The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - April 26, 2022


Episode 38 LIVE： Leaders & Liars (feat. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

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Marjorie Taylor Greene at the border hearing
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Kevin McCarthy Donald Trump Matt Guides Joe Biden Karl Rove Marjorie Taylor Greene Anthony Fauci Lauren Boebert Chris Christie Brad Raffensperger Alejandro Mayorkas Madison Cawthorne Clarence Thomas Border Patrol Robert Malone Muriel Bowser Sam Harris Barack Obama Ben Bergquam Andy Biggs and 4 more
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On this week's episode of Firebrand Live, we have a special guest on the show, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She's back from a trip to the border with Joe Biden and joins us to talk about her trip. We also have the latest on the latest in Rep. Matt Gaetz's case against the Deep State and why he should be allowed to run for re-election in his Florida district. And we have an update on what's going on with Marjorie Taylor Greene.

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00:00:00.000 The embattled Congressman Matt Gaetz.
00:00:03.680 Matt Gaetz was one of the very few members in the entire Congress who bothered to stand
00:00:07.600 up against permanent Washington on behalf of his constituents.
00:00:10.940 Matt Gaetz right now, he's a problem for the Democratic Party.
00:00:13.760 He could cause a lot of hiccups in passing applause.
00:00:16.940 But we're going to keep running those stories to get running in.
00:00:20.540 If you stand for the flag and kneel in prayer, if you want to build America up and not burn
00:00:26.840 her to the ground, then welcome, my fellow patriots.
00:00:30.140 You are in the right place.
00:00:31.840 This is the movement for you.
00:00:33.920 You ever watch this guy on television?
00:00:36.560 It's like a machine.
00:00:38.340 Matt Gaetz.
00:00:39.480 I'm a canceled man in some corners of the Internet.
00:00:43.600 I'm a marked man in Congress, a wanted man by the deep state.
00:00:48.400 They aren't really coming for me.
00:00:50.520 They're coming for you.
00:00:52.780 I'm just in the way.
00:00:56.840 Welcome back to Firebrand Live.
00:01:02.060 We've got Elon leading a purchasing Twitter.
00:01:05.300 We've got Joe Biden lying on the border on marijuana policy, Fauci fascism, the latest
00:01:12.720 in GOP leadership.
00:01:14.520 And to break it all down, the unbeatable, unstoppable Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:01:19.960 If you're watching, make sure to leave us a comment.
00:01:22.400 We can read those, respond to them on air.
00:01:23.920 The very first comment we got from Christy Porter Knapp, tell us what is going on with
00:01:29.500 MTG exclamation point.
00:01:31.820 Only her district should be allowed to keep her off the ballot. 1.00
00:01:34.780 We're going to break down that hearing and everything in just a moment.
00:01:37.980 But Congresswoman, you have just returned from the border.
00:01:41.140 And I want you to give our viewers and listeners the direct report, what you saw at Eagle Pass
00:01:47.140 on your trip that you're literally just landing back in Washington from.
00:01:50.360 Well, it was, I'm just going to say it's far worse than people realize.
00:01:55.540 It's one thing to see it on the news.
00:01:57.460 It's one thing to read about it on the internet or in the paper.
00:02:01.700 But it's a true invasion every single day with an average of 7,000 illegals.
00:02:07.520 Those are the ones they know about coming across the border.
00:02:10.580 And Joe Biden is absolutely fueling it.
00:02:14.180 He is the greatest business partner to the cartels they have ever had.
00:02:18.940 And he's the king of the cartels.
00:02:21.220 This is the largest human trafficking operation in the world, Matt.
00:02:27.060 And the United States taxpayers are paying for it.
00:02:29.600 If Joe Biden was the king of the cartels, it would be his greatest accomplishment.
00:02:33.280 You know what I mean?
00:02:33.620 It is.
00:02:34.320 It is his greatest accomplishment.
00:02:35.240 Here's what a lot of people, I think, want to know. 1.00
00:02:38.440 Is the border open in America because these people are utter fools and don't know what 1.00
00:02:42.920 to do? 1.00
00:02:43.760 Or is the border open in America because they have purposefully destroyed Trump's policies
00:02:48.520 and the stuff that they know works?
00:02:49.820 It's absolutely intentional.
00:02:51.720 They have purposely destroyed his policies.
00:02:55.220 And this is a worldwide organization.
00:02:58.120 It is a funded, intentional operation to invade America. 0.76
00:03:03.920 And it's happening every single day.
00:03:05.880 People are coming.
00:03:07.080 Well, I sent you that clip.
