The Alex Jones Show Live - August 19, 2026


⚠️WARNING: The Republican Party Under Trump's Leadership Is Facing Massive Defeat In The Midterms!


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00:00:00.000 This thing went awry after about five months when the lobby came into town and redirected
00:00:05.240 the president away from his focus on domestic policy.
00:00:08.880 And when that happened, the wheels came off.
00:00:11.360 I mean, right after Operation Midnight Hammer, they lost their generic valid lead.
00:00:15.760 The president had a chance to even tighten back up his approval and even go back positive
00:00:20.740 if he would have focused on the domestic.
00:00:22.600 That didn't happen.
00:00:23.360 So what I'm doing, I mean, beyond the top line numbers, Alex, I'm looking inside those
00:00:28.440 numbers to see, well, what is happening here? And this is the simple bit of it. And this is why,
00:00:33.560 you know, sometimes I give it with the bark on, but because it's frustrating, we speak to thousands
00:00:37.320 and thousands of people and the job has been more depressing this last year and a half than it's
00:00:42.500 ever been. These are younger people, particularly who, and by younger, I mean, not boomers, right?
00:00:48.860 I mean, there's some Gen X folks that are below 50 and down below 50. Let's go. Yeah, exactly.
00:00:54.280 Like people need to understand one thing first before we talk about the trends and what happened.
00:00:58.440 Donald Trump was not elected with a coalition of boomers.
00:01:02.460 Donald Trump actually did one point worse in 2024 with the 65 plus crowd than he did when he lost in 2020.
00:01:10.380 He was elected by people who are below 50 years old, swinging massively to Republicans, particularly millennial men and lower Gen X men.
00:01:19.740 And of course, Generation Z played a huge part in that.
00:01:22.880 He gave Republicans a tremendous opportunity to put together a coalition that represents the future.
00:01:28.920 And the problem with what has happened with the war and the agenda shifting away from the domestic is that's not what they wanted.
00:01:36.120 So all of the winning parts of his coalition have been stripped away.
00:01:40.420 The word isn't anger.
00:01:41.740 It was disappointment.
00:01:43.140 They were hurt by this.
00:01:44.660 I would call it betrayal.
00:01:45.820 I feel betrayed.
00:01:46.900 Betrayals cut deeper.
00:01:48.700 There's something about betrayals as a wound that just takes longer to heal.
00:01:52.460 It hurts. It's personal. It cuts deeper. It's personal. Right. And a lot of these voters and I tried to impress this on them.
00:02:00.800 These voters felt like you were their last chance. Many of them aren't even participatory voters.
00:02:07.440 They barely vote if they have ever voted before. They believed in you and they came out to give you a chance because they thought this is our only hope to reverse course and get this country back on track.
00:02:19.020 There's a lack of appreciation for that mindset for these voters.
00:02:22.820 Why did all of these millennials or 80s babies, all of these my generation, you were a hulkamaniac maybe when you were a kid.
00:02:30.700 Why did you all of a sudden snap out of it and decide you were going to vote for the first time?
00:02:35.280 Trump didn't do better even with suburban women because he changed more people's minds.
00:02:40.040 He didn't.
00:02:40.760 He brought out suburban women who don't vote.
00:02:43.620 That was the real fuel behind him doing better with white women in the suburbs.
00:02:48.720 And we can just keep going down the list. Young black men, Hispanics, Hispanic women, too, not just men.
00:02:55.100 This is what happened. And they did it almost out of desperation.
00:02:59.620 But because they saw the attacks on Trump, they're trying to throw him in jail.
00:03:03.980 They're going to lock, you know, lock him up and throw away the key. And they said, he's our guy.
00:03:08.360 The president was elected to be a domestic wartime president.
00:03:11.680 There were structural problems with our economy that got worse during COVID that he was elected to address.
00:03:19.220 Being a foreign policy president is a very easy trap to get into.
00:03:22.900 But unfortunately, that's not how D.C. works.
00:03:25.640 They can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
00:03:27.820 Either the blob and the deep state and the foreign policy establishment gets their agenda or you get yours.
00:03:33.680 Those of us who have been doing this as long as I have and longer, many people have been doing it even longer, know that.
00:03:39.900 It's just the way it is.
00:03:41.060 It's the unfortunate reality of D.C., and they have got to pivot back to the economy because look at yesterday in Pennsylvania.
00:03:48.880 We lost another state legislature.
00:03:52.060 They're worried.
00:03:52.560 I just came back, by the way, from Bucks County.
00:03:54.700 I took a six-state battleground state tour in the last six weeks.
00:03:58.240 They are worried about getting wiped out.
00:04:00.180 When you get wiped out like this, as bad as they can, they're facing in Pennsylvania, it is almost – it's incredibly difficult.
00:04:06.460 It's not possible.
00:04:07.060 It's incredibly difficult to rebuild from the ground up.
00:04:09.720 You lose your donor base.
00:04:10.820 You lose all of your your get out the vote base from your local local electives that are in office.
00:04:16.060 The hour is late. And I'm telling you, this election is I wish I would have wrote the book sooner, Alex.
00:04:21.840 I really I really do. But, you know, sometimes you're limited by your own schedule.
00:04:25.860 But this entire narrative, making sure that we cater to this.
00:04:29.760 Yes, we have to burn it down and make sure we cater to this new majority that is coming.
00:04:34.920 You may not care about them in a midterm, but you better because from the future, you know, moving on.
00:04:40.060 It's 10 years max is about, right, what you said.
00:04:43.720 It's only going to get worse from this point forward.
00:04:46.420 Let's have a complete reversal here.
00:04:48.240 Let's try to salvage what we can and move forward and rebuild
00:04:51.000 because this is not the way forward.
00:04:52.620 We're going to get wiped out.
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00:05:00.700 Take a stand.
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00:05:08.080 All right, I send the crew literally hundreds of articles, documents, videos every day,
00:05:13.040 but they also bring me videos, and then I'll just watch them during the break.
00:05:17.320 And just looking at the guy, I didn't recognize him, so I said,
00:05:19.780 well, I don't know who this guy is, but he's really accurate and well-spoken.
00:05:22.300 People say, you don't know who Richard Barris is?
00:05:23.860 Yeah, I've followed him for at least a decade, and he may have even been on the show before.
00:05:27.520 I don't remember, but I feel like I know him.
00:05:28.980 But he's with us, and he's seen as one of the top pollsters year after year.
00:05:33.360 You can just pull that up for yourself.
00:05:35.220 He's a best-selling author as well.
00:05:37.300 the new book, Burn It Down. And he's got a bunch of polls here for you about the Iran war,
00:05:44.020 about Trump's approval, about what's happening. He's a really smart, eloquent guy. Richard Barris,
00:05:48.760 the People's Pundit, is the director of Big Data Poll and author of the new book, Burn It Down,
00:05:53.340 what the polls say young Americans really want people underscore pundit on X. I'm not going to
00:06:00.020 read over his whole bio, but Richard D. Barris, known as the People's Pundit, director of Big
00:06:05.060 data poll, the host of Inside the Numbers with the People's Pundit. He's the independent pollster
00:06:08.600 widely recognized for advocacy and accuracy and transparency in the Trump era. He was the only
00:06:13.460 national and state pollster to correctly predict Donald Trump's 2016 with the 306 electoral votes
00:06:19.360 and he nailed it and was again cited as one of the most accurate national pollsters in 2024
00:06:23.760 with state polling projection, a Trump victory with 312 electoral votes. His work emphasizes
00:06:28.580 innovative methodologies, large sample sizes, demographic trend tracking, and radical transparency.
00:06:35.000 Barris is also co-author of the book Burn It Down,
00:06:38.240 What the Polls Say Young Americans Really Want.
00:06:40.220 And we're honored to have him here today.
00:06:43.180 But here's the clip I was just shown during a break.
00:06:44.960 I said, yeah, that guy's accurate.
00:06:46.020 I don't know who that is.
00:06:46.760 I didn't say it on the screen.
00:06:48.600 And people were like, you idiot.
00:06:49.440 That's Richard Barris.
00:06:50.260 Yeah, I know who he is.
00:06:51.400 So some mea culpa there.
00:06:53.220 But let's play the clip that got me to want to get him on.
