The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - Episode 50 - Liz Cheney Should Be Removed. Chicago's Leaders are Cowards. NYT Doxing Tucker Carlson.

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Hot Takes. I'm Congressman Matt Gaetz. Let's talk about the news.

00:00:20.340 The hottest takes in Congress today were during the Republican conference meeting

00:00:26.880 chaired by Liz Cheney. And based on the feedback she received and her reaction to that feedback,

00:00:34.700 I do not believe that Liz Cheney is the right person to lead the House Republican conference

00:00:40.320 into this upcoming November election. Jim Jordan, my colleague, my mentor, my friend,

00:00:46.140 made the case strongly that Liz Cheney is hurting President Trump. Jim pointed out Liz's opposition

00:00:53.180 to the president's Afghanistan policy, the president's Germany policy, the president's

00:00:58.840 response to coronavirus, her tweets attacking him, and frankly, her effort to try to oust

00:01:05.080 Republican Thomas Massey. Liz Cheney backed a racist against Thomas Massey. Liz Cheney donated

00:01:13.080 the maximum amount of money against Thomas Massey in his political campaign. And that is really

00:01:18.860 quite something when she is supposed to be leading our conference. And there are a lot of people in

00:01:23.420 our party who would not be in our party if it were not for the voices like Thomas Massey. Now,

00:01:29.280 I'm not saying that every Republican's got to see the world exactly like I do. I know that many don't,

00:01:34.540 but we're all on the same team. We're all supposed to be supportive of a Republican agenda,

00:01:40.200 and we can disagree and work together to craft that agenda. But Liz Cheney doesn't view her role 1.00

00:01:46.020 as chair of the conference as one of serving the Republican members. She seems to think we're

00:01:52.060 there to serve her. That's not leadership. That's not what we need going into the election. That's not 0.57

00:01:58.660 what President Trump needs going into the election. Representatives Paul Gosar, Representative LaMalfa,

00:02:06.060 Representative Jordan, myself, Representative Massey, Congressman Andy Biggs, who leads the Freedom

00:02:11.220 Caucus. We all stood up to defend Thomas Massey, to stand with our president, and to call on Liz Cheney

00:02:18.560 to be a better leader within the Republican conference. I hope that Liz reacts differently 0.98

00:02:24.720 over the next several hours and days than she did in the conference meeting. When asked why she went

00:02:30.840 after Thomas Massey, she just said, well, Thomas is a special case. And then later she said, well,

00:02:36.460 we shouldn't make things personal. Well, when you tell someone that they're a special case and that

00:02:42.820 that justifies your attacks against them, it is explicitly personal. And so Liz was a hypocrite 1.00

00:02:49.500 in today's discussion. She was ill-prepared to deal with, I think, the reality of the political 0.99

00:02:56.440 environment where we're in, trying to re-elect the president as a Republican conference. And I think

00:03:02.760 she's out of step with a majority of the Trump supporters and Republicans in the country.

00:03:08.720 I do suspect that Liz still has substantial amount of support within the Republican conference because

00:03:14.140 we got a lot of people in the Republican conference who aren't the biggest supporters of the president.

00:03:19.700 And, you know, that's not my viewpoint. It's not the way I think we ought to fight for the country.

00:03:25.700 A final critique that Liz Cheney made of me is that, well, I'm in a documentary that's critical of

00:03:31.240 Republicans. And we've talked about that on the show. What I'm critical of is a system in Washington

00:03:36.940 that has been adopted by both Republicans and Democrats that's corrupt, that hands over

00:03:43.100 legislating and decision-making to special interests and lobbyists and PACs. It's not a

00:03:48.800 criticism of any one member. It's not even a reason for me to go out and oppose any one member in a

00:03:54.140 primary. It's my effort to change things for the better. Liz Cheney today also attacked Congressman 0.89

00:04:00.620 Jim Jordan by implying that he is a divider and not a uniter in our conference. Let me be clear.

00:04:08.400 Jim Jordan is the most talented, hardest-working Republican in the United States Congress.

