The Alex Jones Show Live - October 28, 2026


🌎THE MEGA FOURTH TURNING CONVERGENCE IS HERE!

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00:00:00.000 Until this scarcity restructuring finishes, and as we go through this fourth turning on
00:00:07.660 this iteration here of the declining phase, everything that we've seen destroyed across
00:00:13.280 the Middle East is going to stay offline on purpose until they need to rebuild it for
00:00:18.460 something in the future.
00:00:19.780 And that's not going to be next week or next year.
00:00:22.040 It's going to be sometime in the future.
00:00:23.340 It will be built a decade again from now when some sort of impetus to restart the economy
00:00:29.340 we're coming into the contraction phase right now the old system of economy needs to break and be
00:00:34.340 replaced with tokenization and new digital rails for payments across the planet cross-border
00:00:39.100 payments settlements between nations companies and everything in between including you having
00:00:43.920 everything moved over to stable coins that you consider dear and you hold your u.s dollars
00:00:48.580 everything all across the planet needs to go tokenized first the economy restructured and
00:00:53.820 then at that point the determination of how many people shall remain or be allowed to remain
00:00:58.580 in the new system. And then the rebuild will start out with that. It seems that we're at this
00:01:03.140 crucial point right now where everything had been planned. We're coming on a multiple cycles
00:01:07.760 overlaying on top of themselves, not only the 80 year, where you consider fourth turning cycle,
00:01:13.160 but then we come into solar cycles on the 400 year cycles, which is five of those
00:01:18.060 fourth turning cycles at a 400 year time period of a grand solar minimum and strange solar activity
00:01:25.540 and strange behavings on the planet,
00:01:28.100 cloud cells and jet streams going out of their normal flows.
00:01:31.480 And I'm just wondering how this all weaves together
00:01:33.660 because you couldn't come clean to the populace like,
00:01:35.780 hey, we knew this cycle was going to dent into food production,
00:01:38.700 but keep paying your taxes and keep investing.
00:01:41.700 But then all these things are coming right now
00:01:43.320 that are just taking the knees out of our agricultural production,
00:01:46.340 all right in the timeline of solar-driven disturbances
00:01:51.360 as well in food production.
00:01:52.840 So there's something else much deeper going on here with your tokenized money supply and stable coins is going to be tied to some sort of digital rationing card.
00:02:01.660 And it would be so easy to integrate all those in one fell swoop instead of trying to piecemeal them out where, oh, here's your digital ID for your bank account.
00:02:11.980 OK, jump through all those hoops and hurdles.
00:02:14.000 OK, now we need a digital for your tokenized home ownership.
00:02:18.260 OK.
00:02:19.720 And then what if you could get them through hunger first?
00:02:22.420 It'll be a one-application digital ID that opts you into every single thing at the exact same time.
00:02:28.960 Which one's going to fast-track that?
00:02:30.920 Absolutely, the hunger will.
00:02:32.580 The hunger will.
00:02:34.480 Back in the Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, it's Alex Jones.
00:02:41.320 And once again, you are the Paul Revere's.
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00:02:53.260 We've only just begun to fight.
00:03:00.540 But we're going to get serious here for this segment.
00:03:03.060 I'm going to be joined shortly by David Dubine from Adapt 2030
00:03:06.180 to talk about the global food crisis that continues to accelerate
00:03:10.340 because of the continued conflict, of course, with Iran and the Middle East
00:03:14.560 and how it's actually growing.
00:03:16.300 But then on top of that, some crazy things are happening.
00:03:19.020 with food infrastructure, even domestically.
00:03:21.420 For example, just in the last few days,
00:03:23.640 the Quaker Oats plant in, I think, Cedar Rapids
00:03:27.620 just blew up, massive detonation.
00:03:30.420 Nobody was hurt or killed, thank goodness.
00:03:32.660 But that plant processed, I think,
00:03:34.620 2 million pounds of oats per day,
00:03:37.140 and it is currently offline, pending an investigation.
00:03:40.700 Why are food facilities blowing up?
00:03:43.040 I think we're going to get some answers today with our guests.
00:03:45.280 So to the producers, just let me know when David is with us
00:03:47.760 and we'll bring him in.
00:03:49.020 But until then, I want to see if we can get an overhead shot of this graphic, or maybe you have the graphic, of the sulfur crisis that is unfolding right now.
00:03:58.680 I want to explain this in detail.
00:04:01.080 Now, out of the Strait of Hormuz comes a lot of sulfur.
00:04:05.500 Oh, yeah, we have our guest, David.
00:04:07.460 Welcome, David, to the show.
00:04:09.480 You're live here on the Alex Jones Show, fourth hour.
00:04:12.440 Mike Adams here for the audience.
00:04:13.580 But welcome, David.
00:04:14.220 It's great to have you here.
00:04:16.380 Yeah, I appreciate you having me.
00:04:17.860 Thank you so much for bringing me on to talk about this.
00:04:21.300 I saw also right over here on Natural News, the article you were talking about, global
00:04:25.800 sulfur crisis, explained the invisible choke point that could break food, energy, and industry.
00:04:32.620 Yeah, absolutely.
00:04:33.120 That's where that graphic's coming from.
00:04:34.960 Right.
00:04:35.340 Great graphic, by the way.
00:04:36.800 So we can talk about all things fertilizer and where we can expect food prices to go
00:04:42.620 over next year.
00:04:43.880 Well, absolutely.
00:04:44.940 That's why I invited you on the show because you're so well informed on this topic.
00:04:49.460 So let me set it up for the audience here to understand this, that if people are wondering, where does the sulfur come from?
00:04:56.260 Well, the sulfur comes from the oil and the natural gas because you've heard the term sour oil.
00:05:04.280 Sour means high sulfur content.
00:05:06.320 In fact, it's too much sulfur.
00:05:07.660 So you actually have to remove the sulfur from the oil in order to be able to refine the oil.
00:05:12.520 But there's also sour gas, which is a natural gas like what comes out of Qatar with Qatar energy, where you have to remove sulfur from that gas.
00:05:22.040 That's part of the whole gasification train system.
