The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - Episode 154 LIVE： Hunting Hunter (feat. Clint Lancaster) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

00:00:00.000 matt gates the biggest firebrand inside of the house of representatives you're not taking matt

00:00:08.440 gates off the board okay because matt gates is an american patriot and matt gates is an american

00:00:13.760 hero we will not continue to allow the uniparty to run this town without a fight i want to thank 1.00

00:00:20.920 you matt gates for holding the line matt gates is a courageous man if we had hundreds of matt gates

00:00:28.360 in dc the country turns around it's that simple he's so tough he's so strong he's smart and he

00:00:35.100 loves this country matt gates it is the honor of my life to fight alongside each and every one of you

00:00:42.920 we will save america it's choose your fighter time send in the firebrands 0.76

00:00:48.680 is it worth it more and more high profile republicans are asking

00:00:58.120 themselves that question and deciding the answer is no cnn's melanie zinona out today with a new

00:01:03.140 piece looking at why so many name brand republicans are just heading running even for the exit smell

00:01:09.400 she joins us now what's the consensus about why this is happening well of course there are a lot

00:01:15.460 of factors that go into a decision like this it's a very personal decision some lawmakers cited family

00:01:20.320 reasons others are running for higher office but one thing that me and my colleague annie graer

00:01:25.400 really picked up on was that there is an overwhelming amount of frustration right now

00:01:30.060 with just how dysfunctional the house particularly the house republican conference has been from all

00:01:35.580 the chaotic speaker drama to even just the struggle to pass basic procedural votes on the floor just take

00:01:41.360 a look at what some members told us on the record here ken buck one of those members retiring said

00:01:45.600 we're not doing serious things carlos jimenez told us i thought that some of our members would be

00:01:50.220 smarter steve womack we are fractured and don bacon told me when you have folks on your own team with

00:01:56.080 their knives out it makes it less enjoyable and you know it's not just the number of republicans who

00:02:01.480 are retiring it is the caliber of the people who are deciding to call it quicks there are five committee

00:02:06.540 chairmen chair chair women and chair men who are deciding to retire and that includes kathy mcmorris

00:02:11.640 rogers she is not even term limited yet on her top post on the energy and commerce committee that's a very

00:02:17.760 powerful position that some members work their entire careers to achieve and then also mike gallagher

00:02:22.940 he's only 39 years old and he was once seen as a rising star in the gop so there is a lot of concern

00:02:28.540 right now about a brain drain as these senior members decide to leave and take all of their institutional

00:02:33.820 knowledge with them and there's also concern about what this means for the governing wing of the gop as

00:02:39.440 those members decide to exit and its members hardliners like bob good who are largely blamed for a lot of the

00:02:45.040 turbulence and chaos who are deciding to stick around just a big big difference because to your

00:02:49.900 point that graphic we just saw those are some big names who have been there for a very long time and

00:02:53.800 really are responsible for making things go all right melanie zinona great reporting thanks so much

00:02:58.380 welcome to firebrand we are live i'm congressman matt gates we are back simulcast streaming out of

00:03:06.140 room 2021 in the rayburn house office building here in the capital complex in washington dc we're glad

00:03:11.220 you're with us at cnn they're melting down because the high caliber the name brand the governing wing

00:03:19.000 of the republican party they're deciding to call it quits because it's not so enjoyable when we

00:03:24.500 actually focus on i don't know using the leverage that we need to in this town to fix the border

00:03:30.160 drive down spending they don't like it but you know what if they want to blame me for it if they

00:03:34.900 want to blame bob good for the fact that we are changing congress because we don't think we can win

00:03:39.320 with the team we have well i think that's blame that we're willing to take so quite interesting

00:03:44.640 make sure by the way if you're watching this program you go download the rumble app and then

00:03:49.780 turn notifications on that's the best way to get those live updates to get the news immediately

00:03:55.400 direct from the source and the news in northwest florida is certainly sad today that i have to share

00:04:01.140 there are around 10 million illegal immigrants that have invaded our country since president biden took

00:04:05.420 office this number includes 1.8 million known gotaways and remember they're also unknown gotaways

