The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - Episode 17 - Tiger King Lessons. Hot Mic Scandal. Rosenstein Exposed.

00:00:00.000 you ever watch this guy on television you all were not telling the truth and you should not

00:00:06.100 be trusted congressman matt gates thank you for what you did for your country today be offended

00:00:09.760 with the democratic whip not house republicans like a machine matt gates

00:00:13.940 welcome to hot takes this is congressman matt gates let's talk about the news mr rosenstein

00:00:21.200 thank you very much for coming to the committee rod rosenstein testifies before the senate

00:00:25.760 judiciary committee today and he is exposed as a total joke as someone who was asleep at the wheel

00:00:34.480 at best during the coup attempt of the trump presidency and at worst someone who was complicit

00:00:40.860 with and part of a corrupt coup to unseat the duly elected president of the united states and the

00:00:47.860 testimony today really showcases the role of these secret fisa courts and how willing members of our

00:00:55.440 own government were to use these courts for their political purposes not for any legitimate

00:01:01.720 investigative purpose so rosenstein is a key figure in all of this because he you know writes the scope

00:01:08.780 memo for muller he really unleashes muller despite the lack of a predicate but also because rod rosenstein

00:01:16.620 himself signed renewals of the fisa applications of the spying requests before the secret court he signed

00:01:26.100 those regarding carter page regarding someone that they believe to be potentially around elements of

00:01:33.040 the trump campaign and he did so without a legitimate basis and i think he knew there was no legitimate

00:01:39.400 basis and so i had what i thought was a very simple question for rod rosenstein in 2018 and you can just

00:01:46.860 listen to this clip and see what a weasel the guy is you know when when you're asked an honest question

00:01:52.560 you should just give an honest answer right and so i'm asking rosenstein with his signatures on these

00:01:58.360 documents where now we know that even the fbi knew that the document is based on this dossier the

00:02:05.360 sub sources of the dossier are targeted by russian intelligence to undermine and interfere with our

00:02:11.860 election of president trump and so rosenstein has all that and he signs it and i just want to know

00:02:17.860 did you read it did you read the document that bears your signature i mean hell the reason we require

00:02:24.880 these people to sign these documents is to attest as to their validity their legitimacy that it's not

00:02:31.660 just someone like clinesmith the lawyer that was doctoring emails and changing evidence that it's

00:02:37.600 actually someone with some substantial role in our government like rod rosenstein who would sign and

00:02:44.360 approve this type of a spying endeavor and like look this isn't just like going and spying on some

00:02:50.220 you know drug cartel or some you know street level gang i mean this is spying that is related to

00:02:57.500 the election and service of the president of the united states so if you're going to read any of

00:03:02.760 these like you would think that you would read this one and i just want to know rosenstein when people

00:03:07.940 were trying to spy on the president did you read the freaking document did you read the fisa application

00:03:13.480 before you signed it i'm not going to comment about any fisa application so you won't say to this 0.73

00:03:17.420 committee whether or not you even read the document you signed that authorized spying on people

00:03:22.900 associated with the trump campaign well i i dispute your characterization of what that fisa is about

00:03:28.660 sir did you read it or did you not i'll be happy you signed it well i'll explain the process to you

00:03:33.940 did you thoroughly review it yes or no explain the process to you and so now fast forward to 2020

00:03:38.580 today rod rosenstein testifying before senator lindsey graham's judiciary committee and this is what

00:03:45.060 rosenstein has to say if you knew then what you know now would you have signed the warrant application

00:03:49.040 no i would not and the reason you wouldn't have is because mr hoarts found that its sculptory

00:03:55.800 information was withheld from the court is that correct among other reasons and somebody actually

00:04:01.280 altered an email now i'm sure that in the legal circles of the beltway of washington dc rod rosenstein

00:04:08.440 would be heralded as some great guy but i gotta tell you one way to avoid regretting the things you do

00:04:17.340 is to try to ask the right questions do the homework be diligent be hard working and rod rosenstein

00:04:25.360 was derelict in his duty as the deputy attorney general of the united states when he did not read

00:04:32.240 these fisa applications and ask tough questions about them he was acting functionally against our

00:04:38.840 government when he was joking about you know wearing a wire on the president and potentially invoking the

00:04:45.300 25th amendment against the president rod rosenstein was a bad deputy attorney general he didn't do his

00:04:51.880 job and the things he did do undermined the department of justice they undermined the delivery

