Episode 152 LIVE： Spying, Spending & Security (feat. Rep. Lauren Boebert) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz
Summary
Breaking news about a new national security threat all over cable, everyone s talking about it. Is it space aliens, is it some sort of new pandemic? Is it a space alien race? Or is it a new kind of pandemic...
Transcript
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matt gates the biggest firebrand inside of the house of representatives you're not taking matt
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gates off the board okay because matt gates is an american patriot and matt gates is an american
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hero we will not continue to allow the uniparty to run this town without a fight i want to thank
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you matt gates for holding the line matt gates is a courageous man if we had hundreds of matt gates
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in dc the country turns around it's that simple he's so tough he's so strong he's smart and he
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loves this country matt gates it is the honor of my life to fight alongside each and every one of you
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we will save america it's choose your fighter time send in the firebrands
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breaking news about a national security threat all over cable everyone's talking about it is it
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space aliens is it some sort of new pandemic here's the fox news report so an update for you now on
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this new national security threat that the head of the house intelligence committee congressman mike
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turner is urgently warning about he and the other members of the gang of eight have got a meeting
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with the national security advisor jake sullivan uh i believe it's tomorrow night uh but ahead of
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that meeting turner is saying that the white house needs to declassify information on this new threat
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so that everybody in congress can have a look at it uh we're working our sources to try to find out
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what this is all about jackie heinrich has been doing that as well she's got some information for us
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what do you hear jackie uh well john i've just been speaking with a pentagon official and they
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confirmed to me that this uh has to do with a threat related to space uh we already have from
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our other sourcing um that there has been reporting on the hill uh that sources here have confirmed is
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in the ballpark uh which which is that it has to do with a emerging capability from russia that would
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be of grave seriousness um potentially but that the threat is not immediate my sense in the briefing it
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seemed like jake sullivan was there today to talk about other issues he was there to talk about the
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need to get uh the foreign aid passed in congress uh he was there to talk about the fisa bill that needs
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reauthorization uh and there are is opposition uh really across both parties to uh certain pieces of
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that bill that they think would undermine national security if it were not to happen so he was making
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that case to the press as he's been making that case to members of congress and i think this question
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kind of came out of nowhere uh and it was all prompted by this this press release that mike turner
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sent out uh warning folks that the biden administration needs to declassify urgently this information so that
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conversations can start that's the piece that i paid attention to in that release was that we need
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to be able to have a conversation with our allies and partners about how we're going to deal with this
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threat and that tells me that they haven't dealt with it just yet uh and so if you cast that against
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the reporting that we have uh from our sourcing that this is an emerging military capability uh from
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russia reportedly involving space according to a pentagon official uh we're getting the building blocks
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of of what this might be but the president and relevant agencies are going to have to address
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a lot of questions that we have about them now guys we are back live and hear me now the game you
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are watching is not the game that is actually being played i think it was incredibly irresponsible
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for house intelligence committee chairman mike turner to go out and gaslight the country
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alleging this national security threat and of course there are real threats going on all the time that
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we want our committees and our congressmen focused on but without being able to discuss the country or
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the matter here's what i can say i read the intelligence today and while of course these types of things
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require us to keep an eye on them it was not like markedly different than other similar types of
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intelligence analysis that we have received that i have uh been briefed on for several years now as
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a seven-year member of the house armed services committee and so then it really begs the question
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why why were you gaslit why was there this big overarching claim of the eminency of some harm to
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the american people and it's exactly what congresswoman lauren boebert was briefing you on at the top of the
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show you see in the house of representatives we are working to block a nearly 100 billion dollar
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deficit spend and we're concerned that that deficit spend isn't going to make the world safer giving
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money to ukraine any other kind of provocations around it could actually make the world considerably
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less safe and so you had boebert saying conservatives stuck together killed this bad bill and then right
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on the heels of that you have mike turner out there saying oh this big national security threat
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and you watch they'll try to use the veneer of this threat to try to justify spying on you
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spending your money driving up prices and being inflationary so we're joined now by congresswoman
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boebert congresswoman how would you encapsulate the victory of the house of representatives against this
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bad nearly 100 billion dollar bill because as you and i both know mitch mcconnell wins a lot like when
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he stitches together a deal he often prevails but we have the strength and the fortitude so
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how how do you assess that yes well first of all i don't think that this is over uh mitch mcconnell
