The Alex Jones Show Live - Mother Shana Gaviola Tries To Stop Her Teenage Son From Transitioning Without Her Consent!

00:00:00.000 My son, as along with a lot of other children, when they are, you know, 13, 14, they're extremely confused.

00:00:08.480 They don't know, you know, a lot of who they are or, you know, where they stand in society.

00:00:15.200 And unfortunately, the moment that your child, especially in the state of California, says that they think that they're gay or that they think that they're trans,

00:00:25.780 um that moment moving forward the school system activates this uh trans ideology this um this

00:00:37.080 woman or man comes in but all the ones that i've seen so far these transitional counselors that

00:00:43.400 they bring in are women um they bring in these are you talking about in the school in the school

00:00:48.960 Yes. Yeah. Without your knowledge. Yeah. Not licensed psychologist, not licensed psychologist, just pretty much similar to when you have CPS workers, you know, they there's no reason that they should be dealing with adolescence, you know, confusion.

00:01:08.920 They just shouldn't. And that should be the parent's job. But the moment that that happens and the moment that they're brought in and the child says, hey, my mom's not OK with me transitioning, they block the parents completely out.

00:01:21.780 One of these ladies took him down to the Fresno Superior Court and talked him into signing, you know, a petition for emancipation and a restraining order against me.

00:01:36.180 And, you know, there had been no police reports.

00:01:39.060 There had been no violence.

00:01:40.540 There has been no accusations of abuse.

00:01:43.020 There has been no CBS cases.

00:01:45.260 I'm a single mom raising four kids on my own.

00:01:48.240 I've never been in trouble.

00:01:49.300 I have no criminal record.

00:01:50.360 And he was successful in doing this just based on my religion and my stance in transitioning him. 0.64

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00:02:15.740 This is Stuart Rhodes filling in for the final hour of the Alex Jones Show.

00:02:19.500 calling right here from the bunker in austin texas it's an honor to be here um so for those

00:02:25.840 who don't know me i'm the founder of oath keepers former j6 political prisoner uh yale law graduate

00:02:32.100 please don't hold that against me i'm a recovering lawyer and i've recently had all my rights

00:02:36.840 restored but doj thankfully filed a motion to dismiss our charges that was finally granted

00:02:42.820 and our sentences were vacated as well and so i'm back restored to my rights but i went through

00:02:48.180 three years of hell in the prison system but now i'm bringing on uh another persecuted american

00:02:55.140 who's being persecuted for standing up against transgender activism an attempt to transition

00:03:03.380 her teenage son from the age of 15 on you had radical leftist trans activists in california

00:03:09.960 trying to transition her child and she simply acted as a mother to defend her child and try to

00:03:17.620 save him from being transitioned so i want to bring in this awesome patriot shana gaviola

00:03:23.900 please please join us today hi shana how are you doing how are you doing all right i want the

00:03:29.140 audience to know that shana is scheduled to be uh to begin a prison sentence on monday in federal

00:03:34.860 prison this is what's so disturbing and disgusting is that even under the trump administration

00:03:42.620 My daughter to Trump knows the lawfare against Christians, against conservatives, continues.

00:03:49.980 So, Sheena, please tell the audience real quickly your story of what happened to your son and yourself.

00:03:55.420 I'll try to do my best.

00:03:56.640 My story is a little bit long, but I'm going to do the best that I can to kind of make it brief.

00:04:03.140 My son, along with a lot of other children, when they are 13, 14, they're extremely confused.

00:04:11.200 They don't know, you know, a lot of who they are or, you know, where they stand in society.

00:04:18.520 And unfortunately, the moment that your child, especially in the state of California, says that they think that they're gay or that they think that they're trans, that moment moving forward, the school system activates this trans ideology, this woman or man comes in.

00:04:42.480 But all the ones that I've seen so far, these transitional counselors that they bring in are women.

00:04:48.440 They bring in these not licensed.

00:04:49.780 Are you talking about in the school, right? 0.99

00:04:52.440 Yes, yeah.

00:04:53.460 Without your knowledge.

00:04:55.660 Yeah, not licensed psychologists, not licensed psychologists.

00:04:59.680 Just pretty much similar to when you have CPS workers, you know.

00:05:06.160 There's no reason that they should be dealing with adolescence, you know, confusion.

00:05:12.480 they just shouldn't. And that should be the parent's job. But the moment that that happens

00:05:16.800 and the moment that they're brought in and the child says, Hey, my mom's not okay with me

00:05:22.260 transitioning. They block the parents completely out. Um, now you're no longer in charge of your

00:05:28.560 child. You're no longer alerted when they, um, have behavioral issues at school. Um, they don't

00:05:34.300 contact you for information or situations that you absolutely, as a parent should be contacted

00:05:40.020 for so uh isn't it true that they isn't it true that they also begin to schedule a child for

00:05:47.460 hormone blocking and eventually sex change operations all without your permission

00:05:53.980 yes absolutely and what was astonishing to me was my son when he came in to have a sit down with us

00:06:01.640 uh he was you know 13 or 14 years old i can't remember exactly but he's like um i want everyone

