Episode 2 - Jeff Sessions Reflections, COVID Senate Hearing, Richard Grenell Cleaning House
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The coronavirus task force members are testifying before a Senate Health Committee and Dr. Redford Redford is giving key public health information regarding the importance of our public health infrastructure. Also, Dr. Rick Grinnell is making information available that I have been calling on for a year.
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you ever watch this guy on television you all were not telling the truth and you should not
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be trusted congressman matt gates thank you for what you did for your country today be offended
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with the democratic whip not house republicans like a machine matt gates welcome to hot takes
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i'm congressman matt gates let's talk about the news coronavirus task force members are testifying
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before a senate health committee today i'll break down the information you want to know regarding
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testing and the key work we've got to do as a country to rebuild our public health infrastructure
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also last night trey gowdy confronted with some of the concerns that i had that i reflected on in the
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last podcast about his support of the fbi back in 2018 we'll talk about his admission that he made
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a mistake during that time what are the consequences and downstream impacts of that mistake in our
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efforts to hold folks accountable rick grinnell making information available that i have been
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calling on for a year the russia hoax transcripts this information is going to be key to telling us
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who was involved in unmasking who knew what when and i think we'll find out the key members of the
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obama administration who were working to destabilize the trump presidency both before and after his
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election but first i want to thank the thousands of you who downloaded our podcast yesterday i'm sort
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of new to the podcast game i want to thank my good friend charlie kirk over at turning point usa for
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encouraging me to launch a podcast i'll be on charlie's show the charlie kirk show available for
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download later today i'm sure that'll be a blast i also want to thank those of you who left your
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thoughts reviews and comments over the national pulse raheem kassam who also is one of the hosts
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of the war room pandemic podcast called hot takes interesting so we'll take that thanks raheem
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not everyone loved it i'll say that uh this uh apparently i'm not for everyone and this show
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may not be for everyone uh let's see probably the meanest review we got was uh the individual who
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posted on twitter that they would rather eat a covid sunday covered in aids sprinkles uh then listen to
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my podcast first a covid sunday covered in aids sprinkles would be very high carb right now and
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since you know the gyms aren't open folks aren't getting out and you know playing basketball playing
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playing sports as much uh in a team environment i would not suggest uh a sunday at this point in time
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also we're seeing more and more evidence from our public health officials that obesity is a top
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comorbidity indicating someone is likely to have severe consequences of the coronavirus so
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if you were going to have a covid anything you would not want a covid sunday maybe maybe like some
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covid kale but on a more serious note today the covid task force uh was giving testimony before the
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senate health committee and dr redfried uh was there giving key public health information regarding
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the importance of our health care infrastructure let's listen in uh to what the good doctor had
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to say we need to rebuild our nation's public health infrastructure data and data analytics public
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health laboratory resilience and our nation's public health workforce now is the time to put it in place
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for the generations to come not only for the public health system that our nation needs but for the
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public health system our nation deserves that analysis is i think central to not only our public
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health mission but really our overall strategic mission when it comes to a medical equipment uh
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ensuring that we are ready for the next virus uh from a mobilization standpoint that is akin to a
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military mobilization we saw the need for that now and so i think that that is a great direction
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to the congress going forward also we heard from dr gregoire regarding the advancements in testing
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the millions of tests that have been done in our country the fact that we lead the world
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and the number of tests done let's listen into that important testing information on march 12th
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secretary azar requested that i lead the covet 19 testing efforts within hhs since then the nation
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has performed more than nine million covet 19 tests a number far greater than any other country
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and double the per capita test performed to date in south korea we also heard from dr fauci
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let's listen to this exchange he had with the with the senate you might recall in this committee
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that in january of this year i said that it would take about one year to 18 months if we were successful
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in developing a vaccine the nih trial moved very quickly on january 10th the sequence was known
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on january the 11th the vaccine research center met to develop a plan on the 14th of january we
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rick grinnell the current acting director of national intelligence is making big news grinnell has gone
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into this role with really a dust buster mentality to find the information that needs to be before the
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american people and to get it out to not sit on it anymore i would suggest that acting director grinnell
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has done more to expose the truth than any member of the trump administration has ever done
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and now he's naming names that's right we will soon be learning the information regarding who in the
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obama administration participated in the unmasking of general flynn and i think other corrupt motivators
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for the trump russia investigation that we all now know to be an absolute hoax so congratulations to
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director grinnell but i think it's really important to understand what has brought us up to this moment