00:04:58.040 of justice in this country and good thing there were a few of us out there exposing this russia hoax 0.85

00:05:04.020 fighting against it folks like devin nunez and mark meadows and ron desantis and jim jordan and i

00:05:09.940 you know it was a small group at the very beginning but now we know the truth we know the truth is that

00:05:15.520 this was a corrupt investigation that it was based on politics not a real counterintelligence threat

00:05:21.240 that michael flynn never was out there engaging in any like disruptive or undermining behavior with

00:05:27.900 the russians he was just trying to keep everything copacetic at the end of the obama russia foreign

00:05:34.360 policy failures so that the trump administration would have an ability to to restore some world

00:05:40.280 order and de-conflict with russia where we could and perhaps in places like syria or on the turkish

00:05:46.900 border and oh by the way our relationship with russia is better under the trump administration and while

00:05:53.040 that doesn't mean that russia isn't a malign actor while it doesn't mean that we're ready to share values 0.75

00:05:59.060 with them and embrace them as a friend and ally it sure is helpful that you know the russians

00:06:04.800 de-conflicted with us and de-conflicted with the turks and the kurds and the syrians so as to not see 1.00

00:06:11.520 even more bloodshed so again i'm not here to wave the pom-poms for the russians but certainly

00:06:17.160 the thinking of you know neocon cold war obama administration officials was proven false and the

00:06:25.680 work of rod rosenstein was proven either ineffective or corrupt or lazy or derelict and in any of those

00:06:35.200 circumstances it is truly a shame that rod rosenstein ever served as the deputy attorney general

00:06:40.220 and i sure as hell hope that going forward in his legal career he'll at least read the documents he

00:06:45.840 signs we've got a hot mic alert on hot takes today a key member of the democratic leadership having a

00:06:54.960 hot mic moment that has him in hot water you know i've never had a hot mic moment myself which is

00:07:02.360 a bit surprising i usually i'm pretty free to say what i think in almost any circumstance but

00:07:07.520 but maybe it wouldn't be so bad for me you know maybe if you've got some of these like

00:07:10.980 stuffier congressmen and they have a hot hot mic moment and people think you realize what they're

00:07:16.420 actually thinking uh that uh that would be damning to their political career but i figure i say what i

00:07:22.400 think so often and this podcast is one great way to do so so maybe i'm a little more resilient to any

00:07:28.040 hot mic scandals but not so with elliot ingle elliot ingle the democratic chairman of the foreign affairs

00:07:35.300 committee one of nancy pelosi's top lieutenants 73 years old uh a real one of the neocons one i'll just

00:07:44.320 say it one of the democrat neocons i mean whenever i'm working with some of the more populist progressive

00:07:50.180 democrats on these issues of war and peace as i try to execute a trump doctrine where america is not

00:07:57.860 overextended but what where we make strategic choices where america is not passing you know the

00:08:04.260 same sand dunes back and forth in the middle east for 19 years i think there's a new bipartisan consensus

00:08:10.260 to try to invest in america first to have americans focused on protecting our country first

00:08:17.000 and uh elliot ingle has largely been on the other side of those fights uh uh with members of his own

00:08:24.120 party with members of the trump doctrine coalition of the republican party who want to see more foreign

00:08:30.300 policy restraint i recall when i was working on the issue of iran war powers as i was working

00:08:36.840 constructively with democrats like ro Khanna uh elliot ingle was uh ultimately on our side ultimately gave us

00:08:43.460 the thumbs up but he was one of the last democrats to approve a doctrine a mindset of foreign policy

00:08:50.740 restraint i think he would like to see us engaged in you know every corner of the world at just about

00:08:56.500 every opportunity so elliot ingle is this you know 73 year old democrat from new york and his big problem

00:09:03.620 is that our uh our colleague alexandria ocasio cortez aoc has recruited funded backed supported and

00:09:14.100 highlighted a primary challenge to elliot ingle so he's not having to just fend off republicans in new

00:09:20.580 york he's actually having to fend off democrats and the dynamic is obvious right i mean if you are an old

00:09:28.340 white dude in a democratic primary in the state of new york it is not a safe place to be you know

00:09:34.900 i mean just go ask former uh big wig in the democratic party joe crowley who got got beat by aoc and so

00:09:42.500 elliot ingle has got this this real tough primary challenge on his hand i i don't know that a lot of

00:09:47.620 people are favoring him to win it and he's at one of these protests one of these rallies uh that are

