Episode 62 LIVE： Deep State Secrets (feat. Dr. Darren J. Beattie) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz
Summary
On today's show, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-GA) and Dr. Darren Beattie (D-VA) discuss the latest in the ongoing saga of the January 6th Committee hearing, including the fake arrest of AOC and Joe Biden, and what the committee might be up to tonight.
Transcript
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Matt Gaetz was one of the very few members in the entire Congress who bothered to stand up against Permanent Washington on behalf of his constituents.
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Matt Gaetz right now, he's a problem in the Democratic Party.
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He could cause a lot of hiccups in passing the laws.
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So we're going to keep running those stories to keep hurting him.
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If you stand for the flag and kneel in prayer, if you want to build America up and not burn her to the ground,
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then welcome, my fellow patriots. You are in the right place. This is the movement for you.
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You ever watch this guy on television? It's like a machine. Matt Gaetz.
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I'm a canceled man in some corners of the Internet. Many days I'm a marked man in Congress, a wanted man by the deep state.
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They aren't really coming for me. They're coming for you. I'm just in the way.
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We are live broadcasting from Capitol Hill, our office here in the Longworth building.
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And we've got the great Darren Beattie, publisher of Revolver News, with us to break down the news of the day
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and really the news of this evening and going into next week as well.
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We've got the fake handcuffs on AOC, appending to a very real arrest that several Democrats
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sort of walked themselves into on purpose over at the Supreme Court.
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And Joe Biden apparently does not have cancer but does have COVID.
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So we hope for his speedy recovery from those things and anything else that may ail him.
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And in a lot of ways, we learn as much from what the January 6th committee doesn't show you
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as we learn from the things that they do show you.
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And Dr. Beattie, what do you expect from the January 6th committee tonight?
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What I don't expect is anything that actually provides insight into what actually happened on January 6th.
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The ostensible reported topic of the hearing tonight is going to be the, I think it's the period from when Trump gives his speech
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to sort of the follow-up message that he did later in the afternoon on January 6th.
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So I imagine it will focus on some kind of half-hearted attempt, as they've been doing, to link Trump to this so-called insurrection,
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to say, oh, he didn't call it off, you know, strenuously enough.
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And, you know, just more of the same, basically, of what we've seen.
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And I don't know if we're going to be treated to another ridiculous spectacle along the lines of this Hutchinson woman
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or the weird, you know, Halloween costume tear, like, militia men that they paraded in the last hearing.
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And that means just more ridiculousness and more nothing treatment of the things that actually matter.
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So this is supposed to be the big finale, the big crescendo, the big moment.
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And you have to wonder, are they going to do, like, the cliffhanger thing like they do at the end of the other performances?
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And what a lot of the American people don't realize is that there are thousands of hours of depositions.
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And if we had real Republicans on the committee, my guess is a lot of that testimony,
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a lot of those records would, in a lot of ways, exonerate the president, his advisors,
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the people who wanted to show up on January 6th and make an argument.
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So, you know, we met with Vice President Pence December 21st over at the White House.
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And as you might imagine, in those, like, late weeks in December,
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there was some confusion in the Congress about how the procedure would go on January 6th.
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Would it be, you know, a unicameral gathering with the Senate the entire time?
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Would there be breakouts during those breakouts?
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Would there then be a rejoining back to a unicameral vote of some kind?
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And who would preside in such a unicameral environment?
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So we went over to the White House to really understand kind of the flow of the day,
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as expected on January 6th from the Vice President's perspective.
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And the Vice President said, and I remember his exact words, he said,
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I think where there was agreement among members of Congress, President Trump,
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Vice President Pence, is that we had legitimate election integrity grievances that we wanted to air.
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We wanted to use January 6th as a mechanism to drive better improvements to the elections process going forward,
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perhaps even inspire better bills at the state level on ballot custody, on mail-in voting, on signature verification.
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I mean, that was the flavor of the arguments we were constructing.
