Episode 156 LIVE： Kiss Uncanceled (feat. Rep. Scott Perry) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz
Summary
In this episode of Firebrand, Scott Perry joins us live from Room 2021 of the Rayburn House Office Building in Washington, D.C., where we discuss the massive spending bill passed by the House of Representatives today.
Transcript
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matt gates the biggest firebrand inside of the house of representatives you're not taking matt
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gates off the board okay because matt gates is an american patriot and matt gates is an american
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hero we will not continue to allow the uniparty to run this town without a fight i want to thank
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you matt gates for holding the line matt gates is a courageous man if we had hundreds of matt gates
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in dc the country turns around it's that simple he's so tough he's so strong he's smart and he
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loves this country matt gates it is the honor of my life to fight alongside each and every one of you
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we will save america it's choose your fighter time send in the firebrand
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welcome back to firebrand we are broadcasting live out of room 2021 of the rayburn house office
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building here at the capitol complex in washington dc we've got the uniparty moving massive spending
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bills with a ton of waste can't wait to talk about that also out in california if you can believe it
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they're actually extending even more benefits to illegal aliens we've got great news in the state
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of florida where our friend state representative joel rudman is advancing sound second amendment
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policy so that gun owners have the opportunity to purchase firearms lawfully in our state without
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these background checks in any way delaying that lawful access of rights and to talk about all of it
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i've got my very good friend from pennsylvania scott perry joining me scott uh has been in congress how
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many terms now i think five i think five yeah it's some days it feels like a minute some days it feels
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like a lifetime scott perry is the former chairman of the house freedom caucus someone who is a mentor
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of mine and always can be found ensuring that we've got less spending he's been a true warrior to try to
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close the southern border and really to use leverage and that's what we're here to talk about scott you
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know you have led the freedom caucus a lot of the conservative leaning members both in and out of the
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freedom caucus look to you for leadership and what we saw on the floor of the house today was an
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abomination a spending bill was moved with all the democrats with a majority of republicans no debate
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no debate uh it had overwhelming support i don't think we got a hundred no votes against it they
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worked it really hard to make sure that they they that as many people voted for it as they could
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possibly get they worked it really hard how would you describe the spending bill that just passed
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obscene um look it's devastating to the country people might not realize it we're we're at about
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a hundred days 120 days we're we're spending a trillion additional dollars every 120 days it just
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keeps getting faster and faster we just went uh 34 trillion between january or december and january will
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be at 35 trillion by may people say well why should i care you know you guys just print the money what
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does it matter because if you can't afford your meals if you can't afford gasoline if you can't
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afford your credit card bills your house payment if you're trying to decide between insurance payments
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or electricity payments it's all caused by what we just did today and and unfortunately there's a
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whole bunch of folks that will come to your town and run for office and say if you vote for me i'm going
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to end all that stuff and a whole bunch of them just voted for it a whole bunch and why i mean
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the the viewers to this program the folks who get these updates see what is happening to the country
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and they've seen the promises regarding the power of the purse right what is the essential element that
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you think is lacking in our colleagues to push back against this excessive spending uh yeah i would
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characterize it as two things one is courage the other is integrity so you always say this is what i'm
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going to do this isn't the integrity part but there's always some reason look i i got an earmark
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what we had 6 000 earmarks in this half of the bill and this half so earmarks used to be gone
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well they were here then they were gone now they're back again and so they're buying votes
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with earmarks did you have a favorite earmark in this bill well that was the stupidest craziest
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thing that there's a lot to choose from that's a big that's a pretty big menu matt uh the one in
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pennsylvania that senator casey and senator senator fetterman originally um supported was for
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some building where they were having as i understand this i don't know um gay sex parties
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and we're going to spend a million dollars on that and then they came out afterwards and said well hold
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on a second we don't support that so pennsylvania so did that receive a lot of support from like the
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pennsylvania dutch community like where where is the constituency in the in pennsylvania for the public
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funded erotica is it a senator casey priority is it a senator fetterman priority well it was one of
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their priorities until it wasn't one of their priorities so what this was for those of you who
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are watching there is some lgbtq community center in pennsylvania and these senators sought an earmark
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to give them extra funding for their operations million dollars and the libs of tiktok account went