00:06:08.240 to call me Brianna in the house. And I'm like, absolutely not. We're not doing that. My youngest

00:06:14.160 daughter, she was four at the time. Not that that makes it any better or worse, but you can kind of

00:06:21.100 understand what I was dealing with, with how hard pressed I was to not do that. That's not

00:06:27.400 acceptable. We're not playing that game and we're not doing that in this house. And he told me

00:06:33.660 directly to my face that the counselor at school told him that when he turned 16 he could go have

00:06:39.980 the transitional surgery behind my back that they didn't have to alert me and that they would

00:06:45.460 actually lie to me while he was in surgery at a hospital and tell me that he was in class at school

00:06:52.460 now you can imagine a 13 or 14 year old child doesn't know those things on their own they don't

00:07:00.460 they're not privy to that information so it was absolutely an adult so he was telling him this

00:07:06.120 he was being coached and groomed correct yes so fast forward same woman so what happened with

00:07:13.240 so just fast forward to as a mother you finally took steps to try to protect your son now he

00:07:19.140 secured i guess once again being coached to do this he secured a protective order against you

00:07:24.260 right? Yes. One of these ladies took him down to the Fresno Superior Court and talked him into

00:07:34.060 signing a petition for emancipation and a restraining order against me. And there had

00:07:42.340 been no police reports. There had been no violence. There has been no accusations of abuse. There's

00:07:48.200 been no cbs cases um i'm a single mom raising four kids on my own um i've never been in trouble

00:07:54.280 i have no criminal record and uh he was successful in doing this just based on my

00:07:59.900 um religion and my stance in transition in transitioning him so in other words the judge

00:08:07.940 granted i guess a temporary protective order on the basis only of him desiring desiring to

00:08:14.180 transition and you opposing it as a christian and that the judge granted the order based on

00:08:19.680 and of course it's ex parte right you were not notified it was an ex parte i was not allowed to

00:08:24.920 be there did you know about it never legally served did you even know what's happening

00:08:29.520 i did not know that was happening absolutely not he was supposed to be on his way home

00:08:34.880 um he was messaging hey mom i'm going to be at my friend's house we're making cake pops for a

00:08:39.780 minute, and then I'll be home in an hour. And then he never showed back up. That was the very

00:08:45.000 last time I ever spoke with my son. And that was in 2021. And so then what happened? You took,

00:08:51.180 you tried to take action as a mother. So then I was told by Clovis Police Department that there

00:08:57.140 was a restraining order. They would not serve me the legal documents. They said they didn't have

00:09:03.060 them. And then, you know, the same officer that I was told that by told me that Blake had come in,

00:09:10.720 my son had come in and told him that he was gay and that he was afraid for his life and that I

00:09:17.080 didn't believe in his transgender and that he thinks that I was going to hurt him. And so they

00:09:22.440 assigned this officer to my son who was also gay. He's a gay officer. And this was the person who 0.99

00:09:28.940 let me know that there was a restraining order against me um i contacted a family law attorney 0.97

00:09:33.860 thinking okay now i have to go fight this case family law attorney um miss browns looked up the

00:09:40.460 case and said nope it's pending judge's orders judge has not signed anything there is not a

00:09:45.000 um uh restraining order on file and you know what do you want to do what are your next steps

00:09:51.300 because you know a small part of this that we you know have left out until right now was

00:09:55.920 my son had just been arrested for molesting a seven-year-old. So I could not have him back in

00:10:01.400 my home, which was why he was out of the home to begin with. Where was he living while this

00:10:06.040 happened, while it's alleged assault? So I was trust, yeah, I trusted this woman

00:10:11.160 that he had introduced me to. He had introduced me to her as his girlfriend's mom that he met

00:10:17.240 at church. And she infiltrated my home, was super kind, super sweet, very helpful. Again,

00:10:25.460 I'm a single mom navigating a very difficult situation and she after calling his dad his

00:10:31.820 grandmother pretty much all my resources to try to find placement for him because it wasn't safe

00:10:38.360 for him to be around my other children and it's an extreme molestation case so you know I'm not

00:10:45.660 going to get on you know into that but my youngest son watched one of these you know one of this

00:10:52.080 events happen this is in the home hold on a second this is in the home of lady who came to

00:10:57.820 your home and and befriended you she said i've got a place for him to stay or what happened

00:11:02.560 yeah so she said you know we've got an extra room he can stay the nights with us because that was

00:11:09.980 what we were most concerned about was he was sharing a room with his younger brother so um

00:11:17.060 you know that was no longer appropriate and she came off as like i said loving kind wonderful

00:11:23.760 um the entire time she was socially transitioning and behind my back um and then i came to find out

00:11:31.140 she was allowing him to be um ice skating instructor for young children knowing what

00:11:36.380 he was just charged with um and then it got worse so she was also part of um convincing him to

00:11:43.880 transition correct okay so multiple people were grooming your son for to be transitioned yes it

00:11:50.160 was two two women two women gotcha um can you talk about the alleged assault your son did on

00:11:57.680 a seven-year-old where was that at so my best friend uh lived next door to me and both of our

00:12:05.380 sons were seven years old seven's very small as you know um and i was pretty much the only house

00:12:11.860 that she would allow her kids to come over to.

