The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - Episode 165 LIVE： America Last Foreign Aid (feat. Reps. Andy Ogles & Anna Paulina Luna) - Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

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00:00:48.320 welcome back to firebrand we are broadcasting live from the friendly confines here at

00:00:58.260 the rumble studios in washington dc i'm going to be joined by two of my colleagues to go over the

00:01:03.180 work of the day and there was a foreign aid bill largely constructed by chuck schumer and mitch

00:01:08.080 mcconnell some months ago it was the globalist dreamboat of ideas everything from funding research

00:01:15.300 and development in other countries to a quarter of a billion dollars for the world bank and a whole

00:01:21.420 lot of money for ukraine not just money for lethal munitions in the fight but the funding of the

00:01:27.720 ukrainian government about 14 billion dollars worth so that was passed and in the house of

00:01:32.780 representatives at the time it received a very chilly reception we were more worried about the southern

00:01:37.400 border we were worried about america's uh growing bureaucratic nightmare and what we had to do to

00:01:43.220 constrain that and many of us were deeply concerned about spending seeking a process that would present

00:01:48.300 single subject spending bills over the typical continuing resolution omnibus structure uh so

00:01:54.680 we find ourselves today taking up this foreign aid bill and here's what they don't teach you in social

00:02:00.340 studies class whenever a piece of legislation of major import is considered before the house of

00:02:05.840 representatives before it is considered it has to be a subject to terms and conditions just like your

00:02:13.060 iphone is subject to terms and conditions every major bill we consider that can pass by a majority vote

00:02:18.840 would have terms and conditions applied those would include things like how long is each side going to

00:02:25.000 get to present debate how many amendments will be allowed what type of amendments will be allowed in some

00:02:30.640 cases which specific amendments can be allowed the rules discuss when the legislation will be voted on and

00:02:37.280 indeed when it will be sent to the united states senate for their consideration so there's a lot of

00:02:41.740 things that can be built into those terms and conditions and in the end you have to vote on

00:02:46.520 those and that is called the rule vote so you're going to hear my colleagues and i today discuss how we

00:02:51.340 voted on the rule what we believed is that this foreign aid bill was so america last and so bad we should

00:02:59.480 reject the terms and conditions to proceed on to that bill and they weren't good terms and conditions by the

00:03:05.940 way they took the single subject bills that we cared about and they lashed them together for ease of

00:03:11.540 passage in the united states senate and those terms and conditions didn't allow for a lot of the

00:03:16.580 republican conservative cost-saving amendments that we care about so here to discuss where we go from

00:03:23.200 here how we're going to proceed on to this foreign aid bill where the terms and conditions passed two

00:03:28.160 great firebrands my colleague from florida anna paulina luna and my colleague from tennessee andy ogles

00:03:33.760 both have been on the show before both have a lot to say about what's going on in washington

00:03:37.860 andy i'll start with you just your reaction to how the rule vote went today we voted no and yet

00:03:44.400 it overwhelmingly passed with democrats well i mean i think that's the important point is that this is a

00:03:49.260 democrat piece of legislation because you had more democrats voting for it than republicans and so this

00:03:54.380 is the schumer uh biden johnson bill that that unfortunately i think betrays the american public uh because

00:04:02.580 we have a southern border that's wide open fentanyl is a crisis that's touched touching all of america you

00:04:07.620 could have had a ukraine bill that had maybe remaining mexico in it and you know maybe then

00:04:11.840 it's palatable i'm not saying that it is but you know there's things that we could have done to make 0.95

00:04:15.920 it better for the american people but instead they jammed this crap down our throats anna you voted no

00:04:22.060 you've been messaging that conservatives should vote no i thought it was helpful that groups like the 0.96

00:04:27.320 heritage foundation and club for growth key voted this issue asking conservatives to vote no at the end

00:04:33.280 of the day fewer republicans voted for this rule than democrats how do you assess how it shook out

00:04:40.520 you know um i look at this and i think a lot of the republicans that would typically vote for a rule

00:04:45.340 one of their biggest concerns that i kept hearing and some of those were vets is that this uh rule

