The Alex Jones Show Live - THE ALEX JONES SHOW 8⧸22⧸2026

00:00:00.000 Saturday transmission. Welcome to Saturday Live, the Alex Jones show. I'm your embattled host

00:00:10.020 today, Rex Jones. We got quite the show for you. I've got a number of domestic stories.

00:00:14.480 And if you've been following me, you know, I'm kind of a politics and war guy. We got

00:00:18.020 to look at what's happening downstream, all these global conflicts. Got to look at what's

00:00:21.640 happening during the destruction of the Republican Party caused by Donald Trump. How did this

00:00:25.860 all start and how is it going to end i'll be joined at 12 30 by top leading pollster mark

00:00:31.380 mitchell who was previously with rasmussen now with his own polling agency honest polling group

00:00:36.300 and i'm looking forward to having that conversation with him however i want to start off with the

00:00:40.580 breaking news today this is the number one top story that i saw this morning this deserves to

00:00:45.700 be covered and what i checked out i'm trying to find more additional information on it is that

00:00:50.500 there's a media blackout going on right now on the victims, the Epstein survivors, their stories

00:00:56.080 need to be told, their voices need to be heard, and they're being very vocal. They're going to

00:01:00.180 name names. We're letting Congress know right now, if you don't speak up, we will. Let's go

00:01:05.000 ahead and throw that clip. Transparacy is justice. Release the files and the secrecy and stand with

00:01:11.920 us in declaring that no one, no billionaires, no politicians, not world leaders is above the law.

00:01:20.500 And let me announce now, several of us F-team survivors have been discussing creating our

00:01:31.260 own list of names, we know the names, many of us were abused by them, now together as

00:01:47.080 survivors we will confidentially compile the names we all know we're regularly in the epstein world

00:01:53.880 and it will be done by survivors and for survivors

00:02:00.280 no one else is involved stay tuned for more details on that

00:02:06.200 because history is washing and so are the women who will come after us thank you

00:02:12.120 So this, to me, is one of the big two campaign promises of the 2024 Trump administration.

00:02:22.600 They said, number one, we're going to expose Epstein, release all the files.

00:02:26.280 Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, Pam Bondi.

00:02:29.100 This was their beat.

00:02:30.120 Remember, I have the files on my desk.

00:02:32.260 I've seen the videos.

00:02:33.460 Oh, they're so horrible.

00:02:34.520 And then, of course, no Iran war, no war, period, ending the war in Ukraine as well.

00:02:39.660 Look at how we've forgotten about that.

00:02:42.120 And the key thing to remember here is that you're not a goldfish.

00:02:45.360 You're a human being and you have a mind and an opinion.

00:02:47.900 And that was formed based off facts and logic.

00:02:50.440 Whenever they lie to you, I want you to pay attention to this.

00:02:53.200 Whenever they lie to you, whenever they obfuscate, whenever they try to hide the truth, you know, you know, things can be explained in under a paragraph.

00:03:00.020 It doesn't need all of this explanation.

00:03:02.400 The reason why Pam Bondi came out there and said, oh, I have the files on my desk.

00:03:06.120 I've seen the videos so terrible.

00:03:07.600 it's because well as the top law enforcement officer in the country which is what the attorney

00:03:12.560 general is she had seen the files and she had been working with the fbi the order came down

00:03:17.780 from on high not to put this stuff out i want to go ahead and read this article really quick this

00:03:22.860 is also breaking judge threatens justice department over epstein files the victims have a right to

00:03:28.660 know a federal judge has warned the usdoj of possible contempt proceedings after repeatedly

00:03:34.340 resisted orders to justify redactions in the jeffrey epstein files the dispute centers on

00:03:38.840 records that could shed light on epstein's wider network including potential co-conspirators and

00:03:43.440 whether the doj has lawfully withheld them under the epstein files transparency act washington dc

00:03:49.000 district judge emmett sullivan issued the warning in a lawsuit brought by journalist katie fang

00:03:53.940 against attorney general todd blanche fang accuses the trump administration of failing to release all

00:03:59.800 records required under the Epstein files transparency act or adequately explain why

00:04:04.020 some were withheld. This is a case where the most evidence has been hidden in front of everybody's

00:04:09.600 face. It's like you got a dead body under a tarp and you got blood leaking out. You got the foot

00:04:14.340 sticking out from underneath the tarp. And then the person standing over the tarp says, Oh,

00:04:18.220 nothing to see here. And in this analogy, you're a police officer. And you're like, Hey,

00:04:22.400 you know, we got, we got a call here that you murdered somebody. This is kind of known on

00:04:26.400 record. Can we can we look under that tarp? And they're like, oh, no, you don't have the authority

00:04:30.340 to do that. Only the federal government is able to hide its crimes in this way because it's also

00:04:36.080 the monkey guarding the banana patch. The lunatics are running the asylum. They have a clear compromise

00:04:40.920 here. They're compromised in the sense of they have the ability to prevent this information

00:04:45.380 coming out. As Trump said, my friends will get hurt. That's what he said to MTG. You can draw

00:04:50.420 your own conclusions there. But I don't want you to forget about this stuff because one very

00:04:54.620 important man told you not to forget about it and that would be dan bongina dan bongino also

00:04:59.580 known as epstein's power bottom netanyahu's power bottom let's go ahead and play clip two

00:05:04.220 a year and a half after that i'm in a green room at fox and i'm not going to say who because i

00:05:10.740 didn't give me permission to share it but well the short story but i know they are says you know

00:05:15.840 epstein's uh an intelligence asset for people in the middle east right i'm like no i didn't know

00:05:20.780 that i'm like you sure that the person let's say is like i'm absolutely sure that that he's either

00:05:27.240 a witting or unwitting asset intelligence asset meaning his plane and that island the cameras

00:05:35.120 there's a big assumption out there that these videotapes were exclusively in the custody of

00:05:39.400 oh hold on pause it all right he's about to imply oh some middle eastern countries working for would

00:05:44.620 that be qatar i mean look at that face come on hunk you know who you're talking about he's about

00:05:49.340 to say some middle eastern country but here's the thing we were told oh epstein it's normal he's

00:05:54.860 just a rich guy he jet sets around goes to all these different locations homes that he owns

00:05:58.780 and yeah all the bedrooms are wired with cameras and yeah he's got a massive collection of tapes

00:06:03.520 but it's all just home video you know he likes to do uh like uh tony hawk stuff with a skateboard

00:06:08.820 navy navy likes to record his dinner parties it's very clearly espionage did you like the torture

00:06:14.400 video. That's something from the Epstein files. I enjoyed that trip. You know, what does that

00:06:19.720 really mean? And all the coded language and all the things people like Dan Bongino now just gloss

00:06:24.180 over. They say it's a Democrat hoax. They say you're not MAGA if you care about the Epstein

00:06:28.460 files. All this stuff is coming back to light. Keep playing. That's a huge mistake. The reason

00:06:36.200 they wanted this story to go away is because there's an assumption like, oh, yeah, Epstein

00:06:41.240 had him no he wasn't the only one who had him according to this source these assets that's why

00:06:47.260 this blackmail story makes so much sense which middle eastern countries they are i don't know

00:06:51.580 but this person who's a very very good reporter i mean aces right swore epstein was either a

00:06:58.000 witting or unwitting intelligence asset and they may have had his plane wired up and they're the

00:07:02.160 ones who have all this stuff so the point is to sum it up how how do you know some of these

00:07:08.220 countries aren't going to some of these power players who aren't making decisions because hey

00:07:11.840 you wouldn't want this video out there right how do you know 100 i mean that let's let's get

00:07:18.360 he's got ehud barak the prime minister of israel slinking out of his house pissed off he's got

00:07:25.220 howard lutnik lying about oh well me and my wife went over to epstein's house and epstein had a

00:07:30.500 massage table out and we said oh what kind of guy gets a massage every day and epstein said the

00:07:34.920 right kind of massage. So I looked at my wife and my wife looked at me and we said, I'm sorry,

00:07:39.920 we got to get out of here. We got to leave. And then, of course, the photos come out of

00:07:43.840 Lutnik on the island. And what did Trump say? My friends will get hurt. That is what this has

00:07:49.620 always been about. This is about him either protecting his friends himself or both as he

00:07:54.360 sees them as an extension of himself. And ultimately, when you run in 2024 on the platform

00:07:59.780 of draining the swamp. The swamp is Epstein. The swamp is the political blackmail. The swamp is

00:08:05.220 the espionage. The swamp is the Middle Eastern country. We all know it's not Brazil or Qatar

00:08:10.360 that's in charge of all this. You know, it wasn't the prime minister of Qatar that was hanging out

00:08:15.340 at Epstein's house. It wasn't, you know, Ahmed Mamubu or whatever the name is. OK, it was another

00:08:20.820 guy named Ehud Barak. And of course, who was he the prime minister of Israel? I-Z-R-U-L. Let's go

00:08:27.780 ahead and get back into clip number three if we can clip number three the very beginning of trump's

00:08:34.080 presidency so glad we have an ai litigation team in place wait so the department our department

00:08:39.280 of justice which i thought we owned as citizens is now working on behalf of private companies

00:08:46.100 which we do not own in order to force communities to subsidize those private companies yes so under

00:08:54.400 the Attorney General, under this AI litigation team, this task force, will go out and they'll

00:08:59.620 see, hey, did this community in upstate New York put in place some toxic diesel particulates

00:09:08.340 zoning law that's not going to allow this data center to be built because they'll need

00:09:14.640 backup diesel generators.

00:09:16.220 And when they kick on every few days to test the diesel backup, and it's going to shoot

00:09:22.600 off these particulates and so forth we don't want that here we don't want it polluting our air and

00:09:27.560 our waterways by the way so that's what this task force will look maybe we just don't want it maybe

00:09:33.780 we just don't we think it's ugly or we disagree with the whole project or it doesn't matter what

00:09:38.840 the motive is it's our community and don't we have some right to shape its future because it's ours

00:09:44.940 so i think this is a very key point to understand you don't get the epstein files you don't get

00:09:50.000 cheap energy. You don't get peace across the earth. You don't get anti-war policy. But what

00:09:54.160 you do get is toxic diesel particulates. What you do get is toxic foreign beef product, which we'll

00:09:58.980 be getting into later. What you do get is more and more and more boomers voting in elections and

00:10:04.480 dominating with their willpower to pump the stock market ever higher by taking us further and further

00:10:09.580 on to war. And I think it's very key and very clear to understand to people, America doesn't

00:10:14.280 work for you anymore. That wasn't the intention, right? The intention was always to make the

00:10:18.420 billionaires richer and richer and richer and who would those people be those people would happen

00:10:23.280 to be epstein's friends now i think tucker raises an important issue here talking about the very

00:10:28.720 fact this is an ugly thing right because it doesn't just have to be materially deficient to

00:10:33.340 the country it doesn't just have to hurt america it's also ugly and wrong and antithetical to our

00:10:38.060 culture you know china only has like less than 400 i think it's like 350 something like that data

00:10:43.080 centers we have almost 4 000 in the state of texas alone they denied permits to build 1800 of these

00:10:50.100 things and you got to keep in mind this is why i talk about the generational stuff so much this

00:10:54.180 is so important for people to understand when you have a family all right and you have people let's

00:10:59.020 just call them boomers whatever it is gen x whatever and they're older and they have family

00:11:03.480 land family property and they've got millennial kids they've got gen z kids maybe they got gen

00:11:08.720 next kids and they raise those children in a way to either not appreciate what they had not know

00:11:14.060 what they had or not value what they had what ends up happening is happening is in all these

00:11:18.400 communities whether they got the water source where they got the land to develop xyz the access

00:11:22.880 imminent domain or not you're looking at a population of people that are selling off the

00:11:28.520 future of the country both from a regulatory perspective by voting for these things and

00:11:32.040 supporting these things and just from a spiritual perspective you know i'm a big fan of james

00:11:36.040 fishback and i was unhappy to see him lose the florida primary to byron donald's but he did get

00:11:41.020 you know 150 000 plus people to vote for him and that's a really big deal and how did he do that

00:11:45.820 he did that by talking about the orange groves he did that by talking about the wetlands the

00:11:50.900 everglades the things that we want to protect that's their culture our culture as americans

00:11:55.000 together stewards of the land that's what god calls us to be calls us to have dominion over

00:12:00.440 the earth and to care for it not to destroy it not to destroy the planet and ultimately when

00:12:05.240 you're a billionaire and you come waltzing into town as my dad said about ben shapiro years ago

00:12:10.100 i bet you wear some spurs when you come to town don't you mr shapiro when you waltz into town

00:12:15.100 with your spurs and your 10 gallon hat and you say i'm a billionaire i live in hawaii full time

00:12:19.720 we're going to build a data center and it's going to employ 400 american jobs you're like well this

00:12:24.500 is a multi-billion dollar project i thought that when you got multi-billion dollar projects in your

00:12:28.960 economy i thought that was supposed to benefit the people and lift them up not tear them down

00:12:32.180 They go, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We get tax breaks, subsidies. We get your energy. We get your water. We get your land via eminent domain. It's a military operation. Keep that in mind. It's very key to our national security to develop these on top of your house. We get infinite excuses, infinite credit to build whatever we want. And you would say, well, I'm an American. My family's had this farm for eight generations, six generations, three generations. You want to take it from me? And they'll say, well, you know, we're going to pay you all this money.

00:13:00.140 you're gonna get all this money don't you want 10 million dollars and they're gonna build the

00:13:04.900 capstone the tombstone to the country on top of your family land that's what all this represents

00:13:10.280 to me look how ugly that thing is that is the future of america not humans running around

00:13:14.960 not people hunting and fishing not people worshiping god a digital 2d ready player one

00:13:20.800 style hell where you will be the only prisoner and soon not even the only prisoner everyone will

00:13:25.720 be dead no one will have children anymore because the goal ultimately as i've talked to top futurists

00:13:30.080 mike adams about this multiple multiple multiple times is the idea of raising up a two-dimensional

00:13:35.960 god inside one of these data centers that serves as a simulated world or a simulation of creation

00:13:41.600 then they can bring into our reality that will have predictive powers on present and future

00:13:46.140 uh happenings uh in our on our planet that's how you get a real crystal ball a palantir if you will

00:13:52.560 and last time i checked you didn't vote for that i didn't vote for that nobody voted for that like

00:13:57.620 Here's the thing. When he comes in and says, I'm the AI president and gives 500 billion to Sam Altman and open AI and Project Stargate, I believe Larry Ellison as well, on day one, that's not America first policy that might be able to justify it as, oh, if we don't do it, China will. That's the same thing they said about the war, guys. That's the same thing they said about the war. Are you starting to notice a pattern yet? Let's go back to Tucker with more key information.

00:14:23.040 Right. And there's going to be the loopholes that'll be used here, and we'll see what this

00:14:29.860 data AI litigation task force does. It's like the white supremacy task force or the anti-Semitism

00:14:36.440 task force that'll be deployed across the United States. So it'll be interesting to see what

00:14:41.320 loopholes are employed. But good news is 500 or so different communities have already fought back

00:14:47.260 against this. There was a friend of the show, Derek Brose, and Hakeem Anwar put on a day of

00:14:52.040 action on the beginning of August against these data centers. So people around the country to come

00:14:57.160 out and say, we don't want these things in our backyard, at least kind of drawing attention to

00:15:01.580 them. We don't want the noise. We don't want the pollution. And there's so much just misinformation

00:15:08.680 and there's fear about all of these data centers right now. And there's just a lot of BS that's

00:15:17.700 of floating around about how these things operate um maybe we could talk about it if you want to

00:15:22.180 kind of all right let's take it out here i want to go to clip number four which is darth vader

00:15:26.820 dark lord of the sith he's a big fan of these data centers you know tucker may be worried

00:15:30.980 about it everyone else may be worried hey do you not support the empire play clip number four

00:15:36.540 Darth Vader.

