The Alex Jones Show Live - FULL INTERVIEW：＂Get This In Front Of Congress & Let Us Testify!＂

00:00:00.000 Get us in front of Congress and let us testify.

00:00:04.860 If you think we're liars, put us in prison for the rest of our lives.

00:00:09.860 If you can prove we're lying.

00:00:12.320 And I'm telling that to all of Congress,

00:00:14.520 especially Randy Fine and Crenshaw and the rest of the AIPAC plunkies in the Congress. 0.99

00:00:22.300 Help us instead of helping Israel.

00:00:25.300 Help us heal. 0.60

00:00:27.160 Help America heal.

00:00:28.700 But they won't do that.

00:00:30.040 They won't give us that, Alex.

00:00:32.000 Why won't they give it to us? 0.99

00:00:33.800 Because Netanyahu and his back to Levi Askel, the one that cohorted with LBJ, that frickin' snake to kill us all. 0.99

00:00:44.920 Is that what our lives are worth, to be sacrificial lands for the government of Israel? 0.99

00:00:50.440 I don't think so. 0.96

00:00:51.560 We've got to cut off all ties with the Zionist state. 0.99

00:00:54.280 They're nothing but a pariah on the American public that have been forever. 1.00

00:00:59.820 So it's time we cut the ties and get them away from us.

00:01:04.820 Quit giving them money.

00:01:05.660 Quit giving anybody that wants money from the United States of America.

00:01:08.680 We're going to take care of our own citizens, no other.

00:01:12.420 Fix our infrastructure.

00:01:14.260 Take care of our veterans. 0.89

00:01:16.780 Treat each other like God wanted us to.

00:01:20.080 Love your neighbor instead of hating each other.

00:01:22.480 This country's divided as much as it ever was with Trump in office right now.

00:01:27.740 Same thing when the rest of them were in office.

00:01:31.860 Biden, the last president, the country was divided. 0.98

00:01:35.640 So we cut ties with Israel, get rid of Netanyahu and his garbage and his people around him and the people in Congress. 0.99

00:01:44.160 Those are the people that irk me the most. 0.99

00:01:47.940 And as you said, they brag about it, you know, that they flaunt it.

00:01:51.940 Yeah, we take money from them.

00:01:53.740 They're our greatest allies.

00:01:55.120 We need them.

00:01:55.860 For what?

00:01:56.340 They've never done anything for us.

00:01:58.480 We take our money and have our young soldiers killed in a war for them. 0.99

00:02:04.040 So I say screw them. 1.00

00:02:06.340 Screw their government. 1.00

00:02:08.200 I want nothing to do with them. 1.00

00:02:09.180 This isn't a Jewish thing. 1.00

00:02:11.360 This isn't about all Jews.

00:02:12.840 This is about the Zionist state of Israel.

00:02:15.620 There's a lot of Jewish people that dislike what they're doing over there now

00:02:19.900 and have disliked it for a long time.

00:02:21.680 So it's time for America to wake up.

00:02:24.840 Well, that's right. 0.76

00:02:25.300 Netanyahu hides behind Judaism, and then they twist the Bible and say, 0.55

00:02:31.180 follow whatever I say you're going to hell, and the Bible doesn't even say that. 0.59

00:02:34.920 It's preposterous. 0.99

00:02:37.980 It is preposterous, and it makes people look like we're a bunch of dummies, 0.99

00:02:46.420 and we're not a bunch of dummies. 0.98

00:02:47.660 we're here telling the truth 0.95

00:02:49.880 and the American people eat it up

00:02:52.880 but now they see

00:02:54.740 what's going on in Gaza and Lebanon

00:02:56.460 the savagery

00:02:58.360 the killing, the sniping of young

00:03:00.740 children getting water

00:03:01.860 I've seen some of those images

00:03:04.860 and I can't get them out of my mind Alex

00:03:06.860 it's disgusting

00:03:08.640 it's inhumane

00:03:09.740 the same images I saw

00:03:12.420 aboard the USS Liberty

00:03:13.740 young men blown to bits

00:03:17.360 When that torpedo exploded, it blew those men completely to bits.

00:03:23.400 When we got into Malta, the CTs went down, the spies,

00:03:29.360 they wouldn't let us go down there, the ship's company, because it was secret.

00:03:35.040 And they had to peel the pieces of those bodies out and put them in bags

00:03:40.240 and try to figure out who they are.

00:03:42.940 We've got a mass grave in Arlington that has our mates there that they couldn't identify.

00:03:51.660 Is it really all them?

00:03:53.600 I hope it is.

00:03:54.880 Pieces of them, but at least they got memorialized in Arlington.

00:03:59.820 And we go there quite often to give thanks for their sacrifice.

00:04:04.400 And that's what this is all about, is their sacrifice and America's sacrifice.

00:04:12.940 that's what the world really doesn't know today and i think it's why we were sworn to secrecy

00:04:26.360 is how close we really came

00:04:28.200 to a potential nuclear holocaust you know how much press the nuclear warheads got when they

00:04:36.540 landed in Cuba. Well, this was a thousand times worse, but nobody knows about it.

00:04:46.100 Another victim was the United States naval vessel Liberty. She was mistaken for an Egyptian vessel

00:04:51.200 and Israeli ships and planes torpedoed and strafed her. The story of the Liberty is not a whodunit,

00:04:56.660 it's the whodunit. The casualties were high, 34 American dead and 75 wounded. There were arguments

00:05:03.100 later about how the error happened the reality of what happened is it was not a mistake and it

00:05:08.860 was they wanted to sink us and what does that mean to this country case closed mistaken identity

00:05:15.340 we're very sorry is there anything else i can help you with

00:05:22.460 well there's there's no question it was a big cover-up from the top on down what did we do

00:05:28.860 wrong why were we why are we being labeled the bad guys and we can't talk about it for the next

00:05:36.620 40 plus years i never said anything to anyone no never i knew it'd be the end of my career if i

00:05:46.300 said anything in the naval security group everything was secret so just one additional

00:05:52.380 secret you had to keep you just couldn't talk about it it was such a secret and with our

00:05:59.900 lives threatened and who knows if they were monitoring us or doing whatever you ever repeat

00:06:05.180 one word about the uss liberty and who did it to you i'll guarantee i'll see you in leavenworth

00:06:11.660 or worse you know what worse means when you're told by the president of the united states 0.64

00:06:17.260 secretary of defense to keep your mouth shut don't say anything that's a direct order israel had

00:06:25.180 america by the scruff of the neck such was the need to cover up what america got up to during 0.57

00:06:32.540 the six day war this is a girlfriend from the mosad told him that he could raise all kinds of

00:06:39.660 money to continue the vietnam war he had been contacted by a man with a hoarse voice who said

00:06:46.700 that he'd been a pilot attacked his liberty and suddenly disappears there's no record can only

00:06:51.740 have suspected it was as he feared they deported him they turned him over to the israelis took him

00:06:57.900 back to israel court-martialed him secretly and maybe it executed the liberty is a microcosm of

00:07:03.580 this much bigger problem in the middle east and americans need to know what happened this story

00:07:11.020 has to be told

00:07:19.260 and so that we were under attack by unknown jet aircraft

00:07:31.900 they say get over it you don't get over something like this it haunts you

00:07:36.620 the men would bring the body pieces up to me and i tried to put them together to make a body out of

00:07:43.260 them i don't know what the hell i've been and i haven't taken time to find out i know nothing

00:07:48.220 about it what i'm about to tell you is for your ears only you are not to tell anyone during my

00:07:56.060 lifetime. I'm surprised I can even talk about that. Never say it. That type of horror, your

00:08:11.200 body is not going to remember. Your brain's not going to record. I think we sacrificed

00:08:21.480 a lot of people for

00:08:22.720 no good reason.

00:08:26.980 I'm not saying anything about the Liberty, period.

00:08:30.500 That's the

00:08:31.460 Sacrificing Liberty documentary, Incredible.

00:08:34.720 USSLiberty.org

00:08:35.760 We have Phil Turney.

00:08:37.800 Phil Turney on X.

00:08:39.400 PhilTurney.com. He has his new book out.

00:08:41.800 Stay Afloat from that day

00:08:43.660 to today.

00:08:45.380 USS Liberty Survivor, U.S. Navy veteran.

00:08:48.200 And I've interviewed Phil

00:08:49.280 quite a bit over the years.

00:08:51.560 I've been on air 32 years, and immediately a few years getting on air,

00:08:55.140 I learned about the Liberty and had a lot of folks on.

00:08:58.040 And then back in the day when Newsmax was more hardcore,

00:09:00.500 they had a bunch of people that worked for them,

00:09:03.020 and they were just like, how would you like to have Admiral Moore,

00:09:05.980 former chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, on?

00:09:07.580 Sure.

00:09:08.800 And then they were on about other topics and books they'd written.

00:09:12.580 I guess Newsmax was pushing.

00:09:13.700 But then they said, why don't I come back on about the Liberty?

00:09:16.760 So what's crazy is we found some of those old interviews 25 years and back,

00:09:20.840 but I got to interview the head judge advocate people.

00:09:24.580 I mean, like most of the living ones,

00:09:26.660 I got to interview the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

00:09:29.960 I got to interview all these people,

00:09:32.520 including people on the aircraft carriers that witness what you see out there.

00:09:37.100 So for me, when I see the author of Stay Afloat, Phil Turney,

00:09:42.780 you know, in Congress and bombshell, they turned back the planes twice and bombshell LBJ was

00:09:48.760 involved. It is a bombshell because people are learning about it for the first time.

00:09:52.920 But for me, I don't even know how to address this because I know it was totally premeditated. 0.81

00:09:58.200 They even had pilots that attacked the Liberty Go Public, you know, years ago with Israeli papers. 0.80

00:10:02.660 We know this was LBJ doing a Gulf of Tonkin 2.0. You can ask what the reasons were. 0.57

00:10:07.760 Then some of the people that only care about bashing Israel get mad and say,

00:10:10.100 Why are you saying we were involved?

00:10:12.100 That's a cover-up.

00:10:12.900 No, that's what the survivors will tell you.

00:10:14.600 It's what Admiral Moore told me.

00:10:16.380 That's how we know it was totally staged.

00:10:18.520 We don't know who cooked it up. 1.00

00:10:20.020 The Israelis are LBJ first. 0.99

00:10:22.260 But a couple of years before, he got us in the Vietnam War with the Gulf of Tonkin that didn't happen.

00:10:26.060 That was declassified 2004.

00:10:30.120 So I'm going to try to just give Phil the floor here because he can go wherever he wants.

00:10:35.380 Most of our listeners already know it was a staged event.

00:10:37.940 And my only big question is, where do we go now, 59 years later?

00:10:42.080 It's got to be vindicating to see Congress starting to talk about it.

00:10:45.660 And we know the Israel lobby is not happy about this. 0.55

00:10:48.460 Israel is run by some of the very same type of folks now that are easily ready to do a

00:10:53.220 false flag to play victim.

00:10:55.720 We know they funded Hamas, stood down on October 7th, very sad for those that died.

00:10:59.700 But we need to know about governments doing this, not just Israel. 0.53

00:11:03.320 And of course, 9-11 has Israel's fingerprints all over it as well.

00:11:05.880 Netanyahu was in charge then.

00:11:06.940 So Phil, Phil Turney, it just says his name twice on X, Phil Phil Turney and philturney.com and the new book that I just started reading, Stay Afloat, From That Day to Today, and people can find that at philturney.com and more.

00:11:22.320 and he wants to get into a bunch of topics.

00:11:26.180 Was the USS Liberty clearly identified?

00:11:28.360 The attack itself, communications jammed,

00:11:30.320 life raft survived and survival,

00:11:33.360 rescue aircraft recall, the investigation,

00:11:35.600 Captain Ward, Boston affidavit,

00:11:36.960 Admiral Thomas Moore findings,

00:11:38.640 stay afloat, book investigation.

00:11:40.880 And that's great to know what happened.

00:11:42.460 I think we should spend some time on that,

00:11:43.760 but also the motive and what needs to happen next.

00:11:47.460 So as long as he apportions some time for that,

00:11:50.020 we'll be very, very happy.

00:11:51.300 So, sir, thanks for spending time with us today. It was great talking to you on Capitol Hill.

00:11:55.840 And thank you for your service to this country and thank you for your service exposing this great evil.

00:11:59.760 Where would you like to begin, sir?

00:12:03.260 Thank you, Alex. I mean, what an honor to be with you.

00:12:06.240 And thank you so much for remembering the crew of the USS Liberty for all these years and running down people you've talked to,

00:12:15.800 like one of my dear friends, Admiral Moore, and so many more.

