Episode 58 LIVE： Who Is In Control？ (feat. Rep. Anthony Sabatini) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz
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Summary
On this Independence Day episode of Firebrand Live, host Anthony Sabatini is joined by Florida State Rep. Anthony Sabtini (R-GA) to discuss the current state of the Democratic Party, and what s happening in California, Florida, and around the country.
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Matt Gaetz was one of the very few members in the entire Congress
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who bothered to stand up against permanent Washington on behalf of his constituents.
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Matt Gaetz right now, he's a problem in the Democratic Party.
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And he could cause a lot of hiccups in passing applause.
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So we're gonna keep running those stories to get hurt again.
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if you want to build America up and not burn her to the ground,
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You are in the right place. This is the movement for you.
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I'm a canceled man in some corners of the internet.
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Many days I'm a marked man in Congress, a wanted man by the deep state.
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They aren't really coming for me. They're coming for you.
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We're going to seize the rights and souls of the Iranian people.
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We're going to seize their yachts, their luxury homes and other ill-begotten gains of Putin's kleptocracy,
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We're going to seize their yachts, their luxury homes, and other ill-begotten gains
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of Putin's kleptocracy. The guys who are the kleptocracies.
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But these are bad guys. America is a nation that can be defined in a single word.
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I was going to put him in a foot. Turn on the TV. Look at the ads. When's the last time you saw
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biracial couples on TV? When's the last time you saw the way, I mean, people are selling products.
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They do ads to sell products. It is noteworthy that the percentage of women who register to vote
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and cast a ballot is consistently higher than the percentage of the men who do so. End of quote.
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Repeat the line. And she was forced to have to travel out of the state to Indiana
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to seek to terminate the presidency and maybe save her life.
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Firebrand Live is back, broadcasting from our office in the Longworth Building
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We've got a great Florida man, State Representative Anthony Sabatini, joining us in just a moment
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to answer the question, like, who is in charge anymore?
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We've got the global elites flipping on the fundamental question of sanctions.
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You've got Joe Biden, a man in decline, doing his best to bring our nation into decline with him.
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And you've got Gavin Newsom doing everything he can to assert his control over the Democratic Party.
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Power really abhors a vacuum. It especially abhors a vacuum in Democrat politics.
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But it is interesting to see Gavin Newsom stepping forward to make his case for control of the Democratic Party.
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California ranks as the second most expensive place to live in the country.
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It also ranks as the second highest state in exporting its citizens to Florida.
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Through misguided government lockdowns and ridiculous tax rates and unhinged immigration,
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government bankruptcy, and crime run amok, native Californians have found themselves
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Places with just as much sunshine, zero income tax, more coastline, and better state governance.
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I mean, the cost of housing is increasingly a central issue, crushing the American family.
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Right now, median home price in Pensacola, Florida, $310,000.
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But compare that to Los Angeles, where that same home would cost $800,000.
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The same home in San Francisco with their needles and their parks and their shit-stained streets.
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Now, with that in mind, California Governor Gavin Newsom got on the airwaves in Florida
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It's Independence Day, so let's talk about what's going on in America.
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Republican leaders, they're banning books, making it harder to vote,
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restricting speech in classrooms, even criminalizing women and doctors.
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I urge all of you living in Florida to join the fight or join us in California,
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Paid for by Newsom for California Governor 2022.
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The freedom to have illegal immigrants running all over your state.
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The freedom to pay for health care for those illegals.
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In 2020, Florida's net income from domestic migration led the nation, number one, at $23.7 billion.
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Compare that to California's negative $17.8 billion.
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Because people are voting with their feet and leaving California.
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Yet in the face of all of these indicators, Gavin Newsom emerges as a Democrat icon.
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Because Democrats would rather be lied to by Gavin than just shuttled in to sleep with Joe Biden.
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Perhaps Gavin has a tighter grip on the Democratic Party's policy agenda than our own president.
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Sad for America, but give Gavin Newsom credit for seizing the moment.
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Joining me now, one of the greatest America First fighters to have ever served in the Florida legislature.
