The Alex Jones Show Live - Must-Watch⧸Share FULL INTERVIEW With Talk Show Host Jesse On Fire!

00:00:00.000 If you can essentially, and by the way, just so I preface this,

00:00:05.240 I'm not saying any of this is fact, but thought exercise,

00:00:07.900 if you can prove that you have a half dozen to a dozen people

00:00:12.960 who are in Charlie's inner circle involved that day,

00:00:17.160 what is more likely?

00:00:18.400 That they were involved in whacking out their best friend, husband, and whoever,

00:00:22.800 or that they were involved in an elaborate hoax

00:00:26.480 where the motive would have been,

00:00:30.000 Charlie, have you seen the clip of Charlie talking about that that Joe Biden and Jack Smith had targeted him in the special investigation or the special prosecutor investigation?

00:00:38.440 He was like number two target, apparently.

00:00:40.420 And he spent the entire final year of the campaign believing that if Trump lost, he's going to go to prison for a long time.

00:00:47.880 He said the first thing he thought when Trump won at, you know, one twenty seven at night central that, oh, great, I'm not going to prison.

00:00:56.120 Yep.

00:00:57.360 Yep.

00:00:57.600 And so every every person with a gigantic profile who is facing down an investigation.

00:01:04.560 And again, I love Charlie.

00:01:06.840 They have a major pressure on them to hit the ejection button and make themselves bigger than life.

00:01:11.440 That way you have the cake and eat it, too.

00:01:13.940 Yeah, but I just mean that anybody who's facing inevitable prison, Kenneth Lay, stuff like that.

00:01:18.900 It's like if you know that you're going to go down, everybody's going to get to.

00:01:23.180 Well, my only out is fake my death.

00:01:25.120 When Trump gets into a position where people are being critical of him, he starts to kind of spaz out and he starts saying things that he shouldn't very, very quickly. 1.00

00:01:33.200 Like, example, where they're calling him a pussy. 0.99

00:01:35.880 So he says, well, listen, I had no choice. 0.99

00:01:37.900 We only have four weeks of emergency global oil reserves.

00:01:40.440 And you're like, why would you have told Iran that?

00:01:43.900 Why would you tell them that? 0.75

00:01:44.780 Now they have, like, the leverage.

00:01:46.720 Now they know you have no choice.

00:01:48.560 They can do whatever they want.

00:01:49.460 A bunch of people were saying that Justin Gaethje, that he had to have had, like, lead in his gloves.

00:01:56.260 And he's like, I saw him.

00:01:57.320 He was on Rogan.

00:01:57.880 He's like, he's all, that's all.

00:01:59.060 He's like, that's just flattering.

00:02:00.760 He's like, they say I'm on steroids?

00:02:02.340 Flattering.

00:02:02.800 They say I had lead in my gloves?

00:02:04.880 The guy he was fighting had his hands down, walking straight into straight right punches in the nose.

00:02:10.540 I mean.

00:02:11.320 Yeah, I mean, he was exhausted at the beginning of the third.

00:02:14.840 and that straight shot that Gaethje hit him with

00:02:17.240 like broke his entire left orbital bone.

00:02:21.120 That break is so gnarly.

00:02:23.180 His break, it's the worst orbital bone break I've ever seen

00:02:25.280 because it goes all the way inside of the eye bone.

00:02:27.260 It was like all, and he still fought for another two rounds.

00:02:30.260 I mean, that's incredible.

00:02:31.860 He did a lie detector test also on a podcast

00:02:34.100 and they asked him, he said that he lived in New York

00:02:37.600 the exact same years that Epstein lived in New York.

00:02:40.960 He lived in Palm Beach the exact same years

00:02:42.980 that Epstein lived in Palm Beach.

00:02:44.840 They asked him if he had ever been in the same place as Epstein.

00:02:48.240 He said that he had been at a party that Epstein was at.

00:02:51.840 It's crazy.

00:02:53.480 He also says that he's doing a DNA test right now.

00:02:56.700 He's like, yeah, I'm doing a DNA test,

00:02:58.080 so I'm going to prove I'm not Jeffrey Epstein.

00:02:59.640 I'm like, where would you have gotten Jeffrey Epstein's DNA, guy?

00:03:02.860 You know what I mean?

00:03:03.520 Oh, let me just say to my producers, I want to get Palm Beach Pete on.

00:03:08.060 I cannot wait to watch that.

00:03:10.260 I will watch that with an ear-to-ear smile.

00:03:13.240 Do it, guys. 1.00

00:03:13.980 Here he is with some hot chicks.

00:03:15.560 Guys, it's Palm Beach Peak.

00:03:16.680 Where in the world am I now?

00:03:17.800 I'm with these beautiful ladies, and I'm gaming, and I can't stop winning.

00:03:21.320 Will you last people shopping?

00:03:22.680 Ice me out.

00:03:23.320 Okay, let's go shopping.

00:03:32.180 You see the Israel lobby coming out saying it's preposterous.

00:03:35.080 People are saying Israel did 9-11.

00:03:36.580 They're kind of begging the question.

00:03:37.880 He thinks he protests too much like Macbeth.

00:03:40.180 So we're going to look at the Israelis, not just urban moving systems who admitted, oh, we were told it was going to blow up.

00:03:46.760 So we got there that day and they were connected to Mossad.

00:03:49.820 Everybody knows about that.

00:03:51.260 We'll cover that.

00:03:51.960 Don't worry. 0.82

00:03:53.520 No, it's the Israeli slash, they're all Israeli, but out of Austria art project with the gelatin plastic explosive art project. 0.64

00:04:05.000 And they said their project, they would release to the world their art on 9-11. 0.58

00:04:09.400 and they're right there in the tower where the plane hit in the exact spot where the explosions

00:04:13.120 happened. Wait till we get to that. And the reason I'm doing this is what I've been saying

00:04:18.660 for months, really last year. When Israel gets us in this forever war, they know it's not going to

00:04:23.700 be easy. They're going to want to keep us in it. They're going to need a new 9-11. And Israel's 0.96

00:04:27.320 fingerprints were all over that with elements of our own Pentagon and the neocons here. We're

00:04:31.040 going to cover that too. It wasn't just Israel that hit the U.S.'s liberty. It was in conjunction 0.90

00:04:34.720 with McNamara in 67 and LBJ.

00:04:39.260 That came out from the witnesses, from the admirals,

00:04:41.280 from the chairman of the Joint Union of Staff,

00:04:42.800 Admiral Moore, who I interviewed before he died on air, saying it.

00:04:45.900 I've interviewed the admirals, and LBJ says, 0.88

00:04:49.020 I want that GD ship on the bottom. 0.96

00:04:51.120 They're meant to be blamed on Egypt so they can nuke them 1.00

00:04:53.240 and go to war with Russia. 0.90

00:04:54.360 Yeah, Operation Northwoods 2.0. 0.73

00:04:56.640 So that's where we are here.

00:04:59.320 And now all these top Israeli defense people and intelligence people say,

00:05:02.440 we'll show America Iran's about to do a new 9-11 and then they'll get behind 0.91

00:05:07.640 where they're not even veiling and I said their next move's a new 9-11 for 0.99

00:05:11.360 months and months and now they're saying oh yeah new 9-11 bitch you're gonna be 1.00

00:05:17.520 sucking our wiener you're gonna be putting your kids in the draft to do what 0.99

00:05:21.660 you're told and then they pop up and a bunch of them say it articles are at 0.99

00:05:25.440 alexjoneslive.com all right I'm gonna try to shut up and give our guests the

00:05:28.260 floor i agree about 95 what he says he thinks this guy down in palm beach that does look a lot

00:05:34.120 like could be you know larry silverstein's brother is larry silverstein i mean would they actually

00:05:39.560 hide it in plain view like this he says he's not uh i people think i'm bill hicks i don't look that

00:05:45.440 much like bill hicks but i don't know i don't think this is larry silverstein unless he did

00:05:49.340 some plastic surgery unless the head got smaller and his head's more like a little peanut though

00:05:54.480 the teeth are similar, but if you're an Askenazi Jew, I mean, they tested this guy's DNA, Russian

00:05:59.220 Jew, Polish Jew, originally Polish, and then went into Russia. I mean, they're probably, you know, 0.61

00:06:05.560 heavily related. I mean, but it's like you can look at a Labrador retriever, a black one, and

00:06:10.300 say, God, I can't, looks just like my dog having on his kid, because the genetics are almost the 0.88

00:06:14.440 same. You go to China and walk around, everybody looks the same. It's homogeneous, but we'll get 0.97

00:06:18.780 to that later in the hour, maybe a little bit in the next hour, with our guest Jesse on Fire,

00:06:22.560 is a YouTube creator,

00:06:24.720 podcaster known for breaking down

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00:06:29.100 and internet culture

00:06:30.200 with a focus on critical thinking

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00:06:32.580 He's got a great show,

00:06:33.260 great energy, great brain.

00:06:35.060 YouTube and Spotify,

00:06:35.880 Jesse on Fire,

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00:06:41.580 All right, you sent a lot of topics.

00:06:43.320 Israel opposition in our politics

00:06:45.540 and getting involved.

00:06:46.920 The nightmare of the Iran situation,

00:06:48.780 Jeffrey Epstein and the evidence 0.64

00:06:49.780 that he's living openly in Palm Beach.

00:06:51.280 It's overwhelming.

00:06:52.620 Not sure about that.

00:06:53.940 Charlie Kirk assassination theory, that he's still alive.

00:06:56.580 I think a lot of it does point towards that.

00:06:59.220 Certainly the whole official story is horseman-er.

00:07:01.760 So, Jesse on fire, take it away.

00:07:06.760 First of all, thank you for having me on, huge fan, long-time fan.

00:07:10.700 And I'm ecstatic to be able to talk to you about the Charlie Kirk one

00:07:16.520 because I basically told myself, I'm like, if Alex tells me I'm crazy,

00:07:20.800 then i might just be like okay maybe i'll just shut it down but i'm glad that uh it sounds like

00:07:25.580 there is actual evidence that uh people agree with because i don't know once once it once i put

00:07:32.160 it once i put the theory together obviously there's no way for me to know for sure well let

00:07:36.420 me tell you what happened i'm interrupting you right away and i said i shut up but

00:07:39.820 well you know i'll get to it later just make make me go back to what i'm going to tell you

00:07:43.460 after you talk about kirk let's start with kirk first go ahead okay go for it no i was just going

00:07:47.820 to say that like there's no way to know for sure but uh once i once i put it together and i did

00:07:53.060 this you know i started doing this series on it and every single thing that i went back and looked

00:07:57.980 at there's so much stuff to look at when it comes to this case that you forget about half of it

00:08:02.400 until you go back and every time that i went back and looked at something that didn't really line up

00:08:08.100 it lined up perfect if that's what's actually going on you know what i mean no i totally agree

00:08:13.620 So let me just throw this out because I want to hear from you.

00:08:16.640 I don't go with these things usually, but I'll have folks on that I agree with,

00:08:20.220 and I'll be honest about it that I'm leaning towards this.

00:08:23.340 Sean Johnson, Navy SEAL, a whole bunch, seven combatters, a really smart guy,

00:08:28.640 maybe through Joe Rogan, they're friends, and he knows a bunch of other Navy SEALs

00:08:31.700 and Delta Force guys, and we work out with some of them.

00:08:33.920 About a week into it, he goes, that's a squib from stuntmen.

00:08:39.700 That's what all the military guys think.

00:08:41.220 They think he's alive.

00:08:42.880 And he said, obviously, he's got a podcast.

00:08:44.740 He goes, I'm not going to say that because I'm not 100% sure.

00:08:47.220 And then I'm like, I don't know. 0.99

00:08:48.740 And then they said 30 on six to the neck and all that ridiculous crap. 0.97

00:08:51.460 And then Kash Patel didn't want an investigation of accomplices, didn't want to look at foreign powers and the way his wife acted. 0.92

00:08:58.500 It was either that or some type of low energy, slower air gun or something, what some other military think or something, maybe exploding, Mike, and it didn't detonate properly.

00:09:09.240 Why did they dig out the concrete under it under orders of the FBI and the governor?

00:09:12.400 I mean, there is a cover-up. 0.98

00:09:13.780 The official story is horse crap, so then what is it? 0.98

00:09:15.840 Go ahead. 0.99

00:09:17.180 Yeah, I mean, if I was going to break it down in the most simple possible way

00:09:21.900 and just not get into the meat and bones of it, it's like, if you can essentially,

00:09:29.100 and by the way, just so I preface this, I'm not saying any of this is fact,

00:09:33.080 but thought exercise.

00:09:34.040 If you can prove that you have a half dozen to a dozen people who are in Charlie's inner circle involved that day, what is more likely?

00:09:44.380 That they were involved in whacking out their best friend, husband, and whoever, or that they were involved in an elaborate hoax where the motive would have been Charlie?

00:09:56.560 have you seen the clip of charlie talking about that uh that joe biden and jack smith had targeted

00:10:01.240 him in the special investigation uh or the special prosecutor investigation he was like number two

00:10:05.660 target apparently and he spent the entire final year of the campaign believing that if trump lost

00:10:12.300 he's gonna go to prison for a long time he said the first thing he thought when trump won at you

00:10:16.260 know 127 at night uh central that oh great i'm not going to prison yep yep and so every every

00:10:25.080 person with a gigantic profile who is facing down an investigation and i and again i love charlie

00:10:32.900 they have a major pressure on them to hit the ejection button and make themselves bigger than

00:10:36.900 life that way you have the cake and eat it too yep but i just mean that anybody who's facing

00:10:42.540 inevitable prison kenneth lay stuff like that it's like if you know that you're going to go down

00:10:47.420 everybody's going to get to well my only out is fake my death and i do believe ken lay uh that

00:10:53.480 was fake it would take an hour to go and do it he was down in south america was seen a hundred

00:10:57.940 percent that was staged yeah yep so i mean the side of it that's like oh you know what happened

00:11:05.860 that day i i've just looked to other people's research because when i started putting it

00:11:11.960 together myself it had everything to do with the behavior of the people around it i just couldn't

00:11:16.440 figure it out well that was the biggest thing i'm like they're laughing they're smiling they're

00:11:20.800 They don't look upset.