00:05:24.900 So you end up with this essentially a waste product of excess sulfur, but then sulfur itself becomes the input for sulfuric acid, which is probably the most important molecule in all of industry around the world.
00:05:39.680 but also then inputs into fertilizer itself, into agriculture,
00:05:46.140 but also the sulfuric acid, as you know, David,
00:05:48.800 is used to extract phosphates from phosphate ore
00:05:52.960 in order to create phosphate-based fertilizers.
00:05:55.760 So let me just put an end cap on that, David,
00:05:58.960 and I'd love you to walk the audience through this.
00:06:01.920 But the sulfur comes from the oil and the gas.
00:06:05.300 That's why we have so much sulfur above ground.
00:06:07.580 So when oil and gas are disrupted, sulfur is disrupted, and eventually global food supplies and fertilizer and agriculture begin to dwindle because of that scarcity.
00:06:19.260 So David, what would you like to add to that, or did I say anything wrong you want to correct or add to? Go for it.
00:06:25.900 yeah everything you spoke about there is correct and i have some maps here of global production
00:06:32.260 of phosphate rock because if we can't get it from oil refining or natural gas production
00:06:37.640 we're going to have to go old school and start digging it out and go back to the 1800s guano
00:06:42.500 mining but you have to think about are we going to be in sedimentary rock digging it out and i
00:06:47.700 have the two locations with the most phosphate rock on the planet literally need to go back to
00:06:52.200 mining again and dig it out and then process that out of the host rock, sandstone for a better term.
00:06:59.120 Morocco and China are the two big dogs with all the phosphate rock. Now, when you're talking about
00:07:05.520 the pile of yellow dust out of that Caspian Sea Basin, Kazakhstan has a huge amount along with
00:07:11.220 Canada and so does Tajikistan. Those were the two bigs that I found that have some millions of tons
00:07:16.760 laying around that they could add to the world's supply. Other than that, once that easy low-hanging
00:07:22.000 fruit's gone we're right back at digging it out of the ground and can you imagine the energy used
00:07:27.200 for that if they're going to thermal extract it we do we even have the acids i know they use
00:07:32.620 nitric acid sometime for extraction we don't have any of that i mean the whole you know gulf is
00:07:38.260 shut down so all the base acids coming out to even get us to that point we're back at square
00:07:44.380 one again we're literally going back into pioneering days again right right and if we
00:07:50.400 move backwards in time in terms of fertilizer you know mining slash extraction then we can't
00:07:58.800 support the eight billion person population that is on the planet today or at least that's you know
00:08:05.040 those are the official numbers that we're told whether or not they're accurate let's just say
00:08:08.260 it's roughly eight billion before these fertilizers were created like this including nitrogenous
00:08:14.560 fertilizers, you know, the planet can only support maybe 4 billion people. And if you have to go back
00:08:21.440 to doing it the hard way before, let's say, the automation of farming with farming equipment and
00:08:27.460 diesel engines and tractors, you might only be able to support 2 billion people, which would
00:08:32.440 be a 75% die-off of the current population. So David, how much risk is there that we're going
00:08:40.260 to be shifting back in that direction where 8 billion people simply cannot be supported
00:08:45.880 by the inputs that are necessary for agriculture to function.
00:08:53.380 Until this scarcity restructuring finishes, and as we go through this fourth turning on
00:09:01.280 this iteration here of the declining phase, everything that we've seen destroyed across
00:09:06.880 of the Middle East is going to stay offline on purpose until they need to rebuild it for
00:09:12.060 something in the future. And that's not going to be next week or next year. It's going to be
00:09:15.960 sometime in the future. It will be built a decade again from now when some sort of impetus to
00:09:21.760 restart the economy. We're coming into the contraction phase right now. And if you want
00:09:26.880 to walk back in time, I'll take you back to Ukraine back when the Holmodor occurred. This 0.91
00:09:32.800 is when the real jumps in farming came, and the wheat farmers had all this new technology,
00:09:38.980 you know, horse-driven with belts to try to, you know, scythe things versus doing it by hand. 0.89
00:09:43.920 They became the wealthiest people in Ukraine, and because of that, well, then the Bolsheviks 0.85
00:09:48.720 came in and were like, look at them. They're the rich ones. They're causing you all the problems.
00:09:52.380 But if you really want to study mechanization jumps in technology on how that put, we can still
00:09:58.760 do it with horses, but I don't know a lot of people that have horses. But we can bring it up
00:10:02.740 substantially of what even they had in the 1930s. And I would encourage you to look at Ukraine
00:10:07.660 and how they absolutely just went from mediocre wheat production to the world's largest wheat
00:10:13.500 producers by using this new tech that they had. It beat the United States for production for a
00:10:18.760 few years until, well, that was wiped out at the knees as other political factors occurred there.
00:10:24.300 But there are going to be a chaos phase as well.
00:10:28.280 Like the chaos phase is a needed part of the transition that we're going through right now.
00:10:33.200 When will that ignite off?
00:10:35.560 Well, we can kind of see it in Europe right now.
00:10:37.240 We're starting to see it in Brazil.
00:10:38.920 You know, if they're going to have a problem growing food down there because of the civil unrest in Brazil, is that another, you know, check the box.
00:10:44.840 We took another area of production offline, Ukraine's offline.
00:10:48.340 Everywhere you look, we've got 70-year lows in wheat in America.
00:10:51.160 And it's just, it goes on and on and on.
00:10:54.300 So the chaos phase will be used at some point.
00:10:57.440 And when it does, is the food going to be used as a weapon like it has through history?
00:11:03.240 Well, I'm glad you that's the question.
00:11:04.860 Somebody's going to fight for that food.
00:11:06.000 You say only half the productions there, then half the people are going to eat.
00:11:10.100 And today's world's not really a kind world.
00:11:12.340 It's a very angry world.
00:11:13.340 So people are going to start fighting for the resource.
00:11:15.680 The chaos stage.
00:11:16.880 Yeah, you're absolutely correct.