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where we've got this flood of disclosures that will soon be coming out and finally revealing the truths
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that jim jordan and mark meadows and devin nunez and myself have been talking about for a number of years
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regarding the unprecedented and unscrupulous efforts to undermine president trump and to try to steal this
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election away from the voters so grinnell obviously is in this position because it had become vacant
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the original director of national intelligence for the trump administration was dan coates dan coates
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was easy to confirm and he's also easy to forget because he didn't release any of this information
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that we're now finally getting that that is just so key to understanding the corruptness of the russia investigation
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i mean you just think what we've learned since we've been in quarantine you know i mean before we went into
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covid quarantine we didn't know that the sub sources of the steel dossier were actually the targets of russian
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intelligence we've now just since learned that i mean we didn't know when we started quarantine
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that even as the fbi was going to investigate flynn they were speculating as to whether or not the
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whole deal was a setup and when we went into quarantine we didn't know that back in 2017 the
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intelligence committee of the house was taking testimony where people like mccabe and brennan were
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admitting that there was no evidence to suggest that president trump was colluding with russia or acting
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at the behest of russia or serving as a russian agent we've just learned all that now like during this bizarre
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period in human history where we've all been in some varying degree of of covid quarantine and you gotta ask
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yourself why the hell didn't we learn this information in real time like why did we allow the american people
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to even doubt whether or not our president was a patriot serving our country or whether he was as adam schiff
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and eric swalwell and you know um chuck schumer were alleging you know possibly an agent of the russian
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government that stuff was ridiculous and we knew it at the time and so dan coates is there serving as the
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director of national intelligence he has precisely the same information that director grinnell has now
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that he's getting out into the public square but coates doesn't release any of it and so here here's a clip
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from me from one year ago almost a year ago to the day from right now we're back in may of 2019 i am
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calling on dan coates to release the information that we are now only receiving we haven't had the
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director of national intelligence dan coates actually lay out for us what was in the transcripts taken by
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the house intelligence committee where they interviewed clapper where they interviewed comey and mccabe
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and brennan and we ought to have that information he's been sitting on it for four months and we need to
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get it out fascinating wait i i didn't know that and i'm over 50 transcripts have been voted out of
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the house intelligence committee to be declassified so that we can get to the bottom of where the lies
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existed and how this terrible investigation why hasn't coates made those public four months we're
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still waiting so as we know coates doesn't respond to my call to release this information imagine how
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much better things would be in terms of our clarity and our understanding of the truth
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had he actually done that at the time but he doesn't and so he ultimately leaves and then
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president trump nominates for the dni position my good friend fellow house judiciary member john
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ratcliffe you guys will remember ratcliffe was spectacular during the impeachment process applying
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his understanding of intelligence with his understanding of the laws a former u.s attorney and then having the
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ability to really question witnesses in a way that framed up these important issues that allowed us
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to expose impeachment expose the russia hoax in real time so trump nominates ratcliffe and it becomes very
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clear upon that initial nomination that john ratcliffe despite his qualifications despite his abilities
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is not going to get the senate support of key republicans uh and and the low-key message back on that
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was that ratcliffe was too aggressive he was too eager he was too frankly he was probably too effective
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at carving up these people like peter struck and rod rosenstein and robert muller and some senators
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didn't like that they didn't think that was sufficiently austere and uh so you know without the strong
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support of a lot of the republicans that we were going to need to get ratcliffe confirmed at that time
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ratcliffe said look let me go back and focus on my work in the house and not be just a punching bag
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over in the senate so he comes back continues to do great work but then with the position still open
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there's the ability to move any other trump administration official who has received confirmation
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in their current job into that position and i'll just tell you like the the guy in the trump
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administration that is the dust buster that will go in and clean house and will not kowtow to the way
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things used to be is ambassador rick grinnell uh who was serving us very valiantly in germany
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representing our country's interests so president trump moves ambassador grinnell into the acting
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dni position position and the left goes crazy they they know what's coming they know what they're going
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to get with grinnell that the truth is going to come out and so the day that this is the big news
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that trump is putting grinnell in this position i go on the view that's right abc's the view and uh
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this is the exchange that i had on the view about ambassador grinnell trump announced he's appointing
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another loyalist of his rick grinnell on rick's qualifications eight years at the un two years uh
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in germany yeah he advised the security council and berlin where he was active is one of the hotbeds of