00:04:50.760 these bills funded both sides of what's happening right now with israel and hamas and so if you're

00:04:55.760 looking at it from that perspective you know i don't think it was by accident even last night we had

00:05:00.300 a reporter reach out saying that there was an article saying that oh well how could you vote

00:05:03.940 against funding that helps your district with these defense contractors well it's pretty simple i'm not

00:05:08.280 funded by the defense contractors and so i'm here to represent the interests of the american people

00:05:12.200 and my my constituents and so when you're seeing bills that essentially go into giving money to israel

00:05:17.940 but then at the same time giving humanitarian aid to gaza which could ultimately ends up in the hands

00:05:23.220 of hamas you you're basically funding both sides of the war and so that's exactly why i held strong in that

00:05:27.940 conviction and i think a lot of people people not in washington understand that and share that same

00:05:32.300 sentiment and what are you hearing from your district about how we you know proceeded now onto

00:05:38.700 this massive hundred billion dollar foreign aid bill at a time when our southern border is wide open

00:05:43.400 a lot of people you know the common question is is what's going on with johnson um i get that a lot

00:05:49.580 why is he doing what he's what he basically promised that he was going to do the exact opposite of

00:05:55.340 and so i try to tell people because this job you can get into the weeds on parliamentary procedure

00:06:01.080 but the fact is is that when people can't afford groceries and you're paying for pensions in ukraine

00:06:06.260 that's a problem we shouldn't be doing that so that should be a bipartisan position did you hear from

00:06:11.320 a lot of folks uh in in your office about about the bill and about the vote we just took yeah you

00:06:16.300 know we did a lot of messaging like anna did and what people need to understand is there's a lot of

00:06:20.300 stuff buried in this bill i mean you know because we do find ourselves if this goes forward as it's

00:06:25.800 constructed that you'll be on both sides of the the conflict with israel because we know we know this

00:06:31.160 is a fact that some of the money that goes into gaza is going to hamas you look at ukraine uh it part of

00:06:36.740 it funds the third regiment that's a neo-nazi group so at a time that israel's under attack are we

00:06:42.300 literally going to prop up nazis and in europe i'm guessing that's a bad idea i thought that the left

00:06:48.180 was against white supremacy until they're funding the the groups uh fighting in ukraine that have

00:06:54.540 white supremacy embedded in a lot of their imagery and messaging uh i guess they're willing to take

00:07:00.140 u.s taxpayer dollars to fund white supremacy abroad while calling every maga grandmother uh that's you 0.97

00:07:07.160 know wearing a wearing a red hat a white supremacist if they live across the street or trying to fund

00:07:11.960 programs in the military to go after that when they should be focusing on job and job readiness not

00:07:16.560 trying to basically use the military to politically hunt opposition you talked about the way speaker

00:07:21.080 johnson changed and how he thought about this foreign aid bill relative to the border and i want to get

00:07:26.860 into that because it makes up a lot of the feedback that i'm receiving just regular folks are looking at

00:07:31.780 this saying how are you guys prioritizing the eastern border of ukraine over the southern border

00:07:37.000 of the united states and we know you only have one half of one third of the government but folks want

00:07:42.200 to see us use leverage because i don't even think a bill would have to pass to put substantial downward

00:07:49.560 pressure on the border i think we would just have to force biden to return to the trump policies on

00:07:54.620 the border and then i think people in the election would say oh well we now know which policies work and

00:07:59.660 which policies don't work um and that used to be our viewpoint and we came off of that how do you think

00:08:06.140 that affects kind of our credibility as a conference i think we've lost credibility but i actually had some of

00:08:11.220 the more moderate members at the back so we actually sit kind of in the center part of the conference

00:08:15.320 where you can kind of see everything but we had some of the more moderate members coming into the

00:08:18.420 background and talking to us and saying we don't understand why hr2 is not being attached to this

00:08:22.000 because even in some of these this is the border bill i'm sorry yeah so you'll actually have some of

00:08:27.380 these more moderate districts whether they're in new york but they're getting completely just

