The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - Episode 39 LIVE： Biden’s Military Purge (feat. Active Duty Service Members) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

00:00:00.000 Matt Gaetz was one of the very few members in the entire Congress who bothered to stand

00:00:07.740 up against permanent Washington on behalf of his constituents.

00:00:10.760 Matt Gaetz right now, he's a problem in the Democratic Party.

00:00:13.880 He could cause a lot of hiccups in passing the laws.

00:00:16.900 So we're going to keep running those stories to keep hurting him.

00:00:20.300 If you stand for the flag and kneel in prayer, if you want to build America up and not burn

00:00:26.200 her to the ground, then welcome, my fellow patriots.

00:00:29.500 You are in the right place.

00:00:31.200 This is the movement for you.

00:00:33.300 You ever watch this guy on television?

00:00:35.460 Like a machine, Matt Gaetz.

00:00:37.820 I'm a canceled man in some corners of the Internet.

00:00:41.180 Many days, I'm a marked man in Congress, a wanted man by the deep state.

00:00:46.040 They aren't really coming for me.

00:00:47.980 They're coming for you.

00:00:49.800 I'm just in the way.

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00:01:05.780 The Joe Biden administration is doing everything in their power to purge our military of people

00:01:12.060 who just have independent thought or religious exemptions to vaccines or even medical exemptions.

00:01:18.240 There has been a substantial impact on America's military readiness as a consequence of the

00:01:25.000 flawed policies of the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, and frankly, some of the Republicans

00:01:30.940 have gone along with it, even some of the Republicans on the House Armed Services Committee.

00:01:36.020 So in this episode, we have an unbelievable interview with three service members, active duty today,

00:01:42.900 loving our country, willing to fight for our country and lend their talents to America's

00:01:48.340 defense.

00:01:49.460 But they're at risk of coercion, retaliation, expulsion, dishonorable discharge.

00:01:56.980 You see, I think when Republicans retake control, we're going to have to find the circumstances

00:02:00.940 where members of our military were driven out as a consequence of vaccine mandates, and we're

00:02:05.840 going to have to restore those people.

00:02:07.260 But you are going to be moved and inspired when you hear what these military members have

00:02:13.260 been through, what their colleagues have been through, and now what they think about military

00:02:18.020 service.

00:02:18.620 It's really something.

00:02:19.700 But a lot is happening on the Hill today as well.

00:02:23.060 The Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas, is testifying right

00:02:28.700 now before the House Judiciary Committee.

00:02:31.520 Our border is in total crisis.

00:02:33.380 And the point that the American people have to get is that this is on purpose.

00:02:37.940 It's not like the border can't be sealed.

00:02:40.120 The policies of Title 42, Remain in Mexico, and Save Third Country, all working together

00:02:47.440 alongside a physical barrier, a wall, changes to asylum laws, all of this in the Trump administration

00:02:54.620 had dramatically reduced illegal immigration.

00:02:57.740 And now we have the highest number of border migrant illegal alien encounters in America's

00:03:05.400 history.

00:03:06.020 And we have the lowest number of deportations.

00:03:09.960 Just a few moments ago, I questioned Homeland Security Secretary Ali Mayorkas on these matters.

00:03:15.440 Take a listen.

00:03:18.260 One million people are undetained, free, roaming about the country.

00:03:24.160 They've gone before a judge.

00:03:26.960 A judge has issued a final order of removal.

00:03:31.300 How many ICE agents do you need to deport them?

00:03:35.940 Congressman, I think what we need is legislation to fix a broken immigration system.

00:03:42.020 We don't need legislation to overcome a final order of removal, right?

00:03:46.020 Look, I get it.

00:03:47.020 You want comprehensive immigration reform and a big amnesty thing.

00:03:49.800 Very unlikely that's going to happen.

00:03:51.180 So we have to operate under the laws that exist now.

00:03:53.340 So under the laws that exist now, a judge has told 1.2 million people that they have

00:04:00.260 no right to be here.

00:04:01.840 Do you plan to remove those 1.2 million people?

00:04:05.040 Congressman, with the resources we have, and I would appreciate the opportunity to answer

00:04:09.380 your question fully.

00:04:10.900 With the resources we have, we have to allocate those resources.

00:04:15.440 How much money do you need to deport all of them?

00:04:17.860 How much money?

00:04:18.600 How many agents?

00:04:19.640 To deport the 1.2 million who a judge has said has no right to be here.

00:04:26.280 Congressman, there are a number of questions that your question raises with respect to

00:04:32.260 whether all of those individuals actually have been given due process.

00:04:36.740 No, no, no.

00:04:37.240 They have.

00:04:37.780 These are the people who've had the due process, okay?

00:04:39.940 And here's the point.

00:04:41.240 You have no plan to remove them.

00:04:42.820 You don't know how many ICE agents it would take, and you don't know how much money it

00:04:45.720 would take because you actually don't want to remove them.

00:04:48.180 That's why you issued the September 30th guidance that says, well, you know, if you

00:04:52.260 haven't committed a crime and you just came to our country illegally, we're not going to 1.00

00:04:55.260 remove you.

00:04:55.780 Isn't that your position?

00:04:57.180 No, it isn't, Congressman.

00:04:58.520 Not at all.

00:04:59.140 Then what is your plan to remove the 1.2 million?

00:05:02.120 Let me, if I may.

00:05:03.680 Do you have one?

00:05:04.560 Yes, we do.

00:05:05.480 If I may, Congressman, as a former prosecutor, let me ask you a question.

00:05:09.940 If one has a finite amount of resources and one has a finite number of hours, and one

00:05:17.320 has a choice of removing 20 shoplifters or three fugitive armed bank robbers, how would

00:05:25.420 you spend your time?

00:05:26.620 I know how you've spent yours.

00:05:27.940 I know how you've spent yours by decreasing by 48% the number of criminals you arrest,

00:05:33.800 by deporting 63% fewer convicted criminals.

00:05:36.940 You have the lowest deportation rate in the history of the department, right?

00:05:42.580 Your data that you cite is misleading.

00:05:44.820 No, it's your data.

00:05:46.020 This is actually what your own agency is reporting.

