The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - Episode 153 LIVE： Nathan Wade Nuked In Court (feat. Rep. Bob Good) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

00:00:00.000 matt gates the biggest firebrand inside of the house of representatives you're not taking matt

00:00:08.600 gates off the board okay because matt gates is an american patriot and matt gates is an american

00:00:13.920 hero we will not continue to allow the uniparty to run this town without a fight i want to thank you 1.00

00:00:21.480 matt gates for holding the line matt gates is a courageous man if we had hundreds of matt gates

00:00:28.520 in d.c the country turns around it's that simple he's so tough he's so strong he's smart and he

00:00:35.260 loves this country matt gates it is the honor of my life to fight alongside each and every one of you

00:00:43.060 we will save america it's choose your fighter time send in the firebrands 0.76

00:00:48.820 thank you for being here today for this important press conference addressing

00:00:58.220 a critical issue that's facing the house we're privileged here in this country to live

00:01:04.300 in a country where the constitution our founding document our highest law of the land places a limit

00:01:12.360 on government particularly the federal government and protects our citizens our constitution tells

00:01:18.560 the government what it can and cannot do our bill of rights those first 10 amendments were put in place

00:01:26.260 to further protect the citizens of the united states to protect the rights that are given to us by god

00:01:32.100 but thankfully enshrined to us in our constitution but every day in america someone will you'll often

00:01:39.980 hear someone joke about the government spying on us but sadly that is true that's true in our country

00:01:46.980 today current law allows the u.s government to collect data on you it's section 702 of the foreign

00:01:53.940 intelligence surveillance act or fisa but house republicans under the leadership of speaker

00:01:58.960 johnson are on the verge of reauthorizing visa this is the same law that the fbi used and abused mind 0.81

00:02:06.860 you to spy on president trump's campaign providing the impetus for the shameless false ridiculous russian 0.98

00:02:13.480 collusion scandal to prevent such a tragedy from happening to other americans conservatives have worked in

00:02:18.860 good faith throughout the reauthorization process to protect americans fourth amendment rights from deep

00:02:24.780 state agencies like the fbi and the nsa unfortunately the house intelligence committee and the dc swamp are

00:02:31.140 working overtime to make sure that fisa is reauthorized in a secret way as secretly as possible

00:02:37.900 and putting the constitutional rights of millions of americans instead of up front on the back burner

00:02:42.940 during this debate today with my colleagues who are assembled here you're going to hear or not during

00:02:47.280 this from my colleagues but during the larger debate you'll hear false narratives about this bill

00:02:51.880 supposedly restricting law enforcement from doing their job and hampering our ability to keep the

00:02:57.440 country safe and those claims frankly are false simply put anonymous bureaucrats have abused this tool

00:03:03.680 that was intended for foreign surveillance or of threats to spy on american citizens but conservatives are

00:03:11.400 fighting for strict reforms to this law fisa was reauthorized in 2018 since then the world has changed

00:03:17.900 from both a national security standpoint and technologically advanced standpoint that has resulted in more

00:03:23.180 of your data being in the hands of the tech companies we need to find that balance between keeping the nation safe

00:03:29.540 while protecting you from big government and prominently has to be the rights of u.s citizens

00:03:35.080 the free constitutional freedoms that are protected to us by this country

00:03:38.980 the judiciary bill was overwhelmingly approved on a bipartisan basis it turns out democrats

00:03:45.180 don't want to be spied on by their government either at the end of the day we've got to make sure

00:03:49.840 that our government can't keep spying on its citizens without a warrant that we can't keep buying data

00:03:55.580 that would otherwise require a warrant that the federal government cannot expand the spying to cover

00:04:00.800 local private wi-fi hotspots and that we can't allow the government this congress to allow

00:04:07.420 more ways for the federal government to spy on us that is congressman bob good of the commonwealth of

00:04:14.320 virginia leading the conservatives in fighting for our constitutional principles and rights as

00:04:19.240 folks in the deep state the intelligence community and the intelligence committee try to reauthorize one

00:04:24.420 of the most abused programs that exists in the federal government congressman good is my guest today and