00:11:18.160 phase now in addition to that i want to get your sense of the duration of this scarcity because i
00:11:26.940 think the average american is under the impression that well you know the war is going to end and as
00:11:33.140 soon as it ends like all all the the food supply comes back online you know like all the prices
00:11:38.180 you know get cheaper again like immediately you know the oil is going to start flowing
00:11:42.420 immediately all the gas is going to flow but we know that's not the case because we know qatar
00:11:46.940 Energy, for example, already issued force majeure letters and statements saying that
00:11:51.840 it will take them three to five years to repair the two destroyed gas trains right now, which
00:11:59.020 took 17% of their gas production offline. But since then, there's been a lot more damage
00:12:06.780 because of Ansar Allah and fighting the Saudi kingdom and destroying infrastructure,
00:12:12.920 the pumping stations for the east-west pipeline, for example, destroying oil storage facilities.
00:12:17.740 And also since then, there's been an uptick in Ukraine drones, you know, slash European drones
00:12:23.120 fired from Ukraine, destroying a lot of infrastructure, oil storage, refining and
00:12:28.040 distribution hubs in Russia, which is also impacting the world marketplace for all of this.
00:12:33.980 So David, my question to you with that setup is how many years is it going to take before we could
00:12:41.260 even get back to 2025 levels of you know fertilizer energy oil gas sulfur etc like
00:12:50.340 like can we get to 2025 by 2030 you see what i'm saying what what do you say
00:12:55.380 what's the restructuring plan of our world going on right now the old system of economy needs to
00:13:02.280 break and be replaced with tokenization and new digital rails for payments across the planet
00:13:07.100 cross-border payments, settlements between nations, companies, and everything in between,
00:13:10.940 including you, having everything moved over to stablecoins that you consider dear and you hold
00:13:15.800 your U.S. dollars. Everything all across the planet needs to go tokenized first, the economy
00:13:21.060 restructured, and then at that point, the determination of how many people shall remain
00:13:25.860 or be allowed to remain in the new system, and then the rebuild will start out with that.
00:13:30.860 And again, I would ask the question, how many years advanced tech does our military have versus
00:13:36.380 is what we're seeing out in the open now.
00:13:38.140 Are there new energy devices out there
00:13:41.540 that can provide energy for us
00:13:42.900 that are suddenly going to come on the scene
00:13:44.440 that will replace what you just described
00:13:46.900 as the destroyed infrastructure
00:13:48.740 where we might not need it any longer?
00:13:50.700 And it's just being taken offline
00:13:52.260 to have some end to a goal,
00:13:55.240 but it'll be replaced by something new.
00:13:58.140 And traditionally, if you're just asking the question today,
00:14:01.080 five to 10 years after the chaos phase is over.
00:14:04.260 Now, we haven't entered the true chaos phase yet.
00:14:07.540 Once that completes, then I would say five to 10 years to get back on.
00:14:11.180 But, you know, which is first, the chicken or the egg?
00:14:13.680 You need a lot of these, again, acids to produce base metals to form into pipes, for example.
00:14:20.040 And how many pipe fitters and welders are out there that are going to disappear?
00:14:23.340 How much replacement parts and, you know, can we even get to start that process of rebuilding
00:14:29.040 if we don't have the base constituents to even start the process?
00:14:34.260 After mining to get us the metals, we're kind of in this chicken and the egg phase even after everything stabilizes.
00:14:39.980 Let me connect the dots because you just said something very important there, David.
00:14:44.620 But let me add some more context.
00:14:47.140 So copper and zinc mining, which not only produces copper and zinc but also produces then silver because silver is mined only really as a byproduct of mostly copper and zinc mining.
00:15:00.960 But copper and zinc mining, which is necessary for a power grid infrastructure, obviously, and industry and electronics, etc., is only possible when you have sulfuric acid.
00:15:11.500 And sulfuric acid is only possible when you have sulfur coming out of the oil and the gas that's being extracted out of the ground by different countries, but largely in the Persian Gulf.
00:15:20.980 So, David, even if we develop like a magical energy box, you know, Mr. Fusion from Hollywood, and it could just provide endless electricity for everybody, even if that existed tomorrow, that wouldn't provide the sulfur that we need to do the mining for the copper and the zinc for industry and power transmission lines and modern electronics and computing, etc.
00:15:47.580 So, you know, you're painting a picture of possible alternatives, and I agree with you, but speak to the fact that if we don't get the hydrocarbon energy coming out of the Persian Gulf, then we're not going to have the sulfur that's needed to be a base input into the rest of the economic infrastructure that you've been describing.
00:16:14.340 Can you speak to that?
00:16:15.260 I would and maybe I'll take it in a slightly different direction which layer of society do 0.57
00:16:21.300 you want to exist first if we want to continue food production to have a base labor force
00:16:25.700 then if we have this magic device then we can go to thermal extraction and electronic
00:16:30.300 electronic furnace processes to get phosphorus back out of that sedimentary rock and at least
00:16:37.340 have fertilizers to provide the world to grow food to keep a labor force up that thing can
00:16:43.560 then come together. We're going to have to go, how do we do it back in the late 1800s to the
00:16:49.400 early 1900s? Are we talking stepping that far back in time again and restarting? I mean,
00:16:54.420 literally with gallons versus tankers full, is this where we start again? And I really can't,
00:17:00.580 you know, the carrying capacity of the world at that point is under 3 billion. Absolutely.
00:17:05.460 I mean, you're talking about civilizational reset.
00:17:06.840 We told him all these plans to reduce population coming right about now anyway. I mean,
00:17:10.760 it fits exactly the timeline oh yeah and by the way they're showing the infographic there um nickel
00:17:16.080 is also a key element that's extracted with the help of sulfuric acid and as as you know david
00:17:22.700 um almost all of the the batteries the lithium iron phosphate batteries or different battery
00:17:28.580 chemistries many of them use nickel as you know as as part of that mixture so you can't even really
00:17:36.400 go to a so-called green economy without extracting oil, because the oil gives you the sulfur.
00:17:43.440 The sulfur extracts the copper for the wiring and the nickel for the batteries for the green
00:17:49.860 economy.
00:17:50.340 You see what I mean?
00:17:50.740 So the green economy doesn't have a mechanism by itself to achieve the mining of these metals
00:17:59.480 without oil and gas being extracted at the same time.