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One of the best allies of Governor Ron DeSantis in the Sunshine State, Anthony Sabatini.
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Representative Sabatini, what is your reaction to Gavin Newsom welcoming Floridians to California?
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Well, Congressman, I think even George Orwell would be proud by his misuse of language.
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Like you mentioned in your monologue, he has literally turned words upside down.
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You know, I don't think there's a lot of freedom in California these days.
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But one freedom they still have that is being exercised quite rapidly is the freedom to leave.
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A lot of people are trying to get out of California.
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So, you know, going through that ad, I'll tell you, first, the first thing I would note is, like you mentioned, up until this time, California's biggest export were people.
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People getting out and coming to the state of Florida.
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Now it seems the biggest export is going to be these new TV ads where they send them into different states trying to beg people to come back.
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You don't have the freedom to defend yourself if you're attacked by somebody.
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You don't have the Second Amendment rights, and your prosecutor isn't even able to prosecute some of these criminals.
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Taxes and regulations have made it that home ownership is just out of reach for the average Californian.
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How are you supposed to love somebody when you're forced to wear three masks in every public space that you go to?
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You've never seen love prevail like when it has to prevail through three masks.
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So, Representative Sabatini, what would you say is central to Florida's success?
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I mean, as you and I have traveled around the country, we've heard from so many policy leaders on the right saying,
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gosh, you know, what do we have to do to become more like Florida?
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Ironically, it's exactly what's highlighted in this ad.
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I always tell people, you got the American dream.
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Well, the Florida dream is like the American dream in the American dream.
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People come from all over looking for opportunity and looking for a place where they can create something great,
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whatever it is that means to them, you know, being free.
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And so that's why our utmost goal is to reinforce and create a sense of freedom when it comes to taxes, regulation, laws,
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and just letting people do what they want and be what they want.
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And I think it's going to continue to be the key.
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California was seen at one point as the center of innovation.
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They would, you know, have the greatest minds in the world all choosing to move to California and collaborate with one another.
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As a result of remote work, we've really seen human talent democratize around the country.
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How have you seen that in Florida and particularly in central Florida?
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You know, people are able to choose Florida to be their lifestyle but still work in a national or global economy just by staying here.
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We're seeing towns be revitalized and quiet places outside of Orlando, like I represent,
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are now becoming a bustling center because people are coming in.
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And it's led to a sort of rebirth of the economy in places where it didn't exist before that,
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mostly because of these other states running themselves into the ground.
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While I know many conservatives are worried about big tech censorship and certainly illegal immigration and election integrity, all issues,
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I certainly want to talk about the number one issue that I've been hearing about,
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the rising price of goods, the rising price of fuel, the shrinkflation at the grocery store where the package of peppers that you used to buy,
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well, if it's the same price, it's a lot smaller in terms of what you're actually getting for your family as a part of the consumer experience.
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And Gavin Newsom in California has responded to inflation by handing money out to people to combat inflation.
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It strikes me as the dumbest thing to possibly do.
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And I just wonder, like, the discipline that you've shown in the Florida legislature,
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that really generations of Florida legislators have shown with fiscal policy, by building up state reserves,
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by not having these government programs that just spit money at people,
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you know, has that created an economic resilience for Florida?
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And what's your reaction to policies that actually exacerbate inflation in the name of curbing inflation?
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Just like we learned, you know, in the response to the Great Depression,
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a lot of the policies that get thrown to combat these terrible atrocities in the economy actually exacerbate and make things worse.
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And so that scarcity that results from subsidizing things is something we've always tried to push back against.
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You know, one of the first things they're trying to push, I'm talking about the Democrats in the legislature and those on the left,
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one of the first things they're trying to push this year and going forward are rent control devices,
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different types of laws to dictate the prices of rent.
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And what that does is it drives up the scarcity and ends up having the opposite result, what they want,
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which is that people who are trying to get the few properties for rent have less of a chance of doing so
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because everybody else is locked out of the market.
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How do you do that competition and increasing quantity of goods and services that are sold for whatever it be, rent or goods or whatever?
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That means embracing the free market economy more fully.