00:06:56.140 I'm glad he could come on so soon.
00:06:57.700 Hopefully one of many visits because I'm a big fan.
00:07:00.120 Here it is.
00:07:01.220 So don't worry, Tucker.
00:07:02.780 You can come back.
00:07:03.680 Don't worry, Joe. You can come back. Don't worry, Marjorie. You can come back. Don't worry, Thomas. You can come back. Don't worry, Alex. You can come back. Don't worry, Marjorie. You can come back. What do all these people have in common? They're either OG MAGA or they represent what was truly new MAGA in 24. And they brought along the numbers that got us a winning coalition.
00:07:22.960 All of these other people out there, they dismiss these criticisms and these people fracturing off. You act like you had a 10-point popular vote win or something. You don't. And let me just give everybody a little bit of a stat, and then I'll kick it back to you because this is real, and these people can destroy the Republican Party if they choose to do so.
00:07:41.860 So instead of, you know, mocking them and making fun of them, you should be trying to figure out how to court them back because you chase them away for a tiny parasitic sliver of the coalition.
00:07:52.880 Neocons are nothing. They are. They're literally dying right in front of our faces.
00:07:56.540 People. Lindsey Graham just corked off out of nowhere. Mitch McConnell is still alive, but he's not.
00:08:03.420 OK, they're literally dying in front of our face and you're sacrificing the future coalition, the future of America, our future ability to win elections for these dinosaurs who are going extinct.
00:08:16.400 And the truth is, the comet has been heading to Earth for years.
00:08:19.500 They just never saw it coming because they're too stupid and too old to see it.
00:08:23.840 So absolutely.
00:08:25.640 And I totally agree with everything you said there.
00:08:27.620 A little bit different angle to that.
00:08:29.300 Looking at the same problem doesn't mean he's wrong.
00:08:31.440 It means different angle.
00:08:32.660 I don't want to be part of MAGA with the insider trading and all the corruption.
00:08:36.200 Yeah, it was destructive.
00:08:37.060 Let the neocons come in, the never Trumpers, and have Trump then try to push us out and
00:08:41.760 turn constituents against us.
00:08:43.400 All it did was turn most people off against Trump because I talk to people on the ground
00:08:47.160 and I see stuff like we sell Trump T-shirts.
00:08:50.020 We used to be one of our best sellers.
00:08:51.520 About a year ago, it started to slow down.
00:08:53.100 Now we sell basically no Trump gear at the AlexShoneStore.com.
00:08:56.620 And all these big Trump businesses and Trump paraphernalia stuff are out of business, okay?
00:09:00.700 So I don't need a pollster
00:09:02.520 Though those are important
00:09:03.400 It's on the ground intelligence that tells me
00:09:06.600 But Trump is so pig-headed
00:09:07.740 I don't see him in a mea copa
00:09:10.020 Not that we want to be back under his wings
00:09:11.820 I mean, I refused an offer a year ago
00:09:13.700 To go to Mar-a-Lago, I already had problems
00:09:15.280 I wasn't mean about it
00:09:17.280 I just, you know, I want to affect Trump
00:09:19.060 I don't want to be in his orbit
00:09:21.800 But is it a day late, a dollar short
00:09:23.540 To go over all these incredible trends
00:09:25.180 Is the people's pundit, Richard Barris
00:09:27.240 Barris, thanks for being here
00:09:28.140 Hey, thanks for having me, Alex
00:09:30.380 It's good to be here. Well, you're a smart guy. I can ask a million questions, but I got a lot of questions and angles.
00:09:35.440 But where where should we start here? You know, what you were saying before, I don't I don't want to be in MAGA.
00:09:41.320 I think that's the story, which is what even is MAGA anymore, because I think it's just disingenuous and dishonest to argue that people elected Donald Trump because they expected the agenda that they got here.
00:09:55.640 You know, after about, what, three to five months, he was really hardcore focused on the domestic in the beginning.
00:10:01.520 And you can see it in our numbers. I mean, the data is crystal clear.
00:10:05.580 So the apologists or whatever you want to call them at this point, their argument isn't supported by any data points whatsoever.
00:10:13.200 It got this thing went awry after about five months when the lobby came into town and redirected the president away from his focus on domestic policy.
00:10:21.900 And when that happened, the wheels came off.
00:10:24.620 I mean, right after Operation Midnight Hammer, they lost their generic ballot lead.
00:10:29.180 The president had a chance to even tighten back up his approval and even go back positive if he would have focused on the domestic.
00:10:36.000 That didn't happen. So what I'm doing, I mean, beyond the top line numbers, Alex, I'm looking inside those numbers to see, well, what is happening here?
00:10:44.440 And this is the simple bit of it. And this is why, you know, sometimes I give it with the bark on, but because it's frustrating.
00:10:49.720 We speak to thousands and thousands of people, and the job has been more depressing this last year and a half than it's ever been.
00:10:56.960 These are younger people particularly who – and by younger, I mean not boomers, right?
00:11:02.260 I mean there's some Gen X folks that are on the lower end of that.
00:11:05.200 Below 50. 50 and down.
00:11:05.920 Below 50. Let's go – yeah, exactly.
00:11:07.800 Like people need to understand one thing first before we talk about the trends and what happened.
00:11:12.220 Donald Trump was not elected with a coalition of boomers.
00:11:15.320 Donald Trump actually did one point worse in 2024 with the 65 plus crowd than he did when he lost in 2020.
00:11:23.760 He was elected by people who are below 50 years old, swinging massively to Republicans, particularly millennial men and lower Gen X men.
00:11:33.400 And of course, Generation Z played a huge part in that.
00:11:36.360 He gave Republicans a tremendous opportunity to put together a coalition that represents the future.
00:11:42.080 And the problem with what has happened with the war and the agenda shifting away from the domestic is that's not what they wanted.
00:11:49.320 So all of the winning parts of his coalition have been stripped away.
00:11:54.120 And as this has been happening, their response has not been the right response.
00:11:59.240 It's go out and attack Alex Jones.
00:12:00.820 It's go out and attack Tucker Carlson and the guy's show that I was on that you played.
00:12:04.900 Frank from Quite Frankly, he's exactly that demographic.
00:12:07.620 His audience is that demographic.
00:12:09.600 And their their response has been to belittle people or browbeat them or attempt to, you know, browbeat them in the submission.
00:12:16.580 Well, you're acting like you won with a 10 point popular vote victory.
00:12:20.340 You didn't. And by the way, our national poll in 24 was the most accurate.
00:12:25.320 We edged out The Wall Street Journal by 0.1 percent.
00:12:28.840 So we know exactly who voted for Donald Trump and all of the winning parts, the younger, the non-white, the overlap into non-college voters that you cannot reach with white voters alone.
00:12:38.820 All of that has been stripped away
00:12:40.980 And that's tragic
00:12:42.880 It's like been watching a Greek tragedy over here, Alex
00:12:45.440 And screaming at the top of my lungs
00:12:47.120 Trying to get people to listen
00:12:48.320 But I don't know
00:12:49.520 I'm not going to try to get it into somebody's head
00:12:52.160 But it's not as if he doesn't understand this
00:12:54.840 And I think some of the reaction from the White House
00:12:57.100 Has just been frustration
00:12:58.340 That was my next question
00:13:00.880 Do you have any idea
00:13:02.600 Because if I was John Podesta
00:13:04.800 Really the brand of the DNC still
00:13:06.540 And I could possess Trump
00:13:08.160 and make him say things I wanted, I would say, Mr. President, do you care about the average
00:13:12.160 American's economic problems? No, I don't care about any problems or anything the American people
00:13:16.140 have economically. I only care about war. I don't care about Medicare and Medicaid. I don't care
00:13:19.300 about child care. Oh, his own surrogates. Oh, you don't like $20 burritos? You're a pussy.
00:13:28.080 Oil prices are a little big. You can handle it. You can deal with it. Oh, inflation's been fixed.
