The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - February 07, 2024


Episode 149 LIVE: Bordering On Chaos (feat. Rep. Andy Biggs) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz


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The impeachment of Donald Trump's cabinet secretary Andrew P. Mayorkas failed to get enough votes to be voted down in the House of Representatives yesterday. Andy Biggs, a conservative congressman from Ohio joins us to discuss the failed impeachment effort.

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00:00:00.000 matt gates the biggest firebrand inside of the house of representatives you're not taking matt
00:00:08.340 gates off the board okay because matt gates is an american patriot and matt gates is an american
00:00:13.680 hero we will not continue to allow the uniparty to run this town without a fight i want to thank you 1.00
00:00:21.240 matt gates for holding the line matt gates is a courageous man if we had hundreds of matt gates
00:00:28.280 in dc the country turns around it's that simple he's so tough he's so strong he's smart and he
00:00:35.020 loves this country matt gates it is the honor of my life to fight alongside each and every one of you
00:00:42.820 we will save america it's choose your fighter time send in the firebrands 0.76
00:00:48.740 you know james aired iredale one of the founders of north carolina talking about the this impeachment
00:01:01.340 clause said the power of impeachment is given by this constitution to bring great offenders to
00:01:05.360 punishment it's calculated to bring them to punishment for crime which is not easy to
00:01:09.480 describe but which everyone must be convinced is a high crime misdemeanor against government
00:01:13.520 for instance corruption let's do here it's exercise the impeachment will arise from acts of great
00:01:21.080 injury to the community and the objects of it may be such as cannot be easily reached by an ordinary
00:01:26.160 tribunal that's why you have impeachment and that's necessary here because what you have is a secretary
00:01:33.080 who came in to judiciary he's given the language from the uh secure safe and secure offense act of 2006 and said
00:01:46.720 is the border under good operational control he says well well no we've redefined it ourselves
00:01:52.520 we're comfortable with the new definition that we've made that's a separate violation of the separation
00:01:58.540 of powers this is the same secretary who tells his ice agents you know what you cannot
00:02:03.660 additional 30 seconds he tells his ice agents you cannot remove 1 million 1.2 million people who
00:02:15.200 have actually had due process through the courts and have active removal orders he's the same one who
00:02:21.660 says we don't have to adhere to title eight that has resulted in great injury to our communities
00:02:29.820 and that is why he must be impeached because he falls in the definitions that one of the founders
00:02:37.680 james ardell said and he's right on the money and i urge everyone to support this movement to impeach
00:02:44.160 outstanding conservative congressman and he joins us now andy after you offered that debate
00:02:51.500 on the floor of the house republicans suffered the loss mayorkas was not impeached three of our
00:02:58.660 colleagues who we know quite well congressman mike gallagher of wisconsin congressman ken buck of
00:03:04.240 colorado and congressman tom mcclintock of the border state of california all did not believe that the
00:03:10.100 threshold that had been met for impeachment andy biggs was really the first congressman to come out and
00:03:16.700 call call call mayorkas what he was someone who was highly competent highly effective and evil in
00:03:24.360 the execution of these policies you have taken more members of congress to the border than anyone
00:03:30.840 else you've probably spent more time on the border than any other member of congress your reaction to
00:03:36.440 the uh the failed impeachment effort yesterday well first thanks for having me matt and and it's great
00:03:42.020 to have you as a friend and a colleague um my reaction is that is that i i don't know that i
00:03:48.220 expected it to go down i i thought there was that possibility because i tried to work with
00:03:53.540 some of those members who voted no um to get them to come around and understand because their issue is
00:04:01.740 what's the definition of high crime and misdemeanor they all say oh he's the worst cabinet secretary
00:04:06.980 perhaps in the history of the country but when you cause the kind of damage that we have seen in
00:04:13.020 this country and i'm i mean i'm not just talking about the hundred thousand people who've died of
00:04:18.540 drug overdoses because of his policies i'm talking about a guy who puts out a memo puts out a memo in
00:04:26.960 2021 on how he's going to dismantle u.s border security law that's that's where i say well you know