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You know, a lot of times we see these failures in the economy, and it's because of restrictions on a free economy.
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And Florida is the king at resisting these interventions in the economy and exactly what you said is exactly right.
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It's why we've become more resilient over the years.
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Homeownership is higher and cheaper in Florida.
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And as much as we're dealing with the Biden economy and the Bidenflation,
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we know that embracing free market reform is what's going to keep prices down and get us back to where we were in the Trump years.
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You have been one of the national fighters against these state policies that seem to encourage illegal immigration.
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And in California, there are barriers to state law enforcement even working with our Customs and Border Patrol with ICE
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to ensure that we have protection at the border and also internal enforcement of our immigration laws.
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Illegal aliens know, I mean, I've been to the California-Arizona-Mexico border.
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And what the law enforcement say is they'll literally run away from Arizona and into California
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because they know the state and local law enforcement there can't engage in coordination.
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Those very people then get health care benefits and other benefits that rely on drawdowns from the federal government.
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So that means that your constituents, Representative Sabatini, and my constituents are seeing their federal tax dollars
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used to incentivize illegal immigrants into the state of California.
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How do you think the federal government ought to treat states that are purposefully recalcitrant
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on the issue of border protection and illegal immigration?
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I think the federal government needs to play a major role in doing that.
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I think it needs to actually use both the carrot and the stick to stop these states from engaging in those policies.
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You know, here in Florida, we shut down sanctuary cities.
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Now it's time for the federal government to shut down sanctuary states.
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That means cutting off funding, tightening regulations, utilizing and using federal power to punish these states,
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both with civil and criminal remedies, for when they exacerbate law-breaking and bring in illegal immigrants.
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On top of that, there's a lot that the federal government can do to incentivize and even mandate the use of E-Verify
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and other measures that make it that states have to use a legally compliant workforce within their own borders.
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And I think that's something we really need to be engaged in very quickly,
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because the 13 million, at a minimum, illegal immigrants that we have in this country
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is having a major effect both on crime, but also on the scarcity of housing.
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Going back to the economy, we know that housing is going to go up as long as you have an open border.
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We can't provide enough housing for our own people, much less the world's people.
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And so the federal government needs to use civil and criminal remedies to put forth.
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And I plan on joining you in legislation to make sure that we can actually drop the hammer on these states
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when we get the White House and control Congress in the next couple of years.
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This is absolutely essential. A serious nation cannot allow appendages of the nation
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to be sanctuary against our laws when it comes to who's allowed to be in our nation.
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That should just never happen. And I mean, you think about California.
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It used to be a red state, and then it was a purple state, and now it's a reliably blue state.
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And the reason is because they've allowed a lot of these illegal immigrants to vote.
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And I mean, there was a recent Wall Street Journal piece, go ahead and put it up, guys,
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showing this mass migration of people out of California into Florida.
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Not just Florida, but you see the SEC states are pretty much gaining population.
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And people are abandoning as refugees, Illinois, California,
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and places where certainly the policies are more reflective of what I hear from the left
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here in Washington, D.C. But if they get the illegal immigrants in to replace the citizens
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that are leaving, that they've already abandoned, then their goal is to get those illegal immigrants
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Now, in Florida, Representative Anthony Sabatini, you have led efforts on election integrity
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to push for strong chain of custody over ballots, strong verification of people's ID.
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How should Americans think about this grand plan on the left to lash their immigration policies
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with an erosion of the election integrity measures that ensure that lawful votes are not diminished?
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Well, the first key is to do exactly what you just did is identify it.
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You know, a lot of people are asleep and they don't realize that the left,
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whether it be in a centralized or decentralized way,
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is pushing a lot of policies in conjunction to fundamentally reshape the country.
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One of them is bringing folks in who don't really quite understand the nature of a republic
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and the idea of self-sacrifice and what it is we're voting for every time we go into the ballot box,
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and at the same time making it extremely, extremely lax voting laws, easy to vote,
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You know, what we've done in Florida is we've identified this trend in what the Biden regime
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is trying to do, and we've made it more secure in our voting stations and our voting systems.