00:12:14.440 My son was 15, and so he was...

00:12:17.260 I was at work, and he was at home,

00:12:19.720 and he multiple times forced the seven-year-old 1.00

00:12:25.160 to perform oral sex on him. 0.99

00:12:27.780 One time, forcing my seven-year-old son, 1.00

00:12:32.080 who biologically is his brother, into watching him.

00:12:35.600 Do you think he was groomed and taught that that was okay

00:12:39.040 by these same people?

00:12:41.860 I think very much after the fact, after it came to light. Absolutely. I know for a fact that they've said to me that this is normal childhood behavior and that I should have got him a lawyer and should never have let him talk to the police.

00:12:56.920 um i absolutely disagree i feel like as a mom my job is to protect my son but at that moment my

00:13:05.740 job was to protect other people's kids um from my son and the kind of parent that hides that that

00:13:13.040 makes excuses for that um are awful parents and so for me i feel like i was doing the right thing

00:13:20.640 and now he hates me because of what because of my actions with that so tell us what you did then

00:13:28.540 got you in trouble with the uh with the feds so i was yeah talking to the attorney trying to go over

00:13:35.220 my options called a couple of friends of mine um a few in law enforcement um and they were like you

00:13:41.760 know why don't you try to look at some of these programs they have a lot of programs for boys

00:13:45.540 i found seven that kind of fit um christian morals background now my son was extremely involved in

00:13:54.460 church his whole life so just these last three years of his life had he not been involved in

00:14:00.280 church um he sang in the choir uh he was very involved so a christian background um and then

00:14:07.760 him you know wanting to get him closer to god and hoping that once he goes into this facility

00:14:13.480 he will see just how worked, um, his mentality, his thinking was because of these adults that

00:14:20.480 have infiltrated his mind. Um, I found seven schools. They were all really great. Um, two

00:14:27.940 stuck out to me because they had therapeutic programs. Um, one was the first one that I

00:14:33.020 enrolled him into his dad agreed and, um, gave my attorney consent. I signed over, um, you know,

00:14:41.060 like a power of attorney parental rights to the school uh his dad then called me and said hey i'm

00:14:46.640 not going to be able to financially help you at all so that school was way more expensive than

00:14:51.840 the second option um which the section option was just as good um it's just i was able to get a

00:14:57.980 grant for that one um through that program uh he also would only be around all of the programs would

00:15:04.700 only be around uh children who are 15 to 18 years old so no small children um you know takes a lot

00:15:12.900 of that risk out of out of that and i signed over my rights uh to the school and the transport team

00:15:20.420 who consisted of two off-duty sheriff's deputies one that graduated from the school himself

00:15:26.740 um were came to pick up blake um now my son was and and is uh six three about 210 pounds

00:15:36.600 had already been arrested before and had already been charged with um lewd and lavicious acts

00:15:43.600 to a minor so to someone under the age of 14 so this is not a child that um the mainstream media

00:15:51.680 is portraying as some, you know, innocent child who was just yanked up and thrown in handcuffs

00:15:59.040 and drove across state lines. And I will tell you that he was supposed to be flown. So, you know,

00:16:06.580 there was a little bit of a discretion there from the transportation team. He was not supposed to

00:16:11.880 be driven. I paid for flights and he was supposed to be flown. I did not believe that he was going

00:16:18.960 to be handcuffed because they said they only use that in like extreme matters where he was

00:16:23.140 you know arguing or fighting or any of those things and none of that happened he um went very

00:16:28.400 like peacefully was told what was going on i had a good friend of mine who he also knew um that's

00:16:34.840 private investigator go with them um including a retired sheriff's deputy here in town um to also

00:16:43.640 help with that um extraction to get him into the transportation team so at all times he was safe

00:16:50.000 i made someone made sure somebody was there that he knew so that he wasn't scared um and then 1.00

00:16:55.640 completely fine for the entire transport um this awful woman who had brainwashed him and groomed

00:17:03.780 him made a police report and this is solidly on a police report that i had masked gunmen pick him

00:17:10.860 up that were tied to the mafia that i had cartel connections and that i was going to have him

00:17:16.700 killed um those were the things on an actual police report we were not allowed to bring that

00:17:23.460 into the trial but we'll get to that in a moment right so so long story short after you did this

00:17:30.260 you were charged with a federal crime of violating of across state lines violating a protective order

00:17:37.720 right correct and that was done that was initiated in 2021 under the biden administration correct

00:17:44.560 okay but the sad thing is is that it carried on and continued in fact your trial was in december

00:17:50.000 of 2025 right under the new trump administration so we're getting a break coming up here but

00:17:57.220 i want to so i want folks to understand um what happened to you when you were arrested

00:18:03.800 and charged and let's talk about the prosecutors whatever you want to say about that we got two