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intelligence activity nothing happens there without the chief of station most of the ambassador working
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together so rick grinnell is very qualified so you're saying he's qualified okay so i stuck up
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for rick grinnell on the view and i just could not be prouder of the fantastic work that he's doing as
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acting director of dni but he's acting so what does president trump do brilliantly i mean this is like
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art of the deal to the max he then re-nominates ratcliffe for the permanent position so now like the people
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who might not have loved ratcliffe because he's aggressive and effective and is really going to
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expose the truth well now those people have a choice right either they can vote for ratcliffe
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or they can leave grinnell in the current position and he's just going to keep rolling through these
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disclosures and so i have ultimate confidence that we are seeing a massive upgrade at the dni position
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and that we will see that in an enduring way going forward because either the senate's going to confirm
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ratcliffe which they should and he knows where all the bodies are buried and he's going to get all of
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this out of the open or they can leave rick grinnell there and the news of the day is that grinnell is
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has handed over to bill barr the declassifications so that we can finally learn who in the obama
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administration was specifically involved in the unmasking of michael flynn and that's going to tell us
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who was driving the train in the obama administration to construct the entire russia hoax to begin with
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and all of this is happening at the same time that you've got the durham investigation going on
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really tweezing through the corrupt origins of the russia investigation uh the predication for it
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and i am i'm just very confident now that with finally the right people with the right gumption
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in the right place that we're going to get the job done and then it's going to happen
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now that brings us to my my discussion about trey gowdy trey gowdy was the brilliant lawyer who in
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2017 served on the intelligence committee and got all these admissions from the ic about the lack of
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basis for the russia investigation but then in 2018 gowdy goes on television in the month of may
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and says you know the fbi did nothing wrong none of this had anything to do with trump
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and we should all just trust the fbi trust our institutions trust robert muller and everything's
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going to be okay and as soon as gowdy does that then paul ryan goes out and parrots the same thing
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so you can only imagine if you're a jim jordan or a matt gates or a lee zeldin or an andy biggs
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and you're out there every night saying there's something rotten in denmark this deal is corrupt
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and then news anchors are feeding you back the words of trey gowdy and paul ryan and saying well
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gowdy says everything's fine so what you what do you matt gates know that trey gowdy doesn't know
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and it made it very difficult for us and so here's the big news last night trey gowdy goes on
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tucker carlson tonight and tucker really presses him on these issues and let's listen to that exchange
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you were briefed by the fbi in 2018 and shortly after briefing came on this channel to describe
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your reaction to it here's what you said then but as of now i think chris ray and rod rosenstein
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are stunned whenever people think trump is the target of their investigation i'll leave it up to
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them how to brief the president that you're talking about right now was that strengthened
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when you went into this briefing last week yes i am i am even more convinced that the fbi did exactly
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what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got and that it has
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nothing to do with donald trump i remember watching that and thinking boy i hope he's right i do you
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still feel that way oh gosh no no that was i made a lot of mistakes in life relying on briefings and not
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insisting on the documents it took me about three weeks i went over to the department of justice
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i sat there for four hours that's when i saw that peter struck actually initiated and approved
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crossfire hurricane that's when i saw the exculpatory information on george papadopoulos
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that's when i saw for the very first time that it was the trump campaign mentioned in that predicate
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document they've been telling us all along trump's not the target the campaign's not the target so
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yes my mistake was relying on the word of the fbi and the doj and not insisting on the documents
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right luckily it took me about three weeks to correct that mistake it is not often that a member
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of congress or even a former member of congress admits their mistakes but frankly i think it's a sign of
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strength you know when i screw up when i make a mistake i try to say i'm sorry i'll try to do
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better next time i think that every human being has an error rate and it's always good when we can
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acknowledge that because i think it makes it more productive for us to move forward so gowdy last
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night admits that it was a mistake for him to essentially take up for the fbi as those of us who
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were more aggressive who i think perhaps had more foresight into what was really going on
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were trying to get accountability applied and the cost of that mistake is really something that i
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think we've got to understand because we had sent all these document requests to rod rosenstein and
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christopher ray to get the necessary information to expose the liars and crooks and thieves over there
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and they would delay and then they would redact and like finally we were at the point where we had
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i believe the support from the rank and file members of the republican conference to hold these
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people in contempt if necessary and and to potentially even start impeaching officials
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within the administration that weren't complying with our requests to get to the bottom of the