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One of those things is securing ballot boxes, making it that you can't just have these random ballot
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Another one is making it that people actually have to verbally and in written form request
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Of course, I ultimately want to reduce the amount of vote by mail,
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which means reducing the amount of vote by mail fraud,
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but making it that they have to use a social security number, a driver's license,
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voter ID when they request those ballots is really key.
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And of course, most famously, we ban Zuckerbergs.
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Third parties, billionaire third parties should not be playing a role in how our elections are
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Those are a few of the measures that we got signed into law by Governor DeSantis over the
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last few years, and I think we need to continue moving in that direction until we have 100% security
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And so if you live in Michigan or Georgia or Pennsylvania or Arizona, you don't have to live
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this way. Florida has shown how to go from a laughingstock on election management and reporting
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and transparency to the model for the country and a big reason why great fighters like state
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representative Anthony Sabatini leading on election integrity, leading against illegal
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immigration, ensuring that our education system is worthy of the values of our great country.
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And most importantly, Anthony Sabatini is leading on the issue of freedom, both as a state
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legislator and I think as a private attorney, sued almost every government entity in Florida
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that was trying to impose mandates on our great people.
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Representative Sabatini, how can folks follow you and keep up with your great work?
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My handle on almost all forms of social media is at Anthony Sabatini on Twitter.
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And of course, they can always email me at my statehouse site, which is on myfloridahouse.gov.
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The Florida legislative website's got my email on there.
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Thanks for joining us and thanks for fighting for the great free state of Florida.
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We are going to stay on the subject of elections and election integrity, and there is a hot story
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going on in Arizona that requires a great deal more attention.
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Right now, your federal tax dollars are being used to bully the state of Arizona against their
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desire to have an actual verification of citizenship at the time of voting.
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As Representative Sabatini just discussed, we actually should be improving ways to verify
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ID, citizenship, chain of custody on ballots in every state of the country.
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And then when Arizona actually stepped forward and said, you know what?
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We want to verify citizenship for the voting process.
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The United States Department of Justice Civil Rights Division went after them.
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Now, Arizona recently passed a law that requires proof of citizenship in presidential elections.
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So when registering to vote for the first time, a voter would have to write down their address
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when filling out a ballot and bubble in a box stating that that voter is, in fact, an American
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Apparently, this is such an injustice that the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice
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Assistant Attorney General Kristen Clark called the new Arizona law, quote,
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a textbook violation of the National Voter Registration Act.
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Call me crazy, but I always thought the purpose of the National Voter Registration Act
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was to protect the right of Americans to vote and to not have their vote diluted by people
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who are not citizens, who are not in our country legally, who are not eligible to vote.
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It's beyond reasonable to ensure that particularly those voting in presidential elections are able
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It ain't exactly the poll tax, but this activist Department of Justice isn't reasonable on the
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The DOJ Civil Rights Division is chocked full of far-left activists.
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I mean, these are people on the far fringes of left-wing politics.
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In fact, you might remember Dr. Pamela Carlin, who is now the Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney
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General in the Civil Rights Division, but she gave testimony before the House Judiciary
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Committee during the Trump-Ukraine impeachment, where she even stooped so low as to insult
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The Constitution says there can be no titles of nobility.
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So while the President can name his son Barron, he can't make him a Barron.
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I just have to say, when you talk about how liberals want to be around each other in clusters,
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and conservatives don't want to be around each other, and so they have to spread out,
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it makes people, you may not see this from, you know, like the ivory towers of your law
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school, but it makes actual people in this country feel like, excuse me, you don't get
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Now, let me also suggest that when you invoke the President's son's name here, when you try
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to make a little joke out of referencing Barron Trump, that does not lend credibility to
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It makes you look like you're attacking someone's family, the minor child of the President of
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When Dr. Pamela Carlin is empowered to go and bully the state of Arizona away from proof
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of citizenship to vote, they're not acting in good faith.
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These are not well-meaning lawyers fighting to protect your civil rights.
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These are partisan activists working to steal the next presidential election.
