00:01:47.440We do have some blood on Charlie that you can see here, but you know what I noticed right here, Alex?
00:01:52.380Nobody's got their hands clamping that artery closed.
00:01:56.140Even if Charlie didn't get let's say he didn't get shot in the spine and this was a pass through, they would he would have bled out and died.
00:02:03.520There's no trauma medicine being applied here at all.
00:02:05.940And as you watch this, as they pick him up and move, nobody's maintaining pressure on this wound.
00:02:11.320So they would have let him die even if he could have been saved.
00:02:14.660See this? They get up underneath his arms.
00:02:16.940No one is holding pressure on that gunshot wound to the neck.
00:02:20.520One thing that was brought to my attention today was that if he is not bleeding right there, where you would see it on the cement, then that would mean he had bled out on the grass, which would mean that their pants would be absolutely covered in blood, and there is none.
00:02:37.660When I think about the fourth turning, and I think what's actually going to drive the new look for society in the next 10 years, you have to look at what's coming in AI and how that plays into all of this.0.55
00:02:48.480We have old world strategic thinking, grand chessboard, British Empire crap with all these 80 year olds that are really still in charge of decisions.
00:02:59.100That's who's in charge. Running up against all these other changes and not thinking multilevels above it because all they know is the old game.0.84
00:03:06.700That is a very explosive situation. Well, the old world model is the biggest problem with modern warfare.
00:03:12.100Let me give you this perspective from the military side of things.
00:03:45.840Their tallest is 18,000 feet, average 5,000.
00:03:49.660So realistically, for the viewers in the context here on the east side,
00:03:53.080you have the border, which is Afghanistan.
00:03:54.940You have Harat right there, which you can see.
00:03:56.580There's this tiny valley that you can potentially bring your tanks into.0.90
00:04:00.680The problem here is we have to retake Afghanistan.
00:04:03.340You've got to take Kandahar Air Base back,0.78
00:04:05.540which is to the east of what we're looking at, first.
00:04:08.460And that's shooting fish in a barrel. Isn't it shooting fish in a barrel to go into that Death Valley?
00:04:13.560Yeah, of course. Of course. What do you think how you're not?
00:04:16.740So my point is, you're probably not even going to be able to drive, you know, because the second a convoy, we dealt with this in Afghanistan, Iraq, you blow up a few trucks.
00:04:25.920Nobody's moving forward. This moon dust, too, as well. It's not like you can off road these vehicles through dust.
00:04:31.820Right. So all they have to do is, much like Russia, you know, destroy their own infrastructure as you're trying to come in there.0.96
00:04:38.200You're not going to drive in. So then you have to do some type of aerial insertion campaign.0.86
00:04:42.820And what are you going to do? Dump the 82nd Airborne in there and then what?
00:04:46.120Take some ground and then eat ballistic missiles and drone strikes.
00:04:49.280I mean, it's going to be there's nowhere to hide either. It's not the jungle.
00:04:53.080So the idea that we're just going to march in there somehow and take this.
00:04:57.240No. And not only that, even if you do, you still have the MOSIAC project here with 32 different provinces, all with their own militias.
00:05:04.420It'd be like trying to invade the United States.
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00:07:22.080All right, Jesse on fire, or Jesse Merrill and Nate Karnakia of Valhalla VFT
00:07:44.140are with us for the next hour and 51 minutes.
00:07:48.320And I wanted to get them on the last few weeks, but now they're ready to come on.
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00:08:02.100The vice president and the secretary of state brought them because he got it last week and Trump reportedly didn't even look at it and said,
00:08:09.780looks like the war will last into 2029 if we think Iran can fall.
00:10:06.980I mean, yeah, we got three. Those are the three big ones right now, right? Like Iran. And it's so funny. I mean, how long ago was I on your show, Alex? You know, when I was debating Gary, where I literally said that this was going to last for, you know, who knows how long, protracted, 0% chance. What were we told? It was going to be a two-week excursion.
00:10:28.200I think you were on like two weeks after it started, yeah.
00:11:18.720Like we were retaking areas that we had given up four times before that Green Berets before me had taken and then given back and taken and given back.
00:11:41.200And of course, I've been telling people that there is a zero percent chance that this war ends while Donald Trump is president.
00:11:48.720So for everybody who thinks 20, I don't know when 2020, I saw you three months ago say that, you know, you said it's not ending while he's president.
00:11:55.560Why did you say that? Well, because, I mean, obviously he's so close to Israel and we all know if you know this, what Israel wants so bad.
00:12:04.100And we talked, I actually talked about this with Joe Kent on my show a couple of days ago.
00:12:08.440They don't care about regime change in Iran. They don't care about bringing in Raza Pevlavi and giving the Iranians the country back.
00:12:16.200they don't care about that. They care about destabilizing the country and turning it into1.00
00:12:20.380chaos. That's why the very first thing we did was kill the Ayatollah, right? That way we had to0.99
00:12:25.480push forward the Mosaic strategy that they have to where now all of a sudden it turns into 31-ish0.98
00:12:30.480different provinces, all with a different leader, and you can't negotiate with anybody. We can't0.95
00:12:34.340get out of this, even if we wanted to, because we don't even know who to talk to anymore. And you
00:12:40.160have the difference between the Revolutionary Guard, you have the political establishment,
00:12:43.920They want different things. So and it's just expanding, right? You got Saudi Arabia talking
00:12:49.420about wanting to end the war. You had Ukraine bombing Iranian ships a couple of weeks ago.