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corrupt russia hoax i mean that that was seriously something under consideration with a lot of the
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conference but then when gowdy and ryan go in a back room and meet with rosenstein and christopher
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ray rosenstein and ray essentially sell him a bill of goods and instead of using the leadership skills
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to ask tough questions to demand direct review of documents to have access to witnesses they just took
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their word for it and i do think that that failure of leadership does not have a temporary impact on our
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ability to hold these people accountable it might in fact be the permanent reason why folks get away
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with stuff that they otherwise wouldn't have gotten away with had we had the ability to actually run
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all these leads to ground so i'm glad trey admitted this was a mistake trey remains a brilliant lawyer i
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still think he's a good guy but this was something that uh that really cost us a lot and uh you know
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those perhaps next time uh if there is a circumstance where you know some of some of the members like
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jim jordan and myself raise these concerns to leadership uh we hope that they won't dismiss us and take the
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word of the people who are acting corruptly against the president uh another time around you know
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that's all we can hope is that we learn from those mistakes but what about paul ryan trey gowdy has
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admitted his mistake but shouldn't paul ryan admit his matter of fact it was paul ryan who just after
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gowdy made the claims that we should all trust the fbi came out and said he agreed with gowdy he agreed
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with those assessments so i'm glad gowdy has admitted his mistake i think that the next time paul ryan has an
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interview a reporter should ask him whether or not he regrets not giving us subpoena power whether he
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regrets just taking the fbi's word for it in light of the fact that he was relying on gowdy and gowdy
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now has in fact recanted those views and reflected on them with some regret
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jeff sessions sends an open letter to the people of alabama today regarding his time as attorney
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general i think that has some very significant historical context and so i want to talk about
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it i want to talk about that letter about my experience with jeff sessions as a member of the
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judiciary committee that oversees the work of the justice department that he led and some of the
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interactions i had with him which were just downright bizarre and and why i think this letter is pretty
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bizarre itself i'll start by saying i think that jeff sessions was a great senator when you look at his
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views on immigration uh being pro law enforcement i think that he made a number of uh good calls there
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and did a good job but i mean as attorney general woof you know i mean he showed political courage coming
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out and supporting the president i think he was one of the first or if not the first u.s senator to
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back trump came out to that big rally in mobile uh and and really a lot of the work that came out of
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sessions office as a senator i think and i suspect can likely be be traced back to the brilliant mind of
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steven miller who of course now is a senior policy advisor to the president i mean steven miller is one of the
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smartest people i have ever interacted with i i'm always like just uh gleeful when i can steal a few
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moments of his time to ask his perspective on issues and uh he worked for sessions and i think
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he makes that made sessions look very very good i don't i don't even know if miller might have had a
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role in sort of talking to sessions about getting with trump because steven has that kind of foresight
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that kind of of intellect and and and i think uh you know the ability to really understand how policy
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and politics interact with one another so i i talked to the president uh once about sessions
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uh while he was i think sessions was attorney general at the time and i mean you know the
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president said that uh when he went to the rally in mobile and sessions shows up that trump didn't even
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know who sessions was i mean he didn't even know like who is this guy apparently he's a senator who
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wants to endorse you and so then when trump wins you know i mean i think that he didn't exactly go
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into the president-elect didn't exactly go into washington with some massive rolodex of every
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person in dc and what they had done and what their capabilities were if anything the president won
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because he was he was not of washington he was not of that world and sessions was a guy that that had
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shown early loyalty had shown some political courage and so the president wanted to include him as
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administration and the president president once shared with me that he said like look i mean we
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offered him anything but attorney general i mean we wanted to give him a number of other jobs in the
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administration and just over and over again sessions just wanted to be attorney general that was it
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that was that was his sole focus and ultimately they decided to give him a chance and the president
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shared with me that to this day he still believes that that was the worst personnel move that he ever
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made was uh offering the attorney general position to jeff sessions that that that was just a um
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totally uh unnecessary dearth of leadership uh that we allowed to serve in a role that was so
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critically important as people were trying to to really convert our own government into a political
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operation against the person that the voters had selected i mean that that that is what was going on
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and uh sessions did not have have the ability to to handle that let's go back and hear uh some of
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the president's reflections in his own words jeff sessions was a disaster he was so bad in his
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nomination you know proceedings i should have gotten rid of him there he knew less about russia than i did
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he knew nothing about russia jeff was just very weak and very sad and when the name russia was mentioned