00:03:08.220 Our friend, Ben Berkwam, he was down in Panama.
00:03:11.840 I sent you that because I wanted you to say, I said, let's go, Matt.
00:03:14.400 We should go there.
00:03:15.380 And I'm still going to push you to go.
00:03:17.220 But people are coming.
00:03:17.940 Here we come, Panama.
00:03:19.180 Firebrand Live from Panama is going to be real interesting.
00:03:21.700 But.
00:03:21.940 Well, we always go where.
00:03:23.460 But you were checking both ends of this chain of people.
00:03:26.840 It's not just about standing there, you know, on a CODEL with Border Patrol and hearing
00:03:31.700 it firsthand about how they're so frustrated.
00:03:34.260 Their hands are tied.
00:03:35.200 They're suicidal.
00:03:35.960 They hate the Biden administration, don't they? 0.62
00:03:37.720 They hate the Biden administration.
00:03:39.180 I mean, these are the folks that turned their back on Mayorkas when he went down to the border.
00:03:43.900 They feel disrespected by this administration.
00:03:46.140 They are disrespected.
00:03:47.540 And then you watch.
00:03:49.060 Here they are.
00:03:50.000 They're basically the welcoming committee.
00:03:52.600 They're forced to be the welcoming committee.
00:03:54.280 And it's a slap in their face because that's not what they were trained to do.
00:03:57.800 That's not why they have the jobs they have.
00:03:59.700 As a matter of fact, it's the opposite.
00:04:01.540 Then they take them in.
00:04:02.360 They process them.
00:04:03.940 And ICE gives them not an ankle bracelet, Matt, but a free cell phone courtesy of Joe Biden.
00:04:09.220 Barack Obama gave out cell phones for votes.
00:04:12.080 Well, we got Joe Biden gives you a cell phone when you invade our country illegally.
00:04:16.140 Well, we are going to cover a great deal more of that in the coming week.
00:04:18.980 Alexander Mayorkas has a number of appearances before Congress.
00:04:24.000 We're going to be bringing folks the clips from that, the highlights, frankly, a lot of the lowlights.
00:04:29.180 One lowlight for the republic occurred during this last congressional work period where a bizarre administrative process in Georgia had you giving testimony for like five hours on whether or not you're an insurrectionist.
00:04:44.120 And what I really appreciated kind of looking back on it and having been there to observe it is that this is like a lot of kind of the anti-MTG attacks.
00:04:52.860 They think that if they treat you worse than everyone else and subject you to unspeakable things that no one else has to go through, that that will weaken you.
00:05:02.020 And what they never expect is that it will make you stronger.
00:05:05.180 They did that when they stripped you from committees.
00:05:07.760 Then you got oversight on all committees.
00:05:09.740 They don't like that very much.
00:05:10.940 You know, now they're going after your ability to stand before your voters.
00:05:15.300 You know, this is the issue lighting up the comments section right now.
00:05:19.040 People all across the country and in Georgia saying they stand with you.
00:05:23.120 And how have your vote?
00:05:24.100 Let's start with this.
00:05:25.000 How have your voters reacted to this effort to disenfranchise them?
00:05:30.140 That's the greatest question.
00:05:31.420 You know, no one wants to talk about in the media and the mainstream news, you know, on CNN and Sunday shows and the New York Times, et cetera.
00:05:38.800 They don't want to talk about how my district actually feels about it.
00:05:42.120 And they are so angry.
00:05:44.420 My district offices are receiving phone calls.
00:05:47.720 They can't even answer the phone because so many people are calling in.
00:05:52.220 Our phone lines are completely shut down with so many phone calls of support.
00:05:57.120 But people in the district saying, how do we stop this?
00:06:00.140 How do we stop?
00:06:00.780 We are so angry.
00:06:01.700 They cannot affect our ability to vote.
00:06:03.600 Well, they're standing up for themselves.
00:06:05.100 Yeah.
00:06:05.460 Because, you know, in Georgia, frankly.
00:06:06.880 Who cares about their right to vote?
00:06:08.120 In Georgia, there's a lot going on right now that would lend some people to believe that their vote is not precious.
00:06:13.420 Because you have a secretary of state and you have an election administration system in Fulton County that dilutes the votes with fraudulent activity.
00:06:23.700 And then their vote isn't even precious enough for them to be able to give it to you, according to some group of people, I bet, largely funded outside the state of Georgia.
00:06:32.040 Oh, 100%.
00:06:32.900 Do you think this is an effort to distract you from the very important work you're leading in Congress?
