00:00:13.420But what we can give you is more spying on Americans with warrantless surveillance.
00:00:16.800They will likely find a way to loop this ideology into either foreign money or a foreign ideology, which gives you the opportunity to give that nexus that says it's a FISA save.
00:00:26.460And they've obviously already looped in the signals intelligence part of it.
00:00:30.000And and encrypted apps signal, you know, using phones, all this kind of stuff.
00:00:40.880I mean, they're literally they're checkboxing all of what the FBI calls domestic violent extremism.0.99
00:00:46.500And none of these things are operational plots in reality.
00:00:48.760It's also interesting that they were going to meet in Fredericksburg, Virginia.
00:00:51.940I'll just give you guys a little insult.
00:00:53.620Well, Fredericksburg, Virginia is where I did every single training and what we call FTXs or field training exercises with the FBI's surveillance teams, with the counterintelligence teams, with the counterterrorism teams, with the FBI's HRT.
00:01:08.800There are so many federal agencies that are operating in Fredericksburg.
00:01:10.560You know it's probably the highest concentration on one of the highest concentrations of the East Coast.0.95
00:01:14.200So even to make it easy, have the few nerds they caught up, autistic nerds, incels, come right to their own training facility probably.0.95
00:01:23.360I mean, it just goes on and on and on, like crooks training at this Homeland Security0.96
00:01:43.240We somehow managed to survive without it forever.
00:01:45.120And it's been used against Donald Trump, his family, and people in his orbit.
00:01:48.520So it's already been kind of proven to be a dangerous tool.
00:01:50.700But what I think they're trying to do is they're saying you're leaving America vulnerable if you don't give us spying capabilities.
00:01:56.900We can't secure the elections, but what we can do is make sure that the terrorists don't get you.
00:02:00.700Look at these very bad terrorists and look what we would have had to use.
00:02:03.240You'll notice that they talk about it going on on June the 11th, and it was before the expiration of FISA.
00:02:08.660So we're able to see that just a couple of days before FISA expires, they're like, look what you're leaving us open to.
00:02:13.440And so they'll go through and they'll be rolling out this.
00:02:15.740They said there were 23 different people involved.
00:02:17.500I guarantee we won't see 23 different criminal complaints because some of those people are going to be on the wrong side of something, or they won't be real.
00:02:23.380They might just be bots that are part of some sort of either federal entrapment or an NGO entrapment, or they might even be a foreign government for all we know.
00:02:31.080But all of that stuff is being used to kind of put the camel's nose back under the tent, remind people this is why being spied on is so important.
00:02:38.620This is why you must trade your liberty.
00:02:40.780This is why you must give up on the Fourth Amendment, and you must do it for your security.
00:02:43.900and you know there's been warnings since the founding of this country that this is a problem
00:02:47.720meanwhile they're distracting us from the fact that we don't have secure elections they're not
00:02:51.400going to have election security passed and they can't they said even though they have a majority
00:02:55.240if it's bipartisan and you know that democrats are 100 100 behind it and they would pass it but for
00:03:00.860this other problem of like showing id while you go and you vote and doing paper ballots and doing
00:03:06.160it the same day they're kind of letting everyone see it in real time that doesn't mean that it
00:03:11.280won't be effective it doesn't mean that the average information you know person who gets it
00:03:14.840from from mainstream media sources are not going to say we demand spying on us which is what they
00:03:19.520are they're counting on past the the FISA thing and when it happens nobody ever revolts nobody
00:03:23.900ever changes their party status nobody ever refused to put back an incumbent so that's where
00:03:28.120the game will continue to be they just it's been successful for 26 years Alex I mean they just keep
00:03:33.440doing this thing whenever whenever you think we don't appreciate the FBI enough the FBI reminds
00:06:52.100It is ridiculous how transparent this is.
00:06:54.220Now, we didn't see in the first Trump man stuff being done for his administration's benefit or the classic FBI staging all the stuff, except J6, the Whitmer thing, and things against Trump himself and his supporters like yours truly.
00:07:06.420And those documents were declassified.
00:10:49.140She says, well, these five guys, how many are going to be Tucker Carlson fans?
00:10:52.260Of course, they have the militia violent extremist thing buying, you know, plate carriers and military type stuff.