00:12:54.480So this is the spiderweb that is basically the World War Three spiderweb. I mean, I think we
00:12:59.200could probably look back 10 years from now and be like, wow, this potentially was that moment or
00:13:04.260we're in that start of what would be considered World War Three because we have like 10, 15
00:13:08.900different countries involved now so how do you untangle that spiderweb i love when i was in that
00:13:14.320debate last week all the neocons are like you're insane it's not the story of a new world war
00:13:18.740meanwhile that's right you were just with joe yeah all the think tanks are saying this is the
00:13:23.420beginning of a new world war yeah i mean you know one thing that i hadn't thought about one thing i
00:13:29.400hadn't thought about that nate just said too is when you keep on knocking off the leaders no matter
00:13:35.080what organizational structure was in place before it does ensure that each time you do that they're
00:13:43.100going to have less like control over the large-scale country which makes it nearly impossible to end
00:13:49.240the conflict yeah like every leader that you knock off it makes it less likely you're going to be able
00:13:52.640to end the conflict i haven't even really thought about it like that but israel knew that that's
00:13:55.760why they advised trump to do it yeah he's dead on but that's what we do every time right this is
00:14:02.540what we did in Afghanistan initially when we put in Karzai. This is what we did when we removed
00:14:06.780Saddam. When we removed Gaddafi, we just removed Assad from Syria and put al-Jelani, the former0.99
00:14:12.700leader of al-Qaeda, in place. So we do this on purpose because it destabilizes these countries.0.77
00:14:18.120That's all they want. They don't care about functioning governments because if you can
00:14:21.820destabilize all of the hegemonic powers in the region, which used to be Saddam Hussein,0.67
00:14:27.200and Iran, then Israel gets to be the undisputed hegemonic superpower of the region. This is what0.89
00:14:31.960it's all about. So for people who think like, oh, yeah, you know, we just got to get through the
00:14:36.740midterms because that's what Trump's promising now. Right. The war is going to end right after
00:14:40.600the midterms. OK. And gas prices are coming down. It's never going to happen because strategically
00:14:45.840that's not what they want. They've been trying to get this across the goal line since 1996.
00:14:51.160Alex, I'm sure you've covered the clean break strategy multiple times. Yeah. Written by a
00:14:56.240little pal, Benjamin and Yeo. Yeah. And then he brought it before Congress in 2002 and said,
00:15:01.640this is the model this is what we want to do we need to overthrow the governments of these seven
00:15:05.120countries and iran is the last one so this this is a 30-year plan that they're trying to get across
00:15:11.080the goal line while donald trump's still in office so don't think for a second that there's
00:15:14.960any incentive for our government and now i want to ask you about this and jesse now they're moving
00:15:21.140on after the takedown seven countries that uh wesley clark exposed we have the documents they
00:15:26.860admit now they're moving on to turkey and egypt even bigger which they intend to drag us into but
00:15:31.980here's a clip of trump uh saying oh no they'll collapse after the midterms after over 50 times
00:15:37.380he says they're defeated there's been regime change we've won they have no missiles just
00:15:42.440lie after lie and then my other question to you after that is does is trump conned or does he
00:15:47.780know he slept walk us into this and is he lying and roping a dope which it's academic why does
00:15:54.060even matter. But here's Trump. Oh, I think the war is going to end immediately after the election.
00:16:00.560I think the war will end immediately after the election because they can't hold out any longer.
00:16:08.000They're desperate to try and affect the election so that we can get a nice, weak group of people0.78
00:16:14.020in there and leave them alone and let them have their nuclear weapon. All they want is a nuclear0.82
00:16:19.680weapon and if they had a nuclear weapon the whole world is in deep trouble but at the UFC at his
00:16:25.90080th birthday months and months ago he said it's over they're defeated that's just one of many so
00:16:31.220so uh Jesse on fire what's your take on this and then do you think Trump knows it's a con game or
00:16:37.240is he is he conned by Netanyahu maybe he's in on it I think I would answer that question by
00:16:43.140posing this is there one person who will stand on the fact that they believe that that is an
00:16:52.600accurate statement just like one person who's a commentator who relies on people listening to the
00:16:56.800things that they say and then taking their opinion seriously is there someone who will go i think he's
00:17:01.680right about that i think the second that the midterms are over the entire thing's going to end
00:17:05.800we're going to get the straight up removes open everything that we've been trying to do and have
00:17:09.040not been able to do thus far you know he threatened to end their civilization that didn't
00:17:13.500work however when the american midterms end boom it's going to be good to go like someone stand on
00:17:20.560that just one person just say that that's they believe that and then everyone who aligns with
00:17:25.100that just know they're either lying or borderline iq level that you have to wonder how they are able
00:17:32.840to walk out the door make it to their car without you know something bad happening it's absurd
00:17:37.200ludicrous i agree you can see it's cold-blooded him sitting around going well let's just take it
00:17:41.500off the table let's just say it's over now after he's lied about the strait being open dozens of
00:17:46.880times said the war is over dozens of times said we've decapitated all of this no one's buying it
00:17:52.160has no credibility the question is is whether or not see like the way i mean i have no idea i i'm
00:17:59.660easy to get to say how would i possibly know what's going on here or there and i think it is
00:18:04.460impossible for me to even feel confident saying whether or not he knew or wants this thing to
00:18:12.080continue i think he probably wants out desperately and i think he probably did believe that it was
00:18:17.160going to be a protracted short uh conflict and he's just trapped and we are trapped because
00:18:22.260the situation's untenable the straight has to get open and how are you going to open it if you've
00:18:26.760already done what we've done and it's still closed yeah well i ask the question rhetorically
00:18:30.580I don't want you to finish and then go to Kronaki here via Valhalla.
00:18:35.140Tucker was very close to him until a couple weeks into the war,
00:18:38.020and Tucker just screamed at him and said,1.00
00:18:39.000you're an effing idiot, Netanyahu hates you, blah, blah.1.00
00:18:41.040I was at his house and stuff while he was having arguments with Trump,1.00
00:19:14.260Yeah, I think that he I don't I don't support politicians making things up or lying.
00:19:20.500But there is a certain level of people in the institutional power positions are going to make it appear that they're in control.
00:19:30.580I talked about this with Chris Paihota, a bunch about the FBI, where if they don't know something, then in leadership, the correct answer is to make it seem like they know.
00:19:38.380But they're choosing not to tell you because that maintains the kind of faith in the institution.
00:19:45.500And I think that that's very likely what is happening here at this point, because what what are his what are his options?
00:19:51.240I mean, what's he going to say? He's like, look, we could nuke him. I know you don't want us to nuke him. Right.
00:19:54.800If we I mean, like, you know what I mean? It's like if he actually goes through what the options are, there are no good options.
00:20:00.020Nate and I had this conversation literally maybe six days after they closed
00:20:05.020the straight. I remember, I will never forget that.
