01:00:25.080Because fewer people in that age group means less tax revenue coming in
01:00:30.680and more pressure on social security. Social security works by having current workers pay
01:00:37.020for current retirees. With fewer workers in the pipeline, the ratio of people paying into people
01:00:44.500collecting benefits gets far worse. Trustees reports already show the program shortfalls
01:00:51.120growing partly because of lower birth rates over time. Over the longer term, a smaller working age
01:00:58.400population also means slower economic growth, a tighter labor market in some fields, not to
01:01:06.260mention what AI will do to those fields, and a heavier load on the people who remain to support
01:01:12.900an aging population. The size of the gap from those years is already shaping what the country
01:01:19.420looks like going forward. John Bowne reporting for the Alex Jones Network at AlexJonesLive.com.
01:01:28.400From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones.
01:01:58.400Well, we're now into hour number two on this live October 19, 2026 Monday transmission.
01:02:20.220This is the biggest breaking news yet in the J6 pipe bombing fiasco that could easily bring down the entire deep state.
01:02:33.060Clearly, the Trump administration joined in on the ongoing cover-up just weeks after this woman that had been Capitol Police that worked for the CIA was connected by data to potentially being the person planting these supposed pipe bombs.
01:02:47.360Then suddenly they went and they found this young black man who they were then able to try with no evidence to connect to it, Brian Cole Jr.
01:02:59.820And then, of course, we had Steve Baker and others do incredible investigative journalistic work tracking all this back.
01:03:06.180Now, new CTV camera footage with the timestamps, all of it clearly shows that Brian Cole Jr. was not anywhere near this happening.
01:03:16.740at the very exact same time, time-stamped, that the supposed person that's supposedly him is planting these bombs.
01:03:27.100So I want to just bring Carl Serafin in here to give the background on this and go into the new developments.
01:03:31.400But this is so huge, and you have the deputy director and the FBI director always saying this was a cover-up until they got in
01:03:39.960and then getting extremely aggressive about it once they got in
01:03:43.740and then suddenly producing what now the evidence shows conclusively is a patsy.
01:03:48.160He was completely exonerated, and that is Brian Cole Jr.
01:03:51.800Then we supposedly have this confession, this transcript.
01:03:55.500So we couldn't have a better guest on.
01:03:57.500Famous whistleblower, been vindicated over and over again.
01:04:00.000Also, strangely enough, in counterterrorism, was assigned after J-6 to that area,
01:04:05.140happened to surveil a house next door to this CIA Capitol police lady.
01:04:10.140So we couldn't have a better guest on.
01:06:15.680What you see is the man we believe is Brian Cole Jr.
01:06:18.500At exactly the time that the pipe bomber is supposedly wandering around over by the DNC
01:06:22.620and the RNC on a loop to drop pipe bombs.
01:06:25.020Now, this only came out from a very sort of fortuitous moment where the defense for Brian Cole said they would like to suppress his his confession.
01:06:36.000And what they did is they released a transcript of four hours of FBI interrogation, two hours of which Brian Cole Jr. tells them what he was doing in D.C. on that day.
01:06:45.760And what he says is, I went to a protest. I'd never done that before. I drove up there in my own Nissan. I wanted to go and see what was happening at the area.
01:06:53.920I supported what was going on with the people expressing their discomfort with the election in 2020.
01:06:58.480I thought it was wrong to say that all those people, you know, didn't matter and that they were conspiracy theorists.
01:07:03.020So we're talking about a man who basically explained what he was doing and why he was doing it.
01:07:07.600And so the interrogators are trying to get to the bottom of it.
01:07:10.860Now, what they want to do is they want to get him to admit that he dropped pipe bombs and he went up there to drop pipe bombs.
01:07:15.180But when they're asking him, he's an autistic guy that had not previously been diagnosed.
01:07:19.180And so anybody who saw him prior knew that he was autistic.
01:07:23.200I know people that live near him and said the same thing.
01:07:25.960They were like, it's pretty obvious he's on the spectrum by the way he walks and the way he carries himself.
