The Alex Jones Show Live - October 02, 2026


Top Pollster Mark Mitchell Reveals The Truth About Economic Populism & The Coming Revolution!

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00:00:00.000 So on the right, you have disaffected young hard right men that don't like being Israel being put first.
00:00:05.320 They don't like billionaires being put first. They don't like a focus on the stock market.
00:00:09.940 They want to be able to buy a house, yada, yada, yada. On the left, you have these people who are Marxist radicals and they want increasing power within the party.
00:00:19.200 And so what they do is try to out radical each other in order to get a lot of Internet brownie points.
00:00:24.220 And that will raise their profile. And it's worked pretty well for AOC, you know, Mamdani and stuff like that.
00:00:30.540 Now, I think a lot of these people like the question remains, how real is this civil war?
00:00:35.520 Is it just internal power dynamics? And at the end of the day, they're all just sort of going to cuck out and do the establishment Democrat Party line.
00:00:42.240 There's a lot of reasons to think that's the case. Like, look at just like what Mamdani just came out and said. Right.
00:00:47.660 So DSA in and of itself is popular, but there aren't that many candidates.
00:00:53.680 And sure, obviously, some of these people are Marxists, but as like a unified force
00:00:57.880 that's going to take over the Democrat Party and make everybody DSA, like I don't see that
00:01:03.280 happening because I think it's all just sort of personal positioning that they're doing.
00:01:07.080 And if they're smart and they want to succeed as a Democrat, they'll moderate like in a
00:01:11.440 general election.
00:01:12.200 It's not too great to be out there saying you want to defund the police.
00:01:15.140 It's just not that wise.
00:01:16.360 And you're seeing this in Michigan too. Again, is he a communist? Probably. Is he going to be
00:01:21.560 successful in implementing communist policies, especially in a blue state? No, maybe they'll
00:01:28.120 take your guns away. But at the end of the day, we're not really seeing mumdani's like grocery
00:01:32.620 stores that the state's funding, taking over everything, right? And so that's why, again, 0.75
00:01:37.020 we seem to be stuck in this two-party kabuki. But the important point is that the Democrat youth
00:01:42.760 want to be put first. They don't want Israel to be put first. That's just like the youth on the 0.68
00:01:46.880 right. They hate corporations. They think that capitalism is cooked, just like the young people
00:01:52.840 on the right. They don't really care that much about the Constitution. They want fairness, 0.79
00:01:58.420 just like the people on the right. Now, you know, we have some disagreements, right? So like,
00:02:03.700 how fair are you to people who came here illegally? That's a disagreement that a youth
00:02:09.360 coalition would have to have to work through. But again, I think that these people are value
00:02:14.120 focused and more pragmatic than a lot of the people that have run politics are still running 0.59
00:02:20.320 politics today because the dynamic is, again, like boomers and silence have about 65 percent 0.58
00:02:26.880 of the wealth in the country and also 65 percent of the political power. And there are more silent 0.58
00:02:32.520 generation people in the Senate than there are millennials and there are no zoomers at all. 0.76
00:02:37.260 Well, it's going to switch really fast. Every year, there's like five million more. The electorate is five million more Zoomer than it is Boomer in silence because those people are dying off. Right. 0.88
00:02:49.360 So this is I mean, this is the sentiment we've been talking about. Eventually, something is going to break and that could be caused by a black swan financial exogenous shock.
00:03:01.120 It could be caused by NATO dragging us into total global war.
00:03:06.020 It could be caused by some type of secessionist behavior that might happen.
00:03:10.520 Right. Like maybe the Democrats get in control in twenty twenty eight and then a red state is sick of it and doesn't want to put up with it anymore.
00:03:17.200 Or maybe like I don't know, like the reverse could happen.
00:03:20.680 We were hearing like a lot of secessionist talk back when Republicans were storming blue states for the for the ice raids.
00:03:27.560 Right. Like we had people say they were going to openly defy federal law. Right.
00:03:31.960 And so it's easy to make these scenarios that could go south.
00:03:36.100 Very hard to predict exactly what's going to happen.
00:03:38.980 But what I'm saying is we're entering a period where there is going to be very, very, very rapid change.
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00:03:53.680 do you want to fight you better believe you got one mark mitchell formerly a raspies and now of
00:04:01.520 honest pollster uh really incredible guest thank you so much for coming back on the show
00:04:05.520 we were discussing a little bit on the break talking about you know the midterms kind of
00:04:10.300 the inevitable result that we're seeing with republicans kind of looking like it's going to
00:04:14.180 lose the house lose the senate but even more so than that this not just being or being a referendum
00:04:19.080 on the iran war and how people feel about that really just being uh like people are really
00:04:23.920 punished really really being hurt on the economy so what's going on there and welcome to the show
00:04:28.820 uh yeah great to be back i mean a lot of people are talking about the polls and at this point
00:04:34.840 uh you know it looks pretty set and we haven't actually seen a lot of swings recently there
00:04:39.980 was a big surprise a few weeks ago when all the left-leaning pollsters all of a sudden dropped
00:04:44.640 really bad polls for Republicans. But the surprise was, is that they were actually putting their
00:04:49.700 polls, you know, up to where independent pollsters had already had the race, which was about a D plus
00:04:55.200 10. Realtor politics aggregates got it about a D plus 8.5 right now. And I'm sorry at that level,
00:05:02.620 like I don't really project a very big national house popular vote miss. Now there will be maybe
00:05:08.740 some dynamics where the red areas are safer than the blue areas or maybe the gerrymandering,
00:05:15.160 but it looks like a Democrat House pickup of at least 10, 20, maybe 25 seats. So not a crushing
00:05:22.280 blue wave, and it's been described by Charlie Cook actually as a red undertow because the main
00:05:28.800 dynamic that's going on is in our last poll in the 24 cycle, Donald Trump got 42% of his vote
00:05:34.920 from independents and democrats and those people are basically just gone and so what you see is a
00:05:40.880 whole lot of republican flopping and twitching online as they try to come to grips with the
00:05:45.420 fact that these people are not comfortable safe republican voters you had a chance you basically
00:05:51.180 had a first date with them and they voted for you in 24 because trump was on the ballot those
00:05:56.220 people are really hard to reach they largely feel betrayed the economy is hitting them very hard
00:06:02.100 And you're probably not going to be able to get these people with a get out the vote effort or last minute advertising, which is what's really all the money is being spent on, because fundamentally they do feel betrayed.
