00:00:00.000People became invested that in order to incriminate co-complicit co-conspirators, whether they be just his lover, whether they be the broader trans community, whether they be an intel op run awry, whether it be the Israel lobby, whether it be whoever was connected to the lies by the university security, the turning point.
00:00:22.600People became, to me, strangely invested in the idea that they had to exonerate Tyler Robinson, that it couldn't really be his car, that he couldn't really be there, that he was never really arrested, that if he was arrested, that his confession was post-dated his arrest on the Discord chats, that his mother and father were never involved, that he never volunteered.
00:00:43.500I mean, all these crazy claims that I was like, why are people going down?
00:00:47.040That's a trap to go down the trap of trying to convince yourself that Tyler Robbins had had nothing to do with this or wasn't on campus or it wasn't his car or it isn't him on that roof is something that people were not likely going to find credible.
00:01:00.360So what people were doing in pursuing alternative theories, understandably pursuing those alternative theories, is they were damaging and discrediting themselves by being obsessed with the idea that somehow Turning Point itself was involved or Erica Kirk was involved and that Tyler Robinson wasn't involved.
00:01:16.340The mistake is incriminating Tyler Robinson does not exonerate the deep state, does not exonerate co-conspirators, does not exonerate his partner, does not exonerate the trans-antifa community that was connected to this homicide, this murder, the cover-up of this murder, in my opinion.
00:01:32.940that does not exonerate Israel or the Israel lobby
00:01:35.820because we still received no explanation at all
00:02:02.840We know they're there. We know they had prior knowledge. Why is that not being brought forward by the state, by the feds?
00:02:08.080We know it's state investigation. Feds are involved. And then you speak to that.
00:02:12.440You have these weird, trans-furry discords at the highest levels of the NSA.0.56
00:02:18.240You have all of the sensitivity training run by them as a Praetorian Guard inquisition in the Pentagon and intelligence agencies, that exposed by Gabbard and others.0.68
00:02:27.900and then you have all of this nexusing in,0.97
00:02:31.520who is programming all these trans shooters to carb on the bullets,0.67
00:02:35.040to carb on the rifles, to say the same things, to do the same things,0.96
00:02:56.020oh yeah it definitely leads there's good inference in that direction and i think the more people
00:03:02.680pretend that tyler robinson is not that manchurian candidate the more they undermine uh independent
00:03:08.540exploration and investigation into whether he was in fact a manchurian candidate you don't get to
00:03:13.960pursue whether he's a manchurian candidate if you go around pretending he wasn't one sure when i said
00:03:17.780it was inclusive i'm saying i agree with you thanks for the finer point i'm saying it's conclusive
00:03:21.640that governments are connected to these programs and they were following the program to the letter
00:03:25.360precisely and and everything about this guy screams it i mean look at how much he mirrors
00:03:30.920crooks the in a wide range of peculiar sudden behavior you know comes from a sort of normie
00:03:36.980middle income background in middle america and we have the feds covering up the metadata and who
00:03:42.720he was working with which we know the feds were lying about this with crooks as well
00:03:46.040oh absolutely i mean we still i mean remember how he had he had a bunch of phones he had a bunch of
00:03:51.920apps he had a bunch of encrypted programs he had a bunch of like weird accounts that they never
00:03:57.160explored that they i mean they lied about even him having uh as you note as tucker carlson exposed
00:04:01.860him having any metadata metadata social media history so the they went to i mean who was he
00:04:07.080training with at the fbi uh at a particular shooting range that was known for having government
00:04:13.000agents present have they ever have they ever explained why he was they had a contract as
00:04:17.600their main training center there exactly we've had no explanation no exploration of it at all
00:04:23.520instead that whole thing was set up to falsely blame the uh to falsely blame iran real time
00:04:30.740uncensored unstoppable alexjoneslive.com take a stand share the link
00:04:39.120do you want to fight you better believe you got one
00:04:44.100and people get really emotional about this but you have to know when you tune into me
00:04:51.000that i'm 100 beholden only to what i believe the truth is and in a case like this where i'm not
00:04:57.560sure what really happened but i know the official story is not true it's the ultimate whodunit and
00:05:03.760And now that you've had the pretrial for five days and you've got the main trial coming up, what they showed at pretrial, which is their hold hand, the prosecution, appears to be damning that it is Tyler Robinson.