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And we left on December 21st from the White House fully, you know,
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expecting that that was what the Vice President was going to do,
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because he told us that was what he was going to do.
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We were going to have the debate, we were going to have a vote,
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and then very likely Joe Biden was going to be President of the United States,
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barring some vast departure of the voting bloc the Democrats have been able to rely on.
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And, you know, I haven't gotten my letter from the January 6th Committee.
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I would probably be pretty anxious to go in in front of the cameras
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and in front of the whole country and lay out the truth of what happened
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They don't want people, you know, actually in front of the American people.
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They want to do this Adam Schiff scenario where they tuck you in the bunker in the basement,
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they video you for eight hours, and then they slice and dice out the testimony.
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Now, that brings us really, I think, to Ray Epps.
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You have called Ray Epps the smoking gun of the Fed's direction.
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his almost paramilitary organization of other people that day,
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his presence in critical moments at critical points.
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a Trump backer's downfall is the target of a January 6th conspiracy theory.
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And the mainstream media has been highly critical of the documented video evidenced reporting
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at revolver.news that is still up, that I still encourage everyone to check out.
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And, you know, Dr. Beattie, what struck me about the New York Times piece is
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they never asked Ray Epps the operative question.
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Was he ever working for or in concert with anyone that was directed by the federal government?
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Why do you think they didn't ask him that question?
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But before I get to this, I just want to make a couple points about the committee and its structure
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I mean, really, it's set up, as I said in another context, to call it a kangaroo court is misplaced
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because we haven't picked a sufficiently embarrassing animal to do justice to what this is.
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I mean, it's a double whammy from the standpoint of these witnesses, because, first of all,
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they're not going to pick anyone to come up and testify who about their associated, that
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there's any kind of possibility that they would deviate from the predetermined narrative.
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And secondly, even the people like Hutchinson and others that they bring on who are, you know,
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totally in line with the Benny Thompson, Adam Schiff narrative, they're not even allowing
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So it's really set up from the beginning to be this fake thing and couldn't be further
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from a vehicle or an institution that's genuinely set up to get to the bottom of what happened.
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Wait, wait, before we get to Epps, I want to drill down on this because there have been a
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lot of people critical of Kevin McCarthy for pulling all of the remaining Republicans off
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the committee when Jim Jordan and Jim Banks were not allowed to serve on the committee.
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And I would love to see my colleague, Kelly Armstrong, who's a very capable criminal defense
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lawyer before coming to Congress, I would love to see him there answering questions.
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But I have not joined the chorus of criticism of McCarthy on this point, because, like, were
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we really going to sit there and allow Nancy Pelosi to have veto over our members?
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Were we really going to get just, I mean, you know, I don't know, I don't even know the
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Were we really going to get defrocked in such a way that, like, Republicans could be on there,
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but only the, like, low-energy Nancy Pelosi Republicans that were pre-approved?
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I mean, as we look back at that decision, I almost think McCarthy made the right decision,
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even though there are definitely times now when I wish we had Kelly Armstrong there answering
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Absolutely, it's, I mean, I think we could get in the weeds on that question.
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But I think more importantly is that any body that purports to conduct an actual sort of
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disinterested, objective dive into finding out what January 6th was all about, for Nancy Pelosi
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to have such oversight over any committee automatically dooms it from the start.
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And however we got to the position where we are now, it's just important to point out and
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emphasize that, you know, although it bears the trappings of some kind of legal proceeding,
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and there are a lot of, I think, incredibly improper ways in which the committee sort of is operating in
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concert with the Department of Justice in a manner that's actually deeply subversive to democratic
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processes, that this is far from anything resembling a legitimate investigation.
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And part of the reason for that is that they're not only cherry-picking their witnesses, but even
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their cherry-picked witnesses have, you know, total safe harbor to say whatever they want without any
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The Hutchinson, you know, the ridiculous Hutchinson testimony could not have happened if the witnesses
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Yeah, let me start with my cross-examined of Cassidy Hutchinson.
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Cassidy Hutchinson, who, full disclosure, was my friend.