00:04:11.680 but also 7.3 million border crossers most of whom have largely been paroled into the interior of the

00:04:17.760 country and they're waiting up to eight years for a court date now this reckless abuse of authority by

00:04:22.700 alejandro mayorkas and president biden is not without real life consequences yesterday a 21 year old

00:04:28.860 constituent of mine was killed when byron pineda recklessly changed lanes crashing into the 21

00:04:35.840 year old constituent of mines motorcycle knocking it into the median byron pineda as it turns out is

00:04:41.820 wanted by ice we don't know yet all the details of the crash and we don't know how byron pineda came

00:04:47.520 into the country whether he crossed the southern border and disappeared whether he was paroled by

00:04:52.180 alejandro mayorkas or maybe he's overstaying a visa but if alejandro mayorkas and the department of

00:04:56.820 homeland security were doing their job then my constituent might still be alive today and byron

00:05:02.660 pineda would be out of this country it's a sad sad state of affairs that we allow dereliction of duty

00:05:09.080 at the federal level to mean life or death in every congressional district in america and the fact

00:05:15.580 that this man was wanted by ice and yet felt bold enough to just drive around the streets of our

00:05:21.860 community that's terrifying the brazenness of it and you know why because nobody is getting deported

00:05:27.580 and especially not people whose chief crime is unlawful entry into the country so the fact that

00:05:33.020 this guy is on the list that ice actually was looking for to get rid of that's alarming my guess is he's

00:05:39.880 one bad hombre that's not just fentanyl or gang violence the externalities of rampant illegal immigration

00:05:45.900 affect every aspect of our daily lives even in the paradise of northwest florida there is no escaping

00:05:51.760 this crisis and the biden mayorkas administration has made their position clear they have no intention

00:05:57.500 of putting a stop to it they're actually facilitating it this is why it's more important than ever to

00:06:03.060 impeach secretary mayorkas to hold him accountable to convict him in the senate and then to ensure that

00:06:08.800 joe biden cannot do harm to our border or our nation going forward we cannot survive 10 million more 0.69

00:06:15.020 byron pinedas crossing our border of the next four years can't even survive hundreds of thousands

00:06:21.620 of those types of circumstances now there are other developments i want to talk to you about regarding

00:06:27.260 illegal aliens and voting a chinese national named kelly wong who cannot vote in the united states

00:06:34.840 has recently been sworn in to san francisco's election commission despite her lack of citizenship this

00:06:41.580 news from the new york post this means that a non-citizen who spoke cantonese during an interview

00:06:47.580 with local media before swearing in despite knowing english fluently will take part in overseeing

00:06:52.220 critical aspects of our election process this includes voter registration vote by mail policies

00:06:59.260 balloting voting locations drop boxes election observation chain of custody review

00:07:04.060 from someone who shouldn't who shouldn't be who's not a citizen like this is a basic premise if you're 0.85

00:07:13.020 not an american citizen you should not be in a position to have authority over our elections i can't even

00:07:19.000 believe we're having that debate that's why miss wong's unanimous appointment by san francisco's board of

00:07:25.260 supervisors to the city's elections commission demands more attention for multiple reasons coming from

00:07:31.260 hong kong in 2019 wong has worked with a san francisco-based advocacy group chinese for affirmative

00:07:38.380 action quite the name she reportedly plans to continue to work in this role even though she's going to be

00:07:46.220 part of the elections infrastructure the group was previously responsible for lobbying the government

00:07:50.460 to change the law to allow non-citizens to vote in san francisco school board elections if their children

00:07:56.380 attended school in the district this alone was controversial but wong's appointment to the

00:08:01.660 election commission takes things to a new level additionally the implications for national security

00:08:06.620 cannot be overstated with hundreds of chinese nationals entering the united states illegally through

00:08:10.940 the southern border from mexico wong's position on the election commission adds another layer of complexity

00:08:17.340 to the debate on immigration and electoral integrity the principle here is simple the integrity of our

00:08:23.500 elections is something that should be reserved for our citizens non-citizens 1.00

00:08:29.340 they don't that it only erodes our democracy to put them in positions to have that kind of primacy and that

