The Alex Jones Show Live - FULL INTERVIEW： Former Counterterrorism Head Joe Kent Joins The Alex Jones Network Live On-Air

00:00:00.000 In the lead-up to the 12-day war in Midnight Hammer, we had a really robust debate because the president does actually have, if he would use it, although it's being thinned out every day, a really diverse cabinet.

00:00:10.660 And so the deputies' committees process we were doing, the National Security Council process that we were doing, that was really robust.

00:00:16.660 After Operation Midnight Hammer, his circle really shrunk.

00:00:19.900 You've got it right there on the screen.

00:00:21.400 That's kind of who he has around him in general.

00:00:23.140 um and obviously if he would just stick his head up and look at the results that he's getting he

00:00:27.780 would see that you know what he was promised is not what has been delivered and so why he's not

00:00:32.940 being more critical and bringing in more advisors um i honestly that part i don't know i was around

00:00:39.280 the president enough i mean i wasn't primary cabinet so i wasn't with him every five minutes

00:00:43.020 but you know i had a good deal of exposure to him he he's not senile he's still very much with it

00:00:48.340 he's still very sharp that's why again okay a lot of times when people ask me what's going on i'm

00:00:53.060 like you know it is a head scratcher if there was a military solution right now if the pentagon

00:00:58.040 could come in with a cohesive plan that says if we bomb destroy kill x y and z we're out of this

00:01:05.960 thing he would have done it he would have done it months ago and this whole thing would be over

00:01:09.640 it's pretty evident there's no military solution when we went in to go recover our fighter pilots

00:01:15.400 we got a real we got a taste and we got very lucky thankfully we didn't lose anybody but we

00:01:19.760 got a taste of how hard it would be to actually do boots on the ground. We attempted some goofy,

00:01:24.820 we're going to arm the Kurds. Nobody, I guess, consulted a map to see how small the Kurdish 1.00

00:01:29.740 territory is compared to the rest of Iran. So there's no military solution. There's no boots

00:01:33.740 on the ground solution. If the Israelis could do some great intelligence coup, they would have done 0.98

00:01:37.180 it by now. So our military efforts have reached their limit. That's obvious to the president. 0.88

00:01:42.180 The diplomacy track, we continue to insert these poison pills. And the Iranians have been very 1.00

00:01:47.360 up front about what the poison pills are and why they're not going to give up and acquiesce because 0.95

00:01:52.640 they feel that they're militarily winning and they're winning by not losing they can expend

00:01:57.440 very little resources and they can shut down the straight support moves etc so basically it's like

00:02:02.320 mr president you are out of other options right now you can you can control for now you can control

00:02:08.160 the u.s media and a lot of public opinion your your supporters are going to go absolutely crazy

00:02:13.680 and move out with whatever you say so why not just say that you won every time he talks about

00:02:19.120 iran he gives this punch list he's like we bombed their navy we killed the supreme leader he does

00:02:23.280 like a trump rally speech on it which is what he is incredibly talented at why doesn't he just give

00:02:28.480 that speech while our guys come home because here's the thing president trump likes leverage

00:02:33.120 he likes to be in control if we have our troops within reach of the iranians we are giving the

00:02:38.480 the iranians the ability to drag us back into the fight on their terms right operation midnight

00:02:44.120 hammer when he flew all the way across the the world to bomb iran in the middle of the night 0.88

00:02:48.320 that proved that we don't need to have our guys over there within range of the iranians so he's

00:02:52.240 still going to have the ability to strike him if he wants to so there is no lose there's no losing

00:02:57.160 in pulling our guys out it's only advantageous to him last week rex hosted the war room some

00:03:06.560 and he had Joe Kent on.

00:03:10.080 Joe Kent's a big fan of the show

00:03:11.240 and it's just so politically

00:03:12.240 it comes on my show

00:03:13.000 it becomes a political distraction.

00:03:14.620 And he talks to Harris

00:03:15.380 we've been on Harris' show for years

00:03:16.580 and we were talking about

00:03:17.300 Charlie Kirk being killed

00:03:18.200 back when he was still the director

00:03:19.200 and it was the cover-up

00:03:20.800 that was going on there

00:03:21.420 of any foreign involvement.

00:03:22.880 He actually wasn't my source on that

00:03:24.420 but I had a source that was there

00:03:25.420 in that meeting with Cash Patel

00:03:26.700 about him and Tulsi Gabbard

00:03:28.180 and the argument about it.

00:03:29.180 So I knew about it separately

00:03:29.940 but he's since confirmed all that.

00:03:32.100 But Rex interviewed Joe Kent

00:03:34.640 and he predicted that day, hours before, that Israel would strike Lebanon to kill the peace

00:03:41.980 deal, which they did, then prompting Trump to blow up at Netanyahu and then leak it to Axios.

00:03:47.540 And I told you Trump leaked that when it broke over the weekend. And you said, oh, you're crazy. 0.99

00:03:51.600 I mean, I mean, like half people on X that commented were like, ah, Axios is full of crap. 0.99

00:03:56.660 You know, this isn't real. Well, Trump came out last night and said, no, it's all real. And he 0.97

00:04:00.420 all but said he leaked it i knew it was trump leaked it to axios and i knew from sources that

00:04:04.720 that indeed happened that's happened before by the way and you can say well that's trump trying

00:04:08.360 to save face and act like he's against the war yeah at one level but but really what it is is

00:04:13.160 a off-ramp for trump as he realizes that this is going to destroy the economy made him super

00:04:18.720 unpopular we're going to lose the midterms so again people have weird thinking out there so

00:04:24.020 i've harped on this this isn't about trump's legacy it isn't about his facelift if he starts

00:04:29.240 doing the right thing, and it turns off the funding and intelligence to Ukraine to make

00:04:34.820 them do the deal that's a good deal to end this, that's good for the whole world and

00:04:39.040 good for human lives.

00:04:40.320 And if Trump gets pressure on him and wants to do an off-ramp and blame Netanyahu, who

00:04:45.400 really is, at the end of the day, most to blame, Trump's to blame for being part of

00:04:48.240 it as well, then wonderful.

00:04:51.360 What does that have to do with the people that say they're anti-Trump, mad that I'm

00:04:55.520 saying this is great what Trump's doing?

00:04:57.360 I'm live right now, I guarantee you, in the comments.

00:05:00.460 And I guarantee you, when we take that first hour,

00:05:03.320 when I just did last segment about Trump banning, you know,

00:05:06.360 90% of the poison childhood vaccines, which they essentially done,

00:05:10.380 because there's no liability protection now.

00:05:11.580 That's what's going to happen.

00:05:12.260 They're going to pull them.

00:05:14.420 And I praise Trump for that. 1.00

00:05:15.800 It's going to be, you piece of crap. 1.00

00:05:17.120 You're back sucking his wiener. 1.00

00:05:19.120 What does that mean? 0.99

00:05:21.080 Like, I'm supporting good things they're doing.

00:05:22.960 I'm fighting bad things they're doing.

00:05:25.340 Like, Trump's killed internal enforcement.

00:05:29.300 Bovino broke that weeks ago.

00:05:30.740 Now it's back in the news.

00:05:31.620 We're putting pressure on him.

00:05:34.680 You guys are programmed not to take action.

00:05:36.740 You're programmed to lose.

00:05:37.940 Trying to program me to lose.

00:05:39.160 It ain't going to happen.

00:05:40.380 I want to salute my son.

00:05:41.980 We're doing an excellent job interviewing Joe Kent.

00:05:44.600 Rex Jones, straight ahead.

00:05:47.660 Be sure to follow him on X.

00:05:48.760 We'll see a URL coming up.

00:05:50.900 Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest.

00:05:56.840 However tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry.