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just the word russia he immediately instead of being a man and saying this is a hoax
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he recused himself so it's clear the president doesn't have confidence in jeff sessions as a
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leader and and i'll just share with you the story of why i don't have any confidence in jeff sessions
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it was july of 2017 and after taking just relentless incoming from the democrats regarding oh trump
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russia michael flynn all the stuff we now know to be nonsense after all that was going on uh you had
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a desire from the house republicans to actually start punching back you know to actually use the tools
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the democrats are using against us and actually get out there and and fight this fight rather than just
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taking the incoming which was seemingly the jeff sessions paul ryan view of the world so jim jordan
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and ron de santis and andy biggs and myself and and mike johnson and a number of other members of
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the house judiciary committee sent sessions a letter saying we think that a special counsel should be
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appointed not to investigate the president but to investigate all the corruption that swirls around
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the efforts to delegitimize the president to the benefit of the clintons whether that's using the
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clinton foundation as an international money laundering operation or whether that was hillary clinton's
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illegal violations of law disclosures of classified information but no nobody wanted to get into that
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over at the department of justice and so instead jeff sessions calls a meeting he calls you know those
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of us like jordan myself over to the department of justice it was my first time going over there
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so that we could talk through uh what he believed was the right use of the department uh in in uh
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bringing people to account and whether or not there would be a double standard you know one for the
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president and one for you know those who were viewed as untouchable because they were part of
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permanent washington so we go over there and i mean it was just like you know how you just walk into a
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room sometimes and you could tell who's in charge and who isn't and almost all of us to to a person
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on the uh congressional side like got the sense that the inmates were running the asylum over there
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the department of justice the jeff session wasn't the leader that he was like you know an employee over
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there i mean as some of the deputies and as some of the bureaucrats and as some of the permanent
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department people were lecturing us about why they weren't going to do what we asked and apply the
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same standard to both sides of the 2016 presidential election jeff sessions was literally standing over
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in the corner asking if people wanted sugar with their coffee and tea now again kind southern gentleman
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good guy but like that is not the person you want running the department of justice especially at a time
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when people were trying to weaponize elements of the fbi and the department of justice
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against the duly elected president of the united states so i i agree with the president that like
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jeff sessions belongs in a commercial for low t before he belongs back at the highest levels of the
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united states government based on uh just his lackluster performance and his inability to marshal
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some leadership over there at the department of justice so let's break down this letter that he sends
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today to the people of alabama why he's why he's in the news he says and i'm quoting from the letter
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i was a central figure in the campaign and was also a subject and a witness in the investigation
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and and here he's justifying his recusal like what what in the world does that mean he was the subject
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in the investigation they were investigating jeff sessions i mean like if you really believed you were
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the subject of the investigation and you're the attorney general you don't recuse yourself from
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that investigation you resign you resign now sessions was never a subject he was never a relevant witness
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i mean he had like a passing glancing uh you know handshake with some russian and they saw how weak he was
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and so they used that as a way to get him out of the way so that there would be no political leadership
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at the department of justice that was the whole deal so sessions was too weak to push back but then
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he was also too confused to just resign to just leave i mean it look i mean if he bought their crap
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and their garbage then he should have been out of there okay so the letter continues if i had ignored
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and broken the law the democrats would have used that to severely damage the president now i mean this is
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just the height of absurdity they used a multi-year investigation not just to damage the president
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but to damage the institution of the presidency to damage our country so he was worried that he not
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he not recused himself what they had gotten a few bad editorials in the new york times or or the
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washington post but like i mean you talk about the damage to our country that resulted from his lack of
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leadership it is really quite something that he had the nerve to write that in a letter to the people of
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alabama and then this is sort of how the letter closes i've always stood up for him and i never
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backed down not even for one moment i mean like give me a break i i just i can't believe he has the
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nerve to write that he did not always stand up for the president he could have said that this basis for
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recusal is obnoxious and absurd and i i am the ultimate leader of the department of justice as the
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confirmed a dirty general and it's nonsense and i'm not doing it but he didn't do it and he says i never
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backed down he absolutely backed down he had the opportunity to pull the recusal and he backed
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down when we called for him to do it uh and and frankly i think he would he would back down again
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if he were in the government so jeff sessions letter some real revisionist history thanks for
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