00:04:30.180 we are live simulcast streaming out of the rumble studios in washington dc remember that the best way to

00:04:36.120 consume firebrand you want to download the rumble app make sure you've got notifications turned on

00:04:40.800 that time every way we go live you get the notice you get brought into the conversation so i'm joined now

00:04:46.840 by congressman good bob you are the leader of the freedom caucus in the house of representatives a lot of

00:04:53.180 people associate the freedom caucus as the the more conservative grouping of members but talk a little bit

00:05:00.080 about the freedom caucus that you lead the organizing principles of the group and where you think the

00:05:05.120 group impacts outcomes uh here in dc well one thing i often say matt thanks for having me great to be

00:05:10.640 with you my friend i often will say there's only there's two reasons why members of republican

00:05:14.540 conference aren't the freedom caucus either they're not really conservative or they just don't have

00:05:18.860 the courage and i always have to correct myself and say matt gates is the glaring exception to that

00:05:23.940 because matt is obviously a rock solid conservative who loves the country well we got a lot of

00:05:28.080 sympathizers and admirers uh massey and some others you know and matt has the courage it's unmatched

00:05:33.860 in congress but the freedom caucus exists to be the conservative anchor the conservative conscience

00:05:38.460 the tip of the spear on the issues and the policy to try to hold the party accountable to be who we

00:05:43.800 say we are to do what we say we will do to validate the trust that's placed in us when the american people

00:05:48.540 give us the majority to do the things that we campaign on secondly the freedom caucus exists to hold

00:05:53.920 leadership accountable and to be willing to confront our own team when we're wrong when we're off course

00:05:59.400 when we're not living up to the standards that we claim to hold as republicans and sadly and

00:06:04.580 unfortunately as you know because you're right there alongside us often you know leading the way

00:06:08.520 uh we spend most of our time battling those who are supposed to be our own team members

00:06:14.440 uh who are fighting us on the issue that that press conference was related we're fighting republicans

00:06:19.780 on reforming fisa in a way that puts the constitutional freedoms of americans first yeah i'm gonna get to

00:06:24.680 in a moment but broadly this freedom caucus brand has really really proliferated around the country

00:06:31.840 we're starting to see freedom caucus groups set up in state legislatures talk a little bit about how

00:06:38.420 the the goals that the freedom caucus has are served by this vertical integration strategy where

00:06:43.700 you're getting people in state government aligned with these principles yeah really excited we've got

00:06:47.980 11 or 12 state legislatures where we've started freedom caucus uh uh chapters if you will uh and

00:06:55.960 we want to do in all 50 states plan to do in all 50 states obviously some states are tougher than

00:06:59.420 others but you're looking again for courageous conservative warriors uh who will fight and take

00:07:04.060 the risks and once you get that target on your back in the state legislatures some places is worse

00:07:08.440 than it is in washington some of our uh chapters those members have been kicked out of the republican

00:07:13.520 party stripped of their committee assignments stripped of their parking privileges there's already

00:07:17.200 been retaliation against them so they're showing real courage but we did it for two reasons one we

00:07:21.440 want to win on the state level too we want the republican party to be on the state level what we're

00:07:26.400 trying to make the republican party be on the national level and then also uh we want to have sort of a

00:07:31.800 farm team if you will that we could have those who are fighting the good fight on the state level

00:07:36.260 that we could look to to support that hey if you're going to take all the risks on the state level

00:07:39.780 it's no different uh then you'd be the kind of candidate we'd want to support try to bring to

00:07:43.560 washington oh so it's not only the work they're doing now but it's really building that farm system

00:07:48.360 for absolutely for leaders at what better indication of how they'll fight here than having them

00:07:53.540 take the arrows take take the heat and fight for the right things with all the risks that come with

00:07:59.260 that when i got here people told me don't join the freedom caucus because it will reduce the amount

00:08:05.520 of special interest money that you can raise that lobbyists and PACs that sometimes give to both

00:08:11.840 republicans and democrats they have no problem giving to republicans and democrats but they have

00:08:16.360 a problem when donating to someone in the freedom caucus who who might stand up and fight on some of

