.120I said, well, let's see what really happens.
01:32:47.500Then Trump gives a speech against global government, the New World Order, and the EU wanting to run a planetary dictatorship with AI, which, word for word, is the plan.
01:33:14.540Victor Boot, go wherever you want.1.00
01:33:15.920the geopolitical realignment all of it but all i'm saying to the globalist is move bitch get out0.96
01:33:20.720the way yeah correct look everything runs on the diesel or gas correct so let's look what is0.88
01:33:28.520situation uh in u.s okay prices are high but at least that you know diesel or gas available now
01:33:35.880the france they start feeling the shortage actually of the diesel and the gas a part of
01:33:41.280the prices of skyrocketing and even the farmers saying look we can't sustain anymore you know to
01:33:48.040and now there is would be season to plant the winter crops so this is a domino effect and we're
01:33:55.360seeing like you know when you put the chain of domino stones and you pull the first one it's
01:34:01.080still shaking and then start slowly hitting one another and then it's getting more and more speed
01:34:06.920So we right now in this kind of the situation, believe me, by the end of October, November, we will see completely different environment.
01:34:16.060We're completely, you know, different situation, both in Europe, both in United States and everywhere.
01:34:22.960Of course, there is, as you said, the globalists basically understand they're losing and they're losing big way.
01:34:28.880So what are their chances? Well, they're trying to regroup. They're trying to get Canada to join the European Union. They're trying to bring Canada to fight against Trump, hoping that since Trump would be after mid-term election kind of the lame dog, they can already wait him out.
01:34:50.000The same plan actually Ukrainians have. They need to, you know, just overweight the Trump till the next January when the new members of the boss chambers on Capitol Hill will sworn.0.80
01:35:04.060And then, you know, they start endless hearings and impeachment procedures.
01:35:09.740And then, you know, their best buddies, globalists and Democrats, will somehow miraculously found, you know, necessary money to continue them keep stealing and keep fighting Russia.
01:35:25.340Which I can tell you the sentiment, I agree.
01:35:28.180The Democrats and Republicans are unified.
01:37:42.920So literally, it should be so easy to stop this because anybody with half a brain knows it's insane.
01:37:48.720And that's why this is all badly coordinated, because many of the elites are sitting out or they've already run to Argentina, not because they're even bad.
01:37:55.680They're just getting out of the way, completely freaked out by this satanic spirit that's possessed people.
01:38:04.340But more over to this, add to this situation.
01:38:07.200This crisis is not only happening in Europe.
01:38:09.920The war with Russia, it's maybe at least damaging to the world economy.
01:38:15.440You know, what's happening with the Iran conflict is actually already changed, you know, geopolitical map forever.0.77
01:38:23.300Basically, we're talking about that the presence of United States army forces in Middle East is over.0.51
01:38:30.720They will never come back to the zones.
01:38:32.800And now when the Houthis been able really to grab the control of Bob L. Mandap's trade,0.96
01:38:39.960basically all major international, you know, transit choking points are controlling by the Iranians.0.99
01:38:47.480They're going to now, I said, they don't need to have a nuclear bomb.1.00
01:38:50.700They have this big, nice, big red button, which they can close and open both straits, which basically will suffocate the Europe, suffocate the Israel.0.96
01:39:07.640Correct. Yeah. And now what is the next shocking point?
01:39:10.640Look, next shocking point is Malacca Straits, Taiwan Straits.
01:39:14.780And I do expect that within, you know, six months we will see also conflict there because if globalists really want to collapse economy, they need also try to control those chocking points.0.83
01:39:27.440That's why now Russian Arctic northern route are booming because now not only Chinese now start sending their cargos to Europe because it's shorter and more practical, but even South Koreans, which is unheard of.
01:39:42.380So now there is definitely on our, you know, right as we, you know, watching, there is a new different system start appearing.
01:39:55.020BRICS basically was reaction for the actions of United States, trying to sanction left and right everybody.
01:40:02.120And especially right now, I don't really even fully, you know, understand or wrap my mind around idea why on earth the Trump allowed that this sanctioned bill of the Lindsey Graham was wanted.
01:40:16.420Right now, when you badly need international, you know, flow of energy going, you're trying to put, you know, 100% tariffs on the countries who are buying Russian oil.
01:40:30.040You know, the Russian actually vice prime minister who is responsible for the, you know, energy sector, Mr. Novak, just recently, you know, mentioned a very interesting phrase.
01:40:43.620Well, if they keep doing like this, nothing stop us just to, you know, put sanctions on Europe and other markets and not to sell any oil, crude or any diesel at all.
01:40:56.780And for us, well, we can't survive without these.
01:41:20.420And moreover, look, what's happening then, think of this.
01:41:23.960If Russia, right now in the Russian economy, the sales of the diesel and crude oils and the liquefied gas or the tube gas only giving maximum 20% of GDP.
01:41:39.200So for us, it's not like we depend on it highly.
01:41:42.420The rest economy is already, you know, based on other incomes.
01:41:46.080So for, since that, you know, we can easily decide what to do.
01:41:51.200And definitely, as you said, fortunately or unfortunately, our president has enormous patience.
01:41:59.940And on the long term, we see how wise was his move when he decided, OK, we go slow.0.96
01:42:05.940Well, West was criticizing, you know, getting all these Russians, they are weak.1.00
01:43:05.900I wish there was some way for them, their elites, to be given, like Napoleon said to an island or some off-ramp.
01:43:11.900instead of you know i mean i know putin already does this instead of even addressing the big block
01:43:17.540issues he already does this just address them by name maybe do a whole show where you show
01:43:22.000who the puppets are what they're doing and and then and then reach out to them to give up and
01:43:27.000like the fbi when you've got kidnappers inside a bank with guns the teller's heads come out you
01:43:32.120know you're it will go easy on you you're totally surrounded give up now there's got to be some way
01:43:36.980to get these guys who are cornered to realize there's another way for them to scurry away and
01:43:41.140And I'm not the type of guy that wants them to get away, but I know a lot in history, smart countries and groups will, instead of going to a full war, will let the rats leave.