00:18:02.840 so there's and David I mean you're well informed which is why I'm having you on the show
00:18:08.360 but almost nobody knows this almost nobody in Congress knows this almost nobody who makes
00:18:15.180 decisions about this in government or regulators knows this information they think like at one
00:18:22.260 point Trump said yeah we don't need oil from the Middle East we could just get it all ourselves
00:18:25.460 well what about the sulfur you know what about the diesel what about the distillates of the oil
00:18:31.660 That's why we're buying oil from Russia right now.
00:18:35.620 And it's being celebrated by the White House.
00:18:37.600 You see what I mean?
00:18:41.400 David, go ahead.
00:18:43.400 Aviation's going to take a hit, too.
00:18:44.640 You just mentioned distillates.
00:18:45.860 If you think this doesn't daisy chain down multiple industries deep, you're talking about distillates.
00:18:51.460 Right there we go.
00:18:52.140 We got the diesel and we got the jet fuel.
00:18:53.680 I mean, the next thing to go is jet fuel.
00:18:55.120 And they had, you know, Klaus Schwab and they were very bad of, you know, economic marauders running around the planet had forecast that we were going to fly less.
00:19:02.520 We were going to cut the jets.
00:19:03.920 We were going to go to green energy.
00:19:05.720 And, you know, I beg the question, is the green energy a stopgap measure for a few people to have electricity while this whole thing folds in on itself and then new energy is released later?
00:19:16.520 You know, it seems that this whole fossil fuel thing is being purposely taken offline one slow turn every single day or week.
00:19:24.240 Because, you know, bring it back home here to America. I don't know if anybody saw the news, but the Quaker Oats facility in Iowa, it's the world's largest Quaker Oats facility burned today and is offline.
00:19:37.580 And in the same day, Pacific Seafood in Newport, Oregon, also one of the largest seafood processors in America, burned and all their freezers are out of order.
00:19:45.920 So we lost two of the largest food producers in America today as well.
00:19:51.240 So it's food and energy are continually knocked off line. 0.82
00:19:55.220 And I saw some new laws coming out of India being over here in Asia.
00:19:58.720 They were now trying to pass laws where as a reporter, you're not allowed to write about somebody unless that person gives the OK that you're allowed to write about them.
00:20:07.980 So investigative journalism, as you know, would be dead in India since you put the headline up there.
00:20:12.320 And I heard you in the previous hour.
00:20:14.280 All right. That's wild.
00:20:15.040 By the way, tell our audience how they can track you, your social media, handle your website, etc.
00:20:22.760 Adapt 2030 is the main thing, right?
00:20:25.860 Yeah, Adapt 2030 is the YouTube channel.
00:20:27.760 The Civilization Cycle Podcast is the longer format there, and CivilizationCycle.com is the website.
00:20:36.920 It seems that we're at this crucial point right now where everything had been planned.
00:20:41.320 We're coming on a multiple cycles overlaying on top of themselves, not only the 80 year where you consider fourth turning cycle, but then we come into solar cycles on the 400 year cycles, which is five of those fourth turning cycles at a 400 year time period of a grand solar minimum and strange solar activity and strange behavings on the planet, cloud cells and jet streams going out of their normal flows.
00:21:06.680 and i'm just wondering how this all weaves together because you couldn't come clean to
00:21:10.520 the populace like hey we knew this cycle was going to dent into food production but keep paying your
00:21:15.320 taxes in and keep investing but then all these things are coming right now that are just taking
00:21:19.700 the knees out of our agricultural production all right in in the timeline of solar driven
00:21:26.220 disturbances as well in food production so right there's something else much deeper going on here
00:21:31.320 and that's what i try to get into and you as well i mean your research is so deep and you know on
00:21:36.520 the on the technical side of things as well i follow your work incredibly you know that's why
00:21:40.280 i was looking up some of the articles here today before i came on oh yeah it's just there's
00:21:45.220 something else happening here that's not we're not seeing the complete picture i don't think
00:21:49.780 well um thanks for that and if people you know want to check out my articles of course
00:21:54.760 naturalnews.com is the site that i founded and that's where you'll find my infographics but
00:21:59.740 But to our producers here, can you pull up, when was the population on Earth 4 billion people, roughly half of today?
00:22:08.480 I think that was right around 1971 or 72 or something like that.
00:22:13.700 But we'll let them pull up that answer and show it to the audience.
00:22:16.620 And the reason I'm bringing that up is because the doubling since then has only been made possible by abundant, affordable energy.
00:22:27.300 Oh, there you go.
00:22:27.700 But the world population reached $4 billion around 1974 to 1975.
00:22:33.380 And since then, it has exploded because of these efficiencies of energy and fertilizer derived from the energy or created with the energy inputs, both nitrogenous fertilizers and the phosphate fertilizers.
00:22:46.720 If we lose that benefit of, or even partially lose it, like a 25% cut, which is roughly what the Strait of Hormuz handles in terms of exports of gas and oil and sulfur, etc., you just round it off to 25%, what does that mean for the world?
00:23:05.780 Now, David, we're going to take a break, but I want you to ponder that question, and when we come back right after this break, we'll jump into your answer to that question.
00:23:13.680 What does that look like? Which countries get hit first?
00:23:17.420 And what are the steps that viewers of this program can take right now to prepare themselves for what's coming?
00:23:25.000 So stay tuned with us here, folks.
00:23:26.680 This is Mike Adams with David Dubine from ADAPT 2030 and Civilizational Cycle here on the Alex Jones Show, Fourth Hour.
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00:25:00.460 All right, we're live here on the Alex Jones Show with my dog, Rhodey, here.
00:25:05.200 I don't know if you can see him.
00:25:07.380 Yeah, you having a good time, Brody?
00:25:09.000 Yeah, he's enjoying the show because I tell you what, he's not going to go hungry no matter what happens to the fertilizer situation.
00:25:17.980 And, of course, our guest right now is David Dubine, who's also not going to go hungry because he is ahead of, yeah, there's Brody.
00:25:24.440 He's having a great time.
00:25:25.440 He loves the, I don't know if you've ever been to Alex Jones' studio, but the air conditioning keeps it really at a nice, chill temperature, and my dog loves that.