00:04:35.440 what what do you think a high crime and misdemeanor is and you know they tell me things like well we
00:04:40.420 need to see the elements of a felony is it that is we've had the high crimes and misdemeanors in
00:04:46.240 anglo-american law since 1450 not quite the magna carta but getting we're in the neighborhood of the
00:04:52.600 magna carta and i'll tell you what this guy mayorkas is a danger he's a danger to you me and everybody in 0.78
00:04:59.780 this country the morning of the vote congressman gallagher stood up before our house republican
00:05:04.980 team and said that he believed that if mayorkas were impeached there would be no limiting principle
00:05:11.620 on impeachment that it would just be a result of every disagreement that occurred my sense is that
00:05:18.420 a limiting principle is that when you are purposefully flagrantly and repeatedly violating
00:05:24.240 the law with the outcome of great harm to the american people and we can make that judgment and it's a
00:05:31.960 different judgment that that somebody's just a knucklehead or a screwball the the intentionality
00:05:37.500 to do the harm and violate the law struck me as sufficiently limiting um did you you know do you
00:05:45.560 sense that with any of these folks that look we serve with two of them on the judiciary committee
00:05:49.740 i serve with gallagher on the armed services committee are these three votes in cement are they
00:05:55.160 immovable is there conduct from mayorkas that we think we can illuminate to showcase the the degree
00:06:02.160 to harm in high crimes and misdemeanors done i think that these three i haven't talked to mike but i have
00:06:08.720 talked to the other two and actually worked on the other two for a year and a half since i've been
00:06:14.040 working on this a long time they are immovable in my opinion okay so that means that if impeachment is
00:06:20.600 going to happen uh it's not going to be an act of persuasion so much as an act of turnout steve
00:06:26.060 scalise is recovering from cancer we pray for his speedy recovery but when he is able to make it back
00:06:32.220 to the floor do you expect that the impeachment will be called up again so that we can get it passed
00:06:37.120 i've been told that that's the case okay so let me let me serve up this critique that's been made of
00:06:43.220 mike johnson because i think it's an unfair critique and i want to i want to deal with it they say well he
00:06:48.300 should never have called this up for a vote if he wasn't certain it would pass we should have just
00:06:54.340 not had the vote and we should have waited until we were assured or relatively assured victory
00:06:59.600 i disagree with that assessment because i actually think there might have been three or four other no
00:07:05.920 votes based on process or proclivity and that by having the vote we really flushed people out and
00:07:13.060 forced them to go on the record and then you work from there like the old system of washington was
00:07:17.860 the way to preserve like the legitimacy of your leadership is to never call things for a vote
00:07:22.980 that are likely to that are likely to make you look bad but i think what makes us look bad is not
00:07:27.480 having the votes so while other people are saying oh this is calamitous for mike johnson i disagree i say
00:07:33.580 you know what we're gonna we're gonna win some we're gonna lose some lately we've been we've been
00:07:37.620 losing a few of them on the budget and on fisa and a number of other things but do you fault mike
00:07:44.720 johnson for holding the vote today or last night as he did no i think i think more along the lines
00:07:50.260 that you think i for two reasons number one i think that you when you get elected to congress you
00:07:56.640 should come and vote so your constituents know what you're doing the board of truth is the board of
00:08:02.300 truth that's that voting board that shows what you're doing the second thing is and i and i told
00:08:07.200 people this you know by my calculus somebody was saying well what about immer you know he didn't count
00:08:11.500 right i said look the the democrats they had a guy who was out for surgery we we judge typically an
00:08:19.960 evening vote by who's voting in the afternoon he wasn't there we could have lost those three and one
00:08:25.180 uh had he not shown up but some miraculous thing he gets the surgery he pops back in i don't blame
00:08:31.600 our leadership i don't and i do think that that strategically it works out well for us because
00:08:37.020 now you know exactly what's going to happen when steve scalise comes in you could have had a
00:08:43.020 circumstance where scalise could have come back and you could have had somebody else float away from
00:08:46.980 the dock but now those other votes are iced in so i actually think that that taking the lost leader
00:08:52.480 here might actually propel us uh to victory on that greed on that impeachment now you you and i know and