00:06:03.380 Keep punching.

00:06:10.960 We're doing today what's called broadcasting, ladies and gentlemen.

00:06:15.080 It's called looking into the camera and talking to the world.

00:06:17.700 I'm joined today by Joe Kent, who I had the honor of meeting in Grand Rapids at the Rage Against the War Machine event.

00:06:23.960 He's with me now, and there's so much I wanted to interview you about and talk to you about.

00:06:28.540 I think really the generational divide is something that I want to touch on.

00:06:32.480 And really, I love what you're saying about building a coalition of the younger people that are really against all this stuff and really abhor it at a deep level.

00:06:39.700 But I want to start off by just kind of like color news of the day type of thing.

00:06:44.700 This has been, you know, the 11th or 12th agreement Trump has claimed is going to be signed.

00:06:49.880 Do you think peace negotiation or memorandum of understanding is going to go through?

00:06:54.880 No, I don't think so, man.

00:06:56.580 I was just looking at the news before he came on today, and he just got done. 0.55

00:07:00.060 I guess with this meeting, the Iranians came out and said that they kind of rejected what the president had laid out in his true social.

00:07:08.300 or not necessarily rejected it, but said that, you know, it didn't properly characterize

00:07:12.080 their understanding of the agreement. So as of right now, you know, no, no agreement. It doesn't

00:07:16.920 seem like much has changed. I've been advocating for the president just to basically declare

00:07:20.880 victory and pull our forces out before there's a, you know, before there's a unfortunate mistake

00:07:26.240 that happens when we exchange fires. We've gone through a couple of different iterations where we

00:07:29.600 say the ceasefire is holding, but then we have some brush with the Iranians. We just had our 1.00

00:07:35.420 base in Kuwait, was at least targeted. We intercepted the missiles. But the thing with

00:07:40.700 us having to be there in those contested areas is we have to be lucky always. The enemy only has to

00:07:46.140 be lucky once. If tragically we end up losing some troops in one of these exchanges, then we're not

00:07:50.740 going to be able to leave. So I'm saying like right now, while we can, let's just punch out,

00:07:55.580 we can work everything else out quietly behind the scenes. And Trump can say that he won this

00:08:00.540 whole thing. Because I don't believe right now with the hard lines that he's drawn, the poison

00:08:04.760 pills i don't think the iranians are going to accept that right they feel like they're they

00:08:08.600 have the upper hand well that's the thing right where they they get the nuclear program the

00:08:13.920 civilian nuclear program and they tie that together with you know kind of the mantra the

00:08:18.020 magic spell which is iran must never have a nuclear weapon you're like well the fought well

00:08:23.660 they agreed to not have one in 2004 we were the ones that left that agreement right you try to

00:08:29.720 explain that to people their brains break what what would you have to say to an american that

00:08:33.300 may not be aware of this entire situation and the difference between the civilian nuclear and

00:08:37.260 nuclear program? You know, I would just say if we look at the long course of all the data that

00:08:45.200 we have on the Iranians, they have never sprinted towards getting a nuclear weapon. It's easy to

00:08:50.800 characterize the Iranians as like crazy jihadis because a lot of their terrorist organizations 0.98

00:08:55.820 will use some jihad-like references. And without getting too in detail on like Shias versus Sunnis,

00:09:01.580 Sure. The Iranians have always kind of had a very measured escalation ladder. 0.99

00:09:07.760 The Shia militants that they support and they fund have only attacked us when we've gone into the Middle East. 0.98

00:09:15.740 Right. So they haven't. These aren't the guys that are getting on airplanes to fly over here and kill Americans. 1.00

00:09:20.960 Their nuclear program is very similar as well.

00:09:23.500 In about 2003, the Supreme Leader, the guy that we killed at the beginning of this, he put out a fatwa religious decree,

00:09:29.380 which most Americans would be like, I don't really care about an Islamic religious decree.

00:09:32.940 Neither do I, quite frankly. I care about the actions that came next.

00:09:36.740 So the Fatwa said that it's forbidden for Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

00:09:41.600 Because their system is hybrid between the Shia religion and the government,

00:09:46.820 he gave a bunch of Shia religious reasons why they wouldn't have a nuclear weapon.

00:09:50.600 But also it was very pragmatic because at the time we had just invaded Iraq

00:09:53.700 because we said Saddam has weapons of mass destruction.

00:09:56.140 Saddam never really came clean because he wanted the Iranians to think he had a nuclear weapon.

00:09:59.380 So Saddam always kind of beat his chest a little bit publicly about like, well, maybe I do have a nuclear weapon. 0.66

00:10:04.840 But then a couple of years later, Qaddafi said, well, I don't want to get the Saddam treatment, Qaddafi in Libya. 0.76

00:10:09.020 And he gave up all of his enrichment, all of his nuclear program. 0.69

00:10:11.880 Did not end well.

00:10:12.760 Did not end well for him specifically.

00:10:14.020 Did not end well for him or for Saddam.

00:10:15.640 Yes, yes. 1.00

00:10:16.480 So over time, the Iranians – 1.00

00:10:17.880 My bad. 1.00

00:10:19.020 So over time, the Iranians, they held the fatwa.

00:10:22.420 They didn't develop any nuclear weapons. 0.77

00:10:23.740 But they basically said like we're going to have what I call the Goldilocks version.

00:10:27.160 They're going to have something halfway in between.

00:10:28.940 where they're going to say, we could have a nuclear weapon.

00:10:31.860 We're going to retain the ability to enrich, and we're going to use some of it for civilian purposes.

00:10:35.840 But we are not going to actually get a nuclear weapon. 0.81

00:10:38.620 So it was less dramatic than what the North Koreans did. 0.60

00:10:42.420 So that was actually holding.

00:10:44.120 That prohibition was holding up until this last iteration of the war.

00:10:48.340 And once President Trump came back into the office, number one, the Iranians withheld their proxies from attacking us.

00:10:53.920 Under Biden, the proxies were attacking us because they didn't respect Biden.

00:10:57.220 But they held back those proxies up until, again, this last iteration of the war.

00:11:00.680 Even during the 12-day war at Midnight Hammer, the proxies didn't attack us. 0.97

00:11:04.220 So the Iranians actually – I'm no fan of the Ayatollahs. 0.93

00:11:07.280 I've fought these guys in the streets of Baghdad and Najaf, et cetera, before.

00:11:10.780 But they actually are fairly pragmatic, and they do observe a close escalation ladder.

00:11:15.660 So they are people that we can deal with.

00:11:16.940 We're not going to agree all the time, but I do believe we can deal with them.

00:11:20.180 What's really going on here? 0.96

00:11:21.960 Why are we at war with Iran?

00:11:23.800 What is the true reason?

00:11:24.980 Because, you know, after us talking for a little bit, it doesn't seem to truly be about the nuclear weapon.

00:11:29.880 You know, oftentimes it's like this game where they move the goalposts.

00:11:33.080 They talk about nuclear weapon, then civilian enrichment and then the ballistic missiles and go ballistic missiles.

00:11:38.120 What does that have to do with the nuclear weapon?

00:11:40.300 They go, well, we don't want them to be able to hit Israel.

00:11:42.520 We got to have restrictions to their ballistic missile program.

00:11:44.820 I heard Hannity talk about this.

00:11:46.500 I've heard Levin talk about this ad nauseum.

00:11:48.900 What is it really about?

00:11:50.060 Why is this war actually happening?