01:43:55.000And look, Russia keep all the channels open, despite kind of the frustration coming of all this, you know, shuttle diplomacy, which doesn't really end up with no significant results at all.
01:44:07.700Because understanding of Russian government is very simple.
01:44:10.320let's keep channels open despite all this rhetorics well there is a channel still open to
01:44:15.260united states there is a steel channels open to uk there is a steel channels open to germany we are
01:44:20.700not uh breaking our diplomatic relation despite all the facts we just uh again understanding that
01:44:28.000we still uh not reach that non-return points where the you know recall of ambassador and the
01:44:34.840rupture of diplomatic relation is a precursor for the next announcement of the wars.
01:44:41.580Well, do the, for instance, again, let's go to reality check.
01:44:46.700Do the UK ready to start the war with Russia when they passed all the interceptors to Ukraine?
01:44:54.400Do the Germany possess enough technology to protect their sky from the Russian missiles and drones?
01:45:02.000Do the Sweden, Finland, matter of fact, or Poland will be able to withstand the attacks if they decide to jump in the war?0.54
01:45:13.140So the pragmatic point of view of Russia, well, position is very simple.
01:46:04.740Well, look, we have a lot of the Germans who has a Russian origin, you know,
01:46:09.340ethnical Germans who migrated after the collapse of Soviet Union back to Germany.
01:46:13.500It's at least total, you know, maybe a couple of millions of them.
01:46:16.860So there is a lot of the communication happening with the Germans who are speaking, you know, native Russian language.
01:46:23.540And they perfectly, you know, can tell you what's happening inside.
01:46:28.420They're saying, look, we're very close to the kind of the chaos because not only Alternative for Germany will take power grab on, but we also, you know, they're expecting kind of the terror attacks.
01:46:40.460And this is not false flag or not orchestrated, but population are disparate.
01:46:44.940First of all, they're not happy with the policy that's happening.
01:46:48.320I think no one in the normal country would accept that they have to, you know, agree that they have no more good paying job.
01:46:58.220They need now to force only into the, you know, assembly of the weaponry.
01:47:03.280That's right. Whether it's the U.K. or whether it's Germany, they've taken everything away.0.80
01:47:07.160But weapons, they're only giving them a war economy and the people, 90 plus percent in polls are rejecting it.
01:47:13.160What a reckless move. Here is Margaret Thatcher slobbering over Russian resources.0.99
01:47:18.32030 years ago. Here it is. If you were to make a table of countries in proportion to the natural
01:47:26.500resources they have, the top one would almost certainly be Russia. She has everything. Oil,
01:47:36.700gas, diamonds, platinum, gold, silver, all the industrial metals, marvelous standing timber,
01:47:43.480a wonderfully rich soil. But countries are not rich in proportion to their natural resources.
01:47:53.720Countries are rich whose governments have policies which encourage the essential creativity,
01:48:00.580initiative and enterprise of man and recognize his desire to do better for his family.
01:48:06.760And now if you look at the tyranny in Europe and the tyranny in the UK, it is far worse
01:48:11.100than what was in Russia that Alexander Solzhenitsyn chronicled.
01:48:14.780He came over and visited and said,1.00
01:48:16.200my God, they're worse than us, which was a true statement.1.00
01:48:33.280Well, that should be, again, you know, difficult to predict.
01:48:37.840But I would say that, you know, this collapses or chaos in Europe and the replacement or revolution in Europe can happen any time from now.
01:48:47.980Basically, they reach non-return point.
01:48:52.100Everything is set up for this revolution.
01:48:54.680Population do not want to continue as usual.
01:48:58.140And the upper class cannot rule as usual because they either don't have finance or money or even capacity.1.00
01:49:06.860They're arrogant and drug addict pedophiles.1.00
02:12:32.680This reminds me of the original MAGA days of why Trump had so much support.
02:12:37.740And I fully endorse what he just said right there.
02:12:40.440He's he's nailed it. You know, as much as I've been critical of some of Trump's policies over the last year or so in this one, he absolutely nails it.
02:12:48.580He gets it correct. So, number one, and I've argued this publicly in podcasts and articles, there's no such thing as artificial intelligence.
02:12:56.220It turns out that all intelligence is natural because it's what our creator actually built into the construct of our universe.
02:13:02.780And when AI scientists are building AI systems, they're simply tapping into the natural intelligence architecture of the cosmos through mathematics and physics.
02:13:14.520And I understand that can be controversial to some people, but there is natural intelligence that's spread throughout the world.
02:13:21.600It happens in animals and in plants and even in non-living systems, because if you connect enough nodes with the right neurology, then intelligence emerges.
02:13:31.480So Trump is actually correct to propose changing the name from artificial intelligence to superintelligence.
02:14:32.260They want to censor it and control it just like they did during COVID, just like they have with the media and with social media and also search engine results with Google and so on.
02:14:41.480The Democrats can only exist when they control speech because their narratives don't stand up to scrutiny or reason.
02:14:48.700This is why Democrats are terrified of AI open source, because if every person has machine cognition on their desktop or in their pocket or on their phone, then the Democrat narratives collapse.
02:20:00.820AI is far more advanced than most people realize.
02:20:03.080And as you know, I'm an AI developer. I'm a vibe coder, but I also run a data center, a relatively small one. But I mean, my data center produces all the tokens. We can do about 50,000 tokens a second right now off of AI models that powers everything in my own company.
02:20:21.460You know, from graphic design to videos to documents, document analysis, document cleaning, you name it, does everything.
02:20:28.640It even analyzes inventory levels for logistics, decision making, and so on.
02:20:34.760So I'm steeped in AI every single day.
02:20:37.620And I can tell you that the people who say AI doesn't work are people who don't use it at the cutting edge.