00:06:38.380 Well, this is the playbook of the left.
00:06:40.340 It's create chaos.
00:06:41.720 Chaos after chaos after chaos after chaos.
00:06:44.040 Crisis after crisis after crisis after crisis.
00:06:46.240 And it's flood the system so that everyone is just overwhelmed with this intense level of chaos and crisis.
00:06:53.040 But they're failing flat on their face.
00:06:55.320 This is a group.
00:06:56.220 These aren't my voters.
00:06:57.700 You know, we have over 700,000 people in Georgia 14.
00:07:00.700 And guess what?
00:07:02.080 Congratulations to Free Speech for People.
00:07:03.840 They found five.
00:07:05.080 Five voters.
00:07:06.240 Guess what?
00:07:06.680 One of them happens to be the Democrat chairwoman for our district. 0.77
00:07:10.880 So if everyone knows what's going on here, you know, at the end of the Civil War, there was a concern that former Confederate officers would run for Congress and be elected and then take action that wasn't in service of the Union or reconciliation or reunification of our country, but instead would continue to be in service of the Confederacy.
00:07:31.380 So these novel features of state law have laid dormant since the era after the Civil War.
00:07:38.980 And now you have partisan, well-funded groups doing everything they can to try to exercise these novel elements of state law, particularly against Madison Cawthorne, Andy Biggs, Paul Gosar, and you.
00:07:52.720 And here's the thing, in the matter of Biggs and Gosar in Arizona, in the matter of Cawthorne in North Carolina, federal courts stepped in and they issued injunctions against that bizarre state process.
00:08:07.400 But in your case, didn't the federal judge have some, like, weird nexus to the mainstream media?
00:08:13.640 Well, it happened to be related to a certain person that works for NPR, her sister.
00:08:20.500 Oh, great.
00:08:20.840 So when Clarence Thomas' wife sends text messages, all of that is immediately imputed to him.
00:08:25.900 Of course.
00:08:26.060 But you can have somebody, you know, with this familial relationship with NPR, who I'm sure they've said some pretty nasty things about you, not a problem at all, and then ruling on this case.
00:08:36.100 But what I thought was really one of the most bizarre things I'd ever seen in a courtroom in my life was when they tried to accuse you of calling for bloodshed and violence by referencing the year 1776.
00:08:52.380 Right.
00:08:52.860 Of all things.
00:08:53.620 So let's go to a clip from the hearing and take a listen.
00:08:57.940 And you know that the term 1776 is actually a term that's sometimes used in politics today.
00:09:08.620 I don't know if you've noticed our state seal here in Georgia.
00:09:13.080 I know you're not from Georgia.
00:09:14.820 But as you can see, we enjoy our history and we're proud of our freedoms.
00:09:20.200 1776 is on our state seal.
00:09:22.180 Right.
00:09:22.420 Wow.
00:09:25.840 I don't know how the court could possibly rule that a reference to 1776 was coded insurrection, while 1776 is literally hanging over the judge's head in the courtroom.
00:09:37.460 It was really an unbelievable moment.
00:09:40.480 Interesting thing about that lawyer questioning you, he had a tremendous amount of cat hair on his suit, which was my favorite thing about him.
00:09:47.340 But what do we know about the folks that are funding that nonsense?
00:09:50.740 Well, I know they're not from Georgia, that's for sure, because they don't quite understand how we feel about 1776, that we're proud of our freedoms and our country's founding, so much so that we have it on our state seal.
00:10:03.320 And by his definition and the way he was framing everything or trying to frame and lie about me, that very courtroom would be guilty of trying to wage an insurrection because the seal is hanging on the wall behind the judge and it says 1776.
00:10:17.740 I just wonder if that irony smacked him in the face as he was staring at the seal with 1776.
00:10:23.880 There are moments, like, as a lawyer in a courtroom where you know this is not going well, and that was particularly a courtroom riddled with those moments from the petitioner.
00:10:33.020 Any word on when we expect a decision?
00:10:35.520 Not a decision.
00:10:36.480 The judge, in this case, under this bizarre feature of novel state law, makes recommendations to Brad Raffensperger.
00:10:43.420 So I guess, you know, democracy rests in the fragile and shaky hands of Brad Raffensperger on this one.
00:10:49.060 But what's the window of time for the judge to issue findings of fact and conclusions of law?
00:10:53.040 It should be within a week or two.
00:10:54.820 I do want to point out something since we're members of Congress and I want to discuss this with you.
00:10:59.080 So this group, they're a funded group of attorneys.
00:11:03.820 They're more like activists.
