00:00:00.000I mean, no one wants to get Ebola. It's a horrible virus. But it is, you know, my gut is that this is all hyperbole.
00:00:08.840You know, the area of the world where this is occurring is third world to the infinite degree.
00:00:17.160I mean, there's civil war going on. It's in a rural area. They have very poor health infrastructure to begin with.
00:00:25.680And, you know, the numbers are not that high. Now, I guess, yes, they could climb. But the last real big pandemic like the or not pandemic outbreak, it was, you know, much, much worse.
00:00:41.620So it was 28,000 people became infected. So we're nowhere near that. And yeah, it may become a problem in that area of the world, but I'm not worried at all that it's going to come to the United States and create a big outbreak in the United States.
00:01:01.480Ebola is so lethal that it is it is hard to spread in normal, you know, first world countries.
00:01:09.020The people in Africa, they there's death rituals where they touch their deceased and they have this poor sanitation situation.
00:01:20.580So people need to keep in mind that it's very unlikely that it could spread far and wide in the United States.
00:01:28.640And I'm just not worried. But I think the biggest risk is that they spread the fear and they use that fear to control us.
00:01:43.920Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, this is The Alex Jones Show.
00:01:46.960I'm your host, Harrison Smith, sitting in for Alex on this Friday broadcast.
00:01:50.680And I'm very, very excited to welcome my guest, Mary Talley Bowden.
00:01:55.780She's a board certified. She's certified in something I can't even pronounce.
00:02:00.620That shows you how how advanced she is.
00:02:03.940After completing her residency at Samford University, she practiced at Memorial Northwest before founding direct care clinic Breathe MD in 2019, which operates as a cash pay model to avoid insurance constraints.
00:02:15.220And I'm happy to say, Dr. Bowden, that first I heard of you is when my parents were patients of yours there in in Houston.
00:02:22.020So they were very satisfied customers and told me about you, and I've watched very happily as your star is risen, and you've become this fixture in the alternative medicine world that really brings along a lot of expertise and success along with you.
00:02:39.260You can follow Dr. Bowden at Mary Bowden, MD, and she's recently come out with a book called Dangerous Misinformation, the Virus, the Treatments, and the Lies, and she's having some trouble getting it on bookshelves.
00:02:51.420We'll tell you all about it, not because it's not a great book, but because it's too good.
00:02:55.340It says things that certain people don't want out there.
00:03:34.880You know, this is cancel culture still.
00:03:38.260What JP was talking about just hit home so hard is that you just, you know, I got canceled for speaking the truth, right?
00:03:47.260And this is the book details my saga during the pandemic.
00:03:52.800But there's, you know, the truth is I'm just trying to push it out.
00:03:57.900And I know the pandemic is long gone, but they're still using the same tactics and very similar to what we're seeing with with Israel.
00:04:06.960You can't you can't say anything that's considered anti-Israel.
00:04:10.880And these are people it's even harder now because it's people that are on our team.
00:04:15.640It's a lot easier when the Democrats are in control. But now it's you have to be loyal to Trump or else. And I'm very frustrated because these COVID shots are still being given. And seven million children have gotten these shots since Trump took office. But, you know, Team Trump will not allow you to to call that out. And when you call that out, you get, you know, shut down very quickly, at least on Twitter or on X.
00:04:44.380Well, and sort of the failure so far of the Maha agenda has been one of the most glaring failures of Trump's second administration.
00:04:53.320Obviously, the Epstein files, the Iran war.
00:04:55.860I mean, I think these would be the top of most people's lists.
00:04:58.140But Maha was a major reason why a lot of especially people that wouldn't have voted for Trump otherwise.
00:05:05.260They are on board with the alternative medicine stuff, although I don't even like calling it alternative because there's just that that bad connotation with that.
00:05:13.320This is non-pharmaceutical medicine. Maybe it would be a better way of putting it, even though there are some pharmaceuticals in there.
00:05:18.900It's not about maximizing their profits. It's about maximizing the health of the human being.
00:05:23.120That was the promise that, at least in part, helped usher Trump into the White House.
00:05:27.660And yet, where is it now? It doesn't seem to exist.