00:10:58.640And then they have this fantastical plan. They equals the guy.
00:11:01.600Oh, they're also doing another thing. They're doing a callback to Signal, which is an encrypted app, just like iMessage is, by the way.
00:11:08.440If you have an iPhone and use the regular messaging app between other iPhone users, that's also end to end encrypted.
00:11:13.040But it touches on it prior to the FBI going back to 2012, 2014 under Jim Comey, where they were looking for what was called the Going Dark Initiative.
00:11:20.460They were worried that people would have access to encrypted comms, and if they could just get a backdoor into all of these things, then they could stop terrorism.
00:11:27.260So you've got all the things touching all at once.0.95
00:11:30.680Like I said, it's a smoothie of bullshit counterterrorism sort of fantasy.0.60
00:11:35.600A 19-year-old guy, and the plan is this hypothetical world where they are master flyers of drones with explosives that they don't have and drones that they don't have to set up explosions that are going to funnel people down a sniper channel with overlapping fire, as you said.0.96
00:11:50.460With people that don't have the training or experience to coordinate this, they had to show that they were physically fit and they had to post workout videos to show that they were capable and they tiered their terrorist operators, tier one, tier two, tier three, and only the high tiered guys could be team leaders and then also would lead the attack.
00:12:07.720So this guy that you just showed on the screen, who's a 19 year old balding chubby guy from Ohio who has like a couple thousand dollars worth of equipment, all told, you know, I've got more in one rifle than that guy has in all of his stuff.
00:12:18.180This guy apparently is a tier one terrorist team leader.
00:12:44.980he was part of an Aryan religion that turned out the feds were the high priest of it and where0.99
00:12:49.940they were getting him to go do this and then they bust him showing up when they had the drone with0.89
00:12:53.900the explosives not him so here they are we're the leaders of the secret religious order you go train0.82
00:13:00.000incriminate yourself show yourself tell us all about your terror and then we grade you up the0.88
00:13:05.540ladder here the perfect funnel to grab mentally ill basement dwellers and i mean do we know how0.99
00:13:12.420They all are. I've done I've done, you know, two dozen plus around the country, and we probably did a total of 40 or 50 between Washington field office and the surrounding Virginia area and around the country.0.67
00:13:22.960It's always the same. It's some guy between the ages of 17 and 30, and he lives with his mother and he doesn't have a funk, you know, job of any kind of progress.
00:13:32.780And he's disgruntled and he doesn't have that much money. And he walks to 7-Eleven with his mom's money to do these dumb things.
00:13:39.160And he's online and he's just mouthing off. He's the guy that talks about, you know, how frustrated he is. And so he finds a group of like minded people who end up being feds or fed adjacent.
00:13:47.360They're recruited what they call confidential human sources. And those sources get paid up to six figures in cash by the FBI to build these terrorism cases.
00:13:55.980There's a couple of really funny things in here that are worth pointing out. Number one, Cash Patel went and took credit for this right away.
00:14:00.880He ran to Fox News and Fox News basically published a press release on behalf of the FBI talking about law enforcement partners and stopping crime cold and all this other kind of bullshit, which is there's no other way to say it.
00:14:10.880It literally is Kash Patel's tweet. The second thing we can see is that Kash Patel rushed to be the first one to talk about it.
00:14:16.180They didn't do the normal DOJ press release. They didn't put this out through the normal channels where you go and you publish the, you know, the arrest in an official statement.
00:14:23.420and then you should give people access to the complaint.
00:14:25.480The FBI crafted the narrative around this story
00:14:27.820so that the things you heard this morning,
00:16:53.100They made a movie about this exact thing, setting people up and trapping them for religious liberties, free speech, you know, bad ideas that you're allowed to have in America, owning guns, training with your family, being religious, thinking that people who abuse children is a problem.
00:17:07.780You're supposed to be able to have some dissent.
00:17:09.760Now, does this guy seem like he's all mentally there? Probably not. Is he a terrorist mastermind at the age of 19 as he's balding and chubby and, you know, unable to carry on any like realistic ideas and buying bullpups that are screen printed with the American flag on him? No, he's not. He's like every other dude. He might be a little bit further down the line.
00:17:28.200And occasionally we get these guys that, you know, they don't belong in polite society because they're dangerous to themselves or others.
