The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - Episode 26 - Zoom is Not Our Friend. Historic Police Reform. Breaking News on 2A Protections.

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Hot Takes, this is Congressman Matt Gaetz.

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00:00:23.820 down to your phone, giving us that five-star rating, we'll be at a thousand in no time.

00:00:28.980 Let's talk about the news, and the news is coronavirus rising. That's what we see from

00:00:35.580 the media. That's what we see from positive test result gross numbers. It's even what we're seeing

00:00:41.460 from the positivity rate in the state of Florida, but does that tell the whole story? I was interviewed

00:00:46.720 by Charles Payne. Here was my reaction to those questions. Our governor is going on offense against

00:00:52.740 this disease. We aren't merely setting up testing sites and having like the field of dreams approach

00:00:58.320 that if we build it, they will come. We're going into underserved areas, into the communities that

00:01:04.260 support our agriculture industry. We're going into prisons. And so, of course, the more you play

00:01:09.420 offense, the higher your positivity rate will be. But then we want to lash that data to what Dr. Birx

00:01:15.380 has called the best contact tracing system in America that the Florida Department of Health

00:01:20.840 has been able to utilize. Then we can get our contract tracers to actually track these instances

00:01:26.860 down. The worst case would be just having these positivity rates go undetected. And so that's why

00:01:33.400 I'm very confident in the Florida approach. So really, if you're doing things right as a state,

00:01:37.860 if you're going into the areas where they might not come to a drive-through test site,

00:01:42.880 they might be in more confined spaces, closer living spaces, higher living density. If you're proactive,

00:01:49.520 you'll actually find a higher rate. But with good contact tracing, I'm confident we're not seeing

00:01:55.240 a shutdown again in the future of the great sunshine state.

00:02:01.600 China is not our friend and Zoom is not our friend. Zoom is a company that is influenced 0.99

00:02:10.220 substantially by the politics of China and the oppression of China. And following this coronavirus

00:02:16.940 pandemic, I feel like every time I turn around, someone's inviting me to another Zoom get-together, 0.99

00:02:23.880 Zoom conference. And I mean, we are doing everything in our office to try to get away from

00:02:30.280 reliance on products and particularly technology products that have dual use and that are influenced

00:02:38.480 by China. So there's this report in Axios entitled, Zoom Closed Account of US-Based Chinese Activist

00:02:44.940 to comply with local law. And it is the story of a US-based prominent activist and his account

00:02:53.640 being closed as a consequence of an event commemorating the 31st anniversary of the June 4th Tiananmen

00:03:00.200 Square massacre. I mean, that is really quite something that they would bow to that pressure.

00:03:05.360 It shows who Zoom really is, and it should motivate us to develop the platforms and to use American

00:03:13.300 platforms that are not susceptible to this type of political pressure. Whether it's from Silicon Valley

00:03:20.280 or whether it's from Beijing, I don't think that the four corners of speech should be dictated in this

00:03:27.960 country. I think that we have to envision the vindication of the values that underpin our First

00:03:34.380 Amendment rights through the lens of an environment where a lot of folks in Silicon Valley want to

00:03:39.760 dictate what can be talked about, what's taboo, and then even international forces that own the tech

00:03:45.200 that's being utilized want to put their thumb on the scale. We have to love America enough to ensure

00:03:51.160 that we can accommodate a robust debate within this country and that we're not subject to interference

00:03:57.080 either here at home or abroad.

00:04:02.460 If you thought the mafia, La Cosa Nostra, was bad, wait till you hear what I have to tell you about the internet giant eBay.

00:04:10.900 That's right. eBay will cut you. They are serious about terrorizing their critics. There was a couple in Massachusetts

00:04:21.220 that were running an online newsletter critical of eBay, and you will not believe what eBay did to them.

00:04:28.280 Here's the story. It's coming to us from Reuters. Jonathan Stemple reporting six former eBay employees

00:04:34.360 charged with cyber stalking a Massachusetts couple. So if you go and create an effective online newsletter

00:04:41.620 criticizing eBay, let me tell you what they've been charged with. A determined, systematic effort

00:04:49.000 to emotionally terrorize a couple with anonymous email threats and deliveries such as live cockroaches,

00:04:57.060 a bloody Halloween pig mask, a funeral leaf, and a book on surviving the loss of a spouse.