00:08:58.360 you really have taught me this the border has a rhythm to it it has a flow to it it can pulse in
00:09:04.720 certain areas it can diminish in others how states are reacting right like you and i went to the area
00:09:11.340 where mexico and arizona and california all collide and we we got the the real tactical briefings about
00:09:17.780 how that california jurisdiction becomes very appealing because there's no coordination with
00:09:22.380 local law enforcement and you know eagle pass was really hot abbott puts up those razor wire barriers
00:09:28.780 turns out razor wire is a deterrent then we start to see lukeville arizona pop so with what you're
00:09:35.240 seeing now with what you're hearing where what what is next on the border with this impeachment having
00:09:41.360 failed mayorkas is out doing his celebratory uh victory lap at the super bowl where are we going to see
00:09:47.860 it pop so you're going to continue to see it pop in southern arizona right now the reason is that
00:09:53.660 in texas eagle pass was hot um they brought rio grande and valley under control you have del rio kind
00:10:02.680 of uh slowed down as well it's gonna it's forcing the cartels to move their product which is human
00:10:09.360 trafficking further west you might see a little bit in el paso because i think i think they're that
00:10:16.280 that they're kind of loose you know their representation there really supports open borders i don't think it
00:10:23.080 stays there though i think it goes continues on uh i'll just tell you i've taken you down there
00:10:28.120 you've been there to the tohono o'clock reservation middle of nowhere as you know and literally hundreds
00:10:34.100 groups of 700 800 are being dropped off in the middle of nowhere so yeah i think it's going to
00:10:39.580 still be lukeville i think it's going to be tucson sector uh would that be happening if you had a
00:10:44.500 republican governor that was willing to enforce the border because i look here's what i see i see texas
00:10:49.460 with a republican governor saying enough is enough and actually creating a deterrent does that is
00:10:56.520 there a part of you that that kind of knows when texas flexes and does their job right oh man that's
00:11:00.860 gonna that's gonna push this thing more to arizona yeah absolutely we know that um it's like that
00:11:06.480 balloon you know there's you squeeze the balloon over here it pops up over here but that's that's
00:11:10.320 exactly what's going on imagine if arizona had a governor that was doing what what um abbott's doing
00:11:16.500 our problem of course is we've got probably about 80 linear miles of reservation land we can't put
00:11:22.500 national guard on it's illegal for us to put national guard troops in there yeah so the if
00:11:27.400 everyone is watching and wondering well why isn't arizona doing exactly the the stuff that texas is
00:11:32.760 doing those jurisdictional issues around those border indian reservations why did we leave an indian
00:11:38.980 reservation on the border between the united states this strikes me as a bad place to have a
00:11:43.600 jurisdictional no man's land yeah i you know that's that's a relic from you know the 1800s i
00:11:50.080 mean but i thought we won those wars yeah well we won the wars but surrendered our yeah and don't
00:11:55.180 forget you also have uh you have federal wildlife preserves on the border in arizona you've got um
00:12:01.820 organ pipe national monument which has got miles of stretch uh bordering as well so you you've got
00:12:08.880 this national forest over here in the check i was so we're not we don't have the gold water range gold
00:12:14.180 water range you you've got private land in texas so texas is able to go in to private landowners and
00:12:20.780 say let us use this arizona not so much even your big ranchers down there um they might own you know
00:12:27.780 14 000 acres but they also might be leasing another 20 you know 20 000 acres that is federally owned on the
00:12:34.920 border the senate put together uh what they called a border bill but you and i would characterize as
00:12:41.220 really a way to ice in a lot of the mayorkas priorities and goals uh mike lee a terrific senator
00:12:47.800 someone who i know we seek guidance from and mentorship from frequently he put out a list of
00:12:53.800 really uh eight critiques of that legislation that even mitch mcconnell is now subsequently killed
00:12:59.280 and i want to run through these because even though that bill is like temporarily dead you're going
00:13:04.080 to see elements of what mcconnell and langford tried and biden tried to do reemerge so mike lee says
00:13:10.520 first that this legislation sends 5.6 billion dollars that is dressed up as humanitarian aid but
00:13:18.340 could be highly influenced by hamas and gaza so dev borrowing money from china to send money to hamas
00:13:25.340 seems like something we wouldn't want to do with five billion dollars uh he critiques the fact
