The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - Episode 2 - Jeff Sessions Reflections, COVID Senate Hearing, Richard Grenell Cleaning House

00:00:00.000 you ever watch this guy on television you all were not telling the truth and you should not

00:00:06.100 be trusted congressman matt gates thank you for what you did for your country today be offended

00:00:09.740 with the democratic whip not house republicans like a machine matt gates welcome to hot takes

00:00:16.900 i'm congressman matt gates let's talk about the news coronavirus task force members are testifying

00:00:22.900 before a senate health committee today i'll break down the information you want to know regarding

00:00:27.840 testing and the key work we've got to do as a country to rebuild our public health infrastructure

00:00:33.520 also last night trey gowdy confronted with some of the concerns that i had that i reflected on in the

00:00:40.040 last podcast about his support of the fbi back in 2018 we'll talk about his admission that he made

00:00:46.560 a mistake during that time what are the consequences and downstream impacts of that mistake in our

00:00:52.340 efforts to hold folks accountable rick grinnell making information available that i have been

00:00:58.460 calling on for a year the russia hoax transcripts this information is going to be key to telling us

00:01:04.900 who was involved in unmasking who knew what when and i think we'll find out the key members of the

00:01:11.100 obama administration who were working to destabilize the trump presidency both before and after his

00:01:17.600 election but first i want to thank the thousands of you who downloaded our podcast yesterday i'm sort

00:01:24.460 of new to the podcast game i want to thank my good friend charlie kirk over at turning point usa for

00:01:29.540 encouraging me to launch a podcast i'll be on charlie's show the charlie kirk show available for

00:01:35.560 download later today i'm sure that'll be a blast i also want to thank those of you who left your

00:01:40.460 thoughts reviews and comments over the national pulse raheem kassam who also is one of the hosts

00:01:45.700 of the war room pandemic podcast called hot takes interesting so we'll take that thanks raheem

00:01:52.980 not everyone loved it i'll say that uh this uh apparently i'm not for everyone and this show

00:01:59.440 may not be for everyone uh let's see probably the meanest review we got was uh the individual who

00:02:06.820 posted on twitter that they would rather eat a covid sunday covered in aids sprinkles uh then listen to

00:02:14.580 my podcast first a covid sunday covered in aids sprinkles would be very high carb right now and

00:02:21.000 since you know the gyms aren't open folks aren't getting out and you know playing basketball playing

00:02:26.260 playing sports as much uh in a team environment i would not suggest uh a sunday at this point in time

00:02:32.920 also we're seeing more and more evidence from our public health officials that obesity is a top

00:02:38.420 comorbidity indicating someone is likely to have severe consequences of the coronavirus so

00:02:44.460 if you were going to have a covid anything you would not want a covid sunday maybe maybe like some

00:02:50.020 covid kale but on a more serious note today the covid task force uh was giving testimony before the

00:02:57.440 senate health committee and dr redfried uh was there giving key public health information regarding

00:03:03.760 the importance of our health care infrastructure let's listen in uh to what the good doctor had

00:03:08.920 to say we need to rebuild our nation's public health infrastructure data and data analytics public

00:03:15.360 health laboratory resilience and our nation's public health workforce now is the time to put it in place

00:03:21.880 for the generations to come not only for the public health system that our nation needs but for the

00:03:27.720 public health system our nation deserves that analysis is i think central to not only our public

00:03:33.520 health mission but really our overall strategic mission when it comes to a medical equipment uh

00:03:39.400 ensuring that we are ready for the next virus uh from a mobilization standpoint that is akin to a

00:03:45.980 military mobilization we saw the need for that now and so i think that that is a great direction

00:03:51.960 to the congress going forward also we heard from dr gregoire regarding the advancements in testing

00:03:59.140 the millions of tests that have been done in our country the fact that we lead the world

00:04:02.880 and the number of tests done let's listen into that important testing information on march 12th

00:04:07.880 secretary azar requested that i lead the covet 19 testing efforts within hhs since then the nation

00:04:14.240 has performed more than nine million covet 19 tests a number far greater than any other country

00:04:20.320 and double the per capita test performed to date in south korea we also heard from dr fauci

00:04:26.220 let's listen to this exchange he had with the with the senate you might recall in this committee

00:04:30.880 that in january of this year i said that it would take about one year to 18 months if we were successful

00:04:38.140 in developing a vaccine the nih trial moved very quickly on january 10th the sequence was known

00:04:45.540 on january the 11th the vaccine research center met to develop a plan on the 14th of january we