00:15:51.000 The emperor is a fan of flock, and we must continue utilizing flock technologies so that we can follow and surveil the rebel scum as they move from playground to playground, from playground to pool,

00:16:05.380 from pool to gymnasium because we all know that the flock cameras are not only following the

00:16:10.960 license plate readers they are following children they are following children in parks and gymnasiums

00:16:16.680 and we need this i need this so i can stalk my ex-girlfriend also it should be known that the

00:16:24.960 people of this town the pools that want their storm drains cleared they should not have their

00:16:29.580 storm drains cleared because in order to do that we will have to raise taxes and how will the people

00:16:35.060 trust the city council when this city council continues to vote for surveillance technology

00:16:40.140 that imprisons them. Ms. Campbell, you must work on your Jedi mind tricks. Do it like this. And

00:16:46.200 when you do it, make sure that when you're double speaking them into telling them that police

00:16:51.060 services have become more humanitarian, make sure that you don't emphasize the detail that you put

00:16:58.200 a ban on camping. You put a ban. You made criminalizing homelessness illegal. And that is

00:17:04.480 why there is no such thing as humanitarian policing for the homeless because we have

00:17:10.360 effectively criminalized homelessness which is good now we can staff now we can fill our jails

00:17:16.340 with free prison labor especially like that of the otai mason detention center where they are making

00:17:22.520 one dollar a day for working for 12 hours and there have been multiple cases of tuberculosis

00:17:28.080 Yes, and this is good. This is what the Emperor needs. This technology will help us find the rebel scum and the hidden base on Hoth. This technology will help us find Luke Skywalker as he traverses the universe in his X-Wing. This technology is a necessary, necessary force.

00:17:49.140 isn't that beautiful ladies and gentlemen isn't that exactly what we want to see and that is what

00:17:57.280 we're seeing across the nation i'm not going to advocate for direct action here but plenty of

00:18:02.060 people are you know spraying foam on the things plenty of people are going to city council meetings

00:18:06.100 having their voices being heard and plenty of these things are being kicked out of city straight

00:18:10.380 up people show up i think it was in new jersey get one removed from their town they say no we

00:18:14.380 don't want this here when everyone stands up against something that is the true white pill

00:18:18.480 OK, and this is why we really have to reach consciousness, American consciousness, all being united on working on stopping this stuff, OK, because it's always darkest before the dawn is one of my favorite sayings, and it is very true. Things have to get a lot worse before they get a lot better. And I think we're finally reaching that point as a nation altogether.

00:18:37.060 People don't want license plate readers scanning their children's faces when they're at the pool or at the playground. People don't want license plate readers scanning them, period. I have a Fourth Amendment right to privacy and a First Amendment right to privacy as well. And a Ninth Amendment right, which guarantees that there are rights that are outside of the Constitution that are included, but are also inalienable. Right. You cannot do this to people. The founding fathers anticipated something like this would happen.

00:19:01.320 This is specifically why we have the Ninth Amendment. And the idea this is going on in the land of the free, home of the brave is completely and totally ridiculous. And I think people at a very base level know that people disagree a lot on the Second Amendment. And that really hurts my heart because I'm a massive two way advocate as well.

00:19:18.380 They just the school shooting propaganda, the psychosis propaganda around guns shooting out, you know, a thousand bullets a second and all this insane stuff.

00:19:26.840 When you talk to even a liberal, it's real hard to get them to be pro two way.

00:19:30.220 And trust me, I've been doing like Second Amendment apologetics since I was a little boy.

00:19:33.760 When it comes to First Amendment issues, when it comes to Fourth Amendment issues, when it comes to Ninth Amendment, things that people know they have a right to not be tracked, traced, really raped by a computer overlord system, an AI tech grid.

00:19:45.380 People kind of know this inherently.

00:19:46.800 It's like, hey, why are you watching me all the time?

00:19:49.440 Like, we don't live in that society.

00:19:51.100 We live in a society under God.

00:19:53.380 God is the only one that should watch us.

00:19:55.040 Look at this.

00:19:55.840 Irmo flock cameras hit with orange substance weeks after vote.

00:19:58.960 Oh, how horrible.

00:20:00.220 I hope I sure hope that doesn't happen everywhere they are.

00:20:02.960 You know, some would call that person a patriot.

00:20:05.400 You know, I think I'd call that person a patriot.

00:20:07.520 And look at this creature.

00:20:08.540 That guy is like 90 years old.

00:20:10.140 That's Larry Ellison given 500 million dollars or billion dollars by Trump, along with Sam

00:20:15.760 Altman to, you know, build this giant tech grid. And Trump is a literal iPad kid boomer. What does

00:20:21.620 he know about technology? What does he know about cell phones, tracking, AI, blah, blah, blah? He

00:20:27.260 doesn't know anything about that. He was born in 1946. We've got a dyno writing laws that will

00:20:33.460 impact your great grandchildren when it comes to our technology. And I think this is a key

00:20:38.220 distinction to make. 2016 Trump, this wasn't around. They didn't have this tech. When it wraps

00:20:43.740 back around in 2024 this is why trump for good or for evil he will be known as one of the most

00:20:48.420 important presidents in american history because he's the guy that's ushering all of this in i want

00:20:53.880 to kind of pivot to geopolitics here i want to cover economic d-day which is the scott besant

00:20:59.660 donald trump protocol to strangle iran look at this real quick ai creates 16 new viruses from

00:21:05.220 scratch showing promise for drug resistance and drawing warnings about potential for misuse

00:21:09.360 that's gain of function research that shut down the planet for like two years and killed millions

00:21:14.500 of people. And then they made a vaccine that killed millions, tens of millions more. You can't

00:21:18.960 make this stuff up, folks. Let's go to Scott Bessent on Fox News talking about economic D-Day.

00:21:23.920 One day, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent will lay out a whole new raft of sanctions to isolate

00:21:29.440 Iran. That won't be easy as you look at the map there. Iran shares borders, land borders with

00:21:35.260 seven different countries, not all of whom are sympathetic to the United States. To the north

00:21:40.140 there you see the Caspian Sea. That gives them a direct route into and out of Russia. There's also

00:21:46.900 increasing use of rail links over land to China. So it will be interesting, guys, to see on Monday

00:21:53.500 what proposals Scott Besant may lay out for getting Russia and China on board with a new

00:22:00.260 sanctions regime. Those two, of course, have very little interest in helping the U.S. Back to you

00:22:07.080 guys. Yeah, that's that's hilarious. It's like asking your girlfriend's ex-boyfriend to go to

00:22:12.620 your wedding like that. That makes absolutely zero sense. We've been at war with Russia. We

00:22:16.260 passed over 20 sanctions packages against Russia. Lindsey Graham's dying wish was for the 21st. And

00:22:21.860 China, China has already announced they want nothing to do with this and they won't be involved

00:22:25.840 in it. And I want to do overhead shot. Please show this for Matt Bracken. This is key for everyone

00:22:29.880 to understand. I've shown this again and again and again. We are already in World War III. It's

00:22:34.800 World War E, World War Energy, or World War Epstein. Look at this 500-kilometer zone of

00:22:41.920 constant conflict. Look at the Caspian Sea up here. Look at the Strait of Hormuz, Strait of Malacca.

00:22:47.080 Look at the Strait of Gibraltar over in the Mediterranean. Look at the Babamendab, which is,

00:22:52.600 of course, what the Saudis use to transport millions of barrels of oil a day. The Houthis

00:22:57.000 are implicated in that they're actively fighting the saudis uh whether that's diplomatically or

00:23:01.100 active warfare it's fizzled out we already lost a war to the houthis in 2025 if you remember the

00:23:07.320 motion of the ocean caused one of our f-16s to fall over and fall into the red sea that's the

00:23:13.400 level of failure we're talking about here and this is not something that can be ignored uh or run

00:23:18.020 away from he can't deny it anymore he can't deny that we're in world war three and people say well

00:23:22.600 doesn't affect me i'm fine america's fine is what it is do you enjoy paying the gas prices do you

00:23:28.840 enjoy seeing the explosions on social media every single day do you enjoy the president the peace

00:23:33.620 president lying and taking us to war and killing 165 little girls and killing the pope 200 million

00:23:38.900 muslims once you do these things once you set these things in motion the oil prices aren't transient

00:23:44.740 okay scott besan has come out there and said recently i don't understand why the oil prices

00:23:49.740 aren't going down. It's because nobody believes you anymore when you manipulate the market.

00:23:54.340 Go ahead and show the next clip, which is what's happening in UAE. They're trying to prepare for

00:23:59.100 the incoming, potentially incoming Iranian drones and missiles. And these are being called cope

00:24:04.520 cages, right? Massive cope. You think that's going to stop a FATWA-2 missile? Think that's

00:24:09.400 going to stop, you know, a dozen drones? I don't think so. What happens when all that rebar falls

00:24:13.660 on top of the thing? But it's OK because, you know, we're taking precautions. We're taking steps.

00:24:18.560 people like to act like we're in control whether that's here whether it's over the middle east

00:24:22.760 whether that's in russia china israel iran wherever everyone wants to act like they're in

00:24:27.060 control once you start something like this there are no brakes on the train and maybe the pentagon

00:24:32.680 has some insane ai engine that's predicted that we'll win that will come out on top we'll defeat

00:24:36.940 them for xyz reason like i said predictive power over the future i just don't believe it i don't

00:24:42.820 believe it from a rational calculation we decided on february 28th march 1st trump decided at the

00:24:48.040 orders of Netanyahu, because Trump is his power bottom, he decided to take us to war to kill the

00:24:53.080 Islamic Pope and to blow up their little girl school. Those people are never going to accept

00:24:57.480 peace with us unless we leave their region forever. And if we leave their region forever,

00:25:01.700 they will bomb Israel forever. And that's just not a calculation that Trump is willing to accept

00:25:06.500 because his masters won't allow him to do so. And this is a very clear and obvious reality to me and

00:25:12.020 to everyone else that has observed this situation for a long time. And keep in mind, these wars,

00:25:17.420 like I said, they don't just stay local because it is a world war. What is happening across the

00:25:22.340 planet right now, but specifically to Europe? Human osmotic pressure, as Michael Yon calls it,

00:25:28.440 mass migration, mass migrant flows. You have people surging the border of Spain,

00:25:33.600 surging the border of Europe, coming our way through the Darien Gap because they're running

00:25:37.700 out of food. They're running out of oil. They're running out of supplies. And in a third world

00:25:41.640 hellhole, like a Sudan, like somewhere in North Africa, the only choice is to take the call of

00:25:46.500 the leftist NGO or the Catholic NGO that calls you up and says, hey, we have a credit card for

00:25:51.480 you. We got a boat for you. We got a family ready to take you in. We got tax break for you. We got

00:25:57.060 EBT for you, basically their equivalent. Just go ahead and show up. This is the Spanish mainland

00:26:02.140 right now, OK, because it was in that other town near Morocco, right? They control they have

00:26:06.540 possession of territorial ownership of. But this is on the southern coast of Spain, ladies and

00:26:11.260 gentlemen. This is an invasion. All right. When people show up in a boat and they come to take

00:26:15.980 what's yours. Usually throughout the course of history, you'd fight them. Right. But instead,

00:26:20.160 because of the dodo bird analogy, because that's what we've become in the West, people just kind

00:26:24.360 of blubber about on the beach and say, oh, well, the the new Spaniards, the new Spaniards are here.

00:26:28.660 I'm an old Spaniard. I'm bad. I deserve to be gotten rid of. It's time for the migrants to

00:26:33.280 replace me. And think about this stuff. Right. We had 20 million people enter our country under

00:26:38.600 Biden conservatively. Our president, Joseph Biden, who committed treason, in my view, and just in the

00:26:44.020 of factual americans told illegal immigrants to surge our border and the vast majority of those

00:26:49.720 people are coming from south and central america although there are plenty other people from all

00:26:52.840 around the world 137 countries this is not even that same situation these are people coming from

00:26:58.980 literally the worst places on earth on uh giant zodiac boats being paid for by george soros to

00:27:05.860 come conquer europe again okay and keep in mind the muslims already did this for 400 years uh 732

00:27:12.200 Battle of Tours is when the Europeans started kicking them out. We've seen this story before

00:27:16.620 and they want to play. Oh, it's a good boy narrative. It's all right. They're coming

00:27:20.620 over here to help us out. The longest unbroken slave trade was started by these people, by the

00:27:26.440 North African Arabs. They had millions of white people as slaves. They had millions of black

00:27:30.640 people as well. That's where the transatlantic slave trade started. That's where the people

00:27:34.600 learned it from was from these folks. So it's not a liberal loving culture that's coming to visit

00:27:40.120 you it's an invading force coming to conquer you and if you cared about your country you would stop

00:27:44.640 it the europeans don't really care about their countries i think that's pretty uh fair to say

00:27:48.660 but here in america i do think that we care a little bit more and that's another white pull

00:27:52.800 i want to give you we're not spain just yet but keep in mind and i'm going to get into hassan

00:27:58.120 piker and all this stuff after mark mitchell joins me or maybe during it we'll discuss it all

00:28:02.200 keep in mind this could be coming home to you very soon but i'm being joined now by top pollster

00:28:08.180 mark mitchell been looking to have you on for a while been a huge fan for a very long time

00:28:12.220 he's the founder and head pollster of the honest polling company a new public opinion research

00:28:16.580 firm dedicated to representing the american citizen that's nice and a lot of people

00:28:20.800 representing us right now it will conduct election prediction and public sentiment polling as well as

00:28:25.860 written and video commentary without regard to powerful interests political parties and the

00:28:30.280 washington establishment you were the former head of polling at rat rasmussen which at one time i

00:28:35.520 think was trump's favorite polling place mark thank you for coming on yeah really great to be

00:28:41.100 here i it's awesome meeting you i like the way you think i think we've shared a lot of each other's

00:28:46.100 tweets over the last couple of months for certain yeah no absolutely man and that's what i've that's

00:28:51.000 why it's a joy for me to have you on today i'm just taking i'm sick of people telling me that

00:28:55.780 the the sky is uh red and that the grass is blue and all this insane stuff we try to live in reality

00:29:01.520 Right. And it really hurts my feelings. It hurts my soul as somebody as a 13, 14 year old that got my dad to support Trump. Right. Like no one has, quote unquote, turned against the president or come out against the administration out of some like perverse desire to have like Islamic foot washing stations everywhere.

00:29:18.660 That's not the reality, although they try to sell you that. We were loyal to the message, to the mission, which was America first, making America great again, releasing the Epstein files, stopping the war, cheap energy prices, Americans first period in every single regard. Mark, just what have you seen these past two years?

00:29:36.560 well let me rewind and ask were you one of the original frog guys because i have no problem

00:29:43.400 saying that i was as well because i understood the value of an outsider coming and and attacking

00:29:48.740 and acting as an avatar for the people against a rotten system right and so i was there yeah

00:29:53.940 no here's here's how i see it trump was given like a metaphysical sword like the sword of liberty

00:29:59.680 the lady of the lake like lady liberty gave him this sword and we gave him the sword we're lady

00:30:04.300 liberty, right? That's what America is. It's the people that voted for him, right? And in 2024,

00:30:09.200 he took that agenda, which was so perfect, so beautiful, and completely threw it to the wayside.