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certainly is not going to give up on his uh his lifelong dream of funding ukraine and endless
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foreign wars uh but this was a massive victory for conservatives and we are proving that when we stick
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together we can block bad legislation bad deficit spending we're 34 trillion dollars in debt more than
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two trillion dollar annual deficit and uh this this proves that uh we can we can kill things in
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the senate we don't have to be bullied by them we don't have to be pressured by them and we still have
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leverage in the house of representatives to not bring it up uh bring up bad legislation and and say
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that we won't uh this power of no the power of the power of no and sometimes like there is such an
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anxiousness in this town to just be for something be for some deal pat yourself on the back and act as if
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that's something that is accomplished but oftentimes having the ability to resist corrupt bad and
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dangerous things help us out a great deal more how would you apply that analysis to this government
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funding fight we're in because you and i i don't think are we are not cheerleaders for shutdowns we
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would like to see the government actually work on behalf of the people we care about our troops our
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veterans but at the same time uh we are potentially faced with an in a really high spending bill
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increases to a lot of the priorities that we don't care for a lot of the amendments that you offered
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to get accountability at the bureau of land management the department of interior those
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were rejected by republicans so how how can we balance our goal of ensuring that the government
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does what we need to do while at the same time not just falling into the trap of acquiescence and
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surrender yes well it seems here in washington dc that um bipartisan is is actually a very dangerous
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thing you know we want to make anything bipartisan to show that there is support on both sides of the
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aisle but that doesn't mean that it's good for the country you and i have been battling the spending
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uh certainly since i've been here but especially last january when we stood up to kevin mccarthy and
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said we wanted rules changed we want individual appropriations bills we want uh to go line by line
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with this programmatic spending and get our spending under control back to pre-covid levels we're not in a
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pandemic we don't need to spend that much anymore and so this is a fight that you and i have been in
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and it's it's really frustrating when our own conference is okay with more debt because it's
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republican debt because we're in the majority and we're the ones who are actually spending it
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that doesn't make it better there are plenty of things that we can go through and still cut
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but then all of this you're you're talking about the american people being gaslit
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well look fisa's up for reauthorization and and now that we we have um these national security
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um supplemental aids uh that are coming up and they're they're being uh pushed into a place of fear
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to want to support these things without offsets without you see because i have no problem if you want
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people want to make the argument that they think we should give america's money away if they want
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to make that argument i'll make a different argument and the best ideas can prevail but what what
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really just gores me is the continued suggestion that there's nothing we can cut in our budget
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everything is just more more more and then the american people end up paying more prices like are
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you are you hearing from people in colorado about the impact of these prices and like i'm sensing people
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are getting the connection between the deficits we run and the prices they pay yes well of course it's
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the reckless spending in washington dc that is impacting coloradans uh their inability to afford
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groceries the way they once did uh pay their utility bills afford gas to get to work to to run their
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kids around uh to different sporting events or to school or whatever it may be the cost of living is
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up and uh even even back home the the answer is well can the federal government just give us more
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money to make housing affordable no the answer is not to throw more money at at a problem we actually
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need to take care of our deficits here in washington dc and and be uh we need to be good stewards of the
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tax dollars that come our way and and of course we need to ramp up our american energy development we
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have got to start producing more here if we are going to make living affordable once again so so with all
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of this deficit spending uh just like you i'm for uh actually paying for it we we voted in favor of
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cutting the 87 000 irs agents you know just buy enough to fund israel we we passed that legislation
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sent it over to the senate the senate looked at it ignored it said to heck with you guys yeah because
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they only believe in foreign aid that has no other reduction in funding anywhere else and that is
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inflationary yes and it is hurting people and before when you talked about inflation people kind of
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looked at you like you should have green eye shades on or something but it's um it's devouring
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people's family budgets and you make a really good point about one of the antidotes that inflation
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being our strategy on energy and you know we passed hr1 you were on you were one of the principal
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architects of that legislation on the natural resources committee do you think we need to leverage
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that more like we passed it and we sent it over to the senate and we talk about and this is the big
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house bill on energy i want you to talk about some of the features but to me it almost seems like
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everything that joe biden wants or the senate wants we should be putting our energy legislation