00:05:32.080Right. I mean, Kennedy rose to power on the backs on the heels of the pandemic.
00:05:37.180Right. That that's what garnered so much support behind him.
00:05:41.580And then he got in office. He he he dropped out at the behest of Cali Means, who has become the leader of Maha, dropped out of the race, joined Trump.
00:05:54.260And since he took office, so he will he will not say anything about the covid shots.
00:06:00.140In fact, the FDA, they just approved the next version of a covid shot for the upcoming covid season.
00:06:07.400And honestly, I can't even remember the last time I treated a covid patient.
00:06:11.580But they're still giving these to Americans or putting Americans in harm's way.
00:06:18.740Twenty nine states recommend that all babies get three COVID shots by the time they're nine months old.
00:06:25.380So and 20 percent of health care providers are pushing the shots on their patients.
00:06:30.440And so if people keep arguing, oh, well, just give people a choice.
00:06:35.060You know, we need to give them the freedom to choose. But they're not getting informed consent.
00:06:39.440they're not being told that the risks of these shots far outweigh any benefit.
00:06:47.240So this is a product that should have been pulled off the market a very long time ago.
00:06:52.740Any other product would have based on what we saw.
00:06:55.440They had over 700 people die within the first month of rollout.
00:07:00.840And now we're seeing this explosion in cancer cases.
00:07:04.520They've been sitting on cancer data since 2022.
00:07:07.500They recently came out with 2023 data, which is a huge increase in cancer in people under 50.
00:07:15.220And that, I suspect, or I'm pretty certain based on what doctors on the ground are seeing, that the 2024, 2025 data is going to be shocking.
00:07:26.360Yeah, and you'll see stories, you know, in mainstream press going, what explains turbo cancer?
00:07:31.540I mean, they'll acknowledge the turbo cancer.
00:07:34.940And I saw an article the other day that was trying to blame, you know, miscarriages and negative outcomes to pregnancy on like abortion law changes.
00:07:44.620And then you go in and do the numbers and you go, well, wait, they're counting deaths that happened in like 2022, a year before the abortion restrictions were in place.
00:07:52.640So there's only one cause that this could be and it would have to be the covid vaccine.
00:07:56.140So in a weird way, they're reporting on the consequences of the vaccine.
00:07:59.760I believe what we're seeing is the consequence of the vaccine. But they're like scratching their
00:08:04.660head and they won't acknowledge the obvious, you know, suspect in the room, which would be the
00:08:08.740vaccine. They're trying to come up with all these other reasons that turbo cancer is exploding and
00:08:13.000miscarriages exploded, you know, following the rollout of the vaccine. They'll admit on the
00:08:17.960consequences, but they want to cover up and act stupid like they're acting dumb, like they don't
00:08:22.940understand that it was the vaccine. But they can only hold this on for so long. I mean, when are
00:08:28.120we going to get the full acknowledgement, do you think, of the true damage that the vaccines have
00:08:33.180done to us and are continuing to do to us? I don't know. Yeah, a lot of this has to happen
00:08:38.860to people firsthand. So we are seeing people in Trump's administration getting cancer, right?
00:08:45.240Pam Bondi. We see Tulsi Gabbard's husband. We saw Susie Wiles' cancer. So, you know,
00:08:52.900it just keeps coming out. And oftentimes people who are very headstrong, the only way they're
00:09:00.420going to learn the lesson is it happens to themselves. So maybe that's what it's going
00:09:06.160to take. But I'm fairly certain that Trump is keeping Kennedy from taking action on this.
00:09:13.700I mean, I don't have any inside information, but we know that Kennedy was on our side prior to
00:09:18.740gaining power. Frustrating to me, I think, you know, if it were me in Kennedy's shoes, I would
00:09:24.940have recruited all my faithful lieutenants and put them in office. And then, you know, I would
00:09:31.620have gone scorched earth and did what needed to be done, knowing I would lose the power. But when
00:09:37.540you have your lieutenants in place, then they can accomplish all the other things that need to be
00:09:41.420done. But he's taken the opposite approach. He's slow rolling. He's, you know, taking the low
00:09:47.100hanging fruit, changing the food pyramid and addressing, you know, food in the hospitals
00:09:54.120and things like that, and taking Diet Coke away from SNAP recipients.