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I would have likely asked, well, GCAS, after January 20th, when Joe Biden was the president,
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you were on your way to Palm Beach, eager and excited and devoted to Donald Trump and his
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How do you square that professional path with this, you know, strained horror you felt on
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You know, I probably would have asked her about the records and emails where she was requesting
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support from President Trump, his network, his donors, his legal assets, so that she would
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not be mistreated by a committee that she herself deemed BS.
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So I worry with Cassidy Hutchinson that it's more about vindictiveness and vengeance than
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it is about a sincerely held belief that developed on January 6th.
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Because my understanding is I'm not positive, positive, but I'm about 95 percent sure that
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among those deposed by the committee were the two individuals who have been able to speak
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directly on the scenario that Hutchinson described in her testimony.
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Namely, one of the Angle, I think his name is, or the security official, and another White
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House security official whose name I've forgotten.
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But I believe both of those people were deposed by the committee.
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So why have Hutchinson come on and tell this fabulous tale secondhand and giving it that
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she learned secondhand and now the audience, the American public, is getting thirdhand?
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If they've already deposed the people who are allegedly direct witnesses to this, why don't
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they put them on the witness stand or at the very least release the transcript of their
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interviews to the public to cross-reference to what Hutchinson's testimony is?
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And of course, if there were cross-examination, people could ask that directly.
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But I think there's so much to be said for that.
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But maybe it's best to shift to Epps right now, because we could talk about what a joke
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Well, there's a report coming out that you've written the foreword to, the January 6th report
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is there going to be Epps analysis in this document or give me the genesis here.
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There's going to be Epps analysis and much more.
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And I encourage the audience, if you like Revolver's reporting on January 6th, if you like the information
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and analysis that I give on January 6th, this is a very special opportunity because this report
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And the New Yorker, I believe, is releasing its version.
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And Skyhorse, which has published a lot of great stuff, including Robert Kennedy's amazing
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And they have me doing the introduction, much to the chagrin and even scandal of a lot of
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the left-wing press, because it's a subsidiary, Simon & Schuster.
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So they say, how could Simon & Schuster support this conspiracy theorist and whatnot?
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Order it and show Simon & Schuster that there is actually support for someone who dares to
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present the other side of the story in a reasoned and factual and highly analytical
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And so you go to Amazon right now, you can pre-order it.
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And yes, absolutely, there will be a lot of material on Epps.
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There will be material on this really bizarre pipe bomb situation.
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We haven't heard the half of all the weird stuff going on with the pipe bomb situation and
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But these are all the questions that the January 6th committee fails to explore, because they're
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so obsessively focused with this ridiculous narrative on Trump, because the idea isn't
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really to prevent another January 6th, it's to prevent another Trump presidency.
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It's not to prevent another January 6th, it's to prevent another Trump presidency.
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I mean, and really, yeah, the whole MAGA movement is now what's being impeached, right?
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When Donald Trump was elected president, they had to delegitimize that election, they had
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to start with the Russia hoax, that fizzles, Mueller flops, then they need the Ukraine thing.
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And it's the same tactics, and it's the same smear, but now, instead of being localized over
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Well, I really want to get to Epps, just two quick final points, though, on the committee
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So, Benny Thompson, who is the chair of this committee, many people don't know this, but
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I think it's worth pointing out that in his personal capacity, he actually sued Trump.
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Like, very, very shortly after January 6th, in his personal capacity, he sued Trump and
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the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys and I think Rudy Giuliani.
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And in this personal lawsuit, Benny Thompson adduced this theory whereby Trump was colluding
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with these militia groups and over to overturn the election.