01:07:30.460And you can talk to him and he won't respond and this kind of thing.
01:07:33.460But essentially, he voiced this stuff in the middle of this transcript.
01:07:37.640And nobody had access to this transcript until the defense said, hey, we'd like to suppress this.
01:07:41.840Now, this is just my analysis on this, Alex.
01:07:43.640And I don't know that it to be a factual truth.
01:07:45.840But it looks like the defense was letting the public know this is how shitty this interrogation was.
01:07:51.700And for two hours, the man maintained his innocence. Even after being accused, he resisted the pressure. And he said, you know, I was at a I was standing alone. I wanted around. I went to a protest. I was there about an hour. I was in front of the Capitol, which has some meaning to people that understand where the Capitol is. It faces one direction and so on.
01:08:10.000and so from that transcript armitas the sort of like i said a video researcher that's been working
01:08:16.580with steve baker went through the hundreds of cameras that point in that area for the hours
01:08:21.900that needed to be seen he said it was dark so you got hours of darkness basically and then
01:08:26.320specifically they were looking for the time when the pipe bomber is actually wandering around
01:08:29.860in the folger park loop uh between the dnc and the rnc and it totally substantiates him including
01:08:36.340the coat his family bought him with the actual tag still hanging you can see skinny legs you can
01:08:42.860see from other videos of him at traffic stops clearly it matches up this is incredible and of
01:08:48.260course the fbi didn't think to go check the cameras to see if what he said was true uh alex i'd say
01:08:53.780they probably did what you're seeing on the screen right now are the actual shoes that are currently
01:08:57.340in the possession of the cole family because they came out of his closet those are the way that he
01:09:01.260wears his shoes and it's why he actually ended up started wearing crocs they stopped buying him nice
01:09:05.260running shoes like those uh these new balance which are runners that have retro reflective tape
01:09:09.560on them and it's because he was crushing down the back of the heel and when you watch the video that
01:09:13.960baker released and they pointed out really well and they do a bunch of really good freeze frames
01:09:17.280it shows that his white socks are actually coming out of the shoe because his foot's not all the
01:09:22.560way in the shoe in the back and when you watch it enough times the way i was looking at i was
01:09:25.820looking at the way the foot hit and i went there's something wrong with this you know with the way
01:09:29.200that his foot is hitting the ground it looks like the shoe hits first and then his body hits second
01:09:33.120And what's happening is because the shoe is actually hanging off like a
01:09:36.040sandal or like a slide that see people wear like the soccer pairs player
01:09:39.740slides, he actually lands with the toe first,
01:09:42.500the shoe hits first and then his heel actually makes impact with the ground.
01:12:16.620And I think that any reasonable person, especially a Washington, D.C. jury, is going to look at a black man who's lumbering in a certain way, who's wearing his shoes the way that Brian Cole Jr. did, who's got a jacket on that his grandmother is going to testify she bought.
01:12:27.520She said she bought it with a Cole's credit card, which should be easily accessible to the FBI.
01:12:31.340And the deep kind of dark part of it is, is I think the FBI probably ruled him out in February of 2021, which is when they identified all the 186 cell phone numbers and they moved on.
01:12:41.280What you're seeing at that little sort of clip that your folks were just showing was at 757.
01:12:45.1807.57, it's kind of the earliest, grainiest, shittiest footage they have of this sort of stream of putting multiple cameras together, but they backtrack from the good video that you and I just saw where you can see him pull the mask down, and then they went and they said, okay, well, who, you know, who was that person, tracked him through all the different cameras and got about eight minutes of him walking.
01:13:02.300What you're also seeing is that the pipe bomb was physically on foot and captured on surveillance cameras about a mile away at the exact same time.
01:13:09.300It doesn't have big shoulders and isn't a black guy.
01:13:18.340Brian Cole, autistic, minimal arm swing, keeps his hands close to his body, has a strange shuffle ship.
01:13:24.120And part of that is because he's not actually wearing his shoes all the way.
01:13:26.560Again, he works better in Crocs, which is why they ended up stopped buying him the nicer shoes because he was crushing them and breaking them.