00:20:06.640We got on the phone and I'm like, this is checkmate, right? He's like,
00:20:08.720checkmate. That was what, six, seven months ago.
00:20:12.020Yeah. So, so the question of both of you first to Nate, what is the,
00:20:16.140is there any off ramp? The Iranians hold the cards now.1.00
00:20:18.860So I think the cards are taken away.1.00
00:20:20.940We're already pulling back out of our bases, which is one of their demands.
00:20:24.080So now Trump has to change the story every few weeks to act like we're
00:20:27.020winning. I think as Joe Kent said months ago,
00:20:28.940just give him an off ramp, act like we won. If we pull out and then pressures on Iran to stop
00:20:34.120closing the strait and people say, oh, you're cutting and running. We're not cutting and
00:20:37.940running. We didn't start this fight. We didn't want this. So now that we're totally vindicated,
00:20:41.780what do you want to say to all the people that are still calling us Qatari agents?
00:20:47.060Well, first of all, yeah, I've been to Qatar multiple times. You know why? Because Qatar
00:20:51.960was actually the country that facilitated all of the military, U.S. military in and out of their
00:20:57.800country for us to fly in and out of Afghanistan and Iraq for 20 years so that's like I always
00:21:02.860think that's a hilarious one either too is like that's actually been one of the uh not that you
00:21:06.980know it's hilarious we're Qatari agents but that's what they're giving Trump a 500 million
00:21:11.820dollar plane our main base is there and then those of us that are against the war we're Qatari agents
00:21:16.700with no evidence right but but with the off-ramp okay and uh yeah I've been saying this since the
00:21:22.100first week of the war the way out of this is there's one way out which is yeah America leaves
00:21:49.280We don't need 50,000 troops in Germany.
00:21:51.620And what you do is you reframe it and say, we're going to focus on our hemisphere of the world.0.95
00:21:56.040We're going to bring the troops home. We're going to protect our hemisphere. And if you F with us in our hemisphere, we will glass lot you. And you then you get up and leave. And yes, at that point, does what does Iran do? They control the straight. But, you know, they're also like you just said, Alex, incentivized to actually open up to world commerce, because if they don't, then they're the bad guy right now on the world stage.
00:22:21.520America and Israel is the bad guy. We're the ones that have destroyed the global economy.0.81
00:22:25.920So if we get out, we just leave, we say, hey, it's over. And you can do this. And we
00:22:31.020completed all our strategic goals, right? We destroyed their Navy and Army and aircraft
00:22:37.120defenses, whatever you want to say. And then you just fucking leave and you focus on our hemisphere.0.99
00:22:42.280So there is a way to do it. But again, Alex, it goes against the interest of Israel. If we do that,0.98
00:22:49.980If we pull all of our bases out of the Middle East, all of their protection is gone.
00:22:54.720They don't want to let that happen.0.72
00:22:56.360So that's the issue we're going to see is the second we try to do that, what they're going to do is just ramp up their bombing campaigns on Lebanon and Gaza and the West Bank to force Iran to then keep the straight closed to keep us entangled in this.0.58
00:23:19.280So what is your prediction of what Trump will do?
00:23:22.040I think he's going to pig-headedly just continue it on and fry the whole economy and just, I think that's where we're going.
00:23:30.020100%. I agree with you. That's my prediction on it.
00:23:32.340Until he's out of office, I don't see anything changing.
00:23:34.940It's just the same thing, this bombing campaign quagmire, maybe if it gets extreme enough, he tries, you know,
00:23:41.940we get a false flag or something that that way, you know, an attack on the home front.
00:23:45.040So that way we can actually launch a full-scale ground invasion.
00:23:47.300That's like worst possible scenario, I think. But to your point, Alex, yeah, we're not we're not doing the strategy that me, you and Joe Kent and Jesse are talking about where we, you know, look at this thing realistically.
00:23:58.420I think that's what we need to do right now. Sometimes you have to in war, you look at things realistically and go, OK, we got our dicks caught in a bear trap here.
00:24:07.200And if the only way out is, you know, either through, which it's not, which is a mass invasion, well, then you got to just bite the bullet and, you know, fucking leave.0.99
00:24:17.360We can leave. We can do that. But again, that also is a huge hit to Donald Trump's ego.0.99
00:24:22.540Right. And I think ego is what us what got us into this.
00:24:25.700I totally agree. But his process of changing the subject every week isn't working.
00:24:30.760So he he needs to understand he's already been discredited.
00:24:33.680the only way is to declare victory and then pull out and like you said hand the economic disaster0.99
00:24:39.060to iran that could be spun and we're actually sickeningly here giving his evil ass good advice0.96
00:24:44.980because we care about the country but we know he's not going to listen right yeah i'm with you yeah0.94
00:24:50.900i just i just think that i just think that to your point about how you know how our teammates
00:24:57.100over there are going to react they are not going to allow us to pull back regardless there for
00:25:05.080whatever reason there's no one can pull the string and say you guys are forbidden from bombing allies
00:25:11.260of the country that we are in a desperate negotiation with and and just for some reason
00:25:17.480they can not do that and the thing that really you know the the part of this that bothers me the most
00:25:22.820is that my politics literally center solely around the the collective citizenry of this country you
00:25:30.540know people go overseas they die but you're looking at a wide it's right in front of everyone
00:25:37.780everybody goes to the gas station it's getting really out of control now i was just in california
00:25:42.060this last weekend for labor day and you're looking you're like 670 for gasoline eight
00:25:48.760for diesel and in texas you're looking at six seven dollar diesel and people do not understand
00:25:56.020that this is something that is going to crush like the future like it's already very challenging for
00:26:02.320the vast majority of people to be able to deal with that but what's going to happen is this right
00:26:07.000now is going to start hitting us way worse very very soon as food production costs go up and
00:26:12.440shipping all this stuff like this comes down the line it's gonna get much worse and the you know
00:26:16.940And while the three of us are in a position where we can probably absorb this level of price hike, the vast majority of people can't.
00:26:27.520And so it's like, how do people deal with this?
00:26:31.440They're going to just have to reduce the amount of food that they buy, be much more selective about when they drive.