00:08:22.220 these things um is that something that still exists today i think there's absolute truth to that and you

00:08:27.900 would know it because uh it's really about and again while you're not officially a member of the freedom

00:08:33.120 caucus yet but uh the stances that you take and the courage that you show and the loyalty to the

00:08:40.440 country to the constitution to doing what's right irrespective of party and what's in it for you

00:08:45.660 politically that's the reason why it's tough to get special interest money k street support wall

00:08:50.160 street support and so forth and that's true the freedom caucus as a unit and as a brand suffers in

00:08:55.840 that same way and part of it also is it's tougher to get on those committees where the money tends to

00:09:01.500 flow they call it a committees and they don't they don't measure and you know this better than i do but

00:09:05.720 they don't measure what's an a committee or b committee based on how important it is for the

00:09:09.480 country it's about how much money you tend to raise because you're on that committee so you know

00:09:14.040 financial services energy and commerce ways and means appropriations those kind of things where the

00:09:20.300 the high don't dollar donors want to influence what's happening you tend not to be able to get on

00:09:24.580 those committees very easily if you're in the freedom caucus and it does seem like a fork in the road

00:09:27.840 for a lot of people and how they behave here in washington because there's the group of people that say

00:09:33.640 as long as i'm getting the money i'm willing to take bad votes i'm willing i'll have the money to

00:09:39.540 explain away anything where maybe my constituents are critical and then there are people who say

00:09:44.360 i can't do that i'll take the the more righteous path from a policy standpoint and i'll just live with less

00:09:51.500 on kind of the campaign side and i think it i think it says a lot about people kind of which of those

00:09:56.520 paths uh they take but i do want to get to this fisa press conference that you led um this is very hot

00:10:02.320 it's upcoming in the next several weeks uh you assembled a group of republican conservatives

00:10:08.180 who are in a lot of ways civil libertarians people who believe in the constitution um just define the

00:10:14.740 battle space on faiza for my viewers who's fighting for what what do you think the key flashpoints are

00:10:20.840 well as you as you know uh you had two competing bills judiciary uh has jurisdiction over this issue

00:10:27.780 and you had a bill come out of judiciary which was a good bill you had a bill come out of the

00:10:31.480 intelligence committee which is not a good bill and didn't sufficiently uh put the premium or the

00:10:37.060 uh the priority on protecting americans constitutional liberties what they're putting the premium on is

00:10:41.100 allowing the deep state to be able to do whatever they want to do in the name of keeping us safe and

00:10:45.820 so it ought to be the judiciary committee that has has a priority here and it should be the judiciary

00:10:50.580 bill there's two competing bills uh but instead unfortunately there was compromise made and the

00:10:55.560 intelligence committee bill is the main text bill but then we're supposed to be having four good

00:11:00.500 amendments from the judiciary committee to try to make that bill as good as it can be and we're in

00:11:06.600 a battle right now in the conference because we were supposed to be voting on that bill today with

00:11:10.660 those amendments but the bottom line is the intelligence committee led by the speaker i'm sorry

00:11:16.400 the chairman mike turner essentially told the speaker hey we're not gonna vote we're gonna kill the

00:11:21.780 rule and not allow the bill to come to the floor if you if you have votes on these amendments these good

00:11:27.420 amendments that would require a warrant so even though the base bill is what the people who are

00:11:32.680 pro-spying want there's the pro-spying bill and the anti-spying bill so the pro-spying bill is the

00:11:37.800 is the basis but the group that you led in this press conference i was proud to be a participant

00:11:42.200 we're saying at least give us good amendments on a warrant on not expanding to searching anywhere in

00:11:49.140 public wi-fi to not allowing an end run around the fourth amendment by purchasing what websites you've

00:11:54.900 gone to or what emails you've sent from a data broker those types of things and if those amendments

00:11:59.940 were adopted i would think i could vote for the base bill that's right uh and and what they're

00:12:05.280 saying is even if they're considered they won't allow us to proceed onto the bill and the reason is

00:12:10.500 probably the democrats will vote with us on some of those won't they i think it's two things they're