01:13:32.300And you have right there, you know, a pretty decent instinct of how tall he is.
01:13:36.980Those are 42-inch little ballers there, whatever they're called, ballers,
01:13:40.300those black kind of dividers that keep cars from going into the sidewalk.
01:13:43.460But you can't even see when he pulls the mask down, it's him.
01:25:28.060and the family saying he's totally innocent.
01:25:31.460What is the deep state going to do now?
01:25:33.900And the bigger question is why suddenly four months
01:25:37.300of the administration last year, the new administration,
01:25:40.500did they start covering up Epstein, Crooks in Pennsylvania,
01:25:47.140this event, then with Kirk to cover up.
01:25:49.680I mean, it was like there was a total shift.
01:25:52.040And I remember Tucker at the time telling me about this in person,
01:25:55.380saying, man, I just had Bongino screaming and cussing
01:25:58.040and yelling at me totally freaking out what's really going on here Kyle just big picture because
01:26:02.880this is this is really frightening what's funny because I still remember where I was when you
01:26:07.940were telling me that you had just been with Tucker and that happened so you and I are talking I was
01:26:12.320returning a grocery cart about to get back in my minivan and leave an HEB with my kids and it was
01:26:17.520it was something that took place you know June and then the beginning of July like over the weekend
01:26:22.620of July 4th was kind of like when I noticed it really kind of swing into full play but we ended
01:26:27.460doge we ended the butler investigation we stopped looking into epstein the files were closed they
01:26:31.640dropped it on a on a sunday night and they said we're not going to do that and he killed himself
01:26:35.560and stop asking all the questions and whatever it was you thought was going to happen is not
01:26:39.340and it just seemed like that was when you know if there was a power struggle happening inside
01:26:44.180of our government between let's call it uh you know administrative state people who just want
01:26:48.920the status quo and whatever the reform that trump was representing that i think people wanted
01:26:53.820uh that's when the battle was lost it was lost like right at the beginning of july going like
01:26:58.500from the fourth to the seventh it was really the official kind of end of it and you and i were
01:27:02.420talking and you told me i just had this crazy conversation i'm here i am talking to tucker
01:27:05.940carlson and he's got you know i hear a bunch you know screaming at him in the other room
01:27:09.960and we just saw tucker go out and and kind of say if you guys saw the conversations that we had and
01:27:14.740i'm not going to share the text messages but they were atrocious i had real time you know sort of
01:27:19.440secondhand confirmation that what he's talking about is real because you and i were talking
01:27:22.920about it right then so i don't know what the answer is i don't know what their response is to
01:27:26.660this i suspect nothing if like if it was me and you and i have talked about some of the failures
01:27:31.900the trump administration have had on messaging alone their biggest failure has been trying to
01:27:37.540cover up and say that the things that we did are not a big deal and you know you're that we don't
01:27:41.460need your support anymore and all this kind of stuff and now they're panicking because the midterms
01:27:44.960are looking atrocious i i think their best answer which is probably what they'll do is they're going
01:27:49.060to act like this didn't happen the problem is is two million people saw this yesterday on x
01:27:53.040and there will be more as well and it'll be shared around and i saw a couple hundred thousand people
01:27:57.000just saw it on steven crowder's and a couple hundred thousand yeah it's blowing up and then
01:28:00.380what happens when they finally have a trial i'm worried they're going to epstein brian cole jr
01:28:04.860you you can't expect that they're going to win look that may be the end goal like maybe they
01:28:09.100don't have like a ton of evil in them and let's give them the benefit of the most doubt which i
01:28:12.740don't think is justified you take brian cole jr you keep him in prison for the next couple months
01:28:16.940his trial is supposed to start in february of next year and you put that in front of a dc jury
01:28:21.180and the defense rolls out and says hey we think he's actually here uh they got the wrong guy and
01:28:24.780by the way we have an alternate subject theory and the alternate subject has a bunch of problems
01:28:28.340and was excused by the mainstream media and got a puff piece by the new york times and