00:08:30.940 devastated with what's happening with the illegal immigration us being from you know florida it's not so bad 0.61

00:08:36.220 but in other parts of the country i mean they are absolutely just getting destroyed by this

00:08:40.580 and so i think a lot of people are kind of wondering why is it that it seems like there's

00:08:45.320 coalition government now and things that we didn't agree to that we promised the american people we

00:08:49.860 would be delivering on earlier on in the year and then now you're seeing this pivot and and my

00:08:54.240 my response to them is that it can't change so you as a member have to make the decision like

00:08:58.760 there seems to be this idea that you can't do things like discharge petitions or vote against the

00:09:03.160 rule all of that is brainwashing into making you just a sheep so if you really want to come here

00:09:07.900 come up here and legislate you have to use those tools and sometimes that means bucking your own

00:09:11.700 party so in just moments there will be another vote on essentially hr2 what anna just described

00:09:18.580 there'll be another vote on that but we call that a show vote if someone tells you something is a show

00:09:22.940 vote it is intended uh to get people on record but it is not an effort to actually make law it is not

00:09:29.820 an effort to congeal into a policy outcome that would be more beneficial for the american people

00:09:36.620 so because we have a lot of colleagues who i think incorrectly voted for the terms and conditions to

00:09:43.300 proceed onto the foreign aid bill they're now creating in in just a few hours a show vote on a lot of the

00:09:49.900 features of hr2 under a suspension of the rules so this will not achieve two-thirds of the vote this will

00:09:56.320 not become law but it will be a way for people to go and tweet and post about how uh strong they are

00:10:04.860 against the border but it doesn't it doesn't really deliver an outcome or a result you know andy one of

00:10:10.460 the things that we talked about in strategy sessions was attaching to any ukraine aid a requirement that

00:10:16.980 only u.s citizens vote in u.s elections that was something that the freedom caucus really tried to

00:10:23.600 inject into this process uh ultimately was rejected by the speaker talk a little bit about how you would

00:10:29.600 advise to use leverage on those points yeah i mean look we have divided government we have three branches

00:10:36.700 of government and unfortunately what what we're seeing is a pattern is where and look you know

00:10:41.500 speaker johnson is a friend of mine i love him to death but that being said he's making bad play calls

00:10:46.700 and so when you're going to the senate and asking schumer what will you accept you're not negotiating

00:10:52.020 from a position of strength when you're going to the white house and literally asking biden what would

00:10:56.680 you sign you're not you're not negotiating negotiating from a position of strength and so we've got to

00:11:01.880 start pushing our agenda as the republican party which is to save the republic i mean and that you kind of

00:11:08.700 touched on it this whole issue of congress you know has low favorability ratings you know what's our

00:11:13.760 credibility like but you know on my show we had this montage and it was floating around twitter or x

00:11:18.820 of a speaker johnson it's like border border border we're not doing ukraine without border you know

00:11:24.220 it's border border border and then what do we end up doing we're going to do ukraine without

00:11:30.000 functionally substantively you know closing our southern border that is a problem and so uh we need a speaker

00:11:36.720 we need our speaker to stand up and fight fight fight for our country and to me that means not voting

00:11:43.320 to proceed on to something that should not be on the agenda uh one of our republican colleagues dr murphy

00:11:49.040 a congressman from north carolina said that any vote against the terms and conditions uh rendered a

00:11:56.000 republican a political terrorist uh i disagreed with that strongly i think that they can vote their way

00:12:02.500 we can vote our way but on your reaction to dr murphy saying that if we if we vote against proceeding

00:12:08.700 on to one of these bad bills that that that somehow is like a war crime that that breaks

00:12:14.500 all the mores yeah that is exactly what i was addressing earlier and that they try to bring

00:12:19.580 you up here especially as freshman freshman members of congress and try to brainwash you into basically

00:12:24.640 doing what they want you to do but you are then not representing your district the american people

00:12:29.100 so i actually liked your perspective on it and that if you were voting for this you're actually voting

00:12:33.440 for the invasion because ultimately that's exactly what it's doing these whole messaging bills i mean