00:18:08.540 minutes left before the break okay so when i was arrested and charged um i was put in jail for eight

00:18:15.060 days i was supposed to just turn myself in but they actually requested that i stay in until my

00:18:19.820 trial by the grace of god i had a judge that let me out i was on house arrest for six months

00:18:25.440 i was on pre-trial for four and a half years which is like the strongest amount of of probation you

00:18:31.740 and be on a parole um i was drug tested for two years and even though there was no drugs i have

00:18:38.080 no criminal record whatsoever um also uh while i was at a um it was like an after hours like uh

00:18:46.540 10 o'clock 10 p.m it's like kind of a bougier um hors d'oeuvre uh drinks location so a fern bar

00:18:54.920 basically right a what a fern bar right yeah yeah you can say that um the federal prosecutor

00:19:04.600 michael tierney came in um and was smiling at me from across the bar uh ended up um you know

00:19:12.820 talking to me introducing himself to me um i knew who he was and i told him who i was almost

00:19:17.680 immediately um and then he kind of you know realized who i was and at that moment should

00:19:22.880 walked away um instead he continued to hit on me telling me we can talk about things that aren't

00:19:28.640 related to the trial we could get together after this was all done that he was going to ask for

00:19:33.900 the minimal amount um if i was convicted um this shook me obviously so i'm sitting there i i go to

00:19:42.120 the bathroom in about 10 minutes i come out and he's standing outside waiting for me in the

00:19:46.560 bathroom um with the special agent of the fbi who raided my home on his cell phone his personal

00:19:52.720 cell phone he shoves it in my face um he says hey you know yeah she's really right here so i get on

00:19:59.380 the phone and um it's agent crow and she's like this is crazy you know like i can't believe that

00:20:05.080 that this is going on and i'm like yeah and they're flirting back and forth um you know just

00:20:10.840 kind of saying i can't remember everything that was said um with their flirting kind of back and

00:20:15.380 forth very flirty and he was flirting with me and um you know talking about you know that she's a

00:20:22.040 FBI agent and just kind of going back and forth. And then I get off that phone call and go to sit

00:20:28.960 down at a bar and sit there and wait because now I'm leaving and I'm going to call an Uber and I

00:20:35.520 go to walk outside and he's outside and he's got my current attorney, not my current now,

00:20:41.700 but my previous attorney on the phone and he puts him on the phone with me.

00:20:45.620 Let's continue after the break. We've got to take a break right now and be right back.

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00:23:11.480 show welcome back to the alex jones show this is stewart rhodes going in for the final hour

00:23:19.260 i have the honor of interviewing an awesome patriot who stuck to her guns and went to trial

00:23:25.340 much like i did myself my co-defendants who refused to take you know take the i'm sure you

00:23:31.200 were offered a plea bargain tell us about that shanna did they offer you a deal and you refused

00:23:35.560 to do that yes so at the beginning when all this happened i believe that they were just targeting

00:23:40.640 the school um there was no federal charges there was no federal um involvement until the school

00:23:47.700 uh until i got to the school and then i realized that they were um trying to shut the school down

00:23:52.700 for the last couple years because it was a christian board you mean the christian school

00:23:55.540 you were trying to take your son to in missouri correct okay gotcha so it was under investigation

00:23:59.980 by the fbi ah so the feds that already targeted this christian school were trying to shut it down

00:24:06.640 And so when they saw an opportunity to get you, they tried to coerce you in the testifying against the school?

00:24:13.640 Yeah, they told me that if I just testified to Julio Sandoval, you know, basically knowing that there was a restraining order, actively violating it and, you know, forcing or coercing me into allowing him to kidnap my son in this big scheme that he had done.

00:24:36.640 They ultimately wanted him and the school shut down and him in prison.

00:24:42.400 He's the dean of the school.

00:24:43.340 He is a great guy.

00:24:44.780 He's the dean of the school.

00:24:46.560 He was the deans of admission at the boarding school.

00:24:49.500 He's a retired Marine.

00:24:51.320 He's a father of, I believe, six.

00:24:53.600 He spends his entire life with these boys that are troubled and need guidance.

00:24:59.300 But I decided not to do that.

00:25:00.620 There is no way I have to I have to sleep at night.

00:25:04.080 Same reason that I decided not to not do anything about my son.

00:25:08.700 I'm the one that has to, you know, deal with me and my decisions.

00:25:13.500 So, and I stick by that.

00:25:15.420 I don't feel like what the decision that I made was wrong.

00:25:18.340 I do feel like there's a lot of people in my life that probably wish that I did make that decision.

00:25:24.180 And I'm, you know, and I understand that too.

00:25:27.380 But as a Christian, you refuse to bear false witness.

00:25:31.020 That's a sin, right?

00:25:32.120 Absolutely.