01:28:32.120was keeping track of puppies just kidding they were dogs just kidding it's just a dog that's
01:28:36.320a old greyhound and she's not in the video and nobody could ever fake the metadata and we're
01:28:39.980not going to give you the metadata anyway that kind of nonsense they could go and do that and
01:28:43.920then you're gonna have jurors who are in washington dc who are left-leaning that um several of them
01:28:49.840are gonna be black and they're gonna go you bullied the crap out of a kid for two hours
01:28:54.180who's on the autism spectrum who's ocd there's this video that's probably him on the other side
01:29:00.020of of the capital you don't have an answer for that you couldn't find him for five years and
01:29:04.620let me just get the biggest picture to believe that brian cole jr is the right guy which i never
01:29:09.560have. You'd have to believe that the FBI, which we spend $11 billion a year on, couldn't find
01:29:15.200someone who committed the most dangerous crime on January 6th while carrying his own phone,
01:29:20.860while driving his own car and buying parts for a bomb with his own credit card. And it took the
01:29:25.440FBI five years to find that person. That's utter bullshit. There's no way that's true. That could
01:29:29.420never be true. And you can't tell me that you didn't find out anything new. And then suddenly
01:29:33.400you're like, oh, we just brought in a red team and they were able to look at the same data and
01:29:38.000the FBI couldn't handle it. The FBI finds people who have been kidnapped in hours on a regular
01:29:42.000basis. They help out local law enforcement with this. I've seen it. I sat next to the cell phone
01:29:46.360analyst team. There's one of the guys who was dedicated to that actual team. He was a national
01:29:50.400asset. He sat in Las Cruces, New Mexico, and I've watched him do that. I've watched him find somebody
01:29:54.640in real time from cell phone pings. So there's no way that this was a true story. It was always
01:29:59.140crap. And if you go look, and I think I sent you guys the Hannity clip, Sean Hannity, he just put
01:30:03.640the nail in the coffin for the new White House press secretary. He kind of like shut her down
01:30:06.780And she ended up being fired the next morning.
01:30:09.160He kind of did the same thing to Daniel Bongino.
01:30:11.580He brought him on right on this on this on the eve of this on December the 4th of last year.
01:30:16.100And he said, hey, man, you used to say that it was a government insider and it was a deep state plot and that it was the Democrats doing all this stuff.
01:30:21.820And now you're saying it's somebody else.
01:30:25.020And Dan goes and he just looks down and goes, I think the public will be pretty comfortable with the subject that we've introduced to you.
01:30:33.340try to go in front of a federal magistrate judge and they say is there probable cause to believe
01:30:37.140this person committed the crime and you say we're pretty comfortable it's never going to happen if
01:30:42.260you want to roll the clip it yeah we will and i want to explain something i like bongino before
01:30:46.860i'm not this is not a hard on about bongino it's about his behavior and the position he was in
01:30:53.940and the 180 he did so before i want to go to hannity he took the victory lap on this arrest
01:31:00.020for whatever it's worth he owned it he got out there and he he claimed it was him he said he
01:31:04.560was the you know he was the one cash patel said he spearheaded the effort to go out and find him
01:31:08.700yeah so let's go to daniel bongino's birthday let's go to this clip one is that first i don't
01:31:13.480want to show what tucker said about bongino freaking out on him about this pipe bomber
01:31:18.880information but first here's the clip you're mentioning from anony you know i don't know if
01:31:23.860you remember this this is before you became the deputy uh fbi director you you put a post on x
01:31:29.660right after this happened and you said there's a massive cover-up because the person that planted
01:31:35.180those pipe bombs, they don't want you to know who it is because it's either a connected anti-Trump
01:31:41.900insider or an inside job. You said that, you know, long before you even thought of as deputy FBI
01:31:48.540director. Yeah, that's why I said to you this investigation's just begun. We are pretty
01:31:56.360comfortable. We have our guy. I think, again, legal process starts to surface and information
01:32:01.860and facts start to come out. The public's going to be very comfortable with the investigation
01:32:05.800that was conducted under Director Patel and his leadership. He's been great on this.