00:11:22.140 Where's all the blood? 1.00

00:11:24.000 And it looks like a squib coming out.

00:11:26.040 And I'm not, folks, I'm just saying a week into it, there was a consensus with Sean Johnson's military buddies who were like, he's a demolition expert, you name it, and a weapons expert.

00:11:36.300 They said, no, we think that's fake.

00:11:38.180 We think he's alive.

00:11:39.340 And I said, well, I'm not going to go there yet.

00:11:40.900 And now it's just the only thing that makes sense.

00:11:44.320 yeah yeah i mean and and uh i feel like a lot of people that that focus on the case are are i would

00:11:51.940 say they would consider themselves adversaries of tp usa i don't consider myself an adversary of

00:11:55.940 anybody and candidly one of the main reasons that i did the series is because i saw when i when i

00:12:01.800 thought that i had figured it out i was like i i think everyone who's attacking them has a complete

00:12:07.380 misunderstanding of what actually happened and they're doing it where they're actually attacking

00:12:11.920 And, Charlie, they think that they're protecting him and they're doing the exact opposite.

00:12:14.900 Well, let's be clear.

00:12:15.800 I mean, I wouldn't say super good friends, but I met him during the 2016 campaign.

00:12:20.020 We flew on a plane together and talked a lot.

00:12:22.060 He would call and thank me from time to time and said, great job exposing Epstein.

00:12:25.000 Keep it up.

00:12:25.380 Put pressure.

00:12:26.120 Good pressure.

00:12:26.660 Put pressure on Trump.

00:12:28.200 He wants to go to full.

00:12:28.940 They're trying to get him into full war.

00:12:29.940 That's right before he got killed.

00:12:31.160 And I got the phone record.

00:12:32.040 He called me and texted me.

00:12:33.800 And so he was a great guy.

00:12:35.700 And that's why it's hard to believe any of this, the boldness to stage it.

00:12:38.720 But the official story, again, the 30-odd six, none of it's true.

00:12:41.920 and so yeah when you look at all this it really does point towards that and i'm a big tp usa fan

00:12:48.060 i think their work's been very important exactly i'm not saying this just to get clicks or something

00:12:51.620 in fact i could have come out week one with i mean all these delta force and navy seals i mean

00:12:56.200 it was a consensus sean was getting them on the phone and stuff they were like oh no we all know

00:13:00.280 it's fake he's a lot and these are experts they're like that's fake yeah yep yeah and i mean when you

00:13:07.620 look at erica specifically the other thing to look at and i always recommend this to people is i go

00:13:13.100 go look at her and charlie on video together before this happened and then compare it to

00:13:19.140 afterwards because how do you explain the gigantic shift in energy like obviously she's not showing

00:13:25.300 grief but she also is totally normal on camera when she's with charlie they have they to me it

00:13:31.760 appears like they have an incredible relationship and so you look and you're like no exactly she

00:13:35.780 She looks loving and beautiful and genuine when Charlie's there.

00:13:39.560 Then, obviously, her eyes get crazy.

00:13:41.280 She acts witch-like.

00:13:43.260 If you wanted to be an actress and put off, to come off as disingenuous,

00:13:47.980 you'd have to be a master actor to look that disingenuous.

00:13:51.420 Yes, that's exactly, yeah, that's an excellent way to put it.

00:13:54.240 You would have to be Daniel Day-Lewis to successfully look as disingenuous

00:13:59.240 as she has looked in all of these things.

00:14:01.220 But also, you know, when you think back on a lot of the early stuff

00:14:04.540 where you know they put on instagram where she's there you know over the over the coffin and you're

00:14:10.580 like what is this like who would do this like who who would make a show like this unless you know

00:14:16.340 you're trying to sell it and the other thing too is uh when milo yiannopoulos went on tim uh tim

00:14:22.240 pool's channel i think it was on december 5th 2025 if i remember correctly and he he outed the fact

00:14:28.720 that he knew for 100% sure that Charlie had not been buried yet that's all it's like a hair short

00:14:35.000 of three months after the assassination and that was right when Erica went on that press tour

00:14:41.600 literally right after that is when she went on the press tour and she was like can I just have

00:14:45.000 this one thing and so in hindsight I'm like uh this feels like this might have been a reaction

00:14:50.880 to this you know this big elaborate uh or you know a big big thing that they definitely were

00:14:56.920 like oh my god how could he have known that and now everybody knows that yeah we were just showing

00:15:02.140 a joke video of a fake erica i told the crew yeah and they're doing a great job no need to show the

00:15:06.720 fake ones show that first rally where she doesn't come out eyes swollen crying any of that she's

00:15:12.280 like whoa baby in the hot black pants oh god and everybody's like what the hell is this and then

00:15:19.080 it just goes on and then and then she overcompensates all acting pissed off i'm sorry it

00:15:24.460 And I even told TV USA, their highest little people, I said, listen, because I don't think they killed him.

00:15:29.200 I know all these people well.

00:15:30.780 I've had dinner with them. 1.00

00:15:31.420 These are like nerdly Christian. 1.00

00:15:32.840 I mean, that mean, like, we need people to vote. 0.99

00:15:35.040 Yes, we're working hard.

00:15:35.820 Alex, you need to stop drinking.

00:15:37.520 I've actually been out to dinner before. 0.93

00:15:38.540 And Alex, you should, I know you're a Christian, but you sure you should have another double vodka?

00:15:42.820 No.

00:15:43.540 I mean, these are not Lex Luthor people.

00:15:45.760 But then you look at the story, none of it adds up.

00:15:47.840 And I've told the high-level folks, like, let me do you a favor.

00:15:51.280 This is early on. 1.00

00:15:51.780 I said, tell her to shut up. 0.99

00:15:53.540 just shut up you're hurting yourself yeah yeah that's i mean that's basically the fundamentals 0.99

00:15:59.380 of the entire belief system for me was i looked at these guys and especially if you look at the 0.98

00:16:04.840 video of them on election night and you look at how they all interact it's like these are

00:16:09.200 these are good people who love charlie they don't like like him he's not like a bot and that's

00:16:14.660 another reason i came to her defense early on because i had dinner with him five or six times

00:16:18.920 been at a few other events and you can't fake this christian stuff and i'm christian but i'm 0.99

00:16:22.820 not like Bible thumper on your ass when I saw they're having orgies at TPSA they're all on 0.99

00:16:27.780 cocaine no folks it's a snore fest of them making phone calls doing interviews and workaholics 1.00

00:16:33.960 I'm telling you there's no swinging from chandeliers that's why when you see all this

00:16:38.180 stuff about them now she's had a little bit more racy past before Charlie but the rest of these

00:16:41.640 people this is like watching paint dry bro yeah yeah and I mean the other thing too is is it let's

00:16:48.400 just let's say hypothetically that they had been they had actually been involved in a large

00:16:54.140 conspiracy to whack him out when when they're doing the podcast early on where you had mikey

00:16:59.300 mccoy blake neff uh andrew colvin and erica on that one and it was like 12 days after charlie

00:17:05.780 had supposedly gotten killed none of them are sad at all like they're all they're all ear to

00:17:12.280 ear smiles i'm like this this makes no sense like and i and at the time i couldn't put it together

00:17:16.660 i was just like what's up with these people i don't i don't get it it was all in hindsight when

00:17:20.620 i started really thinking through a bunch of different things you know what the big key that

00:17:24.940 actually the final thing that that was like a lightning bolt where i'm like i think i figured

00:17:29.280 it out was actually phil lyman's appearance on your show like literally within a day or two

00:17:35.040 afterwards when he said that he had seen those two girls and they were goth or whatever and they're

00:17:41.440 go you know oh f these people and for some reason right after i heard erica's uh recording after the

00:17:48.280 uh after the memorial and she was talking about the merch sales i was live streaming that when i

00:17:53.240 listened to it for the first time and i closed it out i'm like she's either an alien or charlie's

00:17:57.560 alive i don't think that there's a third option here and i walked downstairs and for some reason

00:18:02.200 that phil lyman interview popped into my head and i was like wait a minute i'm like phil lyman says

00:18:06.400 those two girls that points to the leftist and for some reason that was the one where i'm like

00:18:10.540 i know what they did like i know what they did and then i started putting it together from there

00:18:16.600 because let's start walking through that i don't know what you're going to say but

00:18:19.080 you have all these leftists right when the gunshot goes turns around and yell yay you have this weird

00:18:24.260 known leftist opera that pops up everywhere for the bushes and others for decades who pops in

00:18:29.200 is his name he pops up and says i did it i'm the shooter and then he says i did it so he could get

00:18:32.900 away they thought they were part of something more like decoys or or for the show none of them were

00:18:39.380 in fear i don't think they were read in on the whole thing is that where you're going with this

00:18:42.760 well with those people i think that there was just a very concerted effort to to to push the

00:18:49.760 suspicion towards leftists like it seemed like a very very there to be leftist saying yeah you

00:18:55.080 killed him too like they were and then you had 10 different trainees say he'll be dead tomorrow

00:18:59.220 and then cash won't look into them uh and i was told by tbusa well he doesn't think they can

00:19:04.380 convict him so and he tells Tulsi Gabbard don't look at them and don't look at Israel so yeah but

00:19:10.020 what you have is them pushing a narrative day one that isn't true you have a clear chat GPT

00:19:14.560 confession letter you have this the gun found reassembled in a chicken coop when no other 0.66

00:19:19.360 gun dogs can find it the FBI finds it in two minutes I mean this is ridiculous this and it 0.80

00:19:24.200 is a magic bullet just like JFK but even more magic yeah yeah I mean the so as it relates to

00:19:31.820 the leftists who were there my because for the first because i covered this case extensively

00:19:36.960 from the very beginning and the and i was one of the only people who was really pushing back hard

00:19:43.080 on the official narrative but i was still focused pretty heavily on the leftists i thought it was 0.97

00:19:48.600 leftists i just thought it was a huge group of them yeah we had a bunch of trannies running around 0.99

00:19:52.660 killing people cheering sir we had a bunch of trannies running around killing people every 1.00

00:19:56.260 week then it made perfect sense yeah yep yeah i mean i i made some connections to between uh 0.99

00:20:02.900 one of the you know leftists that i thought stood out as a very likely you know conspirator to the

00:20:08.780 robin westman one in minnesota i mean there was all i have this whole thing i mean i covered it

00:20:12.300 extensively on that side but at the end of the day it's like it wouldn't be challenging to put

00:20:16.860 a bunch of leftists physically there if you leak the fact that something's going to happen there

00:20:21.800 through those channels and you put them there on purpose because that's what i was saying is

00:20:25.660 Like, originally, I'm like, I don't care if someone just had read in a forum that they're going to clip Charlie that day.

00:20:31.720 If they knew that showed up, put him in prison for 50 years just for knowing and not saying anything.

00:20:36.660 Jesse, you're on fire.

00:20:38.020 Jesse on fire is our guest.

00:20:39.460 We're going to come right back with him.

00:20:40.820 I agree where he's pointing.

00:20:42.220 I'm not saying 100%, but the other stuff 100% doesn't make sense.

00:20:44.960 It was a lie.

00:20:46.420 But he wasn't even really shot.

00:20:48.200 Why dig up all the concrete and say destroy the crime scene? 0.99

00:20:51.180 Again, I mean, this sucker gets weirder. 0.98

00:20:53.940 This is the ultimate whodunit, folks. 0.99

00:20:55.440 This makes JFK look simple.

00:20:57.020 We'll be right back with Jesse on fire.

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00:22:59.000 now all right jesse on fire is a very smart guy and i i watch his show every couple days now i

00:23:07.840 when i first found like a year ago i'd watch him here and there thought it's a smart guy

00:23:10.620 but now he's definitely a go-to and i'm not a conspiracy theorist i always get called that

00:23:16.020 98% of what I do is public events.

00:23:18.040 I get my analysis, my opinion on it, okay?

00:23:20.280 And I have guests on to talk about interesting things.

00:23:22.720 And the media will take snippets out of context or this or that.

00:23:25.160 It's just what they do.

00:23:26.420 Then people actually find the show.

00:23:27.380 They go, well, this is different than what I thought it was.

00:23:29.620 But, I mean, military experts, a week into it,

00:23:34.980 and I didn't really get into arguments with Sean Johnson.

00:23:36.520 I was just like, that's bold, man.

00:23:38.660 I know these guys, and they're a bunch of, you know, happy campers.

00:23:42.580 And he goes, yeah, okay, well, and then the 30-odd-6 thing,

00:23:45.380 all that's even more insane and you watch their body language and i didn't know he was going to

00:23:49.320 cover this topic there i have it already guys pull up there's pretty up close video when they

00:23:53.700 grab him and put him behind the deal and they're sitting there smiling and it's low energy and when

00:23:58.100 they're carrying to the car i mean i'm sorry i have a green berets on people that have you know

00:24:03.280 medics you name it even them that are trained when they're putting pressure on blood and bullet holes

00:24:08.260 they are stressed out there their eyes are like this i mean i've been at car wrecks and help people

00:24:12.580 I know I'm all adrenaline, all like this.