00:05:49.180 So do you think that it just might be the case that one reason that we will encounter

00:05:54.140 the highest number of illegal immigrations in our nation's history, this month and next

00:05:59.640 month, because everybody knows that even if they come here, even if they go through

00:06:04.660 the removal procedures, even if a judge issues a final order, you still think there might

00:06:09.120 be more due process and you have no plan to remove them.

00:06:12.180 And then when I ask you what the plan is, you say, oh, well, resources, I got to make

00:06:15.280 finite decisions.

00:06:16.260 I go back to my first question.

00:06:18.280 How many ICE agents to remove the 1.2 million?

00:06:20.860 Congressman, I'd be pleased to provide you with a resourcing data subsequent to this

00:06:27.060 hearing, if I may.

00:06:28.140 And I think it's telling that you got plans for pronouns and you got plans for misinformation.

00:06:34.640 But when it comes to the plan to remove the people that have had due process, you don't

00:06:39.440 have one at all.

00:06:40.160 Now, 800,000 people have encountered your CBP agents and those folks have been released

00:06:45.460 into the country.

00:06:46.940 Like some of those people are going to commit crimes, aren't they?

00:06:49.000 Congressman, may I have a moment to answer your questions?

00:06:54.080 Will some of the 800,000 commit crimes, yes or no?

00:06:57.620 Undoubtedly.

00:06:58.540 Undoubtedly.

00:06:59.100 And so the Americans who are the victims of the crimes for the people that you release

00:07:04.320 in the country are collateral damage that you are willing to accept in order to have

00:07:09.520 our border function as a turnstile.

00:07:11.660 And you're willing to accept that collateral damage.

00:07:13.780 Congressman, I couldn't disagree with you more.

00:07:15.660 Let me give you, if I can, some data that will actually...

00:07:20.000 More than the data.

00:07:20.980 How about this?

00:07:21.540 How did it feel to you when you went to the border and the Border Patrol agents turned their

00:07:26.620 back on you?

00:07:27.780 One Border Patrol agent turned his back on me and I addressed that as the leader of the

00:07:34.060 Department of Homeland Security.

00:07:35.260 So if I can return to data because I want to make sure that you have accurate information.

00:07:41.580 Everyone knows that you have more people coming in than ever and you're removing fewer people

00:07:46.020 than ever and it's because you have no plan and because it's on purpose.

00:07:49.700 See, I don't buy the theory that you don't know how to do this.

00:07:52.440 I think you're actually a highly competent dude.

00:07:54.360 But the reality is your plan is to bring these people in and to send the message to the smugglers

00:08:00.540 and the criminals that they will never have to leave.

00:08:03.360 That's why your workforce turns their back on you.

00:08:05.600 And you have tools that you could use to deport these people.

00:08:08.620 You have facial recognition.

00:08:10.180 You have flights going all over the country dropping people off.

00:08:12.980 And I think we ought to use the best tools in the country to find these folks, round them

00:08:17.460 up like they were at the Capitol on January 6th and deport every last one of them.

00:08:21.020 I yield back.

00:08:21.800 Gentleman yields back.

00:08:22.940 Ms. Bass.

00:08:23.820 Congressman, may I have a moment to answer a question?

00:08:28.680 No, he didn't ask the question.

00:08:31.900 So we're back live here at the Capitol simulcasting and you can see there the crisis at the border

00:08:38.280 is not the result of an accident.

00:08:41.140 It's not the result of neglect.

00:08:43.360 This is a purposeful effort to do damage and harm to our country.

00:08:47.900 And if our nation's sovereignty is degraded, if there are people who are victims of crimes,

00:08:54.520 that's acceptable collateral damage for the Biden administration.

00:08:59.720 It's sickening and unpatriotic.

00:09:02.600 And it bears a sharp contrast to the patriotism that we see from our uniformed military.

00:09:09.000 I represent Florida's first congressional district.

00:09:10.800 We have the highest concentration of active duty military in the country.

00:09:15.600 And at a recent event in my district, I had a number of military members come up to me

00:09:19.840 and express their frustration that the Department of Defense is just abandoning its own set of

00:09:28.060 policies, its own requirements for review of exemptions to vaccines, and they're doing

00:09:33.940 all of it for control.

00:09:35.460 It is a purposeful Biden purge of our military.

00:09:40.920 Three great heroes coming up, two from the United States Air Force, one from the United States Army.

00:09:45.620 I hope you enjoy the conversation.

00:09:47.760 Take a listen.

00:09:50.000 We're joined today by three of America's best, Air Force Captain Jordan Carr, Air Force Master Sergeant Nick Cupper,

00:09:56.980 and Army Major Sam Sigiloff.

00:09:59.080 And I'll start with you, Major.

00:10:01.960 How has your medical career progressed in the Army?

00:10:05.680 Talk about the nine years you've spent in just part of the administration of health care in the Army.

00:10:12.380 Well, first I want to say that any of you that I express is solely my own.

00:10:17.260 It is not held by the government, not by DOD, nor the Department of the Army.

00:10:21.200 I am currently on leave, and my PAO officer is aware, and this disclaimer goes for all of us.

00:10:27.260 So I've been in the Army for about nine years now.

00:10:30.120 I did ROTC in college.

00:10:32.500 I did HPSP scholarship, which is to pay for medical school.

00:10:35.580 Then I went to residency at Fort Benning, and I completed a family medicine residency there.

00:10:40.660 And I was stationed in a couple places, went to Alaska, and that's when COVID kind of exploded all around us.

00:10:46.700 And I was the only doctor that volunteered to go out into the COVID tent, if you will, the COVID clinic.

00:10:52.360 And for a month and a half of being out in that clinic, I did not diagnose a single case of COVID.

00:10:58.240 And are you able to practice medicine now in the Army?

00:11:01.140 No, so that leads me to where I am stationed now.

00:11:03.180 I went to Fort Huachuca to be the medical director.

00:11:05.640 I was their first pick, and they were my first pick.

00:11:08.020 And then after a month of work, I was suspended for granting medical exemptions to soldiers who do not want to get the shot.

00:11:14.240 So since September 13th, I have not been in medical practice, and I'm in threat of losing my license in Texas.

00:11:22.760 Also at this institution, ivermectin has been banned for off-label use.