01:32:12.040But I don't want to, you know, listen, I was paid in the past, Sean, for my opinions. That's clear.
01:32:17.200And one day I'll be back in that space. But that's not what I'm paid for now. I'm paid to be your
01:32:21.840deputy director and we base investigations on facts. And, you know, it was interesting. I was
01:32:26.840looking out in the crowd today at the presser and I saw a couple of media figures who you and I both
01:32:33.100know who promoted the other scandal, the collusion hoax. And I thought to myself, you know, the
01:32:38.740difference between us and them is, you know, we evolve as information and new inputs come out.
01:32:43.820We can produce different outputs because that's what we believe in. We believe in facts and
01:32:48.460investigations guided by facts. There were people out there in that crowd. I'm sure I'm sure still
01:32:53.620believe in this collusion fairy tale hoax. So we'll see. We're going to be guided by the facts
01:32:58.980as this thing goes forward. And I also I can't stop that. You know, I leave the leave the truck
01:33:06.120here without thanking the president, the president. Wow. When somebody is asked a serious question and
01:33:13.700they bring up another case entirely and how the liberals lie so just trust me that's an appeal to
01:33:19.700just trust me bro i don't know what else you call that that that's that that's really bad
01:33:24.400and and then now this whole thing continues to fall apart uh really really really wild
01:33:29.580and so i wonder what they're going to do you know like you said they just hope it goes away and then
01:33:35.800he just gets found not guilty i guess and then and then we just forget about it but in the court
01:33:39.780public opinion they're pretty convicted uh do we as bongino responded to this since it broke
01:33:45.280over the weekend no he said he watches moranistan and podcast podcastistan for people so they don't
01:33:51.180have to and everybody just needs to go to the polls this is this is all attempts to to stop
01:33:55.520donald trump's midterm victory let me let me add a couple of pieces of commentary to what you just
01:33:59.260saw on that on that hand hold on wait wait he said without addressing it just offhandedly this
01:34:04.140is a dirty trick he just said yeah there's dirty tricks afoot right now so make sure you vote hard
01:34:08.920that was that make sure we put brian cole in prison right that's right so there's a couple
01:34:14.680things number one uh you know any port in the storm when you know that you're lying is is
01:34:18.800somewhere to go i suppose and what you saw dan do is uh daniel pump pivots to russia gate which
01:34:24.140is a thing he's written books about and he has you know credentialism on and authority so people
01:34:28.020kind of know that so he does the best he can to walk away from that and says you know you can't
01:34:31.640trust these people who are going to be critical of me because uh they probably believed in russia
01:34:35.060gate. Uh, it's like, okay, well that doesn't really help us in any meaningful way. So that's
01:34:39.480part one. The second thing he brings up Donald Trump and cash Patel, he's shaking his head left
01:34:43.920to right. Like you would say no, while he says cash Patel has been awesome on this. That's kind
01:34:48.060of funny. And then I guess maybe the most important bit in the last little bit, he calls out how
01:34:51.840Donald Trump, you know, if you didn't work for Donald Trump, you couldn't do this. Donald Trump
01:34:55.560has never publicly congratulated cash Patel, Pam Bondi, Janine Pirro, or Daniel Bongino for their
01:35:01.520work on this case you guys can look it up you can go to the archives trump who calls out every
01:35:06.360victory his uh his team has has had cash patel show up and do like a fake briefing of great
01:35:11.840statistics of how the fbi is performing has never once said great job on this you guys got the pipe
01:35:17.160bomber because nobody on his staff from what i hear believes that this is a legit case now best
01:35:21.680case scenario best case scenario for like i don't know like the nothing happens kind of thing they
01:35:26.440take it to court they get the man acquitted which i think is the only outcome you're going to get in
01:35:30.320a D.C. jury. And then the D.O.J. throws up their hands and said, sorry, statute of limitations.