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There is no justification for the Department of Justice trying to strike down proof of citizenship
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other than they want to make it easier for non-citizens to vote.
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Why else would you stand against a citizenship attestation?
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It's because they want the non-citizens voting because they've let so many of them in.
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As we've covered extensively, the border crisis is not an accident.
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They want to flood this country with foreigners who are not given permission to be here and
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then enable them to vote in presidential elections in swing states like Arizona.
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That's why they settled these aliens in a lot of swing states, actually, releasing them into
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The Democrats know that their policies aren't attractive to Americans, and if they can't
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convince Americans to vote for them, they will import people who will.
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And that plan doesn't work unless those new people you've imported can actually vote,
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and a citizenship requirement would get in the way of that grand plan.
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We must stop these subversive actions against our country at all costs.
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It is about protecting the integrity of our elections.
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And if we don't have borders and fair elections, we don't have a country.
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We have to fight like we've never fought before on this critical question, and I would
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say this critical intersection of election integrity and immigration.
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We have to be very strong on both, a lot stronger than Republicans have been, but good for
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We will help you fight back against this activist, political, partisan Department of Justice.
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We are seeing a reversal of some matters on the global stage right now, particularly as
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it relates to the way the elites talk about sanctions.
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He is an opinion contributor for The Washington Post, and he's basically the mouthpiece of
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This was his perspective on sanctions previously.
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The Biden administration deserves huge credit for the economic measures it's been able to take
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As an essay by Gary Huffbauer and Megan Hogan note, they are the most comprehensive imposed
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against a major power since the Second World War.
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On a punishment scale, they rank them as at least an 8 out of 10.
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I mean, you could not have had a bigger cheerleader for these sanctions, and frankly, there's a
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But I was the lonely voice in the wilderness at times, warning people that the effects of
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these sanctions might not be as the architects intended.
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I don't really know that the sanctions would play out the way the architects would hope.
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Right now, we see more and more Chinese investment funds buying up distressed Russian assets.
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I think there are huge geopolitical consequences to driving Asia's largest producer of energy
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into the arms of Asia's largest consumer of energy.
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That could create a Sino-Russian alliance that would pose a far greater threat to America
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than even the terrible carnage that we hope ends in Ukraine.
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My critics always say, oh, well, if you're not for the Russia sanctions, you're Putin's
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advocate, Putin's lawyer, the Putin wing of the Republican Party.
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No, I am the America first wing of the Republican Party.
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So I made those comments about the misguided nature of some of these sanctions against
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Fareed did the bear hug of the sanctions, talking about how glorious they were in May.
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And even Insider, Business Insider, took note that it was basically Marjorie Taylor Greene,
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Thomas Massey, and myself as the three Republicans who were skeptical of some of these economic actions
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that the Democrats and the Republicans and the neoconservatives and heck, even the squad
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And just this Sunday, we see a very different narrative coming out of Fareed Zakaria.
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It is now clear that the economic war against Russia is not working nearly as well as people
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Vladimir Putin cares less about what these sanctions do to the Russian people than he
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And thanks to rising energy prices, Bloomberg projects that the Russian government will
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make considerably more revenue from oil and gas than it did before the war, around $285
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billion in 2022 compared to $236 billion in 2021.
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Revenues from oil and gas alone make up almost half the government's budget.
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And unfortunately, the solution would not be for the West to stop buying Russian energy
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altogether, because with less supply on the world's market, it would only drive prices
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Having developed a dangerous dependence on Russian energy over the last two decades, Europe cannot
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quickly change that without plunging into a deep and protracted recession.
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There was never a plan with these sanctions regimes for the pain to be fully borne by Vladimir Putin
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and his crony thugs rather than the American people.
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You saw all of the desire of Fareed and the global elites to embrace these sanctions.
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Warnings from myself, Massey, Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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Incredible pain for the American people at the gas pump with agricultural products, with
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And now, now you see the total boomerang from Fareed Zakaria saying, oh, well, you know,
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Like, how come the media isn't talking more about that, that this sanction regime that we've
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put out there has actually allowed Vladimir Putin to see a dramatic increase in the price of
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oil and gas, he's got all the customer base he needs still in Europe and with China, and
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he's laughing at us like fools as our people in our country suffer for this war.