00:11:30.040 And it was not a medical doctor and not someone licensed to practice medicine.

00:11:34.400 So this person that did this is practicing medicine without a license.

00:11:38.060 Well, America is certainly not stronger when people who are engaged in the provision of care to our service members are in any way treated unfairly.

00:11:48.780 And let me go now to you, Captain Carr.

00:11:51.360 Talk to us a little bit about your service for the United States Air Force.

00:11:55.460 Yeah, so I've been in the United States Air Force for about nine years now.

00:11:59.120 I come from a family of patriots.

00:12:00.740 Every single family member generation has served in some capacity in armed forces.

00:12:06.520 My sister is a Space Force officer who's going through the same process that I am.

00:12:11.440 I've been deployed overseas.

00:12:13.800 I've had a lot of amazing opportunities in my career.

00:12:17.640 And, you know, this is unprecedented what's going on.

00:12:21.680 And I could spend all day talking about myself, but I really don't want to do that.

00:12:24.540 I want to talk about testimony that other service members are going through.

00:12:28.320 The most disheartening aspect of all this is the junior enlisted.

00:12:32.580 You know, they're the backbone of our forces and the stuff that they are going through.

00:12:37.280 Same with our cadets at our military academies.

00:12:39.540 What they're going through, they feel very alone and they feel isolated.

00:12:44.560 And, you know, part of the reason that we're here is to show them that they're not alone,

00:12:48.400 that there are things that can be done that the American people can do on our behalf.

00:12:52.320 And thank you for giving us this opportunity to share that.

00:12:54.800 What's been your observation of how some of these mandates have impacted morale in the fighting force?

00:13:02.660 Yeah, so morale is very low.

00:13:04.760 Again, like Sam said, these views are my own, not that of the Department of Defense,

00:13:09.060 which I think is pretty clear since all three of us are plaintiffs in a lawsuit.

00:13:13.380 The morale is very low.

00:13:15.220 The people who got the shot maybe didn't want it or maybe didn't know that the mandates being passed down were unlawful.

00:13:22.620 They're seeing it now, too.

00:13:25.060 I've heard testimony from service members who got the shot and they don't want to reenlist.

00:13:30.140 They're feeling it across the force.

00:13:31.860 I have friends that have been grounded from flying.

00:13:33.940 They're fully capable.

00:13:35.200 They are able.

00:13:36.640 They're trained.

00:13:37.820 The taxpayers pay them to fly.

00:13:39.580 They're not allowed to fly because they're unvaccinated.

00:13:42.060 And the irony here is they've actually had to fly for vaccinated members who have had to call out sick.

00:13:47.880 And so it's, you know, members are feeling it across the force.

00:13:50.760 Let's bring in Master Sergeant Nick Cupper.

00:13:55.260 You know, Master Sergeant, one of the things that concerned me in an investigation that my office ran into the United States Navy

00:14:01.500 is that when people submitted requests for religious accommodations, they were often met in response by a form letter,

00:14:09.360 which to me indicated that an individual review of people's claim, how this decision was grounded in faith or scripture, wasn't really made.

00:14:21.140 Do you have any observations about the process of requesting a religious accommodation and how the Air Force looks at those?

00:14:29.880 Yes, Congressman, thank you.

00:14:33.380 I've seen hundreds of denied religious accommodation requests to include denied appeal requests.

00:14:40.080 I've seen a handful of the approved ones, and all of them start with the premise that the government has such a strong interest in vaccinating us

00:14:49.760 that while they determine all of our religious beliefs are to be sincerely held,

00:14:55.460 they determine that even as strongly as our beliefs are, they're not as strong as the government's desire and need to vaccinate all of us.

00:15:02.860 Even in situations such as my own, where I currently have no restrictions on me as an unvaccinated member at my location,

00:15:10.580 I don't have to wear a mask, I don't have to weekly test, I don't have to do any social distancing.

00:15:16.220 My life at my job is the exact same as any vaccinated members, and I'm not unique in that scenario right now. 0.99

00:15:23.140 But the only approvals they've been doing that I've been able to see and that court documents have shown

00:15:28.060 are for people who are already on terminal leave, already in their final months, where they won't return to a base.

00:15:34.300 In fact, the approval specifically says that they are only approving it because they will not return to a base.

00:15:40.320 If the member's not returning to their duty station ever, that's not an accommodation.

00:15:43.540 They're accommodating nothing.

00:15:45.440 I'm here talking with three service members, active duty in the United States military,

00:15:49.660 who are dealing with the realities of vaccine mandates.

00:15:53.060 And, you know, one thing that we've got to be really concerned about in the Congress and on the Armed Services Committee

00:15:59.500 is whether or not these mandates affect readiness and our ability to do certain things.

00:16:05.000 And I believe it was Captain Carr who said, you know, that she had observed circumstances

00:16:09.780 where there were impacts from some of the changes in the fighting force as a result of these mandates.

00:16:17.360 Is there any advice that the three of you would give a member of Congress about how mandates affect readiness specifically?

00:16:25.520 So if we're talking about readiness, I feel like I've got a pretty strong grasp on that one.

00:16:30.500 And that's actually the main reason for all the denials of the religious accommodations is we need a ready force.

00:16:36.440 And they're absolutely right as far as we do need a ready force.

00:16:39.020 That's the whole point of our military, to be ready for anything that might come our way.

00:16:42.300 However, according to the DOD's own numbers that are released publicly, to date, we've only lost 95 service members due to COVID.

00:16:50.580 Now, every single death is a very sad, tragic loss.

00:16:54.780 But if we're looking at it from a logical perspective, we've lost 95.

00:16:58.200 At the same time, we've already kicked out over 3,200 service members for not taking the COVID vaccine.

00:17:04.460 So if readiness is really the issue, 95 versus 3,200 is a significant difference.

00:17:11.480 And from my perspective, and I don't speak for the DOD, but from my perspective, I'd say 3,200 is the bigger readiness issue with thousands more behind them.

00:17:19.740 Sir, if I can jump in, the irony there, too, is in the Air Force, you know, we were given a pathway to voluntarily separate.