00:24:14.940 I mean, even paramedics are like that.

00:24:16.480 You don't see the, somebody you've really known for over a decade, they're good.

00:24:20.860 I mean, I've had friends hurt before, and you see their compound fracture or something.

00:24:25.660 You've got to get sick in your stomach because you care about this person, even if you're

00:24:27.640 tough.

00:24:28.180 I didn't see people puking.

00:24:29.920 I didn't see any of the stuff you'd see out of a, I mean, if you had like 20 of your crew

00:24:33.860 with you, I guarantee you, if somebody shot me in the neck and I'm bleeding out, there'd

00:24:37.020 be crew puking. 0.96

00:24:38.220 There'd be people freaking out, at least some of them.

00:24:40.140 You didn't see any of that.

00:24:40.900 You saw them running around like they had football plays, grabbing all the equipment, grabbing the stuff like it was all super rehearsed.

00:24:46.840 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

00:24:49.420 Yeah, no, I agree. And then and the lack of blood, that was one of the things, too, that I heard prior to me even entertaining.

00:24:57.640 This theory was like I heard guys that are, you know, very, very experienced special ops guys.

00:25:03.540 And they're like, where is the blood all over their hands, their shirts, their feet, their shoes, everything?

00:25:07.900 there should be an enormous amount of blood on all of these guys and they're carrying him there's

00:25:13.520 no blood trail on the cement they ignore the first aid guy uh that when they try to approach

00:25:18.920 the car and it's just you know and again i thought i mean if you wanted to boil my my theory down to

00:25:25.260 a single concept it's that everybody sees these inconsistencies and they have less faith in

00:25:30.420 humanity than i do where i'm like these guys are not going to conspire to kill him so if there are

00:25:34.520 all these inconsistencies has to be something else because these are good people like they're

00:25:38.140 not they're not gonna they're not gonna do that you know so that's i mean that's literally the

00:25:41.800 only place where i differentiate from everybody else is that i'm giving all of them the benefit

00:25:45.960 of the doubt and they're interpreting it to be murder because they're taking for granted that 0.61

00:25:50.000 charlie's 30 odd six steel neck crap and all this none of that adds oh yeah it's not nonsense

00:25:56.200 nonsense yeah we went uh myself and heavy duty country has a huge channel on uh youtube as well 0.69

00:26:02.220 And he, we went out to his ranch and we shot every single type of 30-06 at like these huge roasts.

00:26:10.700 We put a big cow femur behind it.

00:26:13.060 It obviously just tore through everything.

00:26:15.800 Valhalla VFT went out there.

00:26:17.180 He shot, he shot, I think it was like half inch steel.

00:26:20.420 30-06 went straight through it.

00:26:22.540 And I mean, so they said that it was a frangible round.

00:26:26.200 So I went on the internet.

00:26:27.100 The only frangible rounds I could find were relics from World War II. 0.73

00:26:30.780 And I bought them.

00:26:31.800 They were like $12 each round.

00:26:33.380 I think we got six of them.

00:26:35.100 And, you know, people were like, you probably shouldn't shoot those.

00:26:37.800 And we're like, well, we're just going to roll the dice. 0.99

00:26:39.540 And we shot them.

00:26:40.120 But you could hear that the powder had degraded.

00:26:42.620 They were probably going half or maybe even 40% as fast as they, you know,

00:26:46.380 would have been normally.

00:26:47.420 Barely made it on the barrel. 0.75

00:26:48.320 And they still ripped straight through the roast and straight through the bone.

00:26:51.560 All of it.

00:26:52.040 Sure.

00:26:52.260 I've watched the report, and other people's as well. 0.97

00:26:54.360 And I saw people going, oh, well, it was a Sabo.

00:26:57.480 Well, if it was a Sabo with a smaller round, it goes even through things faster.

00:27:01.060 And, again, you have those air marshal non-millimeters that don't go through the plane.

00:27:08.560 Still, they go through a neck. 0.99

00:27:11.740 So, yeah, absolute horse crap. 1.00

00:27:14.180 Yeah. 0.98

00:27:14.780 I mean, it's just there's nothing there.

00:27:16.580 There's nothing there, man, on a neck.

00:27:19.320 So no one's buying it.

00:27:21.860 Undoubtedly, you watch Trump's poll numbers. 0.94

00:27:23.700 Kirk gets killed.

00:27:24.620 They cover up Epstein.

00:27:26.220 The Iran war, he's gone from, like, 56 points or even higher to 30 now.

00:27:30.580 don't they get that this has not worked well for them i mean yeah the the that's the other thing

00:27:37.340 is sometimes uh like some of the the kind of standard pushback that i get is they're like

00:27:41.460 okay well so why would the administration have agreed to this i'm like did you see butler

00:27:46.860 like this so it's not just that it was going to be if it would have worked it would have been a

00:27:52.180 positive thing for their you know forthcoming uh control of the government but the other thing is

00:27:58.020 like it's like what you would have had to get a yes from trump and it's like so what is going to

00:28:02.160 motivate trump and immediately following the assassination they publicly announced that they

00:28:07.420 had deemed uh antifa and these left-wing groups as domestic terrorists and that unlocks the patriot

00:28:12.800 act and they specifically said that they were then going to be able to target the people who

00:28:17.340 are funding those groups which are undoubtedly the exact people who are trying to put charlie

00:28:22.000 in prison trying to put trump in prison so it would have been the kind of let's expand on that

00:28:26.240 bury those guys 100 now what happened at the ufc now that fbi experts on you name it but the fbi 0.64

00:28:33.200 famously hatches like 97 of these terror plots the muslims same thing here oh it's antifa oh it's

00:28:40.240 anti-data centers oh they're anti-apac now let's ban anybody that criticizes apac that's what the

00:28:45.880 israeli operatives are calling for and then they put out this new terrorism prospectus alert that

00:28:51.500 the domestic terrorism is the main threat and i get it the left are terrorists blown up the teslas

00:28:55.520 I agree, but when they do something, but instead, oh, we got to surveil everybody and ban criticizing AIPAC.

00:29:01.440 Now it shifts from don't kill conservatives or anybody else to, oh, if you're anti-APAC, you're a terrorist.

00:29:06.080 And then you look at these people they've indicted.

00:29:08.180 They literally all live with their mother, like one of them had a gun.

00:29:10.900 They had like 80 IQs.

00:29:12.700 None of it was real. 1.00

00:29:13.840 It was all delusional crap. 0.99

00:29:15.740 They called it a very serious threat. 0.99

00:29:17.000 They stopped.

00:29:17.700 Whole thing a PR exercise.

00:29:18.840 What do you think?

00:29:19.880 I totally agree with you.

00:29:21.080 And the other thing that I noticed about that particular story was the day that they announced it, they said that they had arrested five people of a 23-person plot in the Signal group, which made me think, oh, you know, the Whitmer one, it was like, oh, they got three or two or three guys that they entrapped and then like 12 agents and informants.

00:29:41.480 So if they only arrested five of the 23, then how many of the other people were just entrapping these guys?

00:29:46.200 and then they ran another story after that a couple days later where they said that local

00:29:51.020 law enforcement had was upset that cash had announced the arrest because it somehow jammed

00:29:57.500 them up from making additional arrests which i think was probably them you know responding to

00:30:02.020 people pointing out that they had only arrest five of 23 and they're like oh they're like oh well now

00:30:05.680 we can't do it you know we can't make the other arrests because you know cash announced it or

00:30:09.340 whatever you know what i mean and that also adds to cover up and guys i had this from the top of

00:30:13.640 tb usa and then i got it from inside the cabinet i broke all this remember like six days after he

00:30:18.000 was killed cash comes in out the president's authority we're not looking at foreign intelligence 0.82

00:30:22.680 tulsi gabbard joe kent and we're not looking at the trannies that said he'll be dead tomorrow 0.96

00:30:26.800 and so i i raised that tb usa they go well he didn't think they could get the convictions 0.95

00:30:31.160 whatever it's the proof it's trannies but if you don't have it's the proof it's them 0.87

00:30:34.960 then you don't want to go there right yep yep and everybody thinks that i'm i mean i don't know 0.97

00:30:42.420 this to be a fact and i'm certainly not trying to throw anybody in a jackpot but i have oh i've

00:30:46.780 been operating under the assumption that joe kent was the original source who publicly you know who

00:30:52.440 got that word out that cash had uh had blocked their ability to look into foreign ties and again

00:30:58.680 that's one of those things where i understand why people would be i mean everybody of course is going

00:31:03.980 to assume that israel did it because they had motive they have a history of you know assassinating

00:31:10.820 their detractors or people who are you know getting in between them and what they want you

00:31:15.080 know you had charlie's specifically railing against the future iran war now and then they

00:31:20.520 said that wasn't true and then the candace released all the receipts which i confirmed

00:31:24.400 he called and thanked me for stopping the war at midnight hammer he called me and i'm like really

00:31:29.360 well thank you and he was calling a bunch of people so so i knew i must have the text messages

00:31:32.200 but let me just throw this at you let me clear it up and i'm sure kent was involved it was not

00:31:37.440 joe kent told me at the cabinet meeting with the vice president joe kent dulcie gabbard a bunch of

00:31:43.060 others susie walls and trump but trump left the meeting he always does that and then

00:31:47.200 patel's like i have the president's backing we're not looking at any foreign involvement you're not

00:31:50.920 supposed to be involved in my intelligence which he said he was going to abolish the intelligence

00:31:54.700 arm of the uh of the fbi get rid of the building she's her agency was created to share intelligence

00:32:00.300 and it may be over that so there he is doing that i got it from somebody else

00:32:04.600 then harrison would never tell me his source i knew he'd had joe kent on before harrison smith

00:32:10.740 goes to this ron paul ninth birthday or whatever about a month before he's killed high level folks

00:32:16.680 come over and like yeah i know charlie's afraid they're gonna kill him he makes some calls joke

00:32:22.420 i'm not gonna say when i'm gonna give the whole details just joe kent was already already talked

00:32:28.140 already looking at this so they already thought and then afterwards uh you know then he calls

00:32:33.480 Harrison up after he's killed. So, yeah, Joe

00:32:35.620 Kent at the National Counter Terrorism Center

00:32:37.400 had his ear to the ground and was really doing his

00:32:39.540 job. Yeah, he's one

00:32:41.560 of the guys that you look at, and

00:32:43.460 I just am always going to take for granted that

00:32:45.540 he's doing the right thing. There's not a lot

00:32:47.500 of them. You know what I mean? There's not a lot

00:32:49.520 of people where I just trust their motives.

00:32:51.520 Oh, well, Mark Levin said, who is this pop?

00:32:53.480 What's he know? And so is Joe Kent. Only 18

00:32:55.560 combat tours, wife killed, trying to

00:32:57.540 save kids with the CIA. What's he

00:32:59.540 know? He's just a damn war hero, a soldier 1.00

00:33:01.440 soldier. What do you know, pal? 0.99

00:33:03.480 yeah gold star husband too and they uh you know these guys when they started when they started

00:33:09.560 their propaganda tour against him i was like that is that's an aggressive is it 12 tours or 18 tours

00:33:15.820 i think it was 12 i think it was 11 it was 11 of the green berets i could be wrong and then a bunch

00:33:20.520 for the cia though i think it was total 18 years though yeah yeah yeah and his wife got killed over

00:33:25.820 there too and i mean it's like uh i remember one of them said that we uh there was a conversation

00:33:30.880 about that and someone had belittled his service and then they talked about his uh you know the

00:33:35.760 fact that he had lost his wife in the war on terror and someone was like so what he got remarried i'm

00:33:40.660 like what like who are these people they're aliens no that was trump trump said oh he sure got

00:33:46.120 remarried fast what a year what do you think happens when somebody blows up your wife you

00:33:50.140 better go get one real quick you're gonna or you're gonna commit suicide yeah that was uh 0.71

00:33:55.520 that's that's a bad comment it's a it's a bad comment for sure well yeah i mean that's like 0.80

00:34:01.980 frank herbert's wife i'm a fan of herbert read biography about him she was dying of uh heart

00:34:06.680 heart failure and she said honey go get yourself a great wife right now or you're gonna end up

00:34:10.940 not eating and dying because and he went and and then went and got married like a few months after

00:34:15.240 because she told him to yeah i mean you know it's like it's the idea that you get married like it's

00:34:20.220 like massey six months after his wife dies gets married what are you supposed to just slit your

00:34:23.680 rest yeah no and i i mean i've told i've made this public i mean i've talked about this about

00:34:29.160 to my wife a thousand times and i've said it publicly just so that in the event that that

00:34:32.980 ever happened i'm like i would support one of my friends marrying my wife like i would consider

00:34:38.440 that one of the most like loyal things a person could do you're going to take care of my kids

00:34:42.500 after i'm gone like i don't you think i want my wife living on her own it's like uh yeah i've

00:34:48.660 already vetted someone who's one of my good friends at least i know they're solid you know

00:34:52.580 people like oh you're gonna be down with them that's just i don't know i mean there's a story

00:34:56.600 my dad called him his uncle but really was his older cousin great combat vet incredible guy

00:35:00.440 intelligence all this stuff and he had his best buddy that was a big army armor and he died of

00:35:05.220 cancer and and and and my dad's uncle's wife had just died of a brain aneurysm she was pretty young

00:35:11.680 and he said i'm dying please marry my wife and you know what he did he married her and took

00:35:15.600 care of her whole family and that was the best thing a buddy could he asked him to do it that's

00:35:20.220 one of the most selfless things that a person could do and i when when people interpret that

00:35:24.600 i mean obviously circumstances could make that not that but in that situation it's it's one of

00:35:30.380 the most uh yeah that's the best friend that you could have well these people just aren't haven't

00:35:35.640 lived they're not sophisticated so uh expanding on that let's talk about what happened yesterday

00:35:40.620 in at the uh at the meeting and uh and i heard you hold on we got some time the next hour unless

00:35:46.800 You've got to go, but I want to put bookends on Kirk.