00:06:12.840 And it's not like I said about Iran. And if you want to prove that, you can go to the RealClearPoliticsAggregate and look at Trump approval rating right now.
00:06:21.460 Trump approval rating is horrifying. It's the worst it's ever been, worse than after January 6th, even worse than when everybody thought the walls were closing in
00:06:30.340 because the russian collusion hoax he's underwater over 20 points and that's the lowest under
00:06:35.800 underwater over 20 points the lowest any president in recent history has gone into a midterm and and
00:06:42.000 it's obviously the iran situation is weighing on that but if you look at the approval rating
00:06:47.460 what you'll see is that it's basically linear the entire term people gave him a honeymoon until
00:06:53.400 about april of 2025 and then the numbers have just month by month been getting inexorably worse for
00:06:59.360 him. So the problem is, is that, you know, this wasn't Iran. And so maybe you could convince
00:07:05.420 people, well, wrap it up. You know, we're going to have some huge win. It doesn't make up for
00:07:10.060 the fact that this has been the economy and the messaging on the economy and the inability to
00:07:14.420 deliver the economic populist and reform components of his 2024 mandate. Right. Now,
00:07:19.900 sorry to interrupt. This is what everyone's been saying, like you're talking about at the point of
00:07:24.160 that honeymoon period ending, what was that, April of 2025? Was that what you said?
00:07:29.360 Yeah, I mean, it took them that long. I would say Doge was very popular. People, especially younger people, liked Doge.
00:07:35.460 And there was that was really eating up the airwaves that in the early executive orders for February and March.
00:07:44.540 And then in April, it was all about tariffs. And there was a little bit of financial chaos with Liberation Day.
00:07:51.100 You know, we had that market hiccup. But then Trump approval actually recovered after Liberation Day, which was, I think, a surprise to a lot of people.
00:07:58.920 And in my opinion, it shows that especially these younger and these independent people are kind of OK with chaos.
00:08:04.620 Like they expected that was going to be a part of a retribution platform, right?
00:08:08.940 But then by the time you get to May with the blow up with Elon Musk and the finger pointing and Elon pointed at Trump and blamed them for the Epstein stuff. 0.74
00:08:17.280 And then by June, we're bombing Iran. That's when the decline really started and has been steady the entire time.
00:08:23.260 So, again, Trump really does appear to be the problem here, and it's like, okay, they got these voters in 24. Trump wound up governing very differently than what he promised, and that made – that precluded basically transitioning these people into Republican voters.
00:08:40.800 So, again, they're gone and you're still going to get safe Republican voters.
00:08:44.580 There's still going to be. I mean, I mean, some of these people are mad, but they're going to hold their nose and vote.
00:08:49.140 And some of them are scared of socialism. Not really the young people anymore.
00:08:53.040 And what blows my mind in all of these discussions is people like James Fishback know all this.
00:08:58.160 It's like, yeah, the Republicans actually did kind of have to deliver this time.
00:09:01.920 It's it's an entirely different political environment.
00:09:04.660 And nobody in Washington, D.C. seems to understand this at all.
00:09:08.820 The very fact that you have people like Newt Gingrich coming out two months before the election and saying Republicans can win in a historic margin, and here's how with my plan.
00:09:18.400 It's like I've been saying – I've been sounding the alarm as you have for a year, year and a half, and all of these people, all of these consultant class people and the pundits basically attacked us because they didn't want to hear any dissent.
00:09:29.680 Well, like I'm sorry.
00:09:30.900 I can't fix the situation that you made for yourself.
00:09:33.560 And now what they're doing is they're throwing all this money at the last minute into already saturated, saturated advertising markets.
00:09:41.680 They're going to be sending direct mailers to people that have absolutely no chance or hope of voting for a Republican anyways.
00:09:48.380 So the money will get spent and people will make a lot of money on it.
00:09:51.880 But you're not seeing this sort of like forward looking structural plan to increase Republican operational turnout in a midterm cycle.
00:10:00.740 That probably should have been something they've been working on.
00:10:03.000 And the Republicans traditionally outsourced that stuff to consultants and vendors.
00:10:07.580 And, you know, it hasn't been working. It really hasn't been working.
00:10:11.440 The Republicans are going to spend way more on ads. The Democrats are going to spend way more on get out the vote.
00:10:16.380 And I think we're seeing, especially with the early vote numbers, that that was probably a very wise strategy.
00:10:22.400 And so at this point, again, the Senate, in my opinion, doesn't matter that much.
00:10:27.600 We were not really getting anything through the Senate anyways.
00:10:30.020 And the polling looks tight. Maybe Republicans can keep it by a seat. But with the House gone, there goes the legislative agenda. The rest of Trump's term is going to be him getting investigated.
00:10:39.800 And so the question remains like, OK, well, how do you win 2028? And what have we just learned? And we should be starting yesterday on a plan to put together some actual kind of strategy for if we maintain the executive power.
00:10:53.300 like what can we do differently this time folks what was wrong with our last platform what was
00:10:58.000 wrong with the way that we staffed the white house what could we have done different and why are we
00:11:03.520 losing these people and how can we get them back these people that we basically had one chance with
00:11:07.980 and now those people are all younger hard right men you see it online i had a couple of dms that
00:11:14.800 i put up on my twitter over the last 24 hours these people are playing footsie with socialism
00:11:18.980 Now you're hearing this sentiment a lot. Is it all of the, you know, under 40 men? Like, no, but a pretty good chunk of the far right ones are like, yeah, it's time for national socialism. It will save us. So you're, you know, again, if we're doubling down on people like Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and if the Republican party establishment is going to point the finger at the America first people, I think there's going to be a big blame battle.
00:11:43.420 And I think the Republicans have a lot of incentives basically to learn the wrong lessons because that's what the money wants, and the Republican Party does what the money wants, right?