00:05:05.680 That is some cold, cold stuff to send to a married couple. A book on surviving the loss of a spouse 0.88

00:05:11.640 from eBay. I wonder if they even sell that book on eBay. But I mean, so who's sending this? The defendants include

00:05:19.220 eBay's former senior director of safety and security, James Baugh, 45, of San Jose, California.

00:05:27.060 And former director of global resiliency, resiliency, I'd say, David Harville, 48, of New York. So these

00:05:34.440 these like Gen Xers in their 40s are running around sending bloody pig masks and books on surviving the 0.99

00:05:41.980 loss of a spouse. On one of the emails they wrote following the delivery of the pig mask, they wrote

00:05:48.120 in all caps, do I have your attention now? Question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark.

00:05:55.180 Everyone's entitled to a fair trial, we're innocent until proven guilty, but if you ever wonder

00:06:02.560 like the lengths these tech companies will go to when they get into this this like sorcery mentality that

00:06:09.340 everything that they do is justified by the continuation of their own existence, it's pretty dark where they'll take you.

00:06:15.800 Bid on that eBay.

00:06:21.180 Some breaking news, there's always a need to vindicate our Second Amendment rights and even in the most pro-Second

00:06:27.760 Amendment of governments like President Trump's, there are occasionally folks who try to make it more

00:06:32.400 difficult to acquire the things that shooters need and gun owners need for safety and for the unique

00:06:38.060 circumstances that an individual may have. I know we worked hard on the Hearing Protection Act so that

00:06:43.400 we could have less impact to people's ears and eardrums as they're firing. Unfortunately that became

00:06:51.680 something that Democrats in the Senate blocked even when we we had a tremendous amount of support in the

00:06:56.640 House of Representatives in the last Congress. But now what we find is that the ATF is actually making it very

00:07:05.240 difficult for people to have arm braces. They are changing standards and changing rules and you know my

00:07:11.480 mother's in a wheelchair. I'm sensitive to people who might have a disability where an arm brace might 1.00

00:07:17.320 be helpful and I'm particularly frustrated when our government at the administrative and executive

00:07:23.240 level goes beyond their their grant of authority in our Constitution and in our federal statutes.

00:07:30.040 Nothing gives anyone at ATF the ability to constrain the use of arm braces for firearms the way that

00:07:35.880 they're attempting to do. So the breaking news is this I'll be sending a letter to the Department of

00:07:40.600 Justice asking for a review of the decisions made by ATF and asking that ATF stop in this crazy effort

00:07:48.280 to limit access to arm braces for people who seek to have them for their firearms use.

00:07:58.040 Donald Trump is president today because of the millions of Americans who are stuck in the middle.

00:08:05.320 He talks about them as the forgotten Americans, but I think of them as the folks who, you know,

00:08:11.480 aren't rich enough to have maybe the job that's got a gold-plated health plan or the ability to just

00:08:17.800 pay cash for whatever medical need comes up, but also not poor enough to take advantage of every

00:08:24.040 entitlement program that provides free health care. And so they're in that tough middle. You know,

00:08:29.640 these are the same Americans who, you know, maybe they can't afford the best private school for their

00:08:36.280 children, but they're also, you know, not on the free and reduced lunch program. And so they're making

00:08:43.560 college tuition and children in just regular K-12 schooling work with an American family.

00:08:51.640 And these are the folks I worry about as I see police reforms that are invariably going to lead to two

00:08:59.480 different standards for policing in America. I worry that if we pass reforms that keep police officers

00:09:07.880 in their car, keep them out of a proactive mindset, reforms that inhibit the engagement that community

00:09:16.600 policing would define, you know, I, I think what will happen is that the folks that have, you know,

00:09:25.000 a lot of money, uh, people who can afford their security are going to pay for it. You know,

00:09:31.320 it's human nature to lean into Maslow's hierarchy of needs and security is sort of the, the bottom of

00:09:39.400 the pyramid in that hierarchy. And so rich people will, will end up with like, you know, imagine the

00:09:47.560 types of, of rent a cops that roll around, you know, Nancy Pelosi's neighborhood, uh, the other types of,

00:09:54.760 you know, gated communities where we're very wealthy people live. Uh, right now they have