00:35:48.240 Oh, no, I don't have to go.

00:35:49.000 What needs to happen now with Kirk?

00:35:50.800 Where do you see this going?

00:35:51.620 Because nobody's buying it.

00:35:54.820 Honestly, I don't see a – I have no idea.

00:35:59.160 Because what my theory has been is that the plan was to do this.

00:36:06.980 Erica was then going to be elevated.

00:36:08.540 She was going to basically be the new Charlie.

00:36:10.760 He would be advising her, you know,

00:36:12.420 he'd still be running the show behind the scenes.

00:36:14.020 She would be the public face.

00:36:14.920 he still runs the company or the organization and i think and then again this is all just

00:36:20.740 hypothesis but i think that maybe candace had conflict with people in high places at tp usa

00:36:27.460 which forced them to not include her in this plan and between the two things which is a 0.99

00:36:33.240 what if erica can't pull off grieving wife and b what if candace smells a rat and that's like 1.00

00:36:39.920 if candace smells a rat she's going to burn your house to the ground like she's the last person 1.00

00:36:45.200 that you would ever want with a genuine motivation to like bring you know bring people to justice in 1.00

00:36:52.000 that situation she's a dragon and if you kept her on the outside of this plot and erica's not pulling 1.00

00:36:57.940 it off so then she starts smelling a rat because she knows all of them and they're lying at the end

00:37:01.560 of the day it's like you know there are a lot of people who talk to me about this they're like well

00:37:05.280 why wouldn't they just start giving more public transparent answers i'm like because it'll look

00:37:10.500 like they whacked him out they conspired to fake whack him out they and he you can't come out he's

00:37:16.400 he's probably in the program and so what i mean i don't know what their options would be you know

00:37:20.920 what i mean well i know barry jennings was the deputy head of new york emergency management when

00:37:25.500 he came on our show the episode interview saying that he was in world trade center seven that the

00:37:30.580 cia came in they said we're about to blow the building up you got to get out they already

00:37:33.320 detonated some bombs and a week later he dies of cancer and then we send reporters to the house

00:37:37.880 neighbors go no he's still alive they loaded up trucks witness protection program i mean they do

00:37:43.300 do that and they told my theory on building seven is i just i i've said it's super short

00:37:50.140 i think flight 93 was supposed to hit seven and i think that because 93 went down and then they

00:37:56.600 realized they're scrambling they're like this thing is loaded to the gills with explosives man

00:38:00.000 We can't leave it there or else they're going to find all the explosives.

00:38:03.080 And that's why they had to pull it and pull it down.

00:38:04.980 And it's a total hypothesis.

00:38:06.260 No, no.

00:38:08.480 It is speculation, but I've heard that from a lot of experts.

00:38:14.720 But you look at the trajectory coming out of Pennsylvania.

00:38:18.760 It could have been going to New York or D.C.

00:38:20.460 The word was it was going to hit the Capitol. 0.98

00:38:23.060 And that's why the happy hooligans out of the Dakotas,

00:38:27.120 but were stationed in Pennsylvania then, got the order.

00:38:30.020 Actually, I heard this when it happened, but it came out in FAA tapes.

00:38:33.060 They put two AIM-9s into Flight 93.

00:38:34.980 That's why it was over like a 7, 8-mile range.

00:38:37.120 And the engine's over here, and then there's just a little smoking hole.

00:38:39.960 What do you think of that B-52 blowing up, and there's nothing there?

00:38:42.600 Did you see that last week?

00:38:44.200 No.

00:38:45.840 You had the B-52?

00:38:46.600 Oh, oh, oh, my wife was trying to show that to me, and I didn't. 0.61

00:38:50.520 She was literally trying to show me that for an hour,

00:38:52.640 and I can't remember what I was.

00:38:53.460 No, I didn't see it.

00:38:54.680 What happened?

00:38:55.320 We'll show it later.

00:38:56.380 I have to pull it up.

00:38:57.280 I mean, it's Flight 93.

00:38:58.880 I mean, it got shot down.

00:39:01.120 They do this all the time.

00:39:02.060 The Russians did it during the Afghan War, too, is that you get aircraft shot down.

00:39:06.680 You don't want to admit it, so you say there's accidents back in the country. 0.99

00:39:09.880 That's the oldest trick.

00:39:10.540 Oh, training accident with a helicopter.

00:39:13.040 But, yeah, oh, the B-52, there's nothing there.

00:39:15.820 I mean, look, that's the B-52 wreckage.

00:39:20.400 Oh, so you're talking for inventory.

00:39:22.680 Like, they have to inventory the fact that they don't have the B-52 anymore,

00:39:25.360 so they do this yeah and say and say it just blew up and all they died and really and really

00:39:30.060 remember the air force came out a few months ago and said they now they can now shoot down any of

00:39:35.220 our aircraft even 100 000 feet and it's because i wonder who gave them that technology our little

00:39:40.200 pals over in china and russia yeah yeah but but let's just stop there because we're running wild

00:39:45.680 here uh and it's a great interview moving on now uh what do you want to tackle next because you've

00:39:53.920 got the Strait of Hormuz situation, you've got what's happening in Iran.

00:39:57.120 Let's hit that now.

00:39:57.800 It takes a few minutes.

00:39:58.680 Then I want to get into this individual, and I've seen this, and I don't know what to say

00:40:03.000 out in Palm Beach, you know, is that, I think they might have staged Epstein's death.

00:40:11.780 I think that's very legitimate.

00:40:13.180 In fact, we'll talk about that at the time.

00:40:15.000 But now, just looking at Trump in general, can he pull out of this before the midterms?

00:40:18.980 What do you make of Israel trying to take over the military and Pentagon and the NDAA?

00:40:22.140 What do you make of Levin saying now Trump's bullying Israel by not staying in a war that we're not winning, that the Pentagon said we wouldn't win?

00:40:29.740 You've got a lot of astute things to say about that.

00:40:33.040 So yesterday, when Iran walked, you know, after and they said, oh, you know, Trump already broke the agreement because he threatened us.

00:40:42.040 And then I started looking into exactly what everybody was saying.

00:40:45.160 And Lindsey Graham went on Fox News and literally said verbatim what Trump had written in the post, which they were referencing in the threats.

00:40:55.180 Exactly. I mean, to the word. And he said that he had talked to Trump for four and a half hours.

00:41:01.340 And, you know, oh, hey, if the deal doesn't doesn't happen, then the United States is going to take over the straight up removes and we're going to start charging tolls.

00:41:09.160 And we're you know, we're going to whack out these guys before they even get back to Iran.

00:41:13.020 and i'm looking at this going dude trump already announced that the world emergency oil reserves

00:41:20.980 of four weeks left of emergency oil reserves like what what are you and if we could have just

00:41:27.440 taken over the straight up removes how like why would we have been making this deal all along

00:41:31.960 instead of just doing that it's a it doesn't even make it doesn't even make any sense like it doesn't

00:41:37.680 the whole thing makes but he said last week we can't take the straight because they've got all

00:41:41.380 these short-range missiles and artillery and and then he was quoting the pentagon saying no they

00:41:45.760 can hold it no matter what we do they have 10 to 1 the amount of weapons and troops are willing to

00:41:49.460 die and then he's back to oh we'll just take it yeah it's like he's it's like you spin the dial

00:41:54.220 you get a different trump every hour yeah yeah i mean if if i said early on that like the only

00:42:00.380 the only negotiating tactic that i could see working given the fact that they can

00:42:06.000 keep the ships from going through the strait regardless of having a big small whatever

00:42:11.040 military all they have to do is threaten to you know hit them with drones is we would have to

00:42:16.340 start hitting all the ships that are going to their allies you know it's it's like a game of

00:42:20.380 chicken that's the only thing that i could see that would work is then because then all of their

00:42:23.380 allies are going to put pressure on them and be like look you need to you need to make a deal

00:42:26.420 because we are going to starve also but you know i don't know i don't really know what they were

00:42:31.900 doing with the blockade but either way at this point four weeks of emergency oil we just need

00:42:35.560 to make the deal and just do whatever needs to get done to not, you know,

00:42:40.600 have this thing fall through.

00:42:41.780 And then Mark Levin says, we're wimps.

00:42:43.560 We're not like the World War II generation.

00:42:45.240 Well, it took 110,000 Marines and Navy to take, you know,

00:42:49.460 just Iwo Jima and we lost 25,000 troops fighting 23 Japanese, 23,000.

00:42:53.680 Do you understand the Pentagon said 200,000 troops to take the straight

00:42:56.320 arms?

00:42:56.880 Don't you understand that, Mark Levin? 1.00

00:42:58.480 Don't you understand it didn't work, you dumb son of a bitch? 1.00

00:43:01.280 Yeah, it's crazy. 1.00

00:43:02.420 How many total ground troops do we have in the entire American military?

00:43:09.100 I don't even know the number.

00:43:10.320 We can't even deploy 300,000 ground troops right now, period.

00:43:14.620 Yeah.

00:43:16.300 And if we do, we're going to put, you know, we're going to put, like, let's say we deployed 100.

00:43:20.280 We're going to put a third of our total ground troops in one spot.

00:43:25.300 And, I mean, the whole thing, it just doesn't even make any sense.

00:43:27.980 And don't forget the Strait of Hormuz is built like an impossible scenario.

00:43:32.040 the worst place to invade ever i mean yeah that's how they held it forever and and uh 0.78

00:43:37.580 if you think about it too this is this has the worst possible scenario for israel which means

00:43:45.560 that they're going to fight real hard to keep this thing going but at the same time if we if

00:43:51.240 everybody runs out of emergency oil reserves the the oil prices spike there's going to be shortages

00:43:56.540 if this deal doesn't happen for those that don't know i know you know this the the oil council said

00:44:01.740 $150, $200 a barrel within four weeks if this continues.

00:44:06.280 And then it's going to get much worse.

00:44:08.180 That's a depression.

00:44:10.360 Yeah.

00:44:11.040 Yeah, I saw, was he on your show or was it on Tucker?

00:44:17.140 I saw a guy say that we were going to see 36% reduction in output over the

00:44:23.300 next two, three months either way as a result of what's already happened.

00:44:28.040 Yeah, exactly.

00:44:28.980 it's already baked in for almost a year the problems and it just gets worse as we go like

00:44:33.820 they totally open today it's baked in big recession yeah i don't know what would i mean

00:44:40.780 what would you do in in terms of dealing with uh you know our greatest ally over there because

00:44:46.360 they're i mean they they painted themselves into a corner and which makes us painted into a corner

00:44:52.580 there is no other way to interpret this that i can tell other than iran's power in the region

00:44:57.740 and the world has gone up 10x now because they can always just threaten to shut down the strait.

00:45:03.460 And the longer we stay in, the better it is for them.

00:45:07.460 Yeah, which the Pentagon told Trump, don't do it.

00:45:09.360 And Israel knew that and lied to him.

00:45:11.440 And well, the IDF did, and they said, don't do it.

00:45:13.180 But the Mossad and Ben-Gavir and Netanyahu did.

00:45:16.500 That's why Trump says, I've lost a lot of respect for Israeli hardliners.

00:45:19.540 Yeah, because you let them con you. 0.61

00:45:21.880 It doesn't let you out of it.

00:45:22.960 We understand you didn't start the thing.

00:45:24.900 You know, you're not the most guilty, and it's good he's trying to pull out, but, I mean, that's all Trump can do.

00:45:33.060 Here's what Trump can do to Israel.

00:45:34.780 He's already pulled the refueling tankers.

00:45:37.280 He just says, that's it.

00:45:39.440 He has to bite the bullet.

00:45:40.840 He has to say, I'm cutting off all military aid.

00:45:43.100 Tell AIPAC, you go ahead and try to primary people, and then they will come to heel at that point, or they'll stage new 9-11.

00:45:49.140 Because you've seen all these Israeli operatives saying, oh, we need to do 9-11.

00:45:51.580 And knowing Israel's history with this particular group that is chutzpah on chutzpah, on chutzpah, I think Netanyahu will activate sleeper cells, they'll blow up some buildings of Lebanon and Iran. 0.58

00:46:02.320 And I think that's why I'm inoculating the public psychologically to be ready for that. 0.60

00:46:07.320 Yeah, and that's a good move because I think the only defense against that is to have so many people talking about it that they know that we'll see right through it.

00:46:16.700 you know did you see that story um i saw it on on glenn beck's show where the there was the dam

00:46:22.860 in mobile alabama and they were doing random totally unrelated and found an underwater

00:46:28.700 professional mine on it yes that would blow the dam and and that and they just found that by pure

00:46:34.680 luck and you're like i wonder how many of those are positioned all around the united states that

00:46:38.940 can just be if uh someone gives the order a lot probably and and israel's famous for packing uh

00:46:47.120 trojan horses and electronics not just pagers let's come back and finish up with this and then

00:46:52.520 i want to get into where's larry silverstein you think you know where he is we'll be right back

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00:51:10.660 All right, I want to finish up with Israel, 0.97

00:51:12.200 because after our guest leaves us and went back into Israel and 9-11,

00:51:15.240 because they're saying, how dare you say we had a motive?