00:12:20.400 But, yeah, the USS Liberty has been covered up for so long.

00:12:27.680 And by who?

00:12:30.420 Our own government.

00:12:32.640 And they set us up in 1967, probably a year before, Alex.

00:12:39.540 They attacked us.

00:12:41.740 We were set up to go to the med and to be sunk.

00:12:47.100 Levy Askel and LBGA cooked up a plan

00:12:52.220 to get us into the Met, which we did do

00:12:56.660 and we always went to Africa

00:13:00.240 as our steaming ports were

00:13:04.420 up and down the west coast of Africa

00:13:06.080 taking signals out of the sky

00:13:08.840 like we were legally doing

00:13:12.660 and we ended up in Abidjan, Africa

00:13:16.000 And we were there about three or four hours.

00:13:19.820 And he says, get in the way.

00:13:20.900 Get in the way.

00:13:21.640 You're going to road to Spain.

00:13:24.180 And we didn't know what for.

00:13:26.320 So we took out of there as quickly as we could, got everybody back aboard.

00:13:30.600 And that old Victory World War II ship was pushing as fast as you can, 18 knots.

00:13:37.740 We took the governor's office.

00:13:39.520 They wanted us in that area very quick.

00:13:43.980 We picked up some Marines.

00:13:46.000 And some linguists, which two of the Marines were blown to bits by the torpedo, and several other CIA, NSA-type guys.

00:13:58.040 Alan Blue was one of them.

00:13:59.260 He worked for the NSA, very high level.

00:14:04.900 The whole ship was high level.

00:14:06.360 I mean, I wasn't a spy.

00:14:09.200 I was in ship's company.

00:14:10.300 but we all knew when we left roadie we were going to do a war zone alex we asked for a destroyer

00:14:17.520 escort we were denied not once but twice they said you have nothing to worry about you're going

00:14:25.060 to the area your flag is your banner that is your protection if anything happens to you

00:14:31.960 we'll have aircraft in the air to help you immediately and that's why you flew an extra

00:14:37.040 large flag and i should have just been up front you know you guys are were one of the major spy

00:14:42.420 ships in the navy arsenal and now the most decorated u.s ship in u.s history so you're a

00:14:47.500 well-known spy ship which also goes to the preposterousness of the of the israelis trying

00:14:55.600 to claim you were somebody else's ship absolutely uh that was the whole plan but you know what we

00:15:03.080 did what they couldn't figure out, and I don't think, I still think they're scratching their

00:15:08.180 heads. We took this two-hour attack with no help coming from our government, and they weren't

00:15:17.340 supposed to come. LBGA called them back along with McNamara, and it continued. I mean, think about

00:15:24.060 this attack, two hours of nothing but rockets, cannons, machine guns, napalm, torpedoes.

00:15:33.180 And it was constant, and they were vicious, Alex. They were so vicious, they wanted us all dead.

00:15:41.400 We put three life rafts over. There were only three left. They shot them out of the water,

00:15:46.720 war crimes we filed the war crimes report in 205 it's never been even talked about it they just 0.99

00:15:55.220 threw it in a shit can and left us alone so we're still alone except for guys like you

00:16:01.120 and the great thomas massey god bless him for what he did you know he didn't have to do that but he 0.96

00:16:07.280 did and i'm so appreciative of the whole crew is and it's important to add this is basically an

00:16:12.640 unarmed ship and i don't mean to be blasphemous trump and other people i'm trying to bash

00:16:16.560 Trump, but a lot of his cabinet keep comparing him to Jesus, and the persecution he went through

00:16:20.720 is as great as Jesus or maybe more. Some said, well, you can compare this ship to Jesus being

00:16:27.340 flogged and the crown of thorns and the side pierced. I mean, the torture this ship went

00:16:32.480 under reminds me of how Jesus was tortured, and this was intense and long.

00:16:38.080 It was intense and long, and it was vicious, you know, and you bring up the Lord, Jesus Christ.

00:16:44.120 He was our saver. He's the one that held that ship together. Nobody else come to help us but Jesus

00:16:49.720 Christ. We defeated the mighty IDF without firing a shot in this two-hour bloodbath.

00:17:02.360 Our government set us up the sink to bring us into World War III on the side of Israel. 0.77

00:17:07.800 There were nuclear aircraft in the air, Alex, ready to come and nuke Cairo. 0.86

00:17:12.760 So let's stop there because that's where I wanted to go. 0.86

00:17:15.600 And thank God you just did it. 0.94

00:17:16.900 Nobody ever talks about why they wanted to do it, how it was meant to trigger World War

00:17:20.460 III, how Egypt was connected and Russia.

00:17:22.620 Take your time on that.

00:17:23.500 We can go to the next hour if need be.

00:17:24.580 Please continue.

00:17:27.480 Yes.

00:17:29.120 When, which we did not know, there was SAC aircraft in the air even before we got attacked,

00:17:35.940 Alex, to bomb Cairo.

00:17:39.040 And they were turned around at the last minute. 0.92

00:17:41.480 It's the same thing.

00:17:42.500 There were other nuclear aircraft on their way from, I believe, one of the America or the Saratoga.

00:17:51.660 And for folks that don't know, describe the war going on at this time, set up a long time.

00:17:56.220 You're put as the sacrificial pawn.

00:17:57.980 You later learn all of this.

00:17:59.200 But explain to people who don't know this.

00:18:01.520 well what they what they don't know is alex is uh the duplicity of our government

00:18:10.340 then and today nothing's changed nothing's changed uh war after war after war for the

00:18:18.720 zionist state and who pays for it uh those are very good photos by the way you can see what

00:18:24.480 they did to us but the uh the wars have never changed out and i don't know how to explain it 0.98

00:18:29.780 or how to make people understand how crooked our government is,

00:18:34.740 beholden to design a state.

00:18:36.260 They're trying to torpedo the peace talks right now with Iran.

00:18:42.260 You see what Israel's doing.

00:18:43.960 And they've said they are, but just to remind people, 0.72

00:18:45.700 so there's this big war going in 67.

00:18:47.820 You guys are deployed right for when it starts,

00:18:50.640 and then you were meant to be sunk, and then from what I've been told,

00:18:53.280 blamed on Egypt as a pretext to go to war with Egypt,

00:18:56.080 and they thought Russia would come in and we'd be in a full war, correct? 0.54

00:18:59.780 Absolutely. You're absolutely correct on that. And us not sinking, Alex, saved millions of lives. Innocent people have been slaughtered if we sank. And that was the whole plan. It was nothing but a land grab then, just like it is now. 1.00

00:19:19.400 Wow, how historic. And you were there. Please continue. There's so many places to go. Where should we go next with this?

00:19:29.780 Well, there's the Alcazir, and there's the USS Liberty.

00:19:35.280 And that's what they said we were, the Alcazir, an old horse transport that was docked in

00:19:40.600 some port half sunk.

00:19:42.840 And that was the excuse, and we were told by our government to either accept that or

00:19:47.460 end up in prison or worse.

00:19:49.880 We just went through hell on earth, and our own government, our Admiral Isaac Kidd ordered

00:19:56.320 us to shut up or we'd end up in jail or worse and you could see the difference in the two ships

00:20:03.280 how could they mistake that well that was just an excuse for a mistaken identity

00:20:08.880 and our government's still lying and it's been lying forever

00:20:12.680 for folks that don't know most people know about the attack but 0.57

00:20:17.240 you guys all got threatened with prison or worse meaning dads if you need to shut up then how did

00:20:24.380 They end up having the inquiry.

00:20:27.280 I know I interviewed some of the judges.

00:20:29.940 Literally, I guess they all decided to go public right before they died.

00:20:32.300 They all came on my show, and it seemed like a month later, they'd all be dead.

00:20:34.940 I had Admiral Moore on a few times, and then he died shortly after.

00:20:39.540 I guess they were really spilling their guts there at the end.

00:20:41.560 But these guys early on were heroes, I guess, internally.

00:20:45.440 A lot of this came out on record that you learned a lot more on the Naval Inquiry.

00:20:49.520 I think that might be important to tell folks about.

00:20:51.060 The Naval Empowery, the 9th of June, we met up with the USS America and the ancillary ships, the Massey and the Davis.

00:21:03.720 They came aboard and helped us with some damage control.

00:21:07.160 They took off the wounded, the most seriously wounded.

00:21:10.400 I was walking wounded.

00:21:12.140 They took them to the America, and we were on our way to Malta with a 40-by-40-foot torpedo hole in our side.

00:21:19.740 Admiral Isaac Kidd

00:21:22.040 in Ward Boston

00:21:23.220 came aboard our ship and interrogated

00:21:26.120 us and

00:21:27.920 read us a riot

00:21:30.220 act. They didn't tell us

00:21:31.900 good job, good on you guys, we're

00:21:33.860 staying afloat or nothing, it's just 0.98

00:21:35.340 you better shut up, this is top 0.88

00:21:37.960 secret, you won't now tell anybody. 0.99

00:21:40.840 But the point

00:21:41.540 with Ward

00:21:43.840 Boston, he had a declaration

00:21:45.540 he put out before he died

00:21:47.420 that him and Kidd knew it was a

00:21:49.720 a pre-planned murderous attack. 1.00

00:21:52.880 In fact, he called them murdering bastards 1.00

00:21:55.420 in his declaration. 1.00

00:21:59.280 And we turned that into a criminal court, too,

00:22:03.100 and nothing's been done about it.

00:22:04.820 We gave it to Tom Massey last week,

00:22:06.940 a week ago today,

00:22:08.720 and he put it into the record. 0.96

00:22:12.720 And we're still treated like trash. 0.99

00:22:17.540 In fact, the whole country has been treated like trash. 0.97

00:22:21.780 When they attacked our ship, they didn't just attack us. 0.92

00:22:24.900 They attacked every human being.

00:22:26.700 They attacked you, Alex.

00:22:27.680 They attacked everybody.

00:22:29.160 And they're still doing it, and they're still getting by with it.

00:22:31.840 So what are we going to do about it?

00:22:33.620 I'd like to get a campaign going so fast, so far, that they cannot deny the truth. 0.91

00:22:41.580 And I do believe the spearhead of breaking the back of the Zionist state is the truth about the USS Liberty. 0.90

00:22:53.900 I agree with you. 0.94

00:22:55.080 I mean, let's elaborate, because the same problems we faced then, we face now even bigger.

00:23:01.380 Yes, absolutely.

00:23:02.420 Absolutely. You know, I always think, I go back and I think about LBJ was first and then the USS Liberty and on and on, Alex. And you're probably one of the smartest guys around.

00:23:20.900 And I respect you and trust your vision and what you say.

00:23:29.360 And what do you think, what is the best way for us to conduct ourselves going forward?

00:23:37.580 Well, I'm smart enough to know that I don't have all the answers, but I think what you're doing in Congress, what you're doing with the films, the books on air, this is an idea whose time has come.

00:23:48.780 people weren't ready for this. They were very naive. So you've had to wait 59 years.

00:23:53.940 And I think it's calling on the American people to understand that the same system in our

00:23:58.100 government, the Israeli government, that were heavily involved killing JFK, getting us into 0.85

00:24:03.640 all these other wars, using the same tricks, like a Gulf of Tonkin, that Israel is not going to give 0.73

00:24:08.860 up dragging us into World War III with Iran and then Russia and others. So it's really a life 0.90

00:24:14.980 and death situation currently to expose what happened to the U.S.'s liberty, even though in

00:24:19.820 some court of law, they're not going to get convicted. In the court of public opinion,

00:24:24.000 they will to then inoculate the public to understand the major threats we face now.

00:24:29.080 I mean, I think what you've already said, the fact is it's you open with, look at them openly

00:24:33.420 sabotaging the peace. Look at them dragging us into this war. Look at how it's killing the world

00:24:37.880 economy. I mean, I think you've hit on it is that we have to explain to people that

00:24:42.140 this is the government, the regime that's being used by our own deep state to control our government.

00:24:48.780 And so this is a pertinent front burner issue right now.

00:24:53.020 I mean, I think that's really the articulation that needs to be made.

00:24:58.120 Absolutely. You're absolutely correct.

00:25:01.580 And for us to move forward with the USS Liberty,

00:25:06.120 since we've broken the ice with Congressman Tom Massey,

00:25:10.480 and God bless him for having us up there.

00:25:13.040 And I might add that my partner, Ray Douster,

00:25:18.740 that helped me with the book, great guy, great friend,

00:25:23.260 and my son, Bryce, facilitated this by getting in front of it

00:25:31.100 and getting a hold of Massey when the time was right.

