The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz

00:00:00.000 matt gates the biggest firebrand inside of the house of representatives you're not taking matt

00:00:08.420 gates off the board okay because matt gates is an american patriot and matt gates is an american

00:00:13.740 hero we will not continue to allow the uniparty to run this town without a fight i want to thank

00:00:20.880 you matt gates for holding the line matt gates is a courageous man if we had hundreds of matt gates

00:00:28.320 in dc the country turns around it's that simple he's so tough he's so strong he's smart and he

00:00:35.080 loves this country matt gates it is the honor of my life to fight alongside each and every one of you

00:00:42.880 we will save america it's choose your fighter time send in the firebrands

00:00:48.780 owen schroyer was at the capitol on january 6th he was uh subject to federal criminal prosecution

00:01:01.540 and imprisonment as we have talked about many of the civil rights issues that january 6th

00:01:06.880 defendants have faced whether it's been access to counsel or treatment during incarceration

00:01:11.340 many of you have asked questions about how owen's doing and what his conditions are

00:01:15.940 he's out now and so i welcome him to the podcast and owen i want to get into this full experience

00:01:22.840 you had but maybe first just for people who don't know you and your story explain why you came to

00:01:28.420 the capitol on january 6th and what your goals were that day sure and the individuals responsible for my

00:01:36.260 incarceration know that what i'm about to tell you is a hundred percent true because they've had

00:01:41.260 complete and unfettered access to all electronic data that they have requested included including

00:01:47.220 multiple cell phones so as many people may or may not be aware of now there was a procedure on january

00:01:54.840 6th where members of congress and the vice president at the time mike pence can take a second to review

00:02:01.420 the election process the electoral process and take a pause to see if all laws were followed before

00:02:08.360 certifying the election of joe biden and we were there that day to support that legal and lawful

00:02:15.460 process which by the way has been done before or in america's history by democrats multiple times even

00:02:23.920 by democrats so i was there as a journalist covering that proceeding in support of it hoping that we

00:02:31.060 could review some of the laws some of the changes of the laws and some of the process that went down in

00:02:35.900 the electoral process that winded up electing joe biden and i don't know maybe getting a question

00:02:41.120 answered like how donald trump was leading in five states at three o'clock in the morning of election

00:02:46.760 night and then joe biden won those states at 3 30 but perhaps that's another issue for another time so

00:02:52.440 that's what i was there doing that day that we see that pattern play out right where you get a lot of early

00:02:58.820 returns from some of the precincts with lower vote totals and then at the very end it's it's almost

00:03:06.240 like you see ballots willed into existence uh in some of these jurisdictions that don't have the the type

00:03:14.140 of tight ballot custody chain of custody and transparency regarding votes cast and and you know

00:03:21.920 the you you really drew a fine point on this fact that people have made these arguments and offered

00:03:29.120 these contests to electors quite frequently and not just in in distant history but in recent history

00:03:36.520 the last republican to be elected president in the absence of some democrat objection to electors

00:03:44.080 was george herbert walker bush so you show up as a journalist you show up as someone interested in

00:03:51.020 that process uh and and when did you first become aware that that what you were doing there was going

00:03:58.940 to have consequence in the federal criminal realm well and let me just get one thing clear before i

00:04:06.220 answer that question as well i never went into the capitol i never touched a police officer or any other

00:04:12.580 law enforcement agent and i'm on record trying to stop people from going into the capitol and trying to

00:04:20.000 work with capitol police to try to stop the entire thing from happening so i just want to make sure

00:04:23.820 that that point is clarified here now as far as when did i realize that i was going to be continued uh

00:04:29.980 to be persecuted by the department of justice and i say continued to be criminally persecuted because

00:04:37.520 this actually started in 2019 and you may or may not be aware that when jerry nadler was holding a sham

00:04:45.040 impeachment hearing of donald trump i stood up during the hearing and i said donald trump is

00:04:49.660 innocent it's the democrats are the real criminals the cops escorted me out of the building as i'm sure

00:04:54.220 you're aware this happens all the time in the capitol this happens all the time in congressional

00:04:58.260 hearings the one difference might be that i'm actually a conservative usually it's liberals and