00:12:13.880 afraid they'll pass and they'll restrict the ability of the deep state to continue to spy on

00:12:17.580 americans and expand that capacity which is what their bill does and then secondly they don't want it to 0.76

00:12:22.480 pass but they also don't want to have to vote against it turns out when you want to do bad

00:12:26.820 stuff in congress you don't want the american people to know what you're what you want to do

00:12:29.820 or what you intend to do and i know you relate to this i often say if you don't want people to know

00:12:34.500 how you vote then vote differently if you can't defend your vote then vote differently because we

00:12:38.520 don't care i know we don't care if the american people know how we vote because we're doing what we

00:12:42.480 believe is right we can defend it the american people are behind it but they they want to hide who

00:12:47.340 they are and what they're trying to do and as they were even trying to as you know to go into secret

00:12:51.480 session where they wouldn't have to operate out in the open for the american people to see it hasn't

00:12:55.300 happened in many years has rarely happened in congress and it it speaks to sincerity because

00:13:00.960 what i get a sense of is that people will forgive a disagreement on an issue if they think you

00:13:07.020 sincerely hold that view and that's well reasoned and thoughtful and they'll they'll uh you know move

00:13:12.940 to areas where they might agree with you to define how they think about you as a representative

00:13:17.580 but when you're not taking the votes and you're just playing this game then i think people get

00:13:23.580 really sensitive to like well where does my person even stand and are they telling me something different

00:13:27.500 than what's going on um let's get to this punch bowl report what is going on in republican house

00:13:32.920 leadership uh this report from jake sherman at punch bowl news notes a number of things that they say

00:13:39.480 are calamitous the legislation on the salt tax deduction was not one we proceeded on to because

00:13:46.300 the rule to allow that did not pass the fisa bill where we're describing some of these

00:13:52.140 concerns was pulled because it hasn't been worked out uh the chairman of our homeland security committee

00:13:57.840 mark green is not seeking re-election uh and we're not doing foreign aid without offsets and we're not

00:14:05.620 doing the ukraine money and the big national security package so at punch bowl news they say this is the sign

00:14:11.980 of a house of representatives in chaos but sometimes i actually measure our wins not based on what we

00:14:17.820 advance but what we stop if there's bad tax policy bad foreign policy bad spending policy sometimes it's

00:14:23.400 a good week to kill it so what's your assessment i mean do you view the events of these last couple

00:14:28.220 weeks as calamitous for the republican leadership you know we get asked that question a lot oh this is

00:14:33.000 the most unproductive congress ever we've done less harm to the american people than other congresses

00:14:37.760 have done isn't that awful but less is more as you know now a year from now we hope lord willing to be

00:14:42.940 here with president trump a majority in the senate an expanded majority in the house and then if we're

00:14:47.520 not doing things for the american people shame on us but when reporters will ask me that hey you guys

00:14:52.820 haven't passed much legislation you haven't got much to say okay what would you like me to get done

00:14:56.620 or us to get done that chuck schumer and joe biden would agree to so your definition of getting

00:15:00.760 things done is doing what democrats want to show we can govern no matter how poorly we govern

00:15:05.560 to show we can get things done no matter how harmful to the american people so while we don't

00:15:10.140 have a lot of victories with one house of one branch that we can have look what we accomplish

00:15:15.300 in terms of putting points on the board if we slowed things down and we did less harm and we

00:15:21.000 stopped the democrats from advancing the ball in the wrong direction we've done better than most

00:15:25.180 congresses and too often the republicans are willing to advance democrat priorities just for the sake of

00:15:30.420 motion if not progress they confuse motion and progress because sometimes you're moving in the

00:15:35.420 wrong direction that's exactly right let's join hands with the democrats show we can get things

00:15:39.320 done show we can govern show we can compromise and the american people lose and by the way we're not

00:15:44.700 saying we're allergic to working with democrats matter of fact we're trying yeah the very things that

00:15:49.700 that you were talking about i think were views that actually are held by some democrats who don't

00:15:54.080 want to see just warrantless searches occurring at people so we're not against working with democrats