00:04:52.720 officially started the vaccine development

00:04:54.640 rick grinnell the current acting director of national intelligence is making big news grinnell has gone

00:05:07.280 into this role with really a dust buster mentality to find the information that needs to be before the

00:05:13.580 american people and to get it out to not sit on it anymore i would suggest that acting director grinnell

00:05:21.720 has done more to expose the truth than any member of the trump administration has ever done

00:05:28.980 and now he's naming names that's right we will soon be learning the information regarding who in the

00:05:36.560 obama administration participated in the unmasking of general flynn and i think other corrupt motivators

00:05:44.740 for the trump russia investigation that we all now know to be an absolute hoax so congratulations to

00:05:51.860 director grinnell but i think it's really important to understand what has brought us up to this moment

00:05:58.240 where we've got this flood of disclosures that will soon be coming out and finally revealing the truths

00:06:04.280 that jim jordan and mark meadows and devin nunez and myself have been talking about for a number of years

00:06:10.480 regarding the unprecedented and unscrupulous efforts to undermine president trump and to try to steal this

00:06:18.060 election away from the voters so grinnell obviously is in this position because it had become vacant

00:06:23.740 the original director of national intelligence for the trump administration was dan coates dan coates

00:06:31.500 was easy to confirm and he's also easy to forget because he didn't release any of this information

00:06:38.460 that we're now finally getting that that is just so key to understanding the corruptness of the russia investigation

00:06:45.960 i mean you just think what we've learned since we've been in quarantine you know i mean before we went into

00:06:51.660 covid quarantine we didn't know that the sub sources of the steel dossier were actually the targets of russian

00:07:00.120 intelligence we've now just since learned that i mean we didn't know when we started quarantine

00:07:04.860 that even as the fbi was going to investigate flynn they were speculating as to whether or not the

00:07:12.020 whole deal was a setup and when we went into quarantine we didn't know that back in 2017 the

00:07:18.560 intelligence committee of the house was taking testimony where people like mccabe and brennan were

00:07:25.480 admitting that there was no evidence to suggest that president trump was colluding with russia or acting

00:07:32.280 at the behest of russia or serving as a russian agent we've just learned all that now like during this bizarre

00:07:39.300 period in human history where we've all been in some varying degree of of covid quarantine and you gotta ask

00:07:46.600 yourself why the hell didn't we learn this information in real time like why did we allow the american people

00:07:53.560 to even doubt whether or not our president was a patriot serving our country or whether he was as adam schiff

00:08:01.460 and eric swalwell and you know um chuck schumer were alleging you know possibly an agent of the russian

00:08:08.120 government that stuff was ridiculous and we knew it at the time and so dan coates is there serving as the

00:08:14.920 director of national intelligence he has precisely the same information that director grinnell has now

00:08:22.460 that he's getting out into the public square but coates doesn't release any of it and so here here's a clip

00:08:29.920 from me from one year ago almost a year ago to the day from right now we're back in may of 2019 i am

00:08:37.420 calling on dan coates to release the information that we are now only receiving we haven't had the

00:08:43.980 director of national intelligence dan coates actually lay out for us what was in the transcripts taken by

00:08:49.060 the house intelligence committee where they interviewed clapper where they interviewed comey and mccabe

00:08:53.320 and brennan and we ought to have that information he's been sitting on it for four months and we need to

00:08:57.640 get it out fascinating wait i i didn't know that and i'm over 50 transcripts have been voted out of

00:09:02.440 the house intelligence committee to be declassified so that we can get to the bottom of where the lies

00:09:07.640 existed and how this terrible investigation why hasn't coates made those public four months we're

00:09:12.340 still waiting so as we know coates doesn't respond to my call to release this information imagine how

00:09:17.720 much better things would be in terms of our clarity and our understanding of the truth

00:09:21.420 had he actually done that at the time but he doesn't and so he ultimately leaves and then

00:09:27.640 president trump nominates for the dni position my good friend fellow house judiciary member john

00:09:34.240 ratcliffe you guys will remember ratcliffe was spectacular during the impeachment process applying

00:09:41.120 his understanding of intelligence with his understanding of the laws a former u.s attorney and then having the

00:09:47.660 ability to really question witnesses in a way that framed up these important issues that allowed us

00:09:53.780 to expose impeachment expose the russia hoax in real time so trump nominates ratcliffe and it becomes very

00:10:01.340 clear upon that initial nomination that john ratcliffe despite his qualifications despite his abilities