00:25:36.200 He just lays down on the floor and stays cool.
00:25:38.820 That's the main thing.
00:25:39.880 That's why he loves it here.
00:25:41.400 He just finds a floor, typically, and he's out.
00:25:44.820 But we are talking about food and the urgency of why you need to get prepared because, well, food scarcity is going to get a whole lot worse in 2027 and 28.
00:25:55.040 And I'm saying that 2027 will be, this is my prediction, it will be known as the year of famine.
00:26:02.120 And I'm not saying that Americans are going to be eating each other, although our mutual friend, David Michael Jan, he has predicted cannibalism will occur in the United States.
00:26:12.620 I hope we don't see that because my question to him was, who's going to get eaten?
00:26:16.020 You know, it's my number one question.
00:26:18.360 I hope we don't see cannibalism in the U.S.,
00:26:21.200 but we will most certainly see starvation and famine around the world.
00:26:26.940 So, David, before the break, you know, I asked you to ponder that question.
00:26:31.800 What say you about the duration of how long this is going to last?
00:26:37.600 I have a chart here that I was lucky enough to find earlier
00:26:41.280 when I was surfing around from the World Trade Organization
00:26:44.160 and AXS Marine, they show in January of 2026, 2,960 ships full of fertilizer left during the
00:26:55.240 month of January through the Strait of Hormuz. October, zero. Yeah, now if that puts it into
00:27:04.820 perspective, and even last month in September, September to October was zero, and then also
00:27:09.180 october to present is zero so for the last two months there's been zero uh fertilizer shipments
00:27:15.880 coming out of there and there were nearly three thousand per month prior to this so you have to
00:27:19.880 think about that's bad who could come up with the most ingenious ways to create fertilizer as we did
00:27:26.840 in the olden days and when i say that i am talking about any think about the fertilizer handbook you
00:27:33.680 know how would you create fertilizer on a large enough scale for you on your fit with your families
00:27:38.620 for your own needs in your home garden.
00:27:41.640 But then you're going to have to scale it to a community
00:27:43.640 and then you're going to have to scale it to a state
00:27:45.480 and then we'll have to scale it to a national level. 0.90
00:27:48.980 Without this nitrogenous fertilizers
00:27:51.040 and the help of chemicals to do this,
00:27:52.860 I think we're going to wind the clock back
00:27:54.840 and unless our governments are already behind the ball,
00:27:57.520 it needs to be on a front page news of every single day. 0.99
00:28:00.560 Get your home gardens up. 0.50
00:28:01.620 We got all these designs and plans.
00:28:03.180 We improved from the Victory Gardens in World War II.
00:28:06.260 Everybody's got to produce their own fertilizers.
00:28:08.000 You're going to have to produce your own food to supplement what's not going to be grown.
00:28:11.640 But I don't see that, you know, Manhattan Project type of thing.
00:28:15.340 So until we can get that fertilizer shipment running, and this year is going to be scrimpy
00:28:21.140 for Brazil, because if they're not getting any fertilizer, you know, it's coming into
00:28:26.720 planting season as we go into winter in the Southern Hemisphere.
00:28:30.340 And Australia is dry already.
00:28:32.160 They're predicting crop losses from just dryness down there.
00:28:35.060 in addition to the farmers were at about 70 percent of application because they had some
00:28:39.980 fertilizer. But again, you know, as you go to the poorer countries, they are not going to be able
00:28:45.400 to buy or compete on the international level with the pricing that's going to come in for
00:28:49.300 fertilizer. Right. So to answer the question, it's going to be a hodgepodge of different nations
00:28:54.160 and how quickly they recover based on the economic power of these nations. Right. Right. America is
00:29:01.540 trying to shut down everything going to china right now they're trying to dismantle the bricks 0.56
00:29:05.340 by dismantling the energy and it's an attrition game and a waiting game so if you can take off 0.93
00:29:11.220 eat on and you can take down russia and you can take down saudi arabia then china gets starved
00:29:17.100 out of its energy and then bricks kind of falls apart which was a opposition to the u.s dollar
00:29:22.180 right and don't don't be fooled it was only six nations coming together loosely it was more like
00:29:27.860 23 that agreed to join BRICS with member nations, participants, and those who were planning to join.
00:29:35.180 It was a conglomerate of 23 different nations already on that. So who's going to come back
00:29:41.060 is who can afford it. Yeah, let me add to that, David. I'm sorry, there's a delay because you're
00:29:45.700 halfway around the world joining us. And I appreciate you doing that because the time
00:29:48.860 zone is so different. But even when Trump, for example, would brag about how much oil is coming
00:29:55.040 out of the Strait of Hormuz, whether you agree or disagree with his numbers, it's not fertilizer.
00:30:01.920 The fertilizer numbers are near zero, as David was just explaining there, right? And the sulfuric
00:30:07.900 acid numbers are near zero, and also elemental sulfur and other things. And there's one other
00:30:14.160 thing you mentioned, David, about what kind of farming method could we use to actually scale
00:30:19.500 to feed 8 billion people.
00:30:22.580 And of course, I've interviewed many experts on permaculture
00:30:25.300 and regenerative farming and rebuilding soils.
00:30:29.100 And I think you and I would both agree,
00:30:32.080 theoretically, that's a great system,
00:30:34.860 but it takes years to recover from the current agricultural system,
00:30:39.900 which is really the mass poisoning of the soils,
00:30:42.080 the dead soils that have to have all these artificial inputs
00:30:45.140 in order to produce anything.
00:30:46.460 You know, the microbial life of the soil is gone.
00:30:50.280 The trees have been clear-cut to make room for soybean crops, for GMOs, and mass spraying of glyphosate and other pesticides and herbicides.
00:30:58.880 To take that and then make it into permaculture regenerative farming, that's a multi-year process.
00:31:05.940 By that time, half the world's dead.
00:31:07.920 You see what I mean?
00:31:10.340 Dave, what's your reaction to that?
00:31:11.700 I mean, I think you agree with me on that point, but if not, go ahead and say so.