00:05:17.880But that doesn't mean he's not a patsy.
00:05:19.760That doesn't mean he doesn't have help.
00:05:48.180So, but just because there's a cover-up or they're managing this thing doesn't mean I know what it is.
00:05:54.380And I saw so much disinformation out there by people that were saying they know exactly how it happened
00:05:59.500that I just said there's no way that's true with known con artists and 12 colonels at Fort
00:06:04.040Huachuca and all of that. I was saying, this is discrediting what the real questions we have.
00:06:09.640Then, oh, you're an Israeli operative. No, I'm not. Neither is Nick Fuentes.0.61
00:06:14.680Neither is Robert Barnes. I'm simply looking at the facts. So now Barnes has had more time to look
00:06:21.680at what unfolded. I want to try to give him the floor to kind of recap what's happened.
00:06:25.520And then I think his theories, and by the way, this guy worked with me some in the first few years, the Sandy Hook thing, and he called the whole deal.
00:07:02.840We have all of our guests we have that are recurring have a very good track record of being accurate.0.99
00:07:07.460And Barnes is right up there at the top, okay?
00:07:11.080And sometimes we're wrong because things change or, you know, the course of history is fluid.
00:07:15.620And we're trying to have enough credibility, showing we know what we're talking about, to influence enough people in government and corporations and private life and individual people and little people and big people.
00:07:24.920Like Thomas Jefferson said, have an informed, involved, engaged public, and you'll have liberty.
00:07:29.040So we're not trying to make predictions that we show we have a great track record.
00:07:31.820We're trying to show we have a grasp on things to influence future events, not just call them and go see what he told you for the trillionth time.
00:07:38.840And, of course, Barnes gets attacked.0.99
00:07:40.280I got attacked for yesterday's show, which I don't mind, but it's, like, literally stupid.0.99
00:07:44.000like, oh, you're Mossad, it's all AI video, none of it's real, and it might be AI video,0.97
00:07:52.840we get lied to so much, but then they say, oh, we're going to show footage that he's
00:07:56.360on the roof, and then they don't show it, but they want details of it, and they zoom
00:08:01.580in on a still shot, where's the footage, and then the footage of him that looks like the
00:08:05.360rifle barrel in his leg, clearly something's there, people say, well, those are decoys,
00:08:10.320That's all fake. And I'm not saying we shouldn't look at that, but we can't always just look at
00:08:16.860things the way we want. And there is a cover up, but could it be something else like they're
00:08:22.960covering up who aided and abetted him because it goes back to the NGOs? That's what Barnes was
00:08:27.160saying. But it wasn't just a little bit of criticism we got. It was a lot, but in the
00:08:31.200aggregate, it was small. It was overwhelming. Barnes, what he said yesterday really resonated
00:08:36.040because I love to hear what the knowledge of the crowd says, what you post, what you say.
00:08:39.900It's an endless thought-provoking process.
00:17:22.520Oh, and he never talked with his boyfriend about trans stuff or politics.
00:17:26.980which is counter what other people have meanwhile the text messages are all talking about it so
00:17:32.660he's he's one way or the other lying correct he comes across as incredulous he he's he's emotion
00:17:39.980his emotional effect is not credible uh the what he described in terms of the backstory was not
00:17:46.160credible the the nature of his how he described his relationship was not credible the how he
00:17:51.840presented himself was not he also seems in the eyes and very confident so not just robotic there's an
00:17:58.200arrogance there yeah no doubt comes from an affluent family so everything about him seems
00:18:04.280off the what happened to tyler robinson seems off so we have that we know of the trans history and
00:18:10.500its ties to deep state manchurian candidate type product projects so the that's the second stage
00:18:16.840Then we have the third stage, which is we know of the university misleading turning point about securing the roof, locking access to the roof and their rights to have a drone or security of their own on the roof.
00:18:29.300And then that roof is being used as the one to commit the murder.
00:18:34.440And then we have the fourth stage of things to look for in a false flag.
00:18:38.200And again, that's not whether Tyler Robinson committed the murder.
00:18:41.100That's what other people aided, abetted, incited and created the scene and the setting, the circumstances for the murder to succeed.