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Now, leaving aside the fact that that theory is ridiculous, like, how can any committee that
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purports to be remotely objective put as the chair of the committee someone who's already
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adduced a comprehensive and elaborate theory of the case beforehand in the capacity of a
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And by the way, we've done a piece on this, but the personal lawsuit traces back very, very
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suspicious connections to our old friend Norm Eisen, who is one of the key sort of lawfare
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operatives against Trump and has been running, you know, impeachment scams against Trump since
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day one, when, like, before Trump even got into office, they were preparing this ridiculous
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And just another point about Benny Thompson is he happens to be the chair of the Homeland Security
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And it's basically the Department of Homeland Security that's tasked with implementing this
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The domestic, the Homeland Security Department was set up in the aftermath of 9-11 to go
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after Islamic terrorism, basically, or radical Islamic terrorism.
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Now, with the pretext of January 6th and the false narrative behind it, the DHS specifically
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is at the forefront of this reconfiguration of the national security state against American
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And Benny Thompson is Congress, is the DHS's stooge in Congress.
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And so I think those are just two very important conflicts of interest that sort of compound
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upon the already kind of ridiculous way in which the committee is structured that should
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drive home to any thinking individual just what a sham this operation really is.
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Insurrectionist Benny Thompson is one of my favorite episodes that we've made on the podcast.
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Benny Thompson was more than just a little sympathetic to black nationalists who moved
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to his tiny little community in Mississippi in order to set up a black ethnostate.
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There are records and documents that certainly bear that out.
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He was also sympathetic to voter fraud, the whole conspiracy that George Bush stole the
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Yes, they've been on all sides of the election denying insurrections.
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So the hidden agenda behind the New York Times Desperate Puff piece on Ray Epps, why did
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Even the New York Times, I'm surprised that just as an editorial matter, they're not a
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little bit more protective of their reputation as a, you know, ostensibly legitimate paper
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The one person caught on camera, repeatedly urging people to go into the Capitol as early
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as January 5th, is the one January 6th riot participant about whom the New York Times will
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If you read this piece, it's almost designed like these sympathy pieces for families, like
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after some kind of natural disaster who have their home and everything ruined, and they
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go to the, you know, the ruined neighborhood without all of the houses, you know, blown
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down, and they do a sympathy sort of personal profile piece.
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That's almost the kind of piece that the New York Times decided to do about Ray Epps, which
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is weird enough, but what's a scandal are the key questions that get to the core of the
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whole matter of January 6th that the piece fails to explore.
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You have access to this individual who, whatever you think about him and whatever you think about
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January 6th, this individual is, in Ray Epps' own words, at the center of it.
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He's at the center of the controversy regarding what January 6th actually was.
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And so you have access to this guy for a whole day.
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And instead of writing a piece that includes, hey, Ray Epps, are you going to give a blanket
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denial of any involvement with the federal government, with any involvement with sort of a cutout
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No, there's no blanket denial in the entire piece.
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All there is is Epps reiterating a highly legalistic denial that he presented to the January 6th
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committee through his lawyer, who just happens to be a decade veteran of the Phoenix FBI field
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office, saying that Ray Epps was never a member of law enforcement.
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And the specificity pertains to law enforcement.
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Department of Homeland Security, Joint Terrorism Task Force, military intelligence, cutouts and
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And so to be so specific in repeatedly emphasizing law enforcement in denial is, at best, a half
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And the piece doesn't push for a full denial, which is incredible.
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I've got to get to this text message you reference.
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And again, you've got to read the exclusive piece, revolver.news, the hidden agenda behind
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And what's amazing is that when there's actual sourcing, when there are actual records and
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there are actual videos, in the revolver pieces, you actually get to see the videos.
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But here, there's apparently a text message that Ray Epps sends to his nephew after the
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riot occurred, where he talks about how he helped orchestrate the movements of people
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leaving President Trump's speech at the Ellipse.
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Now, you know, by the time President Trump was done at the Ellipse, Ray Epps wasn't even
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He was already encouraging people to breach closer to the Capitol, where fencing was taken
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And again, you've got to go back and see the full Ray Epps library on a revolver to get
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But why do you think the New York Times didn't just publish the text message that they paraphrase?
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And by the way, I think the relevance of the text message is, this is part of a host of
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information that's going to further complicate the official narrative.