00:30:14.340 So yes, I was one of those original people. I recognized when I was sitting in Schlitterbahn

00:30:18.500 Waterpark with my dad, when I'm like 13, 14 years old, watching the first debate, looking at Jeb

00:30:23.640 Bush and looking at Trump, I say, that guy's going to be president. My dad goes, you're stupid. But

00:30:27.960 I was right. And I worked on him for months and months and months. And I finally got him to the

00:30:32.080 degree was like okay i can see it i see how he's gonna win the primary i see how he's gonna win

00:30:36.180 the general and then he had him on his show you know you bring it up so i go i'm gonna have to

00:30:40.460 play the clip play clip number 13 y'all go ahead and play clip number 13 okay great that was his

00:30:46.680 and mine is make america great again so there's a little bit of a difference but my son my son

00:30:52.060 you know finally sold me on being a bigger supporter of yours i mean i liked you love

00:30:55.560 americana you're pure americana but i'm still you know it was research but but my 13 year old son

00:30:59.600 really smart does a lot of research he watches all the debates he just really loves you he is

00:31:03.740 on cloud nine that you're here rex jones and it was his question uh you know which president was

00:31:09.420 your favorite uh but all the time so there's my proof that that's my that's that's my substitute

00:31:15.400 soul reaper card okay like that's that's i've been around for a while i've cared about this

00:31:19.320 stuff for a while but i didn't care about it on the you know ymca dance red tie level i cared

00:31:24.600 about it because i finally saw somebody that came out there and said something different

00:31:28.040 That wasn't promising me lies. And the first election I remember watching was Romney versus Obama. And I paid very careful attention to it. I followed by the candidates. I learned who they were, learned about Mitt Romney, learned about Barack Obama, who, of course, I knew from 2008. And it just was so phony and so fake. And the energy wasn't there. I was like, what is this? We don't have a real choice.

00:31:47.460 And it seems like we're back in that time period because it's not the Trump of 2016 that's challenging the power structure, challenging authority in some ways.

00:31:55.720 And always, I would say he's become the very epitome of the swamp.

00:32:00.520 Yeah, I think he's been captured by a ruling kleptocratic oligarchy is the way that I've been saying it.

00:32:06.860 I don't want that to be the case.

00:32:08.680 And let me just say a little bit about political bias for people who aren't aware is that I'm one of the few pollsters out there that will acknowledge that all pollsters actually are biased.

00:32:18.300 But the whole point is like I talk and I give you my numbers and you can make your own judgment about my numbers and the track record and how it holds up as well as how objective I'm being about the things I talk about.

00:32:30.420 And the reason the Trump administration was important to me and why I have no problems talking about the fact that it was very objectively good for America that Trump won in 2024 was because that all of his policies were more popular than he was.

00:32:45.900 Like, this is the platform that America's wanted.

00:32:48.460 Americans wanted economic reform.

00:32:50.020 They wanted the government held accountable.

00:32:52.200 They really just want to return to order and a restoration of the American dream.

00:32:56.100 And so you have all these people that are now still part of MAGA who feel kind of like they're on a sinking ship, to be honest with you, and unwilling to jump off, not really understanding that criticism of Trump is really the only way that you have to create a feedback loop in order to try and get him back on track for the things that Americans voted for.

00:33:19.460 And it has not really objectively worked very well. I mean, we saw the wheels start to come off really around Liberation Day and Operation Midnight Hammer and then the Epstein stuff and then the stuff he said in October and November.

00:33:32.020 And each of these things ratcheted up the concern, again, not in your person who voted for Romney and was happy about it, but in your person that desperately wanted the people inside the Republican Party, like Romney, like Ryan, to be punished the same way that Trump was doing in those early debates.

00:33:50.460 And that's when he won me over.

00:33:51.920 It was like, I want to see the Republican Party treated with the same disrespect that Trump treated all those people in that primary debate.

00:33:59.180 The word I remember is wrecking ball.

00:34:02.020 I remember everyone saying, yeah, he's going to be a wrecking ball for the system.

00:34:06.500 Yeah, you had Michael Moore say he was going to be a Molotov cocktail or something along those lines rolled down the aisle of Congress.

00:34:13.880 And it's like we can objectively say, well, I will admit that in 2016, my opinion of what was required for a person in the executive was a lower bar.

00:34:24.680 Like we are in a much worse place than we were back then.

00:34:27.300 But I would also say, I think objectively, and the voters agree with me, you know, everybody but about like over 50 percent of Republicans, everybody else says that this administration is worse than the original Trump administration.

00:34:39.800 Right. So he doesn't even have all these Republicans on board.

00:34:44.000 And by a margin of 50 percent to 33 percent, Americans say that he's delivered on his promises less than recent presidents, 50 to 33 percent.

00:34:54.560 So, I mean, you could bring up his approval rating, which is probably around 40, 41 percent, depending on the poll.

00:35:00.820 But there's this aspect of like he isn't delivering on what he promised.

00:35:05.800 And this is like you can argue about the level of deportations every month, and that would be a valid argument.

00:35:11.940 But that's not the way public opinion works.

00:35:13.740 You do not get to pick and choose what you get credit for.

00:35:17.780 And when you have a really hard time being a national leader and staying on message for your agenda that had a mandate, then you are going to piss off a lot of people.

00:35:29.000 They're going to feel like you're putting other interests first.

00:35:30.880 They're going to feel betrayed.

00:35:31.860 They're going to feel like you're not the same human.

00:35:34.320 We actually saw these things very early in the second Trump administration.

00:35:38.600 Remember Zuckerberg?

00:35:39.880 Everybody, including most Democrats, was like, why is Zuckerberg funding elections?

00:35:44.920 That's not right.

00:35:45.640 It was over. It was almost an 80 percent position to get this guy's money out of elections. And then he was one of the first people that got invited to wine and dine. That's like 1890s Gilded Age plutocrat behavior. Yes.

00:35:57.300 seen it over and over again and that's so key to point out and i've been saying this often you know

00:36:01.400 history often rhymes 1929 great depression it feels like we're in the golden age really a gilded age

00:36:06.380 right and i think you describe perfectly the psychosis which is you'll criticize a policy

00:36:11.480 it's like hey i'm anti-war i want cheap energy i want america to be first and when you say those

00:36:16.700 things they go stop attacking the president and you go well if that counts as attacking the

00:36:22.100 president to you don't you understand that you're seeing it through the lens of you're defending

00:36:26.380 your dear leader instead of standing for what we all voted for yeah i i mean one of the

00:36:33.300 conversations that sticks out to me most that i had with your dad is about whether trump had said

00:36:39.720 well he wants to be on mount rushmore and i think it's important to point out that there are two

00:36:44.400 republican presidents on mount rushmore one of them is lincoln and he suspended habeas corpus

00:36:48.460 and fought the civil war and emancipated the slaves and it's like okay like good job buddy

00:36:54.760 like you deserve it the other one is teddy roosevelt and apparently trump really likes

00:36:59.940 teddy roosevelt i haven't been there but apparently he has the teddy roosevelt room

00:37:04.180 designed really nicely and this guy inherited a very similar situation he had a degradation of

00:37:12.340 the american culture due to a mass influx of immigrants who were undercutting wages he had

00:37:17.740 a concentration of wealth and power uh he had basically oligarchs popping up everywhere oligarchies

00:37:24.560 They literally were writing songs back in the 1890s and 1900s, popular songs about how monopolies needed to be busted up and like, you know, the hand that holds the bread.

00:37:34.800 There are some like, you know, this is a major part of what they were dealing back there with back then, is that basically your American citizen had absolutely no economic power or freedom because these people were making backroom smoke filled deals.

00:37:50.280 And that's the way the government was run.

00:37:51.660 And you know what he did is he came in and said, you know what? No, America is supposed to be fair and everybody needs a square deal. You know what I mean? It can't just be like, you know, survival of the fittest capitalism and expect things to come out. Okay. And people called him the great regulator because he thought that the government's role was to regulate everything and make sure that there was opportunity for people.

00:38:15.220 And right now, you know, it's great. We had Trump as an economic populace, but if you go to literally any Republican on the Hill in a think tank on a staffer position and ask them, do we want more or less regulations? They would say, well, obviously we need to deregulate. And it's like, really? You know what I mean? Like, has that worked out for us over the last 40 years?

00:38:38.600 And free trade and globalization and offshoring. But like 99 cents out of every dollar that gets spent of Republican donor bucks that goes to think tanks for economics is all to support those self same ideologies that have, in my opinion, assisted the Democrats in hollowing out the middle class for the last 30 or 40 years.

00:39:00.600 and so like i had the chance as i talked about with your dad to to talk with trump and say

00:39:08.020 almost a year ago that he was going to lose and if he didn't like if he couldn't stay on focus

00:39:14.600 with the economic populist and government reform mandate and and it's like every day you have to

00:39:20.280 wake up and hammer that and you could get away with other stuff you could probably have gotten

00:39:24.280 away with iran if it hadn't you know done damage to the global economy but it just hasn't been a

00:39:30.480 focus it's not what he's interested in and it's not what the people who surround him are interested

00:39:34.700 in it's not what's fox news certainly is interested in fox news is one of their jobs in my opinion is

00:39:40.960 to run cover for the the the republican leaning it's like north it's like north korean media

00:39:46.320 let's just be honest it's like hail the dear leader he makes the birds sing in the morning

00:39:50.520 He played a perfect game of golf when he was five years old.

00:39:53.240 And it seems to me, and you're the expert in this, this is what I want to ask you.

00:39:57.320 It seems to me there's one demographic in this country, specifically the boomers, the

00:40:01.020 older people that have fallen for this hook, line and sinker.

00:40:03.520 And what I think it comes down to is like, I'm 23, about to be 24 years old.

00:40:07.920 I look at people that are millennials.

00:40:09.160 I look at people that are Gen X.

00:40:10.680 And although they had a longer period in the country where things were truly good and things

00:40:14.880 were cheap and you really had that advancement, still the vestiges of the American dream,

00:40:18.960 uh we've all grown up or grown old in a time period where the country is really declining and

00:40:24.140 it seems like there's this one group that is both insulated enough because of stock market purchases

00:40:28.960 because of homes because of xyz they've had time to get established where they can take the pain

00:40:33.720 of the war they can take the pain of the bad economy and they can justify it by saying i

00:40:37.840 remember the america of the 1970s 1980s we were the true global hegemon we're the true kings and

00:40:44.180 queens of earth we could go around like roman citizens with our passports and do whatever we

00:40:48.320 And I think they still have this perception of America as being in that 20th century time period when we're at. We're a nation that's been at war for over 30 years. We're a nation that's in $40 trillion of debt. We're a nation that's taken on tens of millions of illegal migrants. We're a nation that's expanded H-1B programs. We've got people flooding in from all over the planet, all over the world.

00:41:09.400 And you have Americans that not only vote for Trump, but a majority. He wins the popular vote in 2024, running on securing the border. No new wars, peace through strength, economic stability. And I just see all four of those pillars is totally violated. And I think it does stem from that population of older folks.

00:41:28.280 I want to show crew, if we can get this up, footage of this latest rally. And it's the same thing I noticed about Byron Donald. It's the same thing I noticed about Ed Gowron. You go to these rallies or you watch videos of these rallies. The median age is probably 75 years old. And I just I want to play this clip of this this rally and this lady talking about her views on Trump here. Let's roll those back to back.

00:41:48.580 I want to support our president. He needs our support now more than ever because he's got a

00:42:00.600 fight on his hands against communism, against liberal, far leftist. He's got to know that

00:42:07.660 the American people still support him. So I look back at 2024 where the back of the Democratic

00:42:13.860 Party was broken. Joe Biden live on air, 404 error code, steam shooting out of his ears,

00:42:19.740 sparks coming out. He implodes. Kamala, Easter Bunny. Exactly. Dapping up the Easter Bunny. And

00:42:24.920 then you got Kamala Harris, who is soundly defeated. You have the Republicans in ascendancy.

00:42:29.340 I thought they were going to reign for a thousand years. But now the only people that are still able

00:42:34.100 to justify what the administration is doing, they're just parroting the talking points. And

00:42:38.000 it's like, hey, you're afraid of the communists, right? Hey, you're afraid of the socialists,

00:42:41.520 right they're coming in to get you these people were destroyed merely two years ago now they're

00:42:46.120 in ascendancy within the youth simply because the older population specifically the 60 out of 99

00:42:51.400 senators that are boomers that struck down the war powers resolution our president trump born

00:42:55.740 in 1946 they're focused on their old world view what's your opinion of that i mean this is the

00:43:02.000 fight of the entire future of the right that we're talking about and it is 100 true now before i get

00:43:08.880 into the age discussion i want to be very clear is that these are directional trends and by no

00:43:14.980 means are all boomers like this sure there is really kind of like a break point at around the

00:43:19.500 age 50 and it really is kind of like did you grow up with the internet or not is what separates a

00:43:24.920 lot of this do you watch fox news or are you on twitter it very much in my opinion and the polling

00:43:30.060 supports it affects what these people care about now they so what you're seeing now is that trump

00:43:37.280 undermined a 2024 coalition that included a lot more Democrats, independents, socialists,

00:43:45.620 brown people, like just a lot more of those kind of folks, young people than your average

00:43:50.680 Republican electorate has been, right?

00:43:53.160 You got about 60 million of these boomers and silence and older Gen X's that will turn

00:43:57.860 out no matter what for a Republican ticket.

00:43:59.820 And in fact, Trump probably lost some of them because he wasn't presidential or whatever,

00:44:03.320 right?

00:44:03.540 And those people do support mass deportations. They do support like most MAGA things. They will talk about wanting to be put first economically. But at the same time, they're also more likely to do things like support the wars.

00:44:18.160 Like there's about 60 percent of current Republicans that do support the wars and stuff like that and do say that Trump is still doing a great job.

00:44:26.840 And a lot of it is because either, again, their news consumption patterns or because they're not aware of how bad it is for the youth or because they it doesn't affect them.

00:44:36.320 Right. And these people are very pro-capitalist.

00:44:39.400 And what you're seeing is that the under 40 voter now, socialism and capitalism are tied.

00:44:44.740 In fact, socialism wins under 40. It's tied with the 40 to 50 rules, right?

00:44:49.340 Now, everybody thinks we live in a capitalist system, but the under 40 voters overwhelmingly by almost a 7 out of 10 in margin think that our current capitalist system is unfair to young people.

00:45:01.160 And we know why. We have tons of polling, and obviously it's about their inability to get good-paying jobs, and it's about the housing market.

00:45:07.720 and it's a and if you look at things like housing market there is a very big incentive

00:45:12.200 to lean into sort of the boomer side of that equation and as trump has done multiple times

00:45:18.140 and as i told him it was unwise to do and i'm not saying like crash the housing market but again it's

00:45:23.880 like this is about how you talk about the future of the country under republican governance he

00:45:29.000 brags about it and the things that he said you're just saying like you're telling these people

00:45:33.140 there's no room for you in the future that republicans envision that's what they're hearing

00:45:37.300 And it's the same on the war, same on H-1Bs, student visas, all of these things.

00:45:42.680 The 50-year mortgage was a slap in the face.

00:45:45.920 But my point is everything I'm talking about is about messaging.

00:45:50.220 It's not about whether you did or did not bring down the price of eggs.