00:13:32.820 is not a problem. And it just goes on and on and on with if I was a Democrat wanting to possess him
00:13:39.620 to self-destruct, he would be doing what he's doing. And then any idiot would tell you, do not
00:13:46.200 go after your main constituents, even if you're not going to do what they want. Don't say if you
00:13:50.980 care about Epstein, you're an idiot and you're not MAGA. And I mean, just we saw the slide,
00:13:56.380 like you said, about four to five months in, it was phenomenal what he was doing. It was so good,
00:14:01.100 I couldn't believe it. And then it just started going sideways and getting worse and worse and
00:14:06.420 worse and worse. And now I've known from sources it's dawned on them. But I think it's a day late,
00:14:11.760 a dollar short. I don't know what Trump does once the Democrats win the House bare minimum
00:14:15.120 and they come after him and insider trading and insider deals that would make Nancy Pelosi blush.
00:14:22.100 I mean, I said it back when he called me a bad person and fried and low IQ. I said,
00:14:27.360 thank you. Please make it clear, because I'm not embarrassed. I support him in the past.
00:14:30.860 that was a different Trump. The left said, oh, Jones admits he was always wrong. No,
00:14:34.040 that was a different Trump. But I am so pleased. I said, please say you hate me. Separate me from
00:14:39.940 you because I can look down the road here, even if he pardons the whole administration,
00:14:43.460 like he said he would do. This is going to be, it will no longer be Ulysses Grant that was known
00:14:49.780 as the greatest insider fraudster robbing the treasury. Trump is going to go down now. I don't
00:14:54.560 see any way you slice it as an absolute pariah. And like you said, it's a Greek tragedy to have
00:14:59.180 everything going for you and then on a dime destroy yourself after what is i mean arguably
00:15:05.940 i think it is the greatest comeback not only in american political history but i think period in
00:15:12.660 history because of what he was up against you know in the ancient era you could look at some
00:15:16.140 of these leaders who came back after you know being ostracized or banished or in exile um but
00:15:21.380 back then you could just alex raise an army and come back and that's it donald trump had to do
00:15:25.560 this through the institutions and defeat the institutions. And what he did, he didn't do
00:15:31.000 alone. He did it with a large coalition, the most impressive that we've seen since Reagan put
00:15:37.740 together his coalition for a Republican. He got more Hispanic votes than any Republican president
00:15:43.080 ever. He beat George Bush as far as the percentage of the Hispanic vote share that he got, which
00:15:47.940 George Bush's was always overstated. But I think somewhere along the line, a bunch of people forgot
00:15:53.020 that this is a group effort. This is not a one man thing. And you can't just dismiss the concerns
00:15:59.540 of all of these people. And it's important to understand that 24 was an A-B test. They looked
00:16:05.320 back at some of the things that happened in the first Trump administration that back then we used
00:16:09.020 to call them the seasick voters. They just didn't like all the turmoil. He was elected to go in
00:16:13.400 there like a wrecking ball and start wrecking stuff. But once a lot of Americans saw it happening
00:16:17.620 and they saw the system's response to Trump, they didn't like it. You know, the collusion hoax,
00:16:22.500 It's too much.
00:16:23.440 But he finally had a climate where people did want the wrecking ball, and instead he jumped into the swamp and made love to it.
00:16:31.060 And that's where I was going with this.
00:16:33.360 The American voter, including all of these younger people that don't vote Republican, they had concluded we got duped.
00:16:40.460 We got duped by the Democrats.
00:16:41.800 We got duped by the deep state.
00:16:42.960 We got duped by the media, and we want our Trump back.
00:16:45.680 But they wanted their Trump back.
00:16:47.980 They didn't want a new version of Donald Trump, and the environment was ripe.
00:16:52.500 For him to come in and do in 2024 what he started in 2016, which you know and I both know he earnestly tried to do, and that's why the system pushed back so hard against him.
00:17:03.080 Folks, if somebody goes to D.C. and the system isn't pushing back anymore, it should be a massive red flag to you.
00:17:10.580 It means they're not worried.
00:17:13.200 They're not concerned.
00:17:14.600 And after about five months or so, the noise started quieting down, and what?
00:17:19.920 I mean, it's a bipartisan consensus in Washington, D.C. to start some of these regime change wars, which, by the way, they got under Biden.
00:17:28.780 There was the Russo-Ukrainian war that started.
00:17:31.040 The Middle East lit a fire again.
00:17:32.900 And voters were looking back and comparing this to, you know what, maybe it wasn't so bad when Donald Trump met with Vladimir Putin.
00:17:38.980 Maybe we should shelve the Russia phobia for a second and put an adult in the room, a dealmaker like Donald Trump.
00:17:44.200 Maybe that wasn't that bad.
00:17:45.820 The Abraham Accords, that wasn't that bad.
00:17:48.140 Donald Trump had the Middle East settle down. He had the international system stable.
00:17:53.420 And Joe Biden comes around. He was supposed to be the adult in the room and he blows it all up.
00:17:57.900 Everything's on fire. Afghan withdrawals a disaster. There's a war in Eastern Europe.
00:18:02.140 There's fires burning all over, raging across the Middle East.
00:18:05.420 We want Donald Trump back and we want him back because he'll put all that out and he'll focus on our needs at home.
00:18:11.180 And the dismissing of the concerns on by some people, it's not just the administration here.
00:18:17.100 There's clearly an effort by the neocon faction to dismiss the concerns of these younger voters who made them winners.
00:18:24.420 So when I say they're parasites, this is what I mean.
00:18:28.040 Neocons could never go in front of the American people and say, this is what we stand for.
00:18:33.440 Vote for us and win an election, Alex.
00:18:35.840 It's impossible.
00:18:36.940 They're done.
00:18:37.960 That era is over.
00:18:39.200 The post 9-11 mindset of being scared because it's it's a it's a crisis and we were under attack and we'll believe in the nightly terror alert level threat level.
00:18:49.820 Exactly. That is over, Alex. Exactly. They don't believe it. Millennials, they're not myth believers.
00:18:55.980 They're they're much more based in the real world with their thinking and their political thinking because they have real issues to deal with.
00:19:03.220 So let me ask you this, because I could hear you talk for 10 hours. You're dead on. Yeah. But it's important postmortem.
00:19:09.200 What do you think the shift was?
00:19:10.640 Because he perfectly came out and said things that would hurt him,
00:19:14.140 would hurt his base.
00:19:15.800 Did it come out of his brain?
00:19:17.060 Who advised him?
00:19:17.640 He said it was Mark Levin and others.
00:19:19.780 Why attack your base?
00:19:20.840 Why say the whole Epstein thing's a hoax?
00:19:23.000 Why say, I don't care about your economic problems.
00:19:25.500 I don't even think about you.
00:19:27.060 Why do all this when he's not stupid?
00:19:31.500 And I know people told him, you're going to destroy yourself.
00:19:33.940 Why did he do it?
00:19:34.700 It sounds like he made a deal.
00:19:36.160 It sounds like he was compromised, and he was told,
00:19:38.200 you go out and you do these things to totally separate yourself from these people you have to
00:19:42.200 destroy your own base because the democrats always said once we get rid of trump we got to demolish
00:19:47.000 his base so i think they made a deal and said you have to demolish your base now with this civil war
00:19:52.160 i'm being cynical here but if trump does have this 3d chess they clearly had to do it on purpose or
00:19:57.080 he's not as smart as we were told i mean i know a lot of people who do have that you know who do
00:20:02.740 have that suspicion you know i hate to try to get in somebody's head but i do look at this i mean
00:20:07.900 Alex, the man's been shot at multiple times. He was a president. They took that from him and he effectively, you know, there's a pandemic unleashed on the world.
00:20:17.260 They used it as an excuse to change our moratorium and put moratoriums on verification procedures for the elections.
00:20:22.960 He finds himself under 91 indictments. They got chains on Trump Tower.
00:20:28.700 You start if you're a man like Donald Trump, you've got to start to worry about what happens to your family, like in the future.
00:20:34.420 And when you're I know I would. And I say this and people get mad at me.
00:20:38.400 Like you're making excuses for him. I'm not. He's been through a lot.
00:20:41.800 You're trying to track actually what happens. And it looks like he finally made a deal.
00:20:45.540 Because notice, as soon as he made that deal, which clearly he did, suddenly the police were protecting his properties.
00:20:51.260 Suddenly the heat got pulled back about 90 percent. Go ahead.
00:20:54.900 Yeah. I mean, look, he's not dumb. We can rule that out.