00:05:03.060 democrats that do this and they just get detained for a minute escorted out of the building and that's

00:05:07.800 it and that's what was going to happen to me but somebody got on the capitol police's walkie-talkie

00:05:13.380 and said no you're not going to release oensroyer you're going to arrest him and charge him and so

00:05:19.260 i've been dealing with this since 2019 now there's also other false reports out there that i violated

00:05:25.920 a standard of my probation i didn't there are false reports out there that even the prosecuting

00:05:32.540 attorneys tried to argue to the judge inaccurately that i didn't complete my community service i did but

00:05:39.880 because of everything being shut down for covid they could never clear and complete and get this

00:05:45.900 case off of the docket but as far as myself and my legal counsel were concerned this was all done

00:05:52.980 it was all a done deal we were just waiting for all the covid stuff to get the courts back open

00:05:57.280 and then one day my lawyer inquires to the department of justice saying hey when are we going to get this

00:06:04.380 case off the docket it's been months now my client has finished his probation he's completed his

00:06:10.820 community service why isn't this off the docket and then to his suspicion they said oh we can't clear

00:06:16.380 this off the docket there might be something else going on now this was in the early summer of 2021

00:06:21.200 and then late in the summer in august of 2021 i received an indictment from the fbi for my arrest

00:06:29.240 for four completely bogus charges related to january 6th and then an allegation that i violated

00:06:36.360 my probation which they argue i did but we never got to defend that i didn't i would argue that i

00:06:42.180 didn't violate my probation and i think it's very clear in the wording in my probation that i did not

00:06:48.520 violate but again these are just false reports that we get from our corrupt department of justice

00:06:52.460 i think it's workers and the mainstream media there are a lot of people who uh were at the capital

00:06:57.900 grounds on january 6th who didn't go inside but um you know were there because they wanted to observe

00:07:04.720 this process some like you wanted to record it in some way for uh journalistic purposes some wanted

00:07:13.080 to have their voice heard that they didn't believe that the uh the electors were properly certified and

00:07:19.380 they wanted the the benefit of these objections to to prevail in the legally contemplated constitutional

00:07:26.300 system uh that you described and so really it must have been crazy when you then get the news that

00:07:34.060 this is going to result in this really enhanced um federal application of criminal law against you

00:07:41.020 as we have observed some of these cases we see prosecutors trying to overcharge or get even more

00:07:49.540 draconian punishment that you would ever anticipate associated with these types of charges uh you

00:07:55.800 know is that something that having gone through this process you think that we ought to investigate

00:08:00.260 and is it is it something you've observed this is actually a very important point that you bring up

00:08:06.760 here matt because we are now aware of this and if there is a silver lining in my case and and maybe

00:08:12.520 some of the other uh january 6th defendants that have just been completely abused by this department of

00:08:18.720 justice perhaps this is the silver lining what i've realized here is there is no incentive for

00:08:24.740 justice in the department of justice the incentive from prosecuting attorneys and u.s attorneys is

00:08:30.740 convictions and the incentive from the judge is prison time you notice i didn't say justice so what

00:08:38.540 happens is the u.s attorneys and the prosecuting attorneys they will vastly overcharge you six seven

00:08:45.300 charges many of which are just completely ludicrous but they'll wildly overcharge you at the hopes or

00:08:51.940 the assumption that you're gonna take a plea bargain and most people do who can trust a jury of their

00:08:58.040 non-peers because this isn't a jury of your peers uh this isn't a jury of people that know you or live in

00:09:03.640 your area or work in the same field as you i would have been in a jury in dc i would have had no chance

00:09:08.580 that's not my peers so you don't really get a jury of your peers and you basically get oh are you going

00:09:14.920 to be facing six seven charges that could completely destroy your life or do you want to plea to the one

00:09:20.680 charge that might be like a slap on the risk and then you hope you can get back to some semblance

00:09:25.260 of your normal well hold on let me interrupt you there because i think this is this is where the

00:09:29.980 pardon power is really going to be important because you had so many people who were confronting

00:09:35.820 this avalanche of charges that you would normally never see applied to a circumstance like this

00:09:41.320 and then people fearing really long incarceration periods would plead to something for a diminished

00:09:49.980 sentence or a diminished consequence and now that that is something that people are carrying with them