00:45:54.000 It's about whether you're going to actually come out and support workers and appear to be at least somewhat inconvenient to large corporations who have gotten their way over and over again.

00:46:04.580 And the problem is, is that the older people, again, love capitalism, think it's been working, think Trump can do no wrong, and don't really care about the under-40 messaging.

00:46:13.740 And I will say, like, on some of these things, they're catching up.

00:46:16.440 So, like, we just asked about Israel versus Palestine support not too long ago, and only 34% of people support Israel now.

00:46:24.580 It's in the low 20s, I think.

00:46:26.260 I think it was 24% among Zoomers.

00:46:29.240 But the boomers are down to 52.

00:46:32.560 And so they've come a long way. Like we're getting to a place where a lot of them sort of are like, quote unquote, waking up. But the problem is, is it's like you have this like voting preference, you know, what becomes the the core of the party's message.

00:46:49.200 And right now, what we're seeing is because we haven't had that great of a Trump second term, objectively, based on the polling, that they're reverting their messages to unhelpful boomer-focused messages that are going to make the ability to get these youth back into the coalition very hard.

00:47:07.680 Yes.

00:47:07.740 And just to give you an example, it's like those people are crazy socialists, and they want to put you in a ditch and shoot you, and it's an existential fight between conservatism and socialism.

00:47:19.000 I'm sorry, but the under 40 voter, half of the voters that went to Trump under 40 say they would support socialists and they actually overwhelmingly support socialistic policies like wealth redistribution.

00:47:31.740 They just do. They want capitalism and they're not socialists, but they say they would vote for somebody branded as a socialist.

00:47:39.960 And so, like, it's a very nuanced thing to unpack.

00:47:43.100 So it's like you look at Hassan Piker and he does want to put you in a ditch and shoot you.

00:47:46.520 he does and some of these dsa candidates are 100 marxist trojan horses and some of their voters

00:47:53.380 are insane and violent they absolutely are and are are socialists and want the state to run the

00:47:58.460 economy but not most of them most of them are saying socialist because they just think that

00:48:03.820 that's why like you know norway has good health care right like that's what what they really want

00:48:09.060 and and most of the people under 40 are not ideological like you say conservatism to them

00:48:15.220 that are like well screw you conservatism doesn't work why would i support it what these people are

00:48:20.880 is they want accountability and brutal action and so when you look at all these things like um like

00:48:26.600 doge was most popular with the under 40 voter arresting people for things like the auto pen or

00:48:33.120 the rate of mar-a-lago like overwhelmingly the younger people are more likely to want arrests

00:48:38.360 blowing up narco boats it was most popular with people under 40 and so when you say well we have

00:48:44.640 to be a constitutional conservative country and you know what i mean and but like there's there's

00:48:51.120 so many problems what's going on so now it's like let me come in here really quick it's really about

00:48:55.580 getting back on message right like that's what people like they say criticize trump i really am

00:49:00.220 against trump now i have to be honest because i think he's aiding and abetting a genocide that

00:49:03.700 netanyahu is doing you talk about fighting the cartels we spent over a hundred billion dollars

00:49:08.960 not including destroyed bases radars planes missile defense air interceptors blah blah blah

00:49:13.440 We spent over $100 billion fighting a 39 day war with Iran. Why can't we fight the cartel in Mexico? Why can't we fight the cartel in South America? That's not the priority. And I think it's key to point out, talk about oligarchy earlier. We live in a mixed economy where this is not capitalism. When the government owns NVIDIA, when the government invests in AI and does all these things, that ultimately is the kleptocracy oligarchy that you're talking about.

00:49:38.780 So when you tell young people this is capitalism, when it's really not, when you tell young people this is the fighting, it's communism, when it's really not, it's about enriching and grifting, right, for the administration, in my view.

00:49:49.240 When that is the messaging, of course you're going to have young people that don't know anything about politics that are going to sign up with Hassan Piker because at least he's saying something different.

00:49:57.540 And ultimately what it comes down to, I like this analogy, that lady, the lake that gave Trump that sword. It was a weapon. OK, it was a weapon to slash the swamp, to defeat the swamp. And he turned around and he used that blade on us. But before so in 2016, 2020, of course, his entire thing of calling out the leftists from day one, he used that same sword on them. So they were wounded in a justifiable way. But now they can say, look at my wound. You have the same wound from the same sword. Don't you want to pledge yourself to me and my banner?

00:50:25.720 And this is why I really think we do need that new side of the right, the Tucker, MTG, Joe Kent wing to really come forward and make themselves prominent because they can say, hey, we were wounded by the same weapon and we were wounded in an unjustifiable way, just like you were.

00:50:39.020 We were loyal to the promises of the administration.

00:50:41.320 We were loyal to peace through strength, no new wars, bring an economic prosperity back.

00:50:45.260 And instead of getting that, we were kicked out of Congress.

00:50:48.280 We had to resign on principle X, Y, Z.

00:50:51.060 I mean, look at him up there.

00:50:51.780 He was given that blade by the American people, the Lady of the Lake, Lady Liberty, and he turned around and he rammed that sword through our gut.

00:50:58.980 And the only people that don't see it that way are over the age of 50.

00:51:02.360 And that's kind of just the reality.

00:51:03.860 And I've done these street interviews.

00:51:05.400 I've talked to these people, and they'll say, Iran is the evil theocracy.

00:51:09.340 We must do anything to stop them because the Ayatollah runs around with the club and boxed women on the head.

00:51:14.240 In reality, we're fighting.

00:51:15.560 47 years.

00:51:16.180 Yeah.

00:51:17.120 Hold on.

00:51:17.760 It's a 47-year war, but it's also not a war.

00:51:21.060 We might have to fight it another 20 years, though. And you're like, what? I thought we were going to stop foreign wars. I thought we were going to abolish foreign entanglements. I thought we were actually going to make MAGA, make America great again, have MAGA. It's turned into MAGA, make Israel great again. And the president, he he let it slip. He said, make Iran great again. I think we all really know what that means.

00:51:41.400 And it's really disgusting to me specifically as a young person, as someone that wants to be an American.

00:51:45.820 I want to have that like a Roman level of sovereignty to see my nation brought low and made to fight these foreign wars, not just right now, but over the past 30 years to ensure another country's regional and eventually global hegemony.

00:51:59.640 And I think young people are waking up to that.

00:52:01.420 You had that poll talking about the Israel versus Palestine issue, of course, and young people was a number again for that.

00:52:06.900 down to about one in four zoomers support israel over palestine and palestine i think was in the

00:52:13.020 40s so it ain't overwhelmingly popular a lot of people are saying not sure but the message is

00:52:18.160 that inexorably over the last three years israel has literally destroyed its support yes to the

00:52:23.880 level where depending on the poll four to one people think five to one i think it was israel

00:52:29.380 had too much influence in the trump administration and that's a dangerous place to be it simply put

00:52:34.060 it's live stream genocide and the thing is when you have young people under the age of 50 that

00:52:38.280 were raised with the internet know how to use a cell phone it's undeniable the weapons that we

00:52:42.680 give them what they use them for they murder little children they carpet bomb cities and they

00:52:47.700 want to say there's not a genocide they want to say only 30 000 people have died but then 80 000

00:52:52.440 people have died in iran and they just throw these numbers out like nobody's going to notice and i

00:52:56.860 gotta say i mean i got a mexican friend who works at a taco trump or taco truck voted for trump in

00:53:02.300 2024. I got my co-host Tim

00:53:04.320 Tompkins, a black guy from New York who voted for Trump

00:53:06.360 after being a lifelong Democrat. You got

00:53:08.440 those people on board because they believed

00:53:10.580 in the promise of actually having that peaceful

00:53:12.500 prosperous nation and that's the exact

00:53:14.480 opposite of what we've gotten.

00:53:16.440 What do you think the moment was

00:53:18.660 for Trump where he truly lost all that support?

00:53:20.720 Was it Operation Midnight Hammer with

00:53:22.480 the young people? Was it the Iran war starting

00:53:24.560 February 28th? Was it before that?

00:53:26.560 Was it another policy? What sticks out

00:53:28.520 to you as a pollster as a watershed moment?

00:53:32.300 Let me just say one thing first.

00:53:34.100 I agree with 100% of what you're saying, and not all boomers think like that, but the reason we single them out is because there is a very specific set of boomer arguments, which are colloquially referred to as the same set.

00:53:47.980 You know, the pull yourself up by your bootstraps, Iran has been in a war for 47 years with us.

00:53:53.340 And the reason why there's a problem here is that because when you stack rank a video of murdering children against some Fox News generated boomer argument or somebody like Dan Bongino going out and doing Air Ninja against the Black Pillars, like, guess which one is going to win that argument?

00:54:13.700 And so there's an aspect of inauthenticity about this administration that makes them feel like a boomer focused administration because they're, yeah, they're like, they're referring to 20, 30, 40 year old talking points.

00:54:25.620 They're hearkening back to the days of 2003 when Republicans were all supposed to hate Muslims, but I'm old enough to remember when we had Muslims for Trump in Dearborn, Michigan and stuff like that.

00:54:35.520 Right. And everybody was all happy about that. And it was only two years ago. So something has flipped.

00:54:39.860 And I do think part of that is that we are there's the fourth turning coming. I think there's going to be a youth political revolution because about two million boomers die a year and about four million young people are added to the electorate every year.

00:54:53.620 That's like a 6 million vote net impact in an electorate that's only 150 million people, and it's going to accelerate.

00:55:00.500 And these people, again, the millennials specifically were brought up 9-11.

00:55:07.060 They were brought up through COVID.

00:55:08.720 They were brought up through all of the statist overreaches of the Biden administration.

00:55:12.840 They've seen a lot of psychological operations, and they are very, very, very good at spotting when somebody has somebody else's interest.

00:55:20.180 And so this is, in my opinion, one of the critical failures of the Trump administration. And your question about when did it happen? I think it was a very gradual process. Right. And I think it's been some waking up. Like, I think the first sign, like we all saw things like, oh, John Thune got selected. OK, well, maybe it's not that bad. Right.

00:55:38.180 or you know like all the early stuff it was definitely being overpowered by the project

00:55:45.240 2025 executive orders is definitely being overpowered by the stuff that elon had said

00:55:50.600 but the first big rug pull was doge because doge said they're going to cut a trillion dollars in

00:55:55.100 deficit it had huge support 72 percent of america wanted doge style audits in every federal

00:56:00.040 government and everybody thinks that the complete the government is just completely full of waste

00:56:04.460 for an abuse that was the best thing republicans ever had they had a 60 youth approval rating and

00:56:09.840 as far as i can tell trump and republicans killed doge behind the scenes because they were not

00:56:15.660 willing to deal with either the political blowback of firing federal workers but i think the young

00:56:21.140 people wanted to drink the tears of federal workers and it was your msnbc karen who didn't

00:56:25.580 like the idea of these people being fired i'm generalizing here um and like these people wanted

00:56:31.460 a caesar in march these younger people wanted a caesar and trump did have an opportunity as i told

00:56:36.300 him because we asked a question about trump's quote does he does he who saved his country

00:56:42.580 violate no laws and i'm pretty sure it was close to 60 of the under 40s that agreed with that but

00:56:47.980 it was like maybe in the 30s among older people the older people are like no the system still

00:56:52.020 works and that's like ultimately the problem why there's going to be a youth uprising because

00:56:56.460 boomers in the silent generation hold pretty close to 65 percent of the wealth in this country

00:57:01.720 but guess what they also receive about 60 percent of the entitlement programs and so there's right

00:57:08.560 you see the problem can i come in here getting the yeah i'm never getting these entitlement

00:57:12.700 programs i'm not getting social security i'm not getting medicare i'm not getting medicaid and

00:57:16.560 i understand why that is but the average voter average young voter doesn't get that and i want

00:57:21.180 to come in and talk about this three takeaways from what you just said when we talk about the

00:57:25.000 boomer thing. I understand not all boomers. We can't use it as a monolith. Got plenty of people

00:57:29.260 that are older and awake and are also in the fight and want the truth and want to stop the wars and

00:57:33.220 want to bring prosperity back to America. But the neocon spirit exists and was generated by that

00:57:38.880 generation. This is the key. We were in ascendancy. We were the world hegemon after World War II that

00:57:43.560 their parents fought in. And it's kind of this stolen valor that was carried forward and they

00:57:47.860 hold it over our head as an excuse. But we don't live in the same country anymore. The demographics

00:57:51.580 aren't the same the culture is not the same the spirit's not the same and when you have somebody

00:57:55.800 like lindsey graham and all these other never trumpers who you i know you remember because i

00:58:00.060 remember as well all these people who literally ran against trump who hated trump they are now

00:58:04.500 the only people that he has left and this is what's truly shocking to the younger voter right

00:58:10.120 i'm a fan of thomas massey i'm a fan of mtg i'm a fan of tucker these are trump's you know not

00:58:15.080 massey but mtg and tucker these are really trump's most staunch loyal people that he relied on and

00:58:20.080 depended on during his darkest hour during his darkest day and now all the same people that were

00:58:25.800 laughing and clinking champagne glasses when he was indicted were saying he was going to go to jail

00:58:29.980 forever those people are now in the white house or on the phone with him or giving him orders and

00:58:35.040 what you're really talking about here with all this stuff with the youth getting upset enough

00:58:38.560 to do something about it is the super cycle you call it the fourth turning i like to call it the

00:58:42.900 super cycle we're coming up against that now you can feel it you can taste it in the air and there

00:58:47.480 are still people that are covering their hand in front of their eyes and they can't see the

00:58:51.940 writing on the wall. It's obvious to you. It's obvious to me because we cover this stuff every

00:58:56.560 single day. You at a much deeper level. Is it undeniable at this point? I mean, something messy

00:59:03.360 is going to happen because all the metrics have just been getting worse and worse. We got up to

00:59:07.240 43 percent of Americans thought a civil war was likely in the next couple of years. And if you

00:59:12.400 ask Americans who their biggest enemies are and include the Republican and Democrat Party,

00:59:17.480 You get China, Democrats, Russia, then Republicans, basically is how it shakes out, depending on when you ask the question.

00:59:23.760 Iran, by the way, is like fifth or sixth.

00:59:26.200 Nobody cares about Iran, obviously, because they're worried about domestic policy.

00:59:30.500 They're worried more about domestic terrorism than foreign terrorism by almost three to one.

00:59:34.960 And it's like I think what we're going to see, I think the young people are smart enough to know this and are starting to pick this up, which is why we can get to it.

00:59:44.320 I'm very positive and optimistic about what Tucker's doing for a very specific reason.

00:59:49.900 But when they – I think it's fair to say that both establishment parties, the Republicans and Democrats, are owned by corporate interests.

00:59:58.460 They might have their pet industries, but they're both part of the uniparty kleptocracy.

01:00:03.160 So when people say uniparty, there is this red-blue kabuki theater specifically to maintain corporate status quo.