00:18:47.740And the and that required goes to cover up.
00:18:50.660And we know the FBI did not fully investigate the TRANTIFA ties, the NGO funding ties, any other co-conspirator at all, nor.
00:19:00.000And in fact, if if Twiggs is in witness protection in Texas, then that would be the FBI, not the state of Utah, providing it.
00:19:08.040And we also know from Joe Kent, who was tipped off by Turning Point members, that they were concerned about whether there was a potential foreign government role in the murder of Charlie Kirk, including, but not limited to, an Israeli role, is that Joe Kent, who was at that point head of counterterrorism in the United States, so it was his legal duty and obligation to inquire and investigate into such possible foreign agency role, was shut down by Kash Patel's FBI.
00:19:35.980And let's be clear, just because I'm a witness of this, I get a call seven days after Kirk's killed by someone in the White House at the meeting.
00:19:44.760And there's this big meeting, cabinet meeting.
00:19:46.860Trump came in, but was out and said, I have back cash.
00:19:49.440And they said, you're not looking at in foreign involvement.
00:19:51.560They told Tulsi, how dare you look at intelligence when that office was set up in 2002, 2003, as you know, to do this and make sure they couldn't misintelligence again and oversight.
00:20:00.760And then they argue with Joe Kent about all this.
00:20:03.020Kent was not my source, though. Kent was talking before and after to our own reporter who didn't
00:20:09.360tell me because it was in confidence, because as soon as he said, Charlie's scared, they're
00:20:15.160going to kill him. Israel's going to kill him a month before. He was told that by a high-level0.98
00:20:19.280TPUSA folks. We'll leave it at that at a big Ron Paul event in South Texas at his 90th birthday
00:20:25.280deal. And he did put the tweet out then. And then he was talking to Kent after that. And I
00:20:30.640separately got that perspective from there and of course he's been on the shows then since
00:20:34.660and before but it's not like we were just saying that and months later it came out indeed
00:20:39.480Patel killed that so that's a big deal and the question is why isn't the defense in their
00:20:45.920pre-trial mentioning that they might bring that up they're only bringing up DNA they're they're
00:20:51.280not even I mean I know they're going to bring up that the bullet uh they're saying is inconclusive
00:20:55.400I want to get to that in a moment to me that is the reasonable doubt if they can you know get that
00:20:59.280Is it fragmented or whatever we're supposed to believe?
00:21:01.080And I get your frangible thing, and they do have those.
00:21:03.480But, I mean, all of it's still a stretch.
00:22:43.360And they said, he's out there operating totally insane, you know, extreme prejudice.
00:22:47.280they don't ever in the mafia it's like he needs to go for a trip or you know they they stylize it
00:22:53.740in yellowstone with take him to the train station for everybody doesn't know you don't have 12
00:22:58.060colonels in a skiff a crazy guy wanders in says all this and then he's a guy reason i went to
00:23:04.020canis nicely and said hey this guy's a con man he goes my wife locked me in the garage took my keys
00:23:08.600beat me with a hammer beat my car and then i'm sent he's convicted of hiding the keys beating
00:23:14.080with the hammer beating the car locking her and it's it's him and i go here's they go that is
00:23:19.960incredible who cares if he's a liar in the past which is true and then we're supposed to go with
00:23:24.900this false path uh it's i'm not going to accuse candace of things that but she's smart it's almost
00:23:31.160like what i would do if i was creating false trails off of what really happened go ahead
00:23:35.440that's precisely right they're always going to do that they're going to lead you i always say
00:23:40.460Every great crime needs a great patsy, but Robinson isn't the patsy.
00:23:44.120It's thinking he's not involved is the patsy because it has people chasing their tail around and going down rabbit holes that are never going to produce anything and that are going to act as self-discrediting storylines and narratives.
00:23:58.180And the instead, what should be looked at is why did the university lie about access to the roof?
00:24:04.140Why did the FBI shut down the investigation into the Trantifa organizations connected to this murder?
00:24:09.780Why did they shut down Joe Kent's investigation into possible foreign lobby suspects?
00:24:15.560And you have to be curious about in light of recent events where Israel is out there misleading the president into believing that he's at risk from Iran when everybody knows he's at risk from the Israel lobby in the deep state.