00:27:05.380They're down over 12% in retail sales.
00:27:07.560So you say, I'll tell you, we feel it.
00:27:09.640Our audience stays the same and grows.
00:27:11.520You can see retail is going like this.
00:27:13.420that is the real pulse of things and trump is just barreling forward with this and people feel the
00:27:19.780pain he says affordability is made up jesse i mean it's a it's made up for people that he hangs out
00:27:25.780with that's a great point that's a great point and maybe that's what it is is that you know like
00:27:31.820when you're a billionaire and your entire circle is all people that are worth hundreds of millions
00:27:35.700of dollars maybe maybe he doesn't see it i don't know or maybe he's you know not being shown this
00:27:41.040But when we come back from break, I live in a big farming and ranching community, and one of my buddies owns one of the biggest farming grow-ups here in Oregon.
00:27:49.600If you want to quote from what he texted me yesterday about what's happened to him for diesel prices once we come back, I think you guys will be interested.
00:28:43.740Tap water used to be safe to drink, but communist subversives in our government introduced fluoride into our nation's tap under the guise of dental health.
00:28:53.680When in reality, fluoride lowers your IQ, calcifies your pineal gland, and makes you susceptible to anti-capitalist mind viruses.
00:29:03.780So you're telling me I'm a sap if I drink tap?
00:33:18.440when I think about the fourth turning,
00:33:19.600And I think what's actually going to drive the new look for society in the next 10 years, you have to look at what's coming in AI and how that plays into all of this.
00:33:29.580I don't know how much of that is a part of the thinking as it relates to this particular conflict, because I think this is just kind of old school, you know, control, energy, natural resources and, you know, distribution of which.
00:33:41.800Which, if there has ever been a lesson for the world on how important control of distribution of these resources actually is, this straighter her moves thing is like, if you can't see it now, you'll never understand.
00:33:55.640And as it relates to the future of the world and how we have these reports of super intelligence coming within the next few years, you have this guy who came out yesterday who says that there are experts who think that there's better than 10% chance that AI will eradicate humanity by 2030.
00:34:12.340that said just for the record before anybody you know i put out a video about it this morning
00:34:16.160a lot of people responded and pointed out that there's a new bill uh in congress to give uh the
00:34:22.680u.s government a kill switch for ai and that you know given that bill gates was directly uh
00:34:29.020involved in the initial story which this last one piled on top of i realized i'm like oh this is
00:34:34.480probably great reset stuff you know uh you know oh by 2030 you say is there any other i can't
00:34:40.920remember i'll own nothing and be happy about it 2030 but oh everybody's gonna die within three
00:34:45.520years okay cool i wonder if those things are connected but nonetheless i just think that
00:34:48.900there's no way to know where this is all going to go and i feel very out of control and i don't feel
00:34:56.540like i have any ability to influence anything that's going to matter because i don't think
00:35:00.560that who we elect is going to make a huge difference in any of it it's kind of like a
00:35:04.140doom and gloom way of looking at it but i also hope that in the event that ai is what the optimists
00:35:08.940think it would be there is a world where we live in a much better world in 10 years but i think the
00:35:14.420risks are you know i don't know you'd have to very very astute because it turns out this
00:35:20.540anthropic whistleblower about into the world kill us all is a george soros bill gates extinction
00:35:26.760rebellion cultist it doesn't mean we shouldn't fear it they want to create fear and bill gates
00:35:30.920creating fear so governments get control have a centralized ai when all the experts agree the
00:35:35.560answer is decentralized ai so that isn't one central that's one that could really crash
00:35:39.680everything really take control you want diversification of power separation of powers
00:35:45.980i can't hear him yeah unmute yourself it's okay go ahead my bad guys so actually you actually
00:35:55.180kind of took my my point of that uh right out of my mouth what i was going to say is do we really
00:35:59.620want the U.S. government to be the arbiter of morality on things like AI and weapon systems.
00:36:06.880They haven't really demonstrated that they're the best choice. Typically, you want to actually,
00:36:11.880to Alex's point, diversify that across the civilian sector. That way, you don't have the
00:36:16.780government be the all-seeing eye, Sauron superpower that gets to shut things off or
00:36:22.060turn things on. Me, personally, as a guy who's not a big government guy, I'm not a fan of that.
00:36:26.200But I will say this, you know, Jesse mentioned there's no way to know what the future looks like.
00:36:32.140Now, while I agree with that, I'd also push back and say foreign policy is complicated as it seems a lot of times is not that complicated.
00:36:39.480Sometimes just common sense rationale being pragmatic makes sense.0.98
00:36:42.680And what I mean by that is while the United States continues to spend trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars bombing brown people in the Middle East,0.75
00:36:50.720China for the last 30 years has invested all of their money into themselves domestically.0.69
00:36:55.580that is going to continue. So if you don't see a current track record of the United States's
00:37:01.060actions right now, if you don't see China being the world's superpower within 10, 20 years based
00:37:06.180off of trajectory, just based off of investment, right? We invest all of our money into war. They0.85
00:37:13.320invest all their money into their own country. And if you don't think the lanes of those things
00:37:18.120are eventually going to converge and they're not going to overtake us, of course they are.
00:37:21.380and look at manufacturing we we have we can't even manufacture our own munitions like we have0.98
00:37:26.440like eight days we've we've done the war games with this between us and china full-scale war
00:37:30.480we have like eight days of munitions and then we can't backfill them so yeah i would say unless0.74
00:37:36.600the united states and we don't you know get a culture change here where we stop again spending0.96
00:37:41.140trillions of dollars on shit that evaporates then we're cooked in the long run and and i hate to say0.70
00:37:46.680that because i love you know i totally agree and i want you to elaborate i want to go back to jesse0.99
00:37:49.760you made so many points here. The most astute point in the last 40 minutes that you got on is
00:37:54.560this. We have old world strategic thinking, grand chessboard, British empire crap with all these0.94
00:38:03.30080-year-olds that are really still in charge of decisions. That's who's in charge. Running up0.94
00:38:08.460against all these other changes and not thinking multi-levels above it because all they know is
00:38:12.660the old game. That is a very explosive situation. And then you have the attempt to centralize,
00:38:19.660You know, it came out that Biden sent out the CIA and others to tell other companies, even big tech companies, you're not allowed to look at AI.