00:20:58.440 Rush Limbaugh had issued a really stark warning to him before he passed away.
00:21:02.980 And he gave a version of that live on air on his last broadcast.
00:21:07.200 And it basically goes a little something like this.
00:21:09.480 Look, you can survive the FBI coming after you.
00:21:12.620 You can survive the media coming after you.
00:21:15.060 No third party or outside external force can come in and break the bond that you have with your voters.
00:21:20.920 This is something that's personal and it cannot be broken because they see you as their champion.
00:21:26.320 The only way you can break it is if you do it yourself.
00:21:29.540 And by doing something like, if you don't shut up about Epstein, I don't want your support anymore.
00:21:37.800 Look, that angered a bunch of people, and anger is always the word people go to.
00:21:41.440 But as a pollster listening to people, I always review.
00:21:44.980 First of all, I still interview myself.
00:21:46.960 I go through transcripts of other agents that do interviews for us.
00:21:50.640 And I'm constantly listening in and eavesdropping on what people are saying.
00:21:54.340 And we also have a part in our interviews where we give people some time to to lay out why they answered the way they did on the questionnaire.
00:22:01.380 And the word isn't anger. It was disappointment. They were hurt by this.
00:22:06.200 I would call it betrayal. I feel betrayed.
00:22:08.700 I feel like and then let's imagine it's a fight and that's a left jab and you tee the guy up and you pop him in the chin with the left jab.
00:22:16.560 And his chin is there ready to be, you know, ready exposed.
00:22:19.740 And then you come in with the overhand right. That's the Iran bombing Operation Midnight Hammer.
00:22:25.700 And it's just a one-two punch that put MAGA down. And betrayals cut deeper.
00:22:30.640 There's something about betrayals as a wound that just takes longer to heal.
00:22:34.280 It hurts. It stains more. It cuts deeper. It's personal. Right.
00:22:38.840 And a lot of these voters, and I tried to impress this on them, these voters felt like you were their last chance.
00:22:46.000 Many of them aren't even participatory voters.
00:22:49.060 They barely vote if they have ever voted before.
00:22:52.020 They believed in you.
00:22:53.140 And they came out to give you a chance because they thought this is our only hope to reverse course and get this country back on track.
00:23:00.660 There's a lack of appreciation for that mindset for these voters.
00:23:04.620 Why did all of these millennials or 80s babies, all of these my generation, you were a hulkamaniac maybe when you were a kid.
00:23:12.060 Why did you all of a sudden snap out of it and decide you were going to vote for the first time?
00:23:16.980 Trump didn't do better even with suburban women because he changed more people's minds.
00:23:21.700 He didn't.
00:23:22.440 He brought out suburban women who don't vote.
00:23:25.060 That was the real fuel behind him doing better with white women in the suburbs.
00:23:30.560 And we can just keep going down the list.
00:23:32.340 Young black men, Hispanics, Hispanic women too, not just men.
00:23:36.620 This is what happened.
00:23:37.740 And they did it almost out of desperation, but because they saw the attacks on Trump, they're trying to throw him in jail.
00:23:45.620 They're going to lock him up and throw away the key.
00:23:48.280 And they said, he's our guy.
00:23:49.960 He understands.
00:23:51.060 He gets it.
00:23:51.820 And he's a rebel.
00:23:53.720 He's an underdog.
00:23:54.780 He's a Spartacus.
00:23:55.980 And instead, he became the establishment establishment.
00:23:59.140 And so you sent me the numbers.
00:24:00.400 We're going to break in a few minutes and come back with them.
00:24:02.260 But I don't – people go, oh, a poll.
00:24:03.560 You've been one of the most accurate pollsters ever, but I talk to the people on the ground.
00:24:06.280 I see the other polls.
00:24:07.740 I mean, it's it's it's bad. This is this is really horrific what we're facing.
00:24:14.560 It is, Alex. And, you know, people out there, it's not blackpilling, stop dooming.
00:24:19.440 If you were on the Titanic and you hit the iceberg because you didn't listen to the guy who said, watch out for the iceberg.
00:24:25.620 Would you sit on the deck of the Titanic as it goes down?
00:24:28.260 Or would you try to get man the lifeboats and get people in the lifeboats and salvage this thing?
00:24:32.340 I don't understand this blackpilling thing. I'm not an ostrich. I don't stick my.
00:24:35.460 I know. I agree. And give them advice. Hopefully they listen.
00:24:39.060 I've tried to come up with a proper term. I'm going to steal your term now because I don't know why I didn't think of that.
00:24:42.820 I call them the crazy white pillars, the cult, you know, the people on the payroll, you know, whatever.
00:24:47.560 But you're right. They're the apologists. They're really the dreamers.
00:24:50.500 They're the people that can't deal with the bad news. As we said, don't go on the iceberg field.
00:24:54.460 We did. We hit it. Now we got to get off the boat and say, what is post Trump?
00:24:58.320 What do we build? So it's not the Democrat Socialists running against Trump.
00:25:01.120 We've got to oppose what Trump became and what they are
00:25:04.260 We've got to build that coalition now
00:25:06.580 And they're calling us traitors for even talking about it
00:25:08.920 They say, no, I was in a Republican debate two weeks ago
00:25:11.640 And the other side's like, Trump never goes away
00:25:13.820 He's our leader until he dies
00:25:14.940 No, it's him
00:25:15.500 And I'm like, even if he had 60% approval rating like he did a year and a half ago
00:25:20.320 That doesn't matter because he's 80 years old
00:25:23.600 We have to have a future
00:25:24.700 But instead he has a 30% approval rating
00:25:26.440 The guy is done
00:25:28.100 He's destroyed
00:25:29.640 He's old garbage.
00:25:31.000 Throw him out.
00:25:31.920 And those of you clinging to it are idiots.
00:25:34.400 We'll be right back with Richard Barris.
00:25:36.420 People's underscore pundit on X.
00:25:38.080 This guy is smart.
00:25:39.340 And I don't know why I haven't had him on the show until now, as I've been following him for years.
00:25:42.880 But he is here with us right now.
00:25:45.080 He sent us a bunch of these polls.
00:25:46.800 We're going to get to straight ahead.
00:25:48.080 You want some Mars news today?
00:25:49.260 You're about to get it.
00:25:50.660 Hi, folks.
00:25:51.880 Doc Bigley here.
00:25:53.000 And today we're going to get to know our H2O.
00:25:59.300 Billy, what kind of water do you drink?
00:26:03.940 Why, tap water, of course.
00:26:05.820 Ma says it keeps my teeth sparkly white.
00:26:08.700 I'm sorry to say it, Billy,
00:26:10.260 but your mother is either plain ignorant or worse, a communist.
00:26:15.120 Let me explain.
00:26:16.460 Tap water used to be safe to drink,
00:26:18.660 but communist subversives in our government
00:26:21.400 introduced fluoride into our nation's tap
00:26:24.580 under the guise of dental health,
00:26:26.500 When in reality, fluoride lowers your IQ, calcifies your pineal gland, and makes you susceptible to anti-capitalist mind viruses.
00:26:36.600 So you're telling me I'm a sap if I drink tap?
00:26:39.720 Yes, you are, Billy. Yes, you are.
00:26:42.340 But don't despair. We've found a solution. Follow me.
00:26:46.880 I'd like to tell you a tale of two frogs.
00:26:51.220 Frog number one has only ever drank unfiltered tap water, chock full of fluoride.
00:26:57.080 Observe him listening to satanic music, abusing substances, and engaging in other perversions.
00:27:04.840 Look, Doc, they're trying to play leapfrog.
00:27:08.020 They're pretty bad at it, though.
00:27:10.520 Avert your eyes, Billy.
00:27:12.480 Let's continue.
00:27:13.320 meanwhile frog number two has only ever drank water that has been filtered for fluoride and
00:27:22.680 other impurities what a happy frog family spill the secret doc how do you get rid of the communist
00:27:30.140 poisons with the new water filter system from the alexjonesstore.com say doc may i have a glass
00:27:37.560 why certainly well that's just swell no water in the water filter listen i'm not mad at the crew
00:27:45.480 but i asked for real water in here 30 minutes ago and never got it crew's in trouble again
00:27:52.600 well this guy's in the top couple of pollsters in the world richard barris
00:27:56.200 peoples underscore pundit on x and we're we're talking about where we are as a country where
00:28:01.960 we are as a world you look at the economy the inflation the the iran war we got all the polls
00:28:06.520 here. It's a disaster. And then you've got the Democrat Socialists of America on one side.