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And this New York Times piece, the only sensible explanation for it is that this is the, this is a
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damage control push in anticipation of more damning information pertaining to Epps.
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Because Epps is the smoking gun of the Fed's direction, they would otherwise have no interest
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in reintroducing this individual's name to the public at all.
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The only reason that would make sense is if it's getting even, even worse.
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And there are two other really key questions that are astonishingly not explored in this New
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The other one is, it calls him a Trump supporter.
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And in fact, it further elaborates that he just went to D.C. at a last minute trip with
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his son in order to hear Trump's speech on election fraud.
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The piece doesn't say that Ray Epps actually never ended up going to Trump's speech.
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So this, this alleged Trump supporter who traveled all the way to go to the speech, instead, he
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goes all the way from Arizona to D.C., does not go to the speech and instead fixates on
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this bizarre mission to get everyone to go into the Capitol to, in his own words, according
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to the text message, to orchestrate the movements of the people to the Capitol on the day of.
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And then he happens to be conveniently positioned right at the peace monument, which is the site
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of that initial and decisive breach, right before the Proud Boys even arrived there.
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And according to the official narrative, it's the Proud Boys that kicked everything off.
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So not only does he travel all that way and just not go to the speech, he happens to be
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positioned at the right place at the right time to kick off that initial breach of the Capitol.
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And the New York Times piece, the Times reporter, I'm sure knows that he didn't go to the speech
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or he should know that he didn't go to the speech.
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And instead of pointing out that he didn't go, there's nothing about it and no explanation
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as to why in Ray Epps' account, he went there to go to the speech and he ended up not going
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and instead focused on this maniacal mission to get everyone to go into the Capitol.
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And then the final and most obvious but most important question that the New York Times
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piece fails to explore, it fails to devote a single sentence to it, is, Ray Epps, where
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did you get the idea to get everyone to go into the Capitol?
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On January 5th, you were the only person saying it.
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And in fact, the idea was so outrageous, so outlandish, so out of place that the immediate
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reaction of the crowd around him was to call him a Fed.
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And yet, notwithstanding this sub-zero buying temperature of the crowd around him, he's undeterred
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and he continues to call people to go into the Capitol.
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And just as an amazing side detail, both of those real iconic times where he's telling
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people, go into the Capitol, into the Capitol, he prefaces this command by saying, I probably
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But, so he's acknowledging that he's, you know, engaging in illegal activity or at least
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encouraging others to engage in illegal activity.
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And I suppose it would be one thing if it were just some random drunk guy with a ridiculous
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And that's the last we heard of it on January 5th.
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But he follows up with this and he's everywhere January 6th, orchestrating people's movement
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He's pre-positioned at the initial breach point before the Proud Boys even get there.
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And he whispers into a guy's ear two seconds before that guy becomes one of the first people
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to break down the bike rack barricades on the west side of the Capitol.
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Well, astonishingly, they don't even ask him what his goals are.
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I mean, you would think the New York Times would start by saying, gosh, there's all this
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video of you moving people in position for a breach, you encouraging people the night
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What were you hoping to accomplish by getting people into the Capitol?
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And what I think people have to realize is that the New York Times is the comms department
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The New York Times and the deep state are linked.
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They perform different functions under the same banner.
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And you have a revolving door of individuals and information kind of swirling around with
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the Department of Justice, with the FBI, with a lot of these entities, and the New York
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And so, of course, it's the New York Times that's going to do this.
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But I've got to ask you, Dr. Beattie, we've gone over the New York Times interaction with
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Because Adam Kinzinger came out and tweeted with great bravado that the committee had spoken
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to Epps and that he'd given his sworn testimony and that that would be released.
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You know, of all the junior staffers lurking around the White House that we've heard from
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and that we may hear from tonight, kind of interesting that we haven't had one single
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clip from Ray Epps, not one release of his testimony.
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And really, like, provides some compelling context within which to digest all of this
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is that Ray Epps, whose behavior on January 5th and 6th was so egregious that he was one
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of the first 20 people put on the FBI's most wanted list for January 6th.