00:09:55.940 exploding across the country and he's caught on mike asking to speak getting told he can't speak

00:10:03.780 and then saying that if he weren't in an election if he didn't have a primary he wouldn't care

00:10:09.060 i mean talk about tone deaf i mean first of all just the indignity of being a guy who has like served

00:10:27.940 decades in the congress like you're one of nancy pelosi's key people you chair foreign affairs and

00:10:33.220 then here you are like back in your own state and you've got to beg like a dog just for the chance to

00:10:38.820 get the bullhorn or get the microphone and have your like woke moment of virtue signaling i mean it's 0.90

00:10:44.180 it's pathetic i mean in in my state in my community in my district uh if people were gathering in uh in

00:10:51.380 some political uh discourse like i would get the chance to speak they they would not they i would not 0.81

00:10:57.140 have to sit there like pretty please my way into uh the the microphone but engel then i mean when

00:11:03.700 he says like i wouldn't care otherwise it's a candid moment and it's why these hot mic moments actually

00:11:09.620 come to to play a very large part of our politics because a lot of the american people think that

00:11:15.380 their politicians say one thing when they're scripted and then they actually believe something

00:11:19.940 else i mean that's why what senator richard burr did with while he was selling off his stocks you

00:11:25.300 know in one case and then he and saying to his friends and his buddies and his donors hey this

00:11:30.100 is going to be really bad you want to get out of a lot of your positions uh before coronavirus and then

00:11:35.620 going and saying something entirely different to fox news in an editorial and so here you've got elliot

00:11:40.820 engel you know who wants to get up there and and rant and rave about how woke he is and how

00:11:45.860 you know he is in such solidarity with people in this political movement right now and then at the same

00:11:51.620 time he said look you know if i wanted some tough primary i wouldn't care and that is probably the

00:11:57.540 truth i mean if elliot engel was not in a primary do you think in the middle of covid some like

00:12:01.940 old comorbid 73 year old would be out there you know without his mask on trying to stuff his face

00:12:07.380 into a microphone that had been held by you know 25 people i doubt it but it is telling that elliot

00:12:14.820 engel is fighting for his political life because he is a moderate neocon democrat in a democratic party

00:12:24.340 that really has no more tolerance for moderates i mean elliot's not a socialist and the venezuela

00:12:31.060 wing of the democratic party led by aoc are coming for him and based on this hot mic moment they just

00:12:38.100 might get him tiger king essentially held this country together for three weeks during the front

00:12:46.980 end of covid i am not cutting my hair i'm not changing the way i dress i refuse to wear a suit

00:12:52.820 i am gay i've had two boyfriends most of my life i have tried drugs through the younger years of my life

00:13:00.660 i am broke as i have a judgment against me from some down there in florida i built one of the biggest

00:13:07.140 facilities and the nicest facilities for exotic animals in this country as far as a private

00:13:12.740 individual goes and carol baskin today is back in the news uh she she purports to be an animal rights 1.00

00:13:21.220 advocate and today i guess she has gotten a judge to hand over the 16 acre garvin county oklahoma

00:13:30.340 zoo i guess you could call it i probably wouldn't call it a preserve the zoo that was

00:13:34.420 owned and maintained by joe exotic that i guess he had transferred over to jeff lowe a court rules

00:13:41.620 that's a fraudulent transfer carol baskin gonna take over joe exotic's zoo and uh jeff lowe has i guess

00:13:50.180 uh 30 days to get those animals moved over where he's gonna have his new partner and his new endeavor so

00:13:57.460 i mean the tiger king documentary series really beyond entertaining us wildly raises some important

00:14:07.700 policy questions about these tigers about their natural environment about genetic diversification

00:14:14.660 and so i i want to zoom out from the great joy that was watching the tiger king documentary to maybe

00:14:20.500 what it tells us about our policies and how they inform on the health and safety of the tiger so i view

00:14:27.300 the like tiger mistreatment issue largely as a math problem to have to deal with so i mean you get

00:14:34.980 the fact that the money in the tiger game is in the cubs right i mean like a massive freaking you know 600

00:14:43.700 pound adult tiger is you know event i think there was a line in the documentary that like it eventually is

00:14:49.620 just a bill right it's this massive beast that you've got to continue to feed and that the experience that

00:14:55.700 you can really charge the most for and that is the most economically profitable is having these

00:15:00.500 cute little tiger cubs that people can play with pet take pictures with whatever and so you always