00:24:30.980You connect the dots between them shutting down the Trantifa investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder to shutting down a bunch of other Antifa investigations they said they were going to be doing to shutting down the Epstein investigations, including shutting them down, as we currently speak, in New Mexico, shutting down investigations into Butler's assassination attempt of President Trump beyond the very limited scope that they presented.
00:24:53.520And there you can identify Crooks as culpable and just also recognize that his connections were never explored or investigated.
00:25:16.040Why is that not being brought forward by the state, by the feds?
00:25:19.360We know it's state investigation, feds are involved.
00:25:20.940And then you speak to that. You have these weird trans-furry discords at the highest levels of the NSA. You have all of the sensitivity training run by them as a Praetorian Guard inquisition in the Pentagon and intelligence agencies, that exposed by Gabbard and others.
00:25:39.180and then you have all of this nexus-ing in,0.93
00:25:42.800who is programming all these trans shooters to carve on the bullets,0.68
00:25:46.340to carve on the rifles, to say the same things, to do the same things,0.97
00:28:27.620I mean, so they're clearly trying to contain this, so there is a cover-up, so we better figure out what's going on.
00:28:34.320And then we're told by the people that are exposing the government involvement, this is the narrative you look at with a bunch of obvious dead ends with known con men.
00:28:43.760And I would hope, I'm sure she's a good person, that Candace should say, I'm allowed to ask questions and then go over the real questions and then basically move away from where she was previously.
00:28:57.620But if she sticks with that narrative and issues, then I'm going to really be suspicious, Barnes.
00:29:51.080And that's where it's always important in these kind of cases not to get caught in the false choice of it's either Tyler Robinson is completely innocent and someone else did everything related to the murder, or it's only Tyler Robinson and nobody else had anything to do with the murder.
00:30:08.740That there is a truth that's usually in between those two.
00:30:12.140And the Tyler Robinson case is likely to not get anywhere because there's likely never going to be a full jury trial because he's likely to plead guilty.
00:30:19.800be and you can see that because of his as to your point his defense lawyer's behavior they didn't
00:30:24.820raise a lot of the kind of defenses you would raise if you were going to challenge his guilt
00:30:28.980they instead were trying to mitigate his guilt say that look at how he voluntarily turned himself in
00:30:35.000look at how he talked to his parents look at how he disclosed things to to Lance Twix look at how
00:30:39.420he did all of these things that's suggesting hey please don't give him the death penalty
00:30:43.320So we can negotiate a better plea does 20 years instead of life, life, life in prison.
00:30:49.440That's where they are apparently manifestly going.
00:30:51.780And they've seen all the evidence for months.
00:30:53.380So that tells you that they think that their client has very little chance of securing an acquittal.
00:30:58.260The and so given that the focal point should be the unanswered questions from this preliminary hearing, the unanswered questions.
00:31:05.960Why did the FBI cover up an investigation until Antwigs?
00:31:09.260Why did they fail to investigate in the Trantifa connections?
00:31:12.120Why did they tell Turning Point to not talk about those connections?
00:31:15.800Why did they tell people Turning Point not to talk about the case at all when that is unnecessary for the purpose of securing a conviction, given they knew how overwhelming the evidence was against Tyler Robinson?
00:31:26.520Why did they tell Joe Kent to stand down and not investigate foreign government connections to Tyler Robinson, to Lance Twiggs, to the Trantifa community, to the university police that misled Turning Point about the security on that day?
00:31:39.280Why was there no investigation into the university's very peculiar claims
00:31:42.760that they couldn't use a drone, that the building would be locked,
00:33:40.580Well, I think you point out that he clearly had training that has not been investigated because you're right.
00:33:46.880Somebody that has no known public training.
00:33:49.360That's one heck of a now I have heard from snipers and other people that in the gun community, and I don't claim to be a gun expert, say that they believe someone with just a minimal amount of training could do that.