00:11:06.020 They're not interested in my...
00:11:07.920 I know the type.
00:11:08.640 They don't care about democracy.
00:11:09.840 They don't care about my district's vote.
00:11:11.420 They don't care about free speech as a matter of...
00:11:13.180 They're trying to silence my district's speech by ripping me off the ballot, taking away my district's ability to vote for me when I've done absolutely nothing wrong.
00:11:20.660 They're funded by a lot of groups, you know, groups like Cloud Mountain Foundation, Kohlberg Foundation, Overlook Foundation.
00:11:30.360 This is all public information.
00:11:32.220 Park Foundation, San Francisco Foundation, Schumann Media Center, and so forth.
00:11:37.640 Here's what's interesting, Matt.
00:11:38.800 The views that they hold, the policies that they want, the laws that they want in place in our country are things like they want illegals to vote.
00:11:49.080 They want to...
00:11:50.700 They not only fund abortion, they fund Planned Parenthood, Narrow, and they protect it.
00:11:55.700 They go after the most...
00:11:58.020 They pursue the most radical left policies that I completely oppose and work against.
00:12:03.940 This is what this is really about.
00:12:05.780 That's what this case is about.
00:12:07.040 It has nothing to do with what happened on January 6th because we all know, and they know, and everyone knows, all we did was object.
00:12:15.440 But this has everything to do with pursuing the radical left's policy and pushing their policies, and they have to remove people like me, people like you, the strongest fighters in Congress, to do it.
00:12:27.000 Well, I know how proud your district was of you, and certainly as your colleague, I was proud of you because you handled that effort with, I think, a tremendous amount of grace, and I would not have been so graceful.
00:12:40.560 So I give you all the credit in the world, and a lot of folks right now giving credit to Elon Musk for putting his money where his mouth is on Twitter.
00:12:49.960 Elon, restore Trump, restore the Babylon Bee, and restore the account of my colleague Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:12:57.640 Make Twitter fun again.
00:12:58.860 I feel like Elon has basically been carrying the platform without you there.
00:13:03.760 Are you expecting a reinstatement?
00:13:06.420 I should get a reinstatement.
00:13:07.920 I was supposedly banned for COVID misinformation.
00:13:11.280 But, you know, a lot of people don't understand.
00:13:12.980 They're like, well, she is on Twitter because of her RepMTG account.
00:13:16.260 But that's not necessarily true.
00:13:18.100 As you know, as members of Congress, we have rules about what we can and can't say on our congressional social media platforms where we have our free speech on our personal accounts.
00:13:31.900 And so my personal account is permanently banned for what Twitter said was COVID misinformation, but there was not misinformation there.
00:13:40.520 It was my opinion, free speech, and then quoted information.
00:13:43.240 You were telling people that they would be more resilient against COVID if they lived healthier lives and lost weight and went to the gym, which, you know, started as misinformation and then ended up being medical doctrine.
00:13:58.000 If you are not reinstated, what does that tell us about the mascara of Twitter?
00:14:03.520 If my personal account is not reinstated, which I can't imagine it not being reinstated.
00:14:09.620 Dr. Robert Malone, I saw he had his account back today, and he was taken off permanently banned for COVID misinformation.
00:14:17.640 I've noticed an uptick in, like, the last 48 hours.
00:14:20.880 I think the shadow ban, like, clasp may be coming off.
00:14:24.020 The Woketopians. 0.99
00:14:24.620 I think it's kind of going back and forth.
00:14:26.360 Right.
00:14:26.700 Maybe the grip's loosening.
00:14:28.240 It's not off, but maybe it's loosening.
00:14:29.540 Well, I think there's, like, some people in there still, like, trying to apply it maybe back and forth.
00:14:33.360 I've gotten a lot.
00:14:34.060 I know we've gotten a lot more followers.
00:14:36.200 Some of my tweets have just.
00:14:37.760 There could be any number of reasons why you're getting more followers.
00:14:40.520 Talk about compounding factors.
00:14:42.620 And really what we stand for is free speech.
00:14:45.640 Just the notion that in a world in which people are confronted with challenging information,
00:14:50.420 that they can review sources, that they can be critical of arguments.
00:14:54.260 I believe in an America that is strong enough to face disinformation without the Twitter overlords,
00:15:00.460 like being the arbiters of truth.
00:15:02.140 I believe in people.
00:15:03.520 People are smart enough to figure it out.
00:15:05.440 Well, one thing that I think a lot of folks are figuring out is what's going on currently in GOP leadership.