00:08:35.180 kind of influence so it's not about xenophobia it's about safeguarding the electoral system for all americans and

00:08:42.140 giving us confidence in it the decision to appoint wong is a stark reminder of the need for a serious 0.99

00:08:47.900 conversation about who should hold authority it isn't just a local issue it's a national concern that strikes at the heart of our

00:08:55.740 democracy and our sovereignty in just moments i've got this terrific interview for you so

00:09:02.700 clint lancaster is a guy who's a fantastic whiz lawyer in arkansas he ends up representing joe biden's uh i'm sorry joe biden's

00:09:13.580 really her his granddaughter's mother so the woman who had a child with hunter biden who resides in arkansas

00:09:21.500 and has this family law dispute with hunter biden the lawyer for that case that got the dna swab

00:09:28.460 that got the child support matter sorted out that saw a lot of the financial stuff gonna be here in just

00:09:35.980 moments for an interview um but i wanted to let you know of a few other things that are are cooking

00:09:41.740 uh floridapolitics.com is reporting that the primary runoff proposal that the state of florida was

00:09:49.020 considering has been temporarily postponed in its first house hearing so the state of florida is

00:09:54.620 a system that is first past the post which means if you have the highest number of votes you advance

00:10:00.620 from the primary election to the general election seems like a pretty democratic and reasonable process

00:10:06.060 and that process has produced prosperity safe streets good schools a clean environment in florida

00:10:12.700 and with two weeks to go in the legislative session there were efforts by the house speaker paul renner

00:10:19.820 to airdrop a piece of legislation into the process to change 20 years of election law over the course of two

00:10:27.980 weeks that is irresponsible and the change they want to make is not a good one sure it's great if you're a

00:10:34.460 political consultant when you go from two elections the primary and the general to three elections the

00:10:39.820 primary the runoff and then the general oh political consultants love it they get to charge more money

00:10:44.940 they think it's great the media will champion it because they get to place more advertisements

00:10:50.300 but what does it mean for us we the people one it's a more target rich environment for fraud

00:10:56.300 feasors two it costs way more money and third it's actually quite anti-democratic because

00:11:01.340 the turnout in the runoff is so much lower than either the primary or the general it becomes a

00:11:06.780 funnel point some have predicted this was done to help the establishment ensure that if a firebrand 0.92

00:11:14.140 candidate in any election in florida was able to accumulate a plurality of the vote that that firebrand 1.00

00:11:21.980 that maga that america first candidate would face an additional hurdle of a runoff election so

00:11:28.380 we're against this we're glad this was temporarily postponed another matter i want to bring your

00:11:33.740 attention to axios is reporting house democrat floats mike johnson protection measure a moderate

00:11:40.060 house democrat is circulating a proposal to protect mike johnson republican of louisiana from potential

00:11:45.660 removal by an attempt of one of the party's hardliners the resolution authored by representative

00:11:50.780 josh gottheimer democrat of new jersey would require democrat or republican party leadership to sanction

00:11:57.900 any vote to vacate the speaker's chair according to a copy that was obtained by axios some democrats

00:12:03.660 have suggested they would oppose another conservative led motion to vacate they all were with me when we

00:12:10.460 were vacating mccarthy and as it comes to this negotiation over the motion to vacate i've been very clear

00:12:17.340 with the firebrand audience i am open to some increase in the threshold in the motion to vacate in exchange for

00:12:23.900 other accountability tools like a ban on congressional stock trading a lifetime ban on members of congress

00:12:30.220 becoming lobbyists or registered foreign agents and i don't think that lobbyists should be funding

00:12:35.100 our campaigns and we could do those things by house rule and if we did i'd be pretty open-minded to raising

00:12:41.980 the threshold in the motion to vacate but if if they want to erode an accountability tool and then continue

00:12:47.980 to not pass the accountability tools that the american people want on the stock trading ban i'm not so up

00:12:53.900 for that um also wanted to bring your attention to a local story from the city of pensacola pensacola is

00:12:59.900 finalizing a key sailing deal with american magic enhancing its national image on tuesday pensacola mayor dc

00:13:07.420 reeves a good friend of mine announced that the city council will review a 10-year lease agreement with