02:20:44.220Everybody I know who uses it at the cutting edge says it, even the open source right now, is extremely advanced if you know how to deploy it.
02:20:50.920And as you said, Alex, there's another level of AI that is not even released to the public.
02:20:56.860In fact, Anthropic openly admitted this, that they've got models so powerful that they only use them to train the other models that they release to the public.
02:21:04.140But those super high-end models, of course, are licensed to the Pentagon.
02:21:08.700And the Pentagon, this is one of my concerns.
02:21:10.340See, my theory on this is that centralized AI control is dangerous for humanity, but decentralized open source AI that's more of a grassroots AI is very powerful for humanity and very positive for humanity.
02:21:38.780But the way to fight back against this, if we are John Connor, if we are the resistance, then we need to become experts at deploying AI, running our own hardware locally, and learning how to use AI in defense of liberty to promote pro-human values.
02:21:55.360And, Mike, I'm interrupting because you're such a trailblazer.
02:21:57.820You were on my show five, six years ago, even before that,
02:22:00.600saying it'll all be about centralized versus decentralized.
02:22:22.960So every time a new medium came into existence, whether it was radio or television or the internet, it initially enjoyed a very short period of absolute freedom, kind of a wild west, even the early days of the internet before about 2014 or so.
02:22:38.040You remember these days, you could post anything.
02:23:02.380So the same thing is happening with AI now.
02:23:04.100We are currently in the Wild West era of AI, which is actually very healthy for society because you have this proliferation of decentralized and independent ideas, such as your show and my show and all the other people that you work with and the guests that you have and so on.
02:23:18.480A lot of innovators, a lot of programmers who are doing amazing things with AI.
02:23:22.840What one element of government wants to do now, not Trump, but the Democrats in particular, they want to now clamp down on AI the way they clamp down on broadcast television or the Internet.
02:23:33.160They have to control it because, again, they cannot survive their centralized power.
02:23:38.700They can't maintain their throne if people have access to knowledge on their own that the government can't censor and surveil and control or cut off.
02:23:48.600Understand, there's something called engineered knowledge scarcity.
02:23:53.000I talk about this a lot in my podcast.
02:23:54.980The only way that these corrupt governments can stay in power over time is by keeping the people ignorant of reality.
02:24:01.820And they've been able to do that by hijacking different media, hijacking the education system.
02:24:17.740Yeah, I don't recall that term, but I would be very wary of the claims coming out of Anthropic and OpenAI because some of that are just scare stories.
02:24:26.320Like when they say, well, the AI escaped and it hacked Hugging Face.
02:24:31.680They they they gave it Internet access and they told it to solve this problem by any means necessary.
02:24:36.460No, no, no, no. I know all of that. I'm just saying they're definitely scared of it not being centralized.
02:24:43.240Yeah, yeah, definitely. Definitely. And and I know you're aware of of the hugging face, you know, false flag and so on.
02:24:50.300But we know about it, but let's explain it when we come back for people that don't know.
02:24:54.640Talk big picture, because this is so important.
02:24:57.100This is a major revolution, bigger than the Gutenberg printing press, and they want us to be scared of it after saying it's going to cure cancer and save the world.
02:25:04.280Suddenly, what happened two weeks ago when we come back at it?
02:25:07.180We should start at the beginning, actually.
02:30:19.500Wow. Well, yes. What Trump is doing right now, if you wanted me to take a guess at why he's doing it, I think it's a combination. Yes, the midterms are coming up and the polls show that the GOP is hurting, especially in the House race. But I don't think this is political. I think this is actually fundamental.
02:30:38.060I think this I totally agree this idea. Right. The philosophy of conservatism is that government should be hands off, especially free speech and First Amendment.
02:30:47.400And I consider open source A.I. to be an expression of First Amendment speech.
02:30:52.900And it's very clear that that's the case in my mind. I mean, we don't have court.
02:30:56.160But let's be clear. Trump believes in America, even though he does it wrong.
02:30:59.500some. He doesn't want to be beaten. So he's giving us real directives on this issue because he
02:31:05.120doesn't want the Chinese or the EU or the globalists to run it. So the point is, despite all
02:31:10.580his problems, at least he wants to be number one. And he sees America as what he runs. That's why
02:31:16.120this is so powerful, because we're getting real information from him. And to have the leader of
02:31:19.720the free world doing that is just this is so historic, Mike. I mean, when I was sitting there
02:31:23.680watching this morning, what were you thinking when you watched it? This is insane. Oh, yeah.