00:25:34.440 And it worked out beautifully.

00:25:36.120 It was about as good as you could get.

00:25:40.240 I'm so glad you got my book, by the way.

00:25:42.620 But there it is.

00:25:46.560 Yes, sir.

00:25:47.380 Thank you.

00:25:48.060 I'm so happy you got it.

00:25:49.560 You're welcome.

00:25:50.500 I'm going to read it.

00:25:51.100 I'm going to read it.

00:25:53.920 Yes, it's a very good book.

00:25:55.960 In fact, I've gotten some great reviews from even my own shipmates.

00:26:03.680 Larry Bowen was one of them.

00:26:05.080 Well, part of getting the truth out of people reading this book and watching the film we just showed a clip of, where's the best place for people to get the book?

00:26:13.620 To get the book, the best place to get it, if you want a signed copy, is just go to philterneypodcast.com.

00:26:20.720 You get a signed copy, or you can get it on Amazon.

00:26:24.420 And they're selling out.

00:26:25.880 They're selling fast.

00:26:26.980 So go get a book and learn the truth.

00:26:29.780 And this book is...

00:26:33.260 And for folks that already know the truth, get the book and give it to friends and family.

00:26:37.900 You're the emissaries of the truth to stop the very same system from getting us into the same type of scam right now.

00:26:44.800 So let's come back and go more into the attack, more into what came out, 0.50

00:26:49.560 and then contemporarily what you think of the Israel lobby today, openly trying to take over the Pentagon,

00:26:55.020 and not just that, even federal law enforcement.

00:26:58.180 We'll be right back.

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00:28:55.440 all right phil tourney's our guest i meant to ask him during the break it was still a bit longer

00:29:04.900 the next hour we could open phones up for him but we'll we'll see how he feels at the end of the

00:29:08.440 hour but he sent me a bunch of really powerful slides that remind me of a lot of things even

00:29:13.140 I know I've studied this, we forget a lot.

00:29:16.100 On one of the slides, Admiral Thomas Moore, former chairman of the Joint Justice Staff,

00:29:20.780 chaired an independent commission that concluded there was compelling evidence

00:29:24.020 that the attack was deliberate and that the U.S. government covered up the true facts.

00:29:29.420 And then, of course, we had them declassified in 2004 that the Gulf of Tonka never happened.

00:29:33.780 But the ships came back to San Diego and was in the local paper.

00:29:37.000 It became a rumor after that, but it was in the paper, no, we weren't attacked, it was staged.

00:29:40.820 The LBJ was pissed about that.

00:29:41.980 So this time, they actually set it up with their little gallant ally to attack it, but then it wouldn't sink, and imagine how embarrassing that was internally in the Navy, and then since then, and then all that went in to covering that up.

00:29:59.160 So, head of the USS Liberty Survivors Association, author of Stay Afloat, from that day to today, 59 years to finally see some justice, at least in the public, come out.

00:30:12.140 The attempts to suppress this have just, I mean, nobody knew about the liberty 40, 50 years ago, very few.

00:30:17.560 Then 30 years ago, some, 20 years ago, a lot, 10 years, but the Internet, people learning about this.

00:30:22.960 And now with your book and these films and Congress and all of it, now that people are discovering what you lived through and then discovering all the subsequent crimes to cover things up, what is your gut-level prediction? 0.70

00:30:38.780 I mean, I only see this getting bigger in light of Israel trying to keep us in these wars because, again, it's all interconnected. 0.68

00:30:44.840 And then tell us about Admiral Moore's commission.

00:30:47.380 yeah uh it was a more commission that he uh had uh generals and admins uh look over it

00:31:02.340 and it was an independent investigation and they came up with the fact that there was no way

00:31:08.020 in god's green earth it was mistaken identity and admiral moore has said over and over again

00:31:14.580 and he wants the Congress to investigate it.

00:31:18.920 His words went silent.

00:31:21.180 Now, this is an admiral that served in, you know, the Atlantic Fleet and the Pacific Fleet,

00:31:27.460 not at the same time, but a Supreme Commander.

00:31:30.740 He became chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

00:31:33.360 When he tells you something, you should listen.

00:31:35.320 And by the way, he told me, Phil, he says, during the Yom Kippur War,

00:31:39.420 I was told by an Israeli ambassador that they needed this, they needed that, to have it ready.

00:31:49.800 He said, I can't do that without an obligation for Congress.

00:31:53.500 The ambassador told him, don't worry about Congress.

00:31:56.420 I'll take care of them.

00:31:57.260 Just load the wagon. 0.78

00:31:59.840 So that's how powerful this AIPAC Congress is.

00:32:06.420 and, regrettably, our AIPAC president that has covered up everything from day one since he got into office.

00:32:21.060 You know, I thought everything was going to be different with him, but I was wrong.

00:32:25.200 And I want to speak more to that in a moment, but just back that up, that image of Captain McGonigal,

00:32:31.960 talking about what a great guy he was and talking about the attack.

00:32:33.800 I want to go back to this because if Israel was telling one of the top commanders in the U.S. military, later the chairman of the Joint, do you worry about Congress?

00:32:42.080 We got them covered. We own them.

00:32:44.340 I mean, obviously, Israel wasn't even known, had that power back then.

00:32:47.260 Now we know they did. 0.77

00:32:48.260 Now it's way greater, and now they brag they own us.

00:32:51.500 I mean, just the arrogance of this. 0.77

00:32:53.780 Well, let's cover Israel now and then get back to Captain McGonigal and what he thought about this and obviously wish he was still here today. 0.89

00:33:00.680 But, I mean, obviously, do you agree with me that Israel's power over us is much greater than it was then? 0.83

00:33:07.920 It is a million times more powerful. 0.93

00:33:10.600 If they could get by with murdering Americans on the high seas, they can get by with anything.

00:33:16.780 And that's what they're doing right now.

00:33:19.240 So the American public has got to understand and know, and I see it happening every day, and I'm sure you do too, 0.90

00:33:28.400 that they're starting to wake up because we're not built to be genocidal maniacs like Israel is. 0.80

00:33:40.240 And the people are worried, and they're frightened for other people's lives, at least I am, 0.78

00:33:46.440 and many others in Gaza and Lebanon and what they're doing.

00:33:50.140 But it's just, Alex, it's mind-boggling.

00:33:54.460 I walked the halls of Congress last December, and I did talk to Massey in the elevator and gave him the Ward-Boston Declaration.

00:34:05.260 But every other person I talked to or tried to was offended if I talked about the USS Liberty.

00:34:13.500 And, you know, it's all in my book.

00:34:17.540 It's a memoir of sorts, and if you really want to find out the truth, that's where it's at. 0.76

00:34:22.020 But I was surprised that all the Israeli flags I saw in the halls of Congress, it almost made me want to throw up. 0.79

00:34:31.060 And it's just nothing's changed. 1.00

00:34:34.100 Worse, worse.

00:34:35.040 It's getting worse by the moment.

00:34:37.180 And I'm afraid about what's going to happen in the future. 0.82

00:34:39.720 Maybe today, tomorrow, whenever Israel says for America to jump, I still think they're going to jump.

00:34:47.300 I think Netanyahu and Epstein's got them all wrapped up. 0.66

00:34:52.020 And then now Trump on the surface is saying, oh, Netanyahu keeps the war going, it's his fault, looking for an off-ramp.

00:34:57.380 I mean, I hope that's for real from Trump, but a microcosm of this is political correctness.

00:35:03.280 You have Austin Metcalf stabbed to death for no reason, and then it turned out, because they did this,

00:35:09.560 they gave an award at the graduation ceremony to Carmelo Anthony and gave him his diploma

00:35:19.520 and then basically said nice things about him and they knew that was so the family said hey

00:35:23.760 will you say something nice about our son in remembering him the school said no your son

00:35:28.360 will not be mentioned so he's a guy that's murdered he can't be mentioned and now the

00:35:32.440 convicted killer is a is a hero and and so for you guys you're attacked your buddies die you go

00:35:37.940 through all this you're threatened you know the truth it comes out and then you're there and

00:35:42.540 there's really flags everywhere and people act like you've done something bad they act like you 0.95

00:35:46.880 took a shit on the floor or something it's just upside down world it is an upside down world and 0.90

00:35:53.460 how did we get there you know it's you know i was all in favor of israel uh even during the attack 0.99

00:36:00.660 uh because we didn't know who was attacking us it was unmarked yet aircraft we thought it was

00:36:06.100 the arabs doing it but uh we didn't find out who was attacking this until the torpedo boats got 0.50

00:36:13.800 there and we thought oh here they're they're coming to help us thank god and no they weren't 1.00

00:36:19.440 there to help us they were to murder they were going to murder the rest of us but they he just

00:36:24.400 couldn't get the job done with a 25 minute attack or more from the air and an hour and a half of

00:36:33.200 torpedo boats strafing burning using our firefighters and everybody and i was i was part of

00:36:41.260 that crew but uh that wasn't it they they brought over troop carrying helicopters alex to finish the

00:36:50.760 job they were going to scuttle the ship kill us all scuttle the ship and still blame it on

00:36:57.020 uh the arab states and us not sinking uh was a miracle we all knew it that was another question

00:37:06.580 Why the helicopters with the Marines, if I remember correctly, why did they not go ahead and carry out the attack at the end there?

00:37:16.120 I believe, and I think most of my crewmates believe, they confessed too fast that they mistakenly attacked a flagged American ship.

00:37:28.880 If they had just waited and not said anything to anybody, they could have went ahead and finished this off easy.

00:37:36.580 But they got caught with a message that was sent out, and they said, yeah, it was us, but they didn't figure that would ever happen.

00:37:48.960 I mean, how could this old ship, a World War II victory hold ship, with 294 souls aboard, turned into the most sophisticated spy ship in the world, withstand what we withstood, over 850 cannon rocket holds, over 5,000 armor-piercing bullets, napalm burning stuff, 40 by 40 foot old torpedo side of the ship.

00:38:18.960 And we didn't sink. It's a miracle by the grace of God.

00:38:24.200 And then it came out, because I remember being told this by the admirals and people before they died, that indeed they had nukes in the air.

00:38:30.620 They were getting ready to use the strike on you guys as the pretext to just start a war.

00:38:36.160 And they believe the Russians, this is Operation Northwoods 2.0, that plan was to attack Cuba, attack our bases first, and Cuba did it, attack inside the U.S., and Cuba did it, to lure the Russians into full war.

00:38:46.140 But by the grace of God, Kennedy saw through that, shut that down, so they killed him.

00:38:51.460 But, I mean, if they had sunk you guys, we would probably have a totally different history right now.

00:38:55.820 I do think the hand of God was on that ship.

00:38:57.920 Is that what you're saying?

00:39:00.480 Yes, sir, absolutely, Alex.

00:39:02.020 The hand of God was on that ship today, and the hand of God is still on us survivors right now that are speaking out.

00:39:09.540 Listen, we don't leave – I mean, 34 young men, beautiful young men.

00:39:14.520 We were only 20, 19, 21-year-old kids, and they lost their lives that day.

00:39:21.780 And we survived.

00:39:24.340 And it's been my mission for the last 43 years since I've been speaking about this,

00:39:29.900 and I haven't shut up since.

00:39:32.440 Those men deserved a life.

00:39:33.980 They deserved to get married, have a family, have grandkids, live a life. 0.91

00:39:39.620 But no, they were slaughtered by the Zionist state of Israel. 0.91

00:39:42.420 and our government paid them billions of dollars for doing it they're still paying 0.63

00:39:47.700 billions of dollars for murdering americans i'm not just talking about the war to liberty i'm

00:39:54.260 talking about all the wars in the middle east yeah we'll look at look at 9-11 look at 9-11

00:39:59.380 that's the same thing so to talk about the captain because he he didn't last as long as a lot of you

00:40:04.060 guys i heard he was quite a hero and when he was alive what was his view of the situation

00:40:08.160 Captain McGonagall

00:40:11.520 yeah he was our skipper

00:40:13.540 he was a commander at that time

00:40:16.300 E-5 or O-5

00:40:17.920 and he made

00:40:20.680 a full bird

00:40:21.760 captain after the attack

00:40:24.260 he was a great man

00:40:28.360 a great leader

00:40:29.180 and a friend

00:40:31.060 and he went through a lot in his life

00:40:34.140 but

00:40:35.820 Captain McGonagall

00:40:38.000 finally confessed that he didn't think it was a mistaken identity.

00:40:43.140 Now, you can imagine the pressure they put on him.