00:34:00.880but i i share your suspicions and i've heard other people in the gun community say the same
00:34:06.140that they would have expected him to have more training than is publicly known and the and there
00:34:10.360was no exploration and apparently no investigation now you're the defense lawyers you have no interest
00:34:15.780in explaining that he's had a lot of training by people right i mean that that's where the defense
00:34:19.720is kind of bound they can't point to his guilt by pointing to other people's complicity in his guilt
00:34:25.320because what it does is point back to his guilt so it depends we rely on the prosecution and the
00:34:31.660feds to do an independent inquiry and i didn't hear any i didn't hear any testimony about how
00:34:36.900how did he develop where did he get his training how much training did he do how many shooting
00:34:41.100rangers did he go to did he have any friends or allies or associates with like the salt lake city
00:34:45.300trantifa group that is an you know an armed insurrectionary group that is receiving funds
00:34:51.320from connected NGOs with powerful political connections,
00:34:54.600including powerful political connections
00:34:56.100that could lead to both the intel community
00:35:50.080So I think everybody asking questions has a right to – I mean, I do think there's a lot of civil liability because I just covered what people questioned about Sandy Hook, barely did, and they had to set me up and said I was civilly liable and did all that.
00:36:03.560In the case of Candace Owens, she's been very direct about all this, and then later she says, no, I didn't say that, but you can go watch her.
00:36:12.120So what is your predictions just with the current information we have about what's going to happen with her?
00:36:17.520Yeah, I think if she would redirect her path towards the deep state history of ties to the trans community, assume that Tyler was the likely trigger man and pursue that path and recognize the turning point had nothing to do with it, Erica Kirk had nothing to do with it, then that I think would be more productive for her investigative work, but also would reduce her legal exposure.
00:36:40.940That the more she doubles down on Tyler Innocent and turning point guilty, the more she's going to be legally and politically vulnerable, which when she already faces issues related to the Snow case and related to the Macron case.
00:36:56.300So, you know, that's her risk to take if she sees it as the truth that she sees it. That's, you know, her privilege and prerogative. I just think it's a very high risk path.
00:37:04.700But most importantly, I think if she wants what she appears to want, which is truth and justice for Charlie and the possibility of an Israeli role, then drop pursuing turning point because that won't lead anywhere.0.66
00:37:17.520It's a bad it's a red herring. Drop trying to exonerate Tyler Robinson.
00:37:23.180Instead, pursue who are his trans ties. What's the history of the trans ties to the intelligence community?
00:37:29.100What's the ties to why did the university lie to turning point about security that day,
00:37:57.500We're just told she's the darling, don't question anything, Fort Wachuca, it's all real,0.99
00:38:02.400Mitch Lowe is just God, doesn't matter, he's a convicted con man who tells giant lies.
00:38:06.560And then we're supposed to just go with whatever she says and then accept all that and then watch her boosted.
00:38:15.020Whereas as soon as I started being critical of that, we saw massive suppression,
00:38:19.540even where I'm allowed to operate, by the systems coming in and flagging and things.
00:38:24.040So, I mean, I know when something's getting boosted and when it's not.
00:38:27.260And so why is there favor with big tech of what she's saying?
00:38:30.580Because TPSA got Trump over the yard line and Republicans is getting young people to vote.
00:38:35.300So if you could say it's a Mossad operation that killed Charlie and then now that actually rabbit trails away from Mossad and, you know, the real operations and the TRANTIFA NGOs and the larger leftist groups up above it, well, then you're hitting on all cylinders if you're the establishment.
00:38:52.860I mean, you want to talk about facts, there it is.
00:38:56.720And I think they also wanted, you know, Charlie Kirk's legacy kind of discredited by implication because, you know, Charlie went into great detail about what the name that he thought October 7th was an inside job by Israel.
00:39:07.960He went into detail about the Epstein files and where it would lead.0.54
00:39:12.040And he basically sounded exactly like he was.0.62
00:48:37.740So for Trump to take the bait again on what is clearly an Israeli PSYOP0.68
00:48:44.620to convince the president that he was the target of Iran in Butler,
00:48:49.880that he was the target of Iran rather than Ukraine in the deep state in Florida,
00:48:53.520and that he is now the target of Iran again is incredible for him to be susceptible to such a
00:49:01.200psyop, suggests his mental state is, as we've been talking about, not what it used to be
00:49:05.700in terms of, you know, discipline, logic and application thereof. It's a guy who used to
00:49:10.200never trust, who thought October 7th was an inside job himself. He told Newsweek and Time
00:49:14.880and other people at the time. So for him to take the bait on this, and you're absolutely right,
00:49:19.520What it does is it motivates and incentivizes anybody that's incentivizes some whack job that's that's a pro-Israeli whack person to say, oh, wow, if I really want complete attack on Iran, just assassinate Trump.