00:11:53.020 I'm going to read this. I want to read this. This is one of those comments from those younger right-wing men that you're mentioning from Queens, background in finance.
00:12:01.680 As I get older, I become more disillusioned on the hard math that is statistically improbable that anyone in my immediate peer group will be able to achieve the modest quality of life their parents had.
00:12:11.280 I personally become more open to socialism or collectivism, etc. My parents' neighbors were a husband, sanitation, and wife teacher just sold their house for $1.4 million over 2,000 square feet, nothing fancy at all, to an ER doctor, a guy that makes at least $350,000 a year.
00:12:27.540 If the politicians on the right are not going to recalibrate the system so that a young man, at least the 40th, let's say 60th percentile, cannot afford a home and one or two incomes by simply following the social contract, IG, stay off drugs, go to college for real major work, and turn what they tell you to do, all the things they tell you to do, in order to secure a dignified W-2 job that pays a wage that can cover the mortgage and feed a family, then people are going to vote for communism slash redistribution.
00:12:52.380 And ultimately, it is when people can and can't eat.
00:12:55.220 And when I look at those grocery store prices, when I look at ground beef specifically, I
00:12:58.940 remember when I was like 350, 450 a pound.
00:13:01.720 Now it's ten dollars.
00:13:02.920 Are you kidding me?
00:13:03.760 What do you think about that, Mark?
00:13:05.720 Yeah, I mean, like, that's exactly it.
00:13:07.420 Actually, I would I would step back and say, look at the disdain with which most Republican
00:13:12.800 establishment leaders look at the young man, the young white man that has been actually
00:13:18.480 the core of their support and the reason Donald Trump won in 2016.
00:13:21.740 I mean, it was the keyword warriors. Now, I'm sure you've played the Brad video, so we don't need to like re litigate that thing. But Sarah Huckabee Sanders didn't say, oh, I made a mistake and took it down. She's proud of it. And she went on Fox News to defend it. And I mean, the issue with that guy isn't just this whole concept of like, hey, we are misrepresenting who's on welfare.
00:13:42.100 It's that you have a lot of these young people and the right looks at them and says, oh, they're wasting their time.
00:13:47.780 They're playing their games.
00:13:48.700 It's the boomer argument.
00:13:49.800 It's that this guy is not pulling himself up by his bootstraps and that's why he's failing.
00:13:54.220 And we all know that it's because he's been systemically shut out because of actually Republican open borders and open labor market policies.
00:14:03.460 Right. Like that's one of the biggest reasons.
00:14:05.320 but also DEI. And also like, look at, we're seeing DEI on the right now because that's what
00:14:10.860 this ad represents. So that guy actually wants a job and he wants a wife and he wants a family and
00:14:17.360 he wants to become a conservative voter. And instead of trying to like examine how we can
00:14:23.040 acknowledge that there are problems with the system and create a policy, create a policy
00:14:28.300 platform that brings us to a future where those systems are fixed, we treat him with utter disdain
00:14:34.120 when this is the person that is sitting out your election in a month.
00:14:37.420 It's literally that guy, right?
00:14:39.100 Now, a lot of them are actually minorities, too.
00:14:41.340 So, I mean, this whole race concept of Brad, in my opinion,
00:14:45.180 is really conflating what the real problem is.
00:14:47.600 It's these people that are not Republican voters,
00:14:49.800 and if you don't fix it, then they're going to go.
00:14:52.200 Actually, what a lot of them are going to do is the Nick Fuentes plan,
00:14:55.000 which is vote for Democrats on purpose to burn the Republican Party down.
00:14:59.200 And that's okay.
00:15:00.540 You hate them, and this is what they're going to do to you.
00:15:02.600 I think weirdly like Western racism. And what I mean by that is how the libtards behave where they put people in a caste system. And then I want to play like a racial politics based off that. What was it called? Obama called it the intersectional coalition or some crazy, crazy thing like that. 1.00
00:15:17.740 I think that's actually a luxury, a very, you know, spoiled thing to be able to do, because I talked to my friends of all backgrounds, of all races, colors and creeds and people that have vastly different political ideology than me.
00:15:29.920 They're like, we're done with being broke.
00:15:32.020 That's the universal sentiment is young people want to be able to buy homes.
00:15:35.940 Young people want to be able to have kids, be able to get their lady pregnant and be able to have a family. 0.84
00:15:40.760 People can't afford to make that step. 0.60
00:15:42.780 And then, you know, you have Sarah Huckabee Sanders deciding to target white people or just like younger white men in her ad.
00:15:49.840 It's not younger white men that are just being attacked.
00:15:52.640 It's all young men in the country that feel like we don't have a future.
00:15:55.420 Like, what are we working for?
00:15:56.700 What are we working for?
00:15:58.860 We have 40 trillion dollars of debt.
00:16:01.560 I mean, this is like we're not dealing with new trends, right?
00:16:05.280 When you have unemployment and underemployment and you disenfranchise, especially young men, especially young.
00:16:11.980 And I won't say white, but I will say young men of Western culture, right, because we can assimilate people and have them part of American culture.
00:16:19.520 These are the people that build things and solve problems and fight wars and lead, right?
00:16:24.640 Like that traditionally history has told us is the case.
00:16:27.560 And they look at the right and they say, OK, well, there's no place for me.
00:16:31.620 The system is broken and these people aren't going to fix it.
00:16:34.060 And they look at the left and they say, OK, well, these people hate me because of intangible reasons and I can't really vote for them as well.
00:16:41.060 But I can punish the right and maybe long term fix the right. And what that means is that they're going to have to get a lot more flexible with the way that they look at policy and ideology in order to solve what becomes a age younger versus older coalition that they would have to form.
00:16:59.000 And that's why they're shifting closer to socialism. That's why I think you see younger people mostly on the right saying, you know, the Constitution doesn't really stand for much anymore. The Democrats don't really care about it anyways. And really, if we can get something that's just and moral, I don't care so much about the legal anymore.
00:17:19.540 And so, again, I've seen all these signs in the polling that they don't really care about the legality of certain things, which means that, in my opinion, they were expecting Trump to cross the Rubicon in response to what they perceive to have been Biden crossing the Rubicon.