00:10:01.400 security that's sort of, you know, low grade. I think you're going to start to see like an echelon

00:10:06.760 of security services provided for like your high end homeowners associations, your high net worth

00:10:13.960 individuals, your high end condominium associations. And it's going to be like some, you know, former

00:10:19.480 military, former, like, you know, high end tactically trained law enforcement. And those people are going

00:10:25.480 to be able to provide real physical security to wealthy Americans for real money. And then I think

00:10:33.080 that, you know, if you're in, if you're, if you truly have nothing, maybe you have less to worry about

00:10:39.160 that your stuff's going to get taken, that your house is going to get broken into. But those folks in

00:10:43.800 the middle who, you know, they've got, they've got nice things, you know, they live in places that

00:10:49.320 maybe it's not the best neighborhood, but, uh, it, you gotta, you know, uh, a lot of stuff that

00:10:54.680 somebody would love to walk off with if they could just catch you in a, in an unguarded moment.

00:11:00.360 And it's those Americans and they're white, they're black, they're Asian, they're of every

00:11:08.280 background, but they're middle class, they're blue collar. A lot of them live in, you know,

00:11:14.200 transitioning neighborhoods and it's just going to be really difficult for folks who, um, feel like

00:11:22.520 the policing that taxpayers are funding to support all of us, uh, has been constricted to the point

00:11:29.240 that it's no longer useful. And it's that lens through which we have to evaluate these policing

00:11:35.400 reforms that are, that are coming forward. And I do believe that we can make reforms to improve

00:11:41.480 policing. You know, I'm not going to defend the chokehold. I think that there's some interesting

00:11:46.760 technology and better training on various types of vascular lateral pressures that don't constrain

00:11:53.480 the windpipe. If there's a better way to do that, I'm all for it. I don't love no knock warrants.

00:11:58.360 You know, if someone barged into my home and didn't announce their presence, that would be a threat

00:12:04.680 to me. I would, I would, I would feel the need to vindicate my rights under Florida's castle doctrine

00:12:10.520 and protect my home. So, uh, you know, I think that, that those are, are useful reforms.

00:12:16.600 I don't believe that there's been any adequate defensive lynching provided in the Congress or a

00:12:21.800 defense at all. Uh, that should be a federal crime. And if a lynching occurs, that is a crime against

00:12:29.640 America. It really is. And I've, I've no problem with that as a reform. I would support that.

00:12:35.640 But when, when you start with the efforts to limit the body armor that police could get,

00:12:43.320 when the, the immunities that give police the ability to make hair trigger decisions, uh, with,

00:12:52.040 you know, the best of information that they have with them in, in a particular context,

00:12:58.520 I just don't know if, if we've got to eliminate those immunities. Now, I think we should lash them 1.00

00:13:02.840 to training. I think we should provide training. I think that, you know, the equities we have to

00:13:08.200 balance in training are that, uh, we've got a need to allow innovation at the local level so that

00:13:15.000 policing can improve balanced against a platform to share best practices. So I've been encouraged by

00:13:21.960 what, uh, some of my Republican and Democrat colleagues have talked about regarding creating

00:13:27.080 platforms to share those best practices and allow, uh, various, uh, various reactions.

00:13:32.840 Uh, I think that some of these reforms, when it comes to better training, community policing,

00:13:38.920 uh, and local execution. And when we, when we think about those things, I think they're well reflected

00:13:45.880 in the president's executive order. And here's the president, uh, talking about the executive order

00:13:50.760 he's signing today regarding policing. Today is about pursuing common sense and fighting,

00:13:58.200 fighting for a cause like we seldom get the chance to fight for.

00:14:03.640 We have to find common ground. We need leaders at every level of government who have

00:14:08.440 the moral clarity to state these obvious facts. Americans believe we must support the brave men

00:14:16.520 and women in blue who police our streets and keep us safe. Americans also believe we must improve

00:14:23.320 accountability, increase transparency, and invest more resources in police training, recruiting,

00:14:32.200 and community engagement. I think the president made a lot of progress here. Obviously he can't do

00:14:37.240 it alone. We need a Congress willing to step forward and seriously evaluate these issues.

00:14:42.280 And I'll be doing that tomorrow in the house judiciary committee.