00:15:12.740 And it was much the talk of the Sunday shows, of the mainstream media, comments attributed to Kevin McCarthy,
00:15:21.500 comments made by Kevin McCarthy.
00:15:23.440 The New York Times originally publishing the article that, I guess, McCarthy held the view that Donald Trump should resign.
00:15:30.700 And then after that, we saw Kevin McCarthy issue a pretty unequivocal denial, denying the veracity of those things.
00:15:39.240 And after that denial, we heard the words of Kevin McCarthy.
00:15:45.420 Liz, you on the phone?
00:15:47.200 Yeah, I'm here.
00:15:48.000 Thanks, Kevin.
00:15:48.480 I guess there's a question.
00:15:50.880 When we were talking about the 25th Amendment resolution, and you asked, you know, what happens if it gets there after he's gone,
00:15:58.800 is there any chance, are you hearing, that he might resign?
00:16:03.020 Is there any reason to think that might happen?
00:16:07.120 I've had a few discussions.
00:16:10.260 My gut tells me no.
00:16:11.840 I'm seriously thinking we're having that conversation with him tonight.
00:16:18.860 I haven't talked to him in a couple days.
00:16:22.920 From what I know of him, I mean, you guys all know him, too.
00:16:26.120 Do you think he'd ever back away?
00:16:27.860 But what I think I'm going to do is I'm going to call him.
00:16:32.760 This is what I think.
00:16:37.500 No one will pass the house.
00:16:38.860 I think there's a chance he'll pass the family even when he's gone.
00:16:45.400 And I think there's a lot of different ramifications for that.
00:16:48.840 Now, I haven't had a discussion with the Dems that if he did resign, would it not happen?
00:16:55.720 Now, this is one personal fear I have.
00:16:59.340 I do not want to get into any conversations about Pence's pardoning.
00:17:04.240 Again, I mean, the only discussion I would have with him is that I think this will pass.
00:17:09.960 And it would be my recommendation we should resign.
00:17:14.200 I mean, that would be my take, but I don't think he would take it.
00:17:19.280 But I don't know.
00:17:20.060 I do know there was never a chance that Donald Trump was going to resign the presidency.
00:17:26.480 He is not a quitter.
00:17:27.920 He's a fighter.
00:17:28.760 He's still fighting.
00:17:29.940 He's still not quitting on behalf of the American people and the changes we need.
00:17:34.660 And there's always a problem when you ever have leadership express a viewpoint that is wildly out of touch with where the majority of the conference is.
00:17:42.500 And I could tell you there was never a moment where you had a critical mass of Republicans believing that Donald Trump either would or should resign.
00:17:50.980 But the second problem is that you have McCarthy making this very specific denial followed by audio that seems to contradict that denial.
00:18:01.780 And so that then doesn't become like about the truth of the matter asserted.
00:18:05.860 It comes to bear around whether or not someone's statements are reliable in the future going forward.
00:18:14.120 We heard this from Kevin McCarthy when pressed on that specific subject in the last several days.
00:18:22.700 Congressman, have you spoken with President Trump recently?
00:18:25.660 Did you speak with him last night?
00:18:27.280 No, I spoke to him twice today.
00:18:28.540 I just spoke to him an hour ago.
00:18:30.620 How was your conversation?
00:18:31.620 Did you talk to him about the New York Times report and the conversation you had about...
00:18:38.160 Oh, the conversation is very good because the conversation here is what they said we did.
00:18:44.540 We never did.
00:18:45.100 I mean, I never asked President Trump to resign.
00:18:47.920 We both talked about that.
00:18:50.240 We've talked about...
00:18:50.780 Did you speak with him about resigning?
00:18:52.240 No.
00:18:52.700 Let me be very clear.
00:18:53.720 You're mis...
00:18:54.520 I have never asked the President to resign.
00:18:57.640 So what the book said was not true.
00:19:00.880 I never asked the President to resign.
00:19:04.020 So I guess the spin there is that Leader McCarthy believed that Trump should resign,
00:19:09.780 but never said to Trump that he should resign, even though he was telling other members of the leadership team
00:19:15.480 that he was going to say that to President Trump.
00:19:19.480 What do we make of all this?
00:19:21.700 Well, I was just...
00:19:22.420 When I was thinking about it, I was remembering when all that happened.
00:19:25.720 And I think...
00:19:27.140 I remember just boldly defending President Trump because I know that's how the people felt.
00:19:33.640 And I remember you were doing the same thing.
00:19:35.520 There was only a few of us that jumped out like right in front right away because we knew he didn't plan it.