00:13:11.820 american magic as part of that deal the club would pay more than 291 000 per year the deal also would

00:13:18.940 call on the team to host a preliminary regatta in pensacola that would be so cool to have uh one of

00:13:25.180 the preliminary regattas in pensacola bay i would be thrilled by that uh it would also uh have uh two

00:13:32.060 national or international events in pensacola each and every year my wife ginger loves sailing she's got

00:13:38.460 friends on the american magic team and we love the fact that uh american magic out of the new york yacht

00:13:44.540 club will be calling pensacola home so they're just part of that great migration from new york to florida

00:13:53.420 for people that like nice things sailing good schools great weather low taxes ah this florida man so proud

00:14:01.660 of my state and so proud of mayor reeves for getting that done so i now want to get you to this great

00:14:07.100 interview with clint lancaster phenomenal attorney also an advocate on election integrity you won't

00:14:13.180 believe what's going on to block some of the accountability in the state of wisconsin to try to

00:14:19.260 get that state going the right direction on election integrity again so a lot of hunter biden stuff a lot of

00:14:25.500 election stuff take a listen recently i had the chance to be in the great state of arkansas with fellow

00:14:33.580 conservatives patriots those fighting for election integrity and i spent some time with clint lancaster

00:14:39.420 now clint is an arkansas attorney he served in the united states marine corps he was on the streets as a

00:14:46.460 certified public officer a field training officer and during his five-year career in law enforcement

00:14:52.780 clint made countless arrests that led to successful prosecutions i went to law school at the university of

00:14:59.020 arkansas now is the principal founder of the lancaster law firm in benton he's litigated over

00:15:05.260 2000 cases including a number of very high profile matters family law matters and he's on the program

00:15:11.260 to talk a little bit about the new things he's doing on election integrity but first clint actually

00:15:16.300 ended up serving as the attorney for the mother of one of hunter biden's children or his his child and

00:15:23.020 so i wanted to talk to clint because in a lot of ways the discovery that they got in that litigation

00:15:29.180 over family law issues revealed a lot about the biden family and some of the allegations and pleadings

00:15:36.060 in family court in arkansas are really interesting to talk about and review through the lens of what we

00:15:41.820 see biden family members testifying to in the halls of congress one of the jokes around here is that clint

00:15:47.740 lancaster might have done more actual oversight work than uh than some of our committees tasked with

00:15:52.940 that very purpose so clint thanks so much for joining us why don't you start by explaining to

00:15:57.020 the firebrand audience how you got to be involved in a case that dealt with the first family of course

00:16:02.860 matt it's good to see you again and thank you for having me on your show so literally um i uh i had a

00:16:08.060 woman call my office and schedule an appointment and she usually we always ask who the other party is to 1.00

00:16:13.980 make sure we don't have a conflict but she wouldn't say so i was like okay just come on in and so it was

00:16:19.420 london roberts she was uh her i want to say her sister-in-law or something like that was a former

00:16:25.580 client of ours mine and my wife and uh we uh she came in we met with her uh told her yeah sure i'd do it

00:16:33.260 and uh that's how i got the case now when when thinking about these family law matters generally one of

00:16:39.260 the first things you have to do in a case where there's a child support question is establish

00:16:43.820 paternity so talk a little bit about how the law on establishing paternity in the state of arkansas

00:16:50.140 functions and how in the matter you were litigating you actually got the dispositive dna test on on

00:16:56.460 hunter bide well it was a trick uh so you know right after we filed maybe six hours after we filed the

00:17:01.820 lawsuit i got a phone call from george mazeris from chicago and uh george was going to work with us kept

00:17:07.020 promising to do stuff and then uh he never would deliver so i'm like okay you either you're going to

00:17:11.340 deliver and we're going to serve your client and he laughed and said good luck and uh so i found uh

00:17:16.540 i did a pretty comprehensive nationwide search and i found one address off of uh sunset boulevard in

00:17:23.100 hollywood i thought well that's it you know and so we sent our process server out and it was uh the

00:17:28.460 same apartment that he he did a story with with the new yorker on but yeah nobody trusted each other with