00:13:30.100 that this prioritizes ukraine over our border he talks about the amount of money that is spent
00:13:37.200 paying the salaries of ukrainian officials this from mike lee's letter recent reports state that the cia
00:13:43.740 had to warn zelinski face to face that washington was aware of his personal corruption and unwillingness
00:13:52.220 to dismiss any of the dozens of ukrainian officials known to be deeply involved in diverting defense funds
00:13:59.320 for personal accounts so let's pause there like have you seen anything in the oversight and
00:14:06.240 monitoring of this stuff going to ukraine that even gives you confidence that it's getting into some
00:14:12.600 righteous fight no uh you know i sit on oversight committee we do get some reports it i'm not convinced
00:14:20.260 that that ukraine which was considered to be one of the most corrupt nations on the earth pre-russian war
00:14:26.920 has cleaned up its act during the rush during the russian war in fact you'll find u.s material in
00:14:33.680 weird places like uh central africa where there's might be a a coup a revolution going on you'll find
00:14:40.580 uh dollars people ferrying out u.s dollars um to to buy themselves mansions they're they're they're
00:14:47.840 they're putting in new swimming pools they're building mansions in in places of ukraine that aren't
00:14:51.540 under attack no i mean these are these and those are open source reporting too that's not just that's
00:14:57.100 not coming from classified sources that's open source reporting so no i i think it's a real uh disaster
00:15:02.960 for for u.s dollars lee continues that this lays the groundwork for more forever wars with kind of
00:15:09.700 funding at first and asking questions later he talks about the failure to address the homeland security
00:15:15.480 threats that arise out of what we're seeing on the terrorist watch list what what what can you share
00:15:20.380 about what the terrorist watch list tells us about the type of people coming over the border
00:15:25.980 so um the in this on this watch list that that you have we've we've had over 300 during the biden
00:15:33.380 administration and normally you would see maybe five or six over a two three year period so so that gives
00:15:40.620 you the magnitude these are people that um have been placed on that watch list by perhaps european
00:15:48.140 um spy organizations u.s spy organizations any other you know whatever they call the the eyes the
00:15:56.120 private eyes groups you know that look and they will put them on that list some of these people don't
00:16:01.460 even realize they're on that list when they come in that and the reason that we catch these people
00:16:05.160 these these most most of these people don't even realize they're on the list they're they're not even
00:16:10.580 the worst of the worst the worst of the worst are coming in between the ports of entry that we
00:16:14.640 don't even know that they're coming in so imagine uh that that you that you're coming in and you don't
00:16:20.960 know that you're you're going to get picked up for being a terrorist you and i've spent time with
00:16:25.780 these angel parents who have who have lost loved ones as a consequence of illegal immigration so
00:16:32.200 people are dying in america now as a result of this they're dying from fentanyl they're dying from
00:16:37.340 other um harms that illegal aliens are causing but it it's almost hard for me to imagine that we're 0.99
00:16:44.780 not within a five-year window of some sort of mass casualty event caused by someone who came across
00:16:52.000 the border illegally the uh the briefings i've had that are not classified uh they all agree it's it's
00:16:59.460 not uh if it's when because there's cells of terrorists all over don't forget hamas is strong
00:17:07.680 in hezbollah is strong in venezuela oh sure there's a huge lebanese diaspora in south america and uh i've
00:17:16.600 always wondered i've always wondered why our foreign policy elites always care more about what's happening
00:17:21.140 oceans away than like you know here in our sphere of influence the the you know the the whole like
00:17:28.780 monroe doctrine has been gone dissolved and why that should be something that that we uh that we
00:17:35.880 take great national pride in i certainly don't take pride in the fact that the legislation mcconnell
00:17:39.900 was backing what's in 60 billion to ukraine and just for context the entire united states marine corps
00:17:46.440 is 53.8 billion so they want to send more money to ukraine than funds the entire united states marine
00:17:54.380 core uh moreover the this creates a gift of 300 million dollars to the national police of ukraine
00:18:01.680 so while the democrats are trying to defund police in the united states we are funding police in ukraine
00:18:08.320 your reaction andy oh that's absolutely crazy it's it's ludicrous but don't forget we're also we're