00:19:40.680 We knew he had nothing to do with it.
00:19:42.460 None of us knew that was going to happen.
00:19:44.080 We were shocked and we were upset.
00:19:46.460 Remember, it stopped our ability to object.
00:19:49.860 People were accusing Lauren Boebert of leading like reconnaissance tours.
00:19:53.640 What, with her children?
00:19:55.100 Right.
00:19:55.600 And her husband?
00:19:56.680 And they were accusing you of laying pipe bombs.
00:19:58.140 And here's what people don't know.
00:19:59.400 The reason Marjorie Taylor Greene has a total alibi from the pipe bomb thing is that I have never seen this woman in a hoodie.
00:20:05.920 We travel all around the country together and I don't even think you own a hoodie.
00:20:09.040 I don't think you'd be caught dead in a hoodie.
00:20:10.580 You don't have to respond to that, just my sense, my read of the facts, but we were out doing those things.
00:20:16.120 And did you sense that there was ever a critical mass of Republicans who believed that Trump should have resigned?
00:20:22.120 No, the people didn't.
00:20:24.600 The people were, I mean, still are solidly behind President Trump.
00:20:30.240 And I remember we were boldly saying that and there were, you know, folks here that were just falling apart because they were being pressed by the media.
00:20:38.600 They've been here too long.
00:20:39.640 They don't know how to function.
00:20:40.720 They forget how real people feel.
00:20:42.680 And so, but by us boldly saying how much we support President Trump, we're standing with him and all of this and fighting impeachment.
00:20:50.960 Well, there was a turnaround, wasn't there?
00:20:53.040 Yeah.
00:20:53.400 And we saw a turnaround from those that thought they needed to say things against him.
00:20:57.540 And you know what?
00:20:58.400 We should always invite people to join us if they have a change of view.
00:21:02.620 Maybe they saw some of the arguments we were making.
00:21:04.660 Oh, yeah, of course.
00:21:05.060 And I don't think that has to be a reason to bash anyone or any leader.
00:21:08.500 I don't think it's disqualifying for someone to change their mind and come to the view that we held.
00:21:13.560 Absolutely.
00:21:14.260 And I am concerned, and we haven't had any tapes on this, I am concerned of reports that Leader McCarthy would say that people like Lauren Boebert need to be removed from Twitter.
00:21:23.600 I worry about that greatly, but I don't just believe anything written in the New York Times.
00:21:29.740 So on the issue of whether or not he called for other people to be removed from Twitter, if he says that didn't happen, you know, it's his word against the New York Times, and I don't believe the New York Times.
00:21:40.120 I know that they lie about us.
00:21:41.420 I will very seriously say I would hope that no one in leadership in our party or in our party period would call for another member of Congress to be removed from social media.
00:21:52.640 What would be the consequences if that's true?
00:21:54.580 That is a complete violation of our freedom of speech.
00:21:58.560 Would it be disqualifying for a leader of our conference?
00:22:00.240 Well, I'll tell you why I have a particular concern.
00:22:01.960 I hope that none of that is true because I lost my Twitter account, and I don't think it was COVID misinformation, Matt.
00:22:09.840 Well, I think it's that it was probably too much truth you were saying that some people didn't like.
00:22:16.140 Some people didn't like it, but I sure don't want to think that anybody here in this place has anything to do with anyone losing their social media accounts because our job is to protect the First Amendment.
00:22:29.280 I don't even want the Democrats to lose their social media accounts.
00:22:32.120 No, I don't want them to either.
00:22:33.120 I don't even want the Taliban to lose their social media accounts. 1.00
00:22:34.420 I love the stupid things they say. 0.99
00:22:35.480 Yeah, I mean, I just think that, like, I am not afraid that a tweet is some dangerous thing. 0.99
00:22:40.620 Or maybe one day we'll all come together and actually work for the people of this country and protect our country, and maybe we'll all agree one day.
00:22:46.360 I'd love to see that happen.
00:22:48.080 The Sunday shows discuss this, as you might imagine, and we came up in a couple of those circumstances.
00:22:53.780 This will be ABC This Week and Fox News Sunday.
00:22:57.800 Take a listen.
00:22:59.280 Give us the long view on the impact of this leak, both for McCarthy and for House Republicans.
00:23:07.220 Well, I think it's a blip.
00:23:08.940 I don't think it's going to be consequential in the long term.
00:23:12.320 McCarthy has very strong ties on most of the elements of the Republican conference.
00:23:18.320 There may be a few dissidents, the sort of Matt Guides, Marjorie Taylor Green wing of the party,
00:23:23.080 which seems to consist of basically two people.