00:11:51.560 this is happening because the israelis from an israeli optic and they're actually correct on

00:11:57.360 this this is the probably the most vulnerable that not actually not right now but prior to this war

00:12:02.260 starting the the iranians were the most vulnerable that they've been they've done an enormous uh

00:12:07.700 they've done a great job of actually coming back and now they have a lot of advantages that they

00:12:11.300 didn't have before they weren't flexing before but when president trump came into office uh october

00:12:16.600 seventh had happened basically two years before. The Israelis went, they did horrific things in 0.96

00:12:22.480 Gaza, but they did significant damage to Hamas. They did significant damage to Hezbollah. They 0.78

00:12:28.480 had the pagers operation. They killed the leader of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah. Assad had just

00:12:33.620 fallen. So Assad was no longer there in their backyard basically supplying Hezbollah. So they

00:12:39.620 assessed that like, look, our enemies are on their back heel right now. Now we need to go after the

00:12:44.260 head of the snake, the country that we've wanted to take down basically for the last 25 plus years. 1.00

00:12:48.500 We assess the Ayatollahs as weakest. We're going to go for it. But they knew that they couldn't do 1.00

00:12:52.660 it on their own. They needed to get us on board. This is where you saw what I described in my

00:12:56.720 resignation letter. The echo chamber come in. The Israelis really used the full scope of their

00:13:01.740 access to American officials, American media, AIPAC, the lobby. It was a full court press to

00:13:07.200 get this issue of enriched uranium front and center to move that red line. Trump tried to

00:13:12.840 take that issue off the playing field with Operation Midnight Hammer by taking away their

00:13:19.680 ability to enrich uranium. But the Israelis kept coming. I believe they were able to convince 0.99

00:13:24.840 President Trump that this whole thing was going to be quick and easy, just like Venezuela. They 0.89

00:13:28.700 got him on board. And the rest, why he's not just walking away right now, that leads me to ask other

00:13:35.260 questions that we can discuss. But that's kind of the short answer of how we got into this.

00:13:39.340 I mean, basically, back in the old days, during, you know, the heyday info wars, like 2016, really to like 2018, 2020, we were basically Olympic champion water carriers for Trump.

00:13:50.440 Like he was our guy. We believed in him. Like, that's what I grew up doing. I was a child political pundit.

00:13:55.660 OK, so I sang this man's praises literally for a decade, but I did it from a genuine perspective of believing in the mission.

00:14:01.740 And I said, hey, this guy's a pragmatist. When I watched the 60 Minutes documentary or interview, excuse me, where the guy says,

00:14:08.360 you say you'd get along with Putin. Putin's a killer, sir. Don't you know Putin's a killer? 0.99

00:14:12.620 And Trump goes, you think we're so innocent? I thought that was beautiful. That's the country, 0.93

00:14:17.360 like be real, be honest about it. And then from there, make real pragmatic decisions where we can

00:14:21.820 have cooperation and we can end the wars. I didn't realize he was just saying, hey, we're going to be

00:14:26.240 able to do this, so I'm going to do it too. And that's the thing that broke my heart. You know,

00:14:30.300 like none of this makes me happy. Like the criticism that we have to do, the due diligence

00:14:34.000 we have to do. None of it makes me happy. And a part of me has to wonder how much of this is due

00:14:39.300 to the boomer problem, the old age problem, the guy who is 80 years old and probably sleeps for 0.54

00:14:45.680 like three hours a night and is led around through a series of rooms to rubber stamp and sign various

00:14:52.420 documents that he may not know anything about. And then all you're surrounded by are your friends,

00:14:57.780 right? And your friends are all younger than you. They're all rich as rich or richer than you.

00:15:01.680 And they know the right thing for you to do. So just go ahead and sign it. How much of it is that you think he's being, you know, I think he's in a bad circle.

00:15:09.700 Yeah, there's definitely a lot of that. And I feel the same way you do.

00:15:13.680 I mean, I got involved in politics largely because of President Trump took out one of the Trump impeachment voters in a congressional primary and then was honored to serve in his administration.

00:15:22.980 So the actions that he's taken in the last 18 months, I agree with you. They're heartbreaking. They're very frustrating.

00:15:28.280 A lot of this is the control mechanisms, I think, of just having a really, really tight circle.

00:15:34.060 In the lead-up to the 12-day war in Midnight Hammer, we had a really robust debate because the president does actually have, if he would use it, although it's being thinned out every day, a really diverse cabinet.

00:15:44.860 And so the deputies' committees process we were doing, the National Security Council process that we were doing, that was really robust.

00:15:50.840 After Operation Midnight Hammer, his circle really shrunk.

00:15:54.000 You've got it right there on the screen.

00:15:55.580 That's kind of who he has around him in general.

00:15:58.280 And obviously, if he would just stick his head up and look at the results that he's getting, he would see that, you know, what he was promised is not what has been delivered.

00:16:05.460 And so why he's not being more critical and bringing in more advisors, I honestly, that part, I don't know.

00:16:13.080 I was around the president enough.

00:16:14.520 I mean, I wasn't primary cabinet, so I wasn't with him every five minutes.

00:16:17.220 But, you know, I had a good deal of exposure to him.

00:16:20.300 He's not senile.

00:16:21.440 He's still very much with it.

00:16:22.580 He's still very sharp.

00:16:23.620 That's why, again, a lot of times when people ask me what's going on, I'm like, you know, it is a head scratcher.

00:16:29.360 OK, so sorry to interrupt you. I'm notorious about that. I'm very bad about that.

00:16:34.640 That's my worst broadcasting quality as a broadcaster. But getting back into it, when you're talking about Trump, I was watching a Mario Newfall interview that you did.

00:16:43.080 And you were talking about the Hezbollah pager operation. 0.54

00:16:45.900 You were saying, well, if they're willing to do that because it's in their strategic interest, what else could they be capable of doing, you know, maybe domestically to us here? 0.70

00:16:53.620 I want to go ahead and roll the green-black clip.

00:16:56.560 That's clip 13, Pager Tactics.

00:16:58.740 I want to go ahead and roll this for you.

00:17:01.420 We've got to start doing things differently. 0.54

00:17:05.960 And the same goes here in Israel.

00:17:08.500 This means that the problem won't be solved by yet another new Knesset task force.

00:17:12.980 It won't be solved by the government just throwing money at the problem.

00:17:17.220 It won't be solved by the IDF spokesperson's unit issuing updated talking points

00:17:21.840 are suddenly using TikTok.

00:17:24.880 Like us in America, you need to adopt new strategies

00:17:27.960 to experiment with creative tactics

00:17:30.260 to study the results and scale what works.

00:17:34.840 Maybe it's a whole new IDF unit,

00:17:36.540 call it 8300, to lead this fight.

00:17:39.900 But we need the kind of genius

00:17:41.920 that manufactured Apollo gold pagers 0.99

00:17:44.180 and infiltrated Hezbollah for over a decade

00:17:46.680 to prepare for this battle.

00:17:48.960 We need the kind of courage

00:17:50.340 that executed Operation Deep Layer inside Syria 0.76

00:17:53.560 and destroyed Iranian missile manufacturing capabilities

00:17:56.480 to undertake this mission.

00:17:58.040 All right, pause it.

00:17:58.200 That's enough, man.

00:17:58.820 Get him off the screen.

00:18:00.120 See, I take that as a personal threat, okay?

00:18:02.740 You're not allowed to say that to me.

00:18:03.960 I'm an American citizen. 0.72

00:18:04.960 You work for a foreign government, okay?

00:18:06.620 And you could say, oh, it's an American organization, ADL.

00:18:09.000 I don't care.

00:18:09.740 Where does the money come from?

00:18:10.700 What are your thoughts on that, Joe Kent?

00:18:13.700 I'm not familiar with who that is.

00:18:15.380 That's the ADL.

00:18:15.960 That's the head of the ADL.

00:18:17.320 That's Jonathan Greenblatt.