00:17:30.000 Well, a lot of members are finding that when you submit a voluntary separation application, they're coming back denied, saying that we can't lose you.

00:17:38.040 You're too important to us.

00:17:39.780 And they're instead forcing them through the discharge process, and they're getting rid of them anyway.

00:17:44.440 So which is it?

00:17:45.860 Can you not stand to lose us, or are you going to try and force us out anyway?

00:17:48.480 Well, I believe that we ought to require a review of how these mandates have affected readiness.

00:17:54.800 And it's my belief, though I would never want to prejudge any outcome, that driving people out of the military doesn't make our force stronger.

00:18:02.780 It makes our force weaker.

00:18:04.840 Major Sigilov, one of the things that an investigation I conducted into some activities at West Point showed that when people were resistant to some of the desires of DOD,

00:18:17.740 that there was a tremendous amount of retaliation against service members.

00:18:22.160 Are you aware of any circumstance where, because of a view someone's held or because of someone performing their duties for DOD, that they were retaliated against?

00:18:32.380 Yes, and I want to make it clear that this is protected communication right now.

00:18:38.000 And I am personally being retaliated against.

00:18:40.460 I tried to commit felony crimes to CID, and my present for reporting those crimes was getting a negative counseling statement, where I had to write about Article 94.

00:18:54.680 And Article 94 is mutiny and sedition with a max penalty of death.

00:18:58.200 That is very threatening to me, and that's the very fact of writing an Article 9 or any sort of negative counseling statement against me for trying to report a crime is also a crime under UCMJ.

00:19:10.740 And the man that did that carries a longer than four-inch blade knife everywhere he goes on post in the hospital, in the clinic, which is also a felony.

00:19:22.320 There is a nurse in the building that put in a 15-6 commander's investigation, she put my HIPAA information in her sworn statement. 1.00

00:19:31.460 There is another nurse in the building that put an overheard, privileged, patient-physician conversation into a sworn statement. 1.00

00:19:43.460 She was in another room and heard me talking on the phone and put that in a sworn statement against me. 1.00

00:19:49.460 There is an unbelievable amount of retaliation happening.

00:19:54.060 I recently had some of my charts in Alaska opened up to see if I was guilty of malpractice.

00:20:00.700 They found I was guilty of malpractice.

00:20:02.960 And these are people that haven't liked me for a long time because my thoughts and ideas have not changed.

00:20:08.100 They've been pretty stable ever since the start of this in regards to the shot.

00:20:13.000 If you don't want to get it, don't get it.

00:20:14.880 If you want to get it, fine, go ahead.

00:20:16.920 But they've opened up my charts, and they've claimed that I'm guilty of malpractice.

00:20:21.500 And now they have also suspended me and put a hit against my license, which will go to Texas.

00:20:26.680 That sounds like some of the most intense and severe tools that the medical profession has to bring against anyone.

00:20:36.740 You know, Captain, I wanted to go to you and ask, there is a dynamic that plays out sometimes here in Washington where the military leaders come forward and they say,

00:20:44.540 well, the rate, the number, the percentage of people being vaccinated is increasing.

00:20:50.160 So what we're doing is working.

00:20:52.180 Are you aware of any circumstance or are you concerned about the way people are coerced into taking the vaccine up against this mandate?

00:21:01.380 And if you are, how does that coercion manifest?

00:21:05.320 Yes, sir.

00:21:05.640 Absolutely.

00:21:06.040 So actually, what got me first interested in all of this was, you mentioned West Point cadets.

00:21:11.800 I know Hannah McDonald. 0.98

00:21:13.020 I know Nikala Sampson.

00:21:15.260 They were one of the first, you know, cadets at West Point to come out and say, I'm not doing this.

00:21:20.500 Like, this is religious discrimination.

00:21:22.320 What happened to them and their testimony?

00:21:23.920 It's been published in multiple articles across the mainstream.

00:21:27.220 But what happened to them was the first situation occurring, and this was pre-mandate.

00:21:32.200 Once the mandates were implemented across the DOD, we started to see the coercion, the abuse happening across services.

00:21:40.340 I know personally one security forces airman at Pearl Bird.

00:21:44.560 She's already discharged.

00:21:46.060 She was encouraged not to appeal for religious exemption.

00:21:52.300 So she didn't appeal.

00:21:54.040 Instead, her chain of command encouraged her to apply for voluntary separation.

00:21:57.440 They said, if you apply for voluntary separation, you're likely to get an honorable discharge.

00:22:02.440 So she listened to her chain of command.

00:22:04.020 She applied for voluntary separation.

00:22:05.820 Her chain of command, the same one that was encouraging her to do this, denied her voluntary separation.

00:22:11.420 And instead, started racking up adverse paperwork against her, issued her with an Article 15. 0.95

00:22:16.860 She signed the Article 15.

00:22:18.820 She was threatened with jail time if she didn't sign it.

00:22:20.880 And she got a general discharge with a misconduct code characterization.

00:22:25.780 Her only crime or offense was not getting the COVID shot.

00:22:30.340 Why would any organization try to trick someone into a path regarding their career that would seemingly be a lose-lose for both the military and the service member?

00:22:42.380 I mean, are we looking at a purposeful purge, I guess, is what I'm trying to get at?

00:22:45.960 Or is this a mishandling of policy?

00:22:48.460 Something very concerning to me is, if you are a believer and you are listening to this podcast, you need to understand that God-fearing service members are being intentionally purged from the services.

00:23:01.160 And when I became a plaintiff in the lawsuit that we're in, initially, I did not feel that I should be forced to apply for religious exemption.

00:23:09.140 And there are many service members in my situation who felt the same way, because we did not, and we still don't believe, that there is a legal mandate, that there is an FDA-approved vaccine.

00:23:21.900 But the blessings that have come through this is that our religious convictions are much stronger, because we've seen through the Liberty Council lawsuits that this is a religious purge.

00:23:31.440 That the people who are being discriminated against hold religious convictions and are people of faith.

00:23:37.920 Yeah. Major, did you have something to add to that?

00:23:40.700 It's a purposeful purge.

00:23:42.580 Anyone who would disobey an unlawful order is being purged out of the military.

00:23:48.120 And there is a shadow policy in place that is protecting all of these people enforcing the shadow policy.