00:17:51.360But what we can give you is more spying on Americans with warrantless surveillance.
00:17:54.280They will likely find a way to loop this ideology into either foreign money or a foreign ideology, which gives you the opportunity to give that nexus that says it's a FISA save.
00:18:04.160And they've obviously already looped in the signals intelligence part of it and encrypted apps, signal, using phones, all this kind of stuff.
00:18:12.120So that's all in the FISA territory. That's all NSA collectible. And they're going to make this about something that it's not.
00:18:17.720And it's the same bullshit. I mean, they're literally they're checkboxing all of what the FBI calls domestic violent extremism.0.98
00:18:24.280and none of these things are operational plots in reality it's also interesting that they were
00:18:27.700going to meet in fredericksburg virginia i'll just give you guys a little insult
00:18:31.540fredericksburg virginia is where i did every single training and what we call ftx's or field
00:18:37.600training exercises with the fbi's surveillance teams with the counterintelligence teams with
00:18:42.060the counterterrorism teams with the fbi's hrt oh that place is lousy with feds there are so many
00:18:47.460federal agencies you know it's probably the highest concentration on one of the highest
00:18:50.900countries, the East Coast. So even to make it easy, have the few nerds they caught up,
00:18:55.480autistic nerds, incels, come right to their own training facility, probably. I mean, it just goes1.00
00:19:02.220on and on and on, like crooks training at this Homeland Security training facility
00:19:06.780in Pennsylvania. They don't even try to hide it, Kyle. This is like...
00:19:10.900We used to make a joke, Alex. I used to tell people, if you ever meet somebody online who
00:19:16.280agrees with all of your worst ideas, whatever the dumbest ones are, and really wants to encourage0.98
00:19:20.440the violent ones as well. And they're willing to help you do it. And they're willing to do it for0.99
00:19:24.040the exact amount of money that you actually have, even though the amount of money you have could not
00:19:27.420actually accomplish that plot. Generally speaking, you'll find out that they can't meet on weekends
00:19:31.580and they're only available during normal business hours because they're feds. That's what a fed
00:19:35.040looks like. A fed looks like someone that wants to work between the hours of eight and five,0.99
00:19:38.740collect their pension, and they're saving America with the plots that they are actually creating.
00:19:42.440Now, there's no indication from this complaint yet that I see indicating a confidential human
00:19:47.260informant. So there's a couple of possibilities here. Either you've got something like they just
00:19:50.820indicted the Southern Poverty Law Center for where the where an outside non-governmental agency is
00:19:55.840setting it up. And so you've got this group of people that funded it to be able to create it so
00:19:59.660they can show that it's there and they can fundraise on it. That's one possibility. The
00:20:02.820other possibility is there's foreign involvement. We've been told there's going to be Chinese money
00:20:06.800behind anti-data center stuff. Well, the best way you get people to crack down on the anti-data
00:20:10.740center people is to find some violent a-hole who's got some stupid ideas, links in all of0.99
00:20:15.940your favorite things into one single plot and then you can say look we've got religious people1.00
00:20:20.240they hate people about the epstein files they hate government corruption they're mad at the jews like
00:20:24.140you like run it down the list that's why we need the fbi to come after them and so you're justifying
00:20:29.200a surveillance state the saddest thing is we had a deputy director who made a movie that was warning
00:20:33.680about this they turned around and did exactly the thing they warned about and uh and i kind of feel
00:20:38.340betrayed that we were involved in that project because i actually thought they were going to
00:20:41.480point out to americans this is the reason why you take this tool away from the fbi and instead
00:20:46.180they're out there just reaffirming it well that's the thing about patel and and uh bungino is they
00:20:50.760ran around as eloquent as you doing hundreds and hundreds of shows showing they had maximum
00:20:56.300understanding of all of this just like we do we're like they're our peers we know they know what
00:21:00.100they're talking about then suddenly they're like sergeant schultz from hogan's heroes they know
00:21:04.420nothing in june of last year they do 180 on us everybody sees it and and so we understand that
00:21:11.340But very astute of you, because I forgot to point this out.
00:21:13.620You don't most of the time, the feds come in later phase, the ADL, the Southern Property Law Center, and a bunch of other NGOs they've got under it.