00:12:38.180 you can also have a perfect example we voted to stop the assault on the fourth amendment with fisa

00:12:44.280 which was something that to our disappointment went down in a ball of flames do you think this is

00:12:50.260 cumulative by the way i mean we were fighting so hard on spending all of us and then we see them

00:12:56.080 fight against us on the fourth amendment and now we see this like i i think had we been successful

00:13:02.240 along the way at single subject spending bills or getting a warrant on fisa maybe we wouldn't feel

00:13:07.000 as burned as we do on this crappy foreign aid bill well all it's doing is just exposing that these

00:13:12.520 people they keep saying that they don't want to take tough votes last time i checked the fourth

00:13:16.500 amendment was not a tough vote you're supposed to defend that last time i checked funding both sides

00:13:21.860 of the war makes you a sociopath and last time i checked if you're calling your fellow colleagues

00:13:26.140 a terrorist because you don't like how we voted you're a beta male beta male call out here on 0.84

00:13:32.440 firebrand expect expect no less all right i want to get into the individual provisions and i want to

00:13:37.200 start with the israel bill on the israel bill i have concerns about deficit spending to send money to

00:13:43.360 any country even if that country is a great ally and even if that country is is under attack i think

00:13:48.800 that there are ways to make reductions in our budget what i believe is we ought to defund the u.n

00:13:53.800 to get the money to israel since the u.n has become such an anti-israel entity that way you not only

00:13:59.920 help israel by getting them the resources but you also help them by defunding one of their adversaries

00:14:06.200 which would be the u.n so you actually get value out of the pay for uh so i didn't like the deficit

00:14:11.660 spending i won't be voting for the israel aid because there are no offsets because the amendments

00:14:16.460 the terms and conditions we would have liked to put in those reductions to the u.n in order to pay for

00:14:22.060 israel were not allowed to be considered um but you andy you've done so many pro-israel bills uh

00:14:28.260 on this israel vote that you're about to take how do you assess it you know we see this unprecedented

00:14:33.760 attack from iran um walk through your thinking yeah i mean it's unfortunate you know what i personally

00:14:40.400 advise the speaker he could do is if you put a clean uh israel bill on the house floor uh and you

00:14:46.480 could do a pay for and it could be a non-controversial pay for i mean there's clawback

00:14:50.600 covid funds that are uncertain there's wasted money laying around everywhere up here so you could

00:14:55.280 do a non-controversial pay for and it would pass and then you could put ukraine on the floor

00:15:00.480 you could attach something like remain in mexico and it would pass you could do something for taiwan

00:15:06.640 and by the way they've already spent 20 billion dollars on u.s weapons and armaments that have

00:15:12.180 not been delivered to them because they're going to ukraine which is a problem in and of itself

00:15:16.360 because you have china ratcheting up their aggression towards taiwan and so there was a

00:15:21.840 path that was i think would have been less painful uh but it would it would have required the speaker

00:15:27.820 to really push back against the war hawks and say here's the play play call may not get everything

00:15:33.380 that you want but you're going to get most of what you want and i think as a conference we would

00:15:37.480 have been more united but now with the the posture we honor are you voting for the israel provision of the

00:15:42.420 bill i'm torn i mean obviously i'm one of the outspoken supporters of israel one of the most i

00:15:48.300 don't know if i don't know if there are a whole lot of members who filed as many israel bills as you

00:15:51.740 have that's right i had 18 amendments yesterday uh you want to guess how many were made in order

00:15:56.140 zero that's right that's right so uh as of right now i'm a lean no um but but it's a tough vote but if

00:16:01.900 those amendments would have been offered even if they hadn't been adopted see my theory is if you

00:16:06.140 would have given me a chance to go after the u.n to try to to help israel or to vote on some of the

00:16:11.160 ogles amendments i might have been more inclined to vote for the the overall deal but the fact that

00:16:15.480 we're forced into borrowing money from china to give it to israel is just such a bad way to think

00:16:21.400 about it how do you think about it i'm torn right now mainly because i mean you go back to the u.n