00:15:58.240 we're against obfuscating liberal policy with the veneer of republican support uh which which

00:16:04.480 happens too often so there is some breaking news from cnn manu raju reporting that there is a new

00:16:09.520 skinny ukraine measure being negotiated uh brian fitzpatrick and don bacon to republicans who are

00:16:15.600 definitely more on on the other side of the conference than we are and they believe that we

00:16:20.980 could lash about 20 billion dollars in ukraine munitions to a remain in mexico policy on the border

00:16:29.180 they think they can go middle out on that getting some democrats 20 billion for uh ukraine we get

00:16:36.480 remain in mexico my initial sense of that having having not reviewed the legislation because it

00:16:42.040 hasn't been put out is that that's probably a bad deal for our country that if we're going to be in

00:16:46.660 some escalatory environment with russia just to be able to reinstitute a policy that joe biden could

00:16:52.220 with the stroke of a pen is really concerning just i know you haven't seen the bill either because it

00:16:57.340 doesn't yet exist but just the concept of taking remain in mexico in exchange for tens of billions

00:17:03.460 more for ukraine how do you think the freedom caucus is going to absorb that well i'm sure this

00:17:07.560 is the last 20 billion dollars that don bacon and the others are going to ask for their campaign

00:17:12.160 donating defense contract i mean their uh ukraine friends uh i'm sure this is the last 20 billion

00:17:17.160 dollars they'll ask for no i'm not for any supplemental it's not paid for okay so any any country any

00:17:22.460 place in the world we have to find offsets to pay for it yes when you got 34 trillion national debt

00:17:26.920 a 200 billion monthly deficit at some point that's got to matter the days of spending without

00:17:31.540 consequence are over with 40 year high inflation 20 year high interest rates our credit being

00:17:37.160 downgraded the american people suffering under the inflation and the interest rates those days are

00:17:41.460 over of where it was just an abstract concept for the economist with the with the vice with the

00:17:45.920 green visors on the banker's lamp uh so yeah it's got to start somewhere even israel's funding i think

00:17:51.660 we both voted the same way on that love israel they're i think our number one most important ally on the

00:17:56.080 world stage uh but we shouldn't be borrowing from the kids and the grandkids when we can cut climate

00:18:00.060 funding we can cut the un we can cut the irs expansion there's lots of low hanging fruit of spending

00:18:04.880 that's harmful to the country not only just wasteful so i'm for offsets because we got to turn the page

00:18:10.200 and stop doing unpaid poor supplementals that said i i think i share your view that i don't support

00:18:15.820 funding for ukraine anyway and i certainly wouldn't give money to this administration in the name of

00:18:21.020 them pretending to do something they're not going to do you know i i think you could make a case i'll

00:18:26.600 sound a little soft here if we had a true border security bill hr2 uh where we had enforcement

00:18:33.800 mechanisms where we meted out a little bit of money to essentially buy that border security for the

00:18:38.320 country and they didn't get the money until they performed and it was paid for with offsets not for

00:18:43.740 ukraine but for our country right yes for yeah that it's performance-based funding and that performance

00:18:49.140 is measured by border crossings exactly exactly that you could make an argument if you paid for

00:18:53.640 it with offsets and it was performance based on they had to actually execute the policy that

00:18:57.760 ended the border invasion you could make an argument for for negotiating that yeah i um i think only in

00:19:06.680 washington do we combine our border issue and ukraine's like it all you know we've done town halls together

00:19:12.800 uh i know you're you've got a lot of people that you serve as chairman of the freedom caucus

00:19:17.700 from around the country and i don't know if there's anywhere in america where people are sitting

00:19:21.500 down concerned about our border crisis and then immediately think well if only there was a way to

00:19:26.500 do this in ukraine at the same time now there are people who feel very passionately about ukraine

00:19:31.220 but even i don't think they view it as linked to our border and so it's this uniquely washington

00:19:37.040 concept and i think it's largely driven by the fact it's an open secret that mitch mcconnell views

00:19:42.360 the ukraine matter as central to his legacy even more so than the court and i do believe like as an