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And in fact, I failed to mention this, the New York Times' own video documentary on January
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6th, ominously titled Day of Rage, features Epps multiple times and narratively depicts him
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as one of the handful of rioters who plan to storm the Capitol in advance.
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The New York Times' own video documentary on it, his behavior was so egregious that he was
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cherry-picked to emphasize what a day of rage, an ominous day this was.
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And now he goes from all of that to being unarrested, unindicted, the only January 6th
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participant that Adam Kinzinger will defend, and the only January 6th participant about whom
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I don't think we're going to hear a word from him.
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I don't think we're going to see any clips of Ray Epps on tonight, the grand conclusion,
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And I think that their way of dealing with those unanswered questions was to have the
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mouthpiece of the deep state, the comms department of the deep state, the New York Times put this
00:30:21.060
But folks can always get the truth at revolver.news.
00:30:24.300
And really, I think the best thing people can do if they want both sides, if you don't
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want to be programmed, if you don't want to be manipulated by this illegitimate, partisan,
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unconstitutional, rigged process, the January 6th report forward by Dr. Darren J.
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Beattie, go get it, read it, be fully informed, and help us get the truth out.
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One entity that doesn't always help us get the truth out, Dr. Beattie, is the CIA.
00:30:50.400
And I wanted to move to another piece that you've aggregated onto revolver.news, the original
00:30:57.880
And the piece really cites the director of the CIA, William Burns, talking about the fact
00:31:07.800
Dr. Beattie, why is the head of our CIA commenting on the health of the Russian president?
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I mean, like, especially you got Biden falsely claiming he has cancer, then truthfully claiming
00:31:22.680
Like, don't we have kind of enough issues with the health of our own president to be talking
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We can rest assured that no major intelligence official of any adversary country will ever
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And if they do, we have a big problem because, you know, he's one hair's width away from, you
00:31:46.740
But yeah, it's a weird and ominous kind of thing, especially coming from an intelligence
00:31:58.600
But there is something a bit Bolton-esque, shall we say, about such a pronouncement.
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And of course, like they are intelligence officials are obsessed with Russia.
00:32:13.680
But are these guys going to sleepwalk us into a nuclear war with stupid comments like this?
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I would not have been surprised if this had come from a fool like Bolton, who's been wrong
00:32:27.660
But Burns actually has prior rhetoric that seemed considerably more reasonable.
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I mean, William Burns, our head of the CIA, warned against NATO expansion into Ukraine,
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And so if NATO expansion is provocative, saying the guy is too healthy seems to be certainly
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provocative, and we all know that the intelligence community utilizes code through the media at
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It's not always a WhatsApp, peer-to-peer digital thing.
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Sometimes there is code that is communicated with coded language.
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And I mean, to talk about the guy being too healthy, you have to wonder whether or not that means
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And I don't know if it does or if it doesn't, but like Burns was the guy saying NATO expansion
00:33:18.220
So does it surprise you to hear it come directly from him?
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And if we were to really, you know, analyze it properly, I'd want to, you know, actually
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hear exactly what he said and get the exact context of how he said it.
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But I don't think that any CIA official is really immune to this kind of dangerous rhetoric
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But it makes me believe it might be a code or it might be an op because it is, it divorces
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You know, and so when you see someone kind of wildly switch, it almost, it has a certain
00:34:08.040
Dr. Beattie, I was among 18 Republicans who voted against the United States House of Representatives
00:34:14.900
lecturing to other NATO countries that they need to accept Finland and Sweden.
00:34:20.200
I felt like it's probably good to end one war before we start the next one.
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And if there's any opportunity for us to wind down this carnage in Ukraine and to save people
00:34:29.740
from being needlessly slaughtered, we should probably do that before engaging in other provocative
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And yet only 17 of my colleagues joined me on that.
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How do you think history will view this like era of reckless, provocative NATO expansion?
