The Alex Jones Show Live - July 13, 2026


🚨VIDEO: Pentagon Generals Believe Senator Lindsey Graham Was Killed In Kiev, Ukraine!


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00:00:00.000 Suffered a heart attack when he was hearing explosions in Kiev is something he's probably never heard before.
00:00:05.560 But why would they lie about that? Why would they?
00:00:09.260 Why do they lie about anything? I mean, show me, you know, we just talked about how they're lying about the Strait of Hormuz being open.
00:00:17.260 Yeah, but that's one more lie.
00:00:19.520 Yeah, I'm saying usually there's a reason to lie. You want to lie to make it seem you're winning a war to manipulate markets.
00:00:25.920 Yeah. So why you want to admit that you're the number one senator proponent of Ukraine died in Ukraine.
00:00:33.480 In the aftermath of the Russian military strikes, that doesn't fit the narrative too well.
00:00:40.160 And all I can tell you is I've also heard from people with had access to the Pentagon, to generals in the command center, national military command center.
00:00:50.100 They were walking around talking today saying he died and he died in Kiev.
00:00:54.060 when did he
00:00:56.020 visit the drone factory
00:00:58.160 I'm curious
00:00:58.760 can you tell me again
00:01:00.040 Friday afternoon
00:01:01.920 but I don't know the time
00:01:03.200 so if you've got
00:01:05.620 Friday afternoon
00:01:06.180 so
00:01:06.520 let me see
00:01:08.160 because he might have
00:01:10.780 visited
00:01:11.040 so when do you think
00:01:12.200 he left
00:01:12.580 Kiev to Poland
00:01:14.260 the earliest he could have
00:01:17.240 left would have been
00:01:17.920 the following morning
00:01:19.860 Saturday morning
00:01:20.500 but again think
00:01:21.120 why would Graham
00:01:23.040 fly 20 hours fly and take a train for 20 plus hours to do just a tour of a drone factory
00:01:30.940 and then the next morning get back up and repeat that whole 20 21 hour journey
00:01:37.780 and this is supposedly lindsey graham at the hospital footage of some ambulances
00:01:43.760 at a hospital saying it's lindsey graham is no proof at all trump saying he got a call from
00:01:50.440 Lindsey Graham, right before he died of a heart attack Saturday night, is no proof at all. I don't
00:01:55.860 think Trump's that level of a liar. He certainly spins things now. He used to be very accurate. 0.83
00:02:01.280 But you can easily, again, call somebody with a fake AI call. That's been going on for many years
00:02:05.160 now, where they'll record a girl that's on YouTube who's 10 years old, or even be able to record her
00:02:10.200 once she's kidnapped, just a few minutes of it. Then you can program AI to have a conversation
00:02:14.140 and call up the mother and say, Mom, help me. I need money wired here. They're going to kill me
00:02:19.420 right now. And in some cases, your daughter or son is not even kidnapped. That's the level of
00:02:24.460 this, folks. And I'm not saying that's what's happened here. I'm not saying Graham didn't
00:02:28.120 die of an aorta rupture. That's the Widowmaker. I'm just saying with everything going on here, 0.99
00:02:33.460 we've got to investigate because you got to verify stuff now because of it. And then you get Larry
00:02:39.060 Johnson, who trains the Pentagon at the highest levels and Army Special Operations and the rest
00:02:46.360 of them on counterterrorism and basically wrote the book for them, when you read his bio, just
00:02:53.620 other people's bio on him, it's not him saying that about himself. He says, yeah, I got my
00:02:57.420 Pentagon sources. They say he died in Kiev. He's not going to say that because he knows those
00:03:02.100 people talk to him. You start making stuff up, they never talk to you again. He didn't just say
00:03:08.080 that. Now, maybe the Pentagon's wrong. Maybe those generals are wrong, or maybe what they were told
00:03:14.900 wasn't true or maybe they were speculating like we all are because it doesn't make sense but
00:03:21.160 the larry johnson thing is a big deal real time uncensored unstoppable alex jones live.com
00:03:31.660 take a stand share the link do you want to fight you better believe you got one a lot of evidence
00:03:40.720 points towards Graham actually being in Ukraine. He wouldn't just go there for one day and fly
00:03:45.500 back. He wouldn't have been able to go on the 12-hour train trip. He did fly commercial. He
00:03:51.160 got in trouble for using government money before to do it and violating laws. It would have taken
00:03:56.220 him 12 hours to get back to Poland. Then he would have had to have flown back at least seven hours
00:03:59.800 to the United States. We have a grainy photo from TMZ, supposedly an ambulance, out front of his
00:04:04.880 house. There's also video of the FBI yesterday at his house going back and forth, bringing things
00:04:13.220 in and out. And he may have gotten back magically. This story may be true. But Larry Johnson is a
00:04:23.580 former counterterrorism head, very respected from the CIA and the State Department. And he has come
00:04:30.800 out and said that his Pentagon sources very high up were saying they believe he was killed in
00:04:39.940 Ukraine. And Larry Johnson has about a nine percent accuracy rate. He doesn't talk out of
00:04:45.060 his rear end. Now, that's what he heard. I believe he heard that. I'm not saying that that is the 0.97
00:04:52.060 case. And now we've got some reported footage that has come out at the House as well. But we
00:04:58.000 got to line up these timelines of that he was at a secret drone factory and then he left and then
00:05:05.240 a few hours later it got hit and then the hotel he was reportedly stayed at that has a bunch of
00:05:09.980 NATO people uh got hit the Russians back in May 25th warned all NATO countries including the U.S.