00:09:59.460But, you know, the pandemic touched every single American.
00:10:04.880It is the greatest public health crisis of our generation.
00:10:08.160And it's very frustrating that the administration is acting like it never happened.
00:10:12.900But the consequences of that are this complete lack of trust that people have in the system.
00:10:19.180My son broke his wrist the other day, and I was five hours away, and he had to go to the – I got a text that said ambulance and hospital and fentanyl.
00:10:31.660And I, you know, my stomach, I was just beside myself, and I was five hours away.
00:10:37.980And this was in West Texas in Uvalde, you know, at the Frio River.
00:10:42.900And, you know, I was worried about his injury, but I was more worried about what they were going to do to him in the hospital.
00:10:50.020And thankfully, I had three moms there, very like-minded.
00:10:54.300They recorded the whole thing, and it all turned out great.
00:10:57.480And actually, it exceeded my expectations.
00:10:59.960But that's what's going on is that, you know, we should not be worried about getting emergency treatment at a hospital.
00:11:08.100But that's where we are because of what happened during the pandemic.
00:11:11.600And the administration has done nothing to correct it.
00:11:15.040Right. Well, and that's the thing about the fact that, you know, the the perjury charge for Dr. Fauci just expired.
00:11:22.060I don't understand how that I mean, to me, what he's done is committed crimes against humanity.
00:11:26.400So I don't understand, you know, how that could expire after five years.
00:11:29.720The perjury was, you know, in pursuit of the crimes he was committing.
00:11:34.060Right. He lied about the cover up about the crimes of, you know, creating and releasing this virus,
00:11:38.900and then covering up the origin of it so they could, you know, get people to take vaccines.
00:11:42.500I mean, that's the crime. So I don't understand how that statute of limitations has expired.
00:11:45.900I don't think it has. But, you know, when it expired, it's like they're going to do it again.
00:11:49.980You're supposed to punish these people so that they don't try to do this again.
00:11:54.100And yeah, to ensure the American people of, hey, if somebody abuses the fear that they've created in you,
00:12:00.360if they, you know, come up with a scheme to get you to take a product so they can make money,
00:12:04.640we're going to hold them to account. So, you know, you can trust our system.
00:12:07.580if people abuse it it's possible they abuse it but we will hunt them down and hold them to account
00:12:12.100for it that would go a lot of ways and you know refurbishing the trust that people have lost for
00:12:17.420the medical industry in particular but really it's about saying you're not going to be allowed to do
00:12:21.660this again because they haven't punished anybody that did it to us the first time and it looks an
00:12:25.920awful lot like they're gearing up for the next round hantavirus was the big one recently a bull
00:12:30.980ebola i see like these little signals they're not making a big deal out of it yet but people in the
00:12:36.420Congo are like burning clinics down who are there to treat Ebola. And I don't know which side I'm
00:12:42.560on necessarily. I don't know, you know, what they're learning that would make them want to
00:12:45.940burn the clinics down. But I instinctively am on their side. I think it's a good thing the clinics
00:12:51.240are being burned down. Maybe that's a bad reaction, but it seems like they're trying to do it again.