00:17:36.180 You're right. Especially with the covid stuff. You're right. And this is the missing link. This is the nugget that has been missing from my analysis because I did a flock camera debate, which I won, by the way, like a month ago against this guy, Spencer Summerhays.
00:17:48.600 And I didn't understand the nature of his position until he said until I asked him the question.
00:17:55.200 I was like, OK, are you willing to give the Democrats this power?
00:17:58.080 Would you admit that it could be harmful to the American people, the Democrats get it?
00:18:01.820 He's like, yes, that's not going to be a problem because we're going to win infinite elections in the next election.
00:18:06.200 You're never going to have to worry about it again, Rex.
00:18:08.040 And I'm just like, well, in my worldview of following the Constitution, being a true classical liberal, classical conservative, whatever you want to call it, believing in America and the mission of our country and how beautiful.
00:18:18.280 and correct our system is that was set up 250 years ago.
00:18:21.840 That's not even in my worldview, but for the younger people that are looking for that radical
00:18:26.620 edge, like that guy's like a nationalist conservative, right?
00:18:29.160 But he's willing to throw out the Constitution and give flock access to the personal effects
00:18:34.900 of every person in America without a warrant, because he believes if he can put his side 1.00
00:18:39.640 in power forever, that we'll be able to use that to get rid of all the illegal immigrants 0.84
00:18:43.100 and do whatever. 1.00
00:18:44.120 So you're right about people making the extreme steps, is my point.
00:18:46.880 What do you think?
00:18:48.280 Yeah. I mean, again, I see two sides of the AI argument that are most common is that we have
00:18:53.280 to beat China. And so it's a national project in order to maximize AI investment, or it's going to
00:18:59.460 take all of our jobs and take over our entire country. But it's like, I've used AI enough to
00:19:04.000 know it's a very powerful tool and it should be turned against all the liars, cheaters,
00:19:08.160 malfeasant people within our government to purify. And that's what, I mean, like this is,
00:19:12.800 again i'm not trying to like you know nazi signal here i'm saying i'm saying this is what the youth
00:19:18.580 are talking about and i found the one i was looking for this is a one another one of those
00:19:23.420 zoomer comments i was getting i'm talking to a lot of under 30 non-dc conservatives mostly military
00:19:29.620 or texas based and no one really has a problem with socialism per se they're fine with socialism
00:19:35.040 they just don't want to give it to foreigners or be forced to pay for crazy health care procedures
00:19:39.100 like sex changes socialism isn't really the boogeyman it used to be honestly a lot of people
00:19:43.520 just think socialism can work if you kick out all the immigrants entirely and so what we're hearing
00:19:48.740 is basically like people think we're in weimar conditions and they are looking for purges that's
00:19:54.880 what they really want right and the republicans have no answer for that in fact they actually did
00:20:00.620 like what a lot of these people perceive to have been a rug pull yeah you know what it's not just
00:20:05.960 a rug pull the companies is rug pull the country itself like i think here's the thing it's hard to
00:20:11.800 define these terms and what they even really mean because if we're a capitalist uh country if we're
00:20:17.440 a free market then why does the government own stock in companies like nvidia why does the
00:20:21.760 government promote military spending like you could you could go down the line and create a
00:20:26.600 list of all things that we do that would already not fit within the traditional definition of what
00:20:31.020 a free market country is so then you get people that kind of slither on in and say hey aren't you
00:20:35.900 ready to reform this whole thing. Look at what the establishment, not even the GOP, is doing with
00:20:40.760 the whole situation. Both Democrats and Republicans have perpetuated the system, especially with the
00:20:45.580 military spending. That's where I think you get young people, both on the right or the left,
00:20:50.080 really hungry for more radical, quote unquote, solutions. He's already seeing them being
00:20:54.440 implemented. The Rubicon's already been passed. I think health care is a really great example of
00:21:00.740 that. And so most of the dynamic around the healthcare discussion has been, listen, it costs
00:21:06.180 too much money. It's too expensive for everybody that we tried to regulate it. It didn't work at
00:21:11.600 all. And so the left just wants to basically nationalize it and turn it into a public service.
00:21:17.940 And the Democrats, the Republicans will point to that and say, that's socialism. That's evil. We
00:21:22.540 can't do it. What you never hear is the Republican solution. Now, Donald Trump will talk about
00:21:27.500 lowering pharmaceutical prices. And the effect that he's had probably reduces our healthcare
00:21:31.860 cost about 1% or less. And so that's not really a systemic fix. It's just optics. So what would
00:21:38.120 a systemic fix look like from the right? I've asked people, and as far as I can tell, the only
00:21:42.900 solutions I've heard have been more like, hey, let's have another HSA account. Well, that doesn't
00:21:48.200 fix the cost problems with healthcare. It just gets the bankers involved. And so what I would
00:21:52.900 submit is that the free market right is just as incapable as the socialist left of solving the
00:22:00.340 healthcare problem. Now, I think increasingly what you're going to see is people that just say, well,
00:22:05.280 we're going to nationalize it and purge it, and then we'll give free markets a chance after it's
00:22:09.820 been corrected, right? And so this is the kind of sentiment that I think could be harnessed into
00:22:14.320 something useful, like a better platform, because the problem with healthcare is basically oligarchy,
00:22:19.680 Right. It's basically you have rich people that have captured the government and there's a revolving door and the whole thing is set.
00:22:26.440 So it's basically a rent seeking, you know, cancer on our economy. Right.
00:22:32.580 You know, how are you going to fix the oligarchy? Well, we've had these problems before.
00:22:37.180 And if you're going to do it politically without breaking the rules and nationalizing things, you're going to have to have somebody like Teddy Roosevelt, 0.99
00:22:43.000 who is willing to get up there and have a bully pulpit and call these scumbags out to their face. 0.96
00:22:49.080 And I will tell you, the young people on both the right and the left are mistrustful of these companies. 0.97
00:22:54.780 There's not a whole lot of difference between people that like what J.D. Vance says and people that like what Bernie Sanders says.