00:23:55.540 We've all put in IG complaints, and they've all fallen on deaf ears.

00:23:59.120 And I have evidence that what's going on where I am is directly against Secretary of Defense policy, which is also, Secretary of Defense policy is also in line with the law that's been in place since 2003.

00:24:09.280 And I have been suspended, and there's been no repercussions.

00:24:13.980 I'm Congressman Matt Gaetz here, joined by three active duty members of our military sharing their observations and experiences with the vaccine mandate.

00:24:22.080 And, you know, Master Sergeant Kupfer, one of the oversight responsibilities of Congress is to ensure that our laws are being faithfully executed,

00:24:31.400 and that we're responsive to conditions as they exist in the world.

00:24:35.080 And when the coronavirus vaccine mandate was announced by Secretary Austin, we had a number of statements from members of Congress regarding their reaction to that.

00:24:47.000 And really, you know, while no one here speaks for the DOD, you're all expressing your First Amendment right to petition your government, and I'm a government official.

00:24:54.220 I want to really understand from you what you expect of your representatives and lawmakers in the face of this decision by DOD.

00:25:04.280 What should the Congress be doing to be doing right by the men and women who wear the uniform?

00:25:10.420 Well, Congressman, what I would like to see, and I think I could probably speak for my two partners here,

00:25:17.480 is I would like to see Congress and the government hold the DOD accountable to the law.

00:25:22.840 The law states that any emergency use product, whether it be a vaccine, a test, or otherwise, cannot be mandated to any service member without letting the service member know you have the right to refuse it.

00:25:36.940 Unfortunately, and I don't want to suppose malicious intent or anything, but the fact on the ground is,

00:25:43.780 there has been no FDA-approved vaccine available to service members since the beginning of the mandate.

00:25:51.820 Now, the Secretary of Defense's memo specifically says that we will only be mandated to take fully approved, fully licensed, and labeled vaccines.

00:26:00.060 At the time, the memo, Comirnaty was the only one.

00:26:02.720 Now you have spike facts as an approved one.

00:26:04.520 The problem is, and we have ample evidence, recordings from Pfizer, recordings from the FDA, documents from the CDC,

00:26:12.760 that all say Comirnaty has not been shipped.

00:26:16.060 No one has it.

00:26:17.280 Spike facts has not been shipped. 0.71

00:26:18.860 Nobody has it.

00:26:20.180 I mean, my base specifically, I have multiple email correspondence over months where my base immunologist agrees we only have emergency use vaccine.

00:26:28.320 So, whether it's malicious intent or not, every single service member since the day of the mandate who has been mandated to take a vaccine

00:26:35.720 has been illegally mandated to take an emergency use vaccine.

00:26:39.100 And it's all predicated upon one memo written by Dr. Terry Adarim.

00:26:44.020 That memo mistakes what the FDA says about an interchangeability between the emergency use vaccine and the fully approved vaccine.

00:26:52.100 The FDA was attempting to say it's only medically interchangeable, but they had a footnote that specifically pointed out that they were two legally distinct vaccines with certain differences.

00:27:04.320 This memo written by Dr. Terry Adarim says that those two vaccines, the emergency use and the fully approved one,

00:27:10.940 because the DOD knew they didn't have the approved one on hand,

00:27:14.120 she said in there that they will be used both interchangeably to meet the mandate.

00:27:18.840 And every doctor, every commander has been going off of that.

00:27:23.240 And so, every time we file an IG complaint or we complain up to our commander,

00:27:27.340 and you can't blame our commander, they're low level.

00:27:29.660 You know, they don't control the entire DOD.

00:27:31.520 They're just doing what they're told, and I understand that.

00:27:34.220 But when we complain up, everyone gets referred to that one memo that is an unlawful order in and of itself.

00:27:40.060 If for no other reason than the fact that that order takes into account in no way that the fact that these vials of vaccine are not labeled appropriately as the Secretary of Defense has required.

00:27:51.800 So, Dr. Terry Adarim's memo that she wrote is unlawful.

00:27:56.760 And I believe they knew that because they routed another memo a few weeks later for signature that they ended up not signing.

00:28:03.720 Mr. Gilbert Cisneros was requested to sign it.

00:28:06.960 It would have effectively just said, hey, we have to follow the law.

00:28:09.940 If there's an emergency use vaccine and the member wants to take a fully approved one, you have to allow them before you punish them.

00:28:14.820 And what ended up happening is all the services got their chance to comment on whether they thought that should exist or not.

00:28:22.260 And in the Air Force's comments specifically, they effectively said, we've already been discharging people.

00:28:27.480 We've already been punishing people under the auspices that this was legal.

00:28:31.440 If we have to now have this new memo that proves that what we did was illegal, it's going to cause a lot of headache.

00:28:37.520 We recommend you not sign the memo.

00:28:38.900 And almost to a person, the folks I know in military service are quite versed on regulations.

00:28:45.380 That's why a lot of people excel in the military is the ability to understand, adhere to regulations,

00:28:50.660 to be able to perform the functions that our nation requires the same way each and every time with a great degree of confidence.

00:28:59.840 We are right now in the process of having the hearings that establish the National Defense Authorization Act.

00:29:06.400 And as a member of the Armed Services Committee, I will be introducing amendments to the National Defense Authorization Act

00:29:12.380 to ban any mandate for experimental vaccines for the COVID-19 vaccine as it currently applies to the military.

00:29:21.340 And I will also be filing an amendment to restore, to rank and pay anyone who was forced to leave the military

00:29:28.940 or coerced to leave the military as a consequence of these vaccines.

00:29:33.160 That's the good news.

00:29:33.960 The bad news is that if the vote were held on those amendments today, it would fail.

00:29:39.940 It would fail because the majority party would oppose it and even some in my party would oppose it.

00:29:44.820 And so I want to get your advice in this section of our interview about how you would go about persuading someone

00:29:51.260 who believes in these mandates maybe to reflect on some of the insights that you've shared.

00:29:57.180 And I'm going to present to you, this is an August 9, 2021 statement from United States Representative Mike Rogers of Alabama,

00:30:05.240 who's the ranking member of the Armed Services Committee.