00:17:35.180 this dna test um they didn't trust us and we didn't trust them and uh and my wife was adamant about

00:17:41.260 not letting hunter you know get out of this dna test somehow so she found a dna lab in oklahoma city 0.63

00:17:48.140 that was that opened up just for us on a saturday and so we headed as odd we headed to oklahoma city

00:17:55.500 listening to sean hannity talk about hunter biden and the china money uh and we got there and uh the they

00:18:03.100 had a i brought hunter in it was hunter his wife melissa and i watched him take the dna out of 0.99

00:18:09.740 his mouth like physically watched him do it in the same room had a conversation with melissa um then

00:18:15.900 they brought when was this clint when did this dna swab occur in oklahoma city on a saturday

00:18:21.500 november of 2019 okay so way before you had any subpoenas going to hunter biden from the house or the

00:18:30.780 senate way before we were getting documents or really any uh any of the most significant wire

00:18:37.420 transfers or bank records you were literally getting his dna and is that something that usually happens

00:18:43.260 in an arkansas paternity case i mean is this stuff usually stipulated give us a you do a lot of family

00:18:48.860 law so give us a flavor of how unusual this was this was unusual and how the dna was obtained because

00:18:55.180 usually uh you know most people will say okay yeah i know that's my kid and we don't have to do that

00:18:59.580 or they'll say um you know i want a dna test at which point you just go to a laboratory and you

00:19:05.340 send them in at separate times it could have been very easy for hunter just to walk into a dna lab

00:19:10.620 in california and get a dna swab and for us to do it in arkansas and avoid this but having him actually

00:19:17.180 physically come and i didn't trust him i didn't trust any of them and so i wanted to watch the dna process

00:19:23.340 work i wanted to know i wanted to know that the sample they took from hunter was the sample they

00:19:28.220 were testing and so and that established paternity right i mean that you having that chain of custody

00:19:34.540 where you were observing it right there in the lab you get the results that you were expecting based on

00:19:39.340 the the proffers of your client and you find out that hunter biden is indeed the father has his father

00:19:44.780 to child with with your client and as i understand it part of the litigation you're involved in

00:19:49.660 is over money and payments and finances um how did money kind of play into uh how you were

00:19:57.100 learning about the biden family and their activities so that that time period hunter was

00:20:01.500 still just kind of a blip on on the national radar and he had the burisma money and nobody really knew 0.78

00:20:07.660 like what how much he got they know it went to his firm but we were going to dive into it and know

00:20:12.860 exactly what he got and we did we had we found out down to the penny of what he got and we used that

00:20:18.380 that burisma money was a basis to set child support and so we never really so you found the burisma

00:20:24.300 money how did you find it did you get it through the normal request for production did you have to

00:20:27.740 subpoena banks how did how did you in this family law matter uncover the burisma stuff even before the

00:20:34.620 united states congress was really on it they gave we they had to give it to us through the discovery

00:20:39.420 process and we compelled them to do it what we missed uh at that time period we didn't know we had

00:20:44.700 missed it was the china money and so we knew we knew about that the second time around but hunter

00:20:50.460 biden wasn't making payments to your client as was previously occurring right was there some

00:20:56.060 interruption in the payments he was making well so london had worked for hunter and that's that's one

00:21:02.300 of the ways they knew each other and he was paying her a thousand around a thousand bucks a month

00:21:07.420 and um and hunter had acknowledged that this was his kid long before uh the baby was born but uh as

00:21:13.980 after the baby was born he cut off the money he got out of rehab and i guess he needed money or saw

00:21:19.660 that he was short so he's like i'm cutting all these people off and so my client just wanted the

00:21:24.700 thousand bucks a month and um you know and so she he ghosted her and so she found me and just you know

00:21:32.700 what i do is i put pressure on people until they give me what i want and so that's what i began doing

00:21:37.260 to hunter biden no doubt and it's it's just something when i'm hearing the testimony of jim biden

00:21:43.900 regarding the millions of dollars flowing in from the chinese all of all of this activity that

00:21:49.900 they're doing under the biden name you know you've got um you know you've got the other people in this