00:19:48.820 evangelical christian mike johnson really wants to get the israel aid done i do so uh and and i think

00:19:54.380 that that's not politics for him i think that that's a place with a 4 000 year connection to our

00:19:58.940 faith and so you don't want to see it overrun and that's a totally understandable uh perspective for

00:20:04.600 someone to have but when you find out what the presiding officers want then sometimes that becomes the

00:20:10.440 feature of of a deal and uh you know i look back at our appropriations process is probably the most

00:20:16.360 productive way to endeavor upon funding the government and we got criticized because we kept

00:20:22.340 people here late at night taking hundreds more votes than they were used to but even when we lose

00:20:28.020 those votes like do you view that as as like existentially bad for us because even when we lose

00:20:34.940 votes we're forcing people to take votes that's right so your perspective on that it'd be nice if we

00:20:39.340 could make other people vote the way we want to but we can't do that and so short of that what you

00:20:43.840 want is the opportunity to have the debate to have the fight to have the votes held to get people on

00:20:49.280 record and it's a shame because it's your point we had hundreds of amendment votes to cut specific

00:20:55.560 spending and almost all of those failed it's it's really a shame that they did in a republican conference

00:21:01.360 but at least we're exposing who the republican party is who's with the american people who's with

00:21:07.760 cutting spending who's with limiting government who's with who's for the constitution and i'd like

00:21:12.600 to think that might help in some primaries this year yeah i and by the way that's not a threat it's

00:21:16.760 just democracy yeah you know people see how folks vote then they choose who who their elected leaders

00:21:21.980 are uh final question i want to ask you as you as you lead the freedom caucus through these these

00:21:29.360 next uh several months and and beyond how are you going to gauge success how are you going to look at

00:21:35.260 freedom caucus and say this was we really achieved our objective here uh versus uh you know yet another

00:21:42.620 kind of entity in washington that that flummoxes around this crazy place well it's it's difficult for

00:21:50.080 us looking at past history and look at the lay land to predict you know significant uh measurable

00:21:56.680 success markers if you will uh we can predict lots of reasons why we think that uh failure and

00:22:03.760 surrenders in our future because that's what has happened with our conference but i look at last

00:22:08.440 week where the the ukraine funding bill combined with an amnesty bill masquerading as a phony border

00:22:15.680 security bill was killed and the freedom caucus and our conservative fighting allies like yourself were at

00:22:21.720 the forefront of killing that the messaging making it too painful too uncomfortable just untenable

00:22:27.680 for a number enough senator republican senators to vote for it and it fell apart conservative nation

00:22:34.020 rose up the american people rose up our friends in the movement rose up that was a win it's not not

00:22:39.120 time to stop and spike the football and celebrate because we knew the supplemental would come back

00:22:42.580 just minus pretending to have border security in it although that would as we both know that would

00:22:47.420 have made it actually worse because it would give political cover to those who are perpetrating the

00:22:50.900 invasion and make it look like they were doing the stumbling to stop the invasion while not doing

00:22:54.100 anything to stop it so that was a win uh winning on fisa would be huge because we will live with that

00:23:00.220 for years to come and it has a tremendous impact on the american people especially under this

00:23:05.840 administration and god willing we're only going to suffer another uh 10 months or so under this

00:23:10.880 administration uh but we were fighting an administration that we know is willing to do

00:23:15.580 anything not even pretending anymore they're going for broke because they know their goose is cooked if

00:23:19.600 president trump wins and we have house and senate majorities so i think fisa would be one trying to

00:23:25.660 you know to battle uh to try to get border security somehow uh in the equation it was supposed to be

00:23:32.580 part of the supplemental is what the speaker said that wasn't the play i wanted i wanted to tie it to

00:23:36.600 appropriations i don't think we're probably going to win that fight uh but uh to to reduce the harm

00:23:43.240 done in the spending battles is probably about the best we can do i'd love to see it be at the fra levels

00:23:47.600 at least that was last year which i voted against that it's too high but that it's crazy that like

00:23:52.640 even when you've you can almost pick any point in time and say like here i thought the spending was

00:23:58.200 too much and it just always goes up yeah and warren davidson our friend likes to say you got to fight