00:14:47.400 The black lives matter movement has been defrauded by a 67 year old black music producer in Los Angeles. 0.99

00:14:56.440 The story being broken by Buzzfeed news, Ryan Mack and Brianna Sachs, the black lives matter foundation

00:15:04.680 raised millions. It's not affiliated with the black lives matter movement. So this guy,

00:15:10.120 the 67 year old music producer sets up the black lives matter foundation on the GoFundMe platform,

00:15:18.120 a group of students get together and donate money to it, believing that they're they're supporting

00:15:24.920 the black lives matter political cause. And then employees from Google, Microsoft, let's see what other

00:15:34.680 companies. Apple got together and raised millions of dollars for this foundation, which is just this

00:15:43.240 one guy in LA. And when he was reached out to asked if he would, you know, turn the money over to the,

00:15:50.920 the political protests, he replied that he would not. He said, no one owns the concept adding that.

00:15:57.720 And I'm quoting the story as a black man. His life has been tainted by painful experiences with the police,

00:16:04.440 including the 2011 death of his wife's ex-husband, allegedly at the hands of the Los Angeles police department.

00:16:13.400 So he's saying they killed my wife's ex-husband. He believes that to be the case. And so he is keeping the north of

00:16:22.040 four million dollars that has been given to the black lives matter foundation. But I guess the other

00:16:28.120 black lives matter folks are, are not happy. They're trying to get the funds frozen and they would like

00:16:34.040 them redirected. I remember when this happened in 2010, following the tea party movement, no one really

00:16:40.120 owned the tea party. It was a very organic movement of people who were frustrated at a non-responsive

00:16:46.360 government. And everyone was trying to, you know, build the best tea party donor list,

00:16:50.680 build the best tea party organizing platform. And like every consultant in Washington claim that they

00:16:58.520 spoke for the tea party and that they knew all the tea party's leadership. And the reality was there were a lot of

00:17:03.860 people who became millionaires just by sort of capitalizing on that branding, selling merchandise and

00:17:09.860 building and renting lists. So I suspect the same thing will happen with this, with this black lives matter 1.00

00:17:17.000 uh, uh, uh, uh, experience that we're going through. And, uh, gosh, what a, what a world. I, uh, I don't know if

00:17:25.240 he's, if he's going to get the four million, but he thinks he's entitled to it. Good reporting from BuzzFeed News.

00:17:33.320 College football coaches at major programs are even at risk of being canceled by their players as a

00:17:40.280 consequence of their politics, maybe even their wardrobe. I don't believe that policing is inherently

00:17:49.560 racist, though there likely are people who are racists who are in policing and any other number

00:17:56.440 of industries. But there are elements of college football, particularly big program college football.

00:18:03.960 I mean, that, that just make you wince. I mean, if you, before we get into the specific case of the specific

00:18:09.640 coach and the politics of cancel culture and on college campuses in particular right now, just look at, at the

00:18:18.200 organizing principle of college football. You've got predominantly white management at the athletic director

00:18:26.760 level in a lot of the athletic offices where people are making these big six figure salaries.

00:18:33.560 You've got predominantly management at the coaching level, particularly the head coaches. There's, you

00:18:38.520 know, big drop off between what these head coaches are making and what assistance are making, uh, just

00:18:44.120 about everywhere other than Clemson and Alabama. And then you have predominantly black labor in terms of the 0.87

00:18:50.760 high end college football talent. Uh, the fact that all of this wealth and value is generated by the labor

00:19:00.840 force transfers to management. And then, you know, the kids aren't getting paid. They're not getting to

00:19:06.920 exploit their likeness for profit just seems fundamentally unfair. And the fact that there is a

00:19:13.960 substantial racial element to who is creating the value and then who's taking the money off the table

00:19:20.120 cannot be ignored. And so I get the fact that there are some tensions in college football, uh, when it

00:19:26.040 comes to these issues of racial divide in our country. And it seems to be an area where, uh, where

00:19:32.520 you're starting to see more, more politics, uh, more social advocacy. And, uh, you know, we can discuss

00:19:40.280 whether that's for the better or for the worse. In this particular case in Oklahoma state, I think it's

00:19:46.680 probably for the worse. Let's look at the attempted cancellation. So Mike Gundy, the coach of, uh,

00:19:52.680 Oklahoma state has gone fishing in Texoma, Texoma. Uh, and he is wearing a one America news t-shirt.