00:21:20.580They go out and recruit and find the people, get them set up and ready.
00:21:37.640yeah uh if you guys want to send me the link over in the back channel i'll take a look at it too but
00:21:42.400the the odds are and this is what we keep finding out we're going to see this whole plot available
00:21:46.440they found like 23 people in a signal group okay so again that plays great into signals intelligence
00:21:51.720collection that's the nsa's world that's what the fbi got in 2016 from the obama administration so
00:21:56.980we should call it out where it is and maybe it's worth kind of just doing a rehash for people to
00:22:00.940understand where this came from so i did this this morning i want to try and do it in kind of a tight
00:22:04.660and succinct way. We had a evolving definition of national security over the history of the
00:22:09.220United States. But 9-11 was a turning point in a very specific way. After 9-11, they went from
00:22:15.080saying that we need to make sure that we keep Americans safe from, you know, whatever threats
00:22:19.560to the Constitution that would stop our way of life. And when you see what they've done since
00:22:23.5009-11, they've basically grown from a foreign focus on foreign terrorism to a domestic focus
00:22:29.140on foreign ideologies and terrorism. And then when they ran out of all those things, the self-affirming
00:22:34.400piece of the FBI said, we are going to find domestic violent extremists. We're going to
00:22:39.060create the category. We're going to define things to be threats. And kind of like the Holy Roman
00:22:43.640Empire is neither holy nor Roman nor an empire. You've got domestic violent extremists that
00:22:48.280basically have nothing to do with violence or extremism necessarily. They may hold mainstream
00:22:52.380positions, but we're going to define it to be a threat. And that gives us a reason to exist and
00:22:56.940to surveil them and to look into it. And occasionally we'll set one of these dumb shits1.00
00:23:00.520up to be able to do something and they're going to push it along the lines where we've given them1.00
00:23:04.860all the means and motive and opportunity we've given them enough rope to hang themselves and as
00:23:09.040they do that then they go and say the wrong thing to the wrong fed at the wrong moment when they
00:23:14.000need a pr win and then you launch it and so let me stop you again i i just sped scanned this just
00:23:19.220read it really fast this is the israel heavy one where they oh they thought netanyahu was going to
00:23:24.300be there they were there to kill netanyahu and they talk about signals intelligence and and and
00:23:29.560and intercepts this is like you said all tailored and then you have larry fink and all of them
00:23:35.300saying oh they're getting ready the domestic terrorists attack the data centers it's all
00:23:39.380about that i mean this is literally written to sell their agenda this is beyond transparent
00:23:44.400it i mean it's like a you know like i said you got to be kidding me thing if you look at paragraph
00:23:49.000six of the indictment we're looking at for proctor it says that they were doing missions and recons
00:23:53.240So there you have your militia violent extremist tie in. This was something that was really big under the Biden administration. They didn't want people who own guns. And this is when they were highlighting that veterans are a problem because they've got training and experience and capabilities. So you have that bit. Then you have the guys that are like the pro-America sort of militia groups, the Boogaloo boys or whatever else they want to paint as being a problem.
00:24:12.260And at the end of the day, you're allowed to have guns.
00:25:11.400They spied on me. They spied on American people. It's also an audience of one for Trump.
00:25:17.140Kyle Serafin, where's the best place? You got five more minutes. We'll just have the break.
00:25:21.220But you've got OnX, Kyle Serafin, KyleSerafinShow.com. Where else people find your show and all the work you do?
00:25:27.940Yeah, KyleSerafinShow.com will take you to Spotify. That's where you can download if you want to take a listen.
00:25:31.960Today's show is particularly it's particularly historical talking about how this has evolved.
00:25:35.920We got into the deep, you know, sort of, you know, how it how it's worked, how it's evolved over the years and the things that I've seen on there.
00:25:41.760And I've been in cases where this is this is exactly like, you know, this is the one that they always go.
00:25:45.920This is the big one. What's almost always the case is that the FBI is the one setting it up and drawing it.
00:25:50.620Or the second piece of it is, is the FBI comes in on the tail end because local law enforcement interrupted it up front.
00:25:55.080That's right. Let's stop there. We got to go to law enforcement doing what they do.