00:22:59.800 Right. Republicans are on the total wrong side of that. 0.98
00:23:02.760 And this is a big deal that nobody talks about because both parties are co-opted by billionaires.
00:23:07.660 Right. But every time that Donald Trump hugs Mark Zuckerberg, you lose another thousand voters.
00:23:13.060 That's basically what is happening here. And there's going to be huge, major snapback.
00:23:17.980 If you want to see industries nationalized, this is the way you do it.
00:23:21.540 It's the exact opposite of the bully pulpit.
00:23:24.240 That's such a great way to put it.
00:23:25.420 Instead of, you know, calling out the oligarch class, calling out the people, you know, doing the monopolization of the country.
00:23:32.100 What Trump has done instead is he's cozied up to them.
00:23:34.540 He has them over for gallows for dinners.
00:23:36.440 I mean, we hate Bill Gates here on this network.
00:23:38.720 We really, really hate Bill Gates.
00:23:40.300 It's like our number one guy that we dislike. 1.00
00:23:42.460 However, he sucks. 1.00
00:23:43.620 Yeah, he's terrible. 1.00
00:23:44.520 He's open depopulation expert, giving people polio, live polio vaccines in Africa. 1.00
00:23:49.560 He's a horrible person, a horrible man. 0.98
00:23:51.300 This person is going to the White House and slithering up next to Melania Trump, you know? 0.99
00:23:56.360 So every time you get that on video, you're going to lose another 10,000, 50,000 people,
00:24:01.280 right?
00:24:01.600 And then when you tell them that, hey, Mr. President, please don't do this.
00:24:05.860 Please don't have these evil people around you.
00:24:07.840 You're the panicking. 0.99
00:24:09.280 You're the low IQ. 0.99
00:24:10.740 You're fried. 1.00
00:24:11.440 You're bankrupt.
00:24:11.940 and all things he said to my father, said to Tucker Carlson, said to Marjorie Taylor Greene,
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00:27:10.220 Powerful third hour here.
00:27:11.560 powerful third hour rex jones rex jones news with the z on twitter follow me there joined by
00:27:16.520 mark mitchell we're talking all things polling 2026 2028 and uh america's future writ large and
00:27:23.300 in general we've been talking a lot about the prospects of the gop and just you know the voter
00:27:28.140 base that came out for trump supported trump what about the other side what about the people whether
00:27:33.260 they're hillbots whether they are you know antifa dsa types whether just generally uh you know
00:27:39.100 liberal or left-wing people, whatever we want to call them, what are they doing right now?
00:27:44.400 Because I had this interesting story from Hassan Piker, from the Gateway Pundit on
00:27:49.220 Hassan Piker.
00:27:50.340 Hassan Piker implies, obviously, the left owns James Tallarico.
00:27:55.300 After he wins, we have to remind him we allowed him to win the seat.
00:27:59.440 This is the full quote.
00:28:00.900 After James Tallarico wins, we have to remind him that we are the force that allowed him
00:28:05.620 to win this seat of power.
00:28:06.780 And if he wants to maintain it, he's got to play ball.
00:28:09.980 Mark, what's your take on that?
00:28:12.920 So I think you're seeing a very similar thing on the left as what you're seeing on the right.
00:28:17.460 And first, I actually heard some stuff about internal polling showing that maybe he's not as safe a win as people think.
00:28:23.460 The public polling shows him up a few points.
00:28:25.700 I think the race has been narrowing.
00:28:27.100 We'll have to see.
00:28:28.220 But if there's going to be a miss in the polling, it'll be probably places like Texas,
00:28:32.880 where in the 2024 cycle, the Republicans outperformed what the polling industry said by a couple of points.
00:28:40.980 So that is possible. I think of any of the states, Texas is probably the safest that are currently toss ups.
00:28:47.040 Now, that being said, what you the dynamics that you see on the right and the left are similar in that there is an entrenched establishment that actually share a lot of things.
00:28:56.740 They share this kind of love for an economic establishment status quo.
00:29:02.140 Right. Like you do not see the Bernie Sanders is of the party rising to the top and being in control of everything.
00:29:08.360 It's people like Chuck Schumer. And these guys have their big corporate oligarchs as well.
00:29:13.100 They have clean energy. They have tech. The right has a military industrial complex.
00:29:17.580 They both have pharma. Right. And they they both have Israel and they both have, you know, the leftist neocons,
00:29:25.600 which lean a little bit more like anti-Russian Bolsheviks and the right neocons that lean a little bit more Zionist.
00:29:31.700 But in the Senate is where it doesn't reflect the politics you see on an everyday basis, the same level of absolute fear mongering that you're being told to vote for Republicans right now.
00:29:43.360 For instance, you're hearing you have to vote red or you're dead and you're a traitor if you're a Republican voter and you're not coming out to vote.
00:29:51.320 Meanwhile, it quite, you know, as a matter of fact, the Republicans only have about 30, 35 votes for nuking the filibuster from what I hear.
00:30:00.240 And so if we really were concerned about getting things like the Save Act passed, you would probably see more Republican votes in the Senate because the Republican House is getting things through.
00:30:10.220 But the thing is, is that we all know they'll fail in the Senate. Right. So it's all freaking optics. Nothing. Nothing is happening.
00:30:17.140 So on the right, you have disaffected young hard right men that don't like being Israel being put first.
00:30:22.460 They don't like billion billionaires being put first. They don't like a focus on the stock market.
00:30:26.800 They want to be able to buy a house, yada, yada, yada. On the left, you have these people who are
00:30:31.960 Marxist radicals and they want increasing power within the party. And so what they do is try to
00:30:37.680 out radical each other in order to get a lot of internet brownie points. And that will raise their
00:30:42.540 profile. And it's worked pretty well for AOC, you know, Mamdani and stuff like that. Now, I think a
00:30:48.460 lot of these people, like the question remains, how real is this civil war? Is it just internal
00:30:53.280 power dynamics and at the end of the day they're all just sort of going to cuck out and do the
00:30:57.520 establishment democrat party line there's a lot of reasons to think that's the case like look at
00:31:02.120 just like what mom donnie just came out and said right um but you know the dsa what did he come out
00:31:09.220 what did he come out and say what did mom donnie say i think it was something that was pretty
00:31:13.200 overtly pro-jewish in new york city right i i don't know exactly off the top of my head but
00:31:19.360 But we're seeing these people contradict themselves, pick up more of an establishment tone, kind of like a reflection of what we've seen out of MAGA, now MAGA and Trump.