00:18:18.720 yeah i mean i i don't i'm not i'm not sure what what he was getting at there but look the the

00:18:25.820 israeli influence in our in our own government i think it's something that we we don't take

00:18:29.680 seriously enough it's almost become something taboo to talk about uh behind closed doors i i

00:18:34.640 saw that i was surprised that nobody was just kind of calling it out um we do a very bad job

00:18:39.480 of we on one hand will recognize that israel has a very capable intelligence service that's

00:18:45.040 actually very impressive. But then we kind of are naive and think that they would not use that

00:18:50.140 against us when American support for Israeli operations is basically essential for the

00:18:55.880 survival of their country. And so I think we need to be much more realistic, especially as we kind

00:19:01.020 of scratch our head and say like, what could be influencing President Trump? Sorry to interrupt.

00:19:07.180 The reason why I throw that up, Harrison Smith, who's done an interview with you, he's got a

00:19:10.920 video it's got like 35 million views it's called the eight front war and it's basically a montage

00:19:15.180 of netanyahu saying hey you know the next real battle you know is digital it's information we

00:19:20.500 got to do media and the reason why i played the video clip of greenblatt greenblatt runs the adl

00:19:26.040 we look at it as domestic american citizens as people that do media this is like you know this

00:19:32.060 is red dawn this is the people parachuting in from a foreign government a foreign country

00:19:36.160 And you can say, oh, it's an American organization, blah, blah, blah. No, it's not. It's not an American organization because Americans don't do this. OK. And I don't consider censorship to be an American value, much like the genocide. I want to ask you this question right now. I got to be honest about this. This is why I got back into it. OK. It was at first Ukraine where conservatively, you know, one and a half million people are dead, probably a lot more.

00:20:00.360 But really, the Gaza and Lebanon issue. What is going on? Why do we co-sign this? Is it because Americans are ignorant because they don't know? Those are our bombs, right?

00:20:12.620 a hundred percent i mean we fund the idf so again this is where we're just not realistic

00:20:20.220 with the way that we approach the israelis the israelis do a good job of uh having people who

00:20:26.260 sound like you and i because they're dual citizens usually right engage with us so you can let your

00:20:31.500 guard down and you can think that you're dealing with like some guy from miami right um but really

00:20:36.180 you are dealing with someone who has a very very different view of the world in a very different

00:20:39.820 view of warfare. And warfare is brutal. And the Israelis fight in a very brutal, old school,

00:20:46.320 salt the earth type of way. We're seeing that in Gaza. Yet at the same time, we don't acknowledge 0.85

00:20:53.580 it that we're funding it. And I don't think we would fund one of our Five Eyes partners

00:20:57.480 if they were doing something similar. As a matter of fact, I think that we would kind of call that

00:21:01.280 out. But for some reason, because of the propaganda war that the Israelis run, because of how much 0.99

00:21:05.440 money they pump into our elections. No one wants to come out and say that. And so we do turn a 0.79

00:21:10.820 blind eye to it. And obviously that's morally horrible, but also like we have to take a step

00:21:15.880 back and say like, what ire does that get us from the rest of the world? And is that worth it?

00:21:21.300 Because at the end of the day, like, what do we get from Israel? And people say, oh, we get some 0.96

00:21:24.660 intelligence, whatever, et cetera. But is even that on its best day worth the amount of ire that

00:21:31.320 we get from from these Middle Eastern countries, because at the end of the day, Israel doesn't 0.97

00:21:36.000 really have any natural resources.

00:21:37.460 They're they're they're not the only reason they're a regional power is because of what

00:21:41.400 we give.

00:21:42.080 Well, they make the end of the day speaking.

00:21:44.000 They make war.

00:21:45.260 Yeah, that's that's they generate a need for the for the M.I.C., for the military industrial 0.56

00:21:49.640 complex.

00:21:50.100 That's what all of this is.

00:21:51.280 And you're you're making the pragmatist like resource based calculation, which I also agree

00:21:56.180 with.

00:21:56.500 And it's horrible.

00:21:57.060 It's terrible.

00:21:57.720 I don't want to pay for a single murder.

00:22:00.200 I don't want to pay for a single dead American soldier. 0.98

00:22:02.980 I don't want to pay for a single dead Palestinian girl. 0.99

00:22:05.860 OK, period. 1.00

00:22:06.660 Or Iranian. 1.00

00:22:07.300 I don't care. 1.00

00:22:07.920 Whatever.

00:22:08.680 Just make it stop.

00:22:09.740 And I think that's why your point of just telling Trump, hey, just declare victory and go home.

00:22:14.140 I got huge issues with President Trump.

00:22:15.860 I immensely dislike, perhaps even hate him now.

00:22:17.920 That's my view personally.

00:22:19.080 But if he just left and came home, it would be a lot harder for me to criticize him than it is right now.

00:22:25.220 And that would objectively be good policy.

00:22:27.400 What is your impassioned pitch?

00:22:28.680 Why does that need to happen?

00:22:31.400 He just needs to look at the results.

00:22:32.940 Like if there was a military solution right now, if the Pentagon could come in with a cohesive plan that says if we bomb, destroy, kill X, Y, and Z, we're out of this thing, he would have done it.

00:22:45.400 He would have done it months ago, and this whole thing would be over.

00:22:47.860 It's pretty evident there's no military solution.

00:22:50.740 When we went in to go recover our fighter pilots, we got a taste, and we got very lucky.

00:22:55.320 Thankfully, we didn't lose anybody, but we got a taste of how hard it would be to actually do boots on the ground. 1.00

00:23:00.860 We attempted some goofy, we're going to arm the Kurds. 0.99

00:23:04.020 Nobody, I guess, consulted a map to see how small the Kurdish territory is compared to the rest of Iran. 0.91

00:23:09.720 So there's no military solution.

00:23:11.240 There's no boots on the ground solution. 0.90

00:23:12.540 If the Israelis could do some great intelligence coup, they would have done it by now. 0.75

00:23:15.600 So our military efforts have reached their limit. 0.76

00:23:17.620 That's obvious to the president.

00:23:20.060 The diplomacy track, we continue to insert these poison pills, 0.95

00:23:24.240 And the Iranians have been very upfront about what the poison pills are and why they're not going to give up and acquiesce because they feel that they're militarily winning.

00:23:33.060 And they're winning by not losing. 0.93

00:23:34.760 They can expend very little resources and they can shut down the Straits of Hormuz, et cetera.

00:23:38.960 So basically it's like, Mr. President, you are out of other options right now.

00:23:43.780 You can control – for now, you can control the US media and a lot of public opinion.

00:23:48.740 Your supporters are going to go absolutely crazy and move out with whatever you say.

00:23:54.240 So why not just say that you won?

00:23:56.220 Every time he talks about Iran, he gives this punch list. 0.77

00:23:58.420 He's like, we bombed their Navy. 0.70

00:23:59.740 We killed the Supreme Leader.

00:24:01.000 He does like a Trump rally speech on it, which is what he is incredibly talented at.

00:24:05.300 Why doesn't he just give that speech while our guys come home?

00:24:08.660 Because here's the thing.

00:24:09.660 President Trump likes leverage.

00:24:10.900 He likes to be in control. 0.98

00:24:12.660 If we have our troops within reach of the Iranians, we are giving the Iranians the ability to drag us back into the fight on their terms. 1.00

00:24:20.880 Right. Operation Midnight Hammer, when he flew all the way across the world to bomb Iran in the middle of the night, that proved that we don't need to have our guys over there within range of the Iranians. So he's still going to have the ability to strike him if he wants to. So there is no lose. There's no losing in pulling our guys out. It's only advantageous to him. 0.99

00:24:39.240 I've seen a number of prominent Israelis signal potential issues with Turkey and, you know, the new battle coming up. 1.00

00:24:47.440 You know, I've heard Naftali Bennett talk about it.