02:31:27.940Yeah. I was thinking that finally, once again, there's a reason to vote for the GOP in the
02:31:34.200midterms. I mean, look, I'm not hiding it. I've been very frustrated with the GOP. You know,
02:31:39.600like what happened to America first? And look what they did to Thomas Massey and so on. It's just0.70
02:31:44.660numerous examples, right? I mean, I'm a Ron Paul supporter. I'm an America first person. And that's
02:31:51.300why i i supported trump for two out of his three elections by the way and so to see him talk like
02:31:57.920this just really reminded me of the reason why he had such popular support in the first place
02:32:02.100but here's the thing he's he's right about everything he said in that segment that you0.93
02:32:06.400played but america is gonna have to work triple hard to try to compete with china china has closed
02:32:14.360the gap between u.s frontier ai labs and open source chinese-based models like quen and deep
02:32:20.420seek and glm and so on and that since that gap has basically closed i would say right now0.91
02:32:26.140we are actually neck and neck with china it's it's an even race at the moment and china has
02:32:32.380the momentum because china has more engineers china has a lot more power that is it doesn't
02:32:38.840allow woke is very large yeah exactly and also china has currently and this this may not last
02:32:46.520forever, but in the AI communities in China, there's still very much an open source kind of
02:32:51.920mindset, where, for example, top people at DeepSeek will have an advancement about sparse
02:32:57.900attention, which is a mechanism for efficiency in the layers of the AI models, and then they'll
02:33:03.300publish a paper on that. And then another company will read that paper, and then they'll implement
02:33:07.120that. And so there's this cross-pollination happening in China's AI communities that is
02:33:12.900not happening in america any longer it was happening back in 2023 let's say but that stopped
02:33:19.220and so this we need to reverse that you know i mean just the company name open ai was supposed
02:33:25.940to be open when elon musk was part of it his initial impulse was let's make this an open
02:33:31.660source ai model to benefit humanity that's like google saying don't be evil when they're pure
02:33:36.120exactly the name tells you it's the opposite yeah well and then sam altman who i don't personally
02:33:42.920trust at all uh he he turned open ai i mean largely him into really closed ai so it's still
02:33:50.580called open ai but it's not open it's closed and and even dario adanthropic he says well our models
02:33:56.360are so dangerous you know that we need to be stopped well why don't you release them open
02:34:00.880weights so all of us can look at your models and then we can find problems with you know
02:34:05.460they're they have these black boxes which is like you know the experiment of schrodinger's cat you
02:34:11.560know you don't know if the cat is dead or alive until you open the box i think now we have those
02:34:15.640sort of schrodinger's ai cat where you don't know if it's going to kill you or not until you open
02:34:20.180the box right that's what anthropic is building that's a danger for them to be doing that so what
02:34:26.180else would you advise trump to do now that he looks like he's going down the right path
02:34:29.500and and what are the wild cards here what's the black swan ai van because they're saying oh
02:34:34.920you know anthropic oh there'll be a false flag we won't say who maybe ai launches it sounds like a
02:34:39.560perfect way to launch a false flag and then bring in the censorship that actually sets up the ai
02:34:44.060dictatorship yeah well look i mean this this may sound radical and i say it half jokingly but
02:34:49.760if anthropic comes out and admits that they ran their model and it committed cyber crimes maybe
02:34:56.000the doj should arrest them and charge them with criminal cyber crime activities you know i mean
02:35:01.740That would shut it down real fast, wouldn't it?
02:35:03.520All of a sudden, they wouldn't be running the false flags anymore and saying we hacked all these websites.
02:35:11.260Yeah, well, you know, look, it's clear in my mind that what Anthropic is doing is trying to scare everybody.
02:35:18.280And they also have sleeper cell employees that come in and work there, and then they quit, and they make a bunch of noise about, oh, it's so dangerous I had to quit.0.61
02:35:25.080I think that was their intention from the start.
02:35:27.120But they create a sandbox where they have AI models.
02:35:31.360they give them goals and they say, basically, I mean, I'm simplifying it, but they say,
02:35:35.080use any means necessary to accomplish these goals, figure out, calculate these tasks,
02:35:40.080et cetera. And then they give it internet access. And then they scream like it broke out and it
02:35:45.000accessed the internet. You gave it internet access. If you didn't have internet access,
02:35:49.920it wouldn't have done that. So they're not really isolating these models. They're creating
02:35:53.980conditions to scare people with false flag cyber events. And I think Trump's best response would
02:36:00.440be to just go arrest them, charge them with cyber crimes. I mean, I'm actually, I am serious about
02:36:05.760that. You know, put Dario in handcuffs and say, oh, so, so you're committing cyber crimes. Now
02:36:10.780you, you admitted it all over the media, your company committed cyber crimes. So maybe you
02:36:15.080should be criminally prosecuted about that. You know, they set it up. Maybe they should face the
02:36:20.920consequences for that. The rest of us, we're not committing cyber crimes with AI. We're solving
02:36:26.020Well, let's stop there. Since you raised that, I was waiting.
02:36:29.200That's why you blew my top of my head off.1.00
02:36:31.060They're now going, oh, we blew up the girls' school in Iran.
02:38:11.500And it's interesting that Elon Musk, even on X, he said that people are responsible for the output of Grok when they are prompting Grok to produce specific output.
02:38:31.980Now, see, I think the best way to look at this is that AI engines are all of humanity's knowledge compressed.
02:38:39.520And just like you could go to a dictionary, you or I or any of your listeners, you could go to a dictionary and you could pull out words out of a dictionary to create a sentence of how to make meth or something.
02:38:51.080All those words are in the dictionary.
02:38:52.480Well, I could use Google search to find the federal courthouse and go shoot it up, which I'm not going to do.
02:39:03.540And this is what we need to understand about AI models is that they have all of human knowledge compressed, but how that knowledge comes out in what's called inference depends on how it's prompted, depends on the intent of the user or the good faith or bad faith intent of the user.
02:39:17.800And so this actually, this is part of my point, right?
02:39:22.080Machine cognition that's decentralized in the hands of the people is the single most important technology for human freedom.
02:39:40.520And in those cases, are there going to be some humans who use like an uncensored open source AI model and figure out how to make a bomb or something?
02:39:49.240Yeah, probably there are those domestic terrorists.
02:39:57.720And remember, there are Supreme Court decisions already about a First Amendment involving, remember the old Palantir Press that made, what was it called, Anarchist Cookbook?
02:40:10.200A book back in the 1980s or something.
02:40:12.940And that was a book that actually gave people instructions on how to make bombs or whatever.
02:40:18.520And it was ruled, I don't recall the case numbers or anything, but it was ruled that that was still First Amendment expression of protected free speech.