00:30:07.840 And he says, in part, today, Secretary Austin announced plans to require all members of the military to be vaccinated against COVID-19 starting in mid-September

00:30:18.160 or upon licensure by the Food and Drug Administration, whichever comes first.

00:30:23.980 He continues, vaccines protect our men and women, many of whom live in cramped and crowded conditions from the spread of disease while at home or deployed across the globe.

00:30:36.540 Our adversaries will take advantage of everything they can over us.

00:30:40.660 We must not allow COVID-19 to be a hindrance of our force.

00:30:44.520 Secretary Austin earlier confirmed that as of mid-July, over 70% of active-duty troops had received at least one vaccine shot.

00:30:53.800 That is encouraging news, and I hope that number reaches 100% quickly.

00:30:59.780 I also want to encourage President Biden to work with the FDA to approve the vaccine as soon as it's safe to do so.

00:31:06.340 Who wants to go first?

00:31:07.300 What argument would you present to Congressman Rogers to sway his view that anything less than 100% vaccination rate is not acceptable?

00:31:17.100 May I start?

00:31:18.160 Go right ahead.

00:31:19.060 So I'm going to be publishing an episode on Sunday, May 1st, on After Hours with Dr. Sigloff.

00:31:25.600 I encourage everyone to listen to it because I think I just recently learned this, and I've heard this recently,

00:31:30.260 that, you know, you want to give the right treatment for the right disease, and so if you have a broken arm,

00:31:36.460 I'm not going to give you an injection to help with, you know, some infection you may never get.

00:31:42.940 And so I say that to say, listen to that podcast.

00:31:48.020 I don't 100% believe that this is a virus.

00:31:51.740 I think this is a poisoning that's going on, and it sounds insane,

00:31:55.540 but it's the only thing that brings all of the unrelated medical issues together,

00:32:00.400 like how can two people in one household, like my parents that lives off a well,

00:32:06.820 my dad gets sick and my mom didn't.

00:32:08.400 It's supposed to be this horribly contagious disease.

00:32:10.520 How do smokers get less disease than non-smokers?

00:32:14.220 It's supposed to be a respiratory illness.

00:32:16.380 Well, if nicotine blocks the poison from working, then that's how it helps keep you from becoming ill,

00:32:22.460 and I'm not encouraging anyone to smoke, but there may be use for nicotine in a patch or a gum.

00:32:29.120 And so if we're being poisoned, and let's say the shots are hurting people, which we know they are,

00:32:36.060 then yes, we want to keep our adversaries from taking advantage of the U.S.,

00:32:39.660 and the way we do that is we don't do what our adversaries want us to do,

00:32:43.000 and they want us to inject our soldiers so that we don't have an effective fighting force,

00:32:47.040 because we will not have an effective fighting force.

00:32:48.920 If we kick out, let's say, 3,000 people, and we can't work with those few people,

00:32:54.600 how more or less will we be able to work if 5% are non-combat effective, or more realistic, maybe 50%?

00:33:01.400 Right now there's about 80, there's an article about 80 dead soldiers from Fort Bragg.

00:33:07.740 80 in the past year, two years?

00:33:09.880 That's an insane amount of number of dead soldiers.

00:33:12.780 That's unusual.

00:33:13.860 That needs to be investigated.

00:33:14.740 So we need to take a pause on an unaffected treatment that has negative efficacy,

00:33:20.620 meaning you're more likely to get infected if it is indeed an infection and not a poisoning,

00:33:25.000 which it seems like it is, because all the things that work for this particular type of poisoning seem to help people.

00:33:32.820 Captain Carr, what would you say to a member of Congress who held that view that I expressed?

00:33:37.100 From a national security standpoint, we stand to lose upwards of half a million military members because of these mandates.

00:33:44.980 That's total force.

00:33:46.400 There's only a couple million service members serving right now.

00:33:49.580 So from a national security standpoint, I think it is very important.

00:33:53.460 Also, these COVID shots are not safe, nor are they effective.

00:33:57.620 Members who have gotten the vaccine have many issues.

00:34:01.100 They're scared to report them.

00:34:02.220 And from a safety and efficacy standpoint, I know Nick can speak personally on this.

00:34:08.480 He is basically Superman.

00:34:10.220 He has so many antibodies, and that's not being considered.

00:34:13.800 And he has an exemption because of his antibodies for almost every single vaccine in the military.

00:34:20.020 Captain Carr is absolutely right.

00:34:21.380 As far as in the past, I've gotten natural mute exemptions to every single shot that I'm required to take with the exception of the flu.

00:34:28.840 I understand the flu changes.

00:34:30.140 I get that.

00:34:30.720 But the data that's available for COVID, you know, it shows unequivocally, with the exception of a very small study out of Kentucky that the CDC posted with maybe 235 participants,

00:34:43.360 it shows unequivocally that natural immunity, especially if you can prove you actually have it, is better than the shot alone.

00:34:49.460 I mean, even today, we just learned that Vice President Harris got COVID only 25 days after her fourth shot.

00:34:55.640 That doesn't seem like a very effective vaccine to me.

00:34:57.980 But if you look at the numbers of this, and I'm not sure if you're aware or not, but Walgreens, you know, they're one of the biggest vaccinators we have in this country.

00:35:07.240 You know, there's Walgreens on every corner.

00:35:08.560 They actually have a website where they list all the positive cases by percent based on how many shots a person has, whether it's zero shots, one, two, three, whatever.

00:35:19.240 If you look at their data, and it's up-to-date data, you're seeing that the positivity rate for the unvaccinated member is far lower than anyone else.

00:35:28.400 One shot, two shot, three shots, doesn't matter.

00:35:30.180 Which, that directly speaks to natural immunity, because at this point, there are very few people in our country, or in the world for that matter, that haven't already had COVID.

00:35:39.220 Me specifically, I've gone and taken eight different antibody tests now, and the most recent one I just took was last week, 15 months after I had infection, and I'm still reading off the chart on the test.

00:35:49.860 My base immunologist even wrote me a letter of endorsement for my appeal, stating that I am immunized.

00:35:57.100 And what we're going to have here is we have an all-or-none solution, which is not the right solution.