00:31:29.580 That's an interesting reflection there.
00:31:32.440 Yeah. So DSA in and of itself is popular, but there aren't that many candidates.
00:31:38.540 And sure, obviously, some of these people are Marxists, but as like a unified force that's going to take over the Democrat Party and make everybody DSA.
00:31:47.200 Like, I don't see that happening because I think it's all just sort of personal positioning that they're doing.
00:31:52.400 And if they're smart and they want to succeed as a Democrat, they'll moderate like in a general election.
00:31:57.500 It's not too great to be out there saying you want to defund the police.
00:32:00.440 It's just not that wise. And you're seeing this in Michigan, too.
00:32:03.600 Again, is he a communist? Probably.
00:32:06.200 Is he going to be successful in implementing communist policies, especially in a blue state with like, no, maybe they'll take your guns away.
00:32:14.420 But at the end of the day, we're not really seeing mumdani's like grocery stores that the state's funding, taking over everything. Right. And so that's why, again, we seem to be stuck in this two party kabuki. But the important point is that the Democrat youth want to be put first. They don't want Israel to be put first. That's just like the youth on the right.
00:32:32.440 They hate corporations. They think that capitalism is cooked, just like the young people on the right.
00:32:39.300 They don't really care that much about the Constitution. They want fairness, just like the people on the right.
00:32:45.780 Now, you know, we have some disagreements, right? So like, how fair are you to people who came here illegally?
00:32:52.980 That's a disagreement that a youth coalition would have to have to work through.
00:32:56.680 But again, I think that these people are value focused and more pragmatic than a lot of the people that have run politics are still running politics today because the dynamic is, again, like boomers and silence have about 65 percent of the wealth in the country and also 65 percent of the political power. 0.51
00:33:16.380 And there are more silent generation people in the Senate than there are millennials and there are no zoomers at all. 0.58
00:33:22.560 Well, like it's going to switch really fast. Every year, there's like five million more. The electorate is five million more Zoomer than it is Boomer in silence because those people are dying off. Right. 0.90
00:33:34.720 So this is I mean, this is the sentiment we've been talking about. Eventually, something is going to break. And that could be caused by a black swan financial exogenous shock. It could be caused by NATO dragging us into total global war.
00:33:50.760 It could be caused by some type of secessionist behavior that might happen. Right. Like maybe the Democrats get in control in twenty twenty eight and then a red state is sick of it and doesn't want to put up with it anymore.
00:34:02.520 Or maybe like I don't know, like the reverse could happen. We were hearing like a lot of secessionist talk back when Republicans were storming blue states for the for the ice raids. Right.
00:34:13.140 Like we had people say they were going to openly defy federal law. Right. And so it's easy to make these scenarios that could go south. Very hard to predict exactly what's going to happen.
00:34:23.880 But what I'm saying is we're entering a period where there is going to be very, very, very rapid change.
00:34:29.660 And unfortunately, we're seeing a complete and utter dereliction of duty on the side of the Republicans to change their ideology in really any way in order to like not only accommodate these changes, but like excel.
00:34:45.120 You know what I mean? Like win. And it's not hard. Like this is not rocket science we're talking about.
00:34:51.020 We're talking about, like, basically a protectionist, nationalist, anti-fraud, you know, platform that that's kind of obvious in this environment.
00:35:02.800 Right. It's like, oh, you know, we're going to lower your egg prices by, you know, investing in more egg fat.
00:35:10.300 You know, it's like let's get a pro worker environment. Right. Let's raise wages.
00:35:14.660 let's work you know go after these corporations that are abusing these systems get rid of all
00:35:21.700 the loopholes maybe raise corporate taxes instead of lowering them republicans there i'm telling you
00:35:28.100 a wealth tax is coming that we have a wealth tax almost three to one among republicans now and i
00:35:35.160 mean like there were no pulling tricks and so again you have a republican saying you have to
00:35:40.680 vote Republican because if you don't, we're going to be a socialist nation. All the while I could
00:35:46.120 rattle off 10, 10 examples off the top of my head that Republicans support socialistic measures.
00:35:52.760 So one of the questions we just reported last week is that we said, um, would you support or
00:35:59.660 oppose, uh, workers and the government taking control of industry like factories and energy
00:36:07.440 companies and redistributing the profits to the people instead of the owners. And so that's seizing
00:36:14.800 the means of production, right? Like that's what that is. It was supported 43 to 40 among Republicans.
00:36:20.200 It was plus nine among Trump voters. So a plurality, almost a majority of Trump voters
00:36:26.140 literally support seizing the means of production. So these people hear the word socialism. They don't
00:36:32.000 even know what it means. They think it means like crazy leftists. Meanwhile, you have Republican 0.99
00:36:36.620 youth are like, yeah, we want, it's time. We want socialism. It could probably work,
00:36:40.680 but we're going to have to purge everybody. And Donald Trump, we wanted it. And we were happy
00:36:44.760 when Trump looked like he was going to do it. And now we're looking for our new Franco. This
00:36:49.200 is the thing I hear over and over again. When's our Franco going to come? We thought it was going
00:36:52.600 to be Trump. So like, I don't want to try and say this too many times, but what the Zoomers say is 1.00
00:37:01.380 that the Republican party doesn't know what time it is. And I think that's very clear. 0.96
00:37:05.160 Yeah, I agree. I also think that's very clear. I want to cover this because it is breaking news. A UK-Iran national, Iranian national arrested under the Terrorism Act over the RAF Fairford incident.
00:37:17.080 Counter-terrorism police have arrested a 27-year-old in Westminster, while a second man in question is under caution. Detectives have arrested a dual UK-Iranian national on suspicion of terrorism offenses as part of an investigation into a suspected plot near RAF Fairford.