00:31:15.720 you know it's it's an open mic man well it's quite interesting just before the break when
00:31:21.340 you were talking about when we went over four billion people in 1974 and 75 isn't that so
00:31:27.180 interesting that nixon took us off the gold standard and was able to expand the money supply
00:31:31.100 during those same exact years yeah like i think those two are running in tandem for a reason now
00:31:35.800 this is about to contract once again and we have to restructure the entire economy so if that's
00:31:40.960 the case then if you're going to follow that bell curve up it's definitely going to be stepping down
00:31:44.860 again. So perhaps it's going to be those that can take the initiative themselves. Because if you're
00:31:49.760 waiting for government to come in and save you, I'm going to say, you're not going to get the
00:31:53.800 message. This chaos phase is going to be used on purpose to bring and usher in something new.
00:32:02.100 And the newness of it, again, is going to be about a digitized world. And I could just without a
00:32:08.480 shadow of a doubt, see where this new digital ID with your tokenized money supply and stable coins
00:32:14.920 is going to be tied to some sort of digital rationing card. And it would be so easy to
00:32:19.680 integrate all those in one fell swoop instead of trying to piecemeal them out where, oh, here's
00:32:26.020 your digital ID for your bank account. Okay. Jump through all those hoops and hurdles. Okay.
00:32:30.840 Now we need a digital for your tokenized home ownership. Okay. And then what if you could get
00:32:37.540 them through hunger first like it'll be a one application digital id that opts you into every
00:32:43.040 single thing at the exact same time which one's going to fast track that right absolutely the
00:32:48.000 hunger will the hunger will and you're 100 correct if people have to choose between starving or
00:32:54.500 joining the mark of the beast system to have you know their food rationing allotment most people
00:33:00.680 are going to say i don't want to starve i'll join the system to get the food right most people it
00:33:06.260 will only be very few people that will have already prepared with extra food or with extra
00:33:11.140 supplies in order to you know survive all of that i want to mention too uh this platform is supported
00:33:19.540 by key affiliates and sponsors and the food supply sponsor for the alex jones show is survivalnation.com
00:33:29.380 so if you want to help support this show go check out survivalnation.com that not only has
00:33:35.180 various freeze-dried foods, but also they've got water, survival, emergency power, and survival
00:33:41.680 gear, different kinds of kits, more than just food, but different kinds of kits that you will
00:33:46.860 need to be self-reliant. I mean, and again, that website is survivalnation.com. Think about the
00:33:51.340 fact that the U.S. government is telling the military to have a 90-day off-grid supply for
00:33:58.140 all military bases that's food that's water that's energy you know that's not just flashlights but
00:34:06.500 emergency medical supplies and so on well David you and I both know that when people learn to
00:34:11.660 grow more of their own food they can also grow their own medicine to some extent you can grow
00:34:16.940 herbs you can extract medicinal herbs you you can you know boost immune function you can I mean I'm
00:34:23.420 growing like loblolly pine trees here in texas and those pine tree needles are very rich in
00:34:29.140 shikimic acid which ends plagues it that is the molecule that's in tamiflu by the way it's the
00:34:36.400 molecule used in chinese medicine right so you you can you can buy supplies and you can grow
00:34:42.100 supplies if you choose to buy supplies make it a priority to support this platform if you choose
00:34:47.960 to grow supplies, get started right now, if not already, or plan to do so in the spring.
00:34:54.920 David, you want to add anything to that about self-reliance and why people need to not just
00:35:01.540 trust that the system is going to be there when you need it. You're going to need to have off-grid
00:35:05.060 supplies like the military bases, right? Yeah, and if it extends any longer than, say, 90 days
00:35:12.140 or six months, you're going to have to start getting into other things such as seed saving
00:35:16.580 or getting together with your neighbors to do community gardens.
00:35:19.940 Because you and I, we both know, you know, gardening is difficult work
00:35:23.660 and you can do so much of it, two people or one person.
00:35:27.880 But if you have four people, you can produce far more than you could with two.
00:35:31.360 It's an exponential game in terms of hands in the soil
00:35:34.440 on how you can exponentially produce more food
00:35:37.420 by just having an extra person around.
00:35:39.940 You can't believe how much you can get done with one or two extra people
00:35:44.300 versus just the crew you might have around so then you start getting well how do you extend your
00:35:49.800 growing seasons yeah you know what what kind of you know plastics are you putting over your boxes
00:35:54.740 what kind of you know fold over lids are you going to try to construct with that i mean if it goes
00:36:00.060 longer than 90 days uh you're gonna have to worry about security because once people know you're
00:36:05.080 growing food or your community's growing food they're not they're not just going to sit back
00:36:10.180 and be like, okay, that's cool. They're growing food. They're going to come and try to bargain
00:36:16.240 with you first, force you at second, and then just come in and try to steal it at third. If
00:36:21.880 they can't guilt trip you, oh, my hungry kids. Well, that's your problem because you didn't get
00:36:26.520 your hungry kids prepared. So you're all hungry, but y'all had as much time as we did here.
00:36:32.540 I'm just saying if it goes longer than that, and I would anticipate this thing to go for a couple
00:36:37.820 of years they can't get you into a fully new financial system and get you on these uh this
00:36:45.240 new type of management system is the best word i'm going to put for it uh in six months it's
00:36:52.020 impossible to do this is a global phenomenon happening this restructuring is a global
00:36:57.220 initiative and so it's going to be more than six months it's going to be multiple years
00:37:02.300 and once the chaos phase rolls and i'm going to say it's going to be about two years
00:37:06.460 That'll probably bring us to 2029-ish, right around the 2030 goals.
00:37:09.640 At that point on the rollover, then things might return to normal.
00:37:14.380 But it can only be at a fraction of what you're used to now
00:37:16.900 because you see how much destruction going on.
00:37:18.860 This is purposeful destruction.
00:37:20.500 It's not like, oops, we hit part of that refinery over there.
00:37:23.160 It's like target the thing, destroy it, take it completely offline.
00:37:26.980 Yeah, it's on purpose.
00:37:27.640 And prices are going to rise.
00:37:29.240 And definitely, I think it's going to be a persistent high prices
00:37:31.440 and supply chain squeeze from now on.
00:37:33.720 So who benefits from that?