01:35:35.900It's more than five years past. We're not going to be able to go out there and re-prosecute
01:35:41.200this case. So, you know, we think he was the right guy, but our case just wasn't strong
01:35:45.140enough or a D.C. jury or the corrupt court system, whatever they want to go and blame
01:35:48.060it on, they can walk away with it. So maybe that's the the best outcome for D.O.J. is
01:35:52.160that they lose and they blame a D.C. jury. It's a bunch of liberals fault. But at the
01:35:56.660end of the day, I think they've tried to set somebody up who is objectively not the right
01:36:00.220guy and the things that they did are atrocious they've they've had to ignore all the obvious
01:36:05.680evidence up front and uh he said in that clip when we get new information then we can get new
01:36:10.700outputs the new information is we think brian cole jr is walking on the northwest side of the
01:36:15.600capital while you think he's walking on the southeast so now you have new information it'd
01:36:20.160be nice if the fbi rapid response or cash patel's press secretary the guy's name uh what is it ben
01:36:24.780williamson it'd be nice if these people had something to say because it's not going to go
01:36:28.020way people aren't going to just forget about it after two million people saw it yesterday and
01:36:31.800probably another million or so see it today well you're absolutely right and tens of millions of
01:36:37.020people share this live feed right now what is this dan bongino comment he says who's he talking to
01:36:42.340remember when your producer reached out begging me he's always about everyone's begging him
01:36:46.400he's the quarterback he's the high school cool kid and and and and like everyone's who's he
01:36:53.340attacking here i have no idea i mean he that's been his mo he's been reaching out and attacking
01:36:57.580I mean, that's kind of a Bongino thing. He's like New York tough guy online. So he does a lot of this stuff. One of the funny things was, is he pivoted and started talking shit about me about two years ago. And it was over this really bizarre thing that apparently was some sort of a PR op they were trying to do with Trump's legal issues. So there was a question about whether or not you could use deadly force as an FBI agent on the Mar-a-Lago raid. And Dan's a former federal agent. He knows that if you're a federal agent, whether you're Secret Service or DEA or FBI, you can always use deadly force if the policy is met.
01:37:26.100And so he had Julie Kelly march out and say that the FBI was trying to kill Donald Trump under the previous administration.
01:37:32.800I don't think they should have raided Mar-a-Lago.
01:37:34.660I think that was actually really an evil thing they did to our country.
01:37:37.520But the deadly force policy is always a fact.
01:37:42.040What he's done is he's gone from being the biggest attacker of the FBI, where he was calling out their corruption, saying that this was a cover-up.
01:37:49.500for several years he actually stated that he believed the FBI knew exactly who the pipe bomber
01:37:54.300was and that it was the one of the biggest scandals in FBI history and then he gets in there
01:37:58.640and suddenly he's like nope they're red white and blue and I love them and they're all working
01:38:01.680really hard he says it's a false flag when we played the clip earlier because he's got more
01:38:06.080information and now we see the new information they clearly just set up a patsy to cover up a
01:38:10.520false flag that's what all the evidence points said in the public public opinion uh Dan needs
01:38:14.560to know that very very sad to watch him do that here's Tucker Carlson and you know when I told
01:38:18.980you that because i don't tell all people stuff i was bounced stuff off you i forgot i did tell you
01:38:24.600back at the time that i was just talking to tucker i was just you know up at tucker's and he's
01:38:29.780literally having to go and take calls from angino screaming at him and all because he's asking about
01:38:33.940the pipe bomber and asking about all this evidence you know and so so i can confirm i did tell you
01:38:39.340about the story here's tucker talking about it now uh here's the clip he said to me this is
01:38:46.820verbatim he said however bad you think it is here it's 10 times worse this is shocking what's
01:38:52.720happening at the fbi he said that to me on the phone bongino goes in to the fbi with i think the
01:38:58.360best intentions i knew bongino i worked with him at fox i knew him well he goes into the fba calls
01:39:03.680me will you host my show on my first day in the federal government like his first day that he was
01:39:08.740on the air i hosted the show and i called into him and we talked and he was great and he had
01:39:14.000not exactly the same views that I have, but like pretty close. He was, you know, the government's
01:39:18.400corrupt and we're going to drain that swamp. And I think he really meant it. He seemed to mean it.