00:24:03.320 the battle you're in not the battle that you wish you in and sometimes you have to recalibrate and

00:24:06.780 say okay what could success the best semblance of success look like now and sometimes you just have

00:24:12.740 to again recalibrate that and do what you think is most right strategically to try to effectuate the

00:24:18.660 best outcome the other thing i'd like us to do is to help again uh as members and what we're doing

00:24:23.760 here but to try to influence uh conservative wins in those primaries to get more reinforcements

00:24:28.760 to expose again who the republican party is who's with us who's not with us in terms of fighting for

00:24:33.960 the things we tell the american people we will do if they give us the majority so that we can have a

00:24:37.960 better looking conference ideologically hopefully numerically i want it to be larger but i want it

00:24:42.380 to be larger with the right number of people no it's it's so key well how can folks follow the work

00:24:46.480 of your congressional office and the work of the house freedom caucus uh well they can uh follow uh

00:24:51.520 me at good.house.gov or at rep bob good am i allowed to say support me uh this is a congressional

00:24:57.860 podcast okay i cannot say that yeah we'll keep it on the official side but yeah at rep bob good and

00:25:03.320 good.house.gov awesome well thank you so much thanks for your terrific leadership thanks for

00:25:07.840 being my friend here in the united states congress bob good of the commonwealth of virginia we're proud

00:25:13.040 of him he's a terrific fire brand uh we did have a we're gonna let congressman good go but we will

00:25:18.740 leave you for a moment with uh a little snippet of a song from our friends at the article 3 project

00:25:24.260 take a listen

00:25:24.780 pulled into atlanta was feeling up my lady friend

00:25:41.580 just need a court where trump has to defend

00:25:48.480 say fanny can you hire me it won't be a kickback scheme i'll take my money leave my wife 0.92

00:25:59.680 all action has been in the georgia courtrooms today

00:26:29.660 as fonnie willis and nathan wade have taken the stand to describe their love and on the week of

00:26:35.540 valentine's day how could you not want to celebrate love so we're going to celebrate a little of nathan

00:26:41.000 wade's testimony right now take a listen when did your romantic relationship with miss willis begin

00:26:47.000 2022 when in 2022 early 2022

00:26:52.380 so you were appointed in november of 2021

00:26:56.880 yes ma'am and your relationship started early what's early january february

00:27:01.440 around march around march so in 2023 december you said you didn't have any receipts

00:27:08.920 i do not have any receipts i did not have any receipts

00:27:13.140 but you did travel with miss willis in 2023

00:27:16.400 correct i did and you traveled with her in 2022 correct

00:27:19.800 i did and you traveled with her in 2021 correct

00:27:22.840 no

00:27:24.060 so you only traveled with her in 2022 and 2023

00:27:27.360 2022 and 2023 is what i recall

00:27:30.940 that's what you recall

00:27:32.780 yes

00:27:33.380 okay so this roughly sharing travel you're saying she reimbursed you

00:27:37.040 she did

00:27:37.640 and where did you deposit the money she reimbursed you

00:27:41.340 oh it was cash she didn't she didn't give me any checks

00:27:43.880 so she paid you cash for her share of all these vacations 0.97

00:27:47.160 mr schaefer you'll step out if you do that again

00:27:49.020 yes ma'am

00:27:49.780 okay

00:27:50.080 and so all of the vacations that she took she paid you cash for

00:27:54.120 yes ma'am

00:27:56.080 and you purchased all of these vacations on your business credit card correct

00:28:00.640 yes ma'am

00:28:01.640 you did have sexual relationships with someone other than your spouse

00:28:05.840 during the course of the marriage

00:28:07.860 and during the period of separation

00:28:10.080 which included up to may the 30th of 2023

00:28:13.500 isn't that correct sir

00:28:15.180 the the my answer to this interrogatory

00:28:18.220 is none

00:28:19.140 is no

00:28:19.800 so you're saying

00:28:21.560 that you did not have sexual relationships with anyone

00:28:24.460 uh outside of your marriage

00:28:26.760 and the period of separation is during the period

00:28:29.740 then you're answering the question to this interrogatory correct sir