00:51:17.100 How dare you say we were involved?

00:51:18.360 Oh, come on.

00:51:19.120 Take 10 hours to go into the evidence.

00:51:20.360 We'll hit some of it here today.

00:51:22.320 But finishing up, you also sent me some clips of British Colonel Richard Kemp at this big Jewish conference last weekend that Mark Levin and Netanyahu were at.

00:51:32.400 And at the same conference, the Israeli ambassador to the U.S., and I said that on purpose, Huckabee says, I'd rather live in Israel than the U.S.

00:51:40.900 And I think Trump may fire me any day.

00:51:43.000 So they're really, you got Levin saying, Trump, how dare you bully Israel?

00:51:46.780 The arrogance of that.

00:51:47.740 But here's Richard Kemp saying he's happy to be a goy, which means, I guess, a cattle or a subhuman servant.

00:51:53.500 And then I have at the World Jewish Conference another billionaire saying the same thing. 0.94

00:51:56.960 So this is this new thing they're doing. 0.94

00:51:58.640 And I don't want to be on the Israel beat.

00:52:00.100 I don't want to be attacking Israel.

00:52:01.120 I know this isn't all of you either. 0.56

00:52:02.720 But, I mean, Israel's really gone on crazy town megalomania behavior.

00:52:07.480 Here's a clip.

00:52:09.580 I speak as a goy, a mere goy. 1.00

00:52:12.000 the Jews were put on the face of the earth

00:52:17.080 to be a light unto nations

00:52:18.900 and Israel is being that light

00:52:22.400 in defence of its own country

00:52:24.900 and I think most particularly

00:52:27.120 not just in military technology

00:52:28.780 but in the way in which those extraordinary

00:52:31.240 men and women of the IDF

00:52:33.180 have shown the world how to fight

00:52:36.000 and many countries in Western Europe

00:52:38.320 which are going to face this violence

00:52:39.720 will be looking to Israel

00:52:41.880 to see how they're going to fight.

00:52:43.940 So the narrative is one thing,

00:52:45.400 but action, I think, is even more important. 0.94

00:52:52.460 Why should Zionism be an idea and a goal 0.85

00:52:56.020 that only Jews can embrace?

00:52:58.740 I'm a Goy, and I'm a Zionist.

00:53:02.020 With all my heart, out of conviction, and with passion.

00:53:06.300 First, we need a zero-tolerance policy

00:53:10.400 towards open hatred of Jews.

00:53:15.200 All anti-Semites, in word and deed,

00:53:18.080 regardless of their origin, 0.99

00:53:20.900 must be expelled wherever legally possible.

00:53:24.580 British politician and Conservative Party leader

00:53:27.180 Kami Werdenhock put it clearly and courageously,

00:53:30.980 I quote, anything that's inciting violence against Jews

00:53:35.580 has got to go, quote end.

00:53:38.040 We need this statement and its consequences, not only in Britain, but in every democratic term.

00:53:42.420 That's the CEO of Axel Springer, a billionaire.

00:53:44.200 I'm not going to go into the whole thing.

00:53:45.360 He says we've got to censor everybody, silence everybody.

00:53:48.380 They have the head of the World Jewish Conference this month ago saying we're losing.

00:53:51.800 We spent billions of dollars propagandizing the Americans and they hate us more

00:53:55.360 because you're out in the open trying to run things and running things and primarying people

00:53:59.620 and then saying you're bullying us.

00:54:01.380 How dare you?

00:54:02.080 Where do you see this ending? 0.95

00:54:03.820 Where do you see an off-ramp for Israel?

00:54:05.380 I think Trump should back Netanyahu's opposition.

00:54:08.040 What do you think?

00:54:09.400 Yeah, I mean, the whole thing, like, I got, I have nothing but love for everybody.

00:54:14.400 Everybody.

00:54:15.200 I got no, I got no conflict with anyone except for when specific decisions and actions that

00:54:21.680 are being taken are clearly in opposition to positive outcomes for the United States.

00:54:29.100 and you know and obviously if they cross over into you know barbaric behavior that's hurting

00:54:35.180 women and children and so like you know this the but that thing about the i'm just a goy thing is

00:54:41.500 just so i just thought it's so bizarre who would like who would who would open a speech like that

00:54:46.760 and it's like just be normal man like is that required of you to speak in that is in that

00:54:52.580 environment you have to say something like that it's super weird but if you know if that represents

00:54:58.020 and ideology that leads to you know why they i don't know why they why they behave the way that

00:55:05.220 they do that could explain a lot of it but well let's say what it is i mean let's say what it is

00:55:09.440 this is public bootlicking sorry go ahead oh yeah no exactly absolutely and you know it's it's no

00:55:16.100 different than uh then you know that you want to talk about the woke reich you know where they're

00:55:20.440 like oh the woke reich it's like it's that is nearly identical they have the same exact tactics 0.57

00:55:26.180 as the far left did during the 2020 all the black lives matter so it's all the same they call them

00:55:32.220 names they make people come out and act like that you know they get the fbi agents all take a knee

00:55:37.560 back then it's just uh it's like you would think that they would have been paying attention during

00:55:42.740 uh covid and recognize like this does not work anymore this is the opposite of effective it is

00:55:48.260 going to be a huge negative effect on whatever you're trying to do it doesn't work everybody

00:55:53.080 recognizes it instantly it's bad for business you know i've been on here 32 years before there

00:55:58.440 was social media before people were most people were even really on the internet or you really

00:56:02.060 wasn't much news on the internet you couldn't really find news it was mainly just little

00:56:06.860 you know silly pictures and you go to a website and click on things and a parrot would talk to

00:56:12.760 you i mean it was just but as it developed people would always ask people who are you paid by i

00:56:20.000 I mean, what agenda are you on?

00:56:21.780 And that's because I learned most talk shows back at the time were bought and paid for.

00:56:26.020 There was a lot of control who could get on air and what was happening.

00:56:28.600 I kind of showed up right when the Internet was finally getting more ubiquitous.

00:56:31.900 So I was able to break out kind of under the radar.

00:56:35.760 But so when you see all these different influencers, a lot of other people, they they are part of a camp where they're controlled by their sponsors.

00:56:41.600 But there are more and more people who aren't.

00:56:43.900 And I think that's people like Jesse on fire.

00:56:45.860 And that's really scaring the system.

00:56:47.860 And we're not right wing.

00:56:49.260 We're not left wing.

00:56:49.900 I mean, I'm a populist in modern parlance, you could say conservative, but I'm more of a Thomas Jefferson guy who's a classical liberal.

00:56:56.900 These terms really don't mean anything.

00:56:58.240 Are you for more human freedom and liberty or less?

00:57:00.640 Are you pro-team humanity or pro-globalist? 0.78

00:57:03.020 And I've always tried to cover all the big power structures and groups trying to take American liberty, like the communist Chinese, big tech. 0.82

00:57:09.600 Israel's always been there trying to control our foreign policy. 0.71

00:57:12.560 The leftist Jewish lobby trying to censor, but there was other groups doing it. 0.77

00:57:15.980 But now, in closing on Israel, I want to move to this other topic, it really is in the Defense Authorization Act to integrate and merge and be given all of our intelligence and all of our weapons and profit from it as if it co-owns us.

00:57:28.600 I mean, it's a merger.

00:57:29.660 It's a marriage.

00:57:31.040 It's an integration.

00:57:32.060 It's a fusion.

00:57:32.840 These are terms they use.

00:57:34.280 And then experts have looked at it and said, no, that's what it does.

00:57:36.080 And the Senate Intelligence Bill copies it.

00:57:38.440 They've got 15 bills that do this.

00:57:40.280 That's an attempted coup.

00:57:41.900 And Netanyahu says that's his answer to Congress wanting to cut the money.

00:57:44.540 and then primarying people.

00:57:46.400 So I was asking, you got cut off by the break,

00:57:48.160 and I was interrupting with something you were previously saying,

00:57:50.740 but what is Israel's offering?

00:57:52.760 Because I want to be clear, you've got all the former Mossad chiefs,

00:57:55.720 most of their top generals, they're on Israeli TV saying,

00:57:58.380 look, this will destroy Israel in the end.

00:58:00.060 If you think out, they're going to take Lebanon, 0.88

00:58:02.240 they're going to attack Turkey, they want to go out. 0.91

00:58:04.520 It's like a fat person at a buffet who orders like 20 plates. 0.99

00:58:08.620 You might eat 10 plates, you can't eat 30.

00:58:11.800 And if you're a person who says geopolitics, military, and you listen to even the other experts, they're saying this is a disaster.

00:58:19.000 Now Trump knows he got bravadoed and chutzpahed into this.

00:58:23.200 That's admitted.

00:58:24.040 Now he's pissed and he lost respect for Netanyahu and people.

00:58:27.300 OK, then get on the off ramp.

00:58:32.480 But leaving Trump out of it and then back to Trump, how does Israel off ramp this?

00:58:38.680 Is there any hope of that?

00:58:39.680 And how does Trump off rampant in closing?

00:58:41.880 And then we'll move to the last topic.

00:58:44.440 Honestly, I have no idea.

00:58:46.000 I mean, the reason I never spoke about this region until the Iran war was because I didn't I don't like talking about things where I don't feel like I have like a full throttle, you know, 360 degree understanding of of a topic.

00:59:00.000 And over there, I'm like, I don't know enough to talk about this. 0.70

00:59:02.940 It was only when Trump got us into the Iran war like that was it all through the Epstein stuff.

00:59:09.680 I was very, very consistent that I'm like, I don't think Trump is dirty on Epstein in the way that they are saying that he is.

00:59:17.180 I don't see it that you have the attorney who represented the 234 victims in the 2004 case, and all of them said Trump was – if they even interacted with him, that he was a gentleman and kind to them and had no – his hands weren't dirty at all.

00:59:32.520 The lawyer confirmed that, and so I'm like, what?

00:59:34.660 He just didn't touch any of these ones when he was best friends with him.

00:59:37.360 He's doing other stuff.

00:59:38.280 It doesn't make any sense to me.

00:59:39.680 But as soon as he attacked Iran, that's when I went rip and did a complete and total flip because that was as crystal clear as you could possibly be.

00:59:48.620 That was the core foreign policy promise, no foreign wars. 0.82

00:59:53.840 And you attacked Iran.

00:59:55.300 And so then you have to start looking around.

00:59:56.840 You're like, why did he do this?

00:59:57.960 And it turns out it's confirmed he was never even briefed on the Strait of Hormuz, which I saw you even before the war started saying Strait of Hormuz will be closed, which everyone knew.

01:00:06.640 He didn't even have the basic understanding.

01:00:09.680 and you gotta ask how is that even possible you know how does that happen and as soon as they

01:00:17.560 close the straight i i remember instantaneously having a conversation someone a lot smarter than

01:00:22.420 me and i'm like this is checkmate right and he's like yeah it's checkmate i mean you knew immediately

01:00:26.780 it's like this is checkmate there's the how how are we going to solve this problem without boots

01:00:32.700 on the ground which has always been a huge you know red line i mean i guess the the attack in

01:00:38.000 In the first place, it was a red line.

01:00:38.900 But boots on the ground is a real red line.

01:00:41.040 Well, it's the red line because the Pentagon said next it'll be ground troops straight to Hormuz.

01:00:45.580 They told him.

01:00:46.760 He just, oh, he told Tucker last time they talked about three weeks in.

01:00:50.040 He goes, don't worry.

01:00:50.640 It always ends up okay.

01:00:51.700 Anything I do.

01:00:53.280 Well, it's not.

01:00:54.620 By the way, Tucker's on tomorrow at 1 p.m.

01:00:56.660 It's not ending.

01:00:58.160 It's not ending the way Netanyahu told him.

01:01:00.540 And Netanyahu knew they were suckering to send a full quagmire regime change.

01:01:05.160 They knew it was going to cause a world economic problem.