01:39:23.360I don't know why he claimed that if he didn't mean it. And I think he did mean it. I spoke to him
01:39:27.620a week or two after he started at the FBI. And he said to me, this is verbatim. He said,
01:39:35.860however bad you think it is here, it's 10 times worse. This is shocking what's happening at the
01:39:41.060fbi he said that to me on the phone and i thought well thank god that he's there you know um and
01:39:47.560then i didn't talk to him that much and then last late last summer i got um someone who i knew
01:39:53.900approached me with thomas crooks's youtube account amazing amazing story fell right into my lap and
01:40:02.420it turns out that thomas crooks who they told us had no social media profile did and so anyway the
01:40:07.300first person i called was dan bongino and i said because i knew him he's the number two guy at the
01:40:11.720fbi he's my friend and i say oh my gosh the last guy chris ray told us that this this person the
01:40:18.720guy who shot trump in the ear at butler had no social media profile which seemed absurd and it
01:40:23.080was absurd it was a lie and i have it great so i call him i call cash patel i call the agent in
01:40:30.800charge of the butler investigation i tell him all this and they're all hostile to me so i sent him
01:40:35.000some of the stuff. They confirmed it was real. And then they attacked me. They set up an entire
01:40:40.220website attacking me. And I made a documentary about it, but they attacked me. It's like,
01:40:45.680wait a second. I thought we were on the same site. Why in the world are you covering up
01:40:49.900for the Thomas Crooks shooting? Like what, you have all this information. Why don't you release
01:40:54.260it? You say it's a lone gunman and he's dead. So what could possibly be the justification for
01:41:00.120holding any information related to Thomas Crooks? And they never answered the question.
01:41:03.760and instead they attacked me and then bongino called me and attacked me on the phone like five
01:41:07.300times you should read what he sent me i mean so i'm attacking my family my my deceased father i
01:41:12.740mean it's like crazy stuff so those are the facts it's a fair yeah and i want to be clear because
01:41:18.640so much happens so much goes on i can't remember half of it straight unless i go back to the time
01:41:22.440and read read text i sent but i mean i'm tucker on multiple things i'm like hey what about crooks
01:41:29.380what about the pipe bomb what about j6 and it was multiple discussions on the phone and also in
01:41:33.940person he's like no it's they're all freaked out total 360 you know he calls up and yells at me
01:41:39.300all the time i mean i was just in there talking to him earlier he goes it's crazy and and so i
01:41:44.940was just telling you know seraph off record hey he says like there's a total bad stuff about to
01:41:48.360happen so that's just in general but i also later learned that bongino when he was deputy director
01:41:52.800did it to all sorts of other talk show hosts not as big as tucker
01:41:56.060would call up and harangue and yell at them and uh especially they interviewed people like you
01:42:03.900and so he was a very busy beaver running around trying to police everybody go ahead
01:42:08.700yeah no i mean i we have some of the same context and we have some different ones and i know people
01:42:13.380have told me that they would get these phone calls where he would just uh scream at them
01:42:17.680and then 15 minutes later would get a text message saying you know good talk or something like that
01:42:22.580And so Tucker's comment about being emotionally incontinent is actually, I've never heard that
01:42:26.980term before, but I like it a lot. Somebody who just is so at wit's end, they're just operating
01:42:32.160on a survival mechanism. And I don't know what happened to Dan Bongino. And I never saw something
01:42:35.660that would scare the crap out of me at the FBI that way. I did see that press conference and
01:42:39.560it looked like what evil people do, where you go out and you cheer on locking up a patsy who
01:42:44.960couldn't be the person that you yourself had said it could be. Daniel Bongino, Kash Patel went for
01:42:50.520literally years talking about who and what the pipe bomber was dan spent hours on his show
01:42:55.560discussing it he talked about the works of darren beattie who's now in the government
01:42:58.720talked about julie kelly looking into it she's also shouldn't agree with the story
01:43:02.900that talked about the work of steve baker previously very very flatteringly uh also
01:43:07.780brought up people who else mike benz you know and so if you're going out there and you're citing