00:12:55.740And this is going to happen because we didn't punish people the first time. Do you think Ebola
00:13:00.220is a big deal? Do you think we should be making a big deal, bigger deal out of it? Or do you think
00:13:04.260it's being you know pumped up to cause the fear what's your take on the on the new ebola outbreak
00:13:08.920i mean no one wants to get ebola it's a horrible virus but uh it is you know my gut is that this
00:13:17.560is all hyperbole um you know the area of the world where this is occurring is is third world to the
00:13:26.300infinite degree i mean there there's civil war going on it's in a rural area they have very
00:13:32.240poor health infrastructure to begin with. And, yeah, the numbers are not that high. Now, I guess,
00:13:41.360yes, they could climb, but the last real big pandemic, or not pandemic, outbreak,
00:13:47.740it was, you know, much, much worse. So it was 28,000 people became infected. So we're nowhere
00:13:57.680near that. And I, yeah, it may become a problem in that area of the world, but I'm not worried
00:14:06.700at all that it's going to come to the United States and create a big outbreak in the United
00:14:11.240States. But it is one of those where, you know, unlike COVID where, you know, it really wasn't
00:14:17.520dangerous to little kids and, you know, you could, you could basically treat it like the flu and have
00:14:22.400a pretty dang good chance, like 99 plus percent chance of surviving and being okay on the other
00:14:26.540side ebola it's a whole different story right and i i wonder i mean we saw the way that they were
00:14:31.740willing to destroy people's lives they were willing to try to crush people like yourself
00:14:35.000under covid i'm like these people are so crazy maybe they will weaponize ebola maybe the next
00:14:40.100time it it really will be a deadly and horrifying disease and you know maybe they're setting us up
00:14:46.680all to be suckers not sure i just think it's so dangerous what they're able to do with with
00:14:50.760diseases now and we are doing nothing to try to contain that and it seems as though we have no
00:14:55.080ability to effectively combat the viruses in any way. And this was a big complaint we had
00:15:01.500about the WHO, you know, under COVID, they let it spread all over the world before they took
00:15:06.300their first step. If their whole point of existing is to identify and contain emergent diseases,
00:15:11.200where the hell were they? And then with the Hantavirus thing on the ship,
00:15:14.260they let everybody get off the ship and go home. And it's like, you know, we're paying billions of
00:15:18.840dollars to these international organizations and they do less than nothing when it comes to these
00:15:22.840outbreaks. The monkeypox was another one. It was contained. It was on a small island in the Canary
00:15:27.520Islands off Spain, and they let everybody go home and spread it around. But that sort of fell flat
00:15:32.500when they tried to make that the next pandemic. But I mean, are they even trying to combat this
00:15:37.060stuff? And I wouldn't be scared of Ebola normally, but it seems like they'd be willing to introduce
00:15:43.040Ebola into this population if they thought they could benefit somehow. Yeah, I saw that the World
00:15:50.000Health Organization leader, Tedros, is against shutting down the borders to contain this,
00:15:56.700which makes it's common sense. I don't understand that at all. Now, Ebola is so lethal that it is
00:16:03.540hard to spread in normal, you know, first world countries. The people in Africa, there's
00:16:12.140death rituals where they touch the deceased, and they have this poor sanitation situation.
00:16:20.500So people need to keep in mind that it's very unlikely that it could spread far and wide
00:16:39.020And speaking of the fear they used to control us and just going back to the beginning of our conversation today, the book, of course, is Dangerous Misinformation, the Virus, the Treatments and the Lies by Dr. Mary Bowden.
00:16:52.100And you can follow her on X at Mary Bowden, MD. Do you regret anything, doctor?
00:16:56.260Do you regret taking this choice to stand up against the medical industry?
00:17:00.520Wouldn't your life be so much better if you just kept your head down and did as you were told and were just an anonymous person in the medical industry in Houston?
00:17:10.540So do you have any regrets about telling the truth?
00:17:12.560What advice would you give to people who maybe find themselves in a situation similar to yours in the future?
00:18:12.320And, yeah, I mean, I can't imagine living the other way.
00:18:16.120But honestly, when you, you know, stand up against these big, powerful forces and when it's like there's really nothing that feels better than that.
00:18:23.260I can't imagine anything else. Speaking of the big, powerful forces, I want to go to this video just broke just sort of ironically right before you came on.
00:18:30.100I saw this video and asked the crew to bring it in. Pediatricians are being incentivized directly by HMOs to force vaccines.
00:18:36.360This has been going on for a while, but it's still going on, you know, to a very heavy degree.
00:18:39.980I was wondering if you could give us your insight on into somebody who's probably experienced this type of pressure.
00:18:44.500Let's go to this video now. This is from The High Wire. Pediatricians incentivized by HMOs. Let's watch.
00:18:50.020What is the truth? Because I hear back and forth. I mean, do pediatricians get incentivized with percent vaccination of their?
00:18:56.840Yes. Dr. Paul Thomas has done a very good video on that and many other pediatricians have followed.
00:19:02.000Maybe Dr. Hooker could answer better on that.
00:19:05.120Yeah, they're typically incentivized directly by HMOs. HMOs buy and sell vaccines.