00:40:47.440 Just the pressure they put on a little old

00:40:49.980 E-4 like me. But he

00:40:53.980 ended up getting the Medal of Honor and got a brand new ship and

00:40:57.600 retired as a captain. And we all love

00:41:01.860 the captain. We understand the pressure he was under.

00:41:05.340 it had to be enormous uh you know what they did to the pueblo skipper hooker they blamed him for

00:41:13.300 everything but it wasn't his fault well going back then you mentioned two of the two of the

00:41:17.960 admirals covering up early on but correct me if i'm wrong one of them ended up being the one that

00:41:22.080 gave the information when he died that helped expose all this so it so it shows they're following

00:41:26.280 orders but then at the end they tended to tell the truth they tell the truth that comes out like

00:41:33.740 uh ward boston and kid that the truth came out but uh that was years later and nothing really

00:41:40.780 happened over that either i mean it was ignored by the congress you know you write the congress

00:41:45.480 and they tell you there's there's always been an investigation four or five or ten of them 0.63

00:41:49.080 there's never been one investigation they're all a bunch of liars and let's be clear what's 0.97

00:41:53.600 happening you got guys that are christian and they're getting ready to die and they don't want 0.95

00:41:57.460 to go to hell and they're thinking i gotta get this off my chest and those are the top guys that

00:42:01.380 We're there running the cover-up, and they supposedly have no credibility.

00:42:07.220 Right.

00:42:07.860 Absolutely.

00:42:08.460 No credibility because it didn't matter.

00:42:13.440 They got scammed or told by President Johnson, you better do it or else.

00:42:21.480 And so they did.

00:42:22.280 But you're right.

00:42:23.440 They didn't want to go to hell with that on their conscience.

00:42:26.440 but I wish it had come out a heck of a lot sooner than what they did

00:42:31.040 because it could have made a little bit of difference in our lives

00:42:34.300 and the lives of all Americans with the truth about the USS Liberty.

00:42:40.620 Well, you asked me the question.

00:42:41.960 I'll ask it back at you.

00:42:44.440 I'm certainly not Karnak, magnificent.

00:42:46.460 What do you think needs to happen now to move the ball,

00:42:49.280 which is moving really fast.

00:42:50.600 There's a lot of momentum now.

00:42:51.860 What do you think needs to happen?

00:42:52.760 we've got to cut off all ties 1.00

00:42:56.540 with the Zionist state 1.00

00:42:57.560 they're nothing but a pariah 1.00

00:42:58.680 on the American public

00:43:00.740 they have been forever

00:43:01.940 so it's time we cut the ties

00:43:05.560 and get them away from us

00:43:08.040 quit giving them money

00:43:08.840 quit giving anybody

00:43:09.740 that wants money

00:43:10.480 from the United States of America 1.00

00:43:11.860 we're going to take care

00:43:12.640 of our own citizens

00:43:13.480 no other

00:43:14.880 fix our infrastructure

00:43:16.840 take care of our veterans

00:43:18.680 treat each other like

00:43:22.180 God wanted us to love your neighbor instead of hating each other.

00:43:25.860 This country is divided as much as it ever was with Trump in office right now.

00:43:31.040 Same thing when the rest of them were in office.

00:43:35.140 Biden, the last president, the country was divided. 0.98

00:43:38.940 So we cut ties with Israel, get rid of Netanyahu and his garbage and his people around him and the people in Congress. 0.99

00:43:47.440 Those are the people that irk me the most. 0.99

00:43:51.200 And as you said, they brag about it, you know, that they flaunt it.

00:43:55.540 Yeah, we take money from them.

00:43:57.040 They're our greatest ally.

00:43:58.380 We need them.

00:43:59.160 For what?

00:43:59.620 They've never done anything for us.

00:44:01.720 We take our money and have our young soldiers killed in a war for them. 0.99

00:44:07.320 So I said, screw them. 0.99

00:44:09.440 And screw their government. 0.99

00:44:11.480 I want nothing to do with them. 1.00

00:44:12.480 This isn't a Jewish thing. 1.00

00:44:14.440 This isn't about all Jews.

00:44:16.120 This is about the Zionist state of Israel.

00:44:18.700 There's a lot of Jewish people that dislike that, what they're doing over there now, and they have disliked it for a long time. 0.96

00:44:25.100 So it's time for America to wake up.

00:44:27.960 Well, that's right. Netanyahu hides behind Judaism, and then they twist the Bible and say, follow whatever I say you're going to hell. 0.71

00:44:36.300 And the Bible doesn't even say that. It's preposterous. 0.77

00:44:39.320 It is preposterous, and it makes people look like we're a bunch of dummies, and we're not a bunch of dummies. 0.93

00:44:51.520 We're here telling the truth, and the American people eat it up, but now they see what's going on in Gaza and Lebanon, 0.95

00:45:00.600 the savagery, the killing, the sniping of young children getting water.

00:45:05.140 and I've seen some of those images

00:45:08.160 and I can't get them out of my mind, Alex,

00:45:10.280 and it's disgusting and it's inhumane.

00:45:13.760 In the same images I saw aboard the USS Liberty,

00:45:18.220 young men blown to bits.

00:45:20.700 When that torpedo exploded,

00:45:23.540 it blew those men completely to bits.

00:45:26.720 When we got into Malta,

00:45:30.700 the CTs went down, the spies,

00:45:32.660 they wouldn't let us go down there.

00:45:34.440 the ship's company because it was secret, and they had to peel the pieces of those bodies out

00:45:41.560 and put them in bags and try to figure out who they are. We got a mass grave in Arlington that

00:45:49.840 has our mates there that they couldn't identify. Is it really all them? I hope it is.

00:45:57.780 pieces of them, but at least they got memorialized in Arlington, and we go there quite often to

00:46:05.140 give thanks for their sacrifice, and that's what this is all about,

00:46:09.620 is their sacrifice and America's sacrifice. And I'm here to tell you that get us in front

00:46:17.300 of Congress and let us testify. If you think we're liars, put us in prison for the rest of our lives.

00:46:26.080 If you can prove reliant, and I'm telling that to all of Congress, especially Randy Fine and Crenshaw and the rest of the AIPAC plunkies in the Congress, help us instead of helping Israel, help us heal, help America heal.

00:46:44.680 But they won't do that. They won't give us that. Alex, why won't they give it to us? Because Netanyahu and his – back to Levi Askel, the one that cohorted with LBJ, that frickin' snake to kill us all. Is that what our lives are worth, to be sacrificial lands for the government of Israel? I don't think so.

00:47:08.060 well a lot you know israel's gotten so much power now that they're the most unpopular country in 0.82

00:47:13.860 the world the whole world's turning against them when they try to say oh are you for the radical 0.78

00:47:18.460 muslims no we're not for that we didn't create a mosque like israel or fund them or stand on 0.71

00:47:22.220 october 7th or put the head of al-qaeda along with turkey in charge of syria two years ago

00:47:27.800 no no we know israel is way more sophisticated than even the general public does but more and

00:47:33.700 the public gets it israel's moved on now from just blowing up ships to blame somebody else 0.56

00:47:38.120 now they literally fund and and and finance the islamic terror groups they don't they don't run 0.63

00:47:44.680 them but they finance them and then and then when they attack they they they use that as a pretext 0.75

00:47:49.300 to attack and blow up 30 plus thousand homes conservatively of christians in lebanon and just

00:47:55.600 six months ago israel said oh that's a conspiracy theory we're not going to take southern lebanon 0.81

00:47:58.940 now they've blown all the bridges up blown up all the churches and they say yeah we're taking it and 0.54

00:48:03.560 were never pulling out. They told Trump, no, we're not leaving. So now Israel's going to take

00:48:07.440 Christian Lebanon. I mean, this is just, now they're taking, they've burned out the last 0.98

00:48:12.040 Christian settlements in the West Bank. I saw that, and I can't believe that,

00:48:22.740 well, I can believe they did it because they don't care about human life, especially Christian lives. 0.97

00:48:29.700 And you see how they've mocked Mother Mary. 0.98

00:48:34.920 You know, it's just disgusting. 0.91

00:48:40.360 And I'm a Christian. 0.99

00:48:43.080 And I believe in my Savior, Jesus Christ, for them to mock Christians anywhere in the world and then slaughter them in the meantime. 0.98

00:48:52.420 That's our money. 1.00

00:48:53.740 That's our bombs.

00:48:54.960 That's our airplanes.

00:48:56.220 america is not a society of genocidal maniacs but look where we're at yeah and people that know

00:49:03.540 this is not even gaza which i know there was some bad guys you don't kill everybody do that

00:49:06.960 this is southern lebanon the most christian areas including famous christian churches that they had 0.64

00:49:12.380 to admit did not have hezbollah hiding in them they're just vaporizing everything cluster bombs

00:49:19.520 carpet bombing uh there's time lapse and satellite photos now that was a couple weeks ago 34 000

00:49:25.760 Christian homes estimated destroyed. Oh, my God, that's I didn't know it was that many, Alex, but

00:49:33.720 I'm not surprised. Look what they did in Gaza. I mean, as flat as a pancake. 0.88

00:49:39.980 Well, yeah, you were you were a Navy guy and a tough guy. And it was rough seeing your buddies

00:49:43.720 blown to bits and everybody getting the captain, you know, tying his leg on and guts in. But imagine

00:49:48.000 these are just kids and women and children and they don't even tell them. Sometimes they blow 0.99

00:49:51.400 up entire apartment buildings to get quote one bad guy and and and trump reportedly told net

00:49:56.400 yahoo how dare you blow up a whole building for one bad guy and and then you know admitted that

00:50:00.580 conversation happened do you think trump's doing that for to look good or do you think trump

00:50:04.040 actually now realizes he was set up by israel well i think right now with what happened yesterday

00:50:12.120 with the bombing in beirut i think i think that um he got set up and he is his handlers and

00:50:20.900 President Trump probably said, hey, that's enough.

00:50:25.760 We've got to stop. 0.53

00:50:27.340 And Netanyahu, everybody heard it.

00:50:30.360 He doesn't care what America says or what America does.

00:50:35.900 He's not going to abide by it.

00:50:37.380 He said, we don't need America.

00:50:40.360 I believe they do need America.

00:50:43.240 I agree. 0.91

00:50:43.780 But we don't need them.

00:50:45.120 Absolutely.

00:50:45.780 Go back to that last cloud.

00:50:46.880 That was a few days ago.

00:50:48.360 That multiple 2,000-pound bombs dropped on residential Christian areas, folks.

00:50:53.440 I mean, that's from miles away.

00:50:55.260 Look at the power of that.

00:50:57.100 And we're, by the way, you're paying for that.

00:50:58.840 I'm paying for that, folks.

00:51:00.440 Like, Christians don't want to pay for abortion.

00:51:01.960 I agree.

00:51:02.820 I'm a Christian.

00:51:03.460 Well, you're paying for abortion right here for men, women, and children.

00:51:07.040 If you've got to go, Phil, I totally understand.

00:51:09.380 Or would you like to ride shotgun another 20, 30 minutes to take calls?

00:51:11.920 I understand if you're busy, you've got another appointment.

00:51:13.780 no i i'd like to stay with you as long as you want me alex uh i've never had such a good time

00:51:21.520 telling about such a bad story but uh thank you so much for having me on yeah i'll stick around

00:51:27.720 thank you well it's it's medicine to stop what's happening now because you know it's what we have

00:51:32.820 to do this and like you said as long as we have some heart on for israel we're doing this israel 0.60

00:51:36.300 decided to be a villain so going on a while now they're doing it in front of everybody so thank

00:51:40.340 you so much. I'm going to give the number out specifically for the USS Liberty subject. Your

00:51:45.840 questions for the head of their Survivors Association, Phil Turney. Nobody said fastly

00:51:51.320 more than him continue to hammer this. I first heard this guy interviewed like 30 years ago,

00:51:55.580 probably got him on like 25 years ago, interviewed him a few times since then. I feel like I know

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00:52:04.680 going to open the phones up right now here on the Alex Jones Network. And the number to join us

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00:56:53.100 I forget the term when you're attracted to, like, sports cars and objects.

00:56:57.300 I've never been sexually attracted to, like, a sports car, though I thought they're cool.

00:57:02.100 I've never been sexually attracted to—I'm actually being a little sarcastic, but I'm not.

00:57:05.420 I'm actually physically attracted to this right now, okay?

00:57:08.220 This is—because I know it's going to help people. 0.74

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00:57:12.400 Actually, it's kind of not. 0.88

00:57:13.980 What's sexy is, is it's great.

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00:57:21.100 And Big Lee, knock it out of the park.