00:09:56.040 and and i want to get to you know how you think a lot of folks might have been used as political pawns

00:10:01.360 then but i think that the only way to remediate the dynamic you're talking about the power dynamic

00:10:07.000 where people pled guilty who never in their hearts believed they intended to commit a crime and certainly

00:10:11.540 didn't want to violate federal criminal law those people need need to be remediated and restored and

00:10:17.660 and i think that the pardon power could be used effectively by by the next president to restore those folks

00:10:24.140 and vivek ramaswamy as far as i know is the only candidate that has promised to do so i think maybe

00:10:31.720 donald trump has alluded to uh that idea i don't know if he has specifically said in so many words but

00:10:37.660 the reason why i talk about this now and and we're aware of it now is because of the blatant political

00:10:44.240 persecution that's been going down in what i think should be described as the democrats reich tag moment

00:10:50.480 like the nazis burned the reich tag to blame on their enemies well the democrats either let january

00:10:56.120 6 happen or who knows maybe they had the provocateurs in there uh to get it to happen and then they use

00:11:01.780 that to destroy their political opposition and ultimately they they'd like to use that to destroy

00:11:05.760 donald trump and everybody else is kind of really as like a never let a crisis go to waste moment for

00:11:11.880 them where like people who had no one no mens rea to commit a crime had to be overcharged had to be

00:11:20.220 incarcerated because those people then became a symbol to others of danger and malcontent and

00:11:27.360 terrorism i can't believe we're applying those terms to like maga grandmothers who crossed over a

00:11:33.300 barricade that was ripped down hours before by a capital police officer but that seems to be the case

00:11:39.520 like you know do is it your experience because i know you've communicated with others who've been in

00:11:44.800 these in these circumstances that people understand that their case is potentially part of a a broader

00:11:51.540 mosaic of democrats and the political left and the mainstream media to try to scare americans and to

00:11:59.320 try to make people think that anyone who is associated with the maga movement or for second amendment rights or

00:12:05.920 who wants to build a wall or have paper ballots is some sort of extremist

00:12:10.440 well let me just tell you from my experience what it feels like

00:12:15.600 as a journalist as a talk show host i now have this looming cloud over my head in the back of my mind

00:12:25.560 with everything i say i mean just coming on your show and talking to you i can't help it it's like an

00:12:30.780 involuntary muscle movement maybe call it an involuntary thought process of self-preservation

00:12:37.640 am i going to get arrested am i going to get imprisoned am i going to get thrown in jail for

00:12:41.580 speaking to matt gates am i going to get thrown in jail for telling matt gates and telling the world

00:12:46.020 my story this is something that i can't shake since i've gotten out of prison now maybe with time if i go

00:12:52.320 a month or a year or five without the democrats throwing me back in jail maybe i can finally shake it but

00:12:57.900 that's what it feels like now i'm i have to live with this now in the back of my mind that just for

00:13:03.160 speaking and doing my journalistic duties that i'm going to end up in prison and while this hurts me

00:13:08.840 i can't even imagine the next generation of americans living like this this is what it's like in north

00:13:13.880 korea this is what it's like in china where people are afraid to speak is this what the next generation

00:13:20.060 of americans is that gonna have to grow up with in the back of their mind to me that just breaks my heart

00:13:25.660 and you know again i think it's worth mentioning here because i i witnessed this not only do the

00:13:31.140 people that are in there defending their political views realize that they're part of a larger

00:13:34.800 picture of the democrat party trying to oust their political opposition by making examples of the

00:13:40.680 people they're throwing in jail on a much more broader scale and scope this is what the department

00:13:47.040 of justice does to everyone matt whether they're facing charges for one thing or the other this is what

00:13:54.200 they do to everybody you know when you spoke at the bop hearing uh with uh miss peters you know

00:14:02.640 they're asking for two billion dollars and and you know i can understand where they're coming from they

00:14:07.440 do have a problem with employment they do have a problem with staff and they do have a problem with

00:14:11.740 their facilities i had to shower in showers that had black mold all over them but here's the thing

00:14:16.640 you and i both know that they could get two billion dollars they could get 20 billion dollars