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on it and then making that argument about prices but just if people don't know about hr1 tell them
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what's in it that actually unlocks this this potential yes well hr1 is our most important bill
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in this congress because it does unleash american energy production coming from rural colorado from
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western colorado i know all about energy development and and uh and the way it benefits all of us here at
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home currently we are funding both sides of this war with russia and ukraine uh we we need to ban
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that energy uh from russia and develop our own president trump had us energy independent we had
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energy security and that's where we need to get back to and we need to pursue energy dominance so we
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can liberate our allies across the world uh literally export freedom to them by by producing our resources
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but now biden has said we're not even going to produce going to export liquefied natural gas right
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and our lng is absolutely what needs who does that hurt like geographically where's the most lng
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development where you think people will be will struggle as a consequence of that decision
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all of our allies um certainly will hurt will be be hurt by this and and americans i mean right here at
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home look joe biden he he um deplenished our strategic petroleum reserves in the name of a midterm
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election not in the name of an emergency in the name of an election and that is uh that goes against
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everything that we stand for everything that we've done to produce that and store that up for the
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american people um but if if the activists are going to win if the the leftist extremist argument on
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energy is going to win well then we need to start exploring uranium and go nuclear on a lot of this
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stuff and that's something i just think that's corruption i think the reason we don't have modular
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nuclear in this country is because the new the nuclear regulatory commission doesn't want to
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approve it because then people wouldn't have to build 60 you know 16 billion dollar reactors you
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could have cheaper smaller reactors and rural america yes could be powered by nuclear well something that
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i'm pushing in craig colorado small little town coal mining town uh the the democrats have certainly won
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this argument with their their climate change agenda that is so extreme and they are shutting down this
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coal-fired energy power plant by 2028 and they want to demolish uh three billion dollars in
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infrastructure and i said well wait a second let's look and actually see if we can develop um and input
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implement a small modular reactor there rather than just loading up craig colorado this beautiful
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mountain town with solar panels well let's do something that's actually efficient and good for the
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environment it is heartbreaking when i i was traveling montana recently and you see some of the beautiful
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landscapes of our nation carved up for all of these green new deal energy credits and it's not even it's
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a distortion of the energy market it's a destruction of so many beautiful natural spaces and a bunch of
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wall street guys are getting rich on it it's not even something that's really in all cases um inuring to
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the benefit of the people in these communities so i i wonder you know how how much that green new
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deal is going to be stretched over these remaining years of the biden administration where i think it
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was like 400 billion in in credits and now wall street's planning for two trillion that's right in
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credits and and this is another thing that we have fought really hard to repeal uh we said all all of
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these green new deal but wouldn't that be a good pay for absolutely to me like these things are
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related we're talking about the pains of the american people you could use the green new deal
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tax credits and you could do that as the offset to support israel or whatever else that is exactly
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what we should be doing because these uh green new deal subsidies are hurting the american people they
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are hurting our economy sure it may seem cheap but it's not free this is american tax dollars that are
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funding this and these corporations are getting rich off of it we're joined by congresswoman bobert of the
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great state of colorado we're talking about the big issues congress is facing from our debt and our
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spending to get that process back on track also this national security threat that i tend to think
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is more about somebody trying to get us to vote for a bad fisa bill which is what i think this is all
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about so you mentioned congresswoman bobert in uh in our discussion about the need for reform on these
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spying authorities and it very personally offensive to you and to me that these were the exact
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authorities used against president trump yes illegally without consequence um where do you where do you
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see the fisa battle right now uh well you know the the bill is off the floor this week for a vote uh and
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it's it's really interesting uh that we have this new national security threat you know there's an
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imminent danger uh the the folks back home and and i'm tired of politicians governing by fear trying to
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make afraid the people that they are here to protect and the argument is we have to surrender
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our constitutional rights we have to allow the government to be able to scoop up anything on a
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starbucks wi-fi or without a warrant do all that we have to do it because if not another 9-11
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right and that that's the construct that you think has people take a suboptimal path absolutely
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well i mean look at the patriot act i mean that that ushered in so much of this and and it's not
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temporary it's not just because we have this one threat that oh well just for a little bit we're
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going to spy on you and we need all of your information all of your data all of the phone