01:00:09.840 now there is in the presidency a lot of power to do things from a foreign policy perspective

01:00:16.220 and so when you get a democrat or republican those things the pendulum does swing and i think it's

01:00:22.080 fair to say that the the general uh impetus behind democrat neoconservatism is the bolsheviks that

01:00:28.760 are anti-stalinist russia that still want to wage a land war with nato and take over russia because

01:00:33.660 that's what we saw under biden right right and then on under republicans it's increasingly

01:00:38.040 Zionist neoconservatives who want to use their influence over the government to fight,

01:00:42.680 to blow up brown people in the Middle East, basically, right? And so that is the system

01:00:47.920 that we're captured under. And we're starting to see the tactics they use. So the Bolsheviks

01:00:52.500 will unhuman the right and call them MAGA extremists and shoot Charlie Kirk and talk

01:00:59.800 about how CEOs need to die. And it's effective because the blue people drink up this brainwashing

01:01:05.980 and they have this violent tendency but they're also very afraid of the right that the left is

01:01:11.820 more afraid of the right than the right is of the left and then on the right what you have is

01:01:17.320 basically oh they're all muslims and all muslims have to go and we you know like these things like

01:01:23.340 oh they're socialists they want to put you in a ditch and and shoot you and so there's these very

01:01:27.600 divisive scare tactics that i think have been used partly out of expediency partly to cover for their

01:01:34.320 own failures, but also to make sure that there isn't a threat to the status quo by some

01:01:41.120 type of collaboration or coalition of specifically, it would be the youth because they're more

01:01:47.760 angry with the system.

01:01:49.040 They have less to live for.

01:01:50.700 Increasingly, they're underemployed and they're not getting married and they're a powder keg.

01:01:55.180 And at the same time, they are not, again, a monolith.

01:01:58.460 So remember, the under 40 Trump voter is very socialistic and they are they're all very extreme in what level of force they want applied in order to correct the system.

01:02:09.520 I did some polling that showed that 55 percent of under 40 conservatives actually said they would support putting control of the legislative process in the United States at a federal level in charge of an governed by an advanced AI.

01:02:25.260 so they literally want mecca hitler like that's we talked about it on the show back in the fall

01:02:29.880 and so that's not conservatives need to win and socialists need to go into a ditch that is not

01:02:36.820 what we're talking about and it's not even deport all muslims because sharia law is our biggest

01:02:40.920 threat in america like these people see the government as a threat they see people getting

01:02:46.220 away with murder at a federal government level is a threat they see these big corporations as

01:02:50.360 a threat and they don't think the system works for them so now when you look at a tucker i think

01:02:54.960 something very important is going on because this is a fourth turning thing so we have a post world

01:02:59.260 war ii um era of peace and harmony and social cohesion because we went through a major crisis

01:03:04.760 and they formed the people who did that formed strong institutions and they institutions tend

01:03:11.580 to be focused on on principles things like you know spreading democracy things like remembering

01:03:18.060 the holocaust and being uh free market conservatives and those things have failed

01:03:24.160 Like they're falling apart. Like our systems don't have integrity anymore. And this is the cycle you're talking about. And so what happens is you get leaders from a younger generation who realize that these the core of our society has no morals and values and they build new institutions around morals and values.

01:03:42.600 So what did Tucker come out with? Everybody's like, well, there's no policies. How can you govern with that? Well, no, he put out the morals and values that many people can agree with. And the reason I think, just to give you an example, that's very important, is that Trump had a policy, for instance, mass deportations.

01:03:58.720 And he didn't really say like, like, you know, he's like, we got to get them out and they're violent criminals.

01:04:03.820 And like he had reasons. Right. But I think a lot of people mapped onto that.

01:04:09.360 Well, it's because the rule of law or it's because it's fair and it's not fair to me that they're here.

01:04:15.180 And then it's like, OK, well, when he turns and no longer supports full deportations and actually supports a lot of these people who are hard workers and wants a path of amnesty for them, then clearly it wasn't about the fairness.

01:04:27.280 you know what i mean because now all of a sudden it's fairness to the illegal is what we're worried

01:04:31.700 about and so all of a sudden like this is what's driving these betrayals is that people mapped all

01:04:37.120 these morals and values the younger people onto trump's policies and it turns out that in many

01:04:42.040 cases it was just a load of crap that's super key that's super key the older voter has just this

01:04:47.600 faith in the system oh they're gonna figure it out it's designed to work we're gonna have you know

01:04:52.060 just this general evolution where things get better the young people say general evolution

01:04:56.080 where things get better things have gotten worse for my entire life and like myself as a small

01:05:00.480 business owner okay i sell retail goods i sell supplements i ship them and manufacture them i do

01:05:04.720 the whole thing nose to tail and consumer sentiment about buying products is now basically at an all

01:05:10.560 time low and i'm seeing this where i was doing business under biden i was mad at biden i thought

01:05:15.620 it was bad i mean holy hell look at what we have now and i got friends losing jobs i got friends

01:05:20.760 losing family members to drugs all the same problems and they're essentially just telling

01:05:24.840 you to work harder and figure it out. And it's like you're saying, young people aren't trying

01:05:28.480 to vote for liberalism or conservatism. They're either voting for like a Hassan Piker communist

01:05:33.480 land or Mecca Hitler. And it's just it's a it's a completely foreign world to somebody that was

01:05:39.200 born immediately after World War Two, in my view and opinion. And here's why that matters even

01:05:43.200 more so than the voters. That's who we have in office right now. That's what the president is.

01:05:47.820 What do you think about that? It's 100 percent and it's going to change and it's going to change

01:05:52.100 very fast. Just like the other numbers, over 60% of our legislated federal representatives are

01:06:00.480 boomers or silent generation. I think it's like single digits are Zoomers and millennials. It

01:06:06.000 might be over 10% now. Well, that's going to flip in about 10 years. And you're starting to see a

01:06:12.080 cycle in 28 where you're going to have the first leading candidates for president are going to be

01:06:16.720 millennials. And that's going to be very new because we can all look at JD and say, well,

01:06:20.040 depending on what you think of him or even what his positions are he talks very differently than

01:06:25.400 trump and he put definitely is worried about young people and reflects this uh you know need

01:06:32.400 to put the constituent first and i think you could say that about the dsa people as well because

01:06:37.480 you know it's like people just don't get this but trump had a 60 approval rating with the under 40

01:06:42.960 voter and so did mom donnie six months later you know what i mean like it's just like you can call

01:06:48.280 a muslim all you want but at the end of the day these young people are kind of tired of that crap

01:06:52.840 it's about populism it's about populism they want an america that works and i think they're

01:06:59.240 increasingly seeing through things like oh the lgbt culture war issue it's like fine yes a

01:07:05.060 majority of people are against transing the kids in the united states but at the end of the day

01:07:09.260 if that's going to be your platform nancy mace it's like you're not speaking to the things that

01:07:13.360 these people care about you just you're not so i mean like i don't know how republicans get them

01:07:19.200 out of this particular situation they're in because they basically like screwed the pooch

01:07:23.000 in a way that's going to be looked back as like just this legendary miscalculation of the american

01:07:28.700 people and it's like because of people like me like they had warning like i was you asked before

01:07:34.860 when did it really hit the fan so like doge people like uh and some people tuned out right

01:07:41.040 Then Liberation Day happened, and some people were like, oh, that's kind of chaotic, and some people tuned out.

01:07:45.860 But Trump did have a plus four net approval rating the day before Israel started the 12-day war in June of 2025, and it immediately went down to negative eight.

01:07:55.680 There was a 12-point drop in like a three-week period.

01:07:58.540 Now, it's hard to say it's all Operation Midnight Hammer because the one big beautiful bill was getting pushed through at the same time.

01:08:02.960 Nobody really cared, and then Epstein hit.

01:08:05.440 And so Epstein was so bad. This case closed. Pam Bondi has to be like some kind of like subversive agent because she had some of the most egregious, symbolic counter signaling statements. Case closed was one of them. And we went into the field and found out that only 20 percent of Republicans agree that the case was closed. And it's like everybody thinks there's wealthy and powerful people that are predators that need to go to jail. It was like over 70 percent.

01:08:32.540 That's what made me done with it. That's what made me done with it for good forever. That's what made me leave support of the administration in any regard was, hey, you have Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi, like get Kash Patel, Dan Bongino specifically running on this to get their appointments.

01:08:46.840 And then you have Pam Bondi who says, I have the files on my desk. I've seen the tapes, the videos of thousands of hours of child porn. And they say, oh, Epstein's not even a pedophile. Have you heard this?

01:08:57.980 we like my polling in my opinion showed that about five to ten percent of independents just

01:09:06.100 checked out and never came back from a trump approval perspective right after the epstein

01:09:10.100 thing and everybody was talking about it it's like and of course i was called to panic in

01:09:14.060 everybody who said something even again even though it was only a 20 position in the republican

01:09:19.280 party there was a coordinated online press by maga influencers and probably some foreign bots

01:09:24.820 to you know really like say no nothing to see here like we don't worry we're the epstein's not

01:09:32.120 this isn't what people voted for remember like trump never said epstein and like it was just

01:09:38.260 obviously not going to work right and then there were other things along the way but by the time

01:09:43.080 i got to talk to trump in november remember he had gone after massey so hard and mtg that he had

01:09:48.740 basically made them the primary enemies of his administration yes and these were people that

01:09:53.700 like Americans, whether you like Massey or not, it's like, well, he did stand up for America with

01:09:58.180 the Epstein Transparency Act and Marjorie Taylor Greene was like OG MAGA. And it's like, these

01:10:03.520 things matter when you fight MTG and Massey more than you do John Thune, who is not putting any of

01:10:09.360 your legislative agenda through like what's going on here when you're endorsing rhinos up and down

01:10:15.780 all these tickets and fighting MTG and Massey. So one of the things I said to Trump is like,

01:10:20.040 listen you have to present a coherent vision going forward of what republican governance looks like

01:10:24.960 you got to stop gaslighting people that it's the golden age already just because like what you said

01:10:30.160 all of the consumer sentiment and all like there's a million poll numbers you know 58 percent of

01:10:36.120 americans say that in the last 12 months they've changed their grocery shopping habits because

01:10:40.140 they can't afford food anymore like all these numbers are just egregiously bad so you're gonna

01:10:44.360 say we're in a golden age and then fight the very people that americans are looking to for

01:10:50.480 leadership because you're screwing up your own agenda and i and i told them it's like you got

01:10:55.220 to fight fight fight for the american people and not for not against mtg and epstein right like

01:11:01.140 it was like water off a duck's back like it just wasn't like it was no no of course i'm going to

01:11:06.020 continue to fight they're my biggest enemy like i and and and so what we've seen since then is just

01:11:12.120 this increasingly horrifying circular firing squad where there's there's grifters foreign

01:11:19.860 influence and probably some like political action committee funded bots who are just very committed

01:11:26.280 to making sure magus stays a very particular thing and i mean it's just it's a cult now it's

01:11:32.780 become a cult fully because what's the rule the main what's the main rule of the cult you can't

01:11:36.820 criticize the leader right and you can't criticize trump and he attacks people like tucker mtg my

01:11:43.180 father thomas massey you just go down list you name it everyone that he's tweeted about and i'm

01:11:47.220 about to read one of these tweets here he attacks them in the same way that he attacks the democrats

01:11:51.460 like they're equivalent and when you do that to the independent voter if it was a tucker that

01:11:56.260 brought him in or an alex jones that brought him in or thomas massey that brought him into the

01:12:00.040 coalition like wow you're ragging on my favorite person that sold me you as a political product

01:12:06.400 because they believed in your platform and now you've completely divorced yourself from that

01:12:09.980 political platform you're attacking them you're attacking the democrats why should i care about

01:12:14.380 anything the gop ever has to say again you made a key point earlier i'm going to read this tucker

01:12:18.900 or tweet about tucker mtg in a second from the president where he says praise allah to tucker

01:12:23.580 mtg and massey we'll get into that what are we doing man i know it dude it's it's like waking

01:12:28.780 up every day and being on hallucinogenic drugs watching is this not insane like we were not

01:12:34.420 expecting this right this is the guy that was the the king of twitter right you cannot be the king

01:12:41.980 of twitter without astutely understanding public opinion and like learning from the feedback loop

01:12:48.100 that is an open dialogue he is in an echo chamber quite objectively i think right now because

01:12:53.260 remember in 2016 who is he fighting he was fighting obama he was fighting neoconservatives

01:12:59.040 and he's fighting rosie o'donald on twitter those were the people he was fighting and now it's like

01:13:03.660 like your dad and tucker like what are we doing here like what are this is who his biggest enemies

01:13:09.140 are right now and the biggest rift i hate to say it but the biggest rift between the people who are

01:13:14.160 on his list of enemies and the people who are on his side now his friends is one little postage

01:13:20.940 stamp in the levant like that's the problem in my opinion yes it's a problem where we have the

01:13:27.340 kabuki theater like you say of all the democrats and republicans we're gonna we're gonna mess each

01:13:31.880 other up but then when netanyahu comes to town that he gets nine standing ovations and they don't

01:13:36.340 agree on anything else they don't agree on anything else but when he comes to town they all stand up

01:13:40.900 and they clap like seals because in my opinion that's who really runs the u.s at least our foreign

01:13:45.300 policy they take us to war mark another country took us to war marco rubio and i quote israel was

01:13:51.660 going to attack we feared american soldiers would die in the retaliation so we had to join in it was

01:13:56.460 only going to be 24 to 48 hours that that's literally the stated explanation as to why 18

01:14:02.900 american soldiers are dead now over 500 soldiers most of them uh severely injured with traumatic

01:14:07.980 brain injury like ultimately they want to blame us the people that were loyal to the ideology and

01:14:13.260 mission of maga that we voted for in 2024 the campaign ads that are going to be run i want to

01:14:18.380 talk to you about this of the coffins coming home of trump saying i like it when inflation goes up

01:14:23.220 i like it that houses are more expensive i like that uh it's good for the economy essentially

01:14:28.380 everything bad that's happening you put that in a commercial people that don't know anything about

01:14:33.360 politics are going to hear that and it's going to piss them off right yeah i didn't even think

01:14:38.180 about some of those because there's an even more egregious one that's coming and the democrats have

01:14:42.760 been preparing it for a very long time what is it so you have the epstein transparency act that

01:14:47.800 It was signed by Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey.

01:14:50.040 It was bipartisan.

01:14:52.060 And the Democrats voted for it, right?

01:14:55.080 And Trump came out hostile against the Epstein Transparency Act.

01:14:59.800 And his DOJ didn't even actually follow the law as far as releasing everything.

01:15:03.920 I think it could be said, right?

01:15:05.860 And so they very predictably created an issue out of this.

01:15:09.440 They're calling Trump the Epstein class.

01:15:11.240 And he's surrounded by a lot of billionaires.

01:15:12.900 He looks like a plutocrat.

01:15:14.020 He behaves like one with the ballroom and the fixation on these things.

01:15:18.940 The billions as well of grifting.

01:15:21.060 Yeah, and they're raising money, right?

01:15:25.080 And so he's creating his own problem here where I think what we're going to see is that for over a year, they've been preparing real investigations into corruption within the Trump administration.

01:15:36.620 And so they're going to start dropping.

01:15:37.820 I heard September 1st, I think what did Axios run a story or somebody has talked about how

01:15:42.520 Ro Khanna said this stuff is coming out and they've, they're going to go after apparently

01:15:46.880 the foreign business deals with the Trump family.

01:15:50.040 They're going to subpoena the, the corporations involved in some of these.

01:15:53.980 They're going to go after what happened in antitrust.

01:15:56.480 I think they might go after the pardon sales.

01:15:58.360 I don't know.