01:01:07.420 but Israel pig-headedly didn't care yep and one thing I could say is that when when Trump gets

01:01:17.320 into a position where people are being critical of him he he starts to kind of spaz out and he

01:01:22.160 starts saying things that he shouldn't very very quickly like example where they're calling him a 0.99

01:01:26.880 pussy so he says well listen I had no choice we only have four weeks of emergency global oil 0.99

01:01:31.500 reserves and you're like why would you have told Iran that why would you tell them that now they 0.99

01:01:36.460 have like the leverage to now they know you have no choice they can do whatever they want the other

01:01:41.760 thing that he did early on that was similar to that was when japan and uh and the united states

01:01:46.940 were at that summit and the japan uh chancellor uh whatever was like why didn't you tell it i'm

01:01:52.920 sorry the journalist was like why didn't you tell japan that you were thinking about doing this

01:01:56.480 and he's like why didn't you tell us that you were going to do pearl harbor and i was like

01:02:01.380 dude that's our ally that's 97 percent reliant on on middle eastern oil how do you think that's

01:02:07.760 going to translate into japanese in the newspapers and it was like a you know his poll went down like 0.99

01:02:12.760 i don't know a million percent instantaneously it's like this is dumb you know it's just a dumb 0.90

01:02:16.900 thing to say and for those that don't know the japanese particularly face saving they've always 0.94

01:02:21.220 said we're the boss basically did whatever we said because into their system we beat them so

01:02:25.460 they had to sit there and go along with it but then you don't rub it in 80 years later they took

01:02:30.180 that as a rubbing in not as a little cutesy joke about yeah you snuck attack us and you know plus

01:02:35.180 he's saying and i committed the crime you did ha ha which was also dishonorable and they just don't

01:02:40.160 even know how to interface with it they don't even know how to deal with it but what about the other

01:02:43.340 statements uh are you concerned about the pain american households are feeling no i don't think

01:02:47.960 about anybody's pain any individual american's pain i only think about war we're in a war now

01:02:52.980 or i don't care about medicare and medicaid or health care or child care we're in a war or sir

01:02:58.140 what about inflation is really high i love inflation he acts more and more like a baby

01:03:03.120 yep and those kind of comments too you just got to ask yourself it's like they the the media has

01:03:09.860 done such a good job about making you know things like medicaid medicare about uh you know some

01:03:15.680 kind of political partisan divide where if you are not in one of these camps this is just common

01:03:21.600 sense you're like how much are we spending to go and destroy infrastructure and things over there

01:03:28.020 you're and and we're complaining about what's i'm sorry what was the cost that i was reading about

01:03:33.560 that's this huge line item that we need to cut to give poor people basic health care it's like

01:03:38.780 it doesn't make any sense well exactly just the inflation is killing the recovery it's costing us

01:03:43.480 in the aggregate trillions exactly and and then we're talking about tens of billions shortfall

01:03:48.980 here and look we do have to change it we do have to innovate we do have to cut some things

01:03:53.220 but you don't right before midterm go screw your medicare and medicaid and i don't care if you're

01:03:57.760 in pain i mean it's like if the dnc was sitting around and saying if we can mind control trump

01:04:03.100 what will we have him say to make them lose have him start a war with iran destroy the economy

01:04:07.440 say he doesn't care about the average american's economic peril say you you love inflation and say

01:04:13.320 you don't care about medicare and medicaid and then i throw in there that uh if you care about

01:04:18.460 the epstein crime then i don't want you as a supporter that's a good one and epstein's a hoax

01:04:24.540 and yeah it's a democrat hoax yep and then you and i are supposed to then who've been trump 0.75

01:04:31.420 supporters in the past better democrats we're the traitors qatari agents because we're saying 0.65

01:04:36.360 this is a horrible idea but we're vindicated now but the uh trump worshippers maybe 30 of his base 0.97

01:04:42.320 that's left they don't care they think if they just agree with him it that it's magic it's like

01:04:47.340 stuff and everything's gonna be okay it's not okay no and they get i mean anytime that i'm soft

01:04:54.520 on my critique compared to lots of other people i just go why like perfect example when i said

01:04:59.980 why would you have said that we only have four weeks of emergency global oil reserves into a

01:05:04.740 microphone at g7 there is no 40 chess here that's just an absolute political strategic negotiating

01:05:11.900 blunder of epic historic proportions and it's like saying in the last that's just what it is

01:05:17.840 it's like at the end of a poker game and saying i don't have any cards yeah here i'm all in and i

01:05:25.180 got nothing that's 3d chess bro you didn't know that yeah yeah and then coming over the top with

01:05:35.760 that uh a if they don't sign then we're just going to invade the straight up removes like

01:05:39.480 Like, you know, all in, have nothing.

01:05:42.100 And then you just show them your cards face up.

01:05:43.980 You're like, go ahead, call if you want.

01:05:46.040 You know, just makes no sense.

01:05:47.700 Makes no sense.

01:05:51.320 And, well, here's the deal.

01:05:53.120 He's 80 years old.

01:05:54.200 He doesn't sleep.

01:05:56.840 And I don't want to say he's got dementia, but, I mean, it's out of control.

01:06:02.700 And, well, what is your prognosis for the midterms?

01:06:05.360 Because that's why I'm so mad.

01:06:07.600 I want Trump to succeed.

01:06:08.840 So we got Trump over here kind of flailing around.

01:06:12.220 He's like a light bulb going out.

01:06:13.500 It kind of brightens for a minute, and then it goes out, and it's even brighter.

01:06:17.460 So I'm like, oh, look, it's bright.

01:06:18.500 Oh, it's dark.

01:06:19.340 And meanwhile, the Democrats are like, we're in a big tank,

01:06:22.920 and there's a wall with another tank of starving piranhas on the other side.

01:06:27.320 And I'm sitting there.

01:06:29.280 Trump's outside the tank, and he can open it up.

01:06:31.400 It's locked.

01:06:31.700 He's like, please, let me out of the tank.

01:06:33.420 He's like, nope, not let me out of the tank.

01:06:35.160 And then I'm watching the clock, and the piranha gate's going to open,

01:06:37.860 them we're all gonna get eaten i mean that's how i see i mean i i that's exactly how i feel because

01:06:43.240 i i mean there is no scenario under any circumstances that i would vote for the dnc

01:06:50.060 candidates i mean like what's his name um uh in in new york that oh my god whatever's in

01:06:55.460 yeah mondani they just passed a it passed a law in new york that uh it was another one of these

01:07:02.660 like uh woke like like um like gender things they just did it and you're like what are they yeah 0.96

01:07:07.260 they're going they're going bankrupt and hundreds of millions of dollars to cut penises off

01:07:11.120 yeah and then you got like uh you just five minutes ago in my mind i was locked in my house 0.96

01:07:18.380 and i had people telling my kids they had to put masks on or else they couldn't go to school

01:07:22.160 and they had to take shots we left that's why we live in texas we left california because

01:07:26.280 they they took our kids medical exemptions away on their vaccines because my oldest had been

01:07:32.740 injured and both my my wife and i had had you know we went through all this genetic testing

01:07:36.780 And they literally made our legal medical exemptions illegal all at once.

01:07:43.400 Every single person with medical exemptions, their kid's gone.

01:07:44.540 You have a doctor saying, anybody damaged by a vaccine, they'll tell you, never take one again.

01:07:48.900 I know people this happened to.

01:07:50.020 I didn't know what happened to you.

01:07:50.880 You're like, I have a medical doctor saying no to it. 0.99

01:07:52.800 They're like, screw you. 0.99

01:07:53.640 We own your body. 1.00

01:07:54.640 Yeah.

01:07:55.540 Your kids have to take all 50 of these or else they can't go to school, private school, public school, whatever.

01:08:00.840 So we just bounced.

01:08:01.700 Well, that's why so many people I use cat turd who's on X.

01:08:04.500 People aren't on X to know who he is.

01:08:05.820 He just worships anything Trump says.

01:08:07.260 Every mistake is godlike.

01:08:08.900 You know, everybody that's right is wrong.

01:08:11.200 I think people like that are just starstruck, and they just know Trump's better than Democrats,

01:08:15.100 so they just think cheerleading will make him succeed. 1.00

01:08:17.320 No, you have to get on his ass to keep Mark Levin and them from controlling his brain. 1.00

01:08:21.540 So now Trump sounds just like you and I. 1.00

01:08:23.540 The straits closed.

01:08:24.320 We've got to end it.

01:08:25.120 Lost a lot of faith for the Israel hardliners.

01:08:27.360 They were wrong.

01:08:28.120 We've got to off-ramp. 0.99

01:08:29.300 Israel better start appreciating us. 0.99

01:08:30.800 We're the only ones saving you. 0.97

01:08:32.400 That's what I've been saying.

01:08:34.000 And then do I get an apology? 0.99

01:08:35.660 and I'm not singling him out, but just Cat Turd's kind of the gold standard of idiocy. 0.94

01:08:38.840 Do I get an apology from him that your Lord and Savior now sounds just like me, Cat Turd? 0.96

01:08:42.420 No, I don't.

01:08:43.660 I was trying to save your Lord and Savior.

01:08:45.820 I was trying to get your Lord and Savior to stop it.

01:08:49.360 Yeah, you get to differentiate at least between the MAGA loyalists

01:08:54.300 who are going to back Trump all the time

01:08:55.820 or the make-believe ones that are going to back Israel all the time. 0.67

01:08:59.120 Now you can figure out who's who at least. 0.92

01:09:00.920 You know what I mean?

01:09:01.560 Well, that's it.

01:09:02.460 anybody now going anybody now for this war is openly israeli operative yeah which we know

01:09:09.740 they've spent 500 million dollars last year they just earmarked a month ago 768 million more for

01:09:17.460 paying influencers so when you see this mindless crap and you know people all arrest anyone that 0.68

01:09:24.200 criticizes a pack that laura loomer you know or censor everybody i mean come on laura or it's 0.97

01:09:30.320 Like, I don't work for Israel.

01:09:31.600 Mark Levin, I don't work for Israel. 1.00

01:09:33.380 Bull crap, bro. 1.00

01:09:35.120 What do you make of that? 1.00

01:09:36.980 Same.

01:09:37.760 I mean, it's obvious.

01:09:38.780 Again, it's easy to identify now because there is, I mean, especially, again,

01:09:43.740 the four weeks of oil reserves, as soon as he says that at G7,

01:09:46.840 you are like, there is no conversation here. 0.56

01:09:50.040 Israel needs to stop bombing Lebanon now, obviously, 0.87

01:09:53.380 so that we can get this deal done. 0.94

01:09:54.660 And if you are saying something different, I mean, explain yourself.

01:09:58.380 why is that why is that figure that he just announced not so overwhelmingly concerning to

01:10:03.260 you that it trumps every other possible consideration i agree here's another analogy

01:10:07.460 let's say you're in round three ufc and you get knocked down ding ding ding the bell but the

01:10:13.820 referee doesn't know that the guy hit you and suddenly you've gone blind let's just say from

01:10:17.300 a concussion and you don't tell your corner you've gone blind you're going to get back up and get

01:10:21.200 hurt even worse but trump essentially went over to the referee and said i can't see i've got but

01:10:25.720 but, but, but didn't say I tap out. Doesn't matter. You tell the rep,

01:10:29.800 I can't see. He's going to go. That's it. Call the fight saying, Oh,

01:10:33.100 we're out of oil. They win, which they already know that.

01:10:36.420 But the point is, why would you say it? I know why you go back to this.

01:10:39.140 It's so crazy. It's fundamentally the opposite of good strategy.

01:10:43.580 Yeah. It's, it's like a negotiating one-on-one. This would be like,

01:10:47.340 they could, they could,

01:10:48.820 they could write an entire chapter in a book using this as the example of how

01:10:52.740 to you know in the art of war if you're weak you act strong and if you're strong you you know if

01:10:58.040 you want to potentially trap them when you're strong you act weak but you know when you're weak

01:11:02.800 which we are because we're about to run out of oil you don't tell everyone in the world that we

01:11:08.280 are as weak as we've ever been because you can't run society at all without oil and we only have

01:11:13.160 four we're going to run out in four weeks it's like four weeks like that well it's like they

01:11:18.440 have books about how to win friends and influence people this new book trump's writing is the art

01:11:22.940 of the deal it's the art of destroying yourself and your country very quickly yeah we got to get

01:11:28.800 the deal done all right let's go ahead i was just gonna say i saw something before i came on though

01:11:34.380 that uh it sounds again this did come from a uh very heavily maga positive uh x account but they

01:11:41.160 did say that uh jd vance had just gotten uh iran to agree that part of their part of the funds that

01:11:47.620 were going to get uh released to them was now going to be able to be spent on american farm

01:11:52.260 products so like they were going to be buying food from us oh yeah and also if that's if that's 0.80

01:11:56.780 accurate that's like worst case scenario from for is the worst case for israel would be us having a

01:12:01.840 good relationship with iran out of this no i agree and and iran has confirmed they're saying they will

01:12:05.800 take inspectors they're not going to enrich the weapons grade so that's another big announcement

01:12:09.560 all right let's look at this people can't stop debating these comparisons jesse on fire on x

01:12:15.140 and i've seen this guy for a month they say he's jeffrey i've seen he looks about 95 percent like

01:12:20.840 him you look at the teeth and they can see him what would the point be of him parading around

01:12:24.360 in palm beach tell us about this guy honestly i mean i when i looked at the so i thought i saw

01:12:33.320 that that you know there's there's all kinds of stuff out on him and i just wasn't even paying

01:12:37.100 attention and i saw the i saw the tiktok where the person had the comparison of the teeth and i

01:12:43.380 looked at the lower teeth and I looked at it. I'm like, okay, well, I can't verify that this is

01:12:49.040 actually Palm Beach Pete's teeth and that this is actually Jeffrey Epstein's teeth. So I didn't

01:12:54.240 think a lot about it, but then I had someone who I know personally who went to the Aiden Ross

01:13:00.580 fight. You know, the Aiden Ross put on that big fight where Mennery fought against Johnny Manziel

01:13:07.760 and he spent a very long time with palm beach pete off camera and he was like listen dude he's like

01:13:14.760 i'm telling you he's not even hiding the ball it's him and i was like really he's like he wanted me

01:13:20.420 to know and he's you know he told me some specific stories i'm like out the guy but when he said that

01:13:25.520 i was like i i'm like okay so let me actually take a look at this then you know because i know this

01:13:29.680 guy and so i then went and took i went and sourced the two pictures you know and since palm beach pete

01:13:37.460 had the teeth comparison go viral since then he has done like a dozen posts where he gives an

01:13:44.400 absolutely perfect view of his bottom teeth on purpose and the very first one that he did was

01:13:51.020 he puts himself in a dentist chair he's all hey guys where in the world is Palm Beach Pete I'm

01:13:55.240 here getting my teeth fixed so no one compares my teeth to that really bad guy you know who I'm

01:13:59.680 talking about so I went into some of the the public uh you know Epstein pictures it's very

01:14:06.060 hard to find a photograph of epstein's uh bottom teeth but there's one and i found it and i found

01:14:11.300 it in like a dot org you know like that's that's the picture the one on the left and when you look

01:14:18.340 the only you know he's had he's had him shaved down but if you just look at the numbers it's like