00:10:08.440 is not going to get the senate support of key republicans uh and and the low-key message back on that

00:10:16.280 was that ratcliffe was too aggressive he was too eager he was too frankly he was probably too effective

00:10:22.660 at carving up these people like peter struck and rod rosenstein and robert muller and some senators

00:10:30.180 didn't like that they didn't think that was sufficiently austere and uh so you know without the strong

00:10:36.060 support of a lot of the republicans that we were going to need to get ratcliffe confirmed at that time

00:10:40.880 ratcliffe said look let me go back and focus on my work in the house and not be just a punching bag

00:10:46.020 over in the senate so he comes back continues to do great work but then with the position still open

00:10:52.100 there's the ability to move any other trump administration official who has received confirmation

00:10:58.000 in their current job into that position and i'll just tell you like the the guy in the trump

00:11:05.060 administration that is the dust buster that will go in and clean house and will not kowtow to the way

00:11:12.880 things used to be is ambassador rick grinnell uh who was serving us very valiantly in germany

00:11:20.060 representing our country's interests so president trump moves ambassador grinnell into the acting

00:11:25.440 dni position position and the left goes crazy they they know what's coming they know what they're going

00:11:32.700 to get with grinnell that the truth is going to come out and so the day that this is the big news

00:11:38.680 that trump is putting grinnell in this position i go on the view that's right abc's the view and uh

00:11:46.460 this is the exchange that i had on the view about ambassador grinnell trump announced he's appointing

00:11:51.140 another loyalist of his rick grinnell on rick's qualifications eight years at the un two years uh

00:11:58.140 in germany yeah he advised the security council and berlin where he was active is one of the hotbeds of

00:12:04.540 intelligence activity nothing happens there without the chief of station most of the ambassador working

00:12:08.580 together so rick grinnell is very qualified so you're saying he's qualified okay so i stuck up

00:12:13.960 for rick grinnell on the view and i just could not be prouder of the fantastic work that he's doing as

00:12:18.920 acting director of dni but he's acting so what does president trump do brilliantly i mean this is like

00:12:25.380 art of the deal to the max he then re-nominates ratcliffe for the permanent position so now like the people

00:12:32.900 who might not have loved ratcliffe because he's aggressive and effective and is really going to

00:12:37.720 expose the truth well now those people have a choice right either they can vote for ratcliffe

00:12:42.660 or they can leave grinnell in the current position and he's just going to keep rolling through these

00:12:47.160 disclosures and so i have ultimate confidence that we are seeing a massive upgrade at the dni position

00:12:53.760 and that we will see that in an enduring way going forward because either the senate's going to confirm

00:12:59.080 ratcliffe which they should and he knows where all the bodies are buried and he's going to get all of

00:13:03.500 this out of the open or they can leave rick grinnell there and the news of the day is that grinnell is

00:13:08.840 has handed over to bill barr the declassifications so that we can finally learn who in the obama

00:13:16.420 administration was specifically involved in the unmasking of michael flynn and that's going to tell us

00:13:23.140 who was driving the train in the obama administration to construct the entire russia hoax to begin with

00:13:29.760 and all of this is happening at the same time that you've got the durham investigation going on

00:13:34.240 really tweezing through the corrupt origins of the russia investigation uh the predication for it

00:13:40.240 and i am i'm just very confident now that with finally the right people with the right gumption

00:13:45.860 in the right place that we're going to get the job done and then it's going to happen

00:13:49.680 now that brings us to my my discussion about trey gowdy trey gowdy was the brilliant lawyer who in

00:13:58.240 2017 served on the intelligence committee and got all these admissions from the ic about the lack of

00:14:06.140 basis for the russia investigation but then in 2018 gowdy goes on television in the month of may

00:14:13.620 and says you know the fbi did nothing wrong none of this had anything to do with trump

00:14:18.720 and we should all just trust the fbi trust our institutions trust robert muller and everything's

00:14:24.300 going to be okay and as soon as gowdy does that then paul ryan goes out and parrots the same thing

00:14:28.760 so you can only imagine if you're a jim jordan or a matt gates or a lee zeldin or an andy biggs

00:14:33.700 and you're out there every night saying there's something rotten in denmark this deal is corrupt

00:14:38.460 and then news anchors are feeding you back the words of trey gowdy and paul ryan and saying well

00:14:44.480 gowdy says everything's fine so what you what do you matt gates know that trey gowdy doesn't know

00:14:49.080 and it made it very difficult for us and so here's the big news last night trey gowdy goes on