00:20:02.600 Now I've been on one America news. I know a lot of my colleagues will go on that news channel. There

00:20:07.720 are good journalists there, uh, like, uh, John Himes, who go out and really try to capture the

00:20:13.320 the perspective of the people engaged in lawmaking and share that. There's also some opinion on the

00:20:19.400 show that is conservative, just like there's opinion on just about every hour of a lot of

00:20:25.400 the mainstream media that is liberal. So OAN leans right. Most of the media leans left. And so

00:20:32.600 Chubba Hubbard, upon seeing a photo of Mike Gundy fishing or after his fishing trip or before his

00:20:39.960 fishing trip and his OAN shirt tweets, I will not stand for this. This is completely insensitive

00:20:45.720 to everything going on in society. And it's unacceptable. I will not be doing anything

00:20:50.840 with Oklahoma state until things change, change in all caps. So Chubba Hubbard putting the pressure

00:20:58.760 on, and this is not just, you know, uh, any, any old player. He is likely their best player. He was the

00:21:05.160 unanimous all American and big 12 offensive player of the year, more than 20 touchdowns,

00:21:11.080 rush for about 2000 yards, a big part of what they got going on. And it'll be interesting to see

00:21:16.200 like to what extent this might drive some other changes in college football. Uh, I agree with the

00:21:22.200 proposals from Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, Gavin Newsom, the governor of California

00:21:27.720 to allow these players to benefit from the economic value that they create in developing a brand.

00:21:33.160 And you know, I called them kids earlier in the segment, but they're really not kids. I mean,

00:21:37.080 they are, they're adults. Like by the time you go to college, you're a freaking adult, 0.95

00:21:40.840 you're 18 years old, and you ought to be able to get some value out of what you create. So don't

00:21:44.840 cancel your coaches, but cash in the checks because it's quite something to see the athletic excellence

00:21:51.880 displayed in college football. But let's just not ensure that we have such a constrained view of debate

00:21:58.840 that we cancel someone's contributions to athletics because we don't like their fishing.

00:22:06.840 More and more, we're seeing police fed up with the demonization of their profession,

00:22:12.360 the diminution of the contribution that they make to our safe communities. And they're starting to

00:22:17.080 fight back, particularly against the politicians that are not credible when talking about the work that

00:22:24.280 we need to do to improve the relationship between law enforcement and those that they serve. So we

00:22:30.280 got the Fraternal Order of Police President, John Catanzara, defending Chicago police officers who were

00:22:37.640 accused of lounging around while rioters broke into the office of Congressman Bobby Rush. And he's got

00:22:44.120 some pretty sharp words for Congressman Rush. Here is FOP President John Catanzara.

00:22:50.680 Who's the coward? Bobby Rush still hasn't apologized from three years ago when he accused Chicago police

00:22:55.800 officers of racial profiling during a traffic stop, which body can't prove he was an absolute liar. 1.00

00:23:01.560 He's a piece of garbage. He hates the police. So as we work into policing reform in the Congress, 1.00

00:23:07.000 I think it is critically important that we get the buy-in from police officers. You know,

00:23:11.160 one of the things that really came to the surface in our discussions with the White House leading up

00:23:16.120 to the development of the president's executive order being signed today is the need to have law

00:23:21.480 enforcement buy-in. The Obama administration had these lofty goals that they would set all these

00:23:27.320 guidelines and practices and that police departments would just rush to the embrace of

00:23:32.600 the federal government's involvement in local policing and community policing. And the reality is,

00:23:38.440 I think there were only like 15 law enforcement agencies out of the tens of thousands around

00:23:43.800 the country that were interested in adopting those recommendations. And so I think, again,

00:23:49.000 this has got to be something that we do together. And I think the president's executive order is a

00:23:53.880 great first start. And I think we can do even more in the Congress to improve policing.

00:23:58.840 Thanks for listening. If you enjoyed the show, make sure to subscribe so that you get updates with

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The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - June 16, 2020

Episode 26 - Zoom is Not Our Friend. Historic Police Reform. Breaking News on 2A Protections.

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