00:34:46.400
Well, I think it's, it's deeply, uh, it's deeply damaging, um, not only to global stability
00:34:54.560
in that region, but it's damaging to America's position in the world because it doesn't reflect
00:35:00.920
a proper prioritization of our, um, geopolitical interests.
00:35:07.360
And I think as a matter of domestic politics, what it does is to underscore that, unfortunately,
00:35:12.700
despite all of the gains that we've gotten, uh, from the Trump phenomenon, we're better
00:35:19.640
off than we were under Bush, but still the, even the Republican party is largely under sway
00:35:28.080
And that's a very difficult teat to completely wean ourselves from because so much of the
00:35:38.000
sort of, um, mythology of American conservatism is winning the cold war with the national security
00:35:51.100
And so to fully sort of update to the reality that the national security state is not only
00:35:57.220
antithetical to America's long-term interests, but is directly hostile to, um, conservatives
00:36:05.140
in the United States, um, there's still a lot more lifting to do.
00:36:11.040
And I think we're seeing, unfortunately, part of that legacy, but also we're seeing the more
00:36:17.980
sort of crude effects of just how the national security state can wield its influence through,
00:36:24.160
um, all kinds of other, uh, you know, direct mechanisms through its money, through its institutional
00:36:35.620
I mean, uh, one comment, Puzzle Rock on Rumble.
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Matt, do Republicans have any idea how furious people are that they allowed the BS fake insurrection
00:36:47.980
And I think that a lot of voters feel this way.
00:36:50.860
And as we go into a midterm election, you have to ask yourself, what is the covenant
00:36:57.380
What is the value proposition to someone to vote for us in the midterm?
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And I think it has to be vindicating people's liberty and telling people the truth, the truth
00:37:06.520
about January 6th, the truth about the 2020 election, the truth about the coronavirus, uh,
00:37:11.880
and its origins and the truth about the vaccine.
00:37:14.000
And why it was forced on so many people with these, these, these just overbearing tools
00:37:20.260
And too often, I think the Republicans don't learn that lesson, but the American people
00:37:28.400
Look, there's as ridiculous as the whole, you know, January 6th issue seems, the stakes
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are very high and are no laughing matter at all.
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This is going to be the dominant narrative that the regime uses to fully facilitate the
00:37:44.800
reconfiguration of the national security state against us, to weaponize the national security
00:37:55.360
And given how much is at stake, it's really scandalous, not only how few Republicans are
00:38:02.240
So I have to always, you know, commend you're one of the handful of stalwarts of fire brands,
00:38:07.880
really, who's brave enough and discerning enough and intelligent enough to understand what
00:38:13.800
the stakes are and why it's important and to draw attention to this issue.
00:38:16.980
But beyond the handful of brave congressmen such as yourself, wouldn't it be worth at
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least a couple million dollars to the Republicans to blow this narrative up completely?
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Why isn't the GOP dedicating money to try to identify, for instance, the scaffold commander?
00:38:43.660
I think you're the only one who's really talked about him.
00:38:50.340
Scaffold commander is at least as damning as Epps, maybe even more so because he hasn't
00:38:59.000
And so why isn't the GOP dedicating two million, three million, five million, which is the grand
00:39:05.880
scheme of their budgets that they routinely waste on dumb stuff, nothing?
00:39:10.760
Why aren't they dedicating at least a few million dollars to definitively identifying this guy
00:39:17.240
and potentially exploding the whole narrative right in Liz Cheney's face, right in Kinscher's
00:39:25.440
The priorities here, they're not playing to win because if they were-
00:39:31.780
Right now, Republicans in Congress have an optimism that we are going to win not based on any covenant
00:39:38.640
and promise and commitment to our voters, but because the other side has gone so crazy
00:39:44.120
and has made people so uncomfortable and has made our country dirtier and poorer and less
00:39:54.280
My grave concern is not that we're going to lose the midterms.
00:39:57.300
It's we're going to win them, not understanding why, and potentially just winning them by default.
00:40:05.780
And really, the Democrats are kind of forfeiting a