00:18:14.060 also funding the ukraine government's um retirement system right i mean think about that um and so i just
00:18:23.100 and we're borrowing this from our children and grandchildren it's not it's not money that we
00:18:28.240 have in the bank because they don't want to do a pay for for this they just want to add it to the tab
00:18:33.560 so mcconnell fails because he's got this terrible border bill we've gone over lashed to this listless
00:18:40.660 flow of money into europe and beyond but now i think they're regrouping i think what you're going to see
00:18:47.500 the senate do is pull off the bad border stuff and send us a bill that does the 60 billion for ukraine
00:18:55.760 maybe another 17 billion for israel uh billions for taiwan restoring american stockpiles and do all of
00:19:03.920 it as deficit spending i think they want to send that to the house of representatives and they know
00:19:09.200 that there are a lot of sympathies for israel in the house sympathies that you and i share i think we
00:19:14.160 would like to make sure that the iron dome doesn't run out as israel is defending itself against 0.99
00:19:18.860 perpetual onslaught but the notion of doing that while deficit spending seems to abandon a lot of
00:19:26.480 the principles that that you and i have been trying to instill into the republican house your your
00:19:32.240 reaction to that mcconnell strategy yeah just a couple quick things number one i've introduced
00:19:37.160 legislation reintroduced legislation to actually provide a pay for for israel on a separate bill
00:19:44.140 number number two um you by giving money to hamas even if it's humanitarian we should have learned
00:19:53.920 this by giving six billion dollars to iran right they said it was going to be humanitarian if money
00:19:59.400 is fungible they're going to turn around and use it so you'll be funding both sides of the war
00:20:04.160 geez which is absolutely asinine well unless you own defense stocks right unless you own defense stocks
00:20:10.020 which actually a number of our members of congress do make a little something make a little money
00:20:14.340 that way i guess um i i talked to the speaker today and i i told him look i know he wants to do this
00:20:21.920 israel thing i know he wants to liberate this israel stuff from the ukraine stuff and the taiwan stuff 0.91
00:20:26.960 and you and i believe in the principle of single subject legislation so that that tracks well
00:20:32.640 but i i don't know how you cannot have any offset any pay for and so i said to the speaker look at a
00:20:39.940 minimum can we take the money out of the u.n entities that were literally literally in concert with those
00:20:48.820 attacking israel can we at least take that out of the israel aid and and he uh wanted to take that
00:20:55.500 under advisement but do you think that we would lose a single republican vote for israel aid if we
00:21:01.740 also defunded part of the u.n as in that strategy no no not one not one i can't think one all right
00:21:10.140 mr speaker you heard it man you always think me and biggs are on the no row but we're uh we're real
00:21:14.780 eager to see you take a bite out of the u.n as part of the israel bill and i don't think that will that
00:21:19.560 will lend to the critique that speaker johnson is playing politics with israel funding i think the
00:21:25.240 people playing politics with our money are at the u.n and the politics they're playing is vicious and
00:21:30.860 deadly and directed at israel no 100 right so you need to defund unru but you also as long as you're 0.61
00:21:37.680 defunding take the money from the their office of migration which is actually actively recruiting
00:21:43.300 people who want to illegally migrate to europe and they're saying no it's actually easier to get into
00:21:48.460 america right now if we can't cut funding for the entities that are literally paying for the invasion
00:21:55.580 of our country and the slaughter of israelis we will never be able to cut anything right i mean 0.96
00:22:03.340 isn't that this is the easiest money to cut in the federal budget you would think you would think all
00:22:08.940 right i i gotta get to another subject before i let you go faiza i've talked on the program a great
00:22:14.020 deal about these spying authorities that were weaponized against president trump that are violated
00:22:19.340 38 times every hour according to the inspector general we've got uh some of our republican
00:22:24.760 colleagues that are on the house intelligence committee who are very critical of the legislation
00:22:29.600 you have co-authored and and inspired to put a warrant requirement on the spying of on americans
00:22:37.000 i think in a real mistake we put an extension of those spying authorities onto our national defense
00:22:43.180 legislation uh that is coming up in march next month i believe yeah and so you have been appointed as
00:22:50.940 one of the key people on the judiciary committee negotiating with the intelligence committee