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calls and text messages that your phone carriers uh record and store and now the the government needs
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to look into those uh it nothing in the federal government is temporary there's nothing more
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permanent right than a temporary government program and and fisa is definitely one of those this is
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allowing um statutory legal spying on americans uh is completely unconstitutional and we have to
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have reforms there has to be warrants federal government if you want to spy on someone you
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better go get a warrant you better have a darn good reason uh to do it but also we have these
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amendments that we're wanting to place in there um that mimic uh one of the better fisa reform bills
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that you and i supported the jim jordan and andy biggs um fisa reform bill uh and we have these
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amendments um like warren davidson's the fourth amendment is not for sale yes so that's a really
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important bill the features of the fourth amendment are not for sale act uh prohibit the government from
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doing an end run around the courts and your rights by just buying data from commercial data brokers so
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data brokers are collecting data on all of you on all of us and they sell those to people who want you
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to like something or click something or purchase something now our government goes and buys data
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on you and they do so uh as as really a substitute for actual legal analysis and law enforcement work and
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so we want that included in any reauthorization of fisa and frankly congresswoman i have sensed a lot
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of resistance to that from some of our colleagues which is absolutely baffling we know that they spied on
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president trump at uh and his campaign they spied on him while he was president and all of us they are
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certainly looking into us uh just whenever they want and collecting and buying this data and how much
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are they they spending to to purchase this data on on americans uh well it's irrevocable once they do it
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and they violate someone's rights you're hosed it's a point that was made brilliantly by our colleague
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eric burleson at a press conference recently take a listen i think the question before us is pretty
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simple who do you stand with who do you trust more the american people or the deep state and if you ask
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the american people especially in my district they do not trust this place they don't trust what's what
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the fbi has been doing they don't they don't appreciate the actions towards their free speech or towards
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their religious liberty um whenever you hear examples of the fbi investigating the catholic church
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the american people should start having questions you the press should have questions which is why
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the this fisa reauthorization went through the a the the proper process it went through the judiciary
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committee it went through the amendment process in that committee and it had all eyes on it and it
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went through a vetting process the question is to the intel those members on the intelligence
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community what are you what are you so afraid of in the reforms what are you so afraid of getting a
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warrant and justifying your actions before you as as was mentioned continue to abuse the law every
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two seconds and violate someone's rights every two seconds look well i've i've i wish that this town
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and that the re the resources in the town dedicated enough time and attention to fix the border
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as they do to reauthorize fisa um but or to take down a good fisa bill so we're here to make sure that
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the american people know exactly where we stand and we want the american people to pay attention
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and ask themselves is my elected official are they with the deep state are they with me
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stark terms from congressman eric burleson you're with the deep state or you're with us i know lauren
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bobert's with us she's from colorado so lauren uh give a prediction where does this go are we gonna
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build a durable coalition to try to reform these authorities i am pretty optimistic about it because
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actually the democrats are with us you know i think a lot of the democrats don't want to see
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the fourth amendment trampled like this so this would be actually a rare instance of good bipartisanship
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but we're not deficit spending the country but i'll give you the last word on fisa uh yes so i i
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certainly hope that we could get to a good place on fisa and if anyone is wondering you know what um
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what is really going on here um with with fisa it is about growing the federal government and that's
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what we are here to stop if we can ever prevent um bad things from happening in dc and protect you
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then we are doing our job we don't need to pass new legislation next necessarily to do that but this
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needs to be reformed 702 needs to be reformed we need to have uh these amendments that allow for
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warrants we need to have um the amendments that do not allow the federal government to purchase your
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constitutional rights and uh and make you susceptible to uh forfeit those uh certainly in the name of
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fear and jd vance is on our side that's right and so jd vance here um he wrote a fantastic memo uh the
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senator uh he outlined that the democrats initial uh grounds for impeachment um was the impound control
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act and they were saying because president trump was withholding funds from ukraine uh that uh this was
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the grounds that they took immediately to to impeach him and they said he he withheld these funds um
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from ukraine and if these funds are are still active if we were to pass more funding for ukraine
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this congress and president trump assumes office in january 20 in january 20th 25 which we we know he
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will uh then they would be ready to impeach him again because he would again pause funding for ukraine
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because of the corruption that we know that we have seen he just wanted a simple answer about uh