00:25:32.560 yeah especially towards this man who spent his entire life helping these boys so they wanted

00:25:38.540 you to help put an innocent man in prison for for doing good work doing god's work which they hate

00:25:44.800 because they want to stop him from stopping them that's the bottom line and you refuse to do that

00:25:50.460 if you take the deal and you went to trial this is just like j6 it's so weird to experience this

00:25:56.040 all over again so you refused to do that refused to kiss the ring and bend the knee you went to

00:26:01.680 trial and tell us what that was like you went to trial in december of 2025 under the new trump

00:26:07.000 administration did you hope as a as a political prisoner to be did you hope that the new

00:26:13.220 administration would dismiss these charges oh i was so hopeful um i you know and i still am i still

00:26:21.300 am it's just it's been a long time it feels like it's been a long time um i was able to successfully

00:26:27.060 removed the prosecutor there was a judge um we had a court hearing he was removed for prosecutorial

00:26:33.340 misconduct she called his we're trying to arrange a threesome with you and the fbi agent right

00:26:37.780 correct and we have personal text messages between them so those were discovered as well 0.73

00:26:43.500 him saying that i looked good that night um that you know oh maybe she likes girls she seems to

00:26:50.100 like you too uh we can get together with her after this and the fbi agent was and the fbi agent was

00:26:56.500 down for that right she was also oh yeah right yeah and they're both married and at the end of

00:27:01.840 it he said we'll have to commiserate up with lots and lots of alcohol and tell and he put in both

00:27:06.880 their husband and wife's name that it's going to be a long night of commiseration wow um yeah we

00:27:13.240 had a court date where they both had to get up the state on the stand and explain these text messages

00:27:17.680 um and you know the judge still still but you did a motion to dismiss the case right the charges

00:27:24.900 the indictment and what happened the judge did not grant that this was judge thurston unfortunately

00:27:30.400 this is a very left-leaning activist judge who refused the pardon for ben martin um from trump

00:27:37.860 so she had already to stand on where yeah on where she stands she did call his actions

00:27:43.980 incomprehensible and moved my um case from the eastern district to the northern district

00:27:50.540 And a judge came in and overruled that and brought in a activist judge who was retired, who just blocked Trump's Birthright Act, and also went on a 60-minute show talking about how much he hates MAGA, brought him in, and with him came seven orders in lemony.

00:28:11.920 so those are gag orders you know for anybody like myself that didn't understand what those were

00:28:16.380 I could not talk about the child molestation I could not bring in his sexual orientation

00:28:21.220 I could not talk about any of those things I couldn't talk about the prosecutorial misconduct

00:28:27.140 I could not bring in the I could not dispute the validity of the restraining order or say the fact

00:28:34.320 that I was not personally served they told the jury all that they needed to know was that I knew

00:28:39.140 about it and i did not have to legally be served so they didn't they didn't let you talk about the

00:28:43.700 grooming of your son either to commit you know assault on a minor or the grooming to become

00:28:50.700 trans they didn't talk to you and you were not let me ask you this did they also gag you from

00:28:55.720 being able to talk about the deal they offered you if you were to um bear false witness against

00:29:01.060 the dean of the school were you also yeah well that was something that was told to me by my first

00:29:06.760 attorney so they didn't offer it in like a in so much of a you know provable legal documentation

00:29:15.880 it was through your attorney so even even when i did say that the judge um you know even when we

00:29:21.900 tried to bring that in the judge would not allow my attorney to speak at all if you looked at the

00:29:26.120 transcripts you would be um blown away well not you you wouldn't be blown away i wouldn't be

00:29:31.600 You've sat in there and you've been railroaded before and been gagged and been unable to speak or defend yourself.

00:29:39.040 But, you know, as a normal person, just like you, you don't believe that that's real.

00:29:44.500 You don't believe that that can happen.

00:29:46.180 Right. Until it happens to you.

00:29:48.440 Yeah, you watch all these trials and people are talking about the way they feel or the things they think or how that, you know.

00:29:54.280 And these are provable documentation, documented incidents that I wasn't allowed to bring into my own trial.

00:30:00.020 Right. So you were not allowed to tell the jury anything, really, other than what? What were you allowed to use to defend yourself?

00:30:08.220 I chose not to speak because the judge said, if you violate any of these orders in limine, I will hold you in contempt, throw you in jail, and we'll just get a new jury in here. And we can keep doing that as long as you'd like.

00:30:22.060 That's what he said?

00:30:23.480 Yes.

00:30:24.040 Okay. So your judge, so your lawyer advised you not to take the stand?

00:30:27.280 we talked you know in depth about it this is an emotional case right um i as you see i'm not a

00:30:34.780 very quiet person so um you know when you're being attacked by a prosecutor who now you know

00:30:42.260 they brought in um his friend and colleague and and a trans woman prosecutor to prosecute me so 0.61

00:30:49.340 you were you're being prosecuted by a transsexual yes okay a former man now a woman or what yes 0.99

00:30:57.260 wow okay yeah so when they brought this heinous very evil we'll go with woman we'll we'll say 1.00

00:31:07.260 that if that's what we need to do it's a man no it's a man this man's in a shim yeah yeah

00:31:13.200 and when they brought i mean evil isn't even the beginning of how uh this person treated me um

00:31:21.140 when they came up with a guilty verdict she turned around looked directly into my daughter's face and 0.73