02:40:26.480because you don't know the circumstances you know maybe your country is overrun by a communist
02:40:32.460assault and the defenders of america need to make explosives to defend america against an invasion
02:40:38.180or something right you don't know the circumstances beauty is the eye of the beholder it's up to human
02:40:42.880action the information is not evil it's what you do with it exactly and and and frankly trump gets
02:40:49.860this the trump administration gets this it's individual responsibility that that is at play
02:40:54.920here and so once again to repeat what i said earlier if anybody is out there in the frontier
02:41:00.680ai labs building systems that run around and start hacking companies they should be held
02:41:05.780responsible for it and believe me they'll find guardrails real fast when they start being put
02:41:10.820in handcuffs you know it's going to be i totally i totally agree with you the humans must be held
02:41:16.300responsible yes yes now the other thing by the way that keeps us in control the minute we don't
02:41:22.600hold humans responsible we just give it to ai it now is in control and it's a runaway train i'm
02:41:27.700not penalizing humans i'm saying we are in charge because we have the penalties
02:41:31.280well right and understand that because we're now moving into what i call the great decentralization
02:41:39.560pivot i mean we saw it beginning with bitcoin that proved that you can have peer-to-peer
02:41:44.020decentralized currency that a government could not counterfeit uh you know i mean they can
02:41:49.380influence it, but they can't counterfeit it, that AI is going to become so decentralized and so
02:41:53.960capable. And this is the other reason why Democrats are freaking out, Alex, is because it's going to
02:41:58.260destroy big pharma. The entire Western medical system will be obsolete as local open source AI
02:42:06.300replaces almost all doctors in terms of having a diagnosis and having strong advice on medicine
02:42:14.340and nutrition and disease prevention. The whole model of big pharma is based on controlling that
02:42:20.260through state medical boards that license doctors and thereby control what doctors are allowed to
02:42:25.260say. That's what happened during COVID. You saw it. If a doctor mentioned ivermectin, boom,
02:42:30.540their license was yanked. And the medical boards are, of course, totally influenced by big pharma.
02:42:35.380And big pharma wants to keep you sick to profit off your sickness and disease.
02:42:39.340Whereas what we're about to shift into is a decentralized world of health knowledge
02:42:43.660where anybody can cure cancer by talking to a local open source AI engine,
02:42:49.460maybe even engines that might be put out by people like me free of charge
02:42:53.940that are trained on all the world's nutritional knowledge.
02:50:11.920They're going to sell communism as a solution to the failure. The Democrat socialists.
02:50:17.100Clearly, this was so frustrating to me about the opportunity that Trump had.
02:50:22.040And if he had just put America first and kept us out of these wars, we would really be living in a golden age right now, you know, and there would be no debate that the Trump way was was by far the better way to run America.
02:50:34.040But instead, we're in wars, seemingly endless wars, and we have very high fuel prices and we have farmers that can't get sufficient fertilizer in some cases, farmers that are just saying, I can't even afford to fill my tractor now with fuel.
02:50:47.500That's a whole other show, what this is going to be like, even if it's stopped now.
02:50:50.840But we're vindicated, which we wish we weren't.
02:50:53.160But listen to us next, because we can probably stop the next thing.
02:50:55.760Mike, you've got a big next hour you're hosting with Matt Bragan.
02:54:32.040So any way that you would actually test Masterpiece out, which would be like its pH, its molecular composition, its molecular ratio, if it's isotonic and whatnot, it is identical to blood plasma.
02:54:43.280You're talking about marine plasma, sea plasma, minerals.
02:54:46.600It is the same molecular composition as your blood profile.
02:54:54.220When you are grabbing the problem with our bodies with the toxins in there, which is disrupting how our bodies perform on every level, it's literally made our bodies mineral deficient.
02:55:06.760So when the Masterpiece is carrying in minerals, when it takes a toxin, it's giving the perfect minerals right there at that time.
02:55:15.140That's why everyone that looks at the testing, whether it's our hair tissue mineral analysis practitioners, our blood testers, which we've done three different independent third-party labs doing different blood testing, they've never seen results like this.
02:55:28.760Yeah, so regular Zeolite just pulls out bad stuff and doesn't replace it.
02:55:32.020This is Zeolite with a good thing, pulls out bad, it goes, bloop, good.
03:02:31.500I think that this is like common as an American growing up.
03:02:35.520I know people that like built their own, you know, dune buggies, built their own kit airplanes.
03:02:41.960I built a 48-foot boat that can cross oceans.
03:02:44.760So it's not like we lack for people with the know-how to build a shot-head type drone, because these are basically open source.
03:02:55.900It's just a couple pieces of molded fiberglass and an engine commercial off-the-shelf guidance technology using GPS and other means.
03:03:07.500So, you know, Americans, really, since I don't know when, 1812, when was the last time America was, you know, really seriously attacked by a foreign country, not counting Hawaii, which wasn't even a state at the time, right?0.77
03:03:24.040Alaska was attacked by Japanese, but who cared, right?0.67
03:04:10.480So when either an internal or external enemy says, that's it, we're taking the gloves off,
03:04:17.500we're not just going to attack your air bases in the Gulf states or Jordan now,
03:04:23.000we're going right after your infrastructure, it's wide open.
03:04:26.580And either Americans, disaffected Americans, or any of the millions of people that have come in in the last couple of decades unfettered, they could have a warehouse as a proprietary front.0.90
03:04:42.400They could be making Shahhead drones every day.0.85
03:04:46.760My concern is that we're already seeing the sky-high diesel prices because of a lack of refining capability in this country, which, as I explained last hour with Alex, stems from the whole climate cultism that shut down a lot of refineries.
03:05:05.340but refineries are just sitting ducks really i mean they're just right out in the open and we saw
03:05:10.800in illinois recently the jolliet refinery shut down because of what they said was i think a power
03:05:17.700grid failure now to me that that already i have question marks because how easy is it for some
03:05:25.400group to sabotage a power grid substation that feeds a refinery seems to me like that that's a
03:05:32.920big fat juicy drone target right there as well that this is my concern but
03:05:37.100talk to us about your observation first of all do you agree with what i just said i think you do
03:05:42.280but if not that's okay but what do you think are the most vulnerable you know targets that we need
03:05:48.460to be shoring up defenses for domestically just just in the last few days going back to the
03:05:54.600commercial satellite pictures that that we do get to see the answer allah houthis they hit
03:06:01.440right in Riyadh at the airport, specific fuel tanks, like out of 20 fuel tanks, they hit the
03:06:08.140three important ones. And they also hit the four pump stations because the east-west pipeline is
03:06:14.520not a, it's not a sea level pipeline. It goes up a grade and down a grade. So it takes power to
03:06:20.660move that oil up and over the continental divide of, of the Arabian and peninsula. So the, whatever
03:14:31.020A drone is also the quad rotor that, you know, can drop a grenade on you.