00:57:26.840 Well, we've never had this happen before.

00:57:28.360 I don't think it's a conspiracy.

00:57:29.300 It's just Murphy's Law.

00:57:30.740 Our phone system locked up.

00:57:32.840 I said, hey, are the phones clear from earlier?

00:57:34.360 They go, yeah, the phone system's down.

00:57:36.140 I thought they meant like the phone system is not on right now.

00:57:39.460 And they're like, no, it's locked up.

00:57:41.180 But I think it'll boot back up there, and they're slapping it around a little bit.

00:57:44.480 I've never even seen it do it this way.

00:57:46.620 But it's fine because our guest has so much to get to and so many clips

00:57:49.660 and so much to talk about.

00:57:53.620 But Phil Turney, head of the USS Liberty Association, this is a short segment.

00:57:57.820 Some stations join us in about six minutes.

00:57:59.820 We'll have a one-minute break.

00:58:00.800 What else do you think should be imparted to listeners about this historic event?

00:58:06.300 And just at the same time, thank God it's finally exploded.

00:58:10.760 Because, you know, it's been building for a while, but obviously it's really broken out there.

00:58:15.020 I know the question for this short segment, because I know a bunch of other people that have been involved in this have been threatened and things.

00:58:20.060 What pressure have you ever been put under or other U.S.'s liberty survivors by different angles of the Israel lobby or others to shut up?

00:58:30.940 That's a great question.

00:58:33.400 Back when my daughter, Dee, was in grade school.

00:58:40.760 We got a threat that they were going to take out my daughter.

00:58:50.360 And we rushed down to the grade school and got her out of school.

00:58:56.220 And when they want to go after your family, it hurts a lot.

00:59:04.340 Go after me, but not my family.

00:59:08.100 I was in San Diego, California with my wife.

00:59:10.760 And my son was graduating from Bud's in Coronado, California.

00:59:16.260 And we were in a restaurant at the bar having a drink, waiting to get a table.

00:59:21.560 And this guy got to sit on the right-hand side of me.

00:59:26.640 And I didn't pay any attention to him at first.

00:59:29.500 And then he says, oh, you were aboard the USS Liberty, huh?

00:59:32.040 And I said, yeah, how'd you know that?

00:59:36.260 Well, I'm here to deliver a message to you. 0.93

00:59:38.700 him i'm a massad agent and you need to shut up and shut up now or bad bad things are going to 0.96

00:59:47.620 happen to you he had a big watch alex and he put it in my face like this i thought he was gonna 0.97

00:59:56.740 you know squirt me with something or camera me out or what i don't know what he was doing

01:00:03.260 So I pushed it away, and it got more heated.

01:00:08.260 My wife heard it. 0.96

01:00:10.040 She heard the whole thing.

01:00:12.420 And, boy, she went crazy after him.

01:00:15.500 She just almost dived over me to get to him, and he got pretty boiled, cussed out, I'll tell you that.

01:00:22.780 And security came and gave us a walk up to our room and told us to stay in our room until in the morning.

01:00:33.640 We did.

01:00:34.540 We went back down, and I asked the manager, who was that dude?

01:00:38.980 And they said, well, he'd been here a couple times, saying he was a doctor.

01:00:43.380 So how did he know I was there, Alex?

01:00:46.580 He just scoped me out.

01:00:47.820 They must have found out by my credit card or something else that I was there.

01:00:52.780 It gave me a very harsh warning to shut up.

01:00:56.760 Well, I didn't shut up.

01:00:59.240 I'm never going to shut up.

01:01:01.420 This is too important for America. 1.00

01:01:04.460 What this foreign government did to our country is so savage. 0.93

01:01:10.400 Back then, even in 67, it's so worse now. 0.99

01:01:14.540 So, yeah, I've been threatened.

01:01:16.940 Phone calls, everything you can believe.

01:01:19.600 I've had my computers hacked, burned up.

01:01:22.480 I mean, I had to buy new computers that were so badly trashed, but I keep on because it's my duty as an American. 1.00

01:01:30.100 You don't leave your brothers behind dead, slaughtered by a foreign government, and then your old government tells you to shut up about it like it never happened. 0.98

01:01:38.560 Well, I'll tell you, I mean, this phone box, we never had a phone box do this. 1.00

01:01:42.560 It just locked up all its lights on.

01:01:44.340 It's fried as soon as you came on the show, but I'm sure it's just an accident.

01:01:48.880 We'll be right back in 60 seconds to talk more about this.

01:01:51.100 Stay with us.

01:01:52.480 Wow, Phil Turney is our guest.

01:01:57.820 He heads up the USS Liberty Survivors Association.

01:02:00.560 He's been the most continued, dogged, consistent person exposing it.

01:02:05.040 Now, it's all over the news, coming out in Congress, thanks to Congressman Massey. 0.97

01:02:08.780 Israel drag us into these wars.

01:02:10.180 Israel primarying pro-America, America first leaders. 0.57

01:02:15.040 Netanyahu openly defying Trump, saying we're going to keep you in the war.

01:02:17.880 We're going to keep bombing Lebanon.

01:02:19.040 We're going to keep bombing Iran. 1.00

01:02:20.020 And they're just blowing up the entire South Lebanon, the bridges. 0.98

01:02:24.940 They've now confirmed they've got huge spray planes spraying concentrated glyphosate all over the crops,

01:02:31.600 all over Southern Lebanon so that the plants won't grow.

01:02:35.380 Remember what the Romans did to Carthus because they got mad that they fought them.

01:02:37.960 They salted the earth.

01:02:39.300 I mean, this is wild.

01:02:40.840 But some stations don't carry that first five.

01:02:43.220 So I'm not going to ask him to retell it, but that's big news.

01:02:46.280 Talk about never talking about himself.

01:02:48.300 I've been interviewing this guy off and on for 30 years probably,

01:02:50.640 at least close to that.

01:02:53.500 And I never, I should have asked,

01:02:55.700 because I know they threatened a bunch of other people and stuff.

01:02:57.680 I'm like, oh, by the way, did you ever get threatened?

01:02:59.400 Yeah, they threatened to go after my daughter when she was in grade school,

01:03:01.840 but I didn't shut up.

01:03:02.440 And yeah, when I was down there with my son with the Navy SEALs

01:03:05.780 or BUDS training and they came into the restaurant bar

01:03:09.260 and threatened me and my wife, my wife jumped on the guy.

01:03:11.900 I mean, it's like, wow.

01:03:13.560 I mean, just to tell you the level of this stuff,

01:03:17.860 and and how crazy it gets uh you know i should have asked you the question this way

01:03:23.680 like i said the captain kind of stayed quiet until right before he died but pretty much

01:03:29.520 everybody else despite all the serious threats of being in prison for life or killed you started

01:03:33.540 speaking up but i know you were one of the early ones what was the process how long after did you

01:03:38.800 start to decide to speak out and then what was the history of the uss liberty association and

01:03:43.860 what you guys had to go through, you know, back then when nobody would have you on talk radio,

01:03:48.180 basically, and, you know, most, oh, you don't question Israel, that's impossible. You know,

01:03:53.000 they're more Christ-like than Jesus himself. You go to hell if you even say that anybody in Israel 0.96

01:03:58.440 ever did anything wrong. They're above the law. What was the process for you to decide to stand 0.89

01:04:04.360 up and speak out and to go from super humble beginnings, like myself and many others did,

01:04:10.100 access TV or whatever, to now one of the biggest stories in the world, month after month after

01:04:15.800 month, you're just building and building and building. I mean, we're not hyping it. That's

01:04:19.820 a fact. So all the detractors, all the threats, all the devices of the devil have now been turned

01:04:24.860 against him if we persevere. I think that's the story of Christians and story of God's people

01:04:28.940 over and over again is we're in the long haul here. So what was your awakening like? What was

01:04:32.840 the process like? Like you said, you're being attacked. You're pro-Israel at the time until

01:04:36.960 you later learn here come the torpedo boats you're like hi and they're firing torpedoes and

01:04:41.020 heavy heavy machine guns and rockets at you and you're like oh so then from then on out what was

01:04:47.100 the process of awakening and then your quest to get the truth out that's now really bearing fruit

01:04:52.380 yeah absolutely uh my awakening was uh i was a kind of a well i'll put it this way i was a pretty

01:05:04.720 broken man after the Liberty

01:05:06.740 attack.

01:05:08.640 I could

01:05:10.920 never get it out of my mind. It was always part

01:05:12.940 of me, which is in my book.

01:05:17.040 About 18 years

01:05:18.620 after the attack,

01:05:21.380 the USS Liberty Veterans

01:05:22.700 Association was formed.

01:05:24.720 I've read a letter

01:05:26.420 written by Stan White,

01:05:29.600 Master Chief Spy.

01:05:31.200 He was a CT

01:05:32.020 in the Rocky Mountain News.

01:05:35.080 It was a short article, but I read it.

01:05:38.380 And I thought, oh, my God, if he can start, if he's talking,

01:05:43.160 I'm going to start talking.

01:05:44.960 And I had remarried at that time.

01:05:46.680 I had been married to my wife about a year.

01:05:48.220 I never told her I was even in the military.

01:05:51.820 And I come home with this and told her.

01:05:55.280 And she's backed me ever since that day.

01:06:00.440 She believed me and stood behind me the whole time.

01:06:05.220 And thanks to Stan White, 42 years ago when I read that and became a member, a founding member of the LVA, Liberty Veterans Association, my life completely changed because it took a weight off my back, Alex.

01:06:26.840 i can't tell you what it did to me it gave me wings and uh it tells the truth not to forget the

01:06:36.040 34 in fact i got a tattoo right here i don't know if you can see it of the 34 men yes sir slaughtered

01:06:44.280 that day because they've been in my heart all my life i've never forgot them so i decided well i'm

01:06:53.160 I'm going to put them on the outside of my arm so everybody would know. 0.51

01:06:56.800 And on the other side, it says, USS Liberty, slaughtered by Israel, June 8, 1967. 0.92

01:07:05.360 There's no other way to put it because it was a slaughter. 0.82

01:07:07.680 It was a massacre.

01:07:09.820 And I've never shut up since, and I'm not going to.

01:07:12.400 I mean, how can you not – you can't let your shipmates down,

01:07:17.060 especially the ones that were slaughtered, and then let your other shipmates down.

01:07:23.160 by not saying anything and let america down well to me that's the big one to me that's the big one 0.93

01:07:30.880 they're all huge israel's gonna keep doing false flags we don't expose this 0.90

01:07:34.580 no that false flags false flags false flags you brought up 9-11 uh go back to the 0.89

01:07:42.800 jfk i mean uh how far back does it go but i still believe the uss liberty is the spearhead of

01:07:50.160 breaking the back of the Zion estate because we're here alive to tell the

01:07:53.340 truth.

01:07:53.960 If Congress would get up off the rear ends and give us a shot that we've

01:07:58.860 never had, but Massey, God bless him, Thomas Massey,

01:08:02.620 I hope he runs for president and wins.

01:08:05.180 I agree.

01:08:06.040 So, so expanding on that,

01:08:07.940 just retelling it or expanding on other parts you get to sounds like your,

01:08:11.360 your, your, your wife,

01:08:12.760 your second wife's quite the whippersnapper or, you know, quite the, 1.00

01:08:15.400 quite, quite the lightning bolt in a good way. 0.97

01:08:17.680 So you're at this restaurant.

01:08:21.440 You know, there were your sons, I guess,

01:08:22.700 do a Navy SEAL training or whatever.

01:08:23.840 I mean, recap it.

01:08:25.120 This guy walks up and says, I'm with Mossad. 1.00

01:08:26.660 You better watch your ass. 1.00

01:08:27.660 Obviously knew you were there. 1.00

01:08:29.100 Like you said, you weren't there often.

01:08:30.560 So tracking your credit card, something like that.

01:08:32.660 And then he threatens you.

01:08:33.800 And then your wife attacks him. 0.97

01:08:35.640 I mean, I love that.

01:08:36.600 That's what I would do.

01:08:37.680 And I guess you shoved him off of you.

01:08:38.840 I mean, describe this little event that happened.

01:08:43.700 I love it.