00:37:34.240 That is, of course, where some of the U.S. bombers had been kept.
00:37:38.360 And we saw the images that came out of the young military-age men who were detained on the road.
00:37:43.580 And apparently now they got one other person. 0.97
00:37:45.780 But everything's rapidly developing to turn into a big old nasty Iranian plot. 0.98
00:37:51.040 And then the EU can get involved. 0.97
00:37:53.180 Then NATO can get involved.
00:37:54.340 Whatever.
00:37:54.860 Just got to give people the breaking news.
00:37:56.400 What do you think about the Tallarico-Paxton case?
00:38:00.600 Because you said that that was one of the races that may be the most inaccurate as far as this like blue wave is supposed to go.
00:38:09.860 Well, I'm just conjecturing that when you look at the national House popular vote, there will be some ups and downs between red and blue areas.
00:38:16.880 But generally, the polling should be pretty good because it's been pretty good for about a decade, decade and a half.
00:38:21.780 And you're increasingly seeing more pollsters added to the aggregate and more independent pollsters.
00:38:26.180 So that I would be surprised if there was an upset in the House.
00:38:31.260 Now, in the Senate, it's it's really I mean, some of these states that I read is like, oh, Republicans have a chance in Minnesota.
00:38:38.180 There's only been four polls out in the last month and two of them I don't even trust.
00:38:42.400 So, like, I don't even have any clue what's going to happen in Minnesota.
00:38:45.140 Is it going to be a Republican win?
00:38:46.880 I think we can all look at that and say probably hell no.
00:38:49.180 Right. Unless something crazy happens.
00:38:51.140 But as a pollster, it's impossible to know, hey, there was a last minute ad and it really just got everybody or, yeah, the Democrats had a really good ground game.
00:38:59.680 They were stuffing ballots. It's impossible to know these things.
00:39:02.320 So what you tend to see is like ups and downs between the states.
00:39:06.000 I think that's totally going to happen. There will be surprises.
00:39:08.880 Now, there's people out there like Harry Anton saying that systematically all of the states are going to lean in one direction or the other.
00:39:16.820 that's plausible i don't see any evidence in the polling based on that is all i'm saying
00:39:22.300 and so at the end of the day you can only conjecture about what these surprises are
00:39:26.680 going to be in the states like maybe whatley wasn't as bad of a candidate as we all thought
00:39:31.840 in north carolina and he loses by five instead of eight like those are the kinds of surprises
00:39:36.000 i'm expecting to see right now the reason i think texas is interesting again is because
00:39:42.040 was the situation with the donor bucks and i think that this is a very important dynamic
00:39:47.440 now you showed a chart earlier and one of these very disingenuous uh you know arguments that we
00:39:52.760 hear is that only republicans can only be punished in the primary and we just got through primary
00:39:59.060 season we saw maybe two or three rhinos total across 535 races get taken out right that's not
00:40:04.780 a good rate of change that's not going to fix the party it's a bad argument right but then it's like
00:40:10.600 okay well in the general you can't vote against a republican because you're voting for communists
00:40:15.320 or socialists right um but then it's like okay well if that's the case like why are we spending
00:40:22.160 300 million dollars on texas now that's going to go to super inefficient ads in a saturated media
00:40:29.420 market in the last month of the race when we could have been a lot more strategic about defending
00:40:35.080 the senate seat and what you had is the establishment because it's consultant driven
00:40:39.580 throw $100 million into defending Cornyn, most likely because his ties with the Indian diaspora
00:40:45.660 politics are profitable for the state GOP or whatever. I'm just conjecturing, right?
00:40:50.280 But they were defending this guy for establishment reasons. And now, because we still want to hold
00:40:56.060 the seat, even though we hate the candidate, the establishment would say this, then they got to
00:41:00.440 siphon all this money from everywhere else. And so to defend Texas is becoming a bottomless pit
00:41:06.000 of donor bucks when everybody was saying we're going to win because Republicans have a fundraising
00:41:10.000 advantage. In reality, what is really happening is that no matter how much money the right and
00:41:15.140 the left raise, the Democrats have created a systemic get out the vote effort and they've
00:41:21.460 created candidate pipelines. They've created a network of NGOs that make their get out the vote
00:41:27.440 effort very repeatable. And so if you were to strip away stupid ad buys, the Democrats are 0.99
00:41:33.000 actually going to spend smart money, four to one, probably that more than the Republicans are. 0.99
00:41:38.800 And so the Republicans are captured in this. I mean, this is literally why all these decisions
00:41:43.280 are being made. This is why Sarah Huckabee Sanders says dumb stuff online, right? This is why rhinos 0.99
00:41:48.520 get endorsed for Donald Trump. This is why basically MAGA can't break into politics. 0.92
00:41:53.620 And it's because the donor money still runs everything. This is why the bad decisions are
00:41:58.120 being made at the trump white house because we can't upset the donors and so unless now we have
00:42:03.720 an honest discussion about why we got in this situation before the argument gets co-opted into
00:42:09.220 some well israel versus not israel that's really not what's going on here it's a party for the
00:42:15.220 donors and not for the people and it like quite frankly needs to be burned down that's why rich
00:42:20.840 barris wrote a whole book about it right so uh you know again i don't know if there's going to
00:42:26.220 be a ton of introspection but if they want to win in 2028 this is a conversation that needs to be
00:42:30.860 had and it needs to be like outside money building new infrastructure that dc consultants can't touch
00:42:36.280 and it has to have good data it has to have a pipeline of candidates it's probably got to look
00:42:41.140 a lot like what arabella advisors looks like or something like that right and uh you know
00:42:46.640 preaching you know just in the wilderness on this like nobody is talking about this kind of thing
00:42:52.560 if i had all right if you had to give me a one-word answer for what you would describe
00:42:58.220 mom donnie as being what would that one word be um yeah good showman that's why he won right hey
00:43:06.260 i care for you i don't care about israel is that the future of american politics because that that's
00:43:11.180 where i was going to go to i was going to say entertainer but it's literally it's the their
00:43:14.740 synonyms is the same word like is that truly the future of like 2028 i'm thinking about like
00:43:19.760 gavin newsom aoc jd vance marco rubio people with name value people the american public have seen
00:43:26.040 before does it take that or could it just be someone that's really charismatic like a mom