00:16:25.340 the u.n also too is guilty of abuses against women i mean literally most of the countries on the u.n

00:16:31.500 human rights council which is just so ironic have literally had some of the worst uh policies with

00:16:35.540 women ever but i mean you look at the whole process and the way that they handle this and that you

00:16:40.960 we can't openly amend this and that it has to go through the speaker's office and they're

00:16:45.060 effectively governing by martial law is kind of what it's what i look at it as and so i'm at the

00:16:50.740 point now where i obviously support our allies but it's like how could you expect us to then vote

00:16:54.880 for funding on a bill that actually has funding contained that's going to help uh places and

00:16:59.720 individuals that are going to hurt israel in itself you're basically funding the slaughter of 0.74

00:17:02.880 israelis and i said that and i know that and i know that uh this is highly technical but those

00:17:08.020 terms and conditions again they weave all this together you don't like that they weave the israel 1.00

00:17:13.420 money to the gaza aid money we all don't like that that it weaves this money to the ukraine it's not as

00:17:20.200 if we have the opportunity for a vote on israel that would only be about israel because the terms

00:17:25.340 and conditions tether israel to ukraine which is kind of where i want to go next the the 60 billion

00:17:31.120 here for ukraine the entire united states marine corps is 50 billion so we could have another marine

00:17:37.940 corps and 10 billion dollars in our pocket or we could do this bill 14 billion plus for direct

00:17:43.800 government support for ukraine i also think that even the armaments risk escalatory accident because

00:17:50.160 we have not yet heard from the biden administration what winning looks like when i was asking some of

00:17:54.940 their senior officials in armed services they were saying we're going to fight until they repatriated

00:17:59.220 crimea which is crazy so on the ukraine vote andy how you voting i'm gonna know anna i'm gonna all

00:18:06.380 right any different reasons or kind of aligned with i keep saying this and i keep trying to tell as many

00:18:10.420 people as this as i can i actually physically went to poland and i met with the ukrainian parliament i

00:18:15.160 met with their speaker and they literally told us in a bipartisan delegation they demanded f-35s which by

00:18:21.440 the way ukraine chose to not join nato in the 90s the bbc has an article on it i know the left wants to

00:18:27.680 argue that that didn't happen that actually happened they had an opportunity they did not

00:18:31.060 join therefore why is it our responsibility to then give them our tax dollars our funding our

00:18:36.580 protection when they chose not to do so um that's my main thing and then the second thing is is that

00:18:41.300 they told us that they wanted to create a mercenary army off of the equipment that we were giving them

00:18:45.960 i'm sorry but like we should not be funding mercenary armies period how is that a controversial

00:18:52.180 statement it's not controversial and i had all of these people blue check mafia i think that they're

00:18:56.560 bots actually on twitter or x uh try to you know come for us but the thing is like i don't care i'm

00:19:01.880 not you know sponsored by the government of ukraine i represent the american people and i don't want

00:19:05.680 mercenary armies so i'm gonna know i actually asked one of our colleagues in conference like are you

00:19:10.020 worried that in ukraine they're going to run out of men before they run out of bullets which none of

00:19:14.900 us root for but we have to look at the math here and he looked at me and said they'll always be

00:19:19.540 mercenaries willing to fight see and i thought man that's crazy what are we going to go like

00:19:23.100 get a bunch of africans and drop them off in europe and give them weapons and all in the name of peace 0.95

00:19:30.280 and defending democracy doesn't really sound very democratic to me well i mean even if you wanted

00:19:35.880 let's let's say hypothetically i wanted to support ukraine right i can't in good conscience vote to

00:19:42.960 send them money lake and riley is dead because of the southern border just roughly three weeks ago

00:19:48.820 there's a 14 year old girl raped in virginia by an illegal because the southern border is open

00:19:53.880 three weeks ago 14 year old girl in louisiana was raped by an illegal because the southern border is

00:19:59.940 open we've caught 300 terrorists at the southern border there's an iranian hitman loose in our