00:23:26.040 But I don't think this is going to be a significant blip.
00:23:29.280 Kevin McCarthy is afraid of Trump.
00:23:31.460 He needs Trump in order to become Speaker of the House.
00:23:34.740 And he's afraid of turning off his base.
00:23:38.240 I think the real part of that conversation that came out this week that we should all be talking about is what he said about his members.
00:23:45.580 He said they should be taken off social media.
00:23:48.000 Now, I don't know what the prosecutor will say about that, but I can tell you what the partisan political person will say about that.
00:23:53.700 Tell me that, you know, Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert and others are not upset that Kevin McCarthy insinuated that they should be, you know, taken off Twitter and Facebook.
00:24:05.920 And right after that, Chris Christie reflected that, well, he didn't need our votes anyway.
00:24:12.940 Do you think that there's a coalition that can lead a Republican conference and a Republican majority that is able to just ignore and cast aside those of us who are a little more outspoken on things?
00:24:25.340 No. I want to tell you about Karl Rove.
00:24:28.700 Karl Rove's wing of the party is the failure part of our party.
00:24:33.600 They're very much the operating component that led us into never-ending foreign wars, that killed American soldiers, brought them home missing limbs, gave them PTSD,
00:24:46.560 gave them addiction to narcotics and medications that led to addiction to meth, that led to addiction to heroin, that just destroyed people's lives.
00:24:57.520 Their wing of the party led us to this massive debt the American people are in.
00:25:02.020 Their wing of the party sent our jobs overseas.
00:25:04.780 Their wing of the party is the complete failure that exists here in this town, Matt, and nobody cares what Karl Rove has to say.
00:25:11.580 Everyone cares about what you have to say.
00:25:13.700 People care about what I have to say.
00:25:15.680 People care about what Donald J. Trump, the 45th president of the United States, has to say.
00:25:20.480 People care about our wing of the party.
00:25:22.480 But you want to know why?
00:25:23.740 Our voters are our wing of the party, the vast majority of them. 0.99
00:25:27.500 So Karl Rove can go kiss my ass because I could care less what he has to say about any of us. 0.99
00:25:33.060 And he's dead wrong. 1.00
00:25:34.380 He's disconnected.
00:25:35.380 And shame on Fox News for constantly having him on there.
00:25:37.760 Well, I do not believe that there is a single Republican running in a single primary in America that would rather stand on stage with Karl Rove or Chris Christie than Marjorie Teller Green and Matt Gaetz.
00:25:50.740 You know, the proof's in the pudding.
00:25:52.300 Actually, bring them on.
00:25:53.520 Yeah.
00:25:53.880 I would love to debate them.
00:25:55.180 We should have a debate with Karl Rove and Chris Christie, you and I.
00:25:59.380 I'm for it.
00:26:00.620 Why don't – you know what?
00:26:02.120 We'll do it on Fox or on ABC.
00:26:04.000 Either one.
00:26:04.960 We'll go to you guys.
00:26:06.540 With our track record, ABC would have it before Fox, maybe.
00:26:10.340 Maybe.
00:26:10.840 I don't know.
00:26:11.600 We still –
00:26:12.140 I'd love to be surprised.
00:26:13.480 I would love it.
00:26:14.120 Well, and I think more importantly, the shaping of our party is not just a difference in style.
00:26:21.520 And I think that the Chris Christie's and Karl Rove would say, well, because we have stylistic differences than the traditional ways of Washington.
00:26:28.600 But we should be ignored.
00:26:30.720 But the reality is on the policies that you just laid out, with a more focused foreign policy, with a view of the American worker that is an ambitious one and a supportive one, the border, gun rights.
00:26:43.860 I mean, we are in a position that a lot of these rhinos are not. 1.00
00:26:48.040 And I think that the energy is with us.
00:26:50.460 And you know what?
00:26:50.860 There might be more of them inside the beltway of Washington, D.C., but there's more of them that are like us, that are going to be voting in these primaries that run from now through September.
00:27:00.140 So the proof will be in the pudding, and it's my expectation that we'll continue to have a great way to shape that discussion.
00:27:05.900 One discussion that you led, you were the first one, was on the Fire Fauci Act.
00:27:10.700 And I was struck by a recent statement from The Little Fascist.
00:27:16.180 Here it is.
00:27:18.520 It was perfectly logical for the CDC to say, wait a minute.
00:27:23.600 We were planning on ending this mandate on a certain date.