00:22:55.640 about what the guardrails ought to be on these spying authorities how do you describe how that's
00:23:00.260 going well so i i misspoke it's it's april 19th okay great there it comes through um i'm concerned
00:23:06.620 because if we don't get something done soon you might see something in on a cr but the guardrails
00:23:12.320 we're trying to put down is just real simple if you if you want to surveil and have access to
00:23:16.840 a u.s person's telecommunications data you need to be able to state a reasonable articulable
00:23:24.400 articulable suspicion or probable cause in other words get a warrant before you look at my my private
00:23:31.240 data i mean that's that's kind of like the what the fourth amendment's all about yeah you would think
00:23:37.420 and it's not just that our republican colleagues on the intelligence committee oppose the warrant
00:23:43.140 requirement that we are for they actually want to expand spying authorities to include like public
00:23:48.720 wi-fi so if you're at a mcdonald's having a cheeseburger and get onto the wi-fi all of a sudden
00:23:55.840 the constitutional protections that you'd be entitled to are diminished just by virtue of being on public
00:24:01.520 wi-fi does that concern you oh absolutely and um so and that pot that by the way that popped up after
00:24:08.540 seven months of negotiation it just popped up in the intel bill that we never even talked about
00:24:12.580 so uh yeah i mean i've i've told them in no uncertain terms that that provision cannot be
00:24:19.740 in any base bill that we agree to um and we'll see how it goes because i i do believe the speaker wants
00:24:25.900 to get something done sooner rather than later and i think he wants a base bill that but that i'm afraid
00:24:31.500 that the base bill the things that we agree to but the intel will refuses to budge i can't think of
00:24:37.460 any situation where they they would support a warrant well we then have to look people don't want to hear
00:24:43.780 this but then we have to work with democrats if if republicans won't stand up for civil liberties and
00:24:51.140 the fourth amendment and a warrant requirement i have no problem working with liberal democrats who
00:24:55.980 hate my guts to try to get those things accomplished i mean do you have any reticence to that
00:24:59.620 none at all in fact my bill was a bipartisan bill bicameral bill when not one of my uh lead
00:25:05.980 uh co-sponsors was jerry nadler for pete sakes a bigs nadler bill hard to believe not not that probably
00:25:15.020 probably a one-of-a-kinder i don't know we're gonna have too many of those yeah that that was
00:25:19.200 that was a unicorn my friend all right yeah well andy biggs truly is the smartest guy in congress when
00:25:24.460 it comes to the border and border policies he's also one of the great litigators we have if his
00:25:29.620 prediction is correct that upon the return of majority leader steve scalise will be passing an
00:25:33.540 impeachment then you will be seeing andy biggs as one of our impeachment managers over in the senate
00:25:38.960 putting mayorkas on trial and i really think that's going to ignite the american people of all states
00:25:45.700 of all political persuasions to demand accountability and to demand a closed border now we want to focus
00:25:51.980 on something going on in south africa that i think is going to really surprise you uh the chairman of
00:25:58.660 the ascendant economic freedom fighters political party in south africa is a guy named julius malena
00:26:06.140 he's got some uh pretty genocidal thoughts about white people take a listen we'll discuss on the other
00:26:11.760 side must never be scared to kill a revolution demand that at some point there must be killing because
00:26:24.120 the killing is part of a revolutionary act i i don't know what's going to happen in the future
00:26:31.900 i'm saying to you we've not called for the killing of white people at least for now i can't guarantee the
00:26:38.540 future yeah but i mean you'd understand somebody watching that especially as it gets shared on
00:26:43.560 twitter they freak out it sounds like a genocidal cry babies cry babies i'm not calling for the
00:26:49.880 slaughter of white people at least for now i can't give you a guarantee of the future especially when 0.74
00:26:55.980 things are going the way they are subtext especially think if things are going the way they are 0.93
00:27:01.080 there will be a revolution in this country i can tell you now
00:27:03.840 we're back live in the rumble studios for the first time here in washington dc quite the setup
00:27:11.740 that was the chairman of the economic freedom fighters party julius malena perhaps the next
00:27:17.580 president of south africa there's an election that'll be later in 2024 and joining me now to
00:27:23.740 discuss this is my legislative council in our in our office here in washington dc john wilson