00:43:29.500 donnie to paint with a very broad brush because of their structure and because of the way democrats
00:43:34.980 think they're high propensity voters now and on average they're mostly voting because they just
00:43:40.220 want to be in power and win because they want to have this moral authority of that i'm on the good
00:43:44.120 team, right? And so if you look at it from that perspective, they care a lot less about actually
00:43:49.900 seeing like change, right? Because when they get into power, then everything's fine. Like most of
00:43:55.940 them don't know the things that we look at Biden and are upset about because they never even saw
00:44:00.460 the reporting. They don't read the newspaper, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now on the right,
00:44:04.480 the problem is, is that they don't have that. They can't win a national election without a
00:44:08.500 whole bunch of people that actually expect their grievances to be redressed. Those people are the
00:44:13.580 surge volume that might not vote for Democrats, but just aren't going to show up. And so this
00:44:18.880 idea that somehow we're going to continue to vote for traditional conservative values that include
00:44:25.080 free market economics and worship of the constitution and foreign interventionalism,
00:44:30.880 what you're going to see is the establishment party is still fine with that because that's
00:44:35.540 what the donors like. And it is a losing proposition more and more every year. This
00:44:41.020 is the inflection point where it will become intolerable for the Republican Party, which is
00:44:46.620 why I'm screaming about it so much, which is why, quite frankly, very few people are talking about
00:44:51.440 it. It's why a bot army will attack you if you bring any of these things up because it's being
00:44:55.960 funded by donor bucks. There's PACs that are out there with group chats, you know, putting targets
00:45:02.300 out there for these bots to go after. They're not in blue sky going after leftists. They're
00:45:07.860 conducting fratricide on independent thinkers that are trying to figure out how to get the party to 0.60
00:45:12.720 move in a good direction to better serve the american people that is like malfeasant corrupt
00:45:20.660 amoral like i you know i my first election was for somebody i thought was going to be a christian
00:45:27.240 conservative right like that's what the side used to be like we did have the moral authority right
00:45:32.920 And it's like, if everything is built on lies and graft, then how are we going to satisfy these young people that get a bigger group every year who want justice, morality, righting of wrongs, accountability?
00:45:48.560 That's what these people want.
00:45:49.600 They want the system to work. 0.93
00:45:51.100 What's that stat on the amount of boomers that leave the electorate every year and then the amount of Zoomers that join the electorate? 0.80
00:45:57.680 So rough math, it's about one to two million boomers die a year, and there's four million new 0.97
00:46:02.980 zoomers every year aging into the electorate. There'll be alphas soon, but it's like, okay, 0.97
00:46:09.360 we're talking about between five and six million net shift in the electorate, and the electorate's
00:46:13.800 like what, you know, 170 million. So that's a pretty big percentage. That's like getting around,
00:46:19.700 it's almost up to 5% a year. So that's 10% a cycle, right? So if you look ahead to 2038,
00:46:27.100 You know, that's what's that six years. So 36 million, a shift of the electorate. And so now in the right, that's like, OK, 30 million of your electorate. These are huge numbers and they just think entirely different.
00:46:45.300 And because good. No, that they are resilient to being preached to because they're actually upset because the older generation has a completely disparate view of what reality is like that is the main problem.
00:46:59.260 And so on the left, again, they might be able to paper over these rifts because of the cohesion seeking nature of the left wing voter.
00:47:06.200 But also they have they have their little fluffy middle that can be poached as well.
00:47:10.660 But the real problem is that the right needs a coalition to win. And now you're having increasingly like groups that are ideologically at odds within the Republican Party that will play out first, not over economic populism, which I think we should focus on.
00:47:26.260 It will play out first over Israel. And this is the issue, because I think 2028 is winnable for somebody like Vance, depending on what happens between now and then and caveated heavily that he's going to have a Trump problem that he has to figure out how to how to how to work out.
00:47:42.980 But the money is very largely controlled by pro-Israel people. There's a lot of neoconservatism within the leadership and the establishment Republican Party, and they're not happy with his current level of support.
00:47:56.680 And so his ability to satisfy both sides of this debate, which has now almost split the Republican Party basically in half, that's where the Israel support is now, you might have basically a neoconservative gun held to the head of the Republican Party.
00:48:14.980 Maybe they're okay with losing if they don't get to win the way they want.
00:48:19.780 And then if they get their candidate, they'll obviously get crushed, right?
00:48:22.740 So that's the situation.
00:48:25.780 It really is brutal for somebody like me, like you, that thought after 2024, we're going to have this amazing resurgence because all the GOP needed to do was stick to the original platform.
00:48:35.720 And I had Fishback on last hour, and he said it feels to him like it's fraud.
00:48:40.620 You know, like how are you going to say that you're going to do all these things that we give you not just the executive branch but a Republican House or Republican Senate?
00:48:47.820 This has been one of our most inactive sessions of Congress of all time.
00:48:52.980 They just haven't done anything.
00:48:54.120 They don't do anything up on the Hill, but avoid the responsibilities that they were given and they signed up for from the voter base.
00:49:00.740 So I think it's really important to stay on top of all of these elections as they develop.
00:49:05.420 Of course, how many days is it out to the election?
00:49:09.120 We're not quite at a month yet. It's in the 30s.
00:49:12.560 I think the number I saw was like 33 or something like that.
00:49:15.520 We're just we're just above 30 days to the election.
00:49:19.380 In closing, Mark Mitchell, where can people find you?
00:49:22.060 Where can people support you and see more of your work?
00:49:26.100 Yeah, besides you guys, I'm one of the only people talking about this.
00:49:29.480 And please follow me.
00:49:30.740 It's thehonestpoll.substack.com.
00:49:33.440 And I have a YouTube channel, at Honest Poll, that you can go check.
00:49:37.000 We go into the details on the polling and try and explain it to everybody.
00:49:40.400 And on Twitter, I'm at Honest Pollster.
00:49:42.400 And I have some hot takes.
00:49:43.840 It's a good place to be.
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