00:38:25.440If you want to contribute to our central AI, we're going to act like Microsoft and Amazon and Google all have AIs.
00:38:34.500This leaked a few years ago, but really it's one AI.0.95
00:38:38.420But the problem is nothing about the Chinese or everybody else that's got their own.0.95
00:38:42.240So they want one ring to rule them all and in the darkness behind them.0.95
00:38:46.080Obviously, if you're not going to stop this, the answers have a bunch of rings of power.
00:38:48.900So now Sauron doesn't have the only one. And so there we are. But how does this old world model deal with this collision we're about to enter into?
00:38:59.080Nate, and then I want to get Jesse's take on that.
00:39:01.620Well, the old world model is the biggest problem with modern warfare.
00:39:05.020Let me give you this perspective from the military side of things. This is what we do.
00:39:10.800We're still in the World War II era of fighting a war. You see it in Iran.1.00
00:39:14.560We're just going to drop thousands of bombs on anything with, you know, four corners, right?0.99
00:39:29.580And so we haven't even, and then we're fighting a country that is completely fighting back in an asymmetric and unconventional way.
00:39:36.500And we're still just haven't seemed to put two and two together.
00:39:39.180To your point, though, Alex, it's because we have 80-year-olds in charge of decision-making when it comes to those things.
00:39:44.120So we can't even figure out how to fight a war that's not in, you know, an 80 year old version to do it when the entire world has moved forward into asymmetric and unconventional warfare, which we as Green Berets focus on.
00:39:56.120But again, it just shows and you would think just the way the United States was founded, the Revolutionary War.
00:40:01.580How do we win that through asymmetric?
00:40:03.280Because King George III didn't figure it out just like we're doing.
00:40:06.360And you really and this is why very, very few times in history and invading force has ever been able to actually long scale occupy another nation.
00:40:15.940It's just not really a thing. And we continue to just think we can do it.
00:40:19.340To your point, Alex, in this British imperialism style of having one hundred and eighty one military bases all over the world and all this stuff.
00:40:27.240And it's just it's a new world going forward and it's not working and it's bankrupting us.
00:40:31.380And in the long term, we're not going to be the economic superpower anymore if we don't change course.0.90
00:40:35.880I don't even want to tell Israel how to win this.0.67
00:40:40.800If they just dumped out machine guns and hand grenades all over the country, it would create such an unrest.
00:40:45.680But still, the militants would probably stay in charge.
00:40:47.160I don't see, when you have a force, resistance is victory, that has a culture that gets stronger when you attack it,
00:40:53.920the only way to do it is nuke the whole thing.1.00
00:40:55.880Then there's a radiation cloud the whole world turns against as the stock market crashes for all these idiots like Mark Levin saying nuke them.1.00
00:48:21.740Let's like, you know, at least keep humans around as a museum piece.
00:48:25.640I mean, I hope we do have, you know, someone like Elon who is on the side of humanity going forward, because if we don't, Alex, we're definitely host.
00:48:35.060Right. If we don't have a power figure like Elon, who is trying to now, I don't know if he is or not, but is trying to have that type of, you know, because to Jesse's point, like you could actually have life in the world and humanity get way, way better if you did this correctly and you leverage it correctly.
00:48:51.360But humanity, we have not shown that elites and humanity over the last 6,000 years give a shit about the peasants.
00:48:59.760So I don't see why we're thinking that all of a sudden the globalists are going to have our best interest in heart once they can replace us all.0.88
00:49:07.260Nate Karnakia of Valhalla VFT, I 1 trillion percent agree with you.
00:49:10.900Because if you go back to before he died, I've read all of Brzezinski's books.
00:49:14.140He gave a speech like 15 years ago to the CFR in Canada.
00:49:16.960He said, it used to be easier to brainwash a million people.0.99
00:49:19.800Now it's just easier to kill them.0.99
00:49:20.800we just got to get rid of people so the main consensus of the elite let's just say elon's0.99
00:49:25.000an outlier of the sake of argument but you know god we hope he's real their plan is predatory and
00:49:31.320is it is extinctionist and so that is a fact baseline we have to deal with yeah i think the
00:49:38.880way that i go ahead jesse sorry the way that i do this is like the is because of the the sources of
00:49:44.260the uh you know you'll own nothing by 2030 like i see elon in this story as like our only hope
00:49:51.780because i know what's on the other side of elon and we know that him and bill gates are kind of
00:49:56.180adversarial and he's the one who purchased twitter and unlocked it they had a vice grip on what
00:50:02.640anyone could say globally we were finished elon swooped in and blocked them in the fake uh take
00:50:09.040over of info wars which by the way they never got big announcements coming soon wait to hear this
00:50:12.480not at liberty yet few weeks 11 and his lawyers came with a whole team like 20 lawyers and ran0.69
00:50:18.320it up their ass blocked all of them that was elon did that people oh god you're on his payroll now0.95
00:50:22.900i didn't talk to him i don't know what he's doing i'm just sitting here about to blow up the death0.99
00:50:26.760star here comes the millennium falcon i don't know how i'm supposed to get mad at him so what do you
00:50:30.140think of that yeah yeah i just i mean from from my perspective it's like and also the story that
00:50:35.860i've heard about open ai and and you know elon founds open ai his his purpose at least from what
00:50:42.120i've read was to keep us from getting into an arms race with ai and protect humanity and make
00:50:47.120it non-profit and all of that and then uh you know his story sam altman decides definitely evil he's
00:50:53.080definitely bad oh yeah and that's so i mean i don't know i mean if i have to have faith in
00:50:59.020someone elon is the one guy where i'm like god i hope that i'm right about this guy and he is
00:51:04.260because someone needs to be on the side of let's not eradicate humanity because he's the one that's
00:51:09.560telling everybody look we're gonna have a population crash you have to have kids everybody
00:51:13.060needs to have kids do the exact opposite of what they're trying to tell you all the eu people don't
00:51:17.280have kids everything he's put his i'm not saying he's perfect we got to watch him but we hope he's
00:51:21.200there nate kornakia no i agree i agree and he has done things uh the only reason we probably even
00:51:28.500have free speech in america at all right now is as crazy as it sounds the fact that he bought twitter
00:51:33.660i mean we all saw what was going to happen we saw what was going on in social media i mean
00:51:38.300pretty much just banned i mean i've got multiple buddies i mean uh that you know i got on youtube
00:51:44.860after all this happened because i retired only a few years ago but they all demonetize all their
00:51:49.760channels were deleted you know during the covet era so trump wouldn't have won without him and
00:51:53.920he was the first to nuke trump on epstein four months in a lot of credibility there my concern
00:51:59.580is though is he's now pivoted back to sort of the pro-trump he's talking about oh we got to
00:52:04.680donate $200 million to Republicans and all this stuff.