00:25:57.620We got to go to do five more minutes ahead of Victor Booth. We come back in two minutes.
00:26:01.040And generally when they wind up something like this, there's gonna be more setups and more to come.
00:26:04.980This is building towards something, I believe, especially if they don't pass FISA.
00:26:07.920Stay right there, back in two minutes.
00:26:09.400Briefly, I can't run this operation without you.
00:29:20.160They're just trying to push things over
00:29:21.140The fight that I see right now is an attempt by Donald Trump. He's tried to attach the Save America Act to FISA renewal, which is a terrible idea to begin with.
00:29:28.840I don't think we should do FISA 702. We somehow managed to survive without it forever.
00:29:32.140And it's been used against Donald Trump, his family and people in his orbit.
00:29:35.540So it's already been kind of proven to be a dangerous tool.
00:29:38.220But what I think they're trying to do is they're saying you're leaving America vulnerable if you don't give us spying capabilities.
00:29:43.760We can't secure the elections, but what we can do is make sure that the terrorists don't get you.
00:29:47.580Look at these very bad terrorists and look what we would have had to use.
00:29:50.000you'll notice that they talk about it going on on june the 11th and it was before the expiration
00:29:54.920of fisa so we're able to see that just a couple of days before fisa expires they're like look what
00:29:59.000you're leaving us open to and so they'll go through and they'll be rolling out this they
00:30:02.860said there were 23 different people involved i guarantee we won't see 23 different criminal
00:30:06.540complaints because some of those people are going to be on the wrong side of something or they won't
00:30:09.880be real they might just be bots that are part of some sort of either federal entrapment or an ngo
00:30:15.080entrapment or they might even be a foreign government for all we know but all of that
00:30:18.780stuff is being used to kind of put the camel's nose back under the tent, remind people this is
00:30:23.680why being spied on is so important. This is why you must trade your liberty. This is why you must
00:30:28.360give up on the Fourth Amendment and you must do it for your security. And there's been warnings
00:30:32.560since the founding of this country that this is a problem. Meanwhile, they're distracting us from
00:30:36.580the fact that we don't have secure elections. They're not going to have election security
00:30:39.600passed. And they can't, they said, even though they have a majority. If it's bipartisan and you
00:30:44.100know that democrats are 100 100 behind it and they would pass it but for this other problem of
00:30:49.680like showing id while you go and you vote and doing paper ballots and doing it the same day
00:30:53.800they're kind of letting everyone see it in real time that doesn't mean that it won't be effective
00:30:58.940it doesn't mean that the average information you know person who gets it from from mainstream media
00:31:02.820sources are not going to say we demand spying on us which is what they're they're counting on
00:31:07.420pass the the fisa thing and when it happens nobody ever revolts nobody ever changes their party
00:31:11.880status nobody ever refused to put back an incumbent so that's where the game will continue to be
00:31:16.360they just it's been successful for 26 years alex i mean they just keep doing this thing whenever
00:31:21.520whenever you think we don't uh appreciate the fbi enough the fbi reminds you of how important they
00:31:27.020are with one of these bullshit terrorism cases and it is just every box as you said is checked
00:31:34.280for their entire agenda and so i would imagine now they'll have more plots foiled against data0.98
00:31:39.420centers more plots where it's all just theoretical with a group of autistic people as usual being0.81
00:31:45.420wound up by psychological warfare experts truly yeah one final thought for people it folks as you
00:31:51.420evaluate this information for yourself and you should look at it i want you to just consider
00:31:55.280do they have the means the motive the opportunity the capabilities and the technology to do the
00:31:59.600thing they said they would do does this guy have access to drones does he have access to understanding
00:32:03.260how to plan overlapping sector of fire does he have experience in shooting at any range does he
00:32:07.560have experience at coordinating a team like these are not things you just come with on the fly show
00:32:11.780up in fredericksburg virginia and then execute flawlessly they didn't have the explosives those
00:32:16.000that are described in the complaint as unknown they didn't have the ability to actually carry
00:32:20.500out almost any of this stuff because they're not real plots none of these things are real they're0.82
00:32:24.580theoretical they're online only they're a bunch of 19 year old shit talking on reddit and at the
00:32:28.900end of the day it's about the same amount of danger to us it's larping it's it's a hoax