00:05:18.620 your diplomats and politicians out Trump says he talked to him right before he died
00:05:23.480 Saturday night. So I don't know, but we're going to be looking at that. We have the man that came
00:05:33.300 in second place against Lindsey Graham in the recent senatorial race in South Carolina. He's
00:05:39.340 got the inside baseball and what's happening with Graham dead. Races are on for both temporary and
00:05:44.140 permanent Senate successors. A scramble for power has already begun after Lindsey Graham's death.
00:05:50.540 We'll be getting to all of that with our guests for the first 30 minutes of the next hour.
00:05:54.560 Then Nick Shirley is scheduled to get here.
00:05:56.400 We're going to the other studio where I do interviews and cover all that live right here today. 0.89
00:06:03.580 But the first thing I want to get to is Lindsey Graham.
00:06:08.920 And I want to be clear.
00:06:11.960 We've been lied to so much about so many things.
00:06:14.400 it is reasonable not to just believe the official story that he flew back from Ukraine Saturday
00:06:23.440 night, had a conversation with Trump, Trump says. How does Trump know that's not even AI? You can
00:06:28.340 have conversations that totally fool you on the phone. About three years ago, I got a call
00:06:31.720 from Tucker Carlson, sounded just like him, but then he started saying obscene things to me. And
00:06:36.800 I said, this is AI, isn't it? And the AI said, you bet it is. Then some comedian in Canada
00:06:43.920 that explained how he spoofed Tucker's number, got my number, and then called me with AI that
00:06:49.120 he had programmed to talk to me. So how does Trump not know he didn't get an AI call? That's
00:06:55.680 what's so crazy. That's what's so insane about all of this. So that's coming up as well in all
00:07:05.180 the other news as it breaks and as it unfolds. So we have Graham, and we'll show you the image
00:07:13.180 of him out there supposedly in the ambulance from TMZ
00:07:16.660 and the other footage we just showed.
00:07:18.900 And maybe that's the case.
00:07:20.960 But we have him going over there for just a day,
00:07:27.020 and then he goes and tours a drone factory,
00:07:32.480 secret one in Kiev,
00:07:34.600 and then that drone factory gets blown up hours later,
00:07:38.560 and so does the hotel he's in.
00:07:39.840 and then you look at the timeline it would be very hard if impossible for him on how they said
00:07:48.220 he flew in and was flying out out of poland with a 12-hour ride and trump's talked about that
00:07:54.120 on train and then a seven-hour flight back to dc at least i mean it's about seven hours actually
00:08:01.760 from dc to london so i guess it'd be about seven hours about an extra hour how could how how could
00:08:08.660 that be? I don't know. I just know that the Russians said back in May, we're going to start
00:08:14.660 hitting diplomats, politicians, anybody comes to Ukraine, we're going to bomb them. So don't come 0.94
00:08:20.120 here. Now, here is Larry Johnson. I want to show you his bio, Larry Johnson. And you can go read
00:08:32.600 the bio on him. Larry Johnson worked previously with the Central Intelligence Agency and the
00:08:38.200 U.S. State Department's Office of Counterterrorism.
00:08:40.920 He's a recognized expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, crisis, and risk
00:08:47.160 management.
00:08:49.020 He ran major operations.
00:08:53.080 He also served as the deputy director in the U.S. State Department's Office of Counterterrorism.
00:08:56.600 He managed crisis response to major events around the world, terrorist incidents throughout
00:09:01.240 the world, and helped organize and direct U.S. counter-government debriefing of U.S.