01:15:59.040 But like when you, when you run an ad and it's like, look at this Epstein class, Trump

01:16:05.620 fought this release and he's surrounded by billionaires and all he cares about is billionaires

01:16:10.840 are not you and they're stealing from you and here's why that's going to be really damaging

01:16:16.060 and they created that like situation themselves and it's like like you literally gave it to the

01:16:23.620 democrats on a silver platter like this isn't they had to leak some call with zelinski and nancy

01:16:29.260 Pelosi had enough votes to put together some like dog and pony show. Like they have a plan and

01:16:36.400 they've learned not to impeach Trump. Trump's out there saying they're going to impeach him. I think

01:16:40.240 that they would be wise not to and literally just decimate his entire administration with these

01:16:45.660 horrible things. And it'll be like, trust us, we're the government and he's an outsider and

01:16:51.820 he stole everything and the billionaires are bad and vote for Democrat socialists. Like it'll be

01:16:55.580 that kind of thing. This is my question. OK, what is the pardon mean? Because he said, oh,

01:17:00.600 the pardon is the most powerful thing that I have. And there's been a lot of implication made in the

01:17:05.300 past about the auto pin going after Biden, going after Fauci, all these reasons. I think that would

01:17:10.680 be low hanging fruit, right? 2014, that pardon starts for Anthony Fauci. Why is he pardoned in

01:17:15.460 2014? Well, that's when the payment started going from EcoHealth Alliance to the Wuhan Institute of

01:17:19.720 virology a la COVID-19. But in my opinion, in my view, he can't ever call those into question

01:17:26.420 because he doesn't want his called into question. What do you think about the potential of that?

01:17:29.720 Well, I would issue a challenge to Trump. And first, let me say Fauci is actually even still

01:17:36.300 more popular than the people that conducted the auto pen thing. If you explain to people the

01:17:40.840 auto pen pardon and then ask if those people should be arrested or not, especially the young

01:17:44.920 people, it's a strong majority. So there's still people who like trust Fauci, believe it or not,

01:17:49.260 like not all of them right but but like this is an easier one right it's like we know this it went

01:17:54.160 through house oversight committee they they gave criminal referrals i think to the doj about the

01:17:59.560 pardon uh pardon the pardon autopend thing and nothing happened well one can only conspiratorially

01:18:06.100 wonder why the the sitting president wouldn't want to undermine his own pardon power right

01:18:10.660 but here's here's a person who hasn't been pardoned uh mayorkas has not been pardoned oh yes

01:18:16.600 go ahead yeah and he objectively managed the the largest violation of u.s national sovereignty

01:18:24.640 in the history of our nation right like that was him why don't we see him in front of like what

01:18:31.360 what are we doing if you if you can't get that guy and like this is on top of like the brennons

01:18:36.340 of the world right it's like you haven't even heard that name mayorkas why is why is that why

01:18:41.180 have we not heard anything about that guy and it's like okay not in the interest of the the people

01:18:47.740 who backed the republican party to actually really get to the bottom of any of these things and i

01:18:53.120 think what we're seeing again is still theater unfortunately to maintain the status quo has

01:18:57.760 trump always been this person no but i think in the last year or two again it's it's like i don't

01:19:04.160 want to blame him too hard like i i'm sure it would have captured everybody but like he's just

01:19:09.280 i think you can see me on yeah my my reality with this i just got to go deep and dark with it because

01:19:14.820 i think that's where the truth is on this i think when he gets shot at in butler pennsylvania i

01:19:18.940 think that was supposed to kill him i think immediately after that he probably got a call

01:19:22.360 and they said listen we can do this again 100 200 500 times you'll never be safe your family

01:19:27.500 will never be safe don't you want to make a lot of money mr trump don't you want to be president

01:19:31.540 yeah don't exactly plot or plomo a la pablo escobar that's a great point to make and i think

01:19:38.140 he took the money and i think it's obviously financially i think he's enriched himself

01:19:41.500 between two to four billion dollars he took the money i think it's obvious with that kind of echo

01:19:45.580 chamber circle that he's rolling with now that he took the money and can you blame him i think you

01:19:50.640 can because if you take that job you're not just doing it to be the boss of america you represent

01:19:55.180 all of us we the people okay we have a representative democracy a constitutional republic

01:20:00.000 and you got to be that man in the arena and that's what he always purported himself to be

01:20:04.040 When you say fight, fight, fight, what that really means is I'm willing to die.

01:20:07.580 If you're truly willing to die, if you're truly willing to put your life out there on the line, then I think you deserve to be the American president.

01:20:14.020 I don't think we've had one of those guys in quite a long time.

01:20:16.540 I think Trump was probably the first guy in quite a long time that was directly threatened.

01:20:20.240 But in the reality, I want to go ahead and throw this tweet up.

01:20:23.000 The praise be to Allah.

01:20:24.720 First Alex, who wrote Man in the Arena, by the way?

01:20:27.180 Teddy Roosevelt.

01:20:28.540 Oh, OK.

01:20:29.380 Yeah.

01:20:30.200 Yeah.

01:20:30.420 Again.

01:20:31.380 Exactly.

01:20:31.960 That's a great point.

01:20:33.340 I want to go ahead and throw this up. The Trump tweet. This is like lame duck stuff, man. This is just sad at this point. When I see this, it doesn't give me like a big oomph like he like it did when he came out against my dad the first time or Tucker the first time. Now everyone sees this and they roll their eyes. I don't know. Try to find the Trump meme where he's where he's crying a little bit and he's got like a long screen of paper. If we can throw that up. This is just something I look at it and I just go, man, your nickname Marjorie Trader Green or Marjorie Taylor Brown, because

01:21:03.340 green turns to brown under stress that's that's not funny in the nursing home i i don't i don't

01:21:09.660 care what you say i'll read a little bit of it tucker carlson just met with lightweight former

01:21:14.120 congress congressman congresswoman uh tom oh okay thomas massey and marjorie taylor green

01:21:19.660 losers all tucker's views and quotations have fallen through the floor that's not true at all

01:21:25.080 tucker's bigger than ever and will only get worse nobody cares about him any longer this is

01:21:29.500 projection confession by projection and that he has become totally irrelevant and happens to be

01:21:34.540 surprisingly a very low iq individual he could barely get out of college let's not even talk

01:21:39.280 about wharton business school and maybe he didn't but only really dumb people can't make it through

01:21:43.240 that wonderful four-year time in life that's just showing his privilege man because i didn't go to

01:21:46.520 college i actually didn't have that opportunity tucker wants to run for political office but he

01:21:50.880 should have been required to take a cognitive test he's got no chance but he could probably

01:21:54.420 take a couple of points away from whatever republican ticket happens to be tucker is a

01:21:58.880 loser and always has been well it was if he was always a loser why was he your friend trump and

01:22:03.220 i i just i want to pause there what do you think about that does that still have any bite anymore

01:22:08.300 to anybody in like the polling world statistically like is this just for the over 50 demographic

01:22:13.160 so if you take any standalone pollster in order to have an apples and apples comparison like a

01:22:21.120 new york times or an emerson and you take trump's current approval rating and compare it to george

01:22:27.140 W. Bush's 2006 approval rating at the same time, what you're going to see is like within a point

01:22:32.340 they're in the same place. And he was a nicer person. You know what I mean? Like I think we

01:22:37.400 could all agree. And maybe that particular war was a little bit more unpopular. So there are

01:22:41.960 some offsets, but we're essentially looking at somebody. I mean, Bush left the final month of

01:22:49.080 his office with like a 32% approval rating or something like really down there. So this could

01:22:54.140 get a lot worse and i think we're seeing things like this that show that it might because again

01:22:58.800 remember 10 years ago it would have been one sentence long it would have been deadly smart

01:23:05.040 it would have been focused on an actual enemy and what we're doing here is basically chopping

01:23:11.260 off our own appendages and so it's like you can argue about whether tucker carlson has more or

01:23:16.880 less viewers than he's ever had but he's still got millions and so you're basically picking an

01:23:22.320 enemy of people who should be the safest part of your coalition right and then look at that and

01:23:28.580 it's like throw it through an ai and ask an ai to pick objective adjectives that describe the tone

01:23:34.360 of that and i think you'll see things like petty and thin-skinned and like divisive and insular

01:23:41.920 like you know what i mean it's just all the things and there's no substance there's no substance he's

01:23:46.360 not able to criticize him on anything because what they're loyal to are his old policies so he can

01:23:51.420 just call you a loser call you a traitor call you low iq call you dumb but it's chopping the nose

01:23:56.880 off despite the face wouldn't you agree even they're loyal to the underlying values of his

01:24:06.160 old policies which means that they're continuing to support what he originally represented right

01:24:12.860 you know what i mean and it's like again are are it's not going to go one way or another you're

01:24:18.440 just you're just splitting the movement here and you're making it more demoralized and there's a

01:24:24.040 case to be made based on the polling that the republicans are going to underperform because

01:24:29.140 most of these polls in the uh the generic ballot that have a democrat lead of on average about

01:24:34.900 seven points it's narrowed a little bit it's back to democrat plus seven uh you know most of those

01:24:40.980 are registered voters they're not really looking at likely voter behavior they're not layering on

01:24:45.060 top of that, the fact that Democrat voters have a 10 point, very enthusiastic lead and

01:24:51.140 that they've been crushing turnout across the board and Democrat primaries and that

01:24:56.560 they Democrats have outperformed the polling in almost every special election that we've

01:25:00.420 had since the 2024 election.

01:25:03.240 And so, again, tough to predict what might happen, but we're going to see a lot of negative

01:25:07.200 stuff come out about Republicans in the Trump administration between now and November.

01:25:10.360 However, I don't think it's fair to say that we're going to see some resurgence of a cohesive feeling of momentum, which is what Trump would need in order to outperform the polling.

01:25:20.940 And so, in my opinion, the case is going to be made that these are like solid pickups of the Democrat House and then probably the Senate.

01:25:27.200 But he never had the Senate anyways.

01:25:28.920 And the House is where all the action is going to be.

01:25:30.880 That's literally what I was going to ask you is your opinion on 2026 and then 2028 moving forward.

01:25:36.200 Where do you see kind of the like widening political field?

01:25:39.480 Is there some sort of bloodbath in the White House?

01:25:41.740 Heard Fuentes talk about this, the idea of people saying, hey, I'm going to go work for

01:25:45.420 Rubio's campaign.

01:25:46.660 Hey, I'm going to go work for Vance's campaign.

01:25:48.600 Hey, I'm just going to get out of here because it's getting too hot.

01:25:51.480 I think it's getting a little hot in that White House.

01:25:53.320 And I think specifically, like I'm a politics and war guy.

01:25:56.400 I cover a lot of geopolitics.

01:25:57.860 This has been a very like domestic policy heavy show for me today, like thinking about

01:26:01.900 the American people, because when I think about the American people, I think about the

01:26:05.820 war because the war is undeniable.

01:26:07.820 They say it's not a war, but it's been going on for 47 years, might need to stay in another 20 years to finish it, but it's already over. So it doesn't even matter. The four latest deaths in the war, Michael, Sarah, Tyler and Angel, they didn't die in Operation Epic Fury. That's what Trump says. He says, hey, you know, it's a military operation, but it's not even a military operation and it's not even a war, but it's also a war.

01:26:29.020 I think you reach a level where the fallout in the midterms is going to be so extreme that that message is going to be seen by people in the administration as undeniable and like they can't be a part of it anymore.

01:26:40.400 I think that's when you're really going to start to see the splintering.

01:26:42.580 What is your opinion on 2026 and 2028 last like five minutes that we got you here?

01:26:47.840 Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you conjecture as well as, again, the polling case.

01:26:51.520 Right. So Democrat plus seven should be adequate for them to take the House.

01:26:55.480 And again, the most of the cases that I could make are that they will overperform the polling.

01:27:00.540 Now, there's a ton of caveats.

01:27:02.140 If you look at like the Cook Political Report, they have 19 toss ups and they're not going to they're not picking a winner right now.

01:27:07.940 Fifteen of those 19 toss ups are Republicans.

01:27:11.000 And most of those, like 13 of them, were only won by a margin of single digits, like under five.

01:27:17.960 And so those could be close.

01:27:19.840 But we've also had redistricting.

01:27:21.720 And so the Republicans won the redistricting fight, might have like a 15-whatever seat advantage there, but the redistricting was all based on a Trump 2024 turnout, and so maybe we aren't going to see that.

01:27:35.400 And then you have the whole financial situation and how good the advertising is going to be, and then you also have the aspect of Democrat ballot harvesting, which I still think is a major issue.

01:27:44.140 So again, it's tough to predict an actual seat pickup, but I think it's fair to say, and the betting markets agree, the Democrats are going to take the House. And again, I don't care that much about the Senate. There's reasons to think that the Democrats are going to flip a whole bunch of things that should be safe Republican seats like Ohio and Iowa, just based on the polling and where things are probably going to go between now and November. And that's basically it, right?

01:28:08.900 So now look at what's happening in the White House.

01:28:11.980 You haven't seen a lot of turnover.

01:28:13.360 You're going to start to see more turnover.

01:28:14.740 That just happens naturally.

01:28:16.440 But these people are going into work every day, and a lot of them are trying to fight

01:28:20.080 for the American people.

01:28:21.060 And they come in, and they see this kind of tweet that Trump wrote at 3 a.m.

01:28:24.480 with Natalie Harp, probably, unsupervised by anybody.

01:28:28.480 And they're like, ugh.

01:28:29.260 You know what I mean?

01:28:29.860 This is now something else that they have to deal with.

01:28:33.320 And my feeling of the White House when I went there is that, yeah, they got their cabinet people, the cabinet's doing the cabinet things, and they're running the government, but that there wasn't necessarily some kind of overarching strategic plan at the White House level.

01:28:47.640 It felt like the White House staff was really just like responding to what Trump did every day.

01:28:52.200 And so I don't see any reason to think that that's not going to change.

01:28:55.580 And potentially, like with him losing political capital and getting more of a lame duck status, you're already starting to see people treat him like lame duck.

01:29:03.820 You know, people distancing themselves, allowed to distance themselves on the campaign trail.

01:29:08.180 That's that's a bad sign.

01:29:09.660 People already trying to redefine the Republican Party into something that was decidedly not what OG MAGA was.

01:29:14.960 if he loses the house and these like there is going to be a palpable feeling of he is over his

01:29:20.900 political hill and so people are going to start looking towards the future and what and what

01:29:26.580 they're going to say is that like i don't think there's going to be this appetite of trump sitting

01:29:30.760 in mar-a-lago and being a maga kingmaker i think people are going to realize that there needs to be

01:29:35.020 more definition behind what the movement stands for and what maga means and or america first or

01:29:40.740 whatever it's going to be, right? He will not coronate the new leader. He will not coronate

01:29:45.080 the new leader. That's a key point to make. Whoever he coronates is going to lose the primary

01:29:48.480 in 2028, in my opinion. Well, that's why I think JD is the best of the people who currently exist

01:29:54.540 only because I know him. I think he's genuine. And I think he really is an economic populist.

01:29:59.500 And he's shown himself to be very capable as a messenger. Like, I think he could do better.

01:30:05.280 The problem is, is he's got the toughest job in America because he can't criticize Trump,

01:30:09.780 But he's also not going to have as many coattails as he would hope.

01:30:13.600 Let's just put it that way.

01:30:14.500 And that he's surrounded by the entire Republican fundraising apparatus that definitely doesn't want somebody who's not Israel first and definitely doesn't want somebody who's anti oligarch.

01:30:24.000 And so the structure is going to try, in my opinion, to resist him like a virus.

01:30:29.240 And I don't know how that pans out.

01:30:31.260 Like he's got to be the world's best political organizer and builder in order to do some kind of structure to make some new kind of fundraising pipeline to take over the RNC.

01:30:41.120 And because he talks about populism and it's like they're going to fight every aspect of that.