00:31:26.120 smiled um and just the most evil smile you've ever seen um she was malicious and he was malicious

00:31:34.500 and so i decided not to even get on the stand um because i knew myself i knew i couldn't not

00:31:42.640 defend myself and then you would have been found in contempt of court absolutely do you do you

00:31:48.320 regret that now do you wish that in hindsight you had taken the stand so you could look the jury in

00:31:52.960 the eye and tell them what you think what do you think it's hard it's hard it's hard to to know i

00:32:00.720 think that i could have done that i think that the judge very like i think there was probably a 90

00:32:05.620 chance that he would have held me into a contempt put me in jail and got a new jury in right and we

00:32:11.920 you know so you were yeah so you were going to be found guilty no matter what

00:32:16.000 in this show trial just like us j6ers and this is something the audience needs to understand

00:32:22.580 that across the country, this is how it's done to thousands of Americans every year.

00:32:28.480 Prosecutors do the exact same thing.

00:32:31.000 And you need to understand that this was done to this patriot

00:32:33.880 during the Trump administration, December of 2025,

00:32:37.760 after President Trump was in office under Attorney General Pam Bondi.

00:32:41.520 So you have to wonder, why is it that this prosecution was not stopped?

00:32:46.200 Pam Bondi, with a stroke of a pen, could have dismissed this charge against you

00:32:50.160 and set you free from going through the shift.

00:32:52.340 Well, she made a memorandum and my attorney filed it and the judge laughed at it and said, and basically just denied because she made a memorandum that said we're no longer going to prosecute parental rights cases.

00:33:05.420 So Pam Bondi did write a memorandum that said what?

00:33:09.380 That we are no longer prosecuting parental rights cases or religious freedom cases.

00:33:14.020 And all these cases need to be dropped immediately and dismissed.

00:33:18.220 And the judge laughed.

00:33:19.600 the new ag in california um eric grant that was a interim ag uh came when he was in there we were

00:33:28.340 fighting to get the molestation out he sat in my in the courtroom and when the judge said we're not

00:33:35.580 going to talk about them you know you're not going to be able to bring that in he laughed in one of

00:33:39.700 the most condescending ways like just out loud um and in you know just sitting there inside the

00:33:47.180 courtroom um you know basically at us so pam bondy make it clear on this so pam bondy did file a 0.60

00:33:55.560 memorandum that i guess she distributed out to the all the u.s attorneys across the country that

00:34:00.900 we're no longer going to prosecute these cases and what they do with that they just threw the

00:34:04.800 round file nothing right these are the same players so they haven't been removed and they

00:34:09.740 don't care about this current administrations they don't care about the president's orders

00:34:14.260 they openly defy his orders his pardons um the ag's orders they don't they don't um

00:34:23.380 obviously they don't report to him they don't feel like like yeah this administration is above them

00:34:30.020 and and so why and why should they fear him because they're not being fired pam bondy after

00:34:34.420 sending that memorandum out i'm sure she's got plenty of good press for that on fox news

00:34:39.040 oh i sent a memorandum out to make sure that they know it's not going to happen anymore

00:34:42.800 and all of the MAGA faithful were like, oh, great.

00:34:46.320 So the lawfare is going to stop.

00:34:48.560 But behind the scenes, it continued.

00:34:50.880 I didn't find out about your case until yesterday.

00:34:53.960 So I didn't even know about this.

00:34:56.460 So this is the problem we have in this country is that we don't learn about these cases until like the 11th hour.

00:35:03.560 Here you are about to be turned in to go to prison on Monday.

00:35:07.320 So what do we want the audience to do?

00:35:11.000 We need to burn up the phone lines of the White House and also the Pardon Attorney's Office.

00:35:16.900 So what do you want them to give them their action items?

00:35:19.080 My pardon is in.

00:35:20.540 Yeah, my pardon is in.

00:35:22.260 Your pardon application is in, you mean?

00:35:24.760 Yes, the application is in.

00:35:26.740 Sorry.

00:35:27.660 No problem.

00:35:27.880 We need letters to go into the pardon department at the White House.

00:35:32.460 We need phone calls coming in.

00:35:35.080 And, you know, if anybody can, you know, re-tag some of the posts.

00:35:39.340 I've been on the Emerald Robinson show.

00:35:42.760 I've been on, you know, Real American's Voice with Trennis Evans.

00:35:47.260 I've been on...

00:35:48.300 And Trennis has been helping you, right?

00:35:49.980 Condemned USA?

00:35:50.800 Yes.

00:35:51.220 Okay, that's how I found out about your case.

00:35:52.900 Trennis Evans has been one of my biggest advocates.

00:35:56.280 I would not, I would be in a very different situation if it was not for him.

00:36:00.940 We're good to go.

00:36:01.440 George Pallas and Dylan Barkat have been amazing attorneys that have just fought, like, endlessly for me.