00:15:08.180 have to have a supply of these baby tiger cubs if you want this business because if like a family goes

00:15:14.260 to these one of these zoos and you know they had gone before and there were the cubs and this time they

00:15:18.420 weren't then you're changing the user experience and obviously in any of these attractions you want to

00:15:22.260 create consistency in the user experience so they've constantly got to be breeding these tigers

00:15:27.220 they've constantly got to have these tiger cubs but then as those tiger cubs come into adolescence

00:15:33.140 as they start to get a little bit larger and they're out of that cute cubby phase well then

00:15:38.820 you know you you have a bill you have a challenge to deal with and that's where you've heard these

00:15:44.660 stories where some of these just fascinating and colorful characters are actually doing horrific

00:15:50.100 and awful things whether it's freezing the tiger cubs as they enter adolescence or gassing them or

00:15:55.860 whatever they're simply disposing of them in you know in horrifyingly awful circumstances and so at the same

00:16:05.300 time this is going on these tiger species are facing major challenges around the world in terms of just

00:16:12.660 their population size and their genetic diversity i mean there there are more of these tigers in

00:16:18.260 captivity in the united states in some circumstances than there are in the wild in asia and so it sort

00:16:24.020 of got me thinking well if you need tigers for reintroduction into the wild and if you have tigers here

00:16:31.700 that are not all that beneficial is there is there any type of process is there any type of system

00:16:37.300 whereby you can rewild or reintroduce some of these cubs as they're entering adolescence into more of a

00:16:46.180 more of a dynamic situation uh in a training program or some other rewilding program and what's

00:16:53.620 fascinating is that national geographic has actually done coverage on this phenomenon with the south china

00:16:59.940 tiger and they have set up these preserves in africa of all places so they've taken chinese 1.00

00:17:07.220 tigers they bring them to africa and they attempt to rewild them to teach them how to hunt and

00:17:13.300 teach them how to live and and be successful and and ultimately reintroduced into some wild terrain

00:17:21.060 and they have had mixed success like it doesn't work every time some of these tigers that have been

00:17:25.860 uh born in captivity can never be rewilded but like let's assume that you know 15 can 20 can

00:17:33.940 that would lead to a huge volume of tigers that could potentially assist in the restoration of the

00:17:42.340 species and so discovery channel does an interesting piece on this and they follow the stories of ron and

00:17:49.220 julie two tigers that they take out to africa and i mean kind of like the way it works is you know first

00:17:54.500 you take the tiger out to africa and throw it a dead chicken and then you take it out there and throw it

00:17:59.300 like a wounded chicken and the next thing you know it's chasing down a live chicken and then it's

00:18:03.540 chasing down a live goat and then you know next thing you know you start to see if the tigers can

00:18:08.580 take to prey the size of the prey in the areas where they might be reintroduced for um for an

00:18:15.540 opportunity to grow the wild tiger species so here's a little clip from the story of ron and julie two of

00:18:21.860 the tigers that they are attempting to rewild in africa after two days with empty stomachs

00:18:28.340 ron and julie are getting the message to eat they have to learn to kill dave will hold the tigers back

00:18:34.420 to teach them patience it's a dangerous job but somebody's got to do it i'm about 190 pounds and

00:18:41.460 i'm trying to slow down about 700 pounds of starving tigers normally this is a job for a mother tiger in

00:18:47.140 the wild but ron and julie are beginning to understand that using cover is a better strategy

00:18:52.100 than just running wildly after prey the reason that american tigers today cannot participate in

00:18:58.500 any of these rewilding programs is ironically the endangered species act i think with all the best of

00:19:04.260 intentions the endangered species act doesn't contemplate uh the the trafficking of these adolescent

00:19:12.420 tiger cubs for their benefit i think largely there are these you know anti-trafficking provisions in

00:19:18.340 the endangered species act because you don't want to see the species exploited but but we largely have

00:19:24.820 learned from tiger king that the enforcement of those prohibitions on sale and trafficking are

00:19:31.540 very difficult to enforce they're sort of a joke and it's it's just a a secret that is known by

00:19:38.420 everyone that the trafficking occurs anyway so if it's occurring anyway maybe we could actually go

00:19:43.300 in and write into the endangered species act a waiver that would allow part of the american tiger

00:19:50.100 population to actually be transferred to africa and participate in some of these rewilding programs

00:19:56.980 who knows may not work for all of them may not work for many of them but if the option is seeing tiger