00:24:49.140 I've heard Jonathan Pollard talk about it.

00:24:50.720 I want to play some of those clips for you at the beginning of the next segment.

00:24:53.660 But I want to ask you right now, if you had a message to younger people about this war and why it needs to stop and why they need to care, what would you tell them?

00:25:00.620 i would just tell them that the reason why um our country our country's leaders cannot put

00:25:08.300 their needs first why they can't address the cost of living why they can't make the streets safe

00:25:13.300 why they basically are making any kind of economic mobility impossible right it's because the

00:25:18.600 trillions of dollars that we take in in taxes are by and large being sent overseas and right now

00:25:24.620 the the vector point for that like it's been for the last 25 plus years is in the middle east for 0.74

00:25:29.500 another Middle Eastern war. And Iran is a much bigger country than Iraq or Afghanistan. It's 0.82

00:25:33.580 much more significant. The ramifications we're already feeling, that's why the price of the pump

00:25:37.260 is up, making their lives worse. But I would say that this whole idea that America has to be

00:25:42.560 the world's policeman, for lack of a better term, that we have to have this American empire where

00:25:47.360 we control every aspect militarily of the world, that's why our leaders can never actually put

00:25:52.740 our country first. So we actually have to be very judicious when it comes time to choose who's going

00:25:58.840 to sit in the Oval Office, who's going to be the president? Because at the end of the day,

00:26:02.960 the president really can't affect a lot of the different social issues and a lot of the different,

00:26:07.580 you know, more local issues, culture war issues that get so much attention. Like the president

00:26:11.980 really can't do a lot with like, you know, health care policy, abortion, these different things that

00:26:17.620 take up so much of our bandwidth, but they can affect foreign policy. And if they get us drug

00:26:22.260 off into these wars, that will spike gas prices, that will send, you know, trillions of dollars

00:26:27.480 overseas, and potentially that'll even send more young men and women off to die on foreign

00:26:30.680 battlefields, you know, for basically for nothing but this empire. So when we go to choose our next

00:26:36.600 president, it's got to be someone that's going to commit to keep us out of these wars, to keep the 0.99

00:26:40.700 Israeli and any foreign influence, I don't care what country it is, keep their influence out of 0.85

00:26:44.920 our government and actually start prioritizing our own nation. That's going to make us safer. 0.93

00:26:49.820 That's going to make it so that our leaders actually deal with what affects our daily lives

00:26:54.360 here in america yes i 100 agree and really why i'm a big fan of your policies you've been good

00:27:00.620 on ukraine you've been good on this and i really think that's the litmus test for hey are we

00:27:04.480 serious about no foreign entanglements because i feel like there's two power blocks in washington

00:27:08.180 i feel like there's kind of the more euro russia centric one that you know kind of wants a world

00:27:13.000 war three with putin and whatnot and then we got the new faction that's conservative over the imec

00:27:17.540 corridor in china's land expansion and the battle in the levant with israel being our aircraft

00:27:23.000 carrier, so to speak. And I think it's really important that we have Americans out there that

00:27:27.200 are saying, hey, both are bad. Both are a problem. We don't need to be doing these things.

00:27:31.560 We're becoming Brazil, ladies and gentlemen. I don't know if you looked around at the potholes

00:27:36.320 and the conditions, everything. This country is descending down the ladder. And I think it's

00:27:41.280 important, Joe, that we got people like you that are here to talk about, hey, maybe we can do

00:27:45.020 something about this. Maybe we can stop this slide off into oblivion and reclaim what we have

00:27:49.660 or had. And that is, in my view, the American Republic, not the U.S. Israeli empire. And I 0.73

00:27:55.360 think that's what we need to return to. We're going to come right back after a little bit of

00:27:59.320 a network break here. I got a lot more questions to ask you on the generational divide. I kind of

00:28:04.260 chuckled. I have to be honest, just making my boomer jokes and kind of kind of laughed at a

00:28:07.980 couple of them that made me smile. So we're going to get back into it. Joined by the great Joe Kent

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00:28:29.340 I want to start with sexual Tyrannosaurus Rex. 0.96

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00:30:42.500 But I was referencing a couple Jonathan Pollard clips referencing the coming war on Turkey.

00:30:48.380 And then, of course, the threatening of the nuclear weapons use back during the Yom Kippur War that I wanted to reference.

00:30:53.960 Let's go ahead and roll these two clips. 0.99

00:30:55.380 I'm not so sure that we will have as easy a time with the Turks as we've had with the 1.00

00:31:05.780 Iranians. 0.99

00:31:06.780 I've been following Turkish military doctrine and...

00:31:12.380 The strongest army in the Middle East.

00:31:14.380 The storm is coming. 0.94

00:31:15.380 Yes, of course.

00:31:16.380 I...

00:31:17.380 And they're a member of NATO.

00:31:19.380 And even worse, they're a member of NATO. 0.97

00:31:21.380 So I look at Iran as a problem. We absolutely have to finish. And I'll explain what I mean by that. Gaza, same thing. And the Hezbollah. Why? Why am I fixated on this now? Because we have to be prepared for the next war, which will be probably against Turkey and Egypt for the United States. 1.00

00:31:43.880 All right. Pause it. All right. So this is Jonathan Pollard and Jonathan Pollard got a 30 year sentence for espionage, treason, whatever you want to call it. He was spying on the U.S. for the Israelis. Of course, he gets pardoned or whatever. He flies over to Israel. There is literally photographic evidence of him kissing the ground, kissing the tarmac at Netanyahu's feet.

00:32:04.620 You cannot make this stuff up. He's also, you know, all the way back in 2011, being visited by Huckabee, being helped by Huckabee.

00:32:12.200 So you can't say that this you can call it extreme, but lens of thought is not at least prevalent in some of these circles and some of these people that are being influenced.

00:32:20.020 Joe, what do you think about this?

00:32:23.020 What he's saying, I believe it because you're seeing the Israelis right now trying to do a lot of outreach to the Kurds who, you know, have a long ongoing dispute, to say the least, with the Turks. 0.60

00:32:33.380 There's just been a lot of saber rattling there, and this was inevitable.

00:32:36.420 This was actually one of the other dangers of what we did in Syria by taking out Assad.

00:32:42.780 Obviously, the big issue there was we emboldened a lot of jihadis. 0.66

00:32:46.700 One of them currently runs Damascus, but we did take away some sort of a buffer that was between the Turks and the Israelis. 0.83

00:32:55.020 And now there's going to be a competition in the region for who actually is going to be the biggest shot caller there because the Turks, they're a NATO member.

00:33:03.380 They have a very, very competent, very capable military as well.

00:33:07.240 And that is just unacceptable for the Israelis. 0.92

00:33:10.340 And the Israelis, I believe, if we can, if they can get us, if they can convince us to leave NATO or to get the Turks out of NATO, I think we're going to see a conflict there in the future. 0.93

00:33:20.520 It'll probably start in Syria initially, but it's just going to spiral out from there. 0.92

00:33:27.060 And again, like, what's our interest?

00:33:28.840 Why are we even involved?

00:33:29.520 I didn't even think to ask you about Alshara, now Aljulani, who comes over to the White House and, you know, kind of daps up President Trump and President Trump goes, you smell phenomenal.

00:33:38.860 Look at this guy. He smells great. What is going on?

00:33:42.060 I guess that actually makes sense if you make the Turkey connection and then what's what's going to happen there.

00:33:46.920 I want to roll the second Jonathan Pollard clip. And this is one I've played this literally probably 100 times in my personal show.

00:33:52.060 I always make the point to show people, hey, he claims that they've threatened the use of nuclear weapons in the past to get an arms embargo lifted.