00:20:04.660 country that we're trying to find who has a hit list of american politicians because of the southern

00:20:09.520 border enough is enough so if i have to choose between america and another country's border i'm going

00:20:15.980 to choose america it's a pretty simple calculation in my book yeah and i just think a lot of people at

00:20:21.300 home feel like we don't really care about them as we should as their representatives if we if we vote

00:20:28.460 for this stuff does that thinking also apply to how you see this taiwan vote i mean we're all anti-china

00:20:34.580 we want to make sure we deter china um this this uh taiwan package i'm still undecided on you know to me 0.72

00:20:41.260 i would have liked to have seen reductions in other areas of the budget i keep coming back to that and that

00:20:45.920 that that shapes my thinking but uh you want to persuade me to vote yes on the taiwan thing or

00:20:50.860 actually as we read the bill and and we'll double check this but there's a provision in there there

00:20:56.080 that allows biden to sweep the money for taiwan into ukraine oh so there's a little bait and switch

00:21:03.300 that's a nice little nugget yeah right so details matter folks details matter yeah that is so what i'm

00:21:09.100 you're breaking news here yeah what do you think uh well i'm where you're at but now that this is just

00:21:14.720 more money for ukraine unless we can get something in an amendment that would actually make it permit

00:21:18.960 which we won't be able to i'm going to lean no man and then it will all go over to the senate and

00:21:24.480 i was really encouraged that we had jd vance and mike lee senator tuberville and so many others trying

00:21:31.640 to stand with house conservatives to focus our priorities on on what you just laid out on the

00:21:37.440 border um talk you know we are at times outcasts in the house and at times outcasts in our own party

00:21:44.800 because because we aren't bought and paid for with the lobbyists and special interests that seem to

00:21:50.520 pull the strings of a lot of our colleagues we actually represent our districts and our constituents

00:21:54.440 and to me it is so refreshing to have a little group of senators who i think are motivated the same

00:22:00.800 way talk a little bit about that bicameral partnership if you don't mind well you know i do believe this is

00:22:05.660 fairly unprecedented for that many senators to weigh in with house freedom caucus feel free to correct

00:22:11.240 me if i'm wrong but you know i go back to our founding fathers you know they they were uh there

00:22:15.740 was a small group of individuals that believed in a dream of a republic a free country and we have to

00:22:21.560 hold on to that and we have to respect their vision and we're protected by the constitution the

00:22:25.600 united states but every single day this town tries to chip away at that so when you go back to faiza

00:22:30.840 and where where we know there's been over three million queries so the faiza bill that essentially

00:22:36.100 that's a foreign intelligence surveillance act that is designed to spy on people like the 9-11

00:22:41.400 terrorists right but they're spying on americans we know this that's not campaign speak that's truth

00:22:46.800 and yet they pass it and they ignore the fourth amendment and so i'm encouraged that they're willing

00:22:52.280 to stand with us to be so bold and my hope is that when we win the senate and we win the the white

00:22:57.160 house and we have the house of representatives we can get transformative change uh done in this town

00:23:01.500 and we will be the tips of the spirit getting it done i want to shift gears and talk now about what

00:23:06.720 all these reporters have been bugging me about this motion to vacate okay and here's my perspective on

00:23:11.500 first of all joel are you are you watching the live stream right now okay yeah so so our live stream

00:23:17.400 is basically a motion to vacate like piranha pool uh most of the time and uh you know i wonder why

00:23:26.100 yeah they are they're pretty active about that so so what's the feedback folks want to know about the

00:23:30.620 vacate johnson movement

00:23:31.680 so the answer so the the sentiment on the live stream is why aren't we firing mike johnson

00:23:41.440 stop being weak that's on the rumble chat or where do we get that from all platforms all fired up okay

00:23:47.680 so here's my perspective on the motion to vacate when i filed the motion to vacate i thought war

00:23:54.200 gamed strategized about how a four-seat republican majority would then re-elect a another speaker

00:24:00.320 because it's not enough to have the votes to remove somebody you have to actually replace them

00:24:04.460 with somebody else and i really really took great care to promise this audience and the entire