01:08:44.120 well he kept on talking and talking and telling me what i should and shouldn't do

01:08:52.080 and this is a story go back to it i bet it's burning your brain start over so he comes over

01:08:57.700 he says oh you're on the liberty and you're like how do you know that and then continue

01:09:01.000 yeah and i asked him and he started telling me uh that i'm doing the wrong thing i shouldn't be

01:09:09.540 doing it. And he said, I am Assad. And I actually said, well, how do I know that? He said, believe

01:09:16.740 me, I am. That's when the watch come up. That's when the cussing started. And I thought we were

01:09:23.280 going to go to blows. But my wife took over for me. And she's quite a gal. She went after him 0.99

01:09:33.520 like a snake 1.00

01:09:35.280 and she wanted to tear his head off 0.99

01:09:38.560 but it was 0.98

01:09:40.540 quite a scene

01:09:41.800 I never expected

01:09:43.560 but it did

01:09:45.960 I must say

01:09:47.360 it frightened my wife

01:09:49.320 it frightened me too

01:09:52.520 but not to the point

01:09:54.120 she really knew you were telling the truth

01:09:56.160 when that happened

01:09:56.700 I'm sorry I didn't hear that

01:10:00.540 I bet she really knew you were telling the truth

01:10:02.600 when she saw that happen oh absolutely absolutely absolutely she did you know uh behind every good

01:10:11.380 man is a good woman or are they in front of you but i'll tell you what uh thank god for putting

01:10:17.740 women on this earth to one of the greatest gifts you ever have is a is a loving trusting faithful

01:10:24.680 wife and uh i've got one i had one for the last 43 years i'm very in fact our anniversary is coming

01:10:31.320 up Friday. And we're going to spend time in Dallas with my son and his wife and my grandkids

01:10:40.900 to celebrate our 43rd anniversary. Well, congratulations. So

01:10:46.080 I've noticed with my family being threatened, I've had the globalist deep state threat in my

01:10:52.420 family too. It only made our family stronger. I mean, people don't like being threatened and

01:10:56.420 And it's scary, but I don't know why they think messing with good people is going to work.

01:11:02.260 And in my experience, people were only asleep because they never really seen it up front.

01:11:06.720 When most people, I think, now get confronted with the evil, they might get scared at first, but then they start thinking, I don't want to live my life bowing down.

01:11:14.420 I'm going to fight back.

01:11:15.400 So I just tell all these different lobbies and mafia groups, just keep pushing because it's not working.

01:11:22.240 No, it's not working.

01:11:23.460 In fact, it made me stronger with my dedication to get the truth out.

01:11:31.960 And, you know, like I say, I'm just an E-4 petty officer.

01:11:37.240 But in my heart, I just always believed I was better than that.

01:11:45.340 I was more than something that just a small of a human being.

01:11:50.940 I could do something in this world in my life.

01:11:53.460 And it's coming true now, Alex, after all these years.

01:11:56.360 And, of course, I've been on some really, really good podcasts,

01:12:01.100 Candace Owens, Jake Shields, and Colin Schoyer.

01:12:04.780 I know he's worked for you, and so many more.

01:12:09.160 But people that really love our country, Alex, as you do, have people like me on.

01:12:15.420 And God bless you, man.

01:12:16.700 I mean that sincerely from my heart.

01:12:19.700 You're an incredible human being, and it makes me proud to be with you.

01:12:22.880 Well, I appreciate you, buddy.

01:12:24.020 We're just fighting evil.

01:12:24.860 We're all in this together.

01:12:25.780 I want to play a short clip for you.

01:12:27.140 This is Kyle Serafin, who is a super respected FBI whistleblower.

01:12:31.320 So much what we know with Biden and with Trump is because of this guy and his sources.

01:12:35.480 And he was never, you know, an anti-Israel guy either.

01:12:38.160 But he totally agreed with me yesterday. 0.98

01:12:39.900 He said, now Israel's the big elephant in the room, the gorilla on our back. 0.71

01:12:43.100 And he's talked to high-level folks in current intelligence that say it is bad. 0.67

01:12:48.660 and that they've got a whole other category of just intelligence for Israel

01:12:52.560 that more and more is just being used.

01:12:55.160 And then like we talked about earlier, they've got this National Defense Authorization Act

01:12:58.440 that says coordinate, merge, synchronize, you know, all of it real time.

01:13:05.160 I mean, this is Israel, and, quote, Netanyahu's plan, he admits he wrote the subsection 224.

01:13:10.740 Here was Kyle Serafin's response. It was a few minutes long last night.

01:13:14.480 I don't care about Israel at all. It's a non-factor. 0.51

01:13:17.960 However, if Israel continues to shove it in my face that they're able to buy elections, that they're able to throw enough money at somebody that they can overturn a House primary and make it the most expensive primary in history.

01:13:29.320 If they're going to go out there and openly lobby for things, and I very recently had a conversation with a member of the intelligence community, somebody who's about ready to retire, and the statement that I got was so unsettling. 0.54

01:13:39.840 I didn't ever see a dissemination control.

01:13:43.240 When you have classified documents, they basically give you the level of classification, and then they have what's called dissemination controls.

01:13:49.680 And so it might be unclassified, but you can only disseminate to law enforcement or official use.

01:13:54.300 It may be secret and no foreign, which means no foreign government gets it, or it's secret, and you can do what's called – it says rel to, release to.

01:14:01.680 And you can release it to certain groups, whether it be the Five Eyes or different countries.

01:14:05.160 and there's a category underneath at least our secret um classification that allows for release

01:14:11.560 to the united states and israel only and it's specific information that only goes to those

01:14:15.520 partners it doesn't go to the brits it doesn't go to the the kiwis it doesn't go to the aussies

01:14:19.480 it doesn't go to the uh you know the canadians it's only to israel and i'd never seen that when

01:14:24.480 i was working the fbi i didn't even know it was a real thing and i brought it up with an

01:14:27.380 intel community member said is this real like i read about it i see it's in the guidebook that

01:14:31.840 for you know lists out the classifications do we use this and the statement came back to me

01:14:37.740 yes and far more frequently than i'm comfortable with and so we do crazy amounts of information

01:14:44.620 sharing but at the same time you listen to people that have come out of the cia that have come out

01:14:48.420 of you know nsa that have come out of these dia and they say the israelis come in and they're

01:14:53.760 always spying on us they're always trying to spy on us i've got buddies that were in law enforcement

01:14:58.780 like federal law enforcement that were doing overseas work they were going to you know other

01:15:02.900 countries and sometimes they do a landing so you know in tel aviv or in jerusalem and they said when 0.99

01:15:07.080 they were switching planes there they would have beautiful women come up and do what's called a

01:15:10.560 bump on a regular basis they would try to bump and recruit our guys that are you know they're

01:15:14.780 all cleared personnel but it doesn't mean they're working on sensitive stuff because the israelis

01:15:18.400 are constantly working against us honeypot stingrays breaking into things kiriyaku talks about

01:15:24.140 call them a frenemy they're a frenemy at best and so when i keep hearing politicians come out and

01:15:28.880 say they're our greatest ally they're our greatest ally and obviously someone is writing this pr

01:15:33.180 garbage and then the second thing that you see them always doing is conflating the the presence 0.66

01:15:38.120 of american jewish people and then if you were to say something about uh you know about israel 0.98

01:15:43.900 then you're somehow anti-semitic because they've basically conflated the religious nature or the

01:15:48.700 race of the people and the people that live in a foreign country to me that's bizarre i grew up over

01:15:53.340 and overhearing, Alex, you probably did too.

01:15:55.380 Israel's an amazing place. It's the only liberal democracy

01:15:57.500 in the Middle East. It's the only place where Christians 1.00

01:15:59.220 and Muslims and Jewish people can all 1.00

01:16:01.320 live together, and they're all represented in the government, and blah, blah, 0.70

01:16:03.460 blah, blah, blah. And you find out

01:16:04.880 the way that they turn around and sell it to us 1.00

01:16:07.300 today, that's all bullshit. 1.00

01:16:09.280 Meanwhile, they're vaporizing 1.00

01:16:10.980 Christian Lebanon and taking it right now. 1.00

01:16:13.760 That's right, and knocking down settlements 1.00

01:16:15.220 that are in the West Bank that are Christian,

01:16:16.960 the only remaining Christian settlement.

01:16:19.280 It was a front and center piece of the news

01:16:20.720 from a group I used to work with, and you're sitting

01:16:23.120 there going how do we how do we ignore these two things because they're in conflict with each other

01:16:27.400 they cannot be our greatest ally and then also be trying to drag us into a conflict and you know

01:16:32.320 is there definitely arrogant they're definitely making their move and it's very unpopular and

01:16:38.740 it's treasonous and now it's front and center and it's 80 percent of american people don't like this 0.65

01:16:44.500 so i think israel's bit off more than they can chew we're almost out of time but in the 60 0.77

01:16:48.740 seconds how do you see this unfolding i think you're exactly right i think they've bitten off 0.79

01:16:53.560 more than they can chew and i had this conversation with mark how who recently got a settlement from

01:16:57.480 doj he's one of the guys that was um targeted by the last doj and he said something to me that

01:17:01.980 stuck with me he says the devil's always loudest when he's losing and i thought that was a really

01:17:06.240 poignant thing and that actually turns out to be the case for a lot of different people

01:17:09.100 when you're behind the eight ball when you're losing you tend to be complaining and whining

01:17:14.500 and louder and you tend to be you know try to puff yourself up to be bigger than you are

01:17:18.160 When people are winning and they're getting away with something, they're very happy for you not to know it.

01:17:23.120 I mean, that's been my experience with people.

01:17:24.580 If you're doing some shenanigans behind the scene, you don't want to call any attention to that.

01:17:28.180 But when you start losing and the status quo is failing on you, you might actually need to be louder than you were before.

01:17:34.480 I think this rattle is almost like, you know, it has the potential of being a death rattle.

01:17:38.100 Now, maybe they turn it.

01:17:39.140 Maybe they get what they want.

01:17:40.280 But I think they've turned the Gen Alphas. 0.86

01:17:42.760 I think they've turned the Gen Zs.

01:17:44.120 I think they've turned a lot of people in my generation.

01:17:45.820 I'm like the oldest millennial out there.

01:17:47.240 I was born in 81.

01:17:48.160 so like i think the people in my age bracket and even people older than me are looking and just 0.94

01:17:52.380 going look we don't care that israel exists we're not mad that they're there what we don't want to 0.95

01:17:57.880 do is fund them and we certainly don't want them dragging us into conflicts and wars that cost us 1.00

01:18:02.600 you know blood and treasure we don't want israel to run us it's not our country they're openly

01:18:06.900 saying they run us and it's wrong kyle serrafin kyle serrafin show.com on x kyle serrafin great

01:18:13.280 job thank you so much my friend good seeing you alex that was the end of the show last night all

01:18:18.860 right we got the phone system up so we're gonna go to break come back with 30 minutes with calls

01:18:21.700 with our guest phil tourney um head of the uss liberty survivors association stay afloat from

01:18:29.460 that day to today and that's what this is all about the long haul now here's the number for

01:18:33.560 you to call in sorry earlier you couldn't the phone system just locked up never happened before

01:18:37.020 in decades um well this is a newer phone system so we have this a couple years has it locked up

01:18:41.640 So 512-266-0642, 512-266-0642.

01:18:48.040 And if you're saying Israel and disagree or agree with us, dial your country code, our country code, 512-266-0642.

01:18:55.860 The system's up.

01:18:56.880 We've got about five minutes to break, sir, listening to Kyle Serafin talk about what he's hearing from his intelligence sources about what Israel's up to.

01:19:04.260 What is your view on that?

01:19:08.140 Boy, did he hit the nail on the head.

01:19:10.140 But my view is that how they've infiltrated us, and he said it very well.

01:19:18.980 And you know another thing, Alex, maybe I shouldn't bring this up right now, 0.89

01:19:23.680 but what are they going to do with integrating the Israeli forces into the United States,

01:19:34.500 our military, our intelligence, and everything else?

01:19:37.280 I know Roe Conner's trying to block it right now, and Tom Massey, and maybe one another.

01:19:43.700 But have you ever heard of such a thing in your lifetime?

01:19:47.200 Would you ever believe that the United States military would be integrated into the United States military? 0.94

01:19:58.040 We would be under Israeli control. 0.99

01:20:01.680 Whatever they did, we'd be blamed for, which we should be blamed for right now because we're funding them. 0.99

01:20:07.280 We're funding America.

01:20:09.200 It's always the right time to bring this up.

01:20:11.100 We've got about five minutes to break.

01:20:12.220 Let's talk about it.

01:20:13.900 Netanyahu wrote letters thanking the committee, passing it on a committee saying,

01:20:17.040 thank you for implementing my plan.

01:20:18.840 They've had top lawyers look at it.

01:20:20.220 I've looked at it.

01:20:20.980 It's very clear.

01:20:21.800 It's only five, six pages.