00:21:55.740 orbit really describing an enterprise that is influence peddling and sometimes influence peddling

00:22:01.900 is legal and sometimes it's illegal right that's why we're sorting through all this stuff but as

00:22:06.380 they've got that operation going here you are representing this woman and one thing that we saw the media

00:22:11.340 do that we saw really the biden operation was try to smear your client and to try to you know call

00:22:16.060 her a bunch of bad names and and refer to uh work that she had done or hadn't done talk about what it 0.99

00:22:23.180 was like advising and counseling someone who's on the opposite end of the biden and the media smear

00:22:29.900 campaign well i'll tell you for my wife and i it was a lot like living in a john grisham book that

00:22:36.300 we couldn't get out of every day it was something it was always just going and we would i never really

00:22:42.700 had any training in how to deal with the media but i became the media like front front person and what

00:22:48.060 we did was when it came down to things we didn't like we just didn't address them we just say well

00:22:52.300 you know they call and say was your client a stripper and we'd say well what does that have to do

00:22:57.020 with the fact that hunter is this kid's father and he needs to support her you tell me what that has to

00:23:01.740 do with that well they're trying to smear they're trying to say if she was a stripper then she's 1.00

00:23:05.660 somehow less worthy of the resources to be able to raise this child which is a pretty uh a pretty

00:23:11.740 grisly and and offensive suggestion but it's obviously the suggestion made when they try to

00:23:17.580 ripen that as a question right yeah well and so fortunately for us uh the media had also just come out

00:23:23.740 and reported that hunter biden was going across the street from strip clubs and buying dildos for the

00:23:28.380 strippers to use on him and so we have fed it back to him pretty heavily with that well they

00:23:33.580 might have opened up a can of worms there they they were not too interested in pursuing further than if

00:23:38.780 you uh if you had that level of factual development yeah they shut up after that but we did make a

00:23:44.060 policy that if you if you published that my client was a stripper we would not comment to you period

00:23:49.340 and box news you know jesse waters uh he always likes to say baby mama and uh he says it like that

00:23:56.460 and i'm pretty sure he's talking to me because i told him i wasn't going to talk to him because of

00:24:00.380 what he said well uh nothing wrong with being a baby mama right i mean that's not a smear well you know

00:24:06.700 she's a great mom and yeah she had a you they child support laws changed but you know the his attorney

00:24:12.140 in open court said that before it changed that london was getting five figures a month uh from hunter

00:24:19.020 and child support so where does that case stand now is it resolved is there a final order is there

00:24:24.220 anything else you've got a police regarding that jurisprudence going forward no it's over with

00:24:29.820 it's done we uh sat down for a deposition in little rock and hunter showed up for a deposition and my

00:24:35.260 client was there and uh you know we started asking him questions my client wasn't supposed to stay very

00:24:41.740 long and i didn't want to get into like a lot of grilling questions with her there but then her she 1.00

00:24:46.860 and hunter started talking and you know i tell people she's not anti-biden right the she didn't get

00:24:53.420 pregnant because she doesn't like biden's and you know the kid is uh wants a relationship with her 1.00

00:24:58.780 dad and that was more important than the amount of money that we were talking about that took the

00:25:04.620 as it should it took the precedent over financial aspects is the relationship that he might possibly

00:25:10.140 have with navy no we would hope that for every child for every parent no no matter how much we

00:25:16.460 disagree with them if they're willing to be in any way a nurturing part and and not a negative part

00:25:22.220 of a child's life that's something we're for so i want to move past that important work that you have

00:25:27.820 done to now the important work that you're doing on election integrity so the help is not coming from

00:25:35.100 the federal government on election integrity right in the senate it's their hope to block anything that

00:25:41.740 we would produce here the democrats vision that they presented under nancy pelosi fortunately we were

00:25:47.660 able to get stopped in the united states senate so the battle space has largely become the several

00:25:52.220 states and you've got states like arizona and wisconsin pennsylvania georgia michigan on the front

00:25:59.020 lines of this talk a little bit about how you've engaged now in the election integrity fight

00:26:04.300 so i got into election integrity my wife got me into election integrity when she volunteered us both to