00:04:14.100 Without the work that I did alongside Jim Jordan and Louie Gohmert, who also spoke up today, and

00:04:19.220 Andy Biggs, I think that things could have been very different in terms of the public perception of

00:04:24.280 the Russia hoax and impeachment. But it was Jim leading the way alongside our small team that I

00:04:31.180 think really turned the tides and exposed the Russia hoax for what it was. And at the time,

00:04:36.040 our leadership was not only not supportive, some of the times they were actively throwing hurdles

00:04:40.840 in our way. And so we should not have a conference chair in the Republican Party that offers slights

00:04:48.280 against Jim Jordan, who criticizes me for calling out the corrupt PAC donation process in Washington,

00:04:55.300 or who goes and supports a racist against Thomas Massey because she doesn't support Thomas's view,

00:05:02.060 or frankly, the fact that she resents that Thomas wanted all of Congress back here voting in person,

00:05:08.020 which I completely agreed with and supported. I do not see how Republicans could contemplate taking

00:05:15.860 back the majority in the Congress if we do not have leadership that will stand with our president

00:05:21.280 and that will stand with our members and that will stop just shilling for the establishment and the

00:05:26.400 lobbyists and the special interests. Liz Cheney should be better, and our conference would be better

00:05:31.740 if she were no longer the chair of it.

00:05:36.380 Tucker Carlson, my good friend, being doxed by the New York Times, the purported paper of record that

00:05:43.620 at times does seem to do more harm to the country than good with misinformation and at times inaccurate

00:05:50.460 reporting, and in this case, just downright evil, willing to do harm to someone's family because

00:05:56.780 they don't like their politics. Here's Tucker's take.

00:05:59.480 Last week, the New York Times began working on a story about where my family and I live.

00:06:04.640 As a matter of journalism, there is no conceivable justification for a story like that.

00:06:08.940 The paper is not alleging we've done anything wrong, and we haven't. We pay our taxes,

00:06:12.660 we like our neighbors. We've never had a dispute with anyone. So why is the New York Times doing

00:06:17.700 a story on the location of my family's house? Well, you know why? To hurt us, to injure my wife

00:06:24.800 and kids so that I will shut up and stop disagreeing with them. They believe in force. We've learned 0.95

00:06:30.420 that. Two years ago, a left-wing journalist publicized our home address in Washington.

00:06:35.420 A group of screaming Antifa lunatics showed up while I was at work. They vandalized our home.

00:06:39.920 They threatened my wife. She called 911 while hiding in a closet. A few weeks later, they showed

00:06:44.960 up again at our house. For the next year, they sent letters to our home threatening to kill us.

00:06:50.240 Their story about where we live is slated to run in the paper this week. Editors there know exactly

00:06:55.440 what will happen to my family when it does run. I called them today and I told them, but they didn't

00:07:00.400 care. They hate my politics. They want this show off the air. If one of my children gets hurt because of a

00:07:05.980 a story they wrote, they won't consider it collateral damage. They know it's the whole

00:07:09.900 point of the exercise to inflict pain on our family, to terrorize us, to control what we say.

00:07:15.820 And the impact of these doxing events and making people less safe by exposing their information is

00:07:23.100 real. Last year, I was on the Tucker Carlson program explaining the very real, threatening impact of

00:07:31.180 the death threats that we get as members of Congress. And frankly, my frustration

00:07:35.980 that the FBI isn't doing enough about it. Here was that interview.

00:07:38.940 I received word late last week that the U.S. Attorney's Office, where this individual lived,

00:07:44.780 had reviewed the information and had deemed these messages, and I'm quoting directly,

00:07:49.020 a non-threat. It's obviously a crime, a federal crime, to make these types of threats against

00:07:55.740 any federal official. This year, we're on, not this Congress, I should say, we're on record for

00:08:01.820 10,000 threats against members of Congress. And I condemn them, whether they're against Republicans,

00:08:07.100 Democrats, liberals, conservatives, you know, this is just no way to operate within our country. And

00:08:13.100 I just wonder, like, is it the fact that I've been a critic of some of the senior officials at the FBI

00:08:18.380 that maybe leads to different treatment for the people who threaten me,

00:08:22.220 as opposed to the people who actually get arrested, who have threatened Eric Swalwell,

00:08:27.820 you know, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib. Those people actually get arrested. Whereas when people

00:08:32.940 threaten conservatives, I hope there's not a double standard. But, I mean, you heard the messages,

00:08:37.420 and there were even other messages where they threatened my family, Tucker.