01:20:23.040 It says integrate, fuse, lifetime fusion from DARPA to the NSA to the CIA to the armed services

01:20:30.420 to lifetime telemetry to weapons guidance to joint weapons production.

01:20:35.480 And the Netanyahu says, we don't need your money now.

01:20:37.660 They're going to be co-owner of our weapons by claiming they're involved with all of our weapons systems.

01:20:42.200 This is insane.

01:20:45.420 The death kneel. 1.00

01:20:46.940 If we do that, we give up our country to a foreign country. 0.99

01:20:50.980 We've never done that in 250 years with anybody.

01:20:55.800 George Washington warned of it. 1.00

01:20:58.120 You know, foreign entanglement. 1.00

01:20:59.520 You know, our country is first, nobody else. 0.99

01:21:01.860 I mean, normal people that are living today are paying the price of what Israel's done since 1948. 0.98

01:21:13.880 America has funded it, and we're paying for it right now in lives, money, pressure, 0.97

01:21:21.680 and now giving up our military to a foreign government. 0.94

01:21:25.500 I can't imagine it, but I see it in real time, and it breaks my heart.

01:21:31.340 Is this going to stop?

01:21:32.640 How are they going to stop it?

01:21:34.520 Well, the APAC congressman.

01:21:36.660 I'm ashamed I didn't think of what you just said.

01:21:39.400 In his farewell address and in letters, he said, beware of foreign entanglements. 1.00

01:21:44.900 He said, that's the number one threat to bringing down our new republic. 1.00

01:21:47.680 And you read the five, six pages of the subsection.

01:21:51.360 And by the way, it's in the intelligence bill, too, that Tom Cotton is supporting.

01:21:55.000 It's the same language.

01:21:55.580 It literally says fuse, integrate, live time, other, and it's the definition of, guys, look at the definition of entangle versus synchronize, fuse, integrate.

01:22:12.280 Entangle just means part of it's tied up.

01:22:15.160 Integrate, fuse, live time, that means, they say synchronize, that means simpatico.

01:22:22.460 I mean, that means we are married to this, and that's a bunch of Jonathan Pollard's, it says the special agent, only reports the Secretary of Defense and the President, and literally no other, not the Joint Chiefs, not the head of the Army, Navy, cannot question any order they give them.

01:22:40.860 They are to give them everything.

01:22:42.260 It says it clearly in the subsection.

01:22:44.280 I mean, the boldness of it.

01:22:46.280 And then Netanyahu brags he wrote it.

01:22:48.020 You see that letter he wrote to the committee, thanking him for his plan being implemented?

01:22:52.460 Yes, I did. And it's insulting. It's insulting to even entertain it. And for Cotton to bring that up, I mean, he should be hung. He's a traitor. Everybody that puts the Israeli flag ahead of the red, white, and blue, we love this country.

01:23:13.540 We've fought for it

01:23:16.500 We've died for it 0.88

01:23:17.560 But nobody should die for the Zionist state 0.97

01:23:20.160 And I can't believe Cotton 1.00

01:23:22.200 And the rest of them

01:23:23.140 Even thinking about this

01:23:24.940 I mean it just

01:23:26.740 It makes me feel

01:23:27.960 Un-American

01:23:30.940 Makes me feel sad 0.97

01:23:32.360 Makes me feel terrible

01:23:35.060 George Washington said it

01:23:39.700 Beware foreign entanglements 1.00

01:23:41.800 and here we are how are we going to get out of it i mean we are married to them we got to cut 1.00

01:23:50.300 this marriage off right now i mean a divorce we got to divorce these people immediately for it 0.98

01:23:55.120 before they take us over and kill us all we'll all be their slaves that's what they want yeah 0.99

01:24:00.380 people have been using the marriage analogy i totally agree people have been using the marriage 1.00

01:24:03.880 analogy it's more like israel's the pimp we're the crack whore he lets people put cigarettes out on 0.99

01:24:08.160 that's very well put yeah very well put i'll have to agree with you 100 my goodness yeah that was 0.99

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01:26:50.500 So let's go ahead and take some phone calls for Phil Turney.

01:26:56.560 Phil, before we go to these calls, anything else you'd like to add?

01:27:01.260 No, I just want, well, yeah, I do want to add something.

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01:27:22.360 but I really appreciate you helping me out on that, Alex.

01:27:25.580 And yeah, I'm glad to take any calls.

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01:27:35.800 Very historic,

01:27:36.760 and it couldn't be coming out at a big level

01:27:38.920 at a better time.

01:27:40.280 Because I'm telling you, I've studied Israel.

01:27:41.760 I've studied different Western governments 1.00

01:27:43.040 that pull this type of crap. 0.99

01:27:44.780 and what they do is they do false flags when things aren't going their way. 0.99

01:27:50.200 Are you at just a political and also just gut level for me

01:27:53.540 looking at what other moves does Israel have? 0.50

01:27:56.100 Primarying people that are patriots, running MTG out,

01:28:00.860 targeting Thomas Massey with $30-plus million, now $40 million,

01:28:04.880 saying they're going to target everybody else.

01:28:07.500 I mean, I'm really concerned about what else the Israel lobby might pull.

01:28:10.920 I'm really concerned about false flags.

01:28:14.780 Very good question and very good thought, because I am too.

01:28:18.880 I am too.

01:28:19.580 A false flag is part of their modus.

01:28:24.160 Well, like what is the model of Mossad?

01:28:28.880 By deception we shall deceive.

01:28:32.300 And everything we do is by deception.

01:28:35.940 And it's never in the interest of the United States. 0.95

01:28:40.560 It's always in the interest of Israel. 0.62

01:28:42.980 and their Talmud and what they believe. 0.88

01:28:47.960 And that isn't the American values we're paying for right now to support Israel. 0.89

01:28:52.780 And that's the saddest part of it all for me, Alex. 0.86

01:28:56.400 It just breaks my heart.

01:28:58.800 And if you politically look at what Israel's doing, it's going to be good for them long term. 1.00

01:29:01.900 But it's all, like you said, messianic, end of the world, crazy town stuff. 1.00

01:29:06.580 Let's go in the order of the calls are received.

01:29:08.560 Jason in Michigan, then Brian, Leo, Daniel, Joe, and others.

01:29:12.280 So, Jason, in Michigan, you say your uncle rebuilt the USS Liberty Memorial.

01:29:15.960 Tell us about that.

01:29:17.440 Hey, Alex, how's it going?

01:29:18.960 Yeah, so originally I moved back to Michigan, just a little tiny town.

01:29:24.540 I grew up in Manistee, Michigan, and he was actually in the Navy,

01:29:29.780 but somehow he got this whole ceremony.

01:29:32.420 We put up a big cannon.

01:29:34.360 It's right on the riverbanks of the channel.

01:29:36.140 We're looking at our little downtown.

01:29:38.380 And, yeah, we had Doc, a Congressional Medal of Honor recipient that was on the boat,

01:29:43.060 and then a bunch of other guys, and I got to sit and talk with them.

01:29:46.440 And, I mean, you'd hear their stories, and they'd have tears coming from their eyes

01:29:50.420 just because for years, like decades, they tried to, like, talk to Congress,

01:29:55.180 and they all just shut the doors on them, and it's, yeah, it's pretty sad.

01:30:00.140 Wow, so your uncle, Phil might even know your uncle.

01:30:07.620 uh ted is his name ted aarons

01:30:12.500 ted aarons absolutely i know ted yeah that's a very very good man yeah and i think uh you were

01:30:23.360 actually there as well because it's right there we have a little veteran like hold the whole bank

01:30:28.340 all along the the channel going up to lake michigan um there's a bunch of memorials but we

01:30:34.340 kind of took over and built like a bunch of them for the USS Liberty and we did a whole ceremony

01:30:39.440 there and yeah I got to have lunch with Doc he was yeah really great guy but um yeah it's just

01:30:46.580 the truth has got to come out one way or another but on a side note sorry to change digress but

01:30:53.800 it was like 2007 my dad had a heart attack and I was emergency flight and somehow they from

01:31:01.600 california they hit me in texas and i'm sitting there waiting and i seen some guy getting on 0.98

01:31:07.580 behind me and i turned around i just kind of laughed and i was like oh the big lebowski i

01:31:12.640 was like the dude and he kind of chuckled me he's like well my name is rob do and they called me the

01:31:17.920 do but and i sat there and talked uh for three hours you know i had a head injury and stuff and 0.71

01:31:25.580 yeah rob do rob do looks just like uh jeff bridges the big lebowski all right brother i

01:31:31.120 appreciate your call thank you uh let's go to uh leo in california on the air go ahead

01:31:36.340 yes uh good afternoon alex uh uh thank you for having me thank you go ahead yeah um

01:31:45.760 you know uh pardon my ignorance but i didn't know too much about the um the you know uh accident

01:31:53.900 accidental attack on that battleship, and now that I've been listening to this session,

01:32:07.140 are you folks, is there thoughts that it might have not been an accident and it may be a false flag?

01:32:15.160 It's just, no, it wasn't an armed ship, it wasn't a battleship, it was a reconnaissance ship.

01:32:20.740 Reconnaissance, okay.

01:32:21.420 The reconnaissance ship, and it's 100% staged.

01:32:27.060 It's come out from all the eyewitnesses.

01:32:29.300 The people on the boat were key witnesses,

01:32:31.080 but the people at the highest level in Admiral Moore's commission

01:32:34.520 who were able to see all the stuff that got covered up.

01:32:38.480 I mean, we know this was a staged event.

01:32:42.160 But do you have any questions for our guests, Leo?

01:32:46.240 Well, I just want to say I admire, you know, you,

01:32:49.960 and uh thank you for your service sir um it's a tragic thing that happened and i'm just kind of

01:32:56.920 blown away as to how we've gotten in this position uh with israel um and but it didn't happen

01:33:06.540 overnight um i'm 37 years old and i remember in elementary school they condition us to

01:33:12.760 to have allegiance with Israel.

01:33:16.380 Like they tell us, oh, Israel's our best friend.

01:33:19.040 Israel's our greatest ally.

01:33:21.040 And then if you're religious or have some kind of form of Christianity,

01:33:24.720 even more so because that's where, you know, Jesus grew up in that area.

01:33:33.100 So there's a sense of allegiance towards them,

01:33:37.360 but they've conditioned us since we were children to think that way. 0.87

01:33:41.440 And even though all of these things seem overnight, like this epiphany of, oh, my gosh, how does Israel have us in a chokehold? It's happened for many years, and it's not going to happen overnight where we can, you know, get out of their grasp. 0.76

01:34:00.880 and unfortunately like through voting i've lost faith in voting i mean here in california we

01:34:08.520 voted for bianchi and he didn't make the cut and it's it's i feel like the only way we can

01:34:15.720 make a difference is in our households with our loved ones our children you know and our spouses

01:34:19.720 and hopefully our friends well exactly we definitely can make the individual choices

01:34:23.000 morally ourselves in our lives and because there is fraud in elections you don't not be involved

01:34:27.460 to get more involved, to expose it, that's the process.

01:34:30.080 Thanks for the call.

01:34:30.620 I'm going to get our guest's take on that.

01:34:33.420 What's your view on what the listener just said?

01:34:36.940 Well, you know, he made a good point, Alex.

01:34:41.560 You know, he was brought up that way.

01:34:44.400 And there was a reason for that.

01:34:46.400 They're conditioned.

01:34:47.940 All of us were conditioned. 0.88

01:34:49.260 I was conditioned as a child going to school, you know, about Israel.

01:34:57.460 and the Holocaust and how badly they were treated and everything else.

01:35:05.260 And their conditions that way, we were, all of us were.

01:35:08.760 But now that conditioning is wearing very thin.

01:35:13.940 You weren't supposed to learn about the USS Liberty in any school, not even now.

01:35:21.060 But it should be required reading about the USS Liberty and why and what for it happened in all schools,

01:35:31.380 even in grade school, high school, and college.

01:35:37.140 It should be taught a college course about the USS Liberty and the implications they could have aroused from that in a nuclear war.

01:35:48.120 It's very important for America to understand.

01:35:51.000 It's very important for the world to understand how close we came to a nuclear, terrible war that would change the whole world that we live in right now.

01:36:03.880 So that's just the way it is.

01:36:05.720 And Phil, elaborate on that, people that weren't there in 67 like you were in the Mediterranean off the coast of Israel.

01:36:11.220 What war was going on, what the plan was, how it could have caused nuclear war and how we had nuclear bombers in the air?

01:36:17.160 Yeah, well, it was a six-day war. We got there, I think, on the fourth day of the war. And the implications of nuclear tip bombs, airplanes in the air to sacrifice millions for the greater good of Israel.