01:30:48.480 The young people are revolted when they hear about money, when they hear about ads.

01:30:53.240 It's pissing me off right now because I'm thinking about the way these things are actually won.

01:30:56.960 It's not even on ideological bases.

01:30:58.580 It's about how much money you can raise.

01:31:00.440 And I think that's what made Trump different the first time around. He said, hey, I'm a billionaire. I'm going to lose money so I can be the president. That's why I'm the guy for the job. But he has turned into this Miriam Adelson machine. And as we've seen with James Tallarico here in Texas, Miriam don't care about Democrat Republican. Miriam cares about Miriam and Israel and money. Right. And that's what the donations roll in for. And as a young person, I hear you say those things about J.D. I don't personally endorse J.D. Vance. I'm like a Tucker guy. I'm like a Joe Kent guy. That's where I stand.

01:31:29.620 it's just you're gonna need somebody that was wounded by that sword and i don't think jd vance

01:31:34.420 besides being put in a horrible position by trump having to kind of be the good cop bad cop in the

01:31:38.780 marco rubio dynamic i just i don't think he's got that metaphysical energy that was put on him

01:31:43.680 because i think you do have to be hurt by the administration in order to win i think you're

01:31:47.800 going to see a scenario where it's like 2016 where you got a random guy you know that's almost in the

01:31:52.680 middle of the stage but not totally the middle of the stage and he's going to make either marco

01:31:56.140 Rubio or J.D. Vance look like Jeb Bush? Who could that person be potentially? What's the likelihood

01:32:01.640 of that? Is that a pipe dream? Is it still there's still too many old people, still too much old

01:32:05.940 money, power access? Just in closing, your take on that question. Yeah, I like the majority of

01:32:12.760 the Republican electorate is still your boomer con like it just is. I'm sorry. And they're never

01:32:18.480 going to build that same 77 million vote coalition that they had without like reattracting those

01:32:24.500 people who have all feel like they've been betrayed and there's a very good case to be made

01:32:29.060 whether jd is the best candidate or not that he would be well advised not to run in 2028 just

01:32:34.200 because people are going to be pissed and there's going to be anti-incumbency bias and i think that

01:32:38.800 that is the case and in that kind of environment like also listen i think an outsider could come

01:32:45.120 along and be very successful the problem is third party is very hard because you have republicans

01:32:51.220 everywhere and they control elections they like it's hard you don't have all those volunteers

01:32:55.700 but you can run as an independent or you can run in the primary you could probably do both

01:33:01.300 in the primary you could be a forcing function and maybe do very well and siphon off a lot of

01:33:05.800 votes maybe even win the primary uh as an outsider uh it would have to be a very charismatic person

01:33:11.880 who is a very big national populist who i mean does it right this time right uh or that person

01:33:18.400 can run as an independent spoiler and earn five to eight points and make sure that the Republicans

01:33:22.860 have a generational schlacking that takes them out, you know, like down a way down in the stack

01:33:28.620 ranking gives an opportunity. This is the Nick Fuentes plan, right? Destroy the Republican party

01:33:33.100 so it can be rebuilt in a new image. And that's possible. Like that's something that a Joe Kent,

01:33:39.360 Tucker Carlson ticket could do. What would be hilarious is if you even saw something like

01:33:43.780 maybe roqana and massey run together as a democrat and you saw like kent and tulsi run together as a

01:33:49.940 republican ticket or something like that or both as independents just to see who siphons off more

01:33:54.280 votes on both sides like let's have a free-for-all like why not right and we just totally confuse

01:33:59.220 confuse americans but i think there's an opportunity if we can get past these establishment

01:34:04.000 division tactics for some kind of not single issue but for a laser focused coalition again

01:34:12.020 on national populism but the system is going to fight that so hard all the billionaires all the

01:34:18.540 foreign country and and it would be very very very fragile and people are scared of that sword man

01:34:24.020 they're scared of that power because even though it's good even though that american populism that

01:34:27.920 is the lady of the lake giving us excalibur even though that is the reality people see that and

01:34:32.400 they see trump wielding it against them and they're terrified of it now and i think this is

01:34:36.060 what i see a lot when i talk to young people that might be more independent or left-leaning when i

01:34:40.320 talk about being a nationalist when i talk about being america first they go oh what about trump

01:34:44.380 he said the exact same things and look at what's happened to the country i think that's the real

01:34:48.880 danger and that's why from an ideological basis i had to start broadcasting again man is because

01:34:53.780 somebody's got to say this stuff you know but go ahead these are why the values and morals are very

01:34:58.200 important and it's because like for instance on deportations okay you know maybe guilty is charged

01:35:06.000 maybe you as well but i was happy at the cathartic pump reels we were getting about ice back in

01:35:11.740 january and february of 2025 right but it's like if we're really moral christians right if we are

01:35:19.160 constitutionalist conservatives uh you know we do think america is fair we do respect people's

01:35:26.600 natural rights and so we shouldn't be tear gassing people in the face and and busting down doors and

01:35:32.540 using shot gloves and it's like the the ability for us to wage economic warfare against iran and

01:35:39.780 not economic warfare against illegal aliens to get them out for instance it's like that would

01:35:44.460 be probably the most humane way to do it and most effective way and i've said it was i've said it

01:35:49.760 over and over and over again can't work here can't get a car can't bank just go home and it's

01:35:55.660 non-violent that's what fishback proposed and that policy would be a lot more effective at actually

01:36:00.440 getting the tens of millions people out of here that came here just in the past five years okay

01:36:04.180 i don't care people say established roots blah blah blah 20 million people came here under biden

01:36:09.300 all of them have to leave all of them have to leave but what you do by using ice which was

01:36:14.020 founded right after the patriot act and i think people a lot of people don't know that when you

01:36:17.640 use ice as this cudgel and you do these things and ultimately when american citizens for whatever

01:36:21.600 reason die in the street when you go to that independent voter or that more left-leaning

01:36:25.420 voter maybe an obama person that transferred over to trump in 2016 maybe somebody it wasn't

01:36:29.840 didn't have a political ideology but just like the policies of making america first again they say

01:36:34.080 hell no i don't support that and sadly they're going to be a lot more likely in my view and

01:36:39.120 opinion to support radical socialist globalist policy and that is the disease in my opinion

01:36:44.940 yeah i mean it's the the pendulum is going to swing back and we have a democrat rising tide

01:36:53.620 of democrat socialists who again all of their voters aren't socialists but a lot of them are

01:36:59.320 on SSRIs a lot of them are meant

01:37:01.280 like you know inflamed

01:37:03.220 like there is a chunk of that in the

01:37:05.120 Democrat party and but the problem

01:37:07.320 is is it's like they're probably going to

01:37:09.260 get in power and be statist and

01:37:11.080 extreme and do all these division tactics

01:37:13.200 and then the Republicans are

01:37:15.280 not going to like learn from their experience

01:37:17.380 and they're going to regress and do the same

01:37:19.160 thing because they want to go back to this right

01:37:21.300 left division kabuki stuff

01:37:22.700 and again I'm very

01:37:25.180 confident that the youth are

01:37:27.240 most likely than anybody to

01:37:29.240 see through this and hopefully like again you would have to bury hatchets like we used to have

01:37:34.400 political compromise in this country and now of course the political compromise is just who gets

01:37:39.280 to spend on their special pork stuff right right but it's like okay we want to deport everybody

01:37:44.160 because it's a rule of law thing and it's not fair and it will help americans economically if we do

01:37:49.580 that and then they say well we don't want like real citizens who are hispanic to worry about

01:37:57.480 having to show their papers at walmart you know what i mean it's like if we had that open dialogue

01:38:02.400 then we could say well the best way to do this is to tax remittances or something right and so

01:38:07.900 that's what a coalition might look like and that's what compromise might look like but to do that you

01:38:14.180 have to understand that there are aspects of the way that trump ran this presidency that played

01:38:18.660 into all of the things that gave the bolsheviks ammunition to weaponize against the right not

01:38:23.640 least of which is january 6th you know they do think that maga is violent extremists and so

01:38:30.420 like that okay back to tucker we're americans we share things there's a shared cultural vision

01:38:37.540 we want this experiment to work we need to be able to see through these division tactics and

01:38:42.800 understand who the real enemy to the extent there is one exists and what it is is an entrenched

01:38:48.400 uniparty oligarch kleptocracy of globo homo you know like that's what's absolutely no it's the

01:38:55.360 globo homo agenda it's everyone else first except for americans and i say this all the time i care

01:39:00.540 about foundational white americans foundational black americans foundational hispanic americans

01:39:04.920 if you have parents grandparents great-grandparents that are here and fought for that american project

01:39:09.000 i think it's incredibly disgusting to tell someone hey your grandfather died in vietnam well we're

01:39:14.960 going to have you know 50 million illegal and legal immigrants come in your country and that's

01:39:18.700 fine they're just as american as you and i don't care what your background is that should piss you

01:39:23.100 off and i think it does piss you off and i think there is that consciousness there but the guilting

01:39:27.720 has begun the guilting on this is what america is this is globalism this is israel first this is

01:39:32.680 the trump policy this is what maga actually meant it was never maga it was always mega why won't you

01:39:37.800 try socialism why won't you give it a chance you don't care about people look at all the videos

01:39:42.140 of people being hurt look at all the videos people going bankrupt this is what trump represents and

01:39:46.340 it's like no or this is what america first represents and it's like no that's what trump

01:39:50.700 decided to pervert his platform into becoming i think these are all very powerful points we do

01:39:55.060 have my dad coming up downstairs in studio is stewart rhodes at 2 p.m mark i really i'm a huge

01:40:00.180 fan i really appreciate you it's been an incredible honor having you on the show where do people find

01:40:05.120 you i gotta have you on again on my personal please i really appreciate it thanks again this

01:40:10.080 was great i'll come on anytime love what you guys are doing sorry that you're uh victims of the

01:40:14.920 trump administration but i think it's we're coming out of the the tunnel you know there's a light

01:40:19.300 right um i agree so i used to be work at rasmussen reports i found in my own company the honest poll

01:40:25.240 less than two months ago we're doing our first national tracking poll now follow me on twitter

01:40:29.760 at honest pollster but if people want to hear my story i just put a video out a day and a half ago

01:40:34.480 on youtube i'm rebuilding my youtube channel it's at honest poll please go if you want to hear it's

01:40:39.900 a 20-minute video about exactly what happened and what the honest poll stands for, which is

01:40:44.900 independent representation of the American electorate and not dark money NGOs, not political

01:40:49.960 action committees, not lobbyists, not corporations. It's the American people. And there are not a lot

01:40:55.240 of people like me out there doing this. There are going to be a lot more though. American liberty

01:40:59.580 is rising. Patriotism is rising. I think that's the silver lining on this cloud that's over us

01:41:04.500 right now is it's always darkest before the dawn. And I do truly believe this. And now we know,

01:41:09.340 at least now we know what the problem is like you say transnational capital is what i call it a lot

01:41:14.180 of the time the oligarchy kleptocracy this is what we face this is what we war against and if

01:41:18.840 we don't have an actual populist american first america first mission then ultimately we're kind

01:41:23.620 of doomed to fail we got to have people like you man thank you for coming on the show great to be

01:41:27.740 here thanks again thank you so much mark mitchell you got to follow him at honest pollster guys check

01:41:32.920 out the youtube channel as well this is super important we got men in the arena right now

01:41:37.380 fighting for our values, which are everyone's values in America. America first, what MAGA used

01:41:42.260 to mean to you and me. And this is just the reality of what we're dealing with. That guy was a soldier.

01:41:48.140 That guy was finding the truth, presenting it to Trump, giving him the information that he needed

01:41:52.860 to get back on track. And like he said, it's water off a duck's back. That's what all this

01:41:58.000 stuff is turned into. He doesn't listen to us anymore. He doesn't care about us anymore. He

01:42:03.220 doesn't even think about us anymore. It's about the money. It's about the power interest. It's

01:42:07.060 not about we the people and whoever has that we the people message whoever was wounded by that

01:42:11.900 same energy in a righteous way not in a or in an incorrect way not a righteous way that's going to

01:42:17.480 be the people that rise to the top i think it's going to be people like tucker like mtg like a

01:42:22.360 thomas massey like a joe kent i i really think that is the core group of people that we have

01:42:27.020 right now standing against this and you see at immense personal risk and personal loss all these

01:42:33.020 people have tried their best to stay true to the values of what they campaigned for in 2016 and

01:42:38.120 2024 and beyond and it's not us that changed we aren't the ones that changed we're all still

01:42:43.920 saying the same things about what we wanted the policies that we wanted and when people say oh

01:42:48.160 you criticize the president you want islamic foot washing stations you criticize the president

01:42:52.480 you're uh pro uh i don't know like elective trans baby surgery or something crazy like that

01:42:57.540 that's not the issue okay that's not the problem that's like a pimple when the person has stage

01:43:02.900 for terminal cancer. And that's what the country has right now. And it's summed up in one word,

01:43:07.760 mega make Israel great again, because if another country can take us to war, if another country

01:43:13.100 can dominate our foreign policy, then we don't really have a chance. And it's not even the people

01:43:18.020 over in Israel necessarily. Of course, they're serving their own interests. They want power for

01:43:22.120 themselves. They're willing to slit the throat of our empire. It's our own people that support these

01:43:26.340 policies. It's our own people that deny them. It's our own people that still think we live in 1975

01:43:31.640 or 1990. We don't. We live in the year 2026. And look at this. Democrats are gearing up for a wave

01:43:37.480 of investigations into Trump and his allies. He put himself in this position. He'll probably

01:43:42.680 definitely have to pardon himself. And that's why you're not going to see the arrest of Mayorkas.

01:43:46.860 That's why you're not going to see the arrest of Fauci. That's why we're never going to get the

01:43:50.240 things we voted for is because he's in the club now. He's in the club now like 50 cent. But I want

01:43:55.860 to go ahead and roll a piece of my old reporting here on Infowars, formerly Infowars. Now Alex

01:44:01.280 Jones network of me when I'm like 14, 15 years old doing this stuff. I want you guys to see this.

01:44:06.220 And then we got Stuart Rhodes, Alex Jones coming up in studio downstairs. In some cases, people are

01:44:12.340 even fitting blades into them so they can use it as a hacksaw for more damage. You don't have to

01:44:16.620 sell me. I'm 100 percent for gun control. What would you say? What do we need now? What kind

01:44:23.420 of legislation? I mean, we need to ban these types of automatic and, you know, the military

01:44:30.240 style weapons i'm so sorry about that uh the fully semi-automatic weapons yeah um i mean

01:44:36.480 there's no reason that a citizen needs something like that absolutely you know did you know that

01:44:40.400 that screws off and becomes an even more deadly uzi-like weapon i mean yeah um

01:44:48.080 i mean it's already deadly enough i think already the thing is is is any american can

01:44:54.720 go and purchase one of those using their civil liberties and that's absolutely horrible thank

01:44:58.800 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your opinion.

01:45:01.920 Yeah, I'm just working out.

01:45:03.640 Thank you so much.

01:45:05.040 A great example of how the average liberal SJW is so stupid and uneducated on the matters of gun control

01:45:12.820 that they'll just believe anything you feed them.

01:45:16.380 I mean, the things that I'm making up could not be more fake.

01:45:20.340 A bullet button? A hacksaw bump stock? Come on, people.

01:45:26.800 Anyone with like half a brain cell should be able to recognize this stuff.