00:27:28.140 Let's wait a period of time until May 3rd, which was a very sound public health decision.
00:27:35.060 So for a court to come in and interfere in that is really unfortunate.
00:27:40.420 It's unfortunate because it's against public health principles, number one.
00:27:44.320 And number two is because that's no place for the courts to do that.
00:27:47.880 This is a CDC decision, and that's very bad precedent when you have courts making a decision and looking at what the basis of the decision was.
00:27:57.020 It was not sound.
00:27:58.800 So it goes Fauci, God, and then somewhere below that, the courts.
00:28:03.720 I mean, so we live in a world where they're trying to use the courts to kick you off the ballot and not allow your voters the opportunity to choose you or to choose a different candidate.
00:28:13.940 And yet they think that the courts have no role in reviewing something so long as the great wizards of public health decide that that's what the control is that they want to have over us.
00:28:25.920 I mean, shouldn't Americans be more worried about someone with this much power just blatantly expressing a view that is neo-fascist?
00:28:33.420 Everyone is worried, and that's why they hate him.
00:28:36.420 You know, he talks about a court intervening.
00:28:39.740 You know who intervened and ruined people's lives?
00:28:42.420 Our government.
00:28:43.620 Our government intervened with their tyrannical shutdowns that ruined our children's education for two years, that killed our grandparents in nursing homes, caused people to die alone without their family, caused my father not to go to the doctor and get a cancer diagnosis because he and my mom were afraid to go out of the house.
00:29:01.080 You know, Dr. Fauci has a lot of nerve saying something like that right there, especially after he led the effort that shut down small businesses, that pushed people at home into depression and suicide by themselves, that still has people running around, perfectly young people. 0.83
00:29:25.000 I mean, I see them all the time, healthy young people, but they're still wearing a mask because they've been brainwashed by the stupid television and Dr. Fauci and everyone else that they have to wear masks and, oh, and that masking is caring. 0.97
00:29:38.100 Masking is, this is, that is insanity. 0.97
00:29:40.480 All of this insanity came from Dr. Fauci's power trip that he absolutely doesn't want to let go of.
00:29:47.760 Well, and, and the hypocrisy is, we will, through the course of this week, hear Democrats try to craft a narrative in committees that, you know, we are authoritarians and that they need things like the January 6th committee to stop our future insurrections.
00:30:03.140 We heard that from AOC, right?
00:30:03.940 Saving democracy while they're trying to destroy democracy by taking my name off the ballot with a lie.
00:30:08.920 Right, so, I mean, these people who want to cast us in the role of these, like, dangerous authoritarians are trying to throw you off the ballot despite the wishes of your voters and they're trying to say that Anthony Fauci somehow rests in some place above the U.S. judicial system so long as there's a public health nexus to the government's desire to, to, to get power.
00:30:29.440 So, don't fall for it this week.
00:30:31.440 There's going to be a lot going on.
00:30:33.120 Marjorie, how can folks follow you and stay up with your work this week in the Congress?
00:30:37.520 And what's at the top of your desk before we, we get out of here and get back to work?
00:30:40.500 Oh, Rep MTG is my Twitter handle.
00:30:44.460 MTG, look for that.
00:30:45.840 You can, any verified account on all the social media platforms, that's me.
00:30:49.220 Don't follow the non-verifieds. 0.71
00:30:50.680 Those are the, the fake ones.
00:30:53.220 Also, my website is green, with an E on the end, dot house, dot gov.
00:30:58.680 You can see a lot of my bills there, a lot of my work.
00:31:01.620 You can also read the report that is on my website about the January 6th pre-trial defendants.
00:31:09.880 And it is still shocking, and we are still working on getting a date, waiting on Mayor Muriel Bowser, Matt, to give us a date to go take our trip back to the D.C. jail and go check on conditions there and the pre-trial January 6th defendants that are rotting away.
00:31:24.960 While Antifa BLM rioters enjoy freedom and, you know, still enjoy that fact that Kamala Harris and Ilhan Omar bailed them out of jail by sharing the Minnesota Freedom Fund link.
00:31:36.180 Every week, she is working on this.
00:31:38.820 Every week, she is fighting for civil rights for folks and ensuring that there is due process and fairness.
00:31:45.560 We're not these people's lawyers, but we do have an oversight responsibility as members of Congress, and you take it as seriously as any.
00:31:53.420 The unstoppable Marjorie Taylor Greene, thanks for being back on Firebrand Live.
00:31:57.620 Let's go have a great week in the Congress.
00:31:58.900 Sounds good.
00:31:59.280 Thank you, Matt.