00:28:11.780 Trump is now not running on how he's going to fulfill his promises. Now it's all, I'm better
00:28:17.220 than Democrat Socialists of America. And in a way, that's a true statement, but still ineffectual
00:28:24.220 compared to what he could be doing. But obviously, he's got pressure from the neocons and others not
00:28:29.000 to do it. So Richard, looking at this, and you're warning on that other show that I played a clip
00:28:34.900 But when you first came on, is there any off ramps for Trump?
00:28:38.960 What would you do if you were him?
00:28:40.280 And then let's go through these amazing polls that you sent us on his approval rating, on demographics, Republican versus Democrat, the Iran war.
00:28:47.720 And there's a lot here.
00:28:48.640 So you tell us which ones you want to go to first.
00:28:51.520 You know, if I was Trump, it's probably a different answer than what I tell Trump to do, right, because some things might be viable and some might not be.
00:29:00.460 I try never to count out Donald Trump because it's the miraculous comebacks he's made before.
00:29:04.900 But I mean, this is we're at a point now where it is bad, which we can see if, you know, looking at the graphics when we put them up.
00:29:11.760 But what he needs to do immediately, Alex, is end the Iran war.
00:29:16.320 I mean, 70 percent of the country doesn't even care the terms of the deal.
00:29:20.240 If he if he gets a better deal than the JCPOA, we're beyond that.
00:29:24.680 And the reason why is simple.
00:29:26.440 You will never convince people that the needs of a foreign nation or even if you're trying to argue they're your needs, but they're overseas.
00:29:32.700 you're never going to get them to believe that those needs are more important than their own
00:29:37.420 basic needs at home. This is like simple Abraham Maslow hierarchy of needs stuff. If they can't
00:29:43.160 pay their rent, if they can't buy food, if they can't pay their car payments, if they can't get
00:29:47.200 back to school clothes for their kids, they're not going to care what's happening in Iran or
00:29:53.360 Israel. He's got to end that war. The one bump that we've had for him in the last six months
00:29:57.820 came the month that he announced the MOU.
00:30:00.860 He got an eight-point bump
00:30:02.080 and the generic ballot actually tightened.
00:30:04.180 They fell apart.
00:30:05.160 And the next month, he fell to a new low.
00:30:07.420 His disapproval was at a new high.
00:30:09.540 And unfortunately, the generic ballot exploded again,
00:30:12.300 a Democrat plus 11.
00:30:13.400 I mean, that's an ugly, ugly result, guys.
00:30:16.660 That's a very sad Wednesday morning.
00:30:19.000 So I would tell Trump, I think what he needs to do,
00:30:21.200 he knows what he needs to do because he shared that poll
00:30:23.680 and the White House shared that poll.
00:30:25.840 He needs to get out of this conflict.
00:30:27.820 He needs to start trying to end the resolve the conflict in Eastern Europe.
00:30:31.760 But it's about optics and how much of his time the American public perceives to be being put towards meeting their needs.
00:30:39.540 They don't even expect you to accomplish everything that you want to accomplish.
00:30:43.320 They just want you to be their champion and try, you know, acknowledge that affordability is a problem.
00:30:49.500 Exactly. Acknowledge that gas has got to go back down.
00:30:52.360 You know, it's like a reminder every three days when you fill up your gas tank that Trump started a war that you didn't support.
00:30:59.140 Seventy percent did not support this war.
00:31:01.860 Twenty percent supported it before the conflict.
00:31:04.340 And let's talk about this new poll you've got right here.
00:31:06.460 I mean, the newer from June, this is a big deal.
00:31:09.420 This is what the White House shared, too.
00:31:11.480 And this interesting, the most interesting thing on that graphic, folks, is look at the difference between 2024 Harris voters and 2024 Trump voters.
00:31:19.440 While some voters want to support Trump, and if you ask them if they support the war, some of them will basically lie and say they do, even though that's even collapsed.
00:31:28.140 But overall, when you ask them whether they want peace, they want it more than Democrats do.
00:31:33.280 And why? Here's the kicker.
00:31:35.140 A lot of those Harris voters that we interviewed straight up said that they oppose the deal because they hope Trump continues the war because they know it's stupid and unpopular, and it'll lead to a landslide in November.
00:31:47.100 Which, by the way, shows how they're one-dimensional.
00:31:49.600 It could turn into a nuclear war.
00:31:51.060 It's killing the economy.
00:31:51.980 That is so idiotic.
00:31:53.200 We want Trump to make mistakes because that'll hurt him.
00:31:56.100 Yeah, it'll hurt you too, dummy.
00:31:58.300 Yeah, we call them the hive mind.
00:31:59.860 They're very one-track.
00:32:00.880 That's all they think about.
00:32:01.900 They're in lockstep together.
00:32:03.600 And that's getting worse as time goes on.
00:32:05.660 But ultimately, the failures – this is what people, unfortunately, don't want to confront.
00:32:11.740 the failures of this administration to meet these needs is leading to the rise of the dsa
00:32:17.520 oh it's supercharging it's supercharging them absolutely i mean that's what by the way that's
00:32:22.160 what burn it down is all about and even if yeah i haven't read your book yet i'm gonna read it
00:32:26.280 tell us about the book burn it down this is important it's got great reviews the thesis
00:32:30.320 of the book is is that we have two paths we can follow in this country it's either maga in its
00:32:35.240 og original form and all its glory in the 2024 coalition real maga not the new fake mark live
00:32:41.480 in version or it's mom donnie and the i mean that's what the the we have a lot of polls that
00:32:47.000 we didn't release publicly that that's in that are in this book that we analyze and other polling
00:32:51.760 that obviously backs up the trends that we found a lot of uncomfortable questions we ask in this
00:32:56.980 in this book for this book um and it all leads to the same place so every time this administration
00:33:03.580 makes a decision they have to consider how this is going to affect the future of the country in a way
00:33:08.280 that other presidents haven't had to deal with because we're in the middle right now.
00:33:13.160 We went through this like Trump realignment, but we're in the middle now of a generational
00:33:16.860 realignment, a generational shift.
00:33:18.860 The only people who support a lot of the policies that they started to pursue when things went
00:33:23.900 awry are older Fox, BoomerCon Republicans, and Alex, the silent gen is almost gone.
00:33:29.980 Boomers vote at high rates, but time comes for everybody.
00:33:33.980 They got a maximum of 10 years, and it's a tail on that.
00:33:37.600 max max down to nothing and here's the thing you meant you alluded to this but i know in the polls
00:33:42.640 you're more of an expert than i am by light years they weren't even big trump supporters but what
00:33:48.140 they are is bandwagon riders i'm not saying all boomers my parents aren't like that but they're
00:33:53.020 but but but they they they go with what they think the establishment is and now that they don't see
00:33:58.220 big attacks on trump and they see the stuff they feed them in fact i sent you guys a clip that they
00:34:02.900 put out everywhere he's a king and his surrogates are saying trump should be a king and trump is
00:34:07.180 backing for everybody else that's repulsive but for boomers it's this weird comfort slop
00:34:13.080 word i'm inventing here and it's it just has destruction written all over so they weren't
00:34:18.020 even real supporters before but now why are they i mean look boomers like calm and the truth is
00:34:25.140 they're in a period of their life where uh you know charlie and i used to talk about this a lot
00:34:29.440 it's like that this is why some of the older republican voters in 2024 didn't even identify
00:34:35.440 as MAGA. They identified as traditional Republican in our poll. Now they identify as MAGA. It's
00:34:40.860 because they're at a period in their life. They don't want to burn it down. This system was
00:34:44.860 designed to benefit them. It's designed to give them the golden years that they want.
00:34:49.620 And they they're not. I mean, it's a horrible thing to say, but it's the truth. They're not
00:34:53.700 really thinking about what's going to happen to their kids or their grandkids. And I think the
00:34:57.140 big part of that is and it's not to insult anybody. It's just the reality. It's a social
00:35:00.740 science reality. Boomers have been the center of the universe for four decades, and they've had
00:35:06.300 control over foreign and domestic policy for as long. They're used to the focus being on them.