00:28:33.120 i'm saying during the course of my marriage

00:28:35.580 i did not have sexual relations to anyone

00:28:38.240 and this answer is no

00:28:39.300 well again your honor

00:28:41.220 i understand you can proceed mr

00:28:42.600 i need to

00:28:43.120 we need a yes or no

00:28:44.560 let's just get down to it

00:28:47.080 did you or did you not

00:28:48.960 by may the 30th

00:28:50.260 2023

00:28:51.400 have had sexual relations

00:28:53.740 with miss willis yes or no

00:28:55.500 yes or no

00:28:56.460 yes okay

00:28:57.400 now what you did

00:28:59.980 is you answered no to that question

00:29:02.020 didn't you or none

00:29:02.760 correct

00:29:03.120 i didn't answer no to the question you just asked

00:29:05.300 i answered no to the interrogatory question

00:29:07.500 and the interrogatory stands

00:29:09.320 uh that you answered

00:29:11.080 as a pleading

00:29:12.680 in a in a uh

00:29:14.680 in a civil proceeding your divorce case right

00:29:17.440 yes

00:29:17.980 that was some of the most incredible testimony from nathan wade

00:29:23.180 in his divorce litigation

00:29:24.660 he said he had not had sexual relations with anyone other than his wife

00:29:28.780 and now he's admitting that during that time

00:29:31.580 he was having sexual relations with fonnie willis 0.52

00:29:34.200 and he is choosing 0.50

00:29:35.500 in the questioning in live court

00:29:38.360 to parse the distinction between those two

00:29:41.180 as to his relationship with fonnie willis

00:29:43.160 like well were you having relations with anybody

00:29:45.100 no were you having relations with fonnie willis

00:29:47.640 yes

00:29:48.280 well those are two different questions

00:29:50.300 it's it's really remarkable

00:29:52.320 and these folks thought they were going to get trump

00:29:54.640 there they were

00:29:56.680 going on their little romantic junkets

00:29:59.160 probably planning for the moment

00:30:01.180 that they'd get some big job in the biden administration

00:30:04.280 or some job on cnn or msnbc

00:30:07.280 well you're on tv now

00:30:08.880 taking the stand answering the questions

00:30:11.760 and here's what we know

00:30:12.600 somebody is lying

00:30:14.100 wade's lying

00:30:16.340 willis is lying

00:30:17.420 they could both be lying

00:30:18.640 but

00:30:19.840 with this testimony

00:30:21.640 like even the

00:30:22.740 i don't think we have the clip

00:30:23.580 but even the folks on msnbc

00:30:25.560 are melting down over this

00:30:27.800 saying it's over

00:30:29.460 willis and wade have misrepresented themselves

00:30:33.040 to the court

00:30:34.080 maybe to multiple courts

00:30:35.240 based on whatever nathan wade had cooking in his divorce

00:30:38.040 but man the hubris

00:30:40.120 the hubris to think that they could get away with it

00:30:42.660 we understand now

00:30:43.440 fonnie willis is exploding on the stand

00:30:46.540 and i'm sure we'll have plenty to say about what that means

00:30:50.080 for oversight

00:30:51.260 when it comes to the house judiciary committee

00:30:53.560 and the grant programs

00:30:54.940 and all the corruption

00:30:56.520 and lies

00:30:57.760 they got cooking up

00:30:58.660 in fulton county

00:30:59.840 we'll be here to cover it

00:31:01.060 thank you so much for participating

00:31:02.940 we would only ask that you help share this episode

00:31:05.840 and the work that we're doing

00:31:07.040 so that more of our fellow americans can be informed

00:31:09.720 and engaged

00:31:10.640 and on the front line of the fight

00:31:11.920 thanks for being here

00:31:13.120 roll the credits

00:31:14.040 you

00:31:17.820 so

00:31:22.520 you

00:31:26.640 you

00:31:27.180 you

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The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - February 15, 2024

Episode 153 LIVE： Nathan Wade Nuked In Court (feat. Rep. Bob Good) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

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