01:36:41.400 You have to remember, this is all pre-planned, the Greater Israel Project, which is going on right now. 0.58

01:36:50.960 And everybody sees it, but what are we going to do about it? 0.97

01:36:55.600 We're going to stand tall as Americans against a foreign government that wants to infiltrate us. 0.96

01:37:01.740 We're going to unelect the Zionist lobby, the AIPAC whores in Congress, 0.95

01:37:07.080 that would rather get a paycheck from APAC or get reelected for power, money, greed, 0.98

01:37:13.100 or whatever they want, get people in there to care about America like Thomas Massey, 0.95

01:37:19.360 Marjorie Taylor Greene, and one or two more.

01:37:22.820 I totally agree.

01:37:23.480 And for those that don't know, I'm sure you saw this, but if you didn't, we can play the

01:37:27.220 club.

01:37:27.880 Jonathan Pollard, the famous spy that Trump pardoned the last admin, he goes out and does

01:37:32.100 interviews and podcasts and he talks about in 73 they held Nixon hostage and Kissinger wasn't

01:37:38.560 going to keep giving them weapons after they'd already basically won they wanted to expand it

01:37:43.220 and so they said no so they said look at that fighter bomber out there with your satellite 0.74

01:37:49.500 it's got hydrogen bombs on it and then they they held them nuclear hostage with the Samson option

01:37:56.340 and I don't just believe Pollard that's come out in some reports in Congress as well but I mean just

01:38:01.340 Just look at the arrogance there. 0.77

01:38:03.420 And I'm really concerned about being held nuclear hostage now with the modern Samson option.

01:38:08.920 Phil Turney, what do you think of that? 0.72

01:38:12.780 I think the modern Samson option is closer than we ever realized. 0.98

01:38:20.160 They're holding hostage America. 0.96

01:38:22.800 What did they have, 200 nukes?

01:38:24.760 Probably more.

01:38:25.400 They wanted to destroy the world?

01:38:26.580 Is that what they wanted? 0.99

01:38:27.300 And that scoundrel right there, that piece of crap, you know, turns some of the most sensitive secrets over to Israel, betrayed our great country, and he gets a free pass, sent back to Israel. 0.99

01:38:46.180 And Netanyahu greets him at the airport, and he's a hero for being a spy against the greatest country in the world. 0.99

01:38:55.400 that used to be the greatest country in the world 0.67

01:38:58.080 until they got involved in Israel.

01:39:00.900 Well, I've interviewed a lot of high-level intelligence folks,

01:39:02.860 and I've seen even the press reports.

01:39:05.740 The stuff that Pollard got got a lot of our people killed.

01:39:11.440 I mean, Pollard gave away our spy networks, our secrets, everything.

01:39:18.100 Yeah, they got it all.

01:39:20.260 They got it all, and he got a pass.

01:39:24.400 And everybody's fine with it. 0.93

01:39:25.880 I mean, that's the power of the Zionist lobby in our country. 1.00

01:39:33.600 And it's become a cancer. 1.00

01:39:40.380 It's a cancer we better get rid of or it's going to overcome us.

01:39:44.060 We're going to die from it sooner or later.

01:39:47.080 And I hate to be so, I guess you'd call, down, written about it, but it's the truth.

01:39:58.900 Well, you're being a realist.

01:40:00.220 I mean, I agree with you. 0.99

01:40:01.200 Any foreign, particularly Israel, really trying to, had a lot of power before, but it's definitely trying to be the big swinging you-know-what in the room. 1.00

01:40:07.480 And it's just terrible. 0.99

01:40:09.220 Daniel in Texas, then Joe and Brian, that's all we've got time for calls.

01:40:12.160 The show's over, and then the war room starts.

01:40:14.560 Coming up today, 3 p.m. Central.

01:40:16.200 normally harrison smith i think today is it rex jones or is it rob do uh but let's speak

01:40:20.460 to rob do let's go to daniel in texas you're on the air with the head of the uss liberty

01:40:24.320 association go ahead hi mr uh terney i just want to uh give a little word of encouragement

01:40:31.260 um there's a big population of americans especially the younger group that are waking

01:40:39.600 up to everything you've been through and the light is starting to shine in all the cockroaches

01:40:46.040 So I just want to give you a word of encouragement to hang in there.

01:40:49.820 There's a lot of people waking up to this, triple the number from when I was younger.

01:40:54.960 So what you're doing is working, and now we've got the ball rolling,

01:40:59.280 and now we've just got to keep this ball rolling.

01:41:01.240 Well, I agree with you, except I would say, I don't know how old you are,

01:41:04.520 but I'd say 100 times more people are awake now.

01:41:07.760 I mean, when I was first learning about the Liberty 30 years ago,

01:41:11.200 I learned about it earlier from my uncle, but didn't really pay attention to it.

01:41:13.800 I started talking about it 30 years ago.

01:41:16.040 I mean, there might have been 1% of people that knew, and I want to come back to you, Daniel, real quick, but Phil, I mean, exponentially, what percentage would you say people are awake to liberty now compared to 40 years ago?

01:41:30.860 Oh, it's like a rocket ship, Alex.

01:41:34.880 It's taken off, and, you know, the younger people are the ones that, and I'm so proud of them.

01:41:41.560 You know, you think about the greatest generation when we were fighting World War II.

01:41:50.240 We have another greatest generation coming up now that are smart, that can see the truth, Alex, and they don't like what they see.

01:42:01.360 And they want change.

01:42:03.160 So God bless the younger Gen Zs and the 50 years old. 0.98

01:42:07.820 They're finally waking up because of shows like yours, social media, podcasts all over the country, and they see how we became a slave of a foreign country with 9 million people. 0.73

01:42:25.660 So in 1948, they came there by Truman, and there was two things he could do. 0.54

01:42:40.540 He could either do it or face the consequences.

01:42:43.940 So that's how much power they had then.

01:42:46.060 Absolutely.

01:42:46.800 We're almost out of time.

01:42:48.020 Go ahead.

01:42:48.320 Go ahead.

01:42:48.520 Sorry.

01:42:49.480 I'm just saying the Palestinians welcomed them with open arms, and look what they got.

01:42:53.480 But Daniel, finish up.

01:42:55.800 Anything else?

01:42:57.400 Yeah, I just want to get the message out there kind of to people, for everybody.

01:43:03.420 The truth is getting out there, but I think we have to look at it

01:43:06.720 and we have to understand what's going on biblically.

01:43:09.700 I feel like that's the most important part.

01:43:13.300 Alex, years ago, the only reason why I'm here talking to you right now is because of you.

01:43:18.580 So, man, I tip my hat to you and everything I've learned from you.

01:43:22.080 in 2011, you had a pastor on. His name was Chuck Baldwin. He became my pastor, and I live here,

01:43:29.600 I live in New Braunfels, but I tune in every Sunday, and I've been going to church at Liberty

01:43:34.240 Fellowship with Chuck Baldwin. We got one of the survivors, I forget his name, but he is part of

01:43:39.580 our church, and Pastor Baldwin has him on from time to time, and he comes to visit our church,

01:43:44.560 but Pastor Baldwin right now is breaking this down biblically, so we understand biblically

01:43:50.120 what we're dealing with and how these people are, you know, I feel that.

01:43:54.840 Absolutely. We're out of time, brother. I appreciate your call.

01:43:56.860 I've got to get to everybody else now.

01:43:58.140 Joe in Florida, you're on the air. Go ahead. Thanks, Joe.

01:44:01.400 Hey, guys. Just want to apologize to both of you guys

01:44:04.380 for American citizens of what's been going on.

01:44:07.820 You deserve all the respect in the world, Alex.

01:44:09.840 And, of course, you failed to serve in the ultimate.

01:44:13.400 And, Alex, you are the only one that I heard about 20 years ago

01:44:17.840 to ever even approach this subject.

01:44:20.120 and kudos to both you for still going and trying.

01:44:23.360 It's like it's an atrocity, and Trump let us down again with this one,

01:44:27.520 unfortunately, and I'm not a Trump-hater.

01:44:28.880 I went to the bathroom three times, and if it was anybody that was going to switch

01:44:34.200 and help us with this situation, it would have been him,

01:44:36.340 but obviously not.

01:44:39.300 Your thoughts?

01:44:40.680 Well, I mean, from my sources at the White House,

01:44:43.240 Trump is legitimately mad at Netanyahu.

01:44:44.820 He says they tricked him into the war. 0.78

01:44:46.080 Still Trump's mistake, but Netanyahu is the real culprit. 0.92

01:44:48.600 And look, Trump's got big problems, but I want to see him do the right thing. 0.52

01:44:52.340 So I'm not going to disengage from Trump.

01:44:53.960 I'm going to keep promoting him doing the right thing.

01:44:56.100 Phil, what do you think about Trump?

01:44:59.380 Well, I'm kind of a mixed message on that, Alex.

01:45:04.840 I hope he does the right thing.

01:45:06.920 He is the president of the United States.

01:45:09.320 His obligation is to the people of this country.

01:45:12.600 And I hope he's seen enough of the slander that Netanyahu puts on him and our Congress.

01:45:23.900 You better do it or else.

01:45:26.560 And that's where I'm at.

01:45:28.220 I don't think Trump's going to do it for him anymore.

01:45:30.260 I hope not.

01:45:32.940 Well, Trump knows it's killing the economy.

01:45:34.880 He believed Netanyahu would last four days. 0.99

01:45:37.240 And I wouldn't have cried if we took the Mullahs out to get rid of them. 0.98

01:45:40.220 But, no, it's for Israel, and it's for regime change. 0.85

01:45:42.620 And now Israel wants to attack Turkey and Egypt again. 0.68

01:45:45.440 It's never enough in their greater Israel project. 0.56

01:45:48.580 Thank you, Joe. 0.74

01:45:49.320 Last caller, Brian in Texas.

01:45:50.600 You're on the air with Phil Turney.

01:45:52.040 Go ahead.

01:45:53.300 Hey, thanks, Alex.

01:45:54.240 So I was on the Republican Party of Texas platform committee this past week in Houston, Texas,

01:45:59.840 and I brought a resolution forward to calling for disengagement of the United States from the Persian Gulf,

01:46:07.660 eventual disengagement and also removing some of the you know the anti-semitism language you know

01:46:13.380 that uses the international holocaust remembrance organization definition and i got yelled at they

01:46:18.320 were booing me on the floor of the convention you could see it on youtube uh where i bring this is

01:46:23.220 5 000 delegates and so what has happened alex and phil is uh there is a christian zionist boomer

01:46:29.120 element uh that is in the party that is very strong that shows up at these conventions and

01:46:34.080 dominates them. And what we need, just to echo what some of the other callers came in and said,

01:46:40.000 is we need this next generation of, you know, red-pilled conservatives, you know,

01:46:44.620 base restorationists, people willing to question the status quo of the Republican Party. It's a

01:46:50.600 lot of millennials, a lot of Zoomers basically taking over the party. And I don't know. 1.00

01:46:55.780 That's right. We've got to get involved in the machinery. Instead of being disillusioned with

01:47:00.120 politics we got to get it at the machinery precinct convention level delegate level absolutely at the

01:47:06.240 delegate level the precinct level you're absolutely right and it's going to take time but you know

01:47:10.380 like when I brought that resolution forward and it wasn't even I mean this resolution was 0.81

01:47:14.680 supportive of Israel but it was saying we need to disengage from the Middle East long term and

01:47:21.180 you're not going to you know call people like Tucker Carlson an anti-semite but they were so

01:47:25.440 mad at me and I've been getting what's the name of the YouTube video we'll find it and put it in

01:47:29.420 post we repost this interview what was yeah well it's a republic the republican party of texas

01:47:34.640 did a they did that they put the convention on youtube it's toward the very end of it i'll send

01:47:39.980 it to your guys here in a little bit alex but you can see me going up to the mic you can hear the

01:47:44.600 booze uh but people were coming up to me afterwards thanking me saying we're with you brian the topic

01:47:49.840 of the uss liberty was being brought up by the way so people are well aware aware well that's

01:47:55.460 great news send that to us or put you on hold and tell the producers where to find it because i want

01:47:59.680 to throw that clip in here not in the live show it's almost over but when we post this to x and

01:48:03.000 rumble we'll insert that in right there phil you're coming to texas we'll talk to you soon

01:48:07.440 amazing job stay afloat from that day to today and phil tourney podcast.com god bless you sir

01:48:14.520 look forward to speaking to you soon great job my pleasure and god bless you alex and your staff

01:48:20.420 and uh god bless america god bless you thank you sir talk to you soon

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