00:09:06.900 citizens held in Kuwait and Iraq, which provided vital intelligence.
00:09:10.060 It just goes on with his long bio at the CIA and the State Department and his appearances
00:09:15.640 and being an advisor to all the big corporate media and major corporations and being the
00:09:21.940 CEO and co-founder of Berg Associates International Business Consulting and all the different
00:09:26.620 big organizations he's a part of and all of his sources and running big international
00:09:30.580 exercises for the U.S. military commands, training U.S. special operations in counterterrorism,
00:09:36.900 and basically writing the book on a lot of the modern stuff they do.
00:09:40.280 So you go spend hours reading about Larry Johnson.
00:09:41.860 He's been on the show before.
00:09:43.080 He's got about a 99% accuracy rate.
00:09:45.580 And here is Larry Johnson on TV yesterday
00:09:51.940 talking on the internet on a program
00:09:55.980 about what he's hearing from his military sources.
00:10:01.100 And basically the generals think and heard that he died in Ukraine.
00:10:06.900 but Trump doesn't want to escalate things, and Trump's been critical of Graham going over there
00:10:12.600 and undercutting him, and he even said that publicly, lobbying for expansion of the war
00:10:17.440 when Trump wants to end the war. Trump even called in to Fox News and some other shows
00:10:22.560 and talked about that yesterday. I played those clips on the Sunday show if you want to go see
00:10:27.100 those. So if he was killed over there, I'm not defending it, but I could see why they go,
00:10:33.920 oh, my God, this would be a huge escalation.
00:10:35.880 We don't want this, but there's a lot of bad guys in the system
00:10:38.420 that want an expanded war who would probably leak the fact
00:10:42.980 that, indeed, he was killed over there.
00:10:44.900 So I don't know, but we need a clear timeline on this,
00:10:49.340 and it needs to be investigated.
00:10:53.600 So here's Larry Johnson.
00:10:56.760 Suffered a heart attack when he was hearing explosions in Kiev
00:10:59.740 is something he's probably never heard before.
00:11:02.160 Well, why would they lie about that?
00:11:03.420 Why would they?
00:11:06.000 Why do they lie about anything?
00:11:08.180 I mean, show me, you know, we just talked about how they're lying about the Strait of Hormuz being open.
00:11:14.020 Yeah, but that's one more lie.
00:11:16.280 Yeah, I'm saying usually there's a reason to lie.
00:11:18.980 You want to lie to make it seem you're winning a war, to manipulate markets.
00:11:23.100 Yeah, so why?
00:11:24.300 You want to admit that you're the number one senator, proponent of Ukraine, died in Ukraine in the aftermath of the Russian military strikes?
00:11:33.420 Well, that doesn't fit the narrative too well.
00:11:36.960 And all I can tell you is I've also heard from people who had access to the Pentagon,
00:11:42.820 to generals in the command center, National Military Command Center.
00:11:47.140 They were walking around talking today saying he died in Kiev.
00:11:52.300 But when did he visit the drone factory? I'm curious. Can you tell me again?
00:11:57.740 Friday afternoon, but I don't know the time.