00:24:12.380 country that under no circumstance would there be a democrat speaker of the house i knew there might

00:24:18.220 have been a few that may be a little iffy would they vote for maybe a josh gottheimer style democrat

00:24:24.180 or a trone style democrat but indeed i i did not believe that the prisoner's dilemma of a four-seat

00:24:31.900 majority would allow five or six to be able to break off together that that wouldn't be available

00:24:37.840 but here is what i regret to inform you i do believe in a one-seat majority there could be one

00:24:44.520 or two or three of my colleagues who would take a bribe in one form or another in order to deprive

00:24:51.280 the republicans of a majority at all and let me tell you what a democrat speaker looks like

00:24:58.240 their lead-off hitter will be declaring donald trump an insurrectionist and setting up a barrier

00:25:03.860 to him being able to become the president united states if he is lawfully and legally elected as i

00:25:08.600 expect he will be that'll be their lead-off hitter and then the chaser to that shot will be a massive

00:25:15.420 spending package that looks a lot more like the american rescue plan they will blow past every concept

00:25:22.240 of every cap ever imagined you'll you'll be looking at universal basic income you could be looking at

00:25:27.960 packing the supreme court and so the risk that one or two of my corrupt republican colleagues might take

00:25:35.800 a bribe take a walk feign an ailment and flip this thing to the democrats is is a risk that is too high

00:25:45.520 for me at this time but anna i want to hand it to you yeah i'm just going to tell you directly on

00:25:50.320 what we're hearing right now so i'm just going to tell them yeah um so i heard that when if and when

00:25:57.920 the motion to vacate is introduced that there will be immediate resignations of a couple of more moderate

00:26:05.460 members of congress and in the event that that happens that ultimately means it does go to a democrat

00:26:12.720 speaker and so we're in a predicament um i do not like or support what mike johnson has doing and i

00:26:20.460 think that he has absolutely gone back on what he promised us but at this time that is no kidding

00:26:26.600 a possibility and as a result of that i'm hoping that that does not move forward any of your thoughts

00:26:32.580 yeah i would agree with both of you i think the timing of of a motion to vacate is ill-timed i think

00:26:39.000 it does result in uh us being in a worse place both from both from an election standpoint and the

00:26:44.980 potential of losing the house and so um i among others we're trying to tamp down the talk of a

00:26:50.740 motion to vacate let's stay focused on the job at hand and look uh we lost the fight today but there

00:26:56.060 are other fights ahead you never give up again to go back to the founding fathers that there were nights

00:27:00.900 where the night was dark and hope was lost but they continue to fight they continue to pray and they

00:27:06.420 continue to do the right thing and that's what we'll continue to do you know and i noticed that

00:27:11.460 a lot of the members uh who have found themselves recently in competitive republican primaries voted

00:27:17.240 no on the rule people who've never voted no on the rule before were voting no on the rule and in in

00:27:23.340 that spirit and he's talking about you know of uh uh of seeing the fight ahead i i don't believe

00:27:30.220 this team can save the country i believe fundamentally there has to be a different republican team

00:27:36.100 that is uh focused on the border on the single subject bills um on the process reforms that we've

00:27:44.080 been fighting for since the two of you got to congress and this team doesn't want that what this

00:27:48.820 team wants is the the massive bills the 3 000 page bills you know jammed together where no one's

00:27:54.880 really responsible they want the 100 billion dollar foreign aid without the type of really itemized

00:28:00.800 review that you and andy have been talking about and so uh you know do you do you share that sentiment

00:28:05.800 that the that the fight's over the horizon yeah and i think that we actually have this is growing

00:28:09.980 pains i think we have an opportunity you're seeing a an identity crisis within the gop right now

00:28:14.420 currently and i think that a lot of people that are resigning are those more moderate members

00:28:18.440 remember i just want to remind people too we had timed resignations that would bring this majority

00:28:23.880 to a one or two seat majority it was intentionally done okay so with the opportunity that we have had

00:28:29.720 to get better people into office don't just you know get frustrated and shut down get involved and send