00:49:39.680The only thing that protects President Trump from assassination at this point on these grounds is the presence of Vice President Vance, who's known to be skeptical and critical of this war and doesn't want us to escalate any further and wants us to de-escalate with a meaningful negotiated path that could be mutually beneficial, but would require Israel be put in a box.
00:50:00.900So for Israel to threaten, I mean, for everybody to remember,0.63
00:50:05.500the first gift they brought to Trump in his second term was a golden pager.
00:50:28.320Congress should open investigations into what's been taking place because effectively, this is what Joe Kent's been talking about, that the president feels under threat in order to do what Israel lobby demands he do and that the under the guise and disguise that the threat's coming from Iran when it's really it's not coming from Tehran.
00:50:56.540We have Trump not meeting with Netanyahu when he said he was going to come to town two weeks ago,
00:51:02.940and Trump said, remember, I'm the boss, I didn't meet with him.
00:51:04.780Then Trump snubbed him at the NATO event.
00:51:07.880You have Vance coming out against Israel and Trump.
00:51:10.820Is that cover or rhetorical, or does he now understand that he's got a break with Netanyahu
00:51:17.160and that Netanyahu suckered him into this war?
00:51:19.400What do you think is really happening?
00:51:21.920Unfortunately, his decision-making is really erratic.
00:51:24.580But, I mean, you know what, you know, the viral clip way back when he came out and criticized you, he knew was accurate, which is his decision.
00:51:34.060You know, he's over 80. His decision making is declining. His executive function is disappearing.
00:51:39.560He goes from thought to emotion very fast, and he makes decisions often sort of on his gut, which used to be very reliable and no longer is.0.87
00:51:49.380That's why he was trying to walk back the criticisms of Iran
00:51:52.900and the attacks on Iran and saying Iran was begging for a deal
00:51:56.380when he was the one begging for a deal
00:51:57.800because he realized that he can't afford this,
00:52:00.260we can't afford it economically in the buildup to the midterms.
00:52:03.700And it seems like this is, I don't know whether it's a distraction effort
00:52:06.900to justify the mistake that he himself admitted over this past week
00:52:10.580when he decided to pull out of the MOU effectively and attack Iran
00:52:14.180that just led Iran to say, well, maybe we'll just close the strait
00:52:16.920and he'll be economically off a cliff, or if he really believes it.0.61
00:52:21.700Whichever it is, he's put himself in a perilous position, unnecessarily so.0.86
00:52:27.100And I wish he would just delegate to Vance everything related to Iran.0.96
00:52:31.580Let Vance handle everything related to Iran.
00:52:33.860In a business construct, we would call it a conflict of interest,
00:52:37.580what Trump has when he's elevated his own personal well-being to this degree.
00:52:43.220Understandably so, but it's what creates a conflict of interest.
00:52:46.120why, like, you know, family members can't investigate crimes
00:52:49.280concerning a harm to their family member.
00:55:34.260Curtis LeMay had a plan with Ella Lemonster to attack our own bases, claim they'd launch a Russian nuclear attack out of Cuba, go to full nuclear war.
00:55:43.500And they said, don't worry, you know, 30, 40 million Americans will die.
00:57:06.700Yeah, but how would Israel take on Turkey?
00:57:08.440People who don't know, it's the old Ottoman Empire.
00:57:10.240It's got giant weapons production facilities.
00:57:12.560It's got an old military that's been professional for hundreds and hundreds
00:57:17.000and hundreds of years, and I read the analysis of NATO, everybody.1.00
00:57:19.820I mean, you don't want to mess with Turkey.0.97
00:57:22.100I mean, we're talking about tens of thousands of huge missiles that will get, I mean, they probably got 20 times the missiles of the Iranians.0.63
01:00:02.000And, you know, I think what we need is the more rational, reasonable actors
01:00:04.600to hopefully win out in the middle of all this.0.87
01:00:06.680And I think what puts us at great risk is Russia.
01:00:09.340You know, Russia feels they're under existential threat, that Europe doesn't respect their nuclear deterrence.