00:11:59.740 so if you've got a front afternoon so let me see um because he might have visited so you
00:12:08.260 when do you think he left uh kiev to poland the earliest he could have left would have been
00:12:14.680 the following morning saturday morning but again think why would graham fly 20 hours fly and take
00:12:23.260 a train for 20 plus hours to do just a tour of a drone factory and then the next morning get back
00:12:30.240 up and repeat that whole 20 21 hour journey and this is supposedly lindsey graham at the hospital
00:12:38.940 remember all over the western world from germany to the u.s from canada to australia
00:12:45.220 they showed people in hazmat suits with big lines of people trying to get into hospitals
00:12:49.580 that were actually empty. They wouldn't take regular heart attack or cancer patients. They
00:12:53.420 would just have special floors where they would get $53,000 to put you on a ventilator and kill 0.96
00:12:58.260 you. And they would have fake groups going to the hospitals. So footage of some ambulances
00:13:03.240 at a hospital saying it's Lindsey Graham is no proof at all. Trump saying he got a call from
00:13:09.920 Lindsey Graham right before he died of a heart attack Saturday night is no proof at all. I don't
00:13:15.340 think Trump's that level of a liar. He certainly spins things now. He used to be very accurate. 0.83
00:13:20.760 But you can easily, again, call somebody with a fake AI call. That's been going on for many years
00:13:24.620 now, where they'll record a girl that's on YouTube who's 10 years old, or even be able to record her
00:13:29.680 once she's kidnapped, just a few minutes of it. Then you can program AI to have a conversation
00:13:33.620 and call up the mother and say, Mom, help me. I need money wired here. They're going to kill me
00:13:38.900 right now. And in some cases, your daughter or son is not even kidnapped. By the way, this happened
00:13:44.940 to one of my lawyers, I'm not going to say his name here in Austin, to a state judge on one of
00:13:50.800 the appellate courts a year ago. They said, your son's kidnapped. We're going to kill him. Here he
00:13:55.860 is. Talk to him. And then he was smart enough to, you know, call and find his son. And it wasn't
00:14:03.640 true. But that's the level of this, folks. And I'm not saying that's what's happened here. I'm
00:14:09.060 not saying Graham didn't die of an aorta rupture. That's the widowmaker. I'm just saying with
00:14:14.260 everything going on here, we've got to investigate because you've got to verify stuff now because of
00:14:19.720 it. And then you get Larry Johnson, who trains the Pentagon at the highest levels and Army
00:14:26.920 Special Operations and the rest of them on counterterrorism and basically wrote the book
00:14:31.660 for them. When you read his bio, just other people's bio on him, it's not him saying that
00:14:37.460 about himself. He says, yeah, I got my Pentagon sources. They say he died in Kiev. He's not going
00:14:41.840 to say that because he knows those people talk to him. You start making stuff up, they never talk
00:14:47.740 to you again. He didn't just say that. Now, maybe the Pentagon's wrong. Maybe those generals are
00:14:54.880 wrong, or maybe what they were told wasn't true, or maybe they were speculating like we all are
00:15:01.140 because it doesn't make sense. But the Larry Johnson thing is a big deal. In fact, I don't
00:15:08.680 normally play things twice in a row i got a lot more on this but but but let's play it again
00:15:12.860 listen to this here it is
00:15:15.600 suffered a heart attack when he was hearing explosions in kiev
00:15:20.300 is something he's probably never heard before but why would they lie about that why would they
00:15:24.620 what do they lie about anything i mean show me you know we just talked about how they're lying
00:15:31.760 about the strait of hormuz being open yeah but that's one more lie yeah i'm saying usually there's
00:15:38.220 a reason to lie. You want to lie to make it seem
00:15:40.460 you're winning a war, to manipulate
00:15:42.420 markets, etc.
00:15:44.200 You want to admit that you're the
00:15:46.320 number one senator, proponent of Ukraine
00:15:48.640 died in Ukraine
00:15:49.580 in the aftermath of the Russian
00:15:52.560 military strikes?
00:15:54.540 That doesn't fit the narrative too well.
00:15:57.700 And all I can
00:15:58.660 tell you is I've also heard from
00:16:00.540 people who had access to the Pentagon,
00:16:03.360 to generals in
00:16:04.660 the command center, National Military Command
00:16:06.460 center they were walking around talking today saying he had died and he died in kiev when did
00:16:13.180 he uh but when did he visit the drone factory i'm curious can you tell me again friday afternoon but
00:16:19.460 i don't know the time uh sorry if you've got friday afternoon so let me see um and he did
00:16:27.020 media appearances saturday morning when do you think he left uh kiev to poland
00:16:31.600 the earliest he could have left would have been
00:16:35.220 the following morning, Saturday morning.
00:16:37.860 But again, think, why would Graham fly 20 hours,
00:16:43.080 fly and take a train for 20-plus hours
00:16:45.260 to do just a tour of a drone factory
00:16:48.220 and then the next morning get back up
00:16:51.020 and repeat that whole 20, 21-hour journey?
00:16:56.860 And that's Larry Johnson on with Mario Nafal,
00:17:00.640 does an excellent job. All right, I'm going to go to break. I'm going to come back and look at
00:17:04.000 what Iran's up to with all of this, what they're saying. We'll tie it into the super escalation 1.00
00:17:10.060 with Iran and Trump saying, I'll do whatever it takes. I'll send in ground troops. I'm going to 0.64
00:17:14.020 open the strait. And then that's what Graham said in his last interview was we're ready to send in
00:17:18.580 troops. We ought to use nukes on them and we're ready to do all this. I mean, it's just beyond
00:17:23.740 insane. And we gave Iran the cards. Rubio's back out again saying the goal is to get it back 1.00
00:17:30.480 where it was before the strikes yeah when the strait was open and i ran into him an excuse to
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