00:26:09.020 go to madison wisconsin for the 2020 trump recount and through her work there we both got up got to

00:26:16.060 to represent trump in wisconsin on and i tell people not to release the cracking team the real

00:26:21.260 team of lawyers we split the wisconsin supreme court and lost overturning the election by one vote

00:26:26.700 um so that's how i initially got into it and then when justice michael gabelman was appointed

00:26:32.700 to do his investigation he hired me to come back to wisconsin and help him with the investigation

00:26:38.140 and then after that i came back and i just started you know had a lot of election law experience so

00:26:42.380 people started calling me to do recounts and make election challenges and so we've evolved from

00:26:47.740 that to now trying to change our election laws to make voting more secure and how would you describe

00:26:53.740 to like even a casual observer what what the state of our election integrity infrastructure is now

00:26:59.900 particularly in a state like wisconsin that could be highly dispositive where you've got some experience

00:27:04.780 so in wisconsin they have a lot of problems and it's it's very weak in wisconsin there's there's no

00:27:12.940 doubt i mean we had evidence of improper election activities that swayed the 2020 election in wisconsin

00:27:19.180 for biden that if they hadn't done this you know we're talking 20 000 votes and they knew that

00:27:24.940 and so that the problem is a lot of those infrastructure changes regardless of what the liberals say

00:27:29.980 that that were made to support 2020 are still in place you know you can still go in there and just

00:27:35.340 request a ballot be sent to you tell them you're in the military and basically with no proof of id no

00:27:40.860 verification they will mail you absentee ballots and they did this to fictional people we found that

00:27:46.860 and so what what's the antidote the antidote is to strengthen the laws you know so first off the

00:27:52.780 state laws right you're talking about state laws okay yeah i think i think state laws and i i would say

00:27:58.540 state laws because of the the cause you know the federal constitution doesn't permit the federal

00:28:03.500 government to regulate elections and we don't want that because as soon as the power tide turns that's

00:28:08.780 going to be used against us but at the state level to make our elections secure has to happen on a local

00:28:14.860 level and that's also important because elections happen at a local level even the presidential race is the

00:28:21.580 the voting happens at a very very local level so to stop the fraud to stop the abuse you have

00:28:27.980 to stop it at the local level so we saw that in georgia right the folks in georgia proved capable

00:28:34.380 of such shame and embarrassment that they went and fixed their laws they got stronger signature match

00:28:39.900 they got better chain of custody laws with their ballots and certainly i'm not entirely convinced that

00:28:45.820 we're going to have everything cleaned up in fulton county and dekab county but we've got more tools

00:28:50.460 at our disposal to catch the cheating as it's happening rather than trying to unwind the facts when you've

00:28:57.260 had legitimate ballots polluted with illegitimate ballots in wisconsin how are you tracking the

00:29:04.220 legislature's willingness to make those changes how are the grassroots efforts to try to get

00:29:09.100 legislators on board with ending this indiscriminate mailing of ballots so the biggest problem in

00:29:16.060 wisconsin right now is speaker of the assembly robin boss so he will not advance legislation that will

00:29:22.700 remove the weck administrator the wisconsin election commission's administrator who under her watch is

00:29:28.460 where all the fraud happened in 2020 she's still there and she's still gonna do it what's the 0.70

00:29:33.500 speaker's basis for this for blocking it what argument is made uh he i you know he doesn't have any real

00:29:40.460 good arguments other than what he says is well we don't know who will get in there or we don't need to

00:29:46.380 change it this soon or something along those lines but really what i think it is is that i think he's got a

00:29:51.660 financial connection to a vendor that the wisconsin elections commission is using oh so you think it's

00:29:56.220 just corrupt i think i think there's a level of corruption there there's really no other way to

00:30:00.860 explain it how do you as a republican leave the woman in charge of your elections who let who suspended

00:30:07.100 voting deputies in nursing homes where they force people to vote we have videos of people in nursing

00:30:12.220 homes that said we had we were told we had to vote joe biden or we couldn't live here any longer

00:30:16.860 that happened under her watch so if this if the speaker is doing this and if you perceive that

00:30:21.740 there could be some potential self-dealing feature to this um are are there other lawmakers that are