00:19:11.080So vaccines are big businesses for HMOs. But the incentivization is usually anywhere from $200 to $600 per fully vaccinated patient.
00:19:22.320As long as their vaccines, a certain percentage of their practice is fully vaccinated.
00:19:28.240So some pediatricians can make upwards to a million or more a year just in those incentives.
00:19:34.520wow i've also heard stories of pediatricians basically firing patients because they won't
00:19:39.820get vaccinated because that'll that's correct we hear that story over and over again and also
00:19:45.180the lies that the pediatrician tell tell us that our baby will die if we don't get vitamin k at
00:19:49.960birth the baby will bleed out before it gets to the car and these stories if you don't get the
00:19:54.100hpv vaccine then you will die of cancer these parents have told us these stories and they're
00:19:59.140the same over and over again how can they get away with lying like that to us the parents
00:20:03.700It's absolutely horrifying. And just knowing that that what should be considered a sacred profession being a doctor, I mean, you take you take this oath to, you know, should really be seen as something elevated above normal professions.
00:20:15.680And yet it's degraded down to this salesman of poison. It's it's disgusting. Were you ever pressured like that? And in your experience as a doctor?
00:20:23.220well i don't contrast with hmos or insurance companies but i think my most the most popular
00:20:31.160tweet i ever posted was you know i treated over 6 000 covid patients and if i had given all those
00:20:37.700patients the covid shot i would have made 1.5 million dollars from this one it was blue cross
00:20:43.980blue shield there's a and it's all laid out on paper where the bonus structure for giving those
00:20:50.020shots. And yeah, personally, I, my 18 year old son went to our pediatrician and I wasn't there
00:20:57.220at the appointment and he was pressured into getting the meningitis shot based on false data
00:21:03.760that the doctor scared him and told him he would, you know, he had a 25% chance of dying. If he got
00:21:09.540meningitis, he didn't give him any of the potential risk about getting the shot. Didn't tell him that
00:21:16.040if something goes wrong and he's permanently injured, he has no recourse against the drug
00:21:21.560company. Um, so yeah, it's, uh, it's definitely a problem, especially now, you know, the COVID
00:21:28.580shot, not as much as an issue, but just general vaccines, people are much more, uh, vaccine
00:21:34.040hesitant and doctors, pediatricians are firing these patients. I have patients coming to me very
00:21:39.460often about that, that problem that they're having. Yeah, absolutely. And, and it can be
00:21:44.300hard to stand up against the pressure if you're not you know armed with the information it's
00:21:48.700sort of the best example i often bring up when talking about like how you need the information
00:21:53.240at hand or you need to be confident enough in your understanding of it to where when they're
00:21:57.560sitting there going you have a 25 chance of dying you can hit them back with no i don't i know the
00:22:02.660stats or just look i think you're lying to me and i'm not going to do it you have you have to
00:22:07.240have the confidence to stand up to it because that pressure is real and when it's coming from
00:22:11.200somebody in a lab coat it does something to our brain we want to believe them and we want to you
00:22:16.460know make the right choice and it's that pressure that they wield against us to get us to go along
00:22:21.080with the uh the the poison shots it's absolutely disgusting uh and yet they're making bank off of
00:22:25.980it and uh it really is it really is pathetic so again uh people can get the book dangerous
00:22:31.740misinformation the virus the treatments and the lies by dr mary boden you follow her at doctor
00:23:00.060is to get politicians who are willing to state
00:23:02.940that the COVID shots should be pulled off the market.
00:23:04.900And, you know, it's sort of a litmus test. People criticize me for being this one issue voter, but it's so hard to find the, not pediatricians, politicians who are willing to state this. It is so controversial. But as of now, we have 299 elected officials. We have about 55 candidates who are running for office.
00:23:26.580Iowa is a big election coming up next week.
00:23:29.740We actually have three people running for governor in Iowa who have signed our pledge.
00:24:14.320Mary Tyler Bowden, thank you so much for being here with us at Mary Bowden, MD on X.
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00:26:37.400good thing to have this type of pressure. And maybe that's just me, maybe that's just my
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00:26:46.160like, you know, if you're just going to get paid anyway, why should you work all that hard? If it
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