00:20:03.140 cubs gassed or killed in the united states or if you give them some chance to potentially assist the

00:20:09.540 species maybe that can be the great good that comes from this tiger king experience but in the meantime

00:20:16.420 carol baskin taking over joe exotic's zoo hopefully for the better but i think we can make some changes

00:20:22.740 changes to policy that would be the greatest legacy of the tiger king experience that america has had

00:20:31.780 the riots that continue in america continue to spread pain and anguish and division within our

00:20:38.740 communities though i am so grateful recently that president trump has taken such a strong posture for

00:20:45.700 law and order and for civilized society to ultimately prevail over those who would destroy our things who

00:20:53.620 would hurt our neighbors and would try to uh flow fear onto the streets of the neighborhoods where we live

00:21:02.180 i think these riots have largely shown who is strong and who is weak president trump has been strong

00:21:10.580 when he walked over to the church that had been burned when he embraced the bible i know that the

00:21:18.500 woke media and that the celebrities and some folks on the left didn't like that but it was an inspiring

00:21:24.100 strong moment for our country when store owners take their livelihoods and their futures into their own

00:21:31.460 hands and fend off protesters i saw you know so many cases of store owners showing courage and strength

00:21:38.500 i think the protesters who remain peaceful show a tremendous amount of strength it's it's easy in

00:21:43.940 these environments where people kind of get whooped up around each other to uh to escalate or spill over

00:21:50.260 into violent acts and for those who have a a true political point to make for those who are seeking

00:21:56.500 redress of their grievance and peaceful assembly i thank them for their strength and also to the police who are

00:22:03.460 enforcing order who are that thin blue line between those of us who want safe families and safe

00:22:10.740 communities and those who would disrupt that safety we thank you and we see the strength in

00:22:15.300 your eyes and in your hearts and in your family members who are unquestionably part of the sacrifice

00:22:21.220 that appends to your public service but we've also seen you know weakness the governors and mayors who

00:22:27.780 who've given up their streets who've simply surrendered to the mob they don't look that good those who

00:22:33.700 would burn and destroy you're not strong when you burn down or deface a monument or a national symbol

00:22:41.220 of pride you're showing how weak you are how you're you're unable to restrain and control yourself and 0.72

00:22:47.060 manage your emotions and actually direct your frustration which i think many would say is is

00:22:53.140 reasonable in this circumstance to a more productive path forward and i would also say

00:22:59.860 that corporate america has demonstrated a tremendous amount of weakness look if you're

00:23:06.340 like some fortune 100 fortune 500 company these riots aren't catastrophic for you right you've got

00:23:13.380 a team of lawyers and accountants who will calculate the losses who will get your business interruption

00:23:18.900 insurance who will get your property and casualty damage money back and at the end of the day these

00:23:24.020 large businesses have the ability to accrue long-term debt if they have to to bridge gaps and they're not

00:23:30.500 going you're not going to see a major fortune 100 or fortune 500 company that shuts down as a consequence

00:23:35.860 of these riots so they can afford to donate money to the organizers and entities that you know that are

00:23:43.780 out there animating this type of of chaos on our streets and it's the small businesses it's the

00:23:52.020 folks who operate that one bodega that family furniture store that electronics repair store you know they

00:23:59.060 don't have the team of of lawyers and accountants when they have to go fight with their insurance company

00:24:03.940 to get paid for damage they're going to be out cash they're going to potentially have to lay off employees

00:24:09.860 limit advertising limit the investment in their future that makes america great that makes small

00:24:15.780 business the driving force of success in the american economy more people work at small businesses in

00:24:21.780 america than work at big businesses and it's small businesses who bear the brunt of the weakness that we

00:24:28.980 have seen from the governors and mayors who have handed off their streets and their towns to those who would

00:24:36.020 not maintain order and who seek to just brandish the the disruption of that order as some sort of

00:24:43.700 success it's not a success at all it's un-american but thankfully we've got president trump we've got

00:24:50.580 folks like governor ron desantis and many others who've made it very clear that in this great country

00:24:56.820 we are going to be on the side of people who want to prosper who want to succeed we're going to be on the

00:25:02.660 side of the peaceful protester of the store owner and of the family who deserves to have this country

00:25:09.380 restored to its highest levels of greatness thanks so much for listening to hot takes with matt gates

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The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - June 03, 2020

Episode 17 - Tiger King Lessons. Hot Mic Scandal. Rosenstein Exposed.

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