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and found what some of the planned activities were there and they were bdsm activities and you know
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bring your handcuffs and whips and chains and we're not judgers here we're not the bedroom police but if
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you want to do that stuff you should do it on your own time and on your own dime and there should not
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be public funding right for that question is is why is there federal funding for this and a whole
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range of earmarks trails and roads and state things and they might be great projects but what does it
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have to do with the federal government but they bought the votes with so so integrity um there's
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always some programming you know i didn't want to vote for the whole thing but this was in here i had
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to do it because i needed this one thing and then courage you know the the rest of the crews going this
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way and if we don't do this the only alternative is a shutdown we're going to be accused of shutting
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down the government let's be clear here 85 percent of the government operates even through a shutdown so
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we're talking about 15 percent nobody came here not matt gates not scott perry to shut down the
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government what we did come to do is save the republic and and and if democrats and and i hate
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to say it some of our friends on the republican side of the aisle if it's worth it to them uh to keep on
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bringing in illegal foreign nationals to kill and rape our children such that we don't shut down the
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government have a conversation about it then they should defend that but i'm certainly not going to
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the chuck schumer center for environmental justice in new york well that's important
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that's a federal that's a can't you see the federal i just don't understand how they're going to invest
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a million dollars in the center for environmental justice without enhancing the carbon footprint of
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the center of environmental justice uh well it's and increasing the carbon footprint in pursuit of
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reducing carbon is always justified yeah the twin lakes reservoir floating solar project
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two million dollars for floating solar yeah because we don't want to take up land space so it's okay to
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take up water space so you get your yeah no in florida people might not know this everywhere but
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electricity and water are a bad thing well usually you don't like to mix those two yes put them on
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there so many earmarks you made mention of the funding of the va right uh as a part of this program
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and i know as a veteran you care deeply about the va we actually want a veteran health care system
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that that is focused on veterans yeah and and the best health care it was it was designed originally
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to be the best health care on the planet for veterans that have said they will sacrifice their
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life for their country that's what it was that was what it was designed or originally envisioned to be
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i know you know otherwise and and your criticism of our funding of the va includes a critique of us
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continuing to fund vax mandates right that's exactly right veterans who pledge their lives
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ought to be able to decide we understand if you've got to get a vaccine to go overseas to fight the enemy
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and and and make sure that the force is secure and safe in the combat zone we get that here's what
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we don't get forcing people that are willing to give up their lives to put something that's experimental
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in their bodies and then throw them out if they refuse to do it that's what we don't get and then
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and then for the va to force people to go to the va or work at the va to to put something like that in
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their body so that they continue to go to the va or work at the va is this is this communist a communist
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country i thought there's america but we have to fight back against that my frustration is that when
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we see the va pushing these experimental vax mandates on people we shouldn't we should demand
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different in order to continue their operations and you know we've got people like mike bost who
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have oversight capability chairman of the va committee and i haven't heard mike bost once
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uh offer a a substantive and leveraged criticism of the va such that we could actually change exactly
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what you say we should push back we should object to that matt gates and scott perry do but you had
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the chairman of the house armed services committee agreeing with the vax requirements for service members
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and agree with throwing them out if they didn't do it he was for it gosh it's so frustrating so the va
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has had quite a week we had the assistant under secretary for health operations issue a memo that
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canceled the vj day kiss in times square so we are familiar with this iconic image of a u.s service
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member coming home and getting the kiss of a lifetime and according to this memo our evolving
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sensibilities around sexual assault should have prohibited the publication of the the vj day
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kiss now ultimately uh this this was reversed uh kareen john pierre having to eat crow ticklish
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uh just i want to be really really clear the the va is not going to be banning this photo from
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uh va facilities i just want to be super super clear about that i know as you just said
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uh you described it as a kerfuffle uh there was uh obviously some reporting on that i can say that
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uh i can definitely say that the memo was not sanctioned uh so it's not something that we were
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even aware of until you all started reporting on it uh but uh we are not banning that photo uh and uh i'm
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just going to be super clear about that any specifics about the memo and the process over there