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And we could have had a more rational approach to what we were capable of doing and not capable
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of doing before our own constituents, our fellow Americans, saw their lives changed for the
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Shame on the global elites and the politicians and the Biden administration for embracing
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these sanctions without fully appreciating their consequences.
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Now we see those consequences and they will likely result in Democrats being out of power,
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Now, I haven't heard a whole lot of my colleagues going out into the country saying that they
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really just need to be more committed to the war in Ukraine, right?
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I mean, most people are trying to present an economic plan or an immigration plan or, you
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know, on the left, people are trying to create all kinds of histrionics over January 6th, but
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there aren't that many saying vote Democrat so that we could print more of your money to send
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to Ukraine, vote Democrat so that we can borrow money from one country and give it to another.
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And an exception to this rule is Ruben Gallego, Arizona congressman, serves with me on the
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Armed Services Committee, and this is his tweet.
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Fact is, if the Republicans take over the House in 2022, U.S. support for Ukraine will come to
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They will not be able to stop Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz from dictating our Ukraine
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You know what, Representative Gallego, from your lips to God's ears, if Republicans take
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control, I will work with Marjorie Taylor Greene and others to ensure that we do not borrow money
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from one country to send it to another, that we do not print money, thereby devaluing the
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work and the savings of our fellow Americans so that we can engage in neoconservative misadventurism
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I do not hope that Russia prevails in this conflict.
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Matter of fact, I enthusiastically am rooting for Ukraine.
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But the funding, the resources, the logistics ought to matter more to Europe than to the United
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And the fact that we've sent, like, nearly $60 billion into this battle, while we have
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a porous border with Mexico, while we have needs for our people, while the printing of
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money is creating escalating costs and challenges for our families, it's entirely irresponsible.
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When leaders are irresponsible, sometimes it's the end of the road.
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There is new leadership coming in the United Kingdom.
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Boris Johnson out, that's been well chronicled, the various and sundry reasons seem to have
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You knew it was coming if you were watching Firebrand in January.
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My good friend Raheem Kassam, who is the publisher of The National Pulse, that's thenationalpulse.com,
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he was our guest to discuss geopolitics, British politics, and he made this amazing prediction
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In a post-Brexit world, you had the Conservative Party, which is by no means conservative.
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We try to re-establish itself as the electoral force in the United Kingdom, and they did a
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Boris Johnson got a whopping 80-seat majority in the House of Commons.
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It meant that he could basically rule as he wanted to, introduce whatever legislation that
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he or his wife, which I'll get into in a second, wanted him to.
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And it hasn't worked out very well, because as the Conservative Party always does, it kind
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of reverts to this establishment disconnected with the public type of governing philosophy.
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And now there are all sorts of scandals swirling around 10 Downing Street, which is the executive
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branch of the British government, not least to do with Boris Johnson's new wife.
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We don't have a constitutional role for kind of a first lady in the United Kingdom.
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So people are starting to ask questions because this lady, Carrie, Carrie Simmons, Carrie Johnson,
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appears to be at the heart of so many decisions that are being made at the heart of the British
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government, a lot of the climate change policy stuff.
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She was very well entrenched with the Clinton initiative, for instance, used to work for one
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People are starting to ask, well, where exactly is Boris Johnson getting his left-leaning credentials
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And it appears to be her, and there are scandal upon scandal upon scandals which are building
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If I were a betting man, I would say that Boris Johnson doesn't look like he could desperately
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It does depend if there's a challenger from within the Conservative Party, but it looks to
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be a tumultuous year in British politics in the very same way it looks to be a tumultuous
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So, Kassam predicts that Boris Johnson will lose power, and he predicts that the reason
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he'll lose power is an accumulating list of scandals and a departure from the policies
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and practices that were promised to the people of Great Britain.
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Gosh, really, really prescient stuff from Raheem Kassam, and it shows.
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You can see the future if you watch Firebrand and if you listen to us.
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