00:52:46.760He has done the opposite of everything he's run on.
00:52:50.200Who's waking up right now being like, hey, going into the midterms right now.
00:52:54.740We all know people vote based off down ballot in the midterms based off the performance of the president.
00:53:00.460And the dude's got a 30 percent approval rating. He's another foreign war gas.0.83
00:53:05.400We just hit record high gas prices on Monday. You know, go down the list of things that promises made promises unkept.0.99
00:53:12.000Who what independent because I'm independent. Jesse's an independent is walking into the midterms going.
00:53:17.260I want more of this. Nobody. So you're going to hand it over to the Democrats and most likely the most radical of the Democrats, because that's the way the pendulum works.0.58
00:53:25.840No, I totally agree saying about Republicans for this is why I've been I rail so hard on Trump as a conservative is it's like, why can't if you're not going to have fucking accountability for your own party when you're destroying everything, then don't get mad when the radical left takes over because it's going to happen.
00:53:40.880And you're the reason why. No, I totally agree. The Republican Party, you're the reason why they're going to win.0.74
00:53:45.740And then we've got these weird apologists that just are super unpopular and act like we're losing when we wanted Trump to succeed.
00:53:52.860When we come back, I want to get into all the other political issues, domestic stuff, the huge Charlie Kirk developments, the shooter saying not guilty.
00:58:27.840And we replaced the Taliban with the Taliban.
00:58:30.460And that's a country geographically very much like Iran, which is important, right?0.81
00:58:35.180Because Afghanistan is called the graveyard of empires for a reason, because how many0.53
00:58:39.260empires have tried to invade Afghanistan and have failed over the last-0.92
00:58:43.180Both countries are built like Mordor.0.97
00:58:45.440Exactly. And that's a big part of it. And but Afghanistan, my point with this is that's a tribal nation. Don't even have a functioning government. Never have. And we weren't the entire might of the U.S. military was not able to topple the Taliban and install any tour, any type of actual functioning government.
00:59:01.100So now you look at Iran. And I mean, as you can see here, this is a great picture. You're not coming in from the West, from Iraq. It's not going to happen. You can't get over those mountains. Some of those mountains are too tall to even fly helicopters over there. So you have to.
00:59:12.980Their tallest is 18,000 feet, average 5,000.
00:59:16.980So realistically, for the viewers in the context here on the east side, you have the border, which is Afghanistan.
00:59:22.040You have Herat right there, which you can see there's this tiny valley that you can potentially bring your tanks into.0.60
00:59:28.000The problem here is we have to retake Afghanistan.0.72
00:59:30.660You've got to take Kandahar Air Base back, which is to the east of what we're looking at, first.0.91
00:59:42.360What do you think how you're not? So my point is, you're probably not even going to be able to drive, you know, because the second a convoy, we dealt with this in Afghanistan, Iraq, you blow up a few trucks.
00:59:53.240Nobody's moving forward. This moon dust, too, as well. It's not like you can off-road these vehicles through dust. Right.
00:59:59.560So all they have to do is, much like Russia, you know, destroy their own infrastructure as you're trying to come in there.0.97
01:00:05.540You're not going to drive in. So then you have to do some type of aerial insertion campaign.0.86
01:00:10.140And what are you going to do? Dump the 82nd Airborne in there and then what?
01:00:13.460Take some ground and then eat ballistic missiles and drone strikes.
01:00:16.600I mean, it's going to be there's nowhere to hide either. It's not the jungle.
01:00:20.380So the idea that we're just going to march in there somehow and take this.
01:00:24.560No. And not only that, even if you do, you still have the MOSIAC project here with 32 different provinces, all with their own militias.
01:00:31.580it'd be like trying to invade the united states and they've sworn not to give up even if the0.88
01:00:35.980mullah orders it well that's huge too alex people understand culturally and religiously we're not
01:00:40.600talking about sunni islam we're talking about shia islam very different they believe deeply
01:00:44.800in martyrdom because the ayatollah is the religious leader in shia islam right he's0.63
01:00:50.280appointed by god it's like killing the pope we basically killed the islamic pope and now we're0.83
01:00:55.480like oh hey no big deal they're just going to give up no of course not like that's not how any of0.93
01:01:00.040this works. So now you have a martyr system going on and they're never, ever going to give up.
01:01:04.220They're going to fight to the death. And so, yeah, if you want to just take, let's say you
01:01:07.700want to take Tehran, you're going to spend hundreds of thousands of men. Let's finish up
01:01:11.660back in 60, but recap that Vala VFT, Nate Krononky, and then let's get Jesse on fire's0.95
01:01:17.900take. And then we'll shift gears into the domestic issues. But this is so important because Trump
01:01:21.820is trying to pull out, but Iran holds the cards and won't. So he's getting ready. He's been0.93
01:01:26.800shopping ground invasion so if iran didn't control the shred of her moves for 30 percent of oil and
01:01:33.380much of earth minerals and helium and everything else that's used for microchips and fertilizer0.92
01:01:38.720came through you could just wall it off and starve to death like we did iraq but we funded them with
01:01:44.260the equivalent of like 300 billion dollars a day something like 40 billion back then in the 80s the
01:01:48.380iran iraq war over a million iranians died some estimates are like three million they kept it
01:01:52.940secret, 500,000 Iraqis with all of our satellites, our chemical weapons. We always hear Saddam,0.83
01:01:59.600gas, Kurds. Yeah, we gave them the weapons and they won. And now they've just gotten stronger0.97
01:02:06.800and stronger. So we took out their 85, 90-year-old leadership and put the guys that were 18, 25 years
01:02:12.040old, battlefield commanders who've been through all these wars in charge. And Israel knew that.0.62
01:02:17.340They said they wanted a quagmire, which shows the existential chutzpah of Israel with their NDAA, their attempt to take over the military and the Pentagon.