00:14:55.580 tucker carlson tonight and tucker really presses him on these issues and let's listen to that exchange

00:15:01.520 you were briefed by the fbi in 2018 and shortly after briefing came on this channel to describe

00:15:07.900 your reaction to it here's what you said then but as of now i think chris ray and rod rosenstein

00:15:13.740 are stunned whenever people think trump is the target of their investigation i'll leave it up to

00:15:19.480 them how to brief the president that you're talking about right now was that strengthened

00:15:23.780 when you went into this briefing last week yes i am i am even more convinced that the fbi did exactly

00:15:30.580 what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got and that it has

00:15:35.740 nothing to do with donald trump i remember watching that and thinking boy i hope he's right i do you

00:15:40.060 still feel that way oh gosh no no that was i made a lot of mistakes in life relying on briefings and not

00:15:47.340 insisting on the documents it took me about three weeks i went over to the department of justice

00:15:51.700 i sat there for four hours that's when i saw that peter struck actually initiated and approved

00:15:57.620 crossfire hurricane that's when i saw the exculpatory information on george papadopoulos

00:16:02.820 that's when i saw for the very first time that it was the trump campaign mentioned in that predicate

00:16:08.540 document they've been telling us all along trump's not the target the campaign's not the target so

00:16:14.220 yes my mistake was relying on the word of the fbi and the doj and not insisting on the documents

00:16:20.480 right luckily it took me about three weeks to correct that mistake it is not often that a member

00:16:25.480 of congress or even a former member of congress admits their mistakes but frankly i think it's a sign of

00:16:30.260 strength you know when i screw up when i make a mistake i try to say i'm sorry i'll try to do

00:16:34.580 better next time i think that every human being has an error rate and it's always good when we can

00:16:39.440 acknowledge that because i think it makes it more productive for us to move forward so gowdy last

00:16:44.160 night admits that it was a mistake for him to essentially take up for the fbi as those of us who

00:16:51.900 were more aggressive who i think perhaps had more foresight into what was really going on

00:16:55.940 were trying to get accountability applied and the cost of that mistake is really something that i

00:17:02.900 think we've got to understand because we had sent all these document requests to rod rosenstein and

00:17:09.100 christopher ray to get the necessary information to expose the liars and crooks and thieves over there

00:17:15.500 and they would delay and then they would redact and like finally we were at the point where we had

00:17:21.800 i believe the support from the rank and file members of the republican conference to hold these

00:17:26.480 people in contempt if necessary and and to potentially even start impeaching officials

00:17:31.400 within the administration that weren't complying with our requests to get to the bottom of the

00:17:36.300 corrupt russia hoax i mean that that was seriously something under consideration with a lot of the

00:17:41.040 conference but then when gowdy and ryan go in a back room and meet with rosenstein and christopher

00:17:48.340 ray rosenstein and ray essentially sell him a bill of goods and instead of using the leadership skills

00:17:54.680 to ask tough questions to demand direct review of documents to have access to witnesses they just took

00:18:02.000 their word for it and i do think that that failure of leadership does not have a temporary impact on our

00:18:09.320 ability to hold these people accountable it might in fact be the permanent reason why folks get away

00:18:16.460 with stuff that they otherwise wouldn't have gotten away with had we had the ability to actually run

00:18:20.480 all these leads to ground so i'm glad trey admitted this was a mistake trey remains a brilliant lawyer i

00:18:26.360 still think he's a good guy but this was something that uh that really cost us a lot and uh you know

00:18:32.960 those perhaps next time uh if there is a circumstance where you know some of some of the members like

00:18:39.340 jim jordan and myself raise these concerns to leadership uh we hope that they won't dismiss us and take the

00:18:45.900 word of the people who are acting corruptly against the president uh another time around you know

00:18:50.820 that's all we can hope is that we learn from those mistakes but what about paul ryan trey gowdy has

00:18:55.380 admitted his mistake but shouldn't paul ryan admit his matter of fact it was paul ryan who just after

00:19:01.340 gowdy made the claims that we should all trust the fbi came out and said he agreed with gowdy he agreed

00:19:06.780 with those assessments so i'm glad gowdy has admitted his mistake i think that the next time paul ryan has an

00:19:11.960 interview a reporter should ask him whether or not he regrets not giving us subpoena power whether he

00:19:18.140 regrets just taking the fbi's word for it in light of the fact that he was relying on gowdy and gowdy

00:19:23.760 now has in fact recanted those views and reflected on them with some regret

