In this episode of Firebrand Live, I discuss the ongoing fight between the Freedom Caucus and leadership in the House of Representatives over recorded votes and the need for all-night voting sessions. I speak with Rep. Chip Roy of Texas and Rep. Andy Biggs of Arizona.
00:03:31.000It's not like we have an unlimited number of tools.
00:03:33.000Demanding a recorded vote is one of the few things we can do to hold this corrupt administration and the Pelosi Democrats accountable.
00:03:40.000Now, moments ago, I spoke with former Freedom Caucus chairman Andy Biggs of Arizona and Texas Congressman Chip Roy about the fight brewing between the Freedom Caucus and the leadership on the matter of suspension voting and recorded votes.
00:04:17.000We can agree as a body to voice vote something, unanimous consent something.
00:04:21.000But it ought to be when there's general agreement.
00:04:23.000It ought to be when we're in the chamber.
00:04:24.000And we ought to have the time to vote.
00:04:26.000I mean, to review bills, look at them, have a debate over it before we're voting.
00:04:29.000And that's not the way this process works.
00:04:31.000It is designed by a cadre of leadership to jam bills through in order to curry favors and to have power in this town instead of us being able to represent the people.
00:04:42.000And, Andy, why do you think it's important for people to actually record a vote rather than simply allowing voice votes to be the imprimatur of approval of the body?
00:04:51.000You have to let the people know who you represent, how you're voting.
00:04:55.000You cannot just come up here and mask what you're doing behind this mob mentality of voice votes.
00:05:36.000But, Chip, you were informing a number of members last evening on the floor of very substantive things that conservatives might reasonably have objections to.
00:05:54.000And we're coming back in for votes on Monday.
00:05:56.000And if we show up for a vote that night at 6 o'clock, they've already voice voted a bunch of stuff on the floor of the House of Representatives with nobody in the chamber but like three people.
00:06:04.000So that's what the American people need to understand what we're actually talking about.
00:06:07.000All we're doing is having one of us volunteer to come in on a Monday, represent the rest of us to, you know, enforce our rights, and then say, hey, guys, we're just demanding the yays and nays.
00:06:17.000Now, the kind of bills we're talking about to say, oh, they're non-controversial bills.
00:06:21.000Well, there was one that was a naming of a post office, for example, in which an individual judge had been a part of a ruling of banning prayer in schools.
00:06:29.000Now, we have a debate about those things, but we wanted to say, hold on a second, should we be naming a federal courthouse after a judge that did something so directly out of line with the people?
00:06:37.000Or how about the literally, I think, $300 million worth of items that I know would have been attributed to our friend Thomas Massey, for example, if you compare how he voted actually voting versus voice votes, $300 million worth of stuff.
00:06:52.000There were a number of bills that had diversity, equity, inclusion.
00:06:55.000There was a, I think it was a veteran's contraception bill, which, look, I'm pro-contraception, but it had some funding in there that was controversial.
00:07:03.160We ended up, that got passed by voice vote last Congress.
00:07:06.100This Congress, we ended up stopping it, and then they had to do a rule on it, which means you actually have to debate it on the floor.
00:07:32.440I think the American people would be shocked to know that $300 million was to be spent without members of Congress actually ascribing their name to that approval of dollars.
00:07:58.220So when we consider why do they not want a voice vote, or excuse me, why they don't want a recorded vote, it's hard to get through everything.
00:08:06.840But one of the guys that was in my face last night, a Republican, was telling me he's got better things to do than be on the floor in voting.
00:24:52.480We can expose the terrible decisions that are being made,
00:24:57.600the people that are being given the empermata of government to harm our fellow Americans.
00:25:02.040And when we do that, we can actually get some wins for our people.
00:25:05.540It's a win that the disinformation board has been put on pause.
00:25:08.820It should be relegated to the dustbins of history and all the better for it.
00:25:13.900But don't think that the radical left is stopping there or giving up.
00:25:18.500There's been a whole lot of activity with the January 6th committee as they prepare for public hearings in the summer and fall to lead up to the midterms.
00:25:27.900Because the Democrats and their sad little Republican puppets, Cheney and Kinzinger,
00:25:33.340well, they know that there's not really an agenda or a narrative that the American people will run to to vote for Democrats in the upcoming midterms.
00:25:43.940And so they're trying to scare people.
00:25:45.440They're trying to act like anyone who is MAGA or ultra MAGA.
00:25:58.600Many in the media and on the political left have been calling for greater criminalization of political activity from January 6th and beyond.
00:26:06.520Frank Figluzzi is a frequent guest on MSNBC.
00:26:09.620And admittedly, while they call him a former prosecutor, he's a total hack.
00:26:13.480But just listen to him today on Morning Joe.
00:26:17.640We'll break it down on the other side of the clip.
00:26:18.980NBC News has confirmed that the Justice Department asked the House Select Committee investigating the attack to share transcripts from their closed-door interviews.
00:26:30.520The committee's chairman, Congressman Betty Thompson, says his panel is willing to talk to the DOJ,
00:26:36.600but they cannot give investigators full access to their work just yet, and labeled the request premature.
00:26:45.380The Justice Department has already charged nearly 800 people in connection with the attack.
00:26:50.360More than 280 have already pleaded guilty.
00:26:54.600Joining us now, former assistant director for counterintelligence at the FBI and MSNBC national security analyst, Frank Figluzzi.
00:27:04.480Frank, first of all, how big a development is this?
00:27:12.340All of this tension and frustration we've kind of sensed between the committee and DOJ may have been a deliberate effort by DOJ to stay out of the business of the committee,
00:27:24.220to avoid any public perception that the committee is dictating to DOJ or vice versa.
00:27:30.240DOJ is allowing the committee to do their investigative work for them.
00:28:00.740But it leads into this discussion with Frank Figluzzi.
00:28:04.260You see, the January 6th committee has functionally been operating in secret with a large number of their depositions and investigation materials and review of documents.
00:28:12.800And they learned something during the Ukraine impeachment, during the failed, aborted, Russia hoax impeachment.
00:28:20.560They learned that if all the information comes out, then we can dissect it, analyze it, put it in context, and make our reasonable argument fairly to the American people.
00:28:34.700They want to specially curate and select and basically put on legislative theater before the American people.
00:28:41.620But it's not just theater for theater's sake.
00:28:44.060The signal that you just got from Frank Figluzzi is that the January 6th congressional committee is actually hustling up evidence, making subpoena requests and demands.
00:28:56.520And then they're funneling that information to the Department of Justice to criminalize politics and political disagreement.
00:29:04.100So don't view the January 6th committee and the Department of Justice as separate entities going about their own thing.
00:29:10.760What you just saw there from MSNBC, from Morning Joe, from basically the talking points of the radical left,
00:29:17.720is this effort to fuse the legislative activity with criminal investigations intended to crush people, to bankrupt people,
00:29:27.500and really to get people to self-censor.
00:29:29.940Oh, gosh, I didn't have a MAGA sign in my front yard.
00:29:33.900Oh, no, gosh, I just donated to President Trump for his policies, not because I support him.
00:29:38.960You see, that's the whole thing, is to get people who think America first to retreat from their First Amendment rights,
00:29:47.060to be engaged and involved and to drive change.
00:29:51.280One place the Biden administration is creating a lot of negative change is on America's farms.
00:29:57.180The Biden administration is in war with America's farmers.