01:14:23.760 number one is forward on both of them number two is is back on both of them the two in the middle

01:14:28.960 it looks like they've had he's had some invisalign and those are improved a little bit but then the

01:14:33.900 other ones they are identical forward and back and then i was like i wonder if anybody's looked

01:14:39.040 at his ears because that's how you knew the corpse was not him you know from the original

01:14:43.920 announcement like oh here's epstein's corpse and you look at the ear like okay that's not him

01:14:47.340 and so when i looked and i i did research on what can be changed with plastic surgery and what can't

01:14:53.940 and the center part the cartilage structures are that you can't change those but you can change

01:14:59.260 outside so i looked at the cartilage structures and i was like holy shit it's the same and so

01:15:04.740 you know i looked at that and then someone sent me another thing uh which had him you know there

01:15:09.680 was a like he he kind of had he showed the same stutter in uh an interview as palm beach feet

01:15:14.120 and another one as uh in one of his depositions as jeffrey epstein and uh and then another guy

01:15:19.840 showed me that he had you know emails where his assistant was setting up appointments with a very

01:15:24.860 prominent uh plastic surgeon in new york and i'm like holy shit it's like this is really him 0.97

01:15:30.540 and you know now when i look at his content he is it's like he knew you know he got a nose job

01:15:36.880 obviously and probably lost about 15 pounds that's like that literally is and you know he's

01:15:41.280 had a little bit of adjustment to his teeth and i'm i'm marveled by that he if i if it is him

01:15:47.060 that he knew that no one mainstream would take it seriously no matter what you pointed at it's

01:15:51.820 it's unbelievable because i look and i'm like oh my god it's like this is really him and then when

01:15:55.480 i look at his uh his post i'm not gonna lie i laugh every single time because he's so overtly

01:16:01.900 trolling people who who have figured it out that it's hilarious well there are also photos palm

01:16:06.420 beach months after he died of a guy from a drone getting out of an atvs and it looks just like

01:16:11.540 silver silverstein looks just like epstein yep at his island yep yep there's another i think i

01:16:19.940 saw another one at zorro too like the same type of thing where there's a picture you know and i

01:16:23.720 think yeah he's he's got his arms crossed on the zorro one and then i think the the one at the

01:16:27.500 island he like you know pops his head up but i don't know i mean listen i i did it and i mean i

01:16:32.600 put that whole thing together put it out and i thought that that was like uh i thought it was

01:16:37.060 a headshot i was looking you know to me i'm like this is this is a wrap and i've showed it to a lot

01:16:41.660 of really smart people they're all i don't know there's some people who are really smart all and

01:16:45.840 they're like oh yeah that's him for sure but i don't know a lot of people are still not let me

01:16:49.660 Let me back you up here.

01:16:50.200 I mean, there's no way to know for sure.

01:16:51.260 Let me back you up here, and if you can stay,

01:16:53.080 if you've got to go, I understand, but I'm going to play these clips.

01:16:55.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:16:55.280 No, we're good.

01:16:57.220 Remember that on 4chan and 8chan, they had a whistleblower

01:17:00.640 that came out like 45 minutes before it was announced anywhere

01:17:04.840 that Epstein had killed himself, but he didn't really kill himself,

01:17:08.740 and that they brought him out the back and brought another body out the front.

01:17:12.000 All that matched later.

01:17:14.200 Yep.

01:17:15.240 And then you start adding everything else to it,

01:17:17.760 and he was telling everybody, I'm getting out of here soon.

01:17:19.660 And that's the type of witness protection program they do for a CIA Mossad operative.

01:17:23.940 He was actually the head of the Tribunal Commission, it turned out.

01:17:27.100 Fort David Rockefeller is his stand-in.

01:17:28.820 That's in the document.

01:17:29.580 It's more powerful than I thought.

01:17:31.540 And so Trump wants it all shut down.

01:17:34.700 And so then you have Hillary Rodham Clinton's brother that looked just like Epstein died a few weeks before.

01:17:39.820 He's a spinning image of the body they wheel out.

01:17:42.520 You start adding all this together.

01:17:44.080 It's definitely not Epstein there.

01:17:46.640 They didn't know somebody would get a snapshot of him, of the body.

01:17:49.180 And so you add all that to this, and then all of a sudden, Kash Patel and Bongino, that had always covered what we're covering, that clearly didn't kill himself, put out videos saying it's all there.

01:17:59.560 First, it's a minute missing, then 10 minutes missing, and then it's all doctored.

01:18:03.580 Stay there.

01:18:04.060 I want to talk about this.

01:18:04.860 We know there's a cover-up.

01:18:06.120 And then it turns out Trump wants a cover-up of Butler right to the top.

01:18:11.000 And Tucker can confirm all that.

01:18:13.680 He's on tomorrow.

01:18:14.840 Because I was at Tucker's house whenever he was getting these calls about something.

01:18:17.640 He told me some of it off record, but now he's gone public.

01:18:19.360 I talk about it.

01:18:20.540 And just remember, my source was not Joe Kent about that cabinet meeting about Cash Patel saying don't look at foreign involvement in Charlie Carr.

01:18:27.500 It was other folks.

01:18:28.500 I never heard that he was.

01:18:29.540 I just heard that was just a rumor that I heard.

01:18:31.080 No, I'm not saying you're wrong.

01:18:32.280 I'm not saying he couldn't have been sourced to somebody else.

01:18:34.160 I'm just saying I had other sources.

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01:20:36.560 I know a lot of you tuned in because I said in the fourth hour today,

01:20:39.560 I was going to get into Israel in 9-11.

01:20:41.980 But here's what happened.

01:20:44.660 When I started the show, I almost tabled it till tomorrow

01:20:47.360 because I got a huge stack of evidence.

01:20:50.260 But it's, people think this is the deepest dive ever.

01:20:52.880 People always cover like one aspect.

01:20:54.200 Ooh, breaking, it's the biggest thing ever.

01:20:56.020 I was covering it back when it all happened.

01:20:58.160 I've been reviewing my books, my films, getting more clips.

01:21:01.460 And the researcher here that knows as much as I do,

01:21:03.920 Thomas works like six days a week.

01:21:05.640 He's out Mondays.

01:21:07.280 I got in this morning.

01:21:08.020 He's like, hey, where's Thomas?

01:21:08.840 I want the file.

01:21:09.560 on that they're like oh he's not here today and i'm like well i'm still gonna cover it then i'm

01:21:13.480 like yeah maybe i won't now this guest we're covering all these important issues and don't

01:21:17.820 worry about his real life we're not covering up for them that tomorrow i promise one hour on this

01:21:22.720 one hour uh in fact check the schedule with guests probably fourth hour again

01:21:27.940 and i will do an entire hour on even more like that old ad in the 70s that we will sell no wine

01:21:33.700 until it's time when i when i get over this the problem is i'll start researching and find even

01:21:37.480 more and remember even more, and then I may do two hours on it tomorrow. I don't know if you want

01:21:41.180 to listen to that, but I will get to it tomorrow, okay? It will happen. It will happen. But continuing

01:21:47.460 with the Mossad operatives, Jeffrey Epstein, also CIA, the biggest takeaway, well, there's so much

01:21:52.220 in the Epstein files is they're talking about eating people. They're talking about the sex

01:21:56.320 slaves are at the hotel. I mean, it's there. It's going on. The human cloning, the genetic 0.95

01:22:00.780 engineering, Zorro Ranch, underground base there, that's all confirmed, snorkels up at the top,

01:22:05.280 massive cover-up going on, and then you've got this guy that looks

01:22:09.420 got 95% like Epstein in Palm Beach, and I'm not saying it's Epstein, but I do think things lean

01:22:18.360 towards him staging his death, and then them just doing some cosmetic surgery on it and things.

01:22:24.780 Do we know Jesse on Fire that people can find on X at RealJesseOnFire, Instagram RealJesseOnFire,

01:22:33.060 x at real jesse on fire and youtube jesse on fire do we know who first reported on palm beach p like

01:22:40.980 when did he first service i think that's important so he i mean he popped up uh because someone was

01:22:48.780 just driving next to him supposedly and they filmed him driving in his car and then he uh

01:22:54.040 you know and it went viral like hey is this is this b it's like i mean you're talking like a

01:22:57.920 few months ago but if you if you want a perfect example of what i'm talking about about him

01:23:02.800 trolling everyone once i mean this is well after well after everybody's been talking about it being

01:23:07.380 him play that clavicular clip with sound it's super quick it's like it's like 15 seconds but

01:23:12.940 that one lawyer my shout out to clavicular play that with sound super quick let me show you the

01:23:18.660 clips i've got you on the teeth oh sorry i was eating a piece of sandwich uh the one the one

01:23:22.780 i'm talking about is number six okay here's a clip hey everybody listen up it's palm beach

01:23:28.660 pete here clav i'm a big supporter of facial reconstruction and you're getting a lot of shade

01:23:34.420 on the internet and that's not right you continue doing you i'm a big supporter peace out palm beach

01:23:40.000 pete so i get out i can't help but laugh every single time it's just so it's so like my wife

01:23:49.560 every time that she watches it she laughs and i'm and she's like yeah but i'm not convinced it's him

01:23:53.060 i'm like the whole reason it's funny is if it really is him it's hilarious like he's that

01:23:58.040 confident that nothing comes of any of this that he can just throw that on the internet

01:24:01.820 in everyone's face and then run for mayor or maybe he's just a good sport i mean i've said that i'm

01:24:06.640 bill hicks i've had probably 20 times now i've been a restaurant barton springs the last time

01:24:11.280 it happened and i'm sitting there with my it's so i mean look it's possible but you know if you

01:24:16.100 look like look if you put their their faces side by side look at his look at their chins look at

01:24:21.100 their chins because i got a nose job changes a person's face so drastically that it's kind of

01:24:27.520 So, I mean, you know, it's a gigantic change.

01:24:30.080 Have you compared his legs?

01:24:32.420 Because there's shots of Epstein in shorts.

01:24:35.100 Hey, guys, back that up to when he's walking

01:24:37.500 and let's find a shot of Epstein in shorts.

01:24:40.380 We need to look at the legs, but go ahead and play clip 64.

01:24:42.960 He's definitely lost weight.

01:24:44.040 If it is him, he's lost a lot of weight.

01:24:45.520 But the other thing, too, is I very intentionally do not even,

01:24:49.620 I've never done a lick of research into this guy at all on purpose

01:24:54.100 because if it is Epstein, I don't want any,

01:24:56.760 All I cover is stuff that they've put out.

01:24:59.240 You know, like, oh, you put this out?

01:25:00.300 I'll talk about it.

01:25:00.940 I'm not trying to research this guy. 0.95

01:25:04.160 They scare the shit out of me. 0.96

01:25:06.580 Here's Club 64. 0.97

01:25:07.560 Here it is.

01:25:08.580 Well, guys, we're in the rails of Palm Beach Peak.

01:25:10.500 Now, here's in this backyard on the beach.

01:25:12.680 And I notice there's no lounge chairs.

01:25:15.060 There's no cabana service.

01:25:16.520 When I put my hat in the roof and they're at Palm Beach,

01:25:19.120 that is going to be on my platform.

01:25:21.620 Freeze set up at the beach.

01:25:23.440 Freeze set up at every pool.

01:25:24.960 on beach for mayor is he really running for mayor yeah he is well he says he is and he also he said

01:25:35.480 that uh so that he did a lie detector test also on a podcast and they asked him he said that he

01:25:41.200 lived in new york the exact same years that epstein lived in new york he lived in palm beach

01:25:46.720 the exact same years that epstein lived in uh palm beach they asked him if he had ever been at the

01:25:51.180 same in the same place as Epstein he said that he had been at a party that Epstein was at

01:25:55.980 it's like it's it's crazy he's saying he also says he's doing a DNA test right now he's like

01:26:01.740 yeah I'm doing a DNA test so I'm gonna prove I'm not Jeffrey Epstein I'm like where would you have

01:26:05.180 gotten Jeffrey Epstein's DNA guy you know what I mean oh let me just say to my producers I want

01:26:10.120 to get Palm Beach Pete on uh I I cannot wait to watch that that'll I will watch that with an ear

01:26:16.840 ear smile do it guys uh here he is with some hot chicks you know what i don't think it's epstein

01:26:22.080 i think he's oskenazi jew new york jew uh similar genetics you know that's again that's how labrador

01:26:28.480 black labrador retriever that's of the you know best in show every every year i i'm not a huge

01:26:34.900 dog fancier but i'll try to go over my mom she likes it we'll try to watch the westminster dog

01:26:39.300 show and you'll see the black lab and it looks just like the one from the year before even though

01:26:44.080 it's not i mean it's it's it's it's it's it's inbreeding i mean i just think he's trolling

01:26:49.340 everybody maybe you're right uh maybe it is him but here it's possible here he is with some ladies

01:26:53.680 here we go guys it's palm beach peak where in the world am i now i'm with these beautiful ladies and

01:26:58.620 i'm gaming and i can't stop winning

01:27:00.640 well it's it's epstein and the ladies again that's what i'm saying

01:27:17.640 i mean listen look one thing people learn about me real fast is there's no hill that i'm gonna

01:27:23.500 die on like if it like if people are like oh i think you're wrong about this i'm like maybe

01:27:27.640 Hey, listen, stuff's so weird, I don't blame you.

01:27:30.660 I'm only covering it now because you were on as a guest.

01:27:33.060 I haven't touched it yet, even though it's been out for months, just because, you know, here's the deal.

01:27:38.460 It was declassified in the 60s.