00:34:00.080 We don't know if that's true or not. He claims it. Let's go ahead and roll the tape.

00:34:04.300 For the United States and the West, nuclear weapons at any level, tactical, strategic, EMPs, whatever, are viewed as something that should only be used as a last resort.

00:34:17.540 and even then very carefully, on an escalation ladder, as they say.

00:34:23.420 With me, I don't care if you start throwing nukes immediately, responsibly, but immediately.

00:34:30.980 All right, pause it really quick.

00:34:32.460 I messed up a little bit.

00:34:33.780 I don't have the right video.

00:34:35.840 He's talking to an African-American woman about nuclear weapons and the Yom Kippur War.

00:34:41.200 See if you can find it and look it up on X. 0.62

00:34:43.360 The point I'm trying to make is he's very flippant about this,

00:34:46.020 And he says he says that they've threatened to use them before.

00:34:48.800 He said, look, we were in a situation where we were hurting really bad.

00:34:52.660 We parked the F4 on the runway.

00:34:55.140 We told the Americans to use their eye in the sky to take a look under the wing.

00:34:58.380 Had some unconventional weapons on there.

00:35:00.420 The arms embargo lifted the next day.

00:35:02.740 Is this a way an ally should treat us?

00:35:06.860 No, not at all.

00:35:07.880 I mean, in general, the way that the Israelis deal with us is not a way, well, not even really an ally.

00:35:14.120 a country that we are we are paying for i mean like in a business relationship they are the

00:35:19.600 junior partner however and when you hear them address us and deal with us it's not a junior

00:35:24.080 partner relationship and again a lot of this is because we don't view the israelis in a very

00:35:28.560 clear-eyed way but also because we've become so reliant um on israeli intelligence a lot of our

00:35:34.920 intelligence muscles have atrophied and so we do kind of go to them we're like well they are giving

00:35:40.000 us this great intelligence when we need it. I think that's nonsense. I think we have a very

00:35:45.560 capable intelligence community. If we would just have to do some retooling here and there, I think

00:35:49.320 we could do our own collection. But this is kind of the way the Israelis address us in general. 0.81

00:35:55.220 And again, it's time for us to sober up and realize how much we're paying for these guys, 0.78

00:36:00.660 for Israel and what we get in return. We're drunk. We got a mistress and she's too expensive.

00:36:07.060 It's time to end the relationship.

00:36:09.580 That's what it sounds like to me.

00:36:10.760 I'm going to roll the Jonathan Pollard clip now.

00:36:15.060 If we have it available.

00:36:17.540 All right, I'm guest hosting.

00:36:19.720 I'm a little junior.

00:36:20.320 I make a little mistake from time to time.

00:36:23.220 But once we roll the clip, people really understand the way it's flippantly talked about.

00:36:27.400 And this is nearly, I think, 50 years ago.

00:36:29.660 So this longstanding foreign policy of, oh, it's OK to bully or threaten or intimidate the United States.

00:36:34.900 why is it okay for the nation that we subsidize to treat us this way it's not okay and this is

00:36:41.280 why young americans are angry because we've grown up in a world where we have not even an inkling

00:36:46.260 of sovereignty this is the problem we're going to go ahead and roll it now okay let me let me give

00:36:50.320 you an example of that um i was criticized very heavily for opposing the ceasefire the american

00:36:57.600 imposed ceasefire in lebanon on us and um i was told by certain people in the government look we

00:37:04.640 didn't have choice because we were being threatened with a complete cutoff of arms.

00:37:12.140 So I listened to this and the individual telling me this said, you don't believe this or what? I

00:37:20.840 said, I believe that the O'Biden administration, as I called it, did threaten us. But I said,

00:37:27.840 you're mistaken if you think there's never a choice. There was a choice. He said, well,

00:37:32.480 what? Is it to have our weapons cut off? I said, no, let me bring you back to October 1973 during

00:37:40.060 the Yom Kippur War when Henry Kissinger instituted an arms embargo against us. He stopped the aerial

00:37:49.160 resupply of our army at that point to extract diplomatic concessions from us. And what happened?

00:37:57.920 What happened was an A-4 Skyhawk was parked at Telnoff Air Base

00:38:06.920 with some interesting weapons under its wings,

00:38:10.880 and we told the Americans,

00:38:13.940 take your eye in the sky and take a good look at the airplane that's on that runway.

00:38:20.720 And the next day, the airlift started.

00:38:25.620 Okay, take us out.

00:38:27.920 So we got Jabba the Hutt with a beard and a tiny hat threatening the country, bragging about how they threatened the country into submission.

00:38:35.920 And he goes on to say the arms embargo lifted the next day.

00:38:38.860 Joe, I don't have the credibility to do it.

00:38:41.180 You got to tell young people about this, about like the denigration of our country and what's going on.

00:38:45.900 It makes me sick.

00:38:48.240 It's an off-balance relationship to say the very least, to put it mildly, especially if you look at the wars we fought in the Middle East, the wars I fought in.

00:38:54.260 I lost my late wife. I lost countless friends fighting these wars that really, at the end of the day, only benefited Israel. 0.85

00:39:00.600 They obviously benefited the neocons and the military industrial complex, but there's lots of crossover there.

00:39:06.160 But we've just got to stop this. This next generation that's kind of coming into age and coming into political awareness,

00:39:12.540 they've got to draw a very hard line and say that foreign governments don't get to dictate our policy for us, period, end of story.

00:39:19.100 And we're not going to tolerate politicians that are deeply embedded with these guys.

00:39:22.380 We're not going to tolerate politicians that, even though it's legal, are going to take millions and millions of dollars and still pretend like they have some individual agency and they're not influenced by this policy.

00:39:32.920 Again, like I said in my video, the young people give me hope because I do think that they're not going to tolerate this.

00:39:38.260 Well, that's a perfect tie-in, okay, because what you're referencing is like it's good for the neocons, good for the military-industrial complex.

00:39:44.420 Who is that also good for?

00:39:45.500 The people that own the most stocks who are the oldest people.

00:39:48.780 So it's like this demonic negative feedback loop.

00:39:52.140 And there's a reason why there's support for these wars. Technically, there's a reason why these people do exist. Like they're not all bots. It's not all like a Mossad or CIA, like AI creation. There are real people out here that I've interviewed that proudly beat their chest and support these things. And they're all over the age of 65. I've met him. I make it my mission to talk to 20 people every day. I want to show you this street interview I did with the boomer. If we can go ahead and get that ready, because I'm on West Campus. I'm around all these young people.

00:40:21.080 The one old guy that I walk up to and ask a question, he's immediately like Heil Netanyahu.

00:40:27.020 Basically, go ahead and roll the clip. 0.94

00:40:28.800 Iran has been a cancer in the Middle East for a long time. 0.99

00:40:33.460 And this war is like chemotherapy, getting rid of a cancer. 0.99

00:40:37.900 My problem is I know too much about history.

00:40:40.020 And unfortunately, we have to do this.

00:40:42.240 It stinks. It sucks. I've lost a lot of money because of it. 0.99

00:40:45.740 Have you ever been to Dukkow?

00:40:47.120 You're talking about the Holocaust and stuff like that, right?

00:40:49.320 What does that have to do with the modern state of Israel? 0.94

00:40:51.620 It has everything to do with it. 0.52

00:40:53.020 If you go there or you go to Auschwitz, you're going to see what happened to them. 0.64

00:40:57.580 They have the right to return to what was originally their homeland.

00:41:02.620 3,000 years ago, the Bible says and all of that.

00:41:05.420 It's all in the prophecies.

00:41:06.860 So you talk about Dachau. 0.96

00:41:08.060 What about Gaza?

00:41:08.700 All right, pause it really quick. 0.94

00:41:10.600 All right, pause it really quick.