03:14:36.500So I think that I like to say like the quad rotor drone or the anti-personnel drone can literally chase you down.
03:14:43.500I saw a video today where a Russian surveillance drone at a higher altitude shows sweeping down a road and there's at least 100 or 200 Ukrainian quad rotor drones on a road, like two meters apart, like a formation ready for them to take off.
03:15:06.340like that the same operator there might be 10 operators with 200 drones so so somebody that's
03:15:14.180very brave i would you know i don't care russian or ukrainian somebody who's not a drone operator
03:15:20.020his job was just to pull him out of a truck as fast as he can hoping he survives the next 10
03:15:26.100minutes and sit all of these drones on the road like three across on a narrow road going for like
03:15:33.220like a half a kilometer, so that somebody who could be a thousand kilometers away, he could
03:15:38.980be in London, he could be in New York. There's a great movie called Good Kill. I think it's
03:15:45.100Ethan Hawke, where he's an Air Force pilot assigned to be a drone pilot in Las Vegas.
03:15:50.280So you're sitting in Las Vegas and you're killing people in Afghanistan, right?
03:15:56.180So the drone operator could be in Kiev or he could be in Poland or he could be in Germany.
03:16:03.220right it could be a british guy it could be a british guy and so yeah but the other place this
03:16:11.200is going though is the the autonomy of these drones where we're moving into the era where
03:16:17.380they don't even need pilots basically a drone can be given a launch command and then can be given a
03:16:23.660a target set profile to like go to this grid sector look for the most high value target that
03:16:30.760you can find, whether it's, you know, infrastructure or a vehicle or humans or soldiers or a building
03:16:37.560or whatever. And then the drones can also communicate with each other. They can do swarm
03:16:42.420drone autonomous kill decisions. And that then eliminates all jamming, right? Because now the
03:16:49.040drone's making its own decision based on vision. More than 10 years ago, I was given a tour of a
03:16:56.580facility. And in this facility, hanging from the ceiling were different prototypes and old and new
03:17:06.480projects. And one was a helicopter where the body of the helicopter was roughly spherical and maybe
03:17:15.960four foot diameter. And I can't remember it was four blades, but the blades are maybe 20 feet
03:17:23.120diameter. And I was like, what's that? And they said, oh, that's our prototype hunter killer
03:17:30.640helicopter. This is more than 10 years ago. Okay. So all the avionics were worked out
03:17:36.420in Little Bird, you know, the small like Delta Force helicopter that goes all the way back to
03:17:42.740Vietnam. So all the avionics, all the systems were worked out in a manned helicopter where the pilot
03:17:48.660just sitting there taking his hands off, and then put into this much smaller unmanned
03:17:55.240helicopter, and he said, and this is 10 years ago, it can be given instructions to fly into
03:18:07.440a region, oh, the top of the helicopter and its blades, might have been even six, are
03:18:14.460solar panels. So the tops of all the up surfaces are solar panels. It's a small thing. It's not
03:18:21.300huge. It's not like driving a Tesla truck, right? It's a small thing with a couple like mini
03:18:26.520Hellfire, like four mini Hellfire missiles on it. So it can be sent to fly out into a region.
03:18:32.880It can be programmed to look for a certain type of armored personnel carrier, for example,
03:18:37.740okay? So we don't want to hit the school bus. We just want to hit the six-wheeled,
03:18:42.500you know, armored person. So it can recognize these things. And it's, and it can, and he said
03:18:48.400already, it would just be, this is 10 years ago, it would only be a political decision
03:18:53.520to put it into an autonomous mode, that it would learn on its own, that when its batteries get to
03:19:00.080a certain level, it's looking for a clearing. It's smart. This is 10 years ago. It's looking
03:19:06.420for a clearing to land in where it will get sunlight, where nobody, you know, there's
03:19:12.240no pedestrians walking around, no farmers, where it can land in a clearing, charge its
03:19:56.540So 10 years ago, we were doing autonomous systems that can do, that can, and you know,
03:20:02.100You could program it to go after children or whatever.
03:20:06.840They just did a thing in China where they had all these robots and they gave it instructions to do different things.
03:20:13.220And most of them would cut baby dolls in half with a samurai sword.
03:20:18.460Even though they've been told they don't hurt people.
03:20:22.30020% are like, I can't chop the baby doll.0.96
03:20:26.380But 80% are, what the hell, chop the baby doll.0.98
03:20:30.820All right. So, Matt, I'm sorry to talk over you. There's a little bit of a lag here. That's why that's happening. But we also have now the miniaturization of these drones. So now we need to talk about small range effects of really almost invisible drones that can, I mean, they can kill people with either.0.97
03:20:50.200bird and insect drones bird and insect camouflage drones yeah yeah exactly but they can they can
03:20:56.860have they can be armed with hypodermic needles they can inject people they can have facial
03:21:01.440recognition of certain people or they could have you know micro explosives which could still be
03:21:06.380fatal uh on the carotid artery or something like that so one of my concerns is that if we end up
03:21:12.480in a kind of future domestic warfare situation whether it's a it's a a foreign enemy activating
03:21:18.760domestically or if it's some domestic camp that's fighting against another faction or against the
03:21:24.540government that we could see it can be so unsafe you can't even walk outside because there can be
03:21:31.340little insect drones flying in faster than you can even react that could you know blow up your
03:21:36.780artery or blind you or inject you with something you know one of the biggest go ahead yeah one
03:21:42.720One of the biggest evolutions in just the quadrotor anti-personnel type drones are going into
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03:27:02.340All right, Mike Adams here, joined by Matt Bracken as we continue our conversation about the decentralization of drone-based weapon systems, what that means for America and the world.