01:45:30.200 A lot of people know about the bump stocks.

01:45:31.540 You're well educated.

01:45:32.220 You know about them.

01:45:32.840 But not a lot of people know about the screw-off nozzle that the newer AR-15s are capable of.

01:45:38.160 See, in specialized forms like this one, you're able to actually screw off the top of this one,

01:45:43.140 and it turns into an even more highly lethal, Uzi-like weapon.

01:45:46.080 What are your thoughts on that, sir?

01:45:47.880 I'm not entirely, you know, I don't know anything about that too much, so I don't really know.

01:45:53.260 But, I mean, the idea of it sounds a lot more dangerous.

01:45:58.620 It's newer technology.

01:45:59.740 The NRA and actually a couple of senators are working on getting this technology since the United States.

01:46:05.780 Highly dangerous.

01:46:06.660 You see the screw-off nozzle there.

01:46:08.380 And I think it's just absolutely wonderful that a citizen like you is open to common-sense gun reform.

01:46:13.600 Thank you, sir.

01:46:14.240 No problem. Thank you.

01:46:15.560 Please. It would only take a moment of your time.

01:46:18.920 We'd really appreciate it.

01:46:19.860 Here, would you step back here, please?

01:46:22.360 Thank you, sir.

01:46:23.040 What are your thoughts on common sense gun reform and control?

01:46:25.280 I support common sense gun control reform.

01:46:27.780 Thank you.

01:46:28.260 It's common sense.

01:46:29.740 People don't need weapons of war.

01:46:31.820 I agree.

01:46:32.560 I was just in the LBJ presidential library, and they had guns just like this.

01:46:38.360 And they said weapons of war in the glass.

01:46:39.860 And I was thinking to myself, but you can buy these at Sports Authority.

01:46:42.780 That is a great observation.

01:46:45.260 Are you aware of the bullet button that allows people to rapidly change fire and modes?

01:46:49.680 And are you aware the bump stock turns any weapon into a fully automatic weapon ready to kill hundreds of people?

01:46:56.480 I am, and I don't understand why that's legal.

01:46:58.560 Thanks. I mean, what candidates are you supporting that support things like this?

01:47:03.720 Well, it seems like a standard platform on the Democratic Party side.

01:47:07.380 Man, that's what I like. I feel as if the Republican ideals of the Second Amendment are really outdated now that we have weapons like this.

01:47:15.420 It was meant for muskets in reality.

01:47:17.180 I know.

01:47:17.920 When you look at the history, it was meant for weapons that could fire one shot a minute.

01:47:22.840 Only the government should have weapons like this.

01:47:24.480 Don't you agree?

01:47:25.320 I agree.

01:47:26.060 Absolutely.

01:47:27.120 Thanks.

01:47:27.580 And just in closing, I know we've taken up so much of your time.

01:47:30.080 I appreciate it.

01:47:30.820 You are a thinker and an intellectual.

01:47:32.300 I really appreciate you commenting on this.

01:47:33.960 What is your opinion on the 1,000-yard site that is totally legal and people can snipe whoever they want?

01:47:40.560 Well, I think it's necessary for hunting.

01:47:42.780 Oh, yeah, for hunting.

01:47:43.940 But we have, like, metal and wood.

01:47:45.600 It's a good rule of thumb.

01:47:46.340 you have rifles that are meant for hunting. This is meant to kill people.

01:47:50.220 Yeah, why it's legal to attach to a weapon that should be banned, I don't understand.

01:47:53.580 The .223, it's a heavy round. It's meant to take out armor-piercing plates. It's what the military

01:47:59.380 uses. It's just a slightly less powerful version of the M16, which the military uses. So you agree

01:48:06.080 with me. Weapons like this should be banned, right? I do agree. I don't think weapons of war

01:48:10.600 should be able to be bought by uh by anyone who's over 18 or 21. anything anyone who has a weapon

01:48:16.680 which is capable to add blades on telescopic sight sniping people having weapons like this which

01:48:23.800 have a unscrewable nozzle where you can pull it out and it functions just identically to an uzi

01:48:28.120 that's that's incredibly illegal but it's legal thanks to our nra and the second amendment that

01:48:32.600 that should be abolished in my opinion yeah i think so i think uh the right to protect yourself

01:48:37.080 uh you don't need a weapon like this to protect yourself at a home and you don't need a weapon

01:48:40.280 like this to be a good hunter oh just get a pair get a can of pepper spray i mean come on you don't

01:48:45.480 need ak-17s and ar-15s and 12s you don't need weapons like that do you no i don't i don't think

01:48:53.100 so ar's you know 17 there's a real hunger for people in the center that want to find valid

01:48:58.560 true information and you have that legitimacy of trump from back in the day you have that sword

01:49:02.800 that energy so many people pledge themselves to that banner be like hey man we're looking for

01:49:07.600 the truth whatever that means and i think people like tim pool represent that because they don't

01:49:11.580 actually look for the truth they look for a narrative to parrot right they don't actually

01:49:15.180 have any real positions it's the amorphous blob technique i'm rubber you're glue what bounces off

01:49:20.820 me sticks to you they can do anything and everything they can meet with netanyahu in secret

01:49:24.260 and then say hey it's public because i tell you but i won't tell you what i talked about netanyahu

01:49:27.820 met with journalists in dc to lobby for the iran war and he's one of the people there and tim pool

01:49:33.540 is not allowed to discuss what they talked about at the meeting and tim pool will say i told you

01:49:37.900 what happened on the record that's because jewish insider jewish newspapers like jewish insider and

01:49:42.820 harrett's published stories on it right so he had to come out oh the day later told everyone yeah

01:49:47.080 they wrote about it they wrote about it so you had to come out publicly and then he wants to play

01:49:52.180 onk and play this game as to where i don't know what i did to you alex i didn't know i just

01:49:56.980 in politics there are no friends only conveniences all of this stuff that he did he's doing that

01:50:03.400 stuff because he can't stand on business stand on principle he supported the war by supporting

01:50:07.760 netanyahu i'm sorry hitler is dead and he lost to the united states of america netanyahu is alive

01:50:14.020 and he's conquered our country i view him as worse than hitler all right in the modern relevance term

01:50:19.180 okay because he took us to war he killed american soldiers repeatedly over decades and decades and

01:50:23.900 decades billions of our dollars spent on killing little kids yeah right yeah and somebody like

01:50:28.320 tim pool is too afraid to lose his career and lose his access and lose his job lose the normies

01:50:33.380 that might be offended by that because they don't understand what trump has done with that sword he

01:50:36.640 was given they're just so loyal to that sword somebody like tim pool's afraid to lose that

01:50:40.760 bread that he knows is butter so that that's what it comes down to and when he comes out and says

01:50:45.340 alex you've lost all your viewership that wasn't him just doing an isolation my dad was getting

01:50:50.160 attacked in every comment section over this that day when the x glitch was happening yeah right

01:50:54.220 people like the quarter pounder people like jeremy hamplant people like the qp these people

01:50:58.960 are bottom feeders they're muckrakers they are the lowest gusano scum of the media and they

01:51:05.040 attack my father who created the entire space for them are you kidding me are you kidding me and

01:51:10.580 tim pool is higher than that because he created his own network and i have a lot of respect for

01:51:13.600 that just like someone like p pbd even if i don't like him personally right but tim pool should know

01:51:18.900 that he hasn't taken a real position and he should know alex has taken some very real positions at

01:51:24.260 immense personal risk and personal harm to himself it ain't good to come out against the president

01:51:29.020 have the president tweet about you and call you low iq and say that you're fried that's not that

01:51:33.660 that's what it means to be in the storm that's what it means to be a real fighter someone like

01:51:38.000 tim pool ain't ever going to get called out by the president because he's a good boy yeah yeah

01:51:42.520 yeah clip it up i can call a mean promo man go follow this dude if you ain't already yeah he's

01:51:49.020 It's getting better and better.

01:51:54.020 When the hydrogen bombs are detonating

01:51:56.080 and you're sitting in your house or office

01:51:57.880 and all of a sudden the windows are all blow out

01:51:59.600 and then 10 seconds later,

01:52:01.600 you see a flash of red coming at you.

01:52:03.660 That's the firewall.

01:52:05.280 And just remember, oh, Alex Jones was right.

01:52:07.660 And that's if you're, you know, on the edge of the blast.

01:52:09.720 You won't feel anything if you're actually in the epicenter of it.

01:52:12.500 And of course, maybe you're out in the middle of Montana or Wyoming.

01:52:14.600 Well, you'll get the nuclear winter and the fallout

01:52:16.580 and then a few weeks after the nuclear war,

01:52:18.580 here comes the warlords coming to loot your house and rape your wife and kids and people

01:52:24.880 got their teeth falling out from radiation poisoning and all these crazy guys stumble

01:52:29.740 out of their vehicles and it'll be doctors and medics and engineers and they'll all been gone

01:52:35.220 totally crazy they have a bunch of 140 iq psychos that are literally going across the land like

01:52:41.900 army ants devouring everything in their way and all the low iq people will just be dead in a ditch

01:52:47.100 and then the near of civilization goes bye-bye

01:52:50.240 and all of a sudden there's all these monsters,

01:52:52.600 all these 140, 150, 160 IQ monsters.

01:52:57.080 The guy that used to manage the golf course,

01:52:59.240 your surgeon, your neighbor who's the army vet.

01:53:03.420 And now all of a sudden,

01:53:04.940 they're hauling you up by a chain

01:53:06.520 to butcher your ass and eat you.

01:53:08.380 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

01:53:10.380 And if I wanted to get outside the blast zone,

01:53:12.200 I could go get ready and I could be the leader.

01:53:13.820 I could be a new warlord.

01:53:15.020 I can organize the engineers and scientists and warriors and have a battle plan that we were going to take the resources we needed, get to a redoubt, fortify it with weapons, because there's going to be other warlords coming soon to contend with as we rebuild civilization.

01:53:29.920 It's not that I want to be a warlord, but that's what we're going back to.

01:53:33.140 Are you ready to be a warlord?

01:53:35.380 Are you ready for me to be humongous?

01:53:38.180 Just give us the guts.

01:53:39.560 We spare your lives.

01:53:41.440 I know how much pain you feel.

01:53:42.960 But wait.

01:53:44.020 now is not the time you'll be given your vengeance

01:53:47.060 reality starts here alexjoneslive.com share the link spread the word

01:53:59.200 they wanted to download my brain but i downloaded theirs

01:54:05.500 it reversed all their demonic globalist plan team humanity

01:54:14.020 We are now zoning in on the forbidden planet.

01:54:39.500 Hidden within its glowing atmosphere lies the secret potion of methylene blue.

01:54:45.000 The ancients whispered of it.

01:54:46.920 The governments deny it.

01:54:48.660 But we have come for it.

01:55:04.340 True.

01:55:05.500 I need you down here with a tanker.

01:55:07.460 We are going to fill it with all this glorious

01:55:10.020 Methyl and blue

01:55:11.000 Boss

01:55:14.240 We forgot the hoses

01:55:15.620 Are you kidding me

01:55:19.780 We came all this way

01:55:21.960 And you forgot

01:55:22.660 Hoses

01:55:23.980 I am definitely mad at the crew

01:55:27.580 Oh my god

01:55:33.860 The crew forgot the hoses

01:55:35.460 They flew across the entire galaxy

01:55:37.340 and forgot the hoses but hey don't panic folks there's still plenty of methylene blue waiting

01:55:42.960 for you at the alexjonesstore.com tune in next week for more adventures with alex and the crew

01:55:48.140 search your feelings within alex i am your father no no this can't be true

01:56:00.220 You're an evil goblin of the dark side.

01:56:03.400 Yes, I am.

01:56:06.520 And so are you, my son.

01:56:09.660 The goblin blood runs strong in our family.

01:56:15.520 No, no, no.

01:56:18.080 This can't be true.

01:56:19.860 This must be a bad dream.

01:56:22.460 Alex, wake up. We're on the air.

01:56:25.080 I just had a horrible dream where Darth Vader told me I was his son.

01:56:29.680 Ha ha, what?

01:56:31.700 Yeah!

01:56:32.340 Ha ha ha ha ha!

01:56:55.960 Dust.

01:56:59.680 通してみんな普通にしていられるんだ

01:57:03.180 知らないのか

01:57:04.920 奴らは食べてたんだ

01:57:09.280 子供

01:57:10.740 食べてたんだ子供を食べてたんだよ

01:57:14.680 政治エレートが未成年を組む人身売買組織を運営していたというこれは嘘です

01:57:20.500 ではこの陰謀論はどこから始まったのでしょうか

01:57:24.320 but

01:57:39.360 I don't know

01:57:40.680 me

01:57:45.260 And then, tell me, I don't have a desire to kill.

01:58:15.260 crackpot our unification of thought is more powerful a weapon than any fleet or army on earth

01:58:26.380 we have created for the first time in all history a garden of pure ideology

01:58:34.780 war is peace

01:58:36.140 on may 1st 2026 alex jones will launch his new network and you will see that the answer to 1984

01:58:47.020 is still and will always be 1776 i started having seizures like a few years ago and everybody in my

01:58:56.580 family knows i'm a neuroscientist what did you do to fix it methylene blue i'd take it okay yeah

01:59:02.180 Mel Gibson was on here talking about it.

01:59:03.940 This stuff works, man.

01:59:05.400 I take it every day as well.

01:59:06.900 Yeah, RFK Jr. told me about it.

01:59:08.740 Yeah, man, it's fantastic.

01:59:09.940 What is Bobby Kennedy Jr. dropping into that glass of water?

01:59:13.600 Plenty of folks are wondering what was in that little bottle he uncorked during a flight.

01:59:18.180 Methylene blue.

01:59:19.240 Show her Kennedy taking it.

01:59:20.480 Kennedy literally gobbles it.

01:59:22.140 He must be doing something right.

01:59:24.040 That ripped bod is 73 years old.

01:59:26.780 You shouldn't have to tell a doctor about methylene blue.

01:59:29.000 I think everybody should know about it.

01:59:30.680 It's changed my life.

01:59:32.020 It kind of gives you like a boost of energy.

01:59:33.780 It's not like an energy drink where you get the jitters or like you're just ready for the day and you're never going to sleep.

01:59:39.060 It's more so like it clears the brain fog where you're actually, you know, able to focus more clearly.

01:59:45.660 You feel instant energy, but without the jitteriness of caffeine and focus.

01:59:49.780 What I feel, what I felt was focus, mental focus.

01:59:52.540 For me, it's like a fog lifted, but it was like a veil lifted off, you know?

01:59:56.800 Incredible.

01:59:57.580 It's really interesting.

01:59:58.620 I almost like feel smarter.

02:00:00.180 with methylene blue i do notice that it does seem to give me more mental energy i knew what that did

02:00:05.740 for me i knew that it got me up and walking again and i was having seizures without it let me tell

02:00:11.860 you something what a blessing it is a miracle and it's been proven for a hundred years that's

02:00:17.180 one of the most well-proven drugs out there my kids take it my wife takes it everybody takes it

02:00:22.700 what a blessing i don't care what anybody says i know what it's like with it and i know what

02:00:30.600 it's like without it unlimited power i'm not gonna be like that well i might go normally

02:00:38.040 yeah you are like that normally

02:00:40.660 unlimited populist

02:00:43.300 Volunteer power!

02:00:45.300 Volunteer power!

02:00:47.300 Ha ha ha!

The Alex Jones Show Live - August 22, 2026

THE ALEX JONES SHOW 8⧸22⧸2026

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