00:41:11.600 There's so much to break down here, okay? 0.79

00:41:14.220 there's this weird stolen valor complex that the boomers have about world war 0.61

00:41:19.420 two.

00:41:19.880 And they think because their parents were involved in it,

00:41:22.680 they were involved in it.

00:41:23.920 And it gives them infinite license to paint whatever worldview they want.

00:41:27.600 So that's number one.

00:41:28.860 And the young people reject that.

00:41:30.280 And Joe,

00:41:30.460 if you come at them with the message of exposing that,

00:41:32.780 I think that they're going to glom onto you.

00:41:34.720 Cause I like,

00:41:35.140 that's,

00:41:35.640 that's how I feel.

00:41:36.580 It's an outrage.

00:41:37.620 Number two,

00:41:38.420 he says it's fulfilled in all the prophecies.

00:41:41.640 I thought we were trying to stop evil theocracy.

00:41:44.220 I thought we were a constitutional republic. I didn't realize we were a theocracy as well.

00:41:49.100 So you see the insanity and it's just they live in like a Marvel movie they've created for

00:41:53.920 themselves. You understand because you've literally been there and done that. But the

00:41:57.720 younger people understand kind of on an instinctual level because everything's always gotten worse

00:42:01.640 around us. The policies that have led us here are not things that we voted for or things that we

00:42:07.160 wanted. They were pushed on us from decades prior. And a lot of these things, especially things the

00:42:12.260 cia does and military other organizations it's something that's handed down via administration

00:42:16.860 to administration administration and it's like uh webs within webs and it just gets messed up

00:42:21.740 so what do you think about all of this i think i mean i think you're right that the the boomer

00:42:27.340 generation like they they have been pretty heavily propagandized the war propaganda

00:42:31.100 unfortunately still works on a lot of them there's a whole other element of you know uh

00:42:35.040 evangelical christianity i'm a christian i'm a follower of christ sure um but there there is a

00:42:40.140 whole propaganda wing that's kind of taken that over to weave in, you know, the state,

00:42:45.080 the secular state of Israel as being part of prophecy, which it just doesn't make any

00:42:48.660 sense. 0.96

00:42:49.820 But again, like I think some of those boomers, we might be able to wing back over to our 0.98

00:42:53.540 side. 0.90

00:42:53.820 But even then, like all his arguments, it's like, OK, fine.

00:42:56.400 Even if all that what you're saying is true, what does that have to do with like enabling

00:42:59.620 the Israelis to invade Iran, making gas prices go up here?

00:43:04.000 I just think that logic, even if you believed like, I don't know, half of what that guy

00:43:08.180 was saying you're still gonna have a really hard time justifying this war and that's where i think

00:43:12.900 like the the boomers are just they've lost the younger generation they've really lost the plot

00:43:17.460 and where the boomer generation is getting most their information it's you know it's from cable

00:43:22.020 tv it's from the newspapers it's from mailers and the mail when i ran for congress uh you know just

00:43:27.620 a couple years ago i didn't realize that people still like looked at the things they got in the

00:43:31.540 mail no no you have to buy mailers because they actually work that that blew my mind but it's 0.97

00:43:36.180 true however like as the boomers phase out i mean and we get more young people to vote this is why 0.68

00:43:41.200 i tell the young people they got to get out there and vote because like we don't really even have

00:43:44.680 to persuade the young people very much instinctually like you said they understand like

00:43:49.160 i don't why am i supporting what's going on in gaza why am i why do i care about this whole iran

00:43:54.880 thing um if it was like we had to go strike a country that was about to strike us it was quick

00:43:59.460 and done really quickly and it was it was clearly defined and explained to them smart they'd get

00:44:04.420 They'd get on board as long as the facts checked out there.

00:44:08.320 But this is what gives me hope.

00:44:10.560 Boomers can be very frustrating to deal with, especially when we see the way that they vote and the logic that they use.

00:44:16.940 But their time, thankfully, is kind of coming to an end. 1.00

00:44:19.460 I don't want the boomers. 1.00

00:44:20.500 My parents are boomers. 1.00

00:44:21.400 I don't want my – 1.00

00:44:22.040 Sure.

00:44:22.660 But it happens.

00:44:23.640 They're losing political power.

00:44:25.340 No, my grandparents are boomers as well.

00:44:27.580 I have respect for my elders and everything.

00:44:29.620 But when you watch Fox News and when Thomas Massey comes out, it makes the statement of, hey, to Fox News only households, please vote for me.

00:44:37.620 I'm a good guy. We shouldn't be having to make appeals like that in this country.

00:44:41.840 You know, we should have free and open debate. But unfortunately, we have that elder segment of the population.

00:44:46.580 It's been so heavily propagandized through time. I often say this, you know, you're young, you're interfacing with screens all the time.

00:44:51.880 You're like, get away from me. But they have like this weird, hypnotic worship with the TV.

00:44:56.940 And I think, Joe, like, I really want to encourage you.

00:44:59.520 I'm just a bumpkin sitting here.

00:45:00.800 I really want to encourage you to do more media and, you know, maybe even to do your own show.

00:45:05.060 Hell, come on the new network.

00:45:06.100 Why not?

00:45:06.660 We're trying to go live 19 hours a day.

00:45:08.420 If you're able to kind of do deep dives and explain to the young people not just that this is happening, but that it doesn't make sense.

00:45:15.960 Like, we're looking for answers right now.

00:45:18.220 And we're so disrespected. 0.95

00:45:20.020 They disrespect us, everyone under the age of 30.

00:45:22.600 They say, oh, you just want to watch, you know, Internet streamers.

00:45:25.220 You just want to watch, you know, basically porn to your acting of people hitting each other and wearing wigs in the street.

00:45:30.380 No, we care about the world we live in.

00:45:32.840 We want to have children.

00:45:34.200 We want to have a country.

00:45:35.440 We want to have life.

00:45:36.860 Joe, do you love life?

00:45:38.020 What do you love about life?

00:45:40.220 I love everything about life.

00:45:41.080 I love our country.

00:45:41.720 I love my kids.

00:45:42.440 I got a 10-year-old and about to be a 9-year-old.

00:45:44.820 So I've got a lot left, a lot more life to live ahead of me.

00:45:49.160 I love this country.

00:45:50.000 I love our freedoms.

00:45:50.700 I love the people in our country.

00:45:51.980 I think it's the coolest thing that you talk to 20 people a day.

00:45:53.920 That's an awesome goal.

00:45:54.740 I think if more people did that, the country would just be in a better spot altogether.

00:46:00.500 But, yeah, there's a lot that's worth fighting for in our nation.

00:46:03.920 And I had an awesome opportunity in my last job right before I left the National Counterterrorism Center to work with a lot of people that were just coming into government service, a lot of Gen Zs and younger millennials, the under 30 crowd.

00:46:17.580 And they're sharp.

00:46:18.740 They're fired up.

00:46:19.360 They're patriotic.

00:46:20.060 And really, for me, a big reason why I left is I watched my generation, the post-9-11 generation, really the zeal and the passion that we had for our country after 9-11, I watched that be exploited.

00:46:30.740 We got sent off.

00:46:31.760 We thought we were going to save our nation. 0.93

00:46:33.240 We thought that we were going to be like the World War II generation. 0.89

00:46:35.780 We were going to go fight. 0.50

00:46:36.660 We were going to make our country better, come back, and the country would just continue to become more prosperous.

00:46:42.040 But after a while, I realized that we were lied to.

00:46:44.880 And I see the same hope and the same spark with the younger generation.

00:46:49.040 But what I would say the younger generation has that we didn't have is they actually have a healthy skepticism.