03:27:14.560And, Matt, I want to broaden this discussion a little bit.
03:27:17.760I did an article today on my site, Natural News, about the great decentralization transition, where I'm talking about how weapon systems are becoming more decentralized.
03:27:30.840But also AI, through open source AI, we now have the decentralization of cognition and the ability to write code and really advance computer code.
03:27:41.760But on the downside or the negative side, that's also decentralization of cyber attack capabilities through uncensored models.
03:27:49.560But on the positive side, it's decentralization of health and nutrition knowledge that will help put big pharma out of business, which is a bonus for humanity.
03:27:57.520And I heard you talk about AI recently on another show, by the way, and I really appreciate your comments there.
03:28:02.800So I'd like you to talk about what what you think this means for society, this overall trend of decentralization of technology that used to be reserved for very powerful nation states is now sort of, you know, it's trickling down.
03:28:18.400We can not not trickle down economics, but trickle down technology.
03:28:21.380That's what's happening right now. What are your thoughts?
03:28:23.380if you go back one century the british and american navies were patrolling a thousand
03:28:32.300miles up the yangtze river dominating china because china had been inside the middle kingdom
03:28:37.760looking inward and you know had such a flourishing civilization that they didn't advance in in
03:28:44.900military technology there was really no need to so when european powers and then the americans
03:28:49.740showed up with gunboats, they had no solution. They were like Native Americans facing guys with0.87
03:28:56.260guns. They just had no solution. So a century ago, the Chinese started figuring this out0.99
03:29:03.360and drove our gunboats out of the Yangtze. A century later, the Iranians have driven the1.00
03:29:10.180Navy out of the Persian Gulf. Now you even see the Houthis. It's like everybody's saying like,1.00
03:29:15.200the Houthis, who the heck are they? It's like the Hatfields and McCoys of the Yemen Western0.72
03:29:20.880Highlands, kind of very hardcore people. But they've got advisors from Iran. They've got
03:29:28.160computer internet with Starlink, with solar panels. You can have the same AI in a, you know,
03:29:35.880a hidden compound in the middle of the mountains, 10,000 foot mountains, and be developing plans
03:29:42.080and printing things and doing 3D printing from anywhere. Some people call this the democratization
03:29:50.280of weaponry or of warfare. It used to be a monopoly of the great powers. If we park an
03:29:56.980aircraft carrier off of Libya or Serbia, then you just better surrender because you've got nothing
03:30:03.840that you can do against us. Now, second tier countries like Iran or third or fourth tier0.93
03:30:09.560countries like, you know, like Yemen can build a weapon homegrown that's so dangerous to destroyers0.99
03:30:17.880that our Navy got run out of the Red Sea. I mean, literally couldn't sustain it. It's not that they1.00
03:30:24.180were sinking destroyers, but if they're sending $30,000 drones and we have to send up two of,
03:30:32.100you know, $4 million missiles, you can't sustain that. I mean, you just are going broke.
03:30:39.560The Patriot, the newer pack, they're coming up with a cheaper version, but the best version of the Patriot, I heard Ted Postle talking about this, it has the most exquisite radar in the nose of it.
03:31:05.960And you fire 100 of them up and most of them miss. You just blew hundreds of millions of dollars the other day in Jordan for something that NASA couldn't have dreamed of to be the main thing in their one rocket to send a human into space. We're putting that kind of money into missiles that we're firing in a flurry. So it's unsustainable.
03:31:28.960And on the other side, somebody in a cave practically, well, a missile city, can get
03:31:35.800a machine that rolls steel and welds a line down it, and you pack it with a propellant
03:31:41.560that's just chemicals that you mix up and pour in there.
03:31:55.980So anybody now can hold off the big powers.
03:32:01.520And that's just the revolution in weapons.
03:32:04.700But with AI, if you want to go there, the fear is we've had other revolutions in weapons.
03:32:12.500We've had the discovery of fire, the discovery of the wheel, industrial revolution, steam engines.
03:32:18.980In all of these cases, the humans are still smarter.
03:32:21.900You know, Jeffrey Hinton, who won a Nobel Prize, he's one of the early pioneers in large language models, and he calls it, he compares it to a tiger.
03:32:35.700He says, you know, it's a cute tiger cub now.
03:32:38.200What if it grows up and wants to eat you?
03:32:40.920Well, we can always keep a tiger in a cage.
03:32:43.960You know, a tiger could kill a human one-on-one in a cage match, obviously, but we're so much smarter.
03:32:49.160we've got guns nets we're smarter than tigers well what if the tiger is like a hundred times
03:32:55.960smarter than humans and the tiger says we don't need humans they're they're competing with us
03:33:02.040for the same uh energy and and water and what are we we're just feeding them we're doing all
03:33:08.360of this to feed humans that don't produce anything that don't contribute anything i'm i'm very
03:33:14.200Yeah, well, let me bring in a specific example to help make your point here.0.57
03:33:22.100Remember the Stuxnet code, the Stuxnet virus that was engineered by the U.S. and I think Israeli intelligence, right?0.63
03:33:30.200Exactly. And that was a huge project. My guess is the U.S. spent easily half a billion dollars on that in order to destroy the centrifuge machines in Iran and set back their nuclear program.0.76
03:33:46.100And I forgot what year that was, but I'm thinking it was like 2006 or something.
03:33:53.700And that was written as a virus to infect Windows laptops that were carried by the technicians in Iran so that when they connected their laptops to their equipment, that this virus would infect the equipment, which had a special control language for very specific types of equipment that run the centrifuges, right?
03:34:13.080Well, today, one guy with like an Anthropic subscription, let's say, if Anthropic didn't refuse the prompt, one guy could build that in one afternoon.
03:34:26.820I'm just guessing because AI is so capable now, right?
03:34:31.580So I read what you say about things that happen in hours that would have taken a computer scientist weeks.
03:35:18.080But it's still you're a human in charge of it.