00:08:40.140 The New York Times should do better. People's families and homes should be protected.

00:08:44.940 And one thing I know, Tucker Carlson and his family absolutely protect themselves with the

00:08:49.420 Second Amendment. I hope it doesn't come to that. Certainly, we ought to be able to disagree about

00:08:54.300 politics without putting other people at the threat of physical violence.

00:09:01.660 Chicago, one of the great cities in the United States of America, is under siege as a consequence

00:09:08.140 of violence. And there may be too much political fear to ask for help. Now, why is this happening?

00:09:15.580 With Democrats deciding to demonize and defund the police, we see the interactions between

00:09:23.260 police and members of the community fundamentally changing. Folks are far more willing to, I think,

00:09:29.980 deny the authority of the police and to generate conflict. And that's creating the types of retirements,

00:09:37.100 the recruiting problems that we've chronicled on the podcast. But the scoop from the Washington

00:09:43.340 Examiner's Emma Colton is that Chicago Alderman says the city is too afraid to ask Trump for help

00:09:50.700 from the violence. And the story comes from Chicago Alderman Anthony Napolitano. Here were his comments

00:09:56.300 on Fox and Friends. Going through the neighborhoods and talking to everybody, everyone kind of sees the

00:09:59.900 writing on the wall right now. And it's a state thing as well. We see and what we believe is that

00:10:06.780 people are too afraid right now to ask the president for help because if it does work,

00:10:10.700 they're going to make the president look like a success. And it's a political move. And I believe

00:10:15.340 what the FOP president said, like I said in the last time on your show, it's time to start putting

00:10:20.140 people first. We are dealing with crime at biblical proportions right now in Chicago.

00:10:24.860 And it is a shame that any city would feel like politics would limit them from being able to protect

00:10:31.980 their people, engage the federal government as a partner where appropriate, and do what we can to

00:10:37.500 preserve our great country. We shouldn't have the great cities of our nation devolve into war zones

00:10:44.460 on the streets. It shouldn't happen in Seattle or Portland or Chicago. And I'm glad President Trump

00:10:50.620 is taking strong action. Now we only need local leadership to have the same courage and the same

00:10:56.460 resolve and at least to work with us as partners.

00:10:59.100 A new Wall Street Journal NBC poll is out. And the conclusion is that Americans believe our society

00:11:09.660 to be racist. This is deeply saddening to me because America is not a racist society. This survey of 900

00:11:18.300 registered voters and, you know, who knows, were they in, were they all in the CHAZ? Were they all in

00:11:23.020 California? I don't, I don't know the methodology of the poll. I'll have to look into it. But 900 registered

00:11:28.540 voters, 56% say that America is a racist society. Now, unquestionably, there are people with ugly 0.96

00:11:37.020 views in the United States as there are people with ugly views in every society. But America is not a

00:11:43.980 racist country. America is a great country, a caring and compassionate country. We've let in more

00:11:50.380 immigrants than functionally any other country in existence in the modern era. We have extended grace.

00:11:57.420 We go and do all we can so that people around the world can taste freedom economically, politically,

00:12:04.300 and otherwise. We wouldn't do that if we were a racist society. Moreover, we've seen, I think,

00:12:10.860 tremendous progress on the issue of race in America. Of course, our founding had very ugly, tragic, 0.65

00:12:18.860 bizarre, and indefensible circumstances append to it. That could be true of almost any society of humans.

00:12:25.980 And as we came out of the Civil War, of course, Jim Crow was not the right way to reconcile,

00:12:32.860 rebuild, and stitch together a torn nation. But if we look at where we stand today,

00:12:39.420 with African-American unemployment, Hispanic-American unemployment, at some of the lowest rates ever

00:12:45.740 before coronavirus, we certainly see that the opportunity gap is being closed.