00:37:35.440 Where's your opportunity to move through that?
00:37:38.180 I'm sorry to interrupt, but they know that people can say no to vaccines, right? 0.60
00:37:42.400 So the COVID bioweapons, which were inserted into the needles and called vaccines and protected with the PrEP Act,
00:37:49.580 they realize that people can opt out.
00:37:51.500 People who have knowledge and information and don't want to die by medical suicide, they can say no to the vaccines.
00:37:57.280 But you can't say no to food for very long.
00:38:00.240 That's the thing.
00:38:00.940 They realize that food can get everybody and food scarcity will impact everybody.
00:38:06.860 And when people are hungry enough, they will sign up for that CBDC surveillance, you know,
00:38:10.980 technocracy control grid system that you are describing, David, exactly what they're going
00:38:15.120 to do.
00:38:15.720 But so what's a good defense against that?
00:38:18.080 You know, well, if you don't want to lose all your money, have gold and silver, right?
00:38:23.100 Or maybe some crypto, something that governments can't completely destroy like they can currency.
00:38:27.840 have some food, have some survival supplies, be able to filter your own water, be able to grow
00:38:34.300 some of your own medicine. The more resilient you are, the more off-grid you are, then the harder
00:38:41.100 it is for the system to control you and to press you into giving up your freedom or even giving up
00:38:47.040 your soul in some kind of a mark of the beast system. So resilience becomes actually your
00:38:53.020 your survival at every level when we don't we don't say survival in a flippant way like oh you
00:38:59.720 need three days to survive like a weekend storm we're talking about are you and your family going
00:39:04.400 to exist for the future of human civilization right that's that's what i mean david your website
00:39:11.460 you know civilization cycles you know exactly what we're talking about here you you document
00:39:16.280 these things. Civilizations rise and fall, do they not? They do. And as you were talking about
00:39:24.120 in the previous hour with Rex about eventually the censorship's coming for offline AI models
00:39:31.400 to be able to correlate an enormous amount of data, like terabytes of survival information
00:39:36.120 and running it through an offline AI to be able to repair things on the go or plant something
00:39:41.580 that's going to be a forbidden fruit. So while you have this short window of opportunity to be
00:39:46.200 able to order books through whatever you know online platform you want to get those things like
00:39:51.180 the fertilizer handbook get the things on construction get books on you know growing
00:39:55.500 medicinals and how to turn those into something i bought an ultrasonic uh uh cleaning machine
00:40:00.880 because you know reading on how to extract things from you of all things talking about the pine
00:40:04.940 needles that you keep a gas yeah back in the day when covid was first starting you're talking about
00:40:08.900 just get an ultrasonic cleaner and be able to like extract and be able to separate things in
00:40:13.020 in situ in the volume of water or alcohol you're using.
00:40:17.540 I was like, okay, great.
00:40:18.260 I'll get one of those.
00:40:19.500 But you have to be able to know how to use it.
00:40:21.480 Yeah.
00:40:22.260 Let me just give the audience a recipe.
00:40:24.600 Again, sorry to interrupt.
00:40:25.680 But if you want to make herbal tinctures really rapidly in 45 minutes instead of waiting for
00:40:31.080 weeks, you get yourself an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner.
00:40:34.180 They're about like this size.
00:40:35.580 They just sit on your desk.
00:40:36.960 And the overall formula is half water, half alcohol.
00:40:41.120 like the most high-octane consumable grain alcohol that you can get
00:40:46.520 or just vodka, half water, half vodka.
00:40:49.820 It's the overall, it's the best mixture.
00:40:52.860 And then chop up your herbs and put them in there, 0.97
00:40:55.340 run that sucker for 20 to 45 minutes, 0.98
00:40:57.780 and boom, you have an herbal extraction. 0.98
00:41:00.080 And the water gets out some nutrients
00:41:01.900 and the alcohol gets out some other phytochemicals
00:41:05.440 or plant-based chemicals, which are the medicinal extractions.
00:41:08.580 And then you just drain off that liquid.
00:41:10.080 you have made a tincture in less than an hour versus weeks and weeks and weeks of waiting for
00:41:16.000 it so i mean and that's the power of ultrasonic you know little cleaners so thanks david for
00:41:22.160 allowing me to explain sharing information mike i'm telling you it's the power of sharing
00:41:25.380 information yes without you sharing that information i wouldn't have gotten and i
00:41:28.700 wouldn't have told other people about the same exact techniques or machines to buy because
00:41:33.580 eventually what happens if the supply chain of those particular ultrasonic cleaners dries up
00:41:38.900 like i was early in the game i bought a couple of those one as a backup for redundancy always
00:41:43.180 but think about even on youtube where they're doing away with the catch cook and clean channels
00:41:47.840 i mean those have been demonetized as much even more than the firearms channels so why is it that
00:41:54.520 youtube will go out of their way to demote and not recommend and demonetize channels that are
00:42:00.160 showing you how to hunt how to fish and then how to clean those animals after you're finished with
00:42:05.160 it. That is a purposeful reduction of information. If you're going to be wild foraging or if you're
00:42:09.360 going to go out and try to find protein sources or get some oils from some, you know, animals and
00:42:14.080 render things down, fats, for example, that information is disappearing. So if it's disappearing
00:42:20.180 already off really at the easiest edge of your fingertips, you want to probably get some hard
00:42:24.880 books. So even if the electricity goes down, you can finger through the books, you know,
00:42:28.920 turn the pages and do something with that. Well, David, having something offline, you know,
00:42:33.680 as you suggested for an AI model
00:42:36.040 is a great idea, too.
00:42:37.100 Actually, I'm going to release this year
00:42:39.440 something free and open source
00:42:41.560 that's better than an AI model.
00:42:43.020 It's actually, it's a knowledge model.
00:42:45.580 And, you know, if Alex invites me back on the show,
00:42:48.580 I'll be happy to, you know, talk about it here.
00:42:50.240 But it's a free downloadable knowledge model
00:42:52.160 that you can ask it any question.
00:42:55.220 It doesn't need a GPU, runs on any laptop.
00:42:58.080 And it has all the knowledge
00:42:59.940 that we've ever published for 25 years.