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certainly i would refer to the va so what she didn't say is is that we had every intention of doing
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that until we got caught right and she said it was unsanctioned which should lead you to believe
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the truth which is all these people that work in the biden administration do these things because
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that's what they do they don't have to look for approval they were hired to do this stuff and they
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do it of their own volition because that's what the administration wants them to do and finally i
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don't know whether you knew that that photograph was staged right it wasn't like some guy just went
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on the street and found some random girl who wasn't interested in getting a kiss that was a time
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life photo that was actually staged they have no clue these people have no clue what they're talking
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about or quite honestly the magnitude of the ending of the war with japan on on service members and the
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country yeah the uh the axiom personnel is policy really flourishes here right because the biden
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administration they go and find these people and promote these people that are total woketopians right
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and then when you get a crazy decision by one of their employees like this they do what they can to
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distance themselves now in in my district in florida one post-deployment lust actually leads directly
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to family formation so we don't we don't uh discourage yeah we do not discourage post-deployment
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lust in florida's first congressional district but uh you know it it does dovetail into these very
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serious discussions we have about what kind of military we have right now and and what kind of
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value proposition are we offering young people who made the decision you did to serve talk a little
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bit about like why you signed up to serve in the military and kind of how you would might see a
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young person going through that decision making process today well for me i didn't really have a
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plan coming out of high school you know i kind of grew up like a weed because my family situation i
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think a lot of people find themselves or you just don't know it's time to grow up and you don't know
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what you're going to do and i had an opportunity to enlist and and i was always enamored by that
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service in uniform i i found it to be uh very alluring to me and and i will tell you matt it
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was one of the it was one of the seminal things in my life in my career that i did um that changed
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the trajectory of my entire life and it was so great for me i got to do awesome things that people
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only dream about right i really did and um but i will tell you and i could never imagine wanting
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to retire i started out as an enlisted guy i went to officer candidate school i got to go to flight
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school i got to fly all kinds of stuff and do incredible things deploy uh lead troops in battle
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and all that stuff and i never thought about retire i watched guys and gals retire and i thought well
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how could they leave what they're so you're the military it reflects you and you reflect it and they
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always said well you'll know when it's time when i got the um the order from my boss i'm i'm a one
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star general at the time and he says um one of your jobs one of your duty is to enforce the gender
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reassignment policy it kind of took stock in my in my time and in uniform and i said you know
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i reflect it and it reflects me but it's not reflecting me anymore i i that's not what i stand for i'm not
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going to force um these people that accept that and uh and so when you can't take orders anymore
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it's time it's time to go and i look at the value proposition that young people i'm so happy that
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people are willing to join but i watched a service member in uniform self-immolate in front of the
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israel embassy in washington in uniform um and then i we looked at his social media feed i don't want
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to serve next to a communist that hates our country i and and i think that young people that are
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smarter looking at it they say yeah i'm not going to pledge my life to serve with somebody that might
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shoot me in the back because it didn't agree with my political position i think that's the circumstance
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that we find ourselves in and that's why recruiting and retention is very difficult right now and of
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course the army and its infinite wisdom when you can't when you can't find people to meet the standards
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they're just lowering the standard that's not a plan for success against a military like china
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or any of our other adversaries that are serious about defeating the united states of america here's
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what i worry about when people kind of a self-deport from the military as as you're describing and as
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people of good virtue and patriotic spirit make other choices in their life does that then create a
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self-fulfilling prophecy in the military where it it veers even harder left i i think it does because
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what you're left with as as the pot boils down is a concentration of people where you might have
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different viewpoints when the pot's full but when as the pot as everybody that loves the country that
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will give their life for the country and wants to serve in a merit-based system that is fighting for
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the ideals of america when they all leave what is left is those who won't who don't believe in
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that's all that's left and and with all due respect to my colleagues here they say we got to buy more
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airplanes and ships and so on and so forth if we don't have the personnel that are willing to