00:27:29.440 uh john has uh studied these things a good bit and gives us advice on matters of foreign and domestic
00:27:34.780 policy so john what is going on in south africa first of all thanks for having me it's great to
00:27:39.680 be on love the show um south africa is is absolute mess i mean their economy is in the gutter uh crime 0.99
00:27:47.140 is rampant it's rape capital of the world and the solution for the economic freedom fighters and 0.97
00:27:51.840 julius malena is to genocide white farmers you know get rid of the farmers that are providing food for 0.96
00:27:58.720 you which we know how that went in zimbabwe rhodesia it ends with hyperinflation economic collapse and worse
00:28:05.260 and when you look at the situation you get really got to realize what type of guy julius malena is this
00:28:11.540 is a person who was head of the african national congress youth federation and ended up leaving because
00:28:17.640 he was too radical that's like leaving the democratic socialists of america because you
00:28:22.480 think they're a little pink up i mean this is a very dangerous guy and if he ends up gaining seats
00:28:27.760 in this next election you know south africa everybody over there is in trouble i'm not an
00:28:32.320 expert on south african politics but these rallies he's hosting are enormous and there seems to be some
00:28:38.120 enthusiasm there uh is it a likelihood you think that they could gain more seats sufficient to have him
00:28:44.060 you know as part of a coalition government or god forbid even even the leader of the country
00:28:48.740 it's hard to say if they can overtake uh the the anc but i i expect they will gain a lot of seats
00:28:54.120 i mean it's an attractive ideology to a lot of people i mean it's just blunt force marxism i mean
00:29:00.060 all marxism really is anyway as we know is hate what is beautiful hate what is good and hate those that
00:29:05.320 are better off than you i wonder how the globalist entities are going to respond to this john because
00:29:09.520 they the critiques of south africa the movement of south africa to become more of a continental
00:29:18.360 hegemon you know the the global communities reacted to that in different ways like is there going to be
00:29:24.620 some renunciation of this or is is this critical race theory to the global scale is this what global
00:29:31.960 crt looks like that if people are white and you feel aggrieved by them you're justified in in killing 0.79
00:29:38.480 them yeah i wouldn't get my hopes up for any sort of globalist condemnation of what's going on with 0.98
00:29:43.520 melima in south africa i mean already he has the backing of a lot of globalist ngos and institutions
00:29:48.700 just the other day after one of his speeches where he called for the you know kill the boar
00:29:53.560 the adl puts up a defense of him on their website and says that it's not a call for white genocide
00:29:59.540 that's conspiracy theory you know it's just a decolonization well contrast with how the adl views you
00:30:06.380 know from the river to the sea and you can tell these guys aren't acting in good faith and then
00:30:10.340 you look at what's recently has happened in israel on october 7th we know exactly what they mean
00:30:14.720 by decolonize and we need to take them at their word they mean murder and displaced and that's what 0.71
00:30:20.820 they're trying to do to the boars and the farmers in south africa and i don't i don't foresee any
00:30:24.540 globalist institution condemning that do you think they'll be it will result in white flight like you saw
00:30:30.140 in rhodesia i think it absolutely will it's already doing that i mean um the funny thing is robert
00:30:36.180 mugaby some years after the fact begged the farmers to come back said please come back you know grow our
00:30:41.620 crops um things went to hell in a handbasket over there and that's possibly what could happen in
00:30:46.880 south africa if you were to gain power and it would be a great opportunity for the united states
00:30:50.960 as well you know you got a couple million boar farmers over there you bring them here you know you
00:30:56.760 drop them off in swing states they will produce they will reproduce you know they vote red and if 0.82
00:31:02.120 i mean i can't imagine anything that's going to get the democrats to the table in immigration
00:31:05.500 faster than bringing a bunch of poor white south african farmers to the united states we found an 1.00
00:31:10.520 asylum class that john wilson supports we uh south african farmers well uh thanks for that update and i
00:31:16.940 want to make sure that people continue to stay informed on that before we get out of here we want to
00:31:20.800 thank the good folks at rumble for allowing us to come and take over their studios here for
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00:31:30.860 on with the big border fight the government funding fight and hopefully some upcoming accountability for
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