00:35:11.440 They're used to worldviews centering around them. Well, guess what? The revenge of the millennial
00:35:16.780 is coming. And if we're not seen, if the right is not seen as the champion of that cohort,
00:35:22.240 then we're going to be annihilated. Not beaten, annihilated. In 2017, millennials became the
00:35:29.680 largest share of the vp the voting eligible population they don't vote at the rates boomers
00:35:34.580 do or even the science with remains of the silent gen they punch way above their waist still but
00:35:39.620 when they do when they decide to flex those political muscles if we're not on the right
00:35:43.840 side of this thing we're going to be destroyed in truth alex 10 years max you said it that's
00:35:48.960 actually very close to the number that we give in the book but they could do it now if they wanted
00:35:54.600 to let me be clear since we're talking turkey richard i'm not a statistician like you i'm
00:35:59.720 saying max 10 years but the power goes down every year massively so within five years they're already
00:36:05.260 eclipsed within six years they don't even matter what five six years i mean it's it's over we're
00:36:10.720 gonna see it in 28 we'll see a big shift we'll already see a big impact of that in 28 which
00:36:16.040 everybody thinks vance is just gonna sail into this thing without a problem and a part of the
00:36:20.320 clip that you played is me saying you have to repair this fracture. You can't just go around
00:36:25.940 and pretend this fracture didn't happen. It did happen. And by the way, look at that chart. This
00:36:29.840 is his approval by key events, like what happened and then how did his approval trend after that?
00:36:36.080 You can see we were actually on RealClearPolitics, the poll with the widest positive spread for Trump
00:36:41.920 at his high. So this is not like we're some unfriendly poll to Trump. We're definitely one
00:36:47.420 of the we were accurate but that also made us more friendly to him you know compared to some
00:36:52.340 of the left-wing oh richard let me stop you because i don't know i mean i follow some of
00:36:56.120 your stuff but let me guess when you put out real polls now you're being called a traitor
00:36:59.460 uh katari uh yeah okay go ahead absolutely the the right in in 16 alex when we called it right
00:37:06.940 the right loved me in 18 when we said the house is going to go because you betrayed people on
00:37:10.840 health care they hated me then by 2020 you know it goes back and forth and by 24 i was their saving
00:37:15.940 grace again you know so you would think after all that time you would earn the right to be heard
00:37:21.400 when you start shooting a flare in the air i was about to say i don't look at people about what i
00:37:25.740 want to hear who i respect and who i have on is people that tell me the truth because i respect
00:37:30.820 that because i don't want to be caught flat-footed but there's this thing where people especially
00:37:34.980 the democrats but republicans are acting more and more like them at least the boomers i'm not
00:37:38.400 selling you all out boomers boomers calling to go i'm not like that we know but like 65 percent
00:37:42.240 I mean, you guys, the ones got rid of Massey. My point is, is that is that they want delusion. They want lies.
00:37:49.500 Yeah, I mean, people, I think there's part of the part of people out there where even some of them may understand and they acknowledge it, but they lash out at you or they lash out at Tucker or they lash out at me because they don't want to lash out at the president.
00:38:05.100 And I get that because a lot of I saw this in the Obama era, too.
00:38:08.480 There were a lot of people who were truly upset with Obama, but instead they attacked people who criticized Obama.
00:38:14.360 Now, all of these years later, they put they lay the criticism where it belonged, which was with Obama.
00:38:19.960 You know, I mean, that's a key point.
00:38:21.620 A lot of the boomers that voted Trump in, they voted Obama in.
00:38:26.140 That's right. I mean, this is again, it's a backslide.
00:38:30.020 What the Republican coalition is doing right now is backsliding.
00:38:33.340 All right. You could not win without those Obama voters. You could not win without those low propensity new voters.
00:38:39.580 Trump was winning the unlikely voter poll, which is a funny exercise that pollsters do every year.
00:38:44.780 It tells you if these voters were to come out, who would they vote for?
00:38:48.600 Because they have the power to change the electorate and make an election easily winnable as opposed to a close election.
00:38:54.280 Trump was the first Republican president in my career to win the unlikely voter poll, which was exciting.
00:38:59.680 You know, and back then when we were putting out our polls, it showed he was doing better with younger people, black people, Hispanic people.
00:39:07.200 How's he doing? How's he doing now? Because I know that for the first time ever, the Republicans were the majority party.
00:39:12.440 That's not the case now, is it? I mean, how far is the slide here with the coalition that got him in in 2024?
00:39:18.580 Yeah, I mean, we we sent over the partisan trends that we do.
00:39:22.920 It's really ugly. Alex, I can give you a quick stat, which is at the end of that clip, which you played earlier in November of 2024.
00:39:29.680 40% roughly said, I'm a Republican. They identified as a Republican. Of that, by the way,
00:39:35.040 about half was MAGA, America first. Now today, it's about 30%. So you've lost about 10% off your
00:39:42.400 total number. It's a huge decline. And of those, only about 45% say that they're America first or
00:39:48.780 MAGA. Look at that. I mean, and by the way, we did this first and then you saw it with Gallup
00:39:53.500 and Pew and others. They followed us a month or two after. We're just scheduled ahead of them and
00:39:58.300 we publish it every month. They do it quarterly. But we all see the same trend. So just to give
00:40:03.120 people some quick napkin math, Republicans were a larger party than Democrats in 24 by
00:40:08.500 identification. About half of that or 20 percent of the country was America First MAGA. And now
00:40:14.000 they're 30 percent overall and only 13 percent combined America First MAGA. And we do actually
00:40:20.300 even split that up, Alex. And we say, which one is it? Are you more America First or are you more
00:40:25.000 MAGA. Well, America First cleans MAGA's clock every month now, 60, 40, 55, 45. So MAGA is really
00:40:32.720 like 5.7, 5.8% of the population. That's it. And America First is around seven to eight. So
00:40:40.080 you're looking at 12, 13% on any given month. And notice in all these polls, which are tracked
00:40:45.140 everywhere, it's all happened recently since he said, don't look at Epstein. I don't care about
00:40:50.000 affordability. I love war. I mean, this is a 100% clear signal, isn't it?
00:40:55.000 It's this is what I meant before when I said that the neocons don't have a single data point on their side.
00:41:01.060 Guys, we track the generic ballot every single month.
00:41:03.800 Republicans held on to their lead in our poll, even though other media polls, they did not.
00:41:08.500 They held on to their generic ballot lead until Operation Midnight Hammer.
00:41:12.960 The week after Operation Midnight Hammer, they lost their generic ballot lead and they have not they have never gotten it back.
00:41:19.580 And notice that's when Trump turned over control and said, my brain is Mark Levin and Fox News turned against his base.
00:41:27.300 People instantly saw the betrayal. It was quick. It's like a light switch.
00:41:31.700 Yeah, I think he just got completely consumed by it, too.
00:41:36.380 And I got to tell you, the voters gave him a lot of grace. They expected Trump to pivot again.
00:41:41.740 Remember the State of the Union? They thought that was a signal that he was going to bounce back and he was going to pivot to the domestic.
00:41:48.020 And he started to talk about health care and certain affordability issues, but it just kept getting stepped on by Israel, the Israel lobby and Iran and this and that and this overseas.
00:41:59.040 And every time we hear about the Russo-Ukrainian war and it doesn't end, it just reminds people that he said he would end it in 48 hours, right?
00:42:05.920 Not send more missiles and more military aid over to Zelensky.
00:42:11.540 That's exactly what Biden was doing.
00:42:13.140 Does it look to you, Richard, like he's trying to get an exit ramp and then Israel bombs Lebanon every time, or does that just show?
00:42:20.760 At this point, I'm sorry to interrupt you.
00:42:22.960 No, no, I interrupted you. Go ahead.
00:42:24.800 It does. I mean, the president wouldn't have shared that poll that we did if he didn't understand.
00:42:30.640 He knows, and there's just – to get that MOU –
00:42:33.780 So slow down. Start over. I know which one you said, but reintroduce. That's a big deal.
00:42:38.060 He shared your poll, and I've seen a lot of behind-the-scenes and public action.