01:02:26.060You know, sitting there in that debate that finally aired last week with the neocons.
01:02:28.840And I'm like, Section 219 says fuse, integrate, live time from research at DARPA, right down to battlefield satellite telemetry.
01:02:36.180There's a special officer that can only report to the president and Congress once a year, is above all the other people, basically co-equal to the secretary of defense.
01:02:45.680uh that's not real and that's all they can say so i want to finish up with israel finish up with
01:02:51.480the ground invasion of iran nate karnocki was a green beret served a bunch over there jesse on
01:02:56.180fire has made all the predictions that have come true putting bookends on this nate finishing up
01:02:59.720kind of recapping some stages in care of that last five on the danger is trump at 80 with clearly i
01:03:06.120think some frontal lobe dementia behavior bad decisions he's a different guy now he has strongly
01:03:11.940been trying to float. I've confirmed this from my sources, but it's also been in the news
01:03:15.420that he wants a ground invasion. That's why he kicked out the real reason, the head of the
01:03:20.280secretary of the army, the head of the army, all these people saying, sir, we need hundreds of
01:03:25.020thousands of troops to take over the Strait of Hormuz. I mean, it's hundreds of square miles,
01:03:30.440multi-thousand foot sheer walls, 5,000, 6,000 foot mountains, pillbox full of artillery and
01:03:37.520low-tech stuff they haven't even used yet. Once you get in close, people don't know warfare,
01:03:41.940Now you're up against hundreds of thousands of troops with shoulder-fired rockets, RPGs, artillery, similar to what North Korea has aimed at Seoul.
01:03:51.820And, I mean, you couldn't come up, from my own military research, historically, a worse scenario in the Strait of Hormuz.
01:04:00.100Then you've got the whole coastline to deal with.
01:04:02.420I mean, we're talking about, to use a Star Trek analogy, the Koriachi Maru here, a basically impossible situation.
01:04:09.140Only, for the estimates I've seen, 100 or more high-powered hydrogen bombs, if we did
01:04:14.680kill, basically blow up every city, putting multiple nukes in to destroy everything below1.00
01:04:20.740ground, yes, if we exterminate the Iranians and basically kill 90% of them, we can win1.00
01:17:28.160I mean, the thing about the family is that TPUSA even now acknowledged that he did not, in fact, confess to his family.
01:17:38.820And they tried to say, they're like, well, we never, they're like, we never said that he confessed to his family. You know, people found clips. They definitely said it. And in this regard, it's kind of like, I mean, if they, if the guy never confessed to his family, then where did that story come from? Why did all the media run with it? And what, it's just another huge thing to add on to what seems to be this gigantic, you know, coordinated effort to make sure that this one guy goes down for this.
01:18:05.760and uh and i mean i let's let's talk about this but after this i want to talk about this new clip
01:18:10.800that uh that we found and uh and i showed it i've showed it to about six different people
01:18:16.380all experts who have all said the same thing and it's uh it's gonna be a very interesting
01:18:21.000conversation that did you send it to the crew i did but you can't show it on the channel or
01:18:26.100but i will send it's actually the most recent thing that i shared on x uh so they can go look
01:18:32.340i can't show we showed him getting a shot in the neck and blood spraying what is it like if you if
01:18:37.380you can show that so alex what it is you know the uh there's the famous video clip i've covered it a
01:18:42.340ton of where they're working on charlie and the hands are coming up you're not seeing blood it's
01:18:47.040a new angle of civilian in the crowd from up higher that can pretty much see everything you
01:18:52.660can see charlie you can see everything guys i'm gonna ask the crew do you have the clip because
01:18:56.720we play everything it's it's it's a huge deal of a clip it's the first time if you're gonna i'll
01:19:01.540just yeah and i'll just i'll just i love you guys but next time you come on you got to say hey here's
01:19:05.320the agenda i'm like what do you guys want to hit first you should have told so but look oh i told
01:19:09.280daria i told daria okay i know but yeah but basically like what what's what is shown in it
01:19:14.380is it's it's the security picking him up and then carrying him from the position that he was in and
01:19:19.920so what was it's very very clear it's it's the most recent thing that i shared on x and when
01:19:26.680when you look at it and you're trying to evaluate one of the things that there seems to be is a very
01:19:31.820big disparity between what expert military operators have told me is the expected amount
01:19:37.520of blood that would be on the people who are working on them on their hands on the ground
01:19:41.840on their shoes on their clothes there seemed to be like an overwhelming lack of that so in this
01:19:49.220in the clip you can see him getting picked up and you can see very clearly how much blood there is
01:19:56.060everywhere and i showed it to and nate i nate has seen it too but i just want to share what what
01:20:01.260just came out of this conversation i had literally right before we hopped on it was uh someone with
01:20:05.800an enormous amount of trauma experience overseas and i showed it to him and i said is it possible
01:20:12.020you know there's no there seems to be no blood dripping onto the concrete as they're carrying
01:20:16.220him over is that possible he said it's only possible if he has already bled out and i was
01:20:21.000like and if he's already bled out then you would expect to see it on their shoes he's like correct
01:20:25.020so i showed him a picture of their shoes past where that is in the in the footage there's
01:20:29.400absolutely no visible blood on their shoes and he's like can you see the bottom of their shoes
01:20:33.300and i'm like nope and then it hit me and i'd never thought of this before i'm like wait a minute
01:20:37.320they were on their knees he's like right i'm like so if he was bled out on their knees there would
01:20:42.800be blood all over their pants right and he's like correct so we looked at it none so i'm like so
01:20:48.160these two things shouldn't be able to be to happen at once right either he would still be bleeding
01:20:53.780all over the concrete everywhere or there would be blood all over their pants he's like right so
01:20:59.380if there's neither then there needs to be some kind of other explanation for why you guys are
01:21:03.980too polite i know you told my producers but they didn't really get to me on this and i know you're