00:14:21.140 and nothing is going to improve in this system what needs to happen if they were serious what needs

00:14:28.020 to happen is they need to find out what a prisoner costs annually equate that to two billion dollars

00:14:33.940 and release that many people back to their families because most people got railroaded by this

00:14:41.820 department of justice because justice is not their incentive it's convictions and incarceration

00:14:48.260 and i learned this firsthand and and what would be your message to those who are still you know

00:14:55.200 carrying the weight of that uh with their own freedom being surrendered i think about the vigils that

00:15:01.380 are held outside the dc gulag on a nightly basis and the and the people there who who tragically are

00:15:08.160 just trying to have a minute or a moment on the phone to believe that something better is going to

00:15:13.760 emerge from all this what what can you say to them you know it's it's really hard to say anything

00:15:21.160 because my sentence was mere inches compared to the miles of wrongful convictions that people like

00:15:28.300 enrique tario or joe biggs or many others are facing there's really not much to say other than

00:15:35.560 i would just like the american people to know that the one thing that helped me get through it in the

00:15:40.580 worst times when i was thrown into the hole and disappeared in fact i was a i was in jail for

00:15:45.640 being a speech crime and then i got thrown inside the jail in the jail for speaking too

00:15:50.780 i can elaborate on that further if you would like but you know what they need to know is that people

00:15:55.680 on the outside still care about them the letters that i received the books that i received was some

00:16:01.820 of the most meaningful things that helped me get through some of the worst times when i was in solitary

00:16:06.500 in there and they just need to know that people haven't forgotten about them they need to know that

00:16:11.480 the american people's hearts and minds are still with them because i mean really it's dark it's tough

00:16:18.480 in there it's psychologically damaging it's physically damaging and i've seen firsthand how people that

00:16:25.200 have long time deal with it and and there's highs and there's lows and there's good times and there's

00:16:30.480 mostly bad times but there's really nothing you can say to a man whose life has been stolen from him

00:16:36.700 there's really nothing you can say or do to a man who has been thrown in jail as a political

00:16:42.660 prisoner by the democrat party there really isn't but what you can do to maybe make it a little easier

00:16:47.720 is to just let them know you care you know there's some projects out there i got some mail from them

00:16:52.260 like the patriot mail project and others where just getting a letter just getting a letter from the

00:16:58.320 outside telling you that hey we're praying for you we haven't forgotten about you you know americans

00:17:03.700 are out here still thinking about you we're still trying to get your stories in front of congress so

00:17:08.400 that people can know what's going on i mean just that helps you get through the day just putting 20

00:17:14.080 bucks into their commissary fund so they can buy something at the store that isn't prison slop to eat

00:17:20.100 get a shirt that isn't a gift from the bop that comes with sweat stains or or or underwear that comes

00:17:26.580 with poop stains uh just little stuff like that can help their time a little easier uh go by and but

00:17:33.220 i mean there's really nothing you can say to a man who's had his life ripped away and thrown in a hole

00:17:38.240 wrongfully there's really not much you can say but there's some actions you can take to maybe at least

00:17:42.500 make it a little easier on them while they're down undeniably we need to take more action as

00:17:47.020 republican leaders to see that the violations of civil rights are remediated to the extent that you can

00:17:52.240 at this stage of the game and this is time that a lot of people aren't going to get back

00:17:56.700 in the event that i mean you know you mentioned enrique tario wasn't in washington dc and has some

00:18:03.360 like multi-decade sentence i it's it's a it's really something that appears more um like what

00:18:12.380 you'd see in an orwellian novel uh than what you'd observe in a free country oh and how can people

00:18:18.260 follow follow your journalism and your work as you continue to offer commentary and analysis on

00:18:23.400 on what's facing the country well i appreciate that and let me just make one more point before i do

00:18:29.720 when they when the fbi indicted me there was a magistrate judge judge faruki who issued a motion

00:18:36.940 to the department of justice saying hey wait a second you've just illegally charged a journalist

00:18:41.680 and matt i'm sure you're aware of this but barack obama wrote special standards and procedures

00:18:46.700 for charging a journalist there's different hoops and things you have to do when you charge a

00:18:51.640 journalist they didn't do any of them and when this magistrate judge said hey wait a second you