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the prosecutor uh victor stokin so um what what is going on there why was he why was he fired uh when
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joe biden uh said it was a bribe yeah it was a bribe people don't pay bribes to not get stuff exactly
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and president trump wanted this investigated and they said since he paused this funding to ukraine that
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that is why they impeached him and that is ultimately what opened up all of this fisa for them to spy on
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president trump it's all connected that's why we've got to fight it kind of seeing the field in that
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particular way we do want to end the program with some bizarre news coming out of the congressional
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archives where some whacked out activists in like tevas went and covered themselves in pink paint
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and attempted unsuccessfully to desecrate the beautiful constitution of the united states this
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from the archives today we are determined to foment a rebellion we will not be helped account to laws
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in which we have no voice or representation this country's founded on the conditions that all men
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are created for critically and endowed with the inalienable rights of life liberty and the pursuit of
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happiness we're calling for all people to have all these rights not just wealthy white men
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we all deserve clean air water and a livable climate
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if firebrand's executive producer joel valdez were at the archives during this moment there
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wouldn't have been just pink paint flying around a great deal more lauren i know we cherish and love
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our constitution we believe all americans ought to have access to our great archives and our great
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documents it's heartbreaking to see those two people obviously who've never had a girlfriend
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uh it's just uh using what should be a celebratory place and a celebratory
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uh piece of american history for whatever that was uh yes this is absolutely shameful and had they
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been wearing maga hats uh there there would have been an immediate seizure and an arrest blow dart to
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the neck if they had a maga hat on and deservedly so anybody who's trying to tarnish the constitution
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well you know we were deeply offended when nancy pelosi ripped up uh president trump's state of the
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union address uh right there in the house chambers and uh you know all of these documents um you know
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they they have a sacred place and especially our constitution that we fight for each and every day to
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uphold and defend and uh to see uh someone attempting to desecrate it in that manner is absolutely
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shameful they were wearing tevas i believe which might be punishment enough but they deserve all the
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punishment they get i hope they were arrested we'll have to follow up on that congresswoman bobert thank
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you for everything you do for colorado thanks for being one of the best fighters in congress for the
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america first movement our audience appreciates you so much even when we don't have you on the show
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we're often playing your work in committee and on the floor and i think if people are really trying
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to figure out the news of this week like you said you got a government trying to grow you've got a
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group of people trying to protect folks liberties and at the end of the day far too many in this town
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are worried about things going on oceans away that have little direct impact on american life and
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we just want to we just want the people here to be focused on what matters to the american people and
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uh it often is uh is a challenge but i'm glad i have you uh as a great partner in that in that
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endeavor matt it's an honor to serve with you to fight next to you you know it's often you and i
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back to back to the very end of uh to the very end of the thing and uh you know when we hear things
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um trying to make afraid the american people um to say that there's a national security threat and
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gaslight the american people we know the real threat is our wide open southern border there
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have been more red flags because of our wide open southern border and the folks that are on the
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terrorist watch list coming in and that needs to be our priority uh securing that border and uh and
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making sure that we are protecting our people not creating endless wars and sending our money um all
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over the world that's not paid for it's so true like every major election is about one big question
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right i mean you had jimmy carter and the inflation you had reagan and like economic growth was the
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operative question you got into the the bush years and this national security stuff because we'd gone
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through 9-11 then with obama every election seemed to be about obamacare one way or the other and like
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i think we finally reached the elections cycle in american history that really is about the border yes
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is that i mean every everything i've seen just what i hear from people the border and is what's going
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to decide their vote that that's exactly right because it's all encompassing from human trafficking
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to the to the invasion itself um nearly uh eight million people yes the deaths that are taking place
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the cartel having operational control of our southern border uh all of this the fentanyl that's pouring
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in colorado's number two in the nation for fentanyl poisoning and uh you know it's devastating to
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look a mom in the eye and hear the story of her losing her child to fentanyl uh and so this is
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impacting everyone uh every state is now a border state but thankfully it took a little long uh but
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we did impeach secretary mayorkas last night uh he is impeached to the house of representatives and i'm
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proud to uh have been a part of that there has to be some accountability for what's going on at the
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border and it is a priority a first deliverable on accountability may there be many more thank you