01:27:40.080 The CIA at Plum Island brought in Nazi scientists and weaponized syphilis and called it Lyme disease and released it. 0.60

01:27:46.640 People wouldn't even believe that when I had to declassify congressional documents. 0.68

01:27:49.560 So I never got into UFOs and stuff.

01:27:51.660 You couldn't prove one or the other because people couldn't even believe it.

01:27:53.540 We have executive orders about martial law and forced labor camps in FEMA. 0.98

01:27:57.640 you know, since the 80s, people don't believe that they can go read the damn executive order 0.98

01:28:01.180 on the government website. So to me, that's why I stay away from this stuff. But I think it's 0.93

01:28:04.700 important also just to examine the phenomenon because people, it looks like a terrible day

01:28:09.200 is having, I'll tell you that. I like that champagne and what it's doing. Love that waterfall.

01:28:13.400 But seriously, love God's creations. But seriously, you can't blame anybody where

01:28:17.960 they've been lied to so much now, not believing anything they're told. That is the loss of

01:28:21.720 confidence in the system. That's the, I mean, that's the end result of all of this stuff.

01:28:27.580 That's why it's so, it's, I try really hard not to, I don't know, not to fall into the trap of just not believing anything, but it's nearly impossible because everything that comes down in an official channel ends up being either a lie or so drastically skewed in one direction that it is essentially a lie, I feel like.

01:28:45.880 And then you get cute people that can't believe everything's a lie, so they say everything's true, the good guys are secretly in control.

01:28:52.380 That's one end of delusion.

01:28:53.940 The other end is everything's fake.

01:28:55.900 Everything's a fraud.

01:28:56.700 The world is flat.

01:28:58.040 The moon is made of cheese.

01:29:00.140 Computers aren't real.

01:29:01.160 Nuclear weapons aren't real.

01:29:02.300 GPS isn't real.

01:29:03.420 We're not real.

01:29:04.580 We're a simulation.

01:29:05.720 And I'm a clone because I started working out with one of Joe Rogan's trainer buddies

01:29:11.260 and started doing intermittent fasting and over a year lost 65 pounds,

01:29:16.620 gained back about 15.

01:29:17.880 I've lost about 10 of it. 1.00

01:29:19.440 I'm five pounds from where I was, bitches. 1.00

01:29:21.760 And by the way, I'm going down an extra 20 on top of it. 0.97

01:29:25.640 So when I look like Governor Tarkin from Star Wars,

01:29:27.700 because that's what I'm going to look like,

01:29:29.100 when I get down to like 200,

01:29:32.540 people are going to flip out and say he's a clone.

01:29:36.840 Well, if I'm a clone, why is a clone suddenly skinny?

01:29:39.700 Why couldn't they make a fat clone?

01:29:41.000 And how does this clone sound just like me?

01:29:42.660 Here's the thing.

01:29:43.100 If I'm a clone, I don't know it.

01:29:45.280 Got my point?

01:29:45.760 It's flattery, man.

01:29:46.900 It's a flattery.

01:29:47.500 They said they, a bunch of people were saying that Justin Gaethje, uh, that he had to have

01:29:51.600 had like lead in his, in his, in his gloves.

01:29:54.520 And he's like, I saw him, he was on Rogan.

01:29:56.300 He's like, he's all, that's all.

01:29:57.480 He's like, that's, that's just flattering.

01:29:59.160 He's like, they say I'm on steroids.

01:30:00.800 Flattering.

01:30:01.220 They say I had no, the guy he was fighting, the guy was fighting, had his hands down,

01:30:05.080 walking straight into straight right punches in the nose.

01:30:08.820 I mean, he was dead.

01:30:10.500 Yeah.

01:30:10.640 I mean, he was, he was exhausted at the beginning of this, of the third and that straight shot

01:30:14.820 that Gaethje hit him with, like, broke his entire left orbital bone.

01:30:19.580 That break is so gnarly.

01:30:21.620 His break, it's the worst orbital bone break I've ever seen

01:30:23.720 because it goes all the way inside of the eye bone.

01:30:25.700 It was like all, and he still fought for another two rounds.

01:30:28.740 I mean, that's incredible.

01:30:30.560 Yeah, guys, pull up Gaethje.

01:30:32.980 Once we type in the X to pull up the exact, or YouTube,

01:30:36.240 what did you say, Gaethje?

01:30:38.440 Ilya Toporia.

01:30:39.820 Yeah, but it's a search.

01:30:41.380 Gaethje destroys, or what would you? 0.63

01:30:43.680 topuria t-o-p-u-r-i-a no i know he's fighting topuria or however you say it but i'm saying

01:30:50.700 the exact headline would be like gaichi destroys or something like that because i mean here's the

01:30:56.180 deal i was never a professional fighter i'm going to be the toughest guy around i've had my leg

01:30:59.200 broken to five people started fights rough growing up in dallas for a reason but i mean i've punched

01:31:03.760 somebody one time in the nose and literally torn their nose all the way off their face those aren't

01:31:08.380 even basically gloves they've got on but exactly people not believing that you could do that to

01:31:12.940 somebody's nose or break bones in the face obviously haven't punched somebody hard i mean

01:31:17.520 you can kill somebody the people who said yeah the people who said that it was rigged like that

01:31:22.380 that ilia toporia threw the fight you're all so he he just fought on for eight more minutes after 0.95

01:31:29.420 he got his orbital bone you know what finally got him talking about what finally got him was the

01:31:33.580 full power knee you see the ribs buckle yeah folks i don't know if you've ever been i mean 1.00

01:31:39.320 One time I was being an idiot. 0.96

01:31:41.340 Somebody was talking to me while I'm lifting weights, and this is back when I was still in somewhat good shape, 0.99

01:31:45.800 you know, like 15 years, 20 years ago.

01:31:47.820 And I'm at the YMCA, and this guy's, okay, yeah, I'm talking to me.

01:31:51.000 And I don't pay attention.

01:31:52.240 And it wasn't like – it was like 170 pounds or something.

01:31:54.840 It wasn't.

01:31:55.100 I was doing like 10 reps.

01:31:56.340 It slips out of my hand, hits me – all it did was separate two ribs, six weeks of pain every time I breathed.

01:32:04.720 And that was nothing compared to that knee right into the ribs, folks.

01:32:08.500 i'm surprised that guy could even get up and walk after that yeah broken ribs are there it's it

01:32:15.180 people can't you can't sleep you have to sit up it's like a broken rib is debilitating it's a

01:32:21.180 terrible recovery absolutely terrible i gotta have the clip i gotta it's everywhere when you pull it

01:32:26.000 up where's my phone i'll pull it up crew's in trouble again sorry hey let's play your report

01:32:36.380 here, and then I want to finish up with some topics. Let's play 62, your original report that

01:32:40.080 I think is the most compelling. And you did it yourself, and I trust you. You went out and got

01:32:44.180 still shots of both their teeth. And damn it, their genetics are so close because, or it's the 0.98

01:32:49.700 guy, because the way those snaggled teeth came in, the way the crowding works, the way they all 0.99

01:32:53.800 lean the exact direction. Yeah, you can say more time's gone on because this shot of Epstein,

01:33:01.000 you know, there was from years before. So yeah, it looks like some work's been done, but it looks

01:33:05.020 like the same teeth if you didn't tell me this was even Epstein another guy if you showed me

01:33:08.240 these pictures without the words I'd say yeah that's the same guy this guy's lost weight and

01:33:12.720 looks older uh which is exactly what it is okay here it is well we'll find the part I want it's

01:33:18.440 the not it it's the it's the death blows folks but I'll come in during the break I'll find what

01:33:21.920 I want it's fine um but let's go ahead and play this report here it is you can see Palm Beach

01:33:26.780 Pete's lower teeth being compared supposedly to Jeffrey Epstein's lower teeth and they appear to

01:33:33.380 be an exact match. So in case anyone thought that this was not real, here are the two photos.

01:33:39.900 Actually, this is actually even a better photo than the one that was used in the Facebook post.

01:33:44.760 And as you can see, the teeth are identical. Okay. So that should be the end of the conversation

01:33:50.820 right there. Like what if we were going to go ahead and look at the ear? First, let's take a

01:33:54.520 quick look at somebody who appears to have had a plastic surgery procedure on their ear. You're

01:33:58.200 looking at pre-op on the left and post-op on the right. So here's some of the things that can be

01:34:02.200 changed through plastic surgery ear lobe size and or stretching fold shape more importantly these are

01:34:08.840 things that cannot be changed very complex cartilage structure biggest limitation is cartilage

01:34:14.440 memory you look at things like this you can't fake these things look at my ear do you see anything

01:34:19.880 that resembles a feature like that no no you do not that is a huge unique feature you also

01:34:27.320 can go ahead and look at things like this and this, the shape right there. And if you look

01:34:33.940 around the other features like the fold right here versus the fold right here, if I take these

01:34:39.580 off so that you can see even more clearly, this line right here and this space right here

01:34:46.420 is identical right here. So what would happen if we compared the ears of Epstein and Palm Beach

01:34:53.540 pete right oh you just did now a sane person would think that that has to be the big finale

01:35:05.680 but it's not so if you're not convinced yet buckle up we're not done yet epstein was advised to use

01:35:10.800 plastic surgery to evade being caught in unearthed email it's actually a series of emails where his

01:35:16.120 assistant was setting up appointments with a prominent new york plastic surgeon in 2018 right

01:35:21.080 before he was arrested it's one of the emails this is from leslie groff to nyu plastic surgery

01:35:25.360 for big e paperwork for big e appointment on july 11th 2018 attached please find the paperwork for

01:35:32.480 big e his appointment is tomorrow wednesday july 9th if you need anything else please do not

01:35:37.220 hesitate to ask please do confirm receipt of this email now obviously connecting him to a plastic

01:35:41.800 surgeon in preparation for having to go on the run is a massive piece of evidence but there's one

01:35:46.960 more huge piece that we're going to look at in this video what if i told you that both palm beach

01:35:51.580 pete and jeffrey epstein have an involuntary speech pattern that they can't help but make

01:35:57.940 and it's identical what would that do for you let's check it out own business and some knucklehead

01:36:03.800 films me as perpetrating one of the largest frauds films me frauds films me frauds and by the way i

01:36:12.300 independently verified that both of those clips are real there's no way to know for sure is what

01:36:16.020 someone who didn't want to either die or get sued would say so there's no way for me to know for

01:36:20.780 sure all right so there you go we'll table this i want to get palm beach peed on great producers

01:36:25.780 please get that done but since we mentioned it more than just breaking his nose and his orbital

01:36:30.720 bone with like three punches straight in uh which you know basically won the fight then didn't knock

01:36:35.960 him out but you know set the state i call that a death blow uh i don't use the current terms i'm

01:36:40.440 not a cool sports guy like everybody else i know everybody else is religious about names and terms

01:36:43.360 everything my point is the blows that win the fight the grievous wounds but the one that really

01:36:47.660 beats him he clearly when he can barely get up and walk and then says i can't do it and throws

01:36:51.660 in the towel is is this this knee uh so this isn't this isn't lead in his knee folks so the knee and

01:36:59.160 and a thrust like that's probably what five ten times more powerful than a punch full power into

01:37:04.980 his ribs i'd be surprised if those ribs weren't broken here it is he's in serious pain from that

01:37:12.120 I couldn't see it.

01:37:14.420 Yeah, but it's always the same.

01:37:16.020 Once we have a vortex that starts here, we can't have what we want.

01:37:19.240 That's why we're going to back it up again, and we're going to show it again.

01:37:21.700 Go ahead and show it.

01:37:23.340 Like a good entry.

01:37:24.320 Oh, it's the ball.

01:37:27.040 Big knee, big knee.

01:37:28.180 It's not right there.

01:37:29.260 That was Pete Vito.

01:37:30.780 And he punches him in the same spot.

01:37:32.980 I will assure you, I'm surprised he didn't even get up.

01:37:37.420 Big knee, big knee, big knee.

01:37:38.640 Oh, my God.

01:37:40.040 he's in serious pain from that shot that's that bottom floating rib too and that you know like

01:37:46.140 that's right where you would uh either like kidney or liver i mean ilia almost finished uh

01:37:53.300 finished gaethje in the second with that with that body shot that uh that buckled gaethje if

01:37:57.500 he wasn't so tough like almost i mean no one comes back from look at how the lead in his gloves

01:38:02.080 allowed him to do a double backflip too yeah yeah man the lead in the gloves did you know you can

01:38:08.400 Fly, have you have lead in your gloves as well?

01:38:10.280 Folks, back that up again.

01:38:11.580 Look at the lead in his gloves when he kicks him in the rib, the floating rib,

01:38:16.520 and you see the ribs just crunkle and all the muscles came in.

01:38:19.600 Look at the power of how he cheated, and the reps let him use lead in his gloves.

01:38:23.480 Right there, the lead in the gloves is what did that.

01:38:27.540 Do you believe this?

01:38:28.120 Everybody who's ever fought Gaethje has said no one has ever hit them harder than he did.

01:38:34.940 Everyone.

01:38:35.260 and and again the lead allows him to do this back flip look at this look at the lead the power of

01:38:41.100 the lead lead is incredible yeah all right i'm being silly brother thank you for being here

01:38:50.460 you're going to come in and guest host sometime people can find your show uh i know you do live

01:38:55.120 shows at night you also almost every day release videos right i do on uh yeah i do on uh on youtube

01:39:01.800 is where all of my long form stuff goes and then uh you know we we put some of the long form stuff

01:39:06.120 on facebook and whatever and then shorts on x and instagram but yeah uh youtube is the primary

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