00:43:02.100 You'll be able to extract that knowledge
00:43:03.620 in question and answer format and it has its own built-in API so you can you can point your local
00:43:09.880 AI agent or agentic harness like Hermes you can point Hermes at our model running locally on your
00:43:16.880 computer and start asking it questions and start churning out all the data on survival food
00:43:21.760 production food preparedness everything so I'm going to be releasing that this year at Natural
00:43:27.260 News just just just to pay it forward you know just to contribute to that knowledge base because
00:43:31.580 like you David you know I want to have like a local library of all the how-to knowledge
00:43:35.740 but I want it in digital form and I want it instantly searchable so that's what this is
00:43:40.860 and I don't even have a name for it yet but I'll come up with one but but I'm going to be
00:43:45.340 releasing that this year and in addition to that you need offline stuff you need physical books as
00:43:51.280 well right I think you would agree with me David like that's the final backup is ink on paper right
00:43:57.120 but if you've got a computer that works or if you can charge a laptop off a solar panel
00:44:02.220 then you're going to be able to have access to all this knowledge at your fingertips
00:44:06.100 completely open source and completely free of charge and that's the power of decentralized
00:44:10.860 knowledge and that's what drives governments insane especially like left-leaning governments
00:44:15.160 they don't want people to have this knowledge they want you to be a wage slave and a food slave
00:44:19.780 so they can control you and compel you to take actions against your own self-interest
00:44:25.920 So your reaction to that, David, or anything else you want to add?
00:44:30.280 Well, I would say, you know, digitally right now, we saw the PHP hacks go down last week
00:44:35.200 where 75% of the world's websites were vulnerable.
00:44:37.920 And the reason I would say that is the French supermarkets, their refrigerators got turned
00:44:43.320 off.
00:44:43.780 And, you know, as I was doing some videos about that, the media was saying about 300
00:44:48.000 supermarkets were affected, but it turned out to be about 700 supermarkets.
00:44:51.860 So I don't know why they downplayed that.
00:44:53.520 But the online supermarket ordering for, let me see here, Carefor, Neto, Cooperative, Intermarch, Monoprix, and then if we come in here to the United States, Food Lion, Giant, Stop and Shop, and then their parent company, Ahold de Hayes, all went offline.
00:45:11.660 Like you couldn't order anything.
00:45:13.000 So they were telling you, go get DoorDash.
00:45:14.740 Well, I can't afford that.
00:45:16.400 I don't even want to spend my money on DoorDash.
00:45:18.120 I refuse to.
00:45:19.420 But the way that people were looking saying, I am just going to order online.
00:45:22.820 Like these days are coming to an end where this convenience of using the net to be able to get your food supply to your house, this is being turned off also.
00:45:32.680 I can't, the gravity of the situation here on relying on all of this internet ordering things for food, you're really going to have to start to grab this and bring it in and get it real close to you and, you know, start harnessing this and bringing it much closer on your food sovereignty.
00:45:48.360 because the way this was a wake-up call too,
00:45:51.220 they can remotely turn off freezers.
00:45:52.820 Now, what if they remotely turn off
00:45:54.040 every smart refrigerator in America?
00:45:56.380 And what happens if they turn our refrigerators off
00:45:59.100 to defrost and we lose all the frozen
00:46:01.320 and refrigerated foods in a single day in America? 0.59
00:46:03.880 They'll just fake all the personal refrigerators.
00:46:06.100 Then what?
00:46:06.660 On the power grid.
00:46:07.300 They'll just take down the power grid
00:46:08.380 as a cyber attack false flag.
00:46:11.120 Blame it on like China's AI software or something,
00:46:14.820 but take down the power grid.
00:46:16.660 The military bases are being told to have 90 days, but the people will just be screwed.
00:46:22.480 Like you said, the refrigerators and freezers will all fail except for those very few people that have solar systems or energy backup systems, which is a very tiny number.
00:46:33.060 And overall, the people are just going to end up losing their food.
00:46:36.820 And then you hear people, even Elon Musk, talking about, well, we're going to have universal high income.
00:46:42.440 okay but you can print dollars but you can't print food man you can't print calories you know
00:46:50.720 so it doesn't you you can throw dollars all over the place even trump's like five thousand dollars
00:46:54.940 you know if the gop wins the election that doesn't create sulfur man it doesn't create
00:46:59.940 food it doesn't grow more potatoes like you can flood the country with dollars people can still
00:47:05.620 freaking starve flooded with dollars you know hyperinflation i mean weimar germany wheelbarrows
00:47:12.420 of dollars to get a loaf of bread i mean i'm not saying that we're there yet but we're moving in
00:47:17.200 that direction you know what i mean david unfortunately i do and you have been anybody
00:47:24.480 listening out here thank you so much for spending your valuable time listening to this because i
00:47:27.860 hope you can then share it with somebody else close to you in the next day or two and start
00:47:32.640 to get a plan together for you and your family or your friends or whoever you're closest to that's
00:47:37.440 around and you're very you know top five people you're always communicating with or being with
00:47:41.880 because it's going to take something like this in a resilient form to be able to get together
00:47:47.140 with a local, you know, click or group of your own peers. And then also people they might know
00:47:53.000 before long, you got 20, 25 people being able to do something together versus just one or two over
00:47:58.500 here. Time is short on this. I don't know how short it is exactly. I can't give you a date or
00:48:04.140 a time, but things are evolving much more rapidly of the turnoff of our food supply, not only
00:48:10.700 locally here in america with the destruction of our you know freezers and the processing facilities
00:48:16.780 but then overseas and you know we got all these online hacks that are you know devastating our
00:48:21.800 food supply around the world it's just going on and on and on everywhere at the same time
00:48:27.240 overwhelming we're about to wrap up the show give us your website again please
00:48:30.900 civilizationcycle.com and the adapt 2030 channel on youtube and also the civilization cycle podcast
00:48:38.740 anywhere podcast or hosted across the net okay great i i love your videos david and you know
00:48:45.620 it's been a while since we have talked but i'm really glad thank you for taking the time
00:48:49.660 to join us here today uh i'm mike adams of course on x i'm health ranger if you want to follow my
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