00:46:53.840 And as long as we can hone that skepticism in the right direction and, you know, like Charlie Kirk would say, keep questioning things.

00:47:00.540 It's the only thing that keeps us free. And so that's really what I respect about this younger generation is like they really take that to heart.

00:47:06.160 And so they give me a lot of hope. So, again, if we can get this younger generation out there to mobilize and to vote, we're going to take back the republic in a big way.

00:47:14.960 And I think big changes will come, whether that comes through the vehicle of the Republican Party or there actually is an independent and a third party that establishes just out of this frustration of the failure of the two political parties.

00:47:27.280 That's an excellent question. Sorry, I'm serial interrupter. Like I said, it's my worst quality.

00:47:31.260 But getting back into it. So we're about to enter the post-Trump era because I don't think he's going to run again for a third term.

00:47:37.740 He's an old guy. He's leaving after 2028. Right. That's what's going to happen.

00:47:41.240 We have a situation where we have these dark horse candidates, whether that's an MTG, whether that's a Thomas Massey, whether that's yourself, who knows, or somebody else.

00:47:49.480 And then you have kind of the more establishment wing of like a J.D., of like a Rubio, of some of these like big Republican governors, like a DeSantis or something.

00:47:57.500 I really think that once it's all said and done and once we kind of enter the twilight of the Trump presidency and move on, people are not prepared for the new world.

00:48:06.060 And I'm kind of happy because I remember the time before all this.

00:48:09.400 And we're going to return to that. And it really is going to be who has the most coherent message to get to the American people, because the American people haven't been given a message in a very long time.

00:48:18.640 It's a smothering. We're not told the truth about anything. We're just let off on a various like rabbit trail or wild goose chase.

00:48:25.940 We're going to enter a time where, sadly, things are going to get a lot worse and a lot more expensive.

00:48:30.660 But that's going to make people realize that we actually need a change.

00:48:34.180 Now, the dangerous thing about this, the dangerous thing about this situation is I was watching Harrison do a show on this the other day.

00:48:40.640 How does the communist agitator get the guy to join his side?

00:48:43.960 He says, well, your boss doesn't take care of you.

00:48:46.320 You don't have health care.

00:48:47.480 You can't afford to eat, can't afford to take care of your family, can't afford to live.

00:48:50.800 Come join our side, brother.

00:48:52.560 Come be our comrade.

00:48:53.960 And then millions die and cities burn.

00:48:56.440 So we have to have an answer on our side against that to say, hey, we actually have Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, Common Sense, all these great works from these great minds.

00:49:07.120 And if we just adopt the system we already are supposed to use, we'll be OK.

00:49:12.260 I think that's a real message to give people is just fall in love with this country again.

00:49:16.380 Fall in love with what this country really is, what America really is.

00:49:19.020 It is a republic. It is a representative democracy.

00:49:23.060 And I think at this point in time, Joe, it's very clear to everybody, even under the age of 65, I would just say broadly, that, you know, we have an occupied government and we don't have representative democracy.

00:49:33.380 And there was a revolution over that back in the day.

00:49:36.220 So what are your thoughts?

00:49:38.360 I think you bring up a good point about the post-Trump era, which, I mean, it's debatable.

00:49:43.220 After the midterms, it might start then because I think you're going to see a lot of Republicans kind of say like, well, you know, I got to start worrying about the next election.

00:49:49.960 So they're going to start moving away from President Trump.

00:49:51.640 But the problem that we're going to have that's going to create the space for a President Gavin Newsom or something even worse is going to be the amount of just mistrust there is with anybody with an R by their name because of what happened with MAGA.

00:50:05.640 What President Trump did in 2024 was historic.

00:50:08.240 The coalition that he built, the 77 million votes, the popular vote, the electoral college, because the platform that he ran on was amazing.

00:50:15.320 But then what he's done in the last 18 months, he's probably jaded a lot of people from voting for someone who identifies as a Republican or anybody who is in this last administration.

00:50:26.620 And so we're going to have to present an alternative, and it's not just going to be one person.

00:50:30.820 It's going to be an entire team.

00:50:31.920 We're going to have to have an entire team and say, hey, this is the guy at the top of the ticket.

00:50:35.060 This is going to be the vice president, and this is going to be the people who are going to staff out his cabinet.

00:50:39.440 And it has to be authentic people who have a track record of being honest.

00:50:43.900 This is why I think that Massey is just so powerful because he basically just has always voted in accordance with the Constitution, his principles, his district.

00:50:52.540 Even though he was punished for it, he just walked out with all of his integrity.

00:50:56.120 And I think that really resonates with people.

00:50:58.220 And we need to be able to communicate this on the media and in long form too because the standard like political talking points and the media clips that get sent out there, I just don't think people fall for those anymore.

00:51:10.980 No, it's done. It's over.

00:51:11.520 It's going to have to be these type of conversations.

00:51:12.980 it's done it's not acceptable anymore it makes us all vomit and we all recognize it we all see it

00:51:17.640 that's the fact that's reality it makes people so sick they're not even politically engaged and

00:51:21.940 that's a part of the trick that's a part of the whole psyop too is to make you feel so bad because

00:51:27.160 you see the propaganda that's put out that you don't even want to fix the problem and i think

00:51:31.280 it's worth reminding people like we just did we're followers of christ we believe in jesus christ to

00:51:35.240 live in god and all of that 100 and these people ultimately this is an atheist satanist project

00:51:40.760 OK, if you look at anything where there's mass death, where there's loss of life, spending money for no reason, waste, excess abuse, all of that, evil is a broken system, ladies and gentlemen.

00:51:50.700 And we do not want to become evil. We want to become good again. All right. I genuinely think that we can do that.

00:51:56.400 I want to ask you just a couple more questions about just party politics in general. What's your view on the Republican Party?

00:52:02.360 What's your view on kind of the more right wing side of it? What's your view on, you know, kind of the Groyper wing of the party, if you would?

00:52:10.760 Well, it's the traditional Republican Party that I think is – they have a lot of money, and they have a lot of resources and a lot of infrastructure.

00:52:18.220 But what's taking place right now with this administration, I just think that that old GOP, the country called GOP, the neocons, they're on their last leg.

00:52:27.680 Again, they're dangerous, though, because they have so much money, and they can get us involved in these wars.

00:52:31.720 Sure.

00:52:32.560 We've got to continue to focus our ire on that portion.

00:52:37.280 Everything else, I think we need to have a lot of unity. 0.91

00:52:40.000 So however people define themselves, if they say that we want to stay out of these foreign wars, we want to put our country first, we want to get rid of the foreign influence, we need to start building that coalition right there and just acknowledge up front, hey, that's the principle that we agree on, and we can disagree on almost everything else, and that's fine because we're going to have time to sort that out once we apply the tourniquet, so to speak.

00:53:02.140 all right be sure and follow rex jones at real jones news with a z at the end rex jones news

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00:54:01.120 For the network, just incredible times.

00:54:04.260 Joe Kent is so incredibly vindicated now.

00:54:09.140 And what a hero, not just in his 18 years, the military and his wife dying over there trying to save people in Syria,

00:54:15.580 but just him resigned to draw attention to how this war was a disaster just a few weeks into it.

00:54:20.280 And now here we are 95, 96 days in.

00:54:22.740 And it's just terrible that Trump is finally, at least on the surface, figuring it out and getting ready to exit out of there.

00:54:27.440 Trump's confirmed. He did say all that to Netanyahu

00:54:29.240 and leaked it to Axios. I told you

00:54:31.320 for all you that said I made it up and it wasn't real.

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00:58:33.940 That's rare. 1.00

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The Alex Jones Show Live - June 03, 2026

FULL INTERVIEW： Former Counterterrorism Head Joe Kent Joins The Alex Jones Network Live On-Air

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