01:00:14.540The, you know, China has their internal economic issues that has them on edge.
01:00:18.380And then you have President Trump, who, in my view, just isn't fully there, not the old Trump.
01:00:23.740And that's a very that that's like the build up to World War One that led us to World War Two and fascism and communism in a near century lost for large parts of the globe.
01:00:33.560We're back to that risk profile and portfolio.
01:00:38.700And that's why we need the peace elements, the diplomatic elements,
01:00:42.220the geopolitical realist elements to dominate and to surge and to find a way out.
01:00:48.080You know, Putin has a very strong, realistic impulse.
01:00:57.800I want to bookmark now a whole other subject that ties into these other proxy wars.
01:01:02.200We're clearly in a new world war, just hasn't gone nuclear yet.
01:01:05.120That's the Rand Corporation, the Pentagon, the Russians.
01:01:07.620They're all calling it for at least two years a new world war.
01:01:09.960It has all the ingredients, all of the world, major proxy powers, a massive death, huge kinetic force, huge forces moving, economic crises affecting the entire globe.
01:01:18.660We have the foreign minister who says Russia no longer believes the West wants negotiations.
01:01:22.460The goodwill and hopes are completely exhausted.
01:01:24.280He claims that you've got Putin saying, who do you think you are?
01:01:28.900all we ever hear is, you must, you have to, we're warning you, who even are you?
01:01:35.320So the Russians, and I've had insiders on, like Victor Boot months ago, and now it's
01:01:40.860confirmed, the Russians are getting ready to massively escalate, they're now threatening
01:01:44.540NATO countries where weapons are being made under international rules of law, they technically0.57
01:01:47.900do that, I'm not calling for that, but they already thought Russia would balk at the red
01:01:51.980line of Ukraine, they didn't, now they're saying you're passing our new red line, and
01:01:56.380saying, you expect us not to escalate. You've already escalated. We've got to escalate.
01:02:00.360He's under major pressure to do it. What's your take on this? And what's the timetable? This is
01:02:03.960dangerous. Yeah, I think Russian, you know, the old, the famous Prussian leader, the who said1.00
01:02:11.920that the Russians are slow to get on their horse, but once they do, they ride fast. The and that's0.70
01:02:19.120what we're running in the risk of that these constant needle pricks into the Russian refining
01:02:55.160Yep. I mean, they're just enraging the Russian populace to where they are demanding that Putin be more aggressive, more assertive than the the fact that Europe is bragging about using its drone space to use its airspace to allow Ukrainian drones to hit Russia.
01:03:12.580The fact that I think mistakenly Trump let Rubio go on and on and NATO about how we're authorizing deep strikes into Russia.
01:03:22.100And under the guise, under the theory or premise that escalation will lead to de-escalation, that is not the Russian response mechanism.
01:03:29.720Escalation leads to more escalation, not de-escalation.
01:03:32.940So the Russians are talking about first taking out arms depots in NATO Europe.
01:04:25.140And so we're running high, high risk with Russia.0.93
01:04:28.420At the same time, we're running high, high risk with Iran.0.54
01:04:31.780I think Putin's been very wise to not be – to be very measured because the unelected NATO and the EU, they are out of their minds.0.79
01:04:44.040They're megalomaniacs like Napoleon and Hitler, and I understand why the Russians with a million debt or whatever it is want to finish it.0.77
01:04:52.280But they ought to think they're lucky stars they got Putin because the globalists are crazy enough to get a nuclear war going.0.95
01:06:18.800And they've said, and we believe that when we blow up the Polish bases with your weapons, that NATO will be smart and back down.0.93
01:06:25.540But if you want to go ahead and go, go ahead and hit our forces, and we're going to put Russians into Poland, into an area, so you can target them, and we're off the races.0.97
01:06:35.400And, I mean, do you think the EU crazies are that crazy?0.99
01:06:38.660Do you think Trump's crazy enough to go ahead and do this?0.98
01:06:42.360I've been shocked that they're talking the way they're talking right now.0.70
01:06:46.280I mean, Ukraine is losing on the battlefield.
01:06:52.620But basically, Donbass is gone by the fall.
01:06:55.540And that was the last long fortified line.
01:06:59.500Like, people had wondered why the war went so slow.