00:19:28.740 jeff sessions sends an open letter to the people of alabama today regarding his time as attorney

00:19:42.020 general i think that has some very significant historical context and so i want to talk about

00:19:47.900 it i want to talk about that letter about my experience with jeff sessions as a member of the

00:19:52.520 judiciary committee that oversees the work of the justice department that he led and some of the

00:19:57.580 interactions i had with him which were just downright bizarre and and why i think this letter is pretty

00:20:02.500 bizarre itself i'll start by saying i think that jeff sessions was a great senator when you look at his

00:20:08.200 views on immigration uh being pro law enforcement i think that he made a number of uh good calls there

00:20:16.260 and did a good job but i mean as attorney general woof you know i mean he showed political courage coming

00:20:25.100 out and supporting the president i think he was one of the first or if not the first u.s senator to

00:20:30.000 back trump came out to that big rally in mobile uh and and really a lot of the work that came out of

00:20:38.620 sessions office as a senator i think and i suspect can likely be be traced back to the brilliant mind of

00:20:45.300 steven miller who of course now is a senior policy advisor to the president i mean steven miller is one of the

00:20:50.940 smartest people i have ever interacted with i i'm always like just uh gleeful when i can steal a few

00:20:57.760 moments of his time to ask his perspective on issues and uh he worked for sessions and i think

00:21:03.600 he makes that made sessions look very very good i don't i don't even know if miller might have had a

00:21:07.380 role in sort of talking to sessions about getting with trump because steven has that kind of foresight

00:21:12.600 that kind of of intellect and and and i think uh you know the ability to really understand how policy

00:21:19.960 and politics interact with one another so i i talked to the president uh once about sessions

00:21:26.060 uh while he was i think sessions was attorney general at the time and i mean you know the

00:21:31.040 president said that uh when he went to the rally in mobile and sessions shows up that trump didn't even

00:21:37.700 know who sessions was i mean he didn't even know like who is this guy apparently he's a senator who

00:21:42.580 wants to endorse you and so then when trump wins you know i mean i think that he didn't exactly go

00:21:48.600 into the president-elect didn't exactly go into washington with some massive rolodex of every

00:21:54.720 person in dc and what they had done and what their capabilities were if anything the president won

00:21:59.960 because he was he was not of washington he was not of that world and sessions was a guy that that had

00:22:05.740 shown early loyalty had shown some political courage and so the president wanted to include him as

00:22:10.820 administration and the president president once shared with me that he said like look i mean we

00:22:15.880 offered him anything but attorney general i mean we wanted to give him a number of other jobs in the

00:22:20.020 administration and just over and over again sessions just wanted to be attorney general that was it

00:22:25.620 that was that was his sole focus and ultimately they decided to give him a chance and the president

00:22:31.800 shared with me that to this day he still believes that that was the worst personnel move that he ever

00:22:38.120 made was uh offering the attorney general position to jeff sessions that that that was just a um

00:22:44.320 totally uh unnecessary dearth of leadership uh that we allowed to serve in a role that was so

00:22:52.840 critically important as people were trying to to really convert our own government into a political

00:22:59.380 operation against the person that the voters had selected i mean that that that is what was going on

00:23:04.980 and uh sessions did not have have the ability to to handle that let's go back and hear uh some of

00:23:11.120 the president's reflections in his own words jeff sessions was a disaster he was so bad in his

00:23:17.340 nomination you know proceedings i should have gotten rid of him there he knew less about russia than i did

00:23:22.540 he knew nothing about russia jeff was just very weak and very sad and when the name russia was mentioned

00:23:30.220 just the word russia he immediately instead of being a man and saying this is a hoax

00:23:34.800 he recused himself so it's clear the president doesn't have confidence in jeff sessions as a

00:23:40.180 leader and and i'll just share with you the story of why i don't have any confidence in jeff sessions

00:23:44.620 it was july of 2017 and after taking just relentless incoming from the democrats regarding oh trump

00:23:54.900 russia michael flynn all the stuff we now know to be nonsense after all that was going on uh you had

00:24:01.580 a desire from the house republicans to actually start punching back you know to actually use the tools

00:24:10.100 the democrats are using against us and actually get out there and and fight this fight rather than just

00:24:15.860 taking the incoming which was seemingly the jeff sessions paul ryan view of the world so jim jordan

00:24:22.900 and ron de santis and andy biggs and myself and and mike johnson and a number of other members of

00:24:29.720 the house judiciary committee sent sessions a letter saying we think that a special counsel should be