00:36:03.700 So, if I were to talk to another member of Congress, if I were going to try to convince them, first off, I would come to them with compassion.

00:36:10.320 I wouldn't come to them from a stance of anger or a stance of sadness.

00:36:14.500 I'm a very logical person.

00:36:16.060 I would come with the numbers.

00:36:16.980 I would come with an understanding that, look, I get it.

00:36:20.480 We wanted these shots to be a miracle cure.

00:36:23.540 And, you know, everyone was looking for some hope.

00:36:26.460 They've clung to it.

00:36:27.680 Unfortunately, this isn't a miracle cure everyone looked for.

00:36:31.220 And with the variants changing, with the waning efficacy and everything else, and, I mean, just the myriad of data, it's clearly not the cure it was.

00:36:40.200 If you look at the Air Force alone, from the date the mandate started until today, the Air Force has seen a 400% increase in COVID deaths, whereas the United States, as a general population, has only seen a 58% increase in COVID deaths.

00:36:54.940 But at the same point, the Air Force's vaccination rate has increased by 73%, whereas the U.S. has only increased by 24%.

00:37:01.500 How on earth is that possible?

00:37:03.540 And when you look at the DOD as a whole, you see the same similar thing.

00:37:06.720 You see a 179% increase in deaths over that same time frame.

00:37:10.360 Why is it that with a younger, healthier, more vaccinated force, we're seeing more COVID deaths per capita than the United States is seeing with a much older, unhealthier, less vaccinated population?

00:37:21.720 One thing I worry about is that the data would be unpersuasive to people who are motivated by corrupt purposes.

00:37:29.960 And frankly, I see a little too much of that in Washington, D.C. when it comes to the influence of big pharma.

00:37:36.080 You know, big pharma has multiple lobbyists for every member of Congress.

00:37:40.780 They shell out millions of dollars in campaign donations to people.

00:37:45.620 And then you have oftentimes a revolving door between a lot of these public health entities and big pharmaceutical companies.

00:37:53.600 I mean, you know, I've seen in the military at times a concerning revolving door between senior leaders in the military and defense contractors.

00:38:02.140 And at times, you know, that's where Congress plays an important role to make sure that conflicts of interest and bias doesn't in any way impact decision making in a bad way.

00:38:13.000 And what I have to report to the three of you is that I think that people don't want to hear it on the data because, you know what, big pharma just loves the idea of having everyone forced to utilize their product.

00:38:25.980 I mean, who wouldn't want to live in a world where the government was forcing you to utilize your product?

00:38:30.200 And so as strong as I think that that appeal may be, Nick, I think there also has to be an appeal with service members about like these are our bravest patriots.

00:38:39.920 We have a volunteer fighting force, you know, the best of the best volunteer for our military and are willing to go anywhere and do anything and fight everyone and accept any mission on behalf of the rest of us.

00:38:51.200 And so if you if you retaliate against those people, if you improperly coerce them, if you try to hem them in against regulations, it creates a far broader problem.

00:39:02.180 I mean, you know, all of you have made the decision to serve in our military.

00:39:05.320 Are there any of your family members who are concerned about your careers and the opportunity that you have to make a patriotic contribution based on these mandates?

00:39:14.220 How do they think about this?

00:39:16.440 I know. So I believe I'm the closest one in this group here to retirement.

00:39:20.960 I can retire next year so long as I'm not kicked out in the meantime.

00:39:24.860 And I mean, you know, I'm a grown now.

00:39:27.580 So my mom, my dad, they're very worried for my career.

00:39:31.180 They're very worried for the nearly 20 years I put in and that it may all go to waste.

00:39:35.540 You know, they're also very worried about me being forced to take an experimental vaccine.

00:39:39.380 You know, they don't they don't want to see that.

00:39:41.760 And I used to recruit for years.

00:39:43.600 And I can tell you there is just a report that came out that shows that for the Air Force alone, their population that wants to join, they've lost 50 percent already.

00:39:53.360 People are not wanting to join anymore.

00:39:55.540 And honestly, if it's my own kids, I'm not going to suggest they join.

00:39:58.640 In fact, I'm going to do whatever I can to dissuade them.

00:40:00.960 Now, in my career, up until this point, things have been relatively fine.

00:40:05.660 I mean, you have an issue here, there that you discuss with your command. 0.95

00:40:08.160 You know, once and again, and you get it resolved or maybe you think something's stupid and that's, you know, just water cooler talk. 0.95

00:40:15.240 Never in my career. 0.94

00:40:16.360 And like I said, this has been nearly 20 years.

00:40:18.600 Never once has there been something that I have been this passionate about because I realize how wrong it is.

00:40:24.520 I mean, I would not put my name to a lawsuit.

00:40:26.780 I would not buck against this if it were not that serious.

00:40:29.980 I'm literally putting my entire career on the line here.

00:40:32.760 I've got a family of four children and my wife.

00:40:35.500 Like, one child is adopted and disabled from Armenia.

00:40:38.700 If I don't get this retirement, I lose my medical.

00:40:41.380 You know, this is something I've worked my entire life for.

00:40:44.340 But I know what's right.

00:40:46.140 I know what's wrong.

00:40:47.540 And I'm willing to put it all on the line to do what is right.

00:40:50.920 And I've tried to make that extremely clear to my leaders that, look, if a person like me is willing to put everything on the line, you might want to listen to me.

00:40:58.860 I might not be crazy.

00:41:00.800 Amen to that.

00:41:02.300 Absolutely.

00:41:03.660 Captain, do you have something to add to that about just how family and loved ones, you know, look at this dynamic that our service members are put into?

00:41:10.200 Yes, sir.

00:41:11.780 So, like I said before, I come from a family of service members.

00:41:14.880 We honestly can't believe what's going on.

00:41:16.960 I feel more concerned for the junior enlisted, the members who were coerced or tricked into getting this shot that is not an approved shot.

00:41:25.720 And they did it because, like Nick, they have family to consider, you know, their lifestyle.

00:41:30.680 I actually, there's a tech sergeant who just joined a lawsuit.

00:41:34.280 He couldn't even afford to pay the $500 for the lawsuit.

00:41:36.680 And so a couple officers helped him because, you know, he's concerned about supporting his family.