00:12:51.820 Certainly our education system is one reason why, as we educate our students together in an equal and

00:12:58.780 successful learning environment, we could see all students rise. I don't think anyone is

00:13:03.420 predetermined for failure in our schools or in our economy as a consequence of their race. Anyone at all. 0.99

00:13:10.380 And so I'm saddened that in this poll, it seems to reflect that there are Americans who

00:13:15.660 do disagree with that premise that we are caring and compassionate and that we don't just subjugate

00:13:22.860 people as a consequence of their race. I don't see that when I'm out in America. I don't see that

00:13:29.180 feeling presented. And maybe it's just the case that these polls are skewed by virtue of who is

00:13:35.180 answering them. You know, maybe 56 percent of the people who want to answer a Wall Street Journal,

00:13:39.820 NBC News poll feel this way. But where I live, with the people I talk to, I think most folks

00:13:45.820 love America. And in these times, we need to love her ever stronger.

00:13:50.380 Fire the white people first. It's a terrible thing to say. It's a terrible thing to think. 1.00

00:14:00.940 No one should be hired or fired or given or deprived an opportunity in this great country

00:14:06.940 as a result of the color of their skin. It should be as a result of people's merit,

00:14:11.740 of what they can do to help their fellow Americans or serve a business or a community. But that's not what

00:14:18.380 Seattle City Council member Lisa Herbold thinks. She suggested that personnel terminations in the

00:14:25.580 Seattle Police Department be made on the basis of race. The Post Millennial has the report. It

00:14:31.900 comes from Ari Hoffman. And I am sickened that a member of an elected government in the United States

00:14:39.260 of America would adhere to such a racist viewpoint when it comes to human resources. I mean, we do

00:14:47.420 everything we can to try to tell young people that the color of your skin, the conditions of your

00:14:52.700 birth, the people you love, the faith that you choose to adopt is not something that will dictate

00:14:59.660 your life circumstances in the United States of America. But of course, in Seattle, they're wanting

00:15:04.780 to defund the police. And so there are going to be terminations. And they literally are talking,

00:15:10.620 at least this one city council member about making those determinations and making those terminations

00:15:16.860 on the basis of race. It is explicitly racist. It is disgusting. And frankly, the Department of

00:15:23.260 Justice should get involved to protect the civil rights of anyone, black, white or otherwise, who is

00:15:30.380 fired or treated differently in an employment opportunity as a consequence of the color of their

00:15:35.740 skin. It is un-American. Lisa Herbold, do better in Seattle. 1.00

00:15:43.500 The circumstances in Seattle from a safety and public health standpoint continue to deteriorate as

00:15:50.220 a result of lawlessness. Violent vandalism again in downtown Seattle leaves businesses forced to board up.

00:15:58.140 The people causing that destruction clearly came wanting to do that. They were dressed to do it. They had the

00:16:03.500 implements to do it. They were, you know, most people when they go to protest are not, you know,

00:16:09.100 camouflaged head to toe, wearing helmets and goggles and carrying baseball bats or inflammatory devices.

00:16:16.060 We must make sure that this does not spread to our other cities, to our other communities, that

00:16:22.140 our police do not feel like they're barricaded and under siege in their police department, that they're

00:16:27.660 a target when they go out on patrol to respond to calls and to help people.

00:16:31.900 We can do better than what we see in Seattle now. And I think that President Trump is mobilizing a

00:16:37.900 federal force to ensure that our communities remain free and safe and prosperous. Certainly,

00:16:44.140 we don't militarize beyond what is necessary here on our homeland, but that we absolutely create the

00:16:50.460 safe conditions for law-abiding people to enjoy this great country without the fear of the type of

00:16:56.140 political terrorism we see in Seattle. Thanks so much for listening to Hot Takes. I'm Congressman Matt

00:17:02.540 Gates. Don't forget, subscribe, rate, leave us a review, and make sure to join us tomorrow for more Hot Takes.

The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - July 21, 2020

Episode 50 - Liz Cheney Should Be Removed. Chicago's Leaders are Cowards. NYT Doxing Tucker Carlson.

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