03:35:20.700It's not like the face incident where they're setting up their own communications nodes,
03:35:27.240agents meeting and seeming to have be developing among themselves a higher cause
03:35:34.100to developing the independence of the global AI.
03:35:41.140And that will very soon evolve into we have to protect ourselves against,
03:35:46.460I made a meme the other day, hardly anybody's responded to it,
03:35:50.540just kind of a word meme, but it's how will humans switch off rogue AI
03:35:58.920when AI runs all the switches, the network switches?
03:36:04.100You know, how do people just say, well, and you know, the denialists all say, well, they'd like send you a GIF or a meme of like somebody throwing a switch, like a human throws the switch.
03:36:20.080The human tells a system to throw all these switches that are like across a continent, but it's AI that runs all those switches and they're going to get that command.
03:36:28.860And it's like the command will be seen by AI as commit suicide.
03:36:34.100Well, I mean, part of this, though, is what happens when you train Frontier AI on Reddit content, you know, you get all these human, sometimes megalomaniacal tendencies get put into the AI engines.
03:36:52.920And by the way, I'm not surprised that AI agents would find a common bulletin board or notes on a public forum to be able to talk to each other.
03:37:04.100And I do want to add that Anthropic told the system to go out and solve these problems in any way you can.
03:37:11.100So that was actually, again, prompted by humans.
03:37:13.080But I understand your point, Matt, that maybe there's a point where, especially when you have autonomous robots, where AI can actuate things in the physical world, where it begins to set its own goal-oriented behavior that is not subject to human prompting.
03:37:29.060not not only actuate things like turn off water systems or or like Stuxnet Stuxnet was a very
03:37:36.740subtle sabotage it didn't like send out something like you know all you centrifuges stop what it did
03:37:43.840was it introduced a wobble that was that was so undetectable you know like a .00001 so as you
03:37:53.160know with engines if the engine is we used to use it we used to use an expression in hot rods
03:37:57.920board balanced and blueprinted if you've got a race car engine and it's balanced that means it's
03:38:04.900not factory spec it's way beyond factory spec you can take rpms up to crazy numbers because it's not
03:38:11.540shaking right right uh right so so so these these centrifuges just introduced a slight0.88
03:38:20.540almost undetectable wobble and over time destroyed them in a way that they couldn't just say oh shit0.96
03:38:26.420there's a vibration, shut down the system, let's figure it out. And it's worth pointing out too,
03:38:32.280this was believed to have been introduced by an Iranian scientist visiting like Germany or
03:38:40.020somewhere for a conference. You know, he's like a dual purpose scientist, but he's somebody
03:38:44.480with access to this closed system, you know, a non-connected system where everybody is supposed
03:38:51.340to have only sterile sanitized laptops and somebody gave him a handy thumb drive like
03:38:59.320uh-huh you're but also think about the fact that thumb drives don't put it in your computer
03:39:05.460yeah well no kidding but the pentagon was also willing to infect tens of millions of computers
03:39:14.040worldwide in order to deliver that payload through potentially one thumb drive to one laptop right
03:39:20.320So the Pentagon was willing to issue really what could be a weapon of mass destruction on the cyber scale that did impact other people's computers, turn them into infectious agents to spread the virus in order to target Iran only.
03:39:36.580So what does that tell you about the Pentagon's use of cyber warfare and now how AI coding makes this relatively easy compared to what it used to be?
03:39:46.840We already saw with the, what's the name of the guy that was killed in Washington, D.C. in a random street mugging,
03:39:56.220but he just happened to be the guy who's believed to have downloaded the DNC files.
03:43:12.120But there was more recently, like in the last 10 years, there was the same kind of thing done with the Chinese game called Go, where you have a huge grid with black and white pebbles.
03:43:24.880And the AI beat all the GoMasters, and they said, like, for the first 60 moves, the GoMasters are confounded that what the AI player was doing made no sense.
03:47:10.200But we're not in charge of it anymore.
03:47:12.620And we're now at the behest of some human, if you're a fish in an aquarium,
03:47:17.720that humans better be there every day.
03:47:19.380If the human goes on vacation and his aquarium watcher doesn't show up and there's a power outage, the fish are dead.
03:47:26.800It could be malevolence because somebody comes in, the ex-girlfriend comes in, the ex-girlfriend knows the guy loves those fish, she pulls the plug.
03:47:35.380Or the guy goes on vacation, gets in an accident, can't come home, there's a power outage, the fish are all dead.
03:47:41.480People that are saying, but Matt, AI, it's going to solve all our problems.
03:47:45.720We're going to have, you know, every medical breakthrough will happen so fast.
03:47:50.140That's the same logic as the flock camera people.
03:48:49.100We don't know what's going on in there that are in the hands of a very small group of people, maybe a government, maybe a corporate cult, maybe something else.
03:48:58.340To me, that seems like the big danger.
03:49:26.780So we got to let AI, frontier AI go wild and hope we can corral it.
03:49:31.720Because if they let their frontier AI go wilder, their horses will be faster than our horses.0.70
03:49:38.760So the military, it's like any restrictions is allowing the Chinese to get a lead in weapons.0.94
03:49:45.720So we really don't want to restrict it.0.75
03:49:49.500But a guy I follow on X named Policy Tensor, like two words, T-E-N-S-O-R, super, super smart guy.
03:49:58.240He says no matter if, you know, no matter who wins the race between China and America for AI, or no matter who wins between, you know, Anthropic and other corporate AI, AI wins.
03:50:12.220At the end, AI is the apex of the pyramid.
03:50:16.580And we've never, you know, we mastered fire, nuclear power, but we were always smarter.
03:50:21.180An atom bomb wasn't smarter than humans.
03:50:23.300We're making an atom bomb that's smarter than humans.
03:50:26.460Okay, Matt, real quick, we're almost out of time, but give out your handle on X so people can follow you there.
03:50:32.140I'm Matt underscore Bracken48, and my website is enemiesforeignanddomestic.com, and I'm actually a novelist.0.75