00:24:35.180 appointed not to investigate the president but to investigate all the corruption that swirls around

00:24:42.280 the efforts to delegitimize the president to the benefit of the clintons whether that's using the

00:24:47.820 clinton foundation as an international money laundering operation or whether that was hillary clinton's 0.51

00:24:54.120 illegal violations of law disclosures of classified information but no nobody wanted to get into that

00:25:01.100 over at the department of justice and so instead jeff sessions calls a meeting he calls you know those

00:25:07.780 of us like jordan myself over to the department of justice it was my first time going over there

00:25:12.660 so that we could talk through uh what he believed was the right use of the department uh in in uh

00:25:20.260 bringing people to account and whether or not there would be a double standard you know one for the

00:25:26.200 president and one for you know those who were viewed as untouchable because they were part of

00:25:31.140 permanent washington so we go over there and i mean it was just like you know how you just walk into a

00:25:37.640 room sometimes and you could tell who's in charge and who isn't and almost all of us to to a person

00:25:45.160 on the uh congressional side like got the sense that the inmates were running the asylum over there

00:25:51.800 the department of justice the jeff session wasn't the leader that he was like you know an employee over

00:25:57.620 there i mean as some of the deputies and as some of the bureaucrats and as some of the permanent

00:26:03.180 department people were lecturing us about why they weren't going to do what we asked and apply the

00:26:09.920 same standard to both sides of the 2016 presidential election jeff sessions was literally standing over

00:26:16.900 in the corner asking if people wanted sugar with their coffee and tea now again kind southern gentleman

00:26:23.660 good guy but like that is not the person you want running the department of justice especially at a time

00:26:30.340 when people were trying to weaponize elements of the fbi and the department of justice

00:26:34.300 against the duly elected president of the united states so i i agree with the president that like

00:26:40.180 jeff sessions belongs in a commercial for low t before he belongs back at the highest levels of the

00:26:48.340 united states government based on uh just his lackluster performance and his inability to marshal

00:26:54.400 some leadership over there at the department of justice so let's break down this letter that he sends

00:26:59.840 today to the people of alabama why he's why he's in the news he says and i'm quoting from the letter

00:27:04.940 i was a central figure in the campaign and was also a subject and a witness in the investigation

00:27:11.840 and and here he's justifying his recusal like what what in the world does that mean he was the subject

00:27:19.540 in the investigation they were investigating jeff sessions i mean like if you really believed you were

00:27:25.780 the subject of the investigation and you're the attorney general you don't recuse yourself from

00:27:31.580 that investigation you resign you resign now sessions was never a subject he was never a relevant witness

00:27:39.680 i mean he had like a passing glancing uh you know handshake with some russian and they saw how weak he was

00:27:48.720 and so they used that as a way to get him out of the way so that there would be no political leadership

00:27:53.780 at the department of justice that was the whole deal so sessions was too weak to push back but then 0.98

00:28:00.580 he was also too confused to just resign to just leave i mean it look i mean if he bought their crap 0.97

00:28:08.120 and their garbage then he should have been out of there okay so the letter continues if i had ignored 0.98

00:28:13.980 and broken the law the democrats would have used that to severely damage the president now i mean this is 0.97

00:28:20.840 just the height of absurdity they used a multi-year investigation not just to damage the president

00:28:28.540 but to damage the institution of the presidency to damage our country so he was worried that he not

00:28:34.440 he not recused himself what they had gotten a few bad editorials in the new york times or or the

00:28:39.720 washington post but like i mean you talk about the damage to our country that resulted from his lack of

00:28:46.280 leadership it is really quite something that he had the nerve to write that in a letter to the people of

00:28:50.180 alabama and then this is sort of how the letter closes i've always stood up for him and i never

00:28:56.460 backed down not even for one moment i mean like give me a break i i just i can't believe he has the

00:29:03.940 nerve to write that he did not always stand up for the president he could have said that this basis for

00:29:08.440 recusal is obnoxious and absurd and i i am the ultimate leader of the department of justice as the

00:29:13.700 confirmed a dirty general and it's nonsense and i'm not doing it but he didn't do it and he says i never

00:29:18.260 backed down he absolutely backed down he had the opportunity to pull the recusal and he backed

00:29:24.180 down when we called for him to do it uh and and frankly i think he would he would back down again

00:29:29.120 if he were in the government so jeff sessions letter some real revisionist history thanks for

00:29:34.580 listening to hot takes with matt gates we'll be back tomorrow with another episode

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The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - May 12, 2020

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