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put themselves in them and go fight the enemy with their life it doesn't matter how capable the machinery is
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or how many you have that doesn't matter an army is and a military is based on its people and their
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beliefs and i guarantee you there's some 15 year old boy in china who's putting a 50 pound back
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pack on his back and going and marching 15 miles to impress his father that's who we're going to
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have to face not people that come into our military and say well i've got a different standard of dress i
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don't like this whole uniform thing so i got to be me sorry it's called the uniform service one form
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uni you're going to change who you were and now you're going to accept this or and if you don't want
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to we're good with that then go do something we need car salesmen and insurance people and but if
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you want to be in the military and potentially uh lose your life defending your country and and making
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the other person die for their country if you're not into that then you don't belong here you talk
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about your own life and how the military enriched it so much and i see in my own family and i see in my
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community so many for whom that has been true and and many for whom that is still true today and we
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can't ever let that flip where we're going into the military has has the outcome where people become
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less patriotic less virtuous less devoted to the principles that are central to the american experience
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we're not there yet but i think we're on the way to i do worry that i agree with you matt i mean it's
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uh i mean you're a great defender of our military and and you call the balls and strikes and some of
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our military leaders like we just because they're wearing a uniform doesn't mean they're they're doing
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the right thing at the right time for the right reasons and that's why we have to right that's that
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that is the obligation that we feel because that lieutenant or that sergeant or that airman they don't
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have the ability to question they deserve it it's our duty to do it because they can't right as we say in
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the military yours is not to question why yours is just to do and die but that's not matt gates and
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scott perry wearing this uniform ours is to question why that's right and we will continue to do so
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we've also got troubling reports from the border and what the state of california is doing to draw more
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people across the border illegally this just in from our friends at the national pulse california
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lawmakers are now proposing expanding the state's zero down home loan program to illegal aliens that's
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right so assembly bill 1840 gives zero down home loans to illegal aliens it is a slap in the face
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to the californians who are already struggling with some of the highest home prices in the nation
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97 higher than the national average like originally the california dream for all shared appreciation loans
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was launched in 2023 they put 300 million dollars into that the intent was to help first generation and
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first time home buyers but the california politicians could not help themselves their bleeding hearts and
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lack of brains prevailed in this case and in the filing of this bill california has already extended
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its taxpayer funded health care programs to illegal aliens right now 40 percent of the people in
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california are on cal med their medicaid product that means every person who is has a job who's paying for
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their own insurance is having to pay for like 80 percent of someone else's insurance as well and i would
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say there's not a single entitlement program now in california that somebody is not going to try to extend
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to illegal aliens all of this comes at a time when housing is unaffordable younger generations are seeing
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health care costs rise more bankruptcy for the working class and for the first time in america's history
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future generations expect to be worse off than their parents representative perry how do we deal with
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the fact that you've got states like california literally creating the pull factor across our border
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well i i think i'm a big believer in states rights that having been said the federal government doesn't need
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to participate and so if california wants to continue to elect leadership that disrespects and has
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contempt for its citizens i guess that's their business but the federal government should be
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should should quite honestly we shouldn't be spending a dime in california to make sure that
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these programs can can continue that if you've got enough money to give zero down home loans to
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illegal aliens crowding out americans and hard-working people then then you've got it so good
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you probably don't need a single federal dollar for anything well they do use federal dollars and if they
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didn't have them they wouldn't be able to do that but i imagine that california is trying to do whatever
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it can to um to make up for the loss of people that are disgorging from california right california
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is finally unfortunately losing population because citizens have had enough of being disrespected and
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and they're and they're leaving now in droves to arizona like people are leaving right the most temperate
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climate right boundless natural resources beautiful state yeah oceans yeah mountains vineyards they're
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leaving that for the deserts of arizona that were so inhospitable they were the last place that the u.s
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army stopped hunting the mormons and and it is it is because of policies like this and it's a really sad
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thing and you know uh you're from pennsylvania i'm from florida different than california but we have