00:30:28.380 standing up to the speaker and are working to advance this yes representative janelle branchon uh from

00:30:35.420 wisconsin has been leading the fight up there she led the fight on the election uh uh investigation that

00:30:41.020 that the house did their house did up there and she's the one who's actually proposed legislation

00:30:46.540 to remove wagon megan wolf through impeachment which they can do that they have every every ability to do

00:30:52.220 that and the speaker will not let that resolution be called to the floor so they can impeach in the house

00:30:58.300 and they hold a majority in the senate and the senate's already um you know they've already tested

00:31:02.380 the waters and they'll have the votes in the senate but it's robin boss who stopped it personnel

00:31:06.780 is policy particularly when it comes to election integrity we knew this in florida when we had

00:31:12.540 supervisors of elections who were breaking the law who had been subject to judgments that they had

00:31:17.900 violated the state constitution on transparency requirements ronda sanus took the oath of office

00:31:24.380 and then fired the supervisors of elections in broward and palm beach county for their wicked ways and

00:31:30.220 the result was everybody else cleaned up their act a little bit because you got the sense that you

00:31:34.780 aren't going to just be able to break the law and keep your cushy six-figure job as a supervisor of

00:31:40.460 elections and we're all the better for that decision so i would encourage folks you know whether it's in

00:31:45.900 wisconsin georgia anywhere really if you have officials who are operating like outside of the color of law in

00:31:52.940 their actions you have to use the tools that are available for legislative removal executive removal

00:31:58.460 whatever you have to do and what you'll find is if you do that with a few folks you will raise the

00:32:03.180 floor you will raise the behavior of everybody so um i hope that that that that uh is something that

00:32:10.060 the wisconsin legislature takes real seriously um just final question let me add please let me add

00:32:16.540 this real quick if i could please um there's a recall effort underway in wisconsin to recall boss

00:32:21.820 out of his position as the senate or as the speaker of the house to just take him out of the house

00:32:25.900 completely so if you have listeners that are in wisconsin please get out there and support that

00:32:30.140 effort and you know get signatures so uh we believe that boss is a very much an anti-trumper he said

00:32:35.900 he'll do everything in his power to keep trump from getting re-elected and so let's just get rid of him

00:32:41.180 we think we have the votes if we can get the signatures well uh certainly if someone is standing

00:32:46.300 in the way of good policy and if if there's any connection to self-dealing uh that would be a that

00:32:52.700 would be a warranted endeavor so final question uh before we get out of here i want to i want to

00:32:58.220 ask it just big picture what is your confidence level that the 2024 election will not be stolen

00:33:07.180 low because right now a lot of the same things that existed are still out there and you don't have to

00:33:14.300 what people don't understand is you don't have to steal an election through a massive amount of numbers

00:33:18.780 you don't have to have widespread corruption to steal an election you can do it in a localized

00:33:25.660 area and it will be impactful and so i'm i'm not confident of it but what i am confident about is

00:33:31.020 that this time what's different is i see the rnc and trump and a lot of other people doing the groundwork

00:33:37.580 ahead of time where in 2020 we were reactionary we were just waiting for the plane to crash before we

00:33:43.820 started even trying to stop it and now we're trying that we're saying okay we got to make sure we

00:33:48.700 have infrastructure in place trump's now got a lawyer i think in every uh state that's standing

00:33:53.820 by and ready to do something with election stuff uh it's a lot more preventative this time around

00:34:00.780 but what we're still in the process of doing is catching them cheating instead of ending the ways

00:34:04.620 that they can cheat clint lancaster brilliant lawyer election integrity advocate he's doing it everywhere

00:34:11.740 from arkansas to wisconsin clint how can people follow your work and stay up with uh with the front

00:34:16.940 lines of this fight well i'm on twitter at arkansas clan i get on there and post it from time to time

00:34:22.380 when i have something interesting or developing you can also go to avii.org and that's the organization

00:34:28.540 that is supporting election integrity efforts across the united states so you can find us and our team

00:34:33.580 there awesome well thank you for joining us on firebrand thank you all for being with us roll the credits

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The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - February 22, 2024

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