00:42:41.220 I think he really is trying to do a real off-ram.
00:42:44.000 Some people are so cynical they don't believe it.
00:42:45.540 But, no, I think he legitimately saying Netanyahu is his own worst enemy and stop attacking Lebanon.
00:42:49.920 I mean, I think that's legitimate.
00:42:51.960 So repeat what happened with the poll that Trump reposted.
00:42:55.200 Yeah, so when they announced the MOU, we put that right into the questionnaire,
00:42:59.760 and we went out in the field and we polled it because we knew that the neocons were going to come out hot and heavy against this thing
00:43:05.440 and try to bludgeon it and the vice president.
00:43:07.420 It was immediately popular, exceedingly popular.
00:43:11.220 So he knows that he he published it.
00:43:14.160 He pushed it on truth.
00:43:15.220 But the White House also redid graphics and put it on X.
00:43:18.600 The president knows the right way to go here.
00:43:21.200 The problem is and I don't want to breach anyone's confidence, but in truth, the problem
00:43:24.880 is every time the negotiators got close to a deal and then ultimately when they did get
00:43:29.180 the MOU, the neocons were killing them.
00:43:32.460 They were killed.
00:43:33.000 The public response led it fed the Iranians.
00:43:36.940 So then they would go back to the Iranian negotiators and they would be sitting there
00:43:40.900 with a smile on their face and chuckling and saying, look, you have a wing of your own party
00:43:44.840 who doesn't want this deal. So, you know, they were hurting Vance and the negotiation team by
00:43:51.260 doing what they were doing. Well, they also blew up the negotiators just like they blew up
00:43:56.540 Turkish negotiators in Syria yesterday. And Israel said they think that'll make them not join
00:44:03.180 Pakistan, the nuclear umbrella. That's a no-brainer. I think that'll make them join it.
00:44:07.620 uh pakistan uh syria just did a deal two weeks ago with russia russian troops have now moved
00:44:13.680 back in i mean why that's another thing israel we're told is so smart i'm not saying israel's
00:44:18.120 dumb but every move i predicted would go wrong and it is yeah i and again i think the president
00:44:25.020 does know the the the way forward the way he needs to go i just think he put him he's in a
00:44:29.900 bad position and he put himself in a bad position by stepping out on the ledge and doing you know
00:44:35.220 The Operation Midnight Hammer was always going to lead to a kinetic war,
00:44:39.280 and this is what I think some of us who oppose that understood from the beginning.
00:44:43.500 You were never getting away with just three strikes, and that's it.
00:44:47.180 Israel said it was an attempted full war.
00:44:49.640 Then I had the neocons say I was insane.
00:44:51.880 Absolutely.
00:44:52.660 So how do you – I know you like to cover what you can prove,
00:44:55.880 but to take your pollster hat off, you've got to be really smart,
00:44:58.260 you've got to be a good pollster and understand the future.
00:45:00.700 From your futurist perspective and your finger on the pulse,
00:45:02.820 how do you see this ending or what are the different scenarios is there any off-ramps
00:45:06.380 there's really only one and that is for donald trump to use his power which he has
00:45:13.000 to stop israel from really pretending like lebanon is not part of the situation
00:45:18.680 of course it's part of the situation and he can do that very simply they're concerned over turkey
00:45:24.780 and their new con fighter because they don't need us to give them f-35s anymore that's a big
00:45:30.160 big part of why you see them going after Turkey recently, people, and that's what this comes down
00:45:34.720 to. In about a year, they'll get the delivery of their first ones that are comparable to the F-35.
00:45:40.260 Israel still needs us to give them components to the F-35 because they can't build it on their own
00:45:45.460 and we won't share that technology with them directly. Trump could easily tell them you're
00:45:50.400 not getting any more F-35s. That means you don't have air superiority in the region, and I will
00:45:56.600 let Erdogan piss on your head whenever he feels like it. And that is really all Donald Trump has
00:46:01.340 to do. Joe Ken has talked about this a lot. He really does have the power to rein him in.
00:46:06.220 Netanyahu is in trouble. He's not even a shoe in for this reelection this time. I mean,
00:46:11.180 he's in real trouble. And I know he's been in spots before, but he's at a point where he feels
00:46:16.760 the only way to generate enough turnout is for him to constantly antagonize and stand up to Trump.
00:46:21.280 And I know Trump understands that, you know, but the fact is Trump is the president of the United
00:46:26.000 States. 100%. But you're absolutely
00:46:28.120 right. And I've talked to people at the White House. I mean,
00:46:30.260 most of them are against this. They don't know why
00:46:32.140 Trump continues. He behind the scenes, he hates
00:46:34.020 Netanyahu. And I just have Tucker told me that
00:46:36.120 personally. I've had other cabinet members tell me
00:46:38.060 that. But he does care about Israel, which
00:46:40.200 I don't hate Israel either, and is overall
00:46:42.180 trying to help Israel. But as he said three days
00:46:44.160 ago, Netanyahu is his own worst
00:46:46.060 enemy, meaning Israel's worst enemy.
00:46:48.020 He's going to go to jail as long as he doesn't
00:46:49.960 continue this war and then blowing up
00:46:51.680 the coalition of
00:46:53.580 ambassadors and
00:46:55.060 and envoys from Turkey with Israel saying, our next enemy is Turkey. That's the biggest
00:47:00.200 conventional military in Europe. That is insane. And I know the Pentagon's against it, but what
00:47:04.860 other measures are there to get Netanyahu under control? Should Trump publicly rebuke him and
00:47:09.740 endorse his opposition? When you asked before, what would I do if I was Donald Trump? I would
00:47:16.000 publicly humiliate him. I really would. I would pull a Reagan, but only in public. And honestly,
00:47:22.180 I probably would go even further than that you know it's just always just like humiliation thing
00:47:25.900 when when leaders go over to Israel and there's never any reverence whatsoever for our monuments
00:47:30.880 or our our histories and our traditions I mean I I would no more meetings for Netanyahu I mean
00:47:37.220 the guys had more meetings than any other foreign leader ever I mean there's and Trump's already
00:47:42.200 he's already curtailed that yeah he has yeah I mean I mean at some point and he has started there
00:47:49.100 have been moments where he did it. It's just that, unfortunately, it looks performative because he
00:47:52.600 doesn't continue. He doesn't follow through. So the Axios report over the phone call where he said,
00:47:57.480 you know, everybody hates you. You know, I'm wasting capital on you. You need a lot more of
00:48:02.620 that because there is unfortunately, and this is not nothing to do with anti-Semitism or hatred
00:48:07.380 for Israel. But unless he does that, I don't know how he begins to recover because there's such a
00:48:12.820 large group of his coalition. And again, folks, it does matter. Younger voters absolutely matter.
00:48:18.420 They elected him, not boomers. They believe Israel hijacked their last chance to save their own country.
00:48:27.560 And there is this I don't it's not it's not hatred. It's not it's just it's a resentment.
00:48:34.540 They resent Netanyahu. They resent Israel. They're never going to join a coalition with these neocons again.
00:48:40.400 It's not going to happen. I don't think millennials.
00:48:43.040 Well, I was about to say, but not just here.
00:48:45.180 I predicted, it was our prediction that Pakistan would lead a coalition because they have nukes with a nuclear umbrella.
00:48:50.800 It's now happened.
00:48:52.560 And so, I mean, listen, you said we're not anti-Semitic.
00:48:56.260 My God, obviously, I wish this was even the focus we got China to deal with.
00:48:59.820 But at the end of the day, Israel's biggest worst enemy is Netanyahu and Ben Gavir and those crazies.
00:49:07.620 And people need to be able to step back and realize that this is a literal dead end.
00:49:13.940 And that's why they try to bully Trump's original supporters, because they know our voice is important to put the pressure on him to get off of this train to hell.
00:49:23.680 Yeah, I honestly think that Israel didn't make the right call here.
00:49:29.420 And some of the criticism dating back like a year or so ago, which they came at you hard for, you know, they called everybody names.
00:49:36.340 That was coming from the same place that my criticism of the president was coming from.
00:49:41.560 I don't want to see you in the spot I think you're going to end up in if you go down this path.
00:49:46.360 All the criticisms of Trump.
00:49:48.400 Yeah, I want you to succeed.