00:18:56.020 just broke the law doing this they just they just threw it away they just didn't even care they

00:19:00.140 completely ignored it even though everybody knows i'm a journalist now thankfully because i'm one of

00:19:05.200 i have been one of the most censored men in america censored on all the mainstream social medias

00:19:10.920 youtube facebook twitter instagram everything else uh why because i'm a conservative that tells the

00:19:17.460 truth but thankfully now that elon musk has take over taken over x i'm back on x i've got my political

00:19:23.280 media account at owensroyer 1776 i got my personal account back at all i do is owen but you can follow

00:19:30.040 my show and what's amazing about this because i mean in a way it's an honor that the democrats are so

00:19:35.300 afraid of me that they throw me in jail for my speech but in the 30 page sentencing memo they took

00:19:41.960 speech from my talk show which is the info wars war room and because we get banned everywhere you have

00:19:47.580 to go to band.video slash war room to find it i'm on 3 to 6 p.m central times they 30 pages and they're

00:19:55.180 in almost the entire memo was things i said on my show nothing to do about january 6 they quoted me

00:20:02.020 calling joe biden a chinese communist puppet and they put that in my sentencing memo calling it

00:20:07.900 relevant conduct so apparently my show is so dangerous to the democrat party that they use it

00:20:13.460 in sentencing memos against me to throw me in jail so in a way i'm honored but like i said that that

00:20:18.980 thought is always there in the back of my head like an itch i can't scratch every day i go on air

00:20:23.500 are they going to throw me in jail for going on air today are they going to throw me in jail because

00:20:27.680 today i said that there's a biden crime family that needs to have this impeachment inquiry

00:20:32.000 going forward which thank god the good republicans in the house made move forward but that's where

00:20:36.720 you can find me you can find me on x you can find me at band.video you can also find me on rumble.com

00:20:41.780 slash owen so really the response here matt has to be like what you've done and with your podcast

00:20:47.340 firebrand and even when you were going through uh all the the swords and arrows coming after you for

00:20:53.680 ousting kevin mccarthy which i think you did the right thing in times like this we have to take the

00:20:59.040 bold steps and at times like this where people are trying to minimize you you have to become a

00:21:04.380 maximalist no you're absolutely right every one of us has a node of power that we can influence in

00:21:10.380 american politics and what the left is trying to do is they are trying to erode that diminish that to

00:21:15.940 the greatest extent possible and i think that using people as pawns as part of this grand january 6th

00:21:21.960 narrative is a really dangerous feature of that but we see features of it from the censorship to

00:21:28.500 the demonetizing to the de-platforming and you're right the only way it works is that we band together

00:21:35.600 and that we become maximalists and they're more of us than there are of them and i think they know it

00:21:41.260 and i think that's what frightens them the most owen there were so many people that were concerned

00:21:45.780 about you uh they were watching this podcast and many others uh and so many folks are glad to see

00:21:52.520 that you're free now and while it is a terrible thing that you had to go through and it it seems

00:21:58.220 to be kind of littered with retaliation and retribution that is tied to constitutionally

00:22:04.520 protected expression you'll wonder you know like does god put us through these trials and tribulations

00:22:10.900 so that we can be maximalists so that we can go beyond it and help others and uh certainly with

00:22:16.300 the slings and arrows i've taken i firmly believe that builds our calluses so that we're even more

00:22:21.760 prepared for the next fight and i know you will be so i'll give you the last word but thanks so much

00:22:26.380 for joining me on fireman man i completely agree with that i can't express my gratitude for all the

00:22:32.800 care and concern and prayers for me while i was in i will promise those people in your audience that

00:22:38.060 i'm never going to give up in the good fight and uh i won't speak for you matt but i know that i'm sure

00:22:43.280 you feel the same way as we're both fighting for the future of not just the united states of america but

00:22:48.960 really i see it as human freedom of existence on this planet amen amen thanks for joining us owen give

00:22:56.320 this guy a follow and thanks for joining us on firebrand appreciate it man

00:23:08.060 and thanks for joining us on firebrand appreciate it man

00:23:11.060 and thanks for joining us on firebrand

Episode 139 LIVE： Uncaged (feat. Owen Shroyer) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

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