00:41:41.880 There's a Navy chaplain.

00:41:43.640 I have his testimony right here, actually.

00:41:46.560 He's 16 years in service.

00:41:50.080 He was holed up in a hotel with his family of five and their dog, his pregnant wife, for seven months.

00:41:54.960 He had to shell out $21,000 of his own money because if you are not vaccinated, this occurred when the mandates were first implemented.

00:42:03.220 If you are not vaccinated, they declared that you could not PCS, and they were in the middle of PCSing.

00:42:08.300 So for seven months, he and his five family members with his pregnant wife and dog were in a hotel, and they had to shell out their own money for this.

00:42:16.420 He still hasn't gotten reimbursed.

00:42:17.620 And this is a Navy chaplain.

00:42:19.040 All three of you know these regs a great deal, and there is litigation that you've joined to resolve some of these issues.

00:42:27.960 And there are going to be a lot of folks from my district who are wearing the uniform, who have loved ones who are wearing the uniform, who are going to watch this,

00:42:34.640 and they're going to think the three of you have tremendous bravery, and they're going to want to know how they can connect with you,

00:42:40.720 how they can follow the progress of this litigation and any rulings that come out of it.

00:42:45.060 So how can people stay informed into the battle that you're waging?

00:42:50.640 So I don't have any social media, but there are groups that are out there.

00:42:54.140 So Terminal CWO on Telegram, Military Freedom Keepers on Telegram, Fight for Veterans with the number four on Telegram.

00:43:00.980 Those are ways that you can reach out to people.

00:43:02.660 There are service members helping each other through this process and putting out how to go through the religious exemption process,

00:43:10.540 how to go through the appeal process.

00:43:13.000 So those are good ways.

00:43:13.540 What about the litigation?

00:43:14.240 How can folks follow the litigation? 0.95

00:43:17.680 So with litigation, one of the biggest lawsuits, and this isn't ours, but Liberty Council has a couple different ones.

00:43:24.260 They have a pretty good Instagram, Twitter following if anyone wants to look up Liberty Council.

00:43:29.180 They really focus on their religious freedom.

00:43:31.640 Our particular case is Coker v. Austin.

00:43:34.480 And honestly, for that, it's really just a matter of you can look it up online and there's websites that allow you to, for free, look at the documentation.

00:43:43.040 We don't, we don't, we're not letting go to the council.

00:43:45.600 We don't have a big presence on media.

00:43:47.980 We're not trying to blast it out there necessarily.

00:43:50.580 But, you know, some of the, some of the sites, the terminal sites that Jordan was talking about, they are also on Instagram.

00:44:00.320 Terminal CWO, military freedom keepers.

00:44:02.860 And what they will do is they will kind of be a collective source for all these lawsuits.

00:44:06.880 And they will oftentimes post what's going on, what the, what the big updates are.

00:44:11.300 You know, little things don't really matter, but the big updates and give people hope.

00:44:14.820 You know, that's one of the biggest things with all of us, especially at the beginning of this.

00:44:20.080 A lot of these service members, they don't know there's anyone else standing with them.

00:44:23.740 They might be the only person in their unit and they don't know any better.

00:44:26.940 And they feel alone.

00:44:27.840 They feel scared.

00:44:28.860 I've honestly been extremely fearful with the steep rise in suicides we've seen across the DoD that some of these members may take their life

00:44:35.320 waiting for the DoD to do the right thing, which it may never do.

00:44:40.680 Dr. Sigaloff, how can folks follow your podcast and on what platforms?

00:44:45.540 So I'm on, I'm on all platforms where you can find podcasts.

00:44:48.660 It's After Hours with Dr. Sigaloff.

00:44:50.300 Also, I'm in a military advisory council with Truth for Health Foundation.

00:44:56.180 That's with Dr. Lee Valit.

00:44:58.200 It's a 401c3.

00:45:01.440 It's a not-for-profit, non-political group.

00:45:04.160 And she is giving grants to soldiers that need money for lawsuits and helping them get through this process.

00:45:11.080 And she's also donating a lot of her personal time to treat soldiers who have been injured.

00:45:16.200 And I want to put a little plug out there. 0.96

00:45:17.860 If any general sees this and wants to have an actual understanding of the injuries that are happening to soldiers,

00:45:24.480 email me at afterhours at 1791.com.

00:45:29.780 That's afterhours at 1791.com.

00:45:32.800 Or get a hold of Dr. Valit.

00:45:35.100 I will get you in touch with Dr. Valit.

00:45:37.180 And she will give you a true, honest opinion with no big money, with no outside influence,

00:45:42.880 with nothing other than truth and knowledge and wanting the best for our service members and our country members.

00:45:50.640 To give you that, because any general can make this stop right now.

00:45:55.440 I want to thank the three of you not only for fighting for our country,

00:45:58.740 but for fighting for your fellow service members who are, I think, waiting with bated breath for these legal determinations

00:46:06.360 and hoping that their careers and lives will not be ruined.

00:46:10.120 I will endeavor in the House Armed Services Committee to pursue legislation to block the administration of these mandates

00:46:16.900 and to restore the people who have been harmed by them.

00:46:19.860 I think that restoration is going to be very, very important.

00:46:22.380 And we're going to have to have a process for that because, you know,

00:46:25.620 the United States military is possibly the most important institution in our government

00:46:30.500 because it's what keeps us safe and it always has attracted the best and brightest among us.

00:46:35.440 And if we wanted to continue to do so, I think there are a lot more people in Washington

00:46:39.580 who need to hear the feedback that all of you just gave,

00:46:43.020 feedback that you're entirely entitled to give under your First Amendment rights to petition your government.

00:46:49.060 Thank you so much for joining me.

00:46:50.600 And I look forward to sharing updates regarding your progress

00:46:53.780 and the progress we're able to make in the Congress.

00:46:55.960 You guys have been fighting for this great country,

00:46:57.880 and you deserve lawmakers and representatives who will fight for you.

00:47:01.460 Thanks so much.

00:47:02.660 Thank you.

00:47:03.360 Thanks, sir.

The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - April 28, 2022

Episode 39 LIVE： Biden’s Military Purge (feat. Active Duty Service Members) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

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