01:07:01.920You know, from the history we've talked about before.
01:07:03.520It's like World War I fought with robots.
01:07:05.220Yeah, and you've got that deeply entrenched fortified line
01:07:10.400that goes all the way back to the Soviet Union when they won World War II
01:07:14.560to being afraid that that would be the main line of attack
01:07:18.180through Europe to the underbelly of the Soviet Union.
01:07:20.140It's the equivalent of a marginal line that the French had.
01:07:23.340And for those that don't know, that's where the Germans invaded into Russia.
01:07:26.520So the Ukrainians reversed it and are using that line meant to repulse a NATO attack against the Russians continue.
01:07:33.160And so now that that that Russian anti-NATO line has been breached.
01:07:37.560Exactly. Basically, it's starting to crack entirely.
01:07:41.140And once that goes, as you know, from wars of attrition, they go slow, slow, slow.
01:07:46.000And then they go real fast. And that's what Ukraine is on the verge of facing.
01:07:50.600That's why they're getting so desperate.
01:07:52.240That's why they're increasing their drone attacks.
01:07:54.940That's why they're willing to hit girls' schools.0.50
01:07:56.600That's why they're willing to hit girls' soccer teams.
01:07:58.860That's why they're trying to – and that's why they're getting Trump to sucker into saying, yeah, more deep attacks into Russia.
01:08:04.200All that does is escalate Russia's mindset and mentality, and there's nobody rational in Europe at the moment.
01:08:10.800I think we're a few years away from getting it.0.81
01:08:12.880Le Pen won part of her case, so she'll be able to run for election in 2027, and I think she'll be elected president of France.
01:08:20.600AFD is surging and the off day is surging in Germany.
01:08:25.300They're probably to win the next German elections before restore reform may win the next UK elections.
01:08:30.620So then we may get some reasonable people in Europe, but we got it.
01:08:33.440We're on the tick tock on the clock until we get to that point.
01:08:36.460And the and the risk is that they escalate before that in such a way that becomes irreversible because you have serious intellectuals discussing the use of nuclear weapons by Russia to prove their Russian, their nuclear deterrence to Europe.
01:08:50.600and the Europeans are not taking it seriously,
01:08:53.880and that's exactly the recipe for all of a sudden you're in an out-of-control escalatory war.
01:08:59.120You long talk about most of these great wars that have happened throughout all of human history
01:09:03.360tend to just suddenly escalate out of the blue because people start things that they can't stop.
01:09:08.740They get that ball rolling downhill, and it ain't coming back up, and that's our great risk.
01:09:13.800All right, Barnes, incredible hour plus you spent with us.
01:09:18.200People can find you at vivabarneslaw.locals.com and on X at Barnes underscore law, just Robert
01:10:38.900And I just wish Trump would, like, take a nap for a week or something and just get back to the one we had before, because there was no big wars, great the first time, didn't get as much done.
01:10:49.120And then now it's just that they learned to not fight him and just sycophant him.
01:10:53.840And they just glaze him and dump on the sugar and the whipped cream, and he just goes with it.
01:11:01.380Do you have any faith he can snap out of it?
01:11:03.340Or the way this is going trajectory, is he going to get worse?
01:11:06.400Is there anything we can do in closing, Barnes?
01:11:08.900Yeah, and my hope is that he, what I've encouraged people in the White House to do is to, you know, focus him on areas where he can be maximum productive, and that's more than certain domestic economic agenda, and away from some of these foreign policy risks where the sycophantic approach is suckering him into, you know, very risky decisions.
01:11:30.620You know, just delegate to Vance a whole bunch of different areas in that space.
01:12:37.180And he's proven his efforts to get that MOU done in the first place with Iran, taking on the Israel lobby, taking on the deep state, taking on the media establishment, and at times taking on the president himself.
01:12:48.320And that if we can get back to that, which is what Pakistan, what Saudi Arabia, what everybody else in the region wants to happen, then that will be an extraordinary achievement by itself.
01:12:59.280Also taking efforts to undermine escalation towards Ukraine, taking efforts to put Trump on the right path domestically.
01:13:07.240We now know from the book Regime Change, he was saying the same thing you were saying about the Epstein files.
01:13:12.920Get it all out. Disclose everything. Don't worry about the fallout.