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patriotic americans that live in every jurisdiction and i worry when we just look at a blue state and say
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oh well a bunch of crazies are running that place like we we leave our brothers and sisters behind
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who want to want a good life and deserve it they do deserve it this experiment of 50 individual states
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will only work if we allow there to be accountability for each individual state well i don't like i don't
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like and i don't agree with what california is doing to its citizens they keep electing those people
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and i can't fix that right but what i can do or i can i try to do as a federal guy is make sure that
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pennsylvania's hard-earned tax dollars don't go out to support that and quite honestly neither
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do florida as a matter of fact i don't think anybody's hard-earned tax dollars california
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wants to be crazy god bless them but they should pay for it you've got you and i are going to be
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getting together after the state of the union we got the state of the union coming up tomorrow
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at 11 30 on friday uh after the day after the state of the union we're going to be breaking down
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all of the biden blunders how can folks watch that and keep up with it uh it's going to be on a
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rumble channel you're the mess what's your rumble channel this is your chance to pitch
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rep rep scott perry at rumble oh my gosh you're such a boomer sometimes well on the rumble app
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if you follow the channel at reps i can do things you can't do matt gates many many like a push-up
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or a pull-up i can't do those things but you still can so so you're going to want to follow that you're
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going to want to subscribe and turn notifications on scott perry and i are going to be breaking it down
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what do you expect to hear from joe biden a lot of lying uh a lot of complaining a lot of blaming
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matt gates they were blaming you this morning on on morning joe by the way oh yes it's it's really
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my fan club on morning so i i expect on so i find it fascinating that they're telegraphing
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openly that they're gonna that president biden's going to talk about a reset does he not know that
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he's been president for three years so he wants to reset his own set and uh so i'll be happy to hear
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that because he's destroying the country financially he's projecting weakness internationally
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and if he wants to reset i'm all ears but i want to see what's actually going to change other than
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the rhetoric he's going to blame us i'm sure he's going to blame president trump for the border crisis
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who knows what he'll blame you for but uh but i want to know and i think americans the people that
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i work for the people that are struggling to pay their bills they want to know what reset's going to
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happen that's actually going to make a difference in their ability to afford you know college or
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well i guess he's he's kind of already done that right he's he's going to give he's going to give
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but that's going to make college more expensive right it's going to create a it's going to create
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a moral hazard right where if you're if you're just a hard-working joe or jill and you want to go to
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college you're going to see that bureaucracy increase as a consequence of this and ultimately
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those costs get get pushed everything we subsidize costs more because the people that are being
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subsidized say well we're going to get their prices raise the prices yeah exactly so it it it will be a lot
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of that i don't know that octogenarians are best positioned to sell resets like whenever someone
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over 80 says that something needs to be reset they're usually going through some sort of cardiac
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conversion uh not not a series of policy changes um but i do think that biden understands that if this
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election is a referendum on his policies that uh that he will be packing soon they they do he does
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clearly understand that and i think you know it as well matt i think america does uh so what i expect
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he's going to do is make it a contest between himself and people like us who is going to who
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he's going to characterize as destroying democracy and he's going to go back to that hallowed ground of
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january 6 that they can't seem to leave behind uh and blame all of us for that and try and reinvigorate
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that and put that for that in the forefront of everybody's minds i i literally think he's going to
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invoke that in the speech and say right now in the in this place this is where it happened and and
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these people did it i i guess there are some republicans and some democrats who want to make
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every day january 6th oh there's you know i believe january 6th was a bad day for the country
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i don't feel the need to relive it every day and in your district and mine people are more worried
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about their tomorrow yeah right than joe biden's january 6th but that's all they have to hang on
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what else what else are they going to what what successes have they had is it afghanistan is it
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energy policy is it the middle east is it uh is it the economy and jobs what success have they had
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that he's going to go out and tell us that the state of the union is strong meanwhile all the
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350 million americans that are living in it are going i don't think so what they want to sell as
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their success are these bills that have spent all this money but what we have to do is connect that
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spending to the pain that people are feeling and by the way i think that's why joe biden's
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underwater right now because people are making that connection for themselves and maybe we don't do a