01:43:12.300all these other people who have looked into the same thing and said the government obviously
01:43:14.880released garbage footage, doctored the frame rates, you know, redacted the eyes and the face
01:43:20.880in any of the clear spots where we might be able to see who it was. Theoretically, the FBI was
01:43:25.140trying to find out who the pipe bomber was while hiding the identity of the pipe bomber by giving
01:43:29.100you garbage footage instead of better footage and occasionally gave you, you know, zoomed out
01:43:33.600versions where you could see them walk. And every time you see it, you're like, well, that's not
01:43:36.700Brian Cole. That person had to be connected to the government. Again, we'll kind of just do a
01:43:40.660little like retouching of some of the bases but the capitol police uh were called to the scene of
01:43:46.100the first bomb that was discovered it was actually the second bomb sorry they were called to the rnc
01:43:51.440which is the first bomb that was discovered the second bomb that was placed all right and that
01:43:54.860was just before the capitol was breached about 20 minutes before they sent out a bomb squad they
01:43:59.120you know cordoned off the area and then they dispatched their counter surveillance agents
01:44:03.300to go out there and take a look and see hey are there any other devices the problem is is the
01:44:07.820agents that found bomb number two, which was the first one planted over by the DNC, they were
01:44:12.560already in motion before the radio call went out to go look for bombs. So they were already moving
01:44:17.540in the right direction. And then they got out of their car and they found the second bomb in 11
01:44:21.680minutes and 28 seconds. From the time that they got out of their car, it took them less than 12
01:44:26.100minutes to find the second bomb. And then they never looked for another bomb again. And Tom
01:44:29.960Massey has called this out and said, what would cause someone to do that? Tom Massey interviewed
01:44:33.160those agents. And it turns out, and Alex, this is like one of those detailed things that's so crazy.
01:44:37.820The bomb squad commander from the first scene from the ATF at the RNC pipe bomb scene left the job at the ATF and became the supervisor of the counter surveillance unit for the for the Capitol Police and sat in the room with Tom Massey as he was trying to interview the two agents who found the bomb and ran interference and did not let them be questioned as their supervisor.
01:45:20.000The ones who found the bombs went up and told the two on duty people there, there was a secret service agent and there was a Metro police officer in a car in a suburban, which was part of Kamala Harris's motorcade.
01:45:29.400And they went over and said, hey, you know, there's a pipe bomb over there and we don't
01:45:32.140know what else was said, but it must have been something like it's a training device
01:45:34.920and don't worry about it because those guys finished their sandwich.
01:45:37.460Then they never set out a minimum safe distance.
01:45:50.740The thing that they told us when we were being briefed one week after January 6th at the
01:45:55.600the Joint Terrorism Task Force sent out briefers to tell us because we were doing surveillance on
01:46:00.100the case. And they said, yeah, they look very bomb like. So we've always known there had to
01:46:04.720be some government component to it. By the way, one of those agents who helped find the bomb,
01:46:08.740the counter surveillance guys, was promoted into a position where he is now the liaison between the
01:46:15.120FBI and Capitol Police. So when we talk about kind of the three forks of the case, one of them
01:46:19.800is the broader conspiracy, which Daniel Bongino used to acknowledge was real. The other is if
01:46:23.940brian cole jr did it and if he's innocent and i think he's innocent and then the other one is who
01:46:27.700actually planted those bombs and all three of those things all have elements that prove to me
01:46:32.500that the government had to have been involved and by the way cash patel and bongino who are now part
01:46:36.880of the government or formerly part of the government they all used to say the same thing
01:46:39.660there's there's hours and hours of footage of this i put together a compilation it's wild they said
01:46:44.480it was the biggest scandal of our lifetimes they said it's the craziest thing that you know the
01:46:48.580Let me ask you this to speculate. Why would Trump run on exposing all this? Pennsylvania, D.C., and then suddenly do a 180. We now know it was directives from Trump. What is that? Him making a deal with the deep state or what?