00:36:09.340 for very very little money at all well good well praise god for that so let's give the folks their

00:36:16.400 action items you've got a letter here a model letter to the u.s to mr president actually um

00:36:22.720 office of the pardon attorney but it's addressed to president trump so do you have a is there a

00:36:29.340 place where folks can go and see this letter and use that or do you just want them to write their

00:36:33.400 own letter um yeah there you can go on to aaron friday's x account um and you can also i believe

00:36:42.300 that you can just send it directly to the pardon office but i i think that if you want that specific

00:36:47.980 um one maybe we can put on um aaron friday's email and then they can send it to her

00:36:53.580 or i can just say it out loud uh go ahead whatever you want to tell them go ahead okay

00:36:59.080 Okay. So it is going to be, sorry, just kidding this, erin.friday at yahoo.com.

00:37:12.460 And you can request.

00:37:14.540 Erin is spelled how?

00:37:16.640 E-R-I-N.

00:37:19.420 Okay.

00:37:20.840 .friday at yahoo.com.

00:37:24.400 Okay.

00:37:24.680 And you can email requesting that template because she already has it set up.

00:37:29.960 Or you can write your own and you can send it in to the Department of Justice.

00:37:34.180 Let's give them the U.S. Parton Attorney's email.

00:37:39.320 So it's uspardon.attorney at usdoj.gov.

00:37:45.380 Maybe the team can put it back up on the screen.

00:37:48.460 uspardon.attorney at usdoj.gov.

00:37:53.180 and then you've got a phone number four there we go so you can call the doj at that number on the

00:38:00.360 screen 202-616-6070 you can also call the white house direct line to the white house 202-456-1111

00:38:09.900 and then the comment line 202-456-1414 why not do it all and then write the u.s pardon

00:38:17.960 uspardon.attorney at usdoj.gov and just say pardon this patriot this lawfare needs to stop

00:38:28.240 this is biden lawfare why is it going on and continuing uh innocent mother who's just trying

00:38:34.320 to be a good mother is going to prison for nothing for being a good mother um on monday

00:38:39.380 and you're being sentenced to three years correct i am yes i'm supposed to report on monday i am 0.73

00:38:45.000 sentenced to three years in federal prison um with zero criminal record that's disgusting

00:38:51.300 yeah if i would have taken the deal they offered me probation if i would have taken the second

00:38:57.240 offer that they offered me um when tyranny was still in before he was removed it would have been

00:39:03.500 it would have been at six months i believe i've been probation in six months what was the second

00:39:07.420 But because I had him removed, I was, and then brought in American Rights Alliance, you know, and tried to fight for my parental rights and my religious liberties.

00:39:18.700 They made an example out of me.

00:39:21.040 So if you'd have played ball and helped them put an innocent man in prison to shut down his Christian Academy for Boys, where you said a grown sheriff deputy graduated from there when he was a kid, right?

00:39:34.120 Kept him out of trouble.

00:39:34.840 so if you if you had played ball and helped put an innocent man in prison you would not have done

00:39:39.540 any jail time at all no prison time right no probation only just admit your guilt you know

00:39:44.720 admit your guilt and then help us put another person in prison well hats off to you for being

00:39:50.280 a patriot and uh and a strong christian i appreciate that best best two things we can

00:39:56.020 kind of leave with is my son did not transition good he is 21 years old he goes by his birth given

00:40:02.000 name, identifies as a boy, and also Julio Sandoval is not in prison. He was acquitted and found not

00:40:12.000 guilty. Amen. God bless that. God bless you for being strong. Thank you. What else do you want to

00:40:18.720 tell the audience? I mean, so you went to trial during Trump administration, and I'm sure up to

00:40:24.640 the 11th hour, you're hoping the charges would be dismissed and the trial would stop. It did not

00:40:28.840 stop despite the attorney general's memo going out it's just it's just amazing that you have

00:40:34.560 president trump stating i want this done it doesn't get done then he got the attorney general

00:40:39.240 stating i want this done here's what we're going to do is my policy and they're ignored and yet

00:40:44.420 no one's fired and so you know on the 11th hour of trial during your trial up to the very end

00:40:51.620 you were still hoping that you would hear word that the charges would be dismissed right

00:40:55.920 Absolutely. Absolutely. This entire time, even after being convicted, I'm aware that all they have to do is tell the DOJ to drop my charges and they're dropped. Now, unfortunately, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is refusing to drop two J-6ers' charges. They're refusing.

00:41:23.740 so yeah i'm not gonna doj off the hook the doj right now could still do what they did

00:41:30.140 in my case myself my co-defendants the oath keepers and the proud boys they can move the

00:41:35.440 court of appeals of the ninth circuit to vacate your conviction they can also move to have it

00:41:40.760 remanded back to the trial court for dismissal or prejudice they can do the exact same thing

00:41:45.560 that's what they should be doing right now that's one thing you can tell folks out there in the

00:41:50.020 audience you put pressure on the doj also attorney general todd blanch now hey why don't you do the

00:41:55.960 same thing for this patriot you did for the oath keepers and proud boys the the 12 of us who were

00:41:59.920 not you know not pardoned were commuted they finally did the right well i'm praying i've got

00:42:04.140 a lot of people working for me um you know and fighting for me i talked to tina peters this

00:42:09.220 morning um you know she's being a pretty loud advocate for me as well good um you know she's

00:42:15.100 She's also another patriot that's just gone through hell, you know, and I get that that situation was a state case.