00:28:36.840 us better people because as you're seeing time and time again the votes are showing that there's a small

00:28:42.280 group that will fight for your constitutional rights but then there's a uniparty that exists and i will say

00:28:48.200 that there are some democrats too that will vote with us on the issues of the fourth amendment but

00:28:52.540 they even have their own uniparty that's working against them so please send us different people

00:28:57.080 please well and and and earlier like when there was this big cnn piece about how a lot of republicans

00:29:03.040 were choosing to not run free election and they blamed me for making the place so miserable for

00:29:07.060 making people actually take votes and do a lot of the open amendment work that that we have been

00:29:12.320 fighting for and let me just walk you through the economics of how this could work in a vacate

00:29:18.980 situation to flip control of the democrats let's assume you're a republican and you've already

00:29:23.680 announced that you're not seeking re-election you make 175 you know 5 000 bucks a year

00:29:29.660 and and then and then uh you say okay well i'm going to be going off to this consulting firm or

00:29:37.700 this media job and let's say that opportunity is around 400 000 bucks a year so i'm set to go to

00:29:43.240 that it's going to be great finish out my term do that all's well and good and all of a sudden that

00:29:48.520 employer calls you up and says well turns out we need you right now and instead of that 400 000

00:29:55.660 contract that you were going to get because we've got so much work for you to do now and because

00:30:00.840 it's so important right now we'll pay you two million to leave so now you're looking at a 1.6

00:30:06.520 million dollar windfall and people are saying huh is it worth 1.6 million dollars just for me to stick

00:30:12.500 around in my 175 000 a year job for a few extra months or do i take the payoff when i've been making

00:30:19.460 175 000 bucks a year and go do that i i find this deeply disgusting and unsettling but you deserve to

00:30:28.460 know how a vacate scenario with one or two or three people i'm not you don't have to win with a majority

00:30:36.700 of people doing that you're you're risking potentially having a hakim jeffrey speaker of the house that

00:30:43.340 there might be some temptation among some to do that who have no plans to come back who don't want a

00:30:48.380 political future who basically just want their golden parachute so keep that in mind joel are

00:30:52.660 they buying it or they they think they think we're squishes they're not exactly buying it none of you

00:30:58.440 are buying it you want you want the vacate that's that's that's the truth though unfortunately we do

00:31:03.440 not have cope and see the audience cope and see it's the truth and uh we owe you uh that and nothing

00:31:11.140 else so uh on a polina luna how do people follow you you have built such an incredible platform

00:31:16.120 uh my wife ginger follows all your accounts and you break down what we're doing in congress so well

00:31:22.040 on instagram and everywhere else so how can people stay on my official accounts it's rep luna and then

00:31:26.440 on my personal where i can give a little bit more uh commentary and filtered is at real on a polina

00:31:31.780 and andy you have uh launched a new show that is terrific uh what's the show how can folks get to

00:31:38.640 it and subscribe well it's a restoring the republic uh it's on the official side so you can go to rep

00:31:43.000 ogles uh or or on the unofficial side at andy ogles but uh you know i like you i tend not to

00:31:49.800 have a filter it does get me in trouble sometimes but at least you know where i stand on the issues

00:31:55.380 and i think people appreciate that and so you know yesterday on the show we we played that montage of

00:32:00.400 speaker johnson again who's a friend of mine but people deserve to hear from his own mouth his words

00:32:05.420 what he said he was going to do meanwhile the actions speak louder than words because today and

00:32:11.480 tomorrow will reflect his true true action make sure to follow representative luna and representative

00:32:18.020 ogles two great firebrands andy show really is great i have become a viewer and we're going to be

00:32:23.500 carrying that show on the gates network which is our 24 7 live stream you can catch up with the key

00:32:30.140 action from house committees key debates on the floor and some of our favorite episodes of firebrand

00:32:35.500 thank you all so much for joining us hope and seethe roll the credits

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The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - April 19, 2024

Episode 165 LIVE： America Last Foreign Aid (feat. Reps. Andy Ogles & Anna Paulina Luna) - Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

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