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great job of course you have the media which is you know part of joe biden's operation but they act
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like everything's fine too but i know that the people i represent and i suspect the same same for you
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they tell me when i'm at the grocery store like ladies yell at me i'm not paying five dollars for
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eggs and you shouldn't have to but there it is i'm not paying 750 for a gallon of milk but there it is
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it didn't used to be that way and literally you know he's talking about he's got sesame street street
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talking about downsizing product you know cookie monster cookie monster when you've lost cookie
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monster yeah i think the politics have really gone a negative direction joe biden losing cookie
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monster we have not lost our true north that is standing up for the constitutional
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principles that would constrain government constrain its spending scott perry is one of the best in
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congress a true fire brand a leader a mentor someone we're very grateful to have how can folks
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follow your work on social media rep scott perry and uh your website what's your website
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perry.house.gov perry.house.gov all right sign up for scott perry's newsletter go to perry.house.gov
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it's an honor to have my friend here i do want to update everyone on an important story in florida
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you'll remember we had a recent field hearing regarding the abuses of atf and state representative
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joel rudman who comes from the florida panhandle pitched his legislation to stop background checks
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from impairing people's constitutional rights take a listen
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as was stated this bill does not prohibit background checks nor does it do away with any
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waiting periods we don't even remove the three-day waiting period that was added to long gun purchases
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back in 2018 although i could have i decided against pursuing that after talking to the families
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at parkland back in october historically ladies and gentlemen when the brady bill was passed back in 1993
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the fbi was originally given five days to do background checks and that was considered an
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awfully long period of time back then because every inquiry resulted in a phone call once the nix national
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database came online that federal policy changed to three business days which it still remains in fact
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technology has improved so much over the years that back in 2013 it was democratic senator joe manchin
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who suggested lowering the federal requirement to one business day for background checks
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now i'm not even asking for that i'm not even adding a single piece of language to the statute my bill
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simply removes the one sentence that's causing the issue and allows fdle to use the current three-day
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background checks procedures that are already in our statute that's right according to existing statute
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fdle is supposed to give firearm purchases and answer a decision in 24 working hours three business
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days i repeat it's already in statute my bill simply removes the one sentence that creates the ambiguity of
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the law florida statute 790.065 which i do not touch says that after three business days fdle must say one of
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three things you're either approved denied or they have a third option fdle can say we haven't found
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anything on you in three business days so you can receive your firearm but we reserve the right to take
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it back and this is how the majority of states operate and this is not risky only four conditional
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approvals out of every 10 000 background checks nationwide ends up being reversed and those
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firearms are retrieved by the atf rep escamani asked me friday and she mentioned today about the proper
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role of the atf not only is it the job of the atf to retrieve firearms from criminals who are disqualified
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from having them but the atf in my opinion should also do their job and prosecute them while they're at
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it because these individuals have committed a felony by lying on their background check that's how you do
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it not by persecuting my law abiding citizens in district three and making them wait six months for
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their legal purchase but by aggressively going after the criminals who aren't supposed to have these guns in
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the first place you cannot delay the expression of someone's god-given rights when they've done nothing
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wrong a right delayed is a right denied mr speaker my idol may have said these famous words back in 1775
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but they are no less true today i know not what course others may choose mr speaker but as for me
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give me liberty give me liberty or give me death with that i close
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the clerk will lock the machine and announce the vote 78 yeas 36 nays mr bigger show the bill passes read
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we are back live congratulations to representative rudman for standing up for gun owners we encourage
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the florida senate to take up representative rudman's good bill and pass it for the good folks in the
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sunshine state just another thing i want to update you on there's this great project a friend of mine
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greg struce runs it's the declaration of independence project where people are able to recommit themselves to
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the principles of the declaration of independence i recently signed my declaration inside the u.s capitol take a listen
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the declaration of independence is central to our nation's values our liberty our freedoms and i am
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proud to support the declaration of independence project and i'm here on the speaker of the house
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balcony in washington dc at our nation's capitol ready to sign my name
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