00:42:22.720 But this one is a federal case and very easily pardoned with, you know, with just a signature.

00:42:29.220 No excuse. So no excuse for the DOJ, even right now.

00:42:33.000 No excuse for the Trump administration not to end this one way or the other, either through those two mechanisms.

00:42:38.500 A pardon would take care of it, but also even better, a vacature and dismissal.

00:42:43.580 that's what children should be done yeah i truly believe that this probably just in the last couple

00:42:48.400 weeks is the first time it's really been in their face too um just like you said you know you haven't

00:42:53.540 heard it either um and to be quite honest for the first couple of years while my son was still a

00:42:59.000 minor um i wasn't very vocal about it and i was going through a very emotional time you know

00:43:04.120 mourning the loss of a son that's still living but praise god he did not transition you did not

00:43:10.980 lose your son and and uh all i can say to you is that keep your chin up keep your faith if you do

00:43:21.180 go to prison on monday as absurd as this is don't despair that's what they want you to do don't lose

00:43:28.560 faith make your faith be your rock okay pray every day and i think i think tina told you that and

00:43:36.960 she's been through it too um even worse than us j6ers in many ways he's an elderly lady you know

00:43:42.620 kept held in solitary confinement her life threatened by violent inmates so she went

00:43:47.420 through it you can do it too to stay strong and you will not i don't believe you will spend all

00:43:52.220 that time so i think that one way or another you'll be good if you do go to prison on monday

00:43:56.960 you'll get out soon but god willing this gets stopped i hope that they've the folks out there

00:44:02.320 burn the phone lines up and i hope tina is successful um like she's in washington dc right

00:44:06.980 now i hope she's successful and hope trans is successful in getting the words of the trump

00:44:11.140 administration president trump if he wants to turn around the plummeting numbers he has with

00:44:18.040 his own base right now one way to do that is to do the right thing in this case it'd be the one

00:44:24.040 thing he can do with a stroke of a pen and frankly i would i would encourage him to pardon you so you

00:44:29.140 don't go to prison and then also to pressure todd blanche to vacate your conviction and remand for

00:44:35.920 dismissal with the prejudice so that your record is wiped clean and you're fully restored so what

00:44:41.580 what else do you want to tell the audience before we part ways today um i also you know just want

00:44:48.600 to tell anybody out there that's going through something similar um to stick with it to to keep

00:44:53.960 going to fight because there's not a lot of people who will and there's not a lot of people

00:44:58.220 who have the ability or the strength um but as a single mom if i can do it you can do it

00:45:04.620 and to just hold true to your values and to your faith and know that you're not alone and we're

00:45:12.540 you know there's a lot of us here that are fighting so this never happens to anyone else

00:45:17.700 ever again and to bring this around to the big picture alex handed me this before uh we exchanged

00:45:23.360 places here in germany right now there is a basically a german version of of the southern

00:45:29.180 poverty law center some ngo there published a guide for teachers of how to spot um right-wing

00:45:37.160 families children from right-wing families like girls who wear dresses and pigtails so this is an 0.60

00:45:42.720 assault around the world a war on christianity that's what's happening and we need to just 0.53

00:45:47.300 acknowledge this is this is you know we battle not against flesh and blood this is a battle to

00:45:51.260 good and evil and it is important for all of us to understand like you said that whenever you're

00:45:57.040 in the hot seat you need to do the right thing and stand up for the truth live not by lies speak

00:46:02.680 the truth and the truth will set you free so i want to commend you really um i know what it's

00:46:08.500 like and i want to commend you for sticking to your guns and doing the right thing up until the

00:46:12.980 up until the last so hats off to you yeah thank you i i want to commend you as well i know the

00:46:18.800 things that you've been through and i feel like you're doing great just just being who you are

00:46:23.600 right here because that's that's not a an easy thing to go through and just i mean you know

00:46:29.340 we're not the same people we were no you know we're never going to be those people again

00:46:34.000 but the fact that we're here still fighting the fact that you're just not just at home

00:46:38.600 just enjoying your time of being out and that you're still out here trying to fight and make

00:46:43.220 sure that you know this continues not to happen to other people um it says a lot about your

00:46:48.080 character and i really appreciate having you having me on today appreciate you and and your

00:46:53.400 example hopefully will inspire others if we all stand up if we all refuse to live by the lie we

00:46:59.760 all refuse to take deals the system can't crush us all it can't go on they rely on scaring people

00:47:06.740 and too many lawyers will advise their clients to do dishonorable things and take deals and falsely

00:47:12.300 testify against others so i want to thank you for being a hero god bless you stay strong god bless

00:47:17.480 you all right folks hey thank you for having me on today folks it's been an honor alex has been

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The Alex Jones Show Live - August 20, 2026

Mother Shana Gaviola Tries To Stop Her Teenage Son From Transitioning Without Her Consent!

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