00:49:50.460 I don't want you to end up like this.
00:49:52.600 And now we're here.
00:49:53.460 But we have a lot of leverage now, though, that we've been vindicated.
00:49:57.960 I agree with that.
00:49:59.400 I agree.
00:49:59.640 I mean, I don't know how some of these other voices, Alex, even still go to social media or go on Fox News.
00:50:06.340 or go on their favorite programs every day and still talk.
00:50:10.020 I mean, if I was them, I'd be humiliated
00:50:12.300 and I'd be hiding under a rock
00:50:14.200 because not only did I steer the president
00:50:16.560 in the wrong direction,
00:50:17.880 but you better hope, folks, that these millennials are wrong
00:50:20.440 and that we do have more time to save this country
00:50:22.980 because here's the bottom line.
00:50:24.720 If you truly believed that Democrats
00:50:26.720 were an existential threat,
00:50:28.540 if you truly believed that the DSA rising
00:50:30.940 was the end of the republic as you knew it,
00:50:32.940 then you couldn't make a logical argument
00:50:36.180 that advocated for this war, advocated for this agenda because you did it at the expense of the
00:50:42.440 coalition. Your number one priority, if you truly believed all of that, would have been to keep the
00:50:46.920 America First coalition together, keep it viable, keep it electable and dominant. It was dominant.
00:50:52.560 It didn't have to be this way. So we're back to Trump blowing up on purpose. And I go back to
00:50:56.880 Napoleon Bonaparte. He said, never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake.
00:50:59.700 I've been I don't want Israel to get blown up I mean I'm literally like I'm literally like this
00:51:06.100 is pro-Israel telling him don't do this and Israel too I mean I've been I've been lucky enough I've
00:51:12.400 read internal government reports they understand the problem they have with public opinion a public
00:51:16.660 opinion in the west including in the United States and yet none of the prescriptions Alex
00:51:21.620 none of the prescriptions included anything with modifying their behavior or their tactics their
00:51:27.600 prescription was to keep pushing forward and throw more money behind it and just keep going
00:51:32.020 look at ben gavir with a daily 40 person kill a palestinian quota why would he put a post even
00:51:38.260 if he's a monster why do you you didn't see joseph mingle advertising his genocide like
00:51:43.200 listen i know you got to go you're amazing do five more minutes with us to put bookends on it
00:51:47.200 we're going to go to break for two minutes richard barris people's underscore pundit amazing i don't
00:51:50.880 know why the hell i would have you on the show more please come on a regular basis anytime you've
00:51:54.660 news you text my producer you're on the show followed you for years but it's just been a name
00:51:59.180 and i've seen your face here and there and then uh it's just amazing to have you wow richard
00:52:04.340 barris is impressive people underscore pundit on x follow him there and get his book we'll tell
00:52:10.020 you about that when we come back stay with us well i'll say it i've been following his polls
00:52:15.500 for years one of the top pollsters top two or three in the world richard barris and i hate to
00:52:20.180 even interrupt him to just say how right he is or bring up other topics i want to invite him
00:52:23.540 uh the next time i'm i'm i'm out of town or something's come up or hell i might even just
00:52:28.740 take off to have him host two hours uninterrupted this guy is amazing hosts a lot of shows be sure
00:52:33.540 and follow him on exit people's underscore pundit but just in the next four and a half minutes sir
00:52:37.140 you've got the floor without me interrupting for any other key points you'd like to impart to the
00:52:40.960 viewers thank you so much for being here and thanks for having me on alex and i'd be honored
00:52:45.180 to do that. That's amazing, really would be. Look, you know, this comes down to something
00:52:49.580 very simple. The president was elected to be a domestic wartime president. You know,
00:52:54.280 there were structural problems with our economy that got worse during COVID that he was elected
00:52:59.900 to address. Being a foreign policy president is a very easy trap to get into. But unfortunately,
00:53:05.940 that's not how D.C. works. They can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Either the blob and
00:53:10.720 the deep state and the foreign policy establishment gets their agenda or you get yours those of us
00:53:16.080 who have been doing this long as long as i have and longer many people have been doing it even
00:53:20.340 longer know that it's just the way it is it's unfortunate reality of dc and they have got to
00:53:27.340 pivot back to the economy because look at yesterday in pennsylvania we lost another
00:53:31.660 we lost another state legislature they're worried i just came back by the way from bucks county i
00:53:36.680 took a six state battleground state tour in the last six weeks. They are worried about getting
00:53:41.140 wiped out. When you get wiped out like this, as bad as they can, they're facing in Pennsylvania.
00:53:45.700 It is almost it's incredibly difficult. It's not possible. It's incredibly difficult to rebuild
00:53:50.840 from the ground up. You lose your donor base. You lose all of your your get out the vote base
00:53:55.100 from your local local electives that are in office. The hour is late. And I'm telling you
00:54:00.400 this election is I wish I would have wrote the book sooner, Alex. I really I really do. But
00:54:05.140 Sometimes you're limited by your own schedule, but this entire narrative and making sure that we cater to this, yes, we have to burn it down and make sure we cater to this new majority that is coming.
00:54:16.780 You may not care about them in the midterm, but you better because from the future, moving on, it's 10 years max is about right what you said.
00:54:25.660 It's only going to get worse from this point forward.
00:54:28.380 Let's have a complete reversal here.
00:54:30.180 Let's try to salvage what we can and move forward and rebuild because this is not the way forward.
00:54:34.460 We're going to get wiped out.
00:54:36.100 We're in the fourth turning.
00:54:37.200 We don't need to believe the theory.
00:54:38.400 We're in it.
00:54:39.200 We have to be revolutionary.
00:54:41.200 That's what America is.
00:54:42.500 That's who we are.
00:54:43.440 The left and communism is the old system.
00:54:45.600 We're the revolutionaries.
00:54:46.760 We have to advertise that and we have to get out front and people have to realize this
00:54:51.400 is existential.
00:54:53.960 And it is.
00:54:54.800 And that was the argument I tried to make before we started this war.
00:54:58.380 This is not the existential threat.
00:55:00.420 The enemy is not abroad.
00:55:01.820 We don't have to pretend we have to go chasing around enemies in the sand thousands of miles away.
00:55:07.260 The enemy is here.
00:55:08.860 Iran didn't kill Charlie Kirk.
00:55:10.700 Iran didn't try to kill Donald Trump.
00:55:13.280 Now, we know those of us with a brain didn't need to wait for a news report leaking intelligence to know that that was a complete garbage story.
00:55:20.600 But they're here.
00:55:22.300 They're here, folks.
00:55:23.340 It was is has it been has two years, not even been so long that we forgot what it was like to be under Democratic control with those of us who are behind a microphone or running for office or what it could end up in prison.
00:55:36.240 And the neocons claim we're going to get the Democrats elected when it's their actions, the polls show that are doing it.
00:55:41.720 You know, we're going to get blamed, Richard.
00:55:43.500 You know, we're going to get blamed when they when they.
00:55:44.920 easiest prediction i ever made alex was months ago after i mean longer now after operation
00:55:52.480 midnight hammer i said you watch they're going to need somebody to deflect blame onto and it's
00:55:57.340 going to become the podcasters who's and the pollsters who simultaneously have no influence
00:56:03.160 like according to mark levin i'm an unknown pollster yet it'll be my fault if we lose you
00:56:08.140 can't have it both ways mark tucker can't be irrelevant alex can't be irrelevant but somehow
00:56:13.100 they're the ones who are to blame. This is very simple. All of the data points to the same
00:56:18.300 direction. The parasitic part of this coalition would can't win an election to save their life
00:56:23.620 on their own, hijack this administration, steered it off the cliff. And now they're going to do what
00:56:28.720 they always do, blame somebody else and move on to the next coalition that they can latch onto
00:56:34.680 and drain of their life force. That's all they've ever done. Well, I'm your new biggest fan,
00:56:39.440 Richard Barris. I've followed your polls, but wow, in person, you're amazing. Thank you so much.
00:56:43.240 The people underscore pundit. We'll talk to you soon. God bless you, sir. Thanks, Alex. All the
00:56:47.820 best. God bless. You too. Amazing. I'm impressed. We'll be right back. I'm going to tell you
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