01:21:07.500on youtube they don't allow it so if you need to kill your feet or black it out when we do this
01:21:11.060when we come back we're going to do this but and and gosh i wish we could do a whole hour on this
01:21:15.680you got to come back tomorrow if you have to but the point is at least we got 30 minutes we go to
01:21:19.060break and we got a huge deal what you're going to see uh yeah it's a huge deal what you're going
01:21:23.460to watch wow uh sorry so i yeah i'll just tell my i'll tell my live viewers just head over to uh
01:21:29.240head over to alex's ex because i'm gonna kill this i'll break it all down from a from a trauma
01:21:33.400medicine and an anatomical perspective of why this is it looks really really bad really bad0.68
01:21:39.020all right well then let's let's table this till we go to break in two minutes but let's go back
01:21:42.580just to he's not guilty and again i'm talking to the family like we're threatened we're scared
01:21:47.600can i say that well oh you know and then i've played a clip of them saying some of it i mean
01:21:53.460i'm taught i've talked to these people and i and i would get mad at not a candidate but they kind
01:21:57.860of focus on other stuff instead of like i'm talking to the family so reporters they say none of this
01:22:01.900is true 98 it's a lie we he didn't confess he didn't do it and now he said not guilty and how
01:22:08.040and they're saying oh we never said that i saw nate you played clips yesterday or maybe the day
01:22:11.820before i saw the clip yesterday them saying that no he confessed now they're saying we never said
01:22:16.560confessed so they've got egg on their face to infinity but but Alex here's the thing none of
01:22:22.620this is new Alex I was on do you remember this I was on your show remember we were debating this
01:22:27.580six months ago when they were saying uh no the family the family he confessed to the family he
01:22:33.800confessed to the family and what did I say on your show I said no he didn't they had a family friend
01:22:38.460who recognized Tyler because he was his boy scout troop leader or youth group troop leader that
01:22:43.900supposedly recognized him, contacted the family,
01:22:46.340went over there, and convinced Tyler to turn himself in
01:22:48.820so the SWAT team didn't come shoot him in the face.
01:22:50.500I said that on your show, what, six months ago?
01:34:21.140I mean, you better pray to God and you're in Mormon, Utah, and you get 12 hardcore religious fanatics in there who want to see him put to death no matter what.
01:34:29.580Because unless you've got some bombshells from the evidence we've seen, if you're going to try to tell me there's no reasonable doubt, then you're not being intellectually honest with us.
01:34:39.260I mean, I'll just say like it, you know, like I'm not 100 percent convinced of anything at all.
01:34:44.460If Tyler, I just like if Tyler Robinson did do this, if Tyler Robinson knew about it and someone that he knew did it like they can bury him under the jail for all I'm concerned.
01:34:54.020I agree. I'm not a Tyler Robin apologist.
01:39:50.820So maybe it is, but someone's got to explain to me why there's hardly any blood after a gunshot, a 30-06 gunshot wound that should have blown his head off to the neck.
01:39:59.760So bottom line, an aorta, gallons of blood comes up.
01:40:05.180Carotid artery shot, yeah, because it's one of the highest pressurized arteries in the human body because it's pumping to your brain, right?
01:40:13.160This is the most important thing in the body, so it's got the most blood being pumped to it on a regular basis.
01:40:18.740So, yeah, when you decompressize that, blood is going to – and for one, the blood doesn't even look right, okay?
01:40:23.880It's this weird, thick blood pouring out when typically you'd expect an arterial wound blood atomization, which is going to be a pink, frothy, misty blood, which we don't see there either.
01:40:35.060Yeah, there's all these anatomical things that don't make sense from this either.
01:40:39.000And so, again, I would love somebody to explain it to me, but this footage is not great when you're looking at it from a real world perspective.
01:47:31.700The behavior of the security detail during trauma medicine doesn't make sense.
01:47:36.260The weird hand signals, the weird hand signals.
01:47:38.940There's a thousand things that don't make sense.
01:47:41.080So for me, I'm going to say the same thing I've said from the very beginning.
01:47:43.860I want somebody to show me evidence that back up the claims the prosecution actually has, that a lone gunman with no assistance, 22-year-old kid whose hobbies are Magic the Gathering, somehow infiltrated, pulled this shot off from the roof with a rifle we've never seen yet, gets away, and again, 30-06, doesn't take half his head off, no exit wound.
01:48:06.340just please show me the evidence of any of this being possible so i can say good we found the
01:48:11.440suspect and it's time for him to be put away but they just doesn't seem like even now we've done
01:48:16.980the whole evidence hearings right we've seen the whole the whole evidence pre-trial nothing new
01:48:20.520so i don't know for me you got to show me something because at this point it just it looks
01:48:26.160like i don't know who's involved is he alive is he dead was it israel was it the left i don't know
01:48:32.100but it sure as shit isn't the official narrative that's where i'm at perfectly said it's the truth0.81
01:48:36.360that people ask well who did it then i don't know stop asking me i don't know look at look at look0.96
01:48:42.300at charlie's can you back up one frame i know look at charlie's shoes he's got on white shoes
01:48:47.280and he's shot in the carotid artery and he's got doesn't have a doesn't have a drop of blood on his
01:48:53.040white shoes what are we talking about here what are those shoes yeah if you're shot when you're
01:48:57.320standing up as we blood all over your legs and shoes look at that yes yes and he's got a little
01:49:02.400bit on his shirt that's it perfectly clean pants shoes none of them none of them have blood on
01:49:07.600their knees or pants and again you can go and look at all of them there's one guy in the black with
01:49:12.600the long black hair who's got a tiny little bit of blood on his arms and his stomach because he's
01:49:18.140the one holding uh charlie up underneath the arm where there's some of that blood other than that0.86
01:49:22.200look you can see there ain't no fucking blood on anybody well the consensus one weekend with0.92
01:49:26.840The special forces community, it won't come on, is that it was staged like a stunt event with squibs and that it's staged.0.97