00:00:00.000In January, in the middle of January, we did a set of polls that I'm confident in the results.
00:00:05.160And I know that they got to the White House and they were being looked at.
00:00:08.280And the most important question was, would you approve or disapprove of the United States using its military to help overthrow the Ayatollah in Iran?
00:00:18.320And in my opinion, that's a very fair question.
00:00:24.260It was only 17% strongly approved, 21% somewhat, and then 47% were disapproving, and only 28% of Republicans strongly approved.
00:00:34.460So there was not a burning desire to do this.
00:00:36.880Now, the problem is, is that you could cherry pick things to show Donald Trump if you wanted a strike in Iran.
00:00:42.280And I think a lot of people were probably doing that.
00:00:44.660Things like between 80% and 90% of America says, yeah, we should attack Iran to take out their nuclear programs.
00:00:49.900But the problem is when that like obviously to people who are involved in politics will become what the world focuses on for the next three or four months, when what we should be doing is using the last opportunity for Trump's legislative agenda.
00:01:03.060That was what this strike, in my opinion, filled the gap of. Like we were talking about Congress laying out their 2026 legislative agenda and then we're bombing Iran at the expense of the domestic policy agenda that America was begging for and crawling over broken glass to get.
00:01:21.480they literally can't put food on their table and then we replace it with something that is going
00:01:27.420to have continued ramifications that we cannot yet foresee on the global economic situation
00:01:32.600and then also our strength on the world stage as a superpower like are we going to even have
00:01:39.440bases in the middle east right now if they could just be hit at will that was my next question
00:01:44.140that was my next question part of the iranian deal they want is all of us to leave our bases
00:01:48.120and Trump would never do that, but they've already had to flee most of the bases
00:01:52.360and the ships have had to pull back 500 miles.
00:01:54.700So essentially, Iran is winning this and an Israeli minister, as I played it last hour,
00:02:00.040joking, saying, great, we finally got America to fight our battles.
00:02:02.800Now we can grab Syria and Lebanon acting like supervillains
00:02:06.360and then a regurgitation of what the Pentagon told Trump one week before Israel struck and drug us in.
00:02:11.580Washington Post, Trump's been given unanimous intel that the mullahs aren't going to fall
00:02:24.180I care about George Gallup's idea of what polling really should be,
00:02:27.880which is like the referee in a democracy.
00:02:30.660And so if I get surprising results that say something bad about what's going on
00:02:35.760and like trying to predict the future and things are going to be bad in future elections,
00:02:39.780somebody that cares about the voter and cares about the Trump agenda
00:02:42.920and the things that he was going to do to fix America would scream.
00:02:46.360loudly, doing something wrong, warning, like stop attacking your base, stop contradicting people on
00:02:52.320the affordability crisis, stop going long, 600,000 Chinese students, like these are incongruous
00:02:58.320with your base. And it's like when you're just looking at Trump approval, and he's at 47. And
00:03:04.460then a month later, he's at 44. It's easy to look at that and say, well, it's not like really a big
00:03:09.980deal. But at the end of the day, when you're attacking your base, when you're betraying people,
00:03:14.740you're really chipping away at your enthusiasm irregardless of what happens i think what you're
00:03:20.100going to see after the midterms is a natural um like loss of political capital of trump people
00:03:26.660are already talking about that happening just because the way that he's talking about the iran
00:03:31.300strike seems to be the kind of thing that you would do if you just want to like like make
00:03:36.560everybody tired of you like how many times are we going to unleash unstoppable hell on iran between
00:03:41.280now in the midterms. People are just going to get tired of it and not want to hear anymore and just
00:03:45.740don't want to hear him talk. And it'll take some people longer than others, but increasingly you're
00:03:50.520going to see that. And especially if he loses control of the House and the Senate, people are
00:03:54.360just going to assume that mostly his entire political journey of like over 12 years now is
00:04:01.840just cooked and done. And when I talked to him, I was trying to help him win. I was giving him what
00:04:07.140i thought were very clear to like path forward of objective things he could do to convince americans
00:04:12.380that he was focused on their desperate needs and at the end of the day i just didn't feel like he
00:04:18.480was that engaged and his other meeting like the one after me was like rich people trying to give
00:04:23.820him statues and stuff and he was talking about lindsey graham's golf drive and it's just like
00:04:27.960he didn't he wasn't engaging in the fight like i don't think he had to fight and listen i i don't
00:04:34.400think i would personally be able to go through the things that donald trump went through they
00:04:37.940put him through so much like all the convictions and all the attacks and like at a certain point
00:04:44.020i guess it's like well he's gonna just make his legacy and that's what i think he's doing
00:04:48.680real time uncensored unstoppable alexjoneslive.com take a stand share the link
00:04:58.240do you want to fight you better believe you got one all right it's got to be six months
00:05:04.480he can correct me on the time but mark mitchell is hands down one of the best pollsters not the
00:05:10.820best pollster in the world he's also got a big business background as a top executive at major
00:05:15.000companies so he has real world smarts and his polling has been the best and election after
00:05:21.260election and of course off one of our interviews last year he got some of the white house try to
00:05:24.860talked sense into Trump. Obviously, that didn't happen. Things have gotten a lot worse. We've
00:05:29.320been wanting Trump to succeed, but I got to tell you, the stuff I see, Israel leading him around
00:05:33.580by the nose, bragging they control him. He says they don't control him, but they do. Even the
00:05:38.420vice presidents had to break with him. J.D. Vance breaks ranks in Gamble for power. How about he's
00:05:43.840distancing himself? So he left Rasmussen, and this is his first big interview, and I'm very
00:05:50.240honored he's here with us. I really appreciate that. He's launched Honest Pollster at Honest
00:05:55.900Pollster on X and Honest Politico also on X and TheHonestPoll.com, TheHonestPoll.com.
00:06:06.260And I'm going to have that bookmarked daily. I always checked his X account 10 times a day or
00:06:10.840more because I like to tune into people that have a track record of being accurate. That's who I
00:06:15.000surround myself with. That's what I do. That's who our guests are, is the experts. And Mark
00:06:20.620Mitchell is right up there at the top. So Mark, there's so much I want to ask you. And I appreciate
00:06:24.980you being here today. You're very gracious to give us the first big interview. I should ask
00:06:29.020why the hiatus? Or is that private? We're very excited to see your new venture. You were the
00:06:34.340head pollster. Obviously, you're the head of Honest Pollster now completely. So your own ship.
00:06:40.680But Mark Mitchell, great to have you. Obviously, we'll talk about Iran, the polls, even Laura
00:06:44.100ingram saying punch out now eject eject uh the numbers are bad you were telling trump before the
00:06:49.940slide started eight months ago ten months ago about this and then obviously what's going to
00:06:53.700happen in the midterms what's happening politically the democratic socialist of america how they're
00:06:57.820winning and polling so well despite selling uh communism the total failure so mark great to have
00:07:03.620you and i'm going to try to give you the floor though you know i like to talk you certainly
00:07:07.160spur my synapses, but I really want to get the big download from you, so start wherever you'd
00:07:14.040like, and thank you so much. Well, first I want to say I really appreciate you having me on. You
00:07:20.120didn't have to do that. I wasn't really sure what was going to happen here, but I can't tell the
00:07:24.840whole story yet, but to give people an idea, I was silenced back in February, and my commentary had
00:07:32.900a lot to do with that. And of course, as you know, Alex, there's people who, if Trump does something
00:07:37.740bad, if Trump betrays his base, they'll play with the carrot. They'll form ranks. They'll try and
00:07:43.660glaze him. They'll try and convince you that MAGA is still doing great. But in reality, people who
00:07:50.260have their eyes open can see he's running towards a cliff. He's making terrible mistakes that are
00:07:54.520going to upset people. And of course, we saw this all really start in a major way back in last July,
00:08:00.300a year ago when he talked about not wanting the followers of his who were concerned about the
00:08:05.300Epstein situation. And that's when I became most vocal. And I'm trying to do this to help him. I
00:08:11.220think that his platform objectively has a lot of things that Americans need. And I'll tell you,
00:08:16.560polling is hard, especially now when the elections are so corrupt, especially when there's so much
00:08:20.720money and foreign influence in these campaigns. And I try to be accurate, and I think I've done
00:08:26.700a very good job. But what it's starting to seem like is that there are very few of us.
00:08:32.500Rich Barris is really the only other person I can personally vouch for. There are very few of us in
00:08:37.420this industry that will put the voter first because polling is basically commoditized.
00:08:43.220And most of the pollsters you see are down in D.C. They've attached themselves to major political
00:08:48.000action committees. They try and lobby and earn their money through lobbying. And when you have
00:08:52.500pollster lobbyists, you start to see an incentive for the results to shape themselves to what the
00:08:58.520client wants. And I will absolutely never do that. That's the one thing I can guarantee people.
00:09:04.120And so for the last couple of months, I had to be quiet. I was given free reign for five years to
00:09:10.020rebuild Rasmussen Reports. It was in a very, very bad state when I took it over. Basically,
00:09:15.180he had no corporate leadership. It didn't have a pollster. They couldn't find anybody.
00:09:18.700They could only pay me to do it part time. And I objectively, in my opinion, saved that business through a couple of true decisions I made related to their methodology, cut costs drastically, improve the accuracy.
00:09:33.780And believe it or not, in the 24 cycle, we actually made more money on my YouTube channel than we did an actual bespoke polling.
00:09:42.060Well, I said I wasn't going to interrupt right away, but you dropped a bombshell.
00:09:50.020So I don't think anybody knew what was going on.
00:09:51.800I think you're disclosing this here for the first time.
00:09:54.200But, wow, here's the vice president seeing the show, wanting you to come warn Trump, what, eight, nine months ago, whenever it was.
00:10:01.060And then suddenly the censorship comes in, which shows the powerful forces that don't want him to know the truth, or maybe he gave the order.
00:10:08.840And then Rasmus, as I'm reading into this, told you, hey, stop it.
00:10:12.320So you, with integrity, you leave to do your own thing.
00:10:31.140Because for people that don't know, and you're the expert, they don't just want you to change
00:10:35.840what you're polling so Trump doesn't get mad and wake up. It's also would become a form of
00:10:41.540deceptive poll when you take a credible pollster and have him put out lies that could create a
00:10:46.280perception that what Trump's doing popular when it's not like CNN saying 100 percent of MAGA
00:10:51.520agree with the war when they sample what six people on a phone call. I mean, so you might
00:10:58.000want to explain that, but go ahead. Yeah, we can go into some of the ways that people are deceptive
00:11:03.000with the polls as well. But again, it comes down to representing the voter. And that's what I care
00:11:08.280about. I care about George Gallup's idea of what polling really should be, which is like the referee
00:11:13.320in a democracy. And so if I get surprising results that say something bad about what's going on and
00:11:20.520like trying to predict the future and things are going to be bad in future elections,
00:11:24.300somebody that cares about the voter and cares about the Trump agenda and the things that he
00:11:28.360was going to do to fix America would scream loudly, doing something wrong, warning, like stop
00:11:34.160attacking your base, stop contradicting people on the affordability crisis, stop going long,
00:11:39.660600,000 Chinese students, like these are incongruous with your base. And it's like when
00:11:45.420you're just looking at Trump approval, and he's at 47. And then a month later, he's at 44. It's
00:11:51.640easy to look at that and say, well, it's not like really a big deal. But at the end of the day,
00:11:56.180When you're attacking your base, when you're betraying people, you're really chipping away at your enthusiasm, your ability to raise money, your ability to get people to show up.
00:12:05.160Yeah, you were trying to get him not to commit political suicide.
00:12:06.900What, he's down to like 30 now on job approval.
00:12:09.420Correct me if I'm wrong, but just how amazing this is.
00:12:11.700You were the first four or five months in to say, no, he's going sideways.
00:12:15.840He's at a high at 57 or whatever it was.
00:14:38.500Well, it's not just still now, eight, nine months later, everyone agrees with you, including Fox News.
00:14:43.900So so they must be getting some internal polling that is just murder.
00:14:49.360Yeah, well, I mean, we have an affordability crisis and I didn't realize it would take the world this long.
00:14:54.640But when you have an entire system predicated on inflation, you can't really meaningfully lower prices without deflation, which would probably be great for Joe six pack.
00:15:06.000But it wouldn't be so good for, you know, our massive financially interconnected global banking.
00:15:11.520right um but that's why you know focus on wages get rid of the h1bs those are high paying jobs
00:15:17.520get deport as many people as possible and we could quibble about the self-deportation numbers but i
00:15:22.680think everybody would look at the actual like remove from country deportation numbers and say
00:15:26.920that these are a little bit lacking and some of that is is because i think that limitations have
00:15:31.580been placed on those people and if i was involved in any way in placing those limitations i mean
00:15:37.640a huge mea culpa, but it was against my will. But what I will say is that after that period,
00:15:44.360now we're going into January, I was very vocal, very, very, very, very vocal about we should not
00:15:50.300go into Iran. This is not what people voted for. And most importantly, it was going to suck the
00:15:56.120oxygen out of Trump's political capital. We're going into, and I mean, it was just like-
00:16:00.700And you specifically on my show said that the vice president brings you up there, you keep
00:16:05.580telling him and just like joe kent and tulsi gabbard told him the world be disaster the you
00:16:10.180know the moolahs won't fall now they put out another pentagon report just a copy of what he
00:16:14.080was given five days before they launched the war and it said the moolahs aren't going to fall and
00:16:18.840then he gets mad at people that do their job and tell them the truth he's different than he was
00:16:23.720eight years ago even four years ago what what the hell just as a man a smart business guy
00:16:28.240mark mitchell what has happened to trump i can only conjecture i feel like again
00:16:35.520the Epstein thing was a very big punch in the gut because I've been following
00:16:39.720Trump since probably early 2016. And Alex,
00:16:43.260I don't have any problem saying I was one of the original frog posters.
00:16:46.740I spent hours a day involved in the Trump movement.
00:16:49.660I wasn't a pollster at the time, but again,
00:16:52.240objectively his platform has a lot to like because it was the platform of a
00:17:31.880And there was always a big question mark about whether this administration would be able to staff itself appropriately with people on the same page as 2024 Donald Trump.
00:17:41.180And I think it's fair to say that in most cases that did not happen.
00:17:45.680And maybe it's the best we can do and we're cooked and we'll just have to see.
00:17:49.780But like, again, I'm just trying to do the best I can.
00:17:52.400And what I can say is that in January, in the middle of January, we did a set of polls that I'm confident in the results.
00:17:59.180And I know that they got to the White House and they were being looked at. And the most important question was, would you approve or disapprove of the United States using its military to help overthrow the Ayatollah in Iran?
00:18:12.180And in my opinion, that's a very fair question. It's not a push question. We're not baiting the people. It was only 17% strongly approved, 21% somewhat, and then 47% were disapproving, and only 28% of Republicans strongly approved. So there was not a burning desire to do this.
00:18:31.140Now, the problem is, is that you could cherry pick things to show Donald Trump if you wanted a strike in Iran.
00:18:36.860And I think a lot of people were probably doing that.
00:18:39.060Things like between 80 and 90 percent of America says, yeah, we should attack Iran to take out their nuclear programs.
00:18:44.900But the problem is when that like obviously to people who are involved in politics will become what the world focuses on for the next three or four months.
00:18:52.980When what we should be doing is using the last opportunity for Trump's legislative agenda.
00:18:57.620that was what this strike in my opinion filled the gap of like we were talking about congress
00:19:05.080laying out their 2026 legislative agenda and then we're bombing iran and so any of these things like
00:19:11.200and i don't know if the save act was ever going to get passed or not i know they don't have the
00:19:14.580votes for the filibuster but we were gonna they were talking about potentially two different
00:19:18.380bites of the reconciliation apple and that could have been a lot more of the maga stuff
00:19:21.980than what was put in the one big beautiful bill because that was probably just sort of like
00:19:26.600I think that was probably a Republican pork bill in order to like the trade was, hey, Trump,
00:19:33.120you want your tax cuts extended? Like we need to get this bill passed. And it all kind of went
00:19:37.540downhill from the one big, beautiful bill. So I know that these results were being used. The war
00:19:42.400was not popular. And also even the tolerance for casualties is really, really low here. People are
00:19:48.260sick of these overseas forever wars where Americans die. If the United States needs to
00:19:52.620engage in military action to defend America's interests. This isn't even to, like, defend
00:19:58.060Israel. It's to defend America's interests. What would an acceptable level of combat death be for
00:20:03.080U.S. troops? 41% say zero. 10% say less than 10. So that's half the country. We're already there.
00:20:10.140We got there in, like, the first week or two, right? And then, again, this exceeded how long
00:20:16.080I thought it would take even. And I don't think the world has yet coped with the implications
00:20:22.320for the American empire and the lasting damage that this may potentially have done to us
00:20:27.060at the expense of the domestic policy agenda that America was begging for and crawling over
00:20:33.720broken glass to get. They literally can't put food on their table. And then we replace it with
00:20:39.080something that is going to have continued ramifications that we cannot yet foresee
00:20:43.900on the global economic situation. And then also our strength on the world stage as a superpower.
00:20:51.780Like, are we going to even have bases in the Middle East right now if they could just be hit at will?
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00:26:39.000Now that, you know, they're picking up on that.
00:26:40.660But that's where Vance has always been.
00:26:42.440And I think the Republican Party needs to divorce itself from the Trump brand of MAGA
00:26:46.500because, folks, the insider trading, the sweetheart deals, the dirty deals,
00:26:51.360Even the New York Post is a total Trump glazing fest, brown nosing fest said, my God, it's bad when Hunter does it and it's bad when Trump does it.
00:27:00.500I mean, they're putting Hunter to shame with the deals they're doing.
00:27:04.640Oh, but they get letters from the DOJ saying it's OK.
00:32:55.640I mean, if the Democrats could come up with things to put in his head to say to hurt him and the Republicans he's been doing it, I mean, I would see him go down multiple points every time he did that.
00:33:07.440Yeah, and I think in the old politics, all things being equal, people would look at this cycle and say, well, there's reasons to think that Republicans could buck the historic trend of the Congress flipping right after a presidential election.
00:33:21.200And the problem is, is that all things are not going to be equal.
00:33:23.780The Democrats are going to have a significant amount of money. They're going to have an enthusiasm edge. The redistricting, you know, we have this whole mismatch between Republican voters and Trump voters. They're two different things. And then you have all of the circular firing squads that are going on on the right.
00:33:39.820they're engaging in a process that rich and i have coined purification by subtraction and they
00:33:45.220really want to maintain this unified cohesive view of what the maga movement looks like and
00:33:50.640they'll do it by kicking people like you out of the movement alex and that's not the way that
00:33:55.100politics is supposed to work you're supposed to try and maintain the coalition that you built but
00:34:00.560we're also like losing you know small business owners and workers by doing things like continuing
00:34:05.540Well, sure, but since you raised me, I'm an expert on that.
00:34:08.460I can tell you, I didn't mind being attacked, except I knew what it would mean.
00:34:12.240Calling the biggest talk show hosts, we're not influencers,
00:34:15.660calling the biggest journalists and pundits saying you're excommunicated
00:34:19.500was just like saying, if you care about Epstein, you're not MAGA,
00:36:47.580Now, irregardless of what happens, I think what you're going to see after the midterms is a natural loss of political capital of Trump.
00:36:56.920People are already talking about that happening just because the way that he's talking about the Iran strike seems to be the kind of thing that you would do if you just want to make everybody tired of you.
00:37:08.460How many times are we going to unleash unstoppable hell on Iran between now and the midterms?
00:37:12.980people are just going to get tired of it and not want to hear anymore and just don't want to hear
00:37:16.920him talk and it'll take some people longer than others but increasingly you're going to see that
00:37:21.880and especially if he loses control of the house and the senate people are just going to assume that
00:37:25.940mostly his entire political journey of like over 12 years now is just cooked and done
00:37:33.580and then they're going to start thinking about maga and i had this conversation with jd vance
00:37:39.100last June, I think now at this point. And I asked him, I said, look, there's going to be a time
00:37:44.480in the not too distant future where people look at MAGA and say, well, MAGA is just whatever Trump
00:37:48.660wants it to be. Because he'll take MAGA and turn it into Mark Levin. And so at a certain point,
00:37:54.280it doesn't create an ideological core for an effective political movement. I think that's
00:37:59.820fair to say. And so I asked, what's the future for MAGA? Is it a Republican thing? And how do
00:38:05.600you redefine it and what should it stand for? And his answer to me was economic populism. And I
00:38:10.140think he's 100% right. That's what America needs right now. We've had too much corporatism. We've
00:38:15.280had too much corporate capture and corporate welfare. We've had a Republican party that's
00:38:19.360been co-opted by big business interests, and they're not going to win unless they fix this.
00:38:23.780And we talked about what that would look like. And unfortunately, as far as I know, he's really
00:38:29.640the only authentic economic populist national political leader we have. I just don't think
00:38:34.960there are that many of them because everybody's tied up by the military industrial complex or big
00:38:39.940ag or big pharma on the right. And in order to do that, one of the things we talked about is
00:38:46.580there probably needs to be new flows of capital on the right, because so much of that is allocated
00:38:53.420based on these power brokers and it goes to the vendors who they say it goes to. And they get to
00:39:00.140control what the establishment republican thinks by allocating donor bucks and right now that's
00:39:05.480what's happening we're taking a lot of israeli donor bucks and we're funneling to the people
00:39:09.220that are good and not the people that are bad we're taking you know donor bucks from big
00:39:13.160businesses that want mergers that was my next question what happens to apac it's it's thrown
00:39:17.920its weight around its primary people it's bragged but it's uncloaked itself now it's trying to merge
00:39:23.220with the u.s military and the defense authorization but it's caused a mass awakening how does the
00:39:28.240israel first wing that's kind of taken over from the neocons and the rhinos how is it going to fare
00:39:34.880in this because it's it may be able to buy off influencers with a couple billion dollars
00:39:39.200but at the end of the day it is as popular as cancer i don't see this marriage going well
00:39:44.880especially when trump's a lame duck so the nesset uh 2026 his bar budget 730 million in a 12-month
00:39:55.860period is, I think, unlike anything we've ever seen before when it comes to foreign
00:40:52.620And it's it's not an authentic argument. Like, that's what I want to get back to is that the Internet, especially Twitter, is the marketplace of ideas.
00:41:00.520And so you see a lot of arguments that just don't hold water. And so, like, long term, I don't think that this money is going to have the outcome they think it's going to have if their goal is to co-opt the Republican Party, make the Republican Party a winning force that represents the American people.
00:41:14.760it's just not going to work now if their goal is to drag out the iran strike for another couple
00:41:19.240months i don't know like maybe it's like a feedback loop that is getting to trump or something
00:41:24.000somehow like maybe that's how people uh like you got grouped into what is very clearly like a
00:41:30.480capture separate and kill like thing you know like they're trying to carve out the parts of
00:41:35.500that they don't want here and then attack them with a unified front and like it's very clear
00:41:41.900that this psychological operation is going on, is being funded, and it's gross. And look, again,
00:41:48.060I don't think it's going to be effective for them at all. I think it's actually speeding up
00:41:52.400a process that I think defines the future of politics. And we've talked about this before.
00:41:57.040And this is the fourth turning. And even since the last time you and I talked about it,
00:42:01.180I think we've seen it progress. And I'll go over the socialism numbers here.
00:42:05.760So basically, what you have is that your baby boomer, even though a lot of them are liberal,
00:42:10.920Your baby boomer does currently define the Trump movement because they watch so much Fox News, right?
00:42:17.460And the baby boomers between now and the 2028 election are going to die off somewhere in the order of two to three million of those voters are going to die in the baby boomer generation.
00:42:28.560At the same time, you're going to have three to four million people enter the electorate who are 18 and first time voters and getting all of their news, not from Fox News, but from the Internet.
00:42:38.900And every year after that, this pace is going to accelerate.
00:42:42.240You're going to see less boomers in Congress, in the Senate, and politics is going to flip
00:43:29.000They get shut out of jobs because of DEI.
00:43:31.180And they can't they can't even go pick crops because the Republican Party is pushing through infinite H-2A worker visa programs.
00:43:38.800Right. And so you're going to see this continue to accelerate.
00:43:41.600And incidentally, the numbers for Israel support are almost identical to these numbers for capitalism.
00:43:49.300And so you're seeing the younger generation, even the under 40 Trump voters, over half of them would say they would actually vote for a socialist.
00:43:56.140So Trump didn't win because of like Reagan conservative values.
00:43:59.660the people that pushed him over the edge, the big coalition, the people that bounced first
00:44:04.560were people that want order. They want law and order. They wanted doge. They wanted rationalization
00:44:09.900of our economic system. They wanted economic populism. They really just wanted to be able
00:44:13.600to get a job and have a family. And they can't. They've been completely shut out. Every year,
00:44:17.900that age gets higher. We're looking at average homebuyer prices that increase by one year.
00:44:22.720Every year, the chart gets older, right? And so our entire economic system has basically had a
00:44:28.880wrench thrown into it. And of course, it's the two party globalist, you know, financialized
00:44:34.240Federal Reserve backed system where asset earners get all of the spoils of war. And Trump is leaning
00:44:41.480into those people. Remember Dow 50,000, like that's the golden age. And it's objectively not
00:44:47.620to these people. They don't care about the stock market. They want to be able to afford a house
00:44:52.120and they can't. And so this is why they're voting for socialists. And again, they're not very
00:44:56.400socialist the zoomers only say 43 say socialist they don't really but they don't care about these
00:45:01.360values or ideals they're just going to keep rolling the dice until they get somebody that
00:45:06.060fixes these things and you know what you already put these people through covid you already made
00:45:10.780it so that they can't apply for a job and get a job you've basically turned their chances of having
00:45:16.200like a normal uh relationship with a spouse on its head through uh the the feminist movement
00:45:22.200completely undermined America. They've destroyed basically every institution.
00:45:27.020People don't trust the church. They don't trust the federal government.
00:45:29.980So they have no trust. They're unhappy. They feel like they've been shut out.
00:45:34.020And they're going to get power. They are going to get power. And they are
00:45:38.280going to go after the Republicans first because the Republicans
00:45:41.980are basically the old heads that don't get it. The Republicans, by doubling
00:45:46.180down on boomer capitalism, by doubling down on the stock market stuff, by doubling down
00:45:50.320on corporatism are making themselves a huge target.
00:45:53.780Oh, the boomers on average, and boomers call and say I'm singling out.
00:45:56.560I'm talking about it in general, folks.
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00:53:37.940So, Mark, this is a short segment, long segment, coming up to take some calls.
00:53:40.820But what else is on your radar screen while for five, six months you've been on, you know, radio silence while you were gearing up to launch your new venture where you're the head honcho and you can't be censored.
00:54:19.180so i just think the window is too small now and i thought that even it was a challenge back in
00:54:27.360november and the advice very much focused on people want to see a plan people want to see
00:54:33.620a cohesive strategy that acknowledges the problems that they have not do not talk to me about
00:54:39.900affordability no i understand that you can't afford things and here's what we're going to do
00:54:43.880to fix it. And even then, I thought the window was too small to get all of it done. But the idea
00:54:49.620is to show that MAGA combined with the Republican Party can actually move the ball downfield in a
00:54:55.540certain direction. Give people a light at the end of the tunnel. I said to him, show people the
00:54:59.940golden path, not the golden age, because the problems are too big to get us there now. But
00:55:05.040to get there, it's like the junkie. You have to acknowledge that you have a problem. And our
00:55:09.360problem is major corporations completely control our government, and the economy, the trickle-down
00:55:15.440thing doesn't work anymore. We basically have trickle-down tax cuts going on in the MAGA
00:55:20.500movement, but it's like combined with mass immigration, combined with ridiculous runaway
00:55:26.340inflation, and the ability for large corporations to just get whatever they want, there is really
00:55:31.720no worker party, and that's what we need because the problem we have is suppressed wages. They
00:55:36.420have not been keeping up with inflation. So I said, show the American people that we're going
00:55:42.020in this direction and also with the government accountability. Now, the problem is, is that at
00:55:47.860this point, if Trump came out and said, well, here's my plan to show that Republicans are going
00:55:52.280to govern and here's what America looks like in 20 years. Nobody's going to believe it. That's
00:55:58.260100% it. Nobody's going to believe it. And then you also pragmatically have the problem of, I still
00:56:04.220don't understand how you extricate yourself from this iran situation in a way that doesn't in some
00:56:09.480way like just hang over you like a paul because even if we walked away now iran controls the
00:56:16.580global energy markets we still haven't seen the the knock-on effects of the fertilizer stuff
00:56:21.580and now we're starting to like you know have some friction with china like it's just there are more
00:56:27.700problems not less and america had major existential like problems and we're not being negative here
00:56:34.040We're admitting. Brace for impact. I mean, it's like you drive through a green light and a guy runs a red light and you turn to your wife and say, look out, because, I mean, you're about to get hit.
00:56:45.640I mean, that's where we are. Yeah. Well, I want to be optimistic.
00:56:49.260I'm not necessarily saying that everything we're going to be shooting each other and I'm going to be serving in the same platoon as you in the next civil war.
00:56:56.040Like, I don't think we're there yet. That's obviously a very potential future.
00:57:00.460But all the fourth turning tells us is that there's going to be a period of political upheaval where people's values change.
00:57:07.100And I think we're seeing that now because people's values are changing very much.
00:57:11.660These younger people, they want to be looked out for. They think they haven't been.
00:57:15.440They want to step into their own leadership role. They want to build their own institutions.
00:57:19.080They're sick of the stuff that we have. They want to cast all that stuff away.
00:57:22.060You can see it when you talk about the World War II Foundation.
00:58:44.520And I think for not just boomers, but everybody who doesn't understand cycles, and this is a very well-documented cycle that's now not like we're predicting it.
00:58:54.760We're now deep into the fourth turning.
00:58:57.860This is now a proven fact that, yes, it happened.
00:59:02.080It was like a 98% chance it would, but sure enough, it did.
00:59:05.340So why don't you explain that to people?
01:05:43.560I mean, I've seen it happen. Walmart, Sunnyvale engineering buildings, 95 percent H-1B.
01:05:50.180You know, you get your HR DEI focus, Karen, who wants like a feminized corporate culture.
01:05:57.280You know, Indian H-1Bs tend to be less threatening and more socially cohesive.
01:06:01.640And once they get in, there is a very big ethnocentric hiring push. It just happens.
01:06:06.240And then five years later, they say to the executives, hey, these Karens are a problem.
01:06:10.580They kick them out and it's all Indians.
01:06:11.940yeah yeah that's right and then they own the c-suite they get they get into the c-suite
01:06:16.640and i've experienced it like that was my experience in corporate america prior to
01:06:21.240going to rastbust reports so anybody and again it's not a majority of americans who have dealt
01:06:26.000with this because the h1b program people still think is about bringing america's best and
01:06:31.420brightest and so if you were daddy warbucks republican egop donor guy who you know is run
01:06:39.520by the Americans for prosperity or whatever, right? You could take an unpopular stance and
01:06:45.380say like, no, America, I'm looking out for the worker and this program is unpopular. And even
01:06:49.640though it was signed into law by a Republican president, we need to repeal this thing. And you
01:06:54.900would be a hero of the youth, but you would have to do the exercise and work of explaining it to
01:07:01.000the older generation and you would have to buck your donors. And so that's why it doesn't happen
01:07:06.220on the Republican side. And again and again, there's these popular issues. You know what I
01:07:10.200mean? There's voter ID. There's the E-Verify federal mandate. There's all these things that
01:07:15.420the Republican Party could do. You could, again, legislatively debank. But they won't do it. And
01:07:20.680people don't know how mafias work in big corporations. Joe Rogan's talked a little
01:07:24.700bit about it, so I'll tell the story. All those YouTubes that got banned on Spotify when he moved
01:07:28.780there was because 60% of the management of Spotify US is trans. So they'll literally poop on the
01:07:37.340floor, tear out the building, go crazy in New York. The technicians are all in Sweden that run
01:07:42.020the technical, but the maniacs run that. And so they basically have a veto over who can even come
01:07:48.680on Joe's show. That's why he left Spotify. And their exclusivity a year ago was literally the
01:07:53.460trans mafia. Well, forget the trans mafia. Those companies, you've got to say you're trans.
01:07:58.780But with the Indians, I'm sorry, folks, 80-something percent of the visas are just from India, and most of those are from one little tribe in India, and you're gone, folks.
01:08:08.200But they're very nice and sweet and don't tell you that, but that's how it works.
01:08:22.100Thanks. Just real quick, Mark, back in November of 2025, you were on Alex's show. You basically laid it out for the Trump admin at that time for the missteps and charted a clear path for the president to pull out of the doom spiral, so to speak.
01:08:38.560With that being said, now that that's long gone and out of the equation, more than likely,
01:08:43.500with what you said, that hit me like a ton of bricks, and it resonated, and it's exactly a lot of how I feel.
01:08:51.360Do you feel that maybe J.D. Vance can step into that role,
01:08:54.980or are we looking at a possibility of just giving up on the Republican Party
01:08:58.980and maybe trying an independent or somebody that we can shift the funds
01:09:02.420and get some type of support and have a wave of just the populace?
01:09:07.380Because, I mean, you mentioned that, you know, J.D. Vance is talking about economic populism.
01:10:54.620Yeah, and they started systematically attacking him,
01:10:57.380and they used the Joe Rogan thing to attack him even more.
01:11:00.520So the establishment Republican and its interests definitely want Rubio.
01:11:04.340I don't know anything about Rubio personally, but what I could say is that taking and running a secretary of state when people are begging for a domestic policy agenda is political malpractice.
01:31:53.860but he's like 90 couple percent through his total like non lame duck presidency you know assuming
01:32:00.440that the democrats win control of the congress and so there's very soon a period where people
01:32:05.640are going to be desperate for new leadership that is like well what do we do now this didn't work
01:32:10.760out the way we wanted it to and obviously there's a lot of very pro-maga people and a lot of
01:32:15.860entrenched interests that are going to be very interested in extending the control of the current
01:32:21.780movement they have. And so what I think we're going to see is something like, you know, a civil
01:32:26.020war on the right over the future of the Republican Party. Now, the establishment, we know what that
01:32:31.020wants, right? And so it's going to be a dark horse outsider who runs on something that looks like
01:32:36.240America first, but it has to have a very specific economic vision of the future. It has to do
01:32:42.620something that looks different. No, I totally agree. So in closing, Vance obviously is the
01:32:47.420best, I think you already said this, I'm going to put the words in your mouth, the best guy,
01:32:51.500he needs to do more breaking with Trump. In fact, the best thing he can do is really get in a fight
01:32:56.360with Trump and have Trump really come out against him. I would encourage Vance, he's very tactful,
01:33:01.580but do you agree with that A and B? How would he tactfully distance himself from Trump even more
01:33:06.540right now? He's got to do it now. I mean, the problem is he's just going to open himself to
01:33:11.520so many more attacks. He's in a really tough spot. And again, I think he's the best of the people we
01:33:16.780currently have on the map but i don't know if that's the necessarily the best thing for the
01:33:21.240health of the future of the republican party it might be a generational shellacking that happens
01:33:26.720because you have an outsider who runs as an independent and just rubs the republican party's
01:33:31.940nose in their own mess and hopefully we get through whatever democrat wave that turns into
01:33:36.940and maybe it'll be a sane democrat who learned from donald trump and wants to actually repair
01:33:41.900the american i doubt it but what if rfk jr and gabbard ran or everybody's tucker swears he won't
01:33:48.860do it but what if tucker ran third party i think it needs some it needs to be somebody that goes
01:33:53.640after og maga in my opinion because we saw uh rfk run as an independent and he came out really
01:34:00.000strong because people weren't totally sold on trump yet he came out at like a 14 15 but by the
01:34:05.080end there he was only at about one and a half percent and in my opinion that's not enough to
01:34:09.760like really inflict the damage that you would probably yeah exactly and and that would be
01:34:16.320tucker and it would be on like hey the american voter needs to come first or somebody like tucker
01:34:22.500american voter needs to come first uh like we need to fix this you were betrayed here's what
01:34:28.000the future of the republican party needs to look like and then that needs to be like like calculus
01:34:32.920Like, that needs to be a clearly delineated set of vision that is not, like, Holocaustianity plus boomer capitalism plus, like, they're our greatest doubt.
01:34:43.680Like, it's got to be very clearly, this is our vision.
01:34:47.480We're not using the Art Laffer curve anymore.
01:34:49.780We're not using triple-down economics.
01:35:26.020they have completely lost their position as the winner versus palestine in american public opinion
01:35:33.060i think it takes years if that comes back at all but in some of the polls palestine actually beats
01:35:39.020like israel now i think in the gallup poll it did for the very first time and yet if you look at the
01:35:44.460votes on capitol hill the republicans still vote along party line for israel the democrats don't
01:35:49.480they they split about 50 50 now so now i don't know if that's real on the democrat side but i
01:35:54.780think it's fair to say that there's going to be some behind the scenes friction on the Democrats
01:35:58.600where you have people like Schumer going up against people like AOC, and they're going to
01:36:02.760be on opposite sides of this. So if I was Israel, that means like lean into trying to do everything
01:36:07.980possible to make sure the establishment wing of the Republican Party stays in control.
01:36:12.200I think that that might be a losing proposition and public opinion is going to turn on them
01:36:16.120even more because I think their tactics are very inauthentic. Now, then it gets into like,
01:36:22.020what is their real purpose in iran and there's reasons to wonder if they don't just like want to
01:36:27.540make this one the all-out war to end all wars against iran and uh because of sort of religious
01:36:33.500reasons or whatever like i just don't know as a state i think a lot of that depends on what
01:36:38.540happens to bb netanyahu and where public opinion is in israel on him i have no idea um he's still
01:36:46.040relatively respected in the u.s like people turned on israel not netanyahu which is kind of weird
01:36:51.140But they are done with this war. I mean, like the numbers are not good. We asked a very straight up question. And this is bad because a lot of pollsters were cooking these questions with push questions, which is closer to your opinion. The U.S. should end military action against Iran immediately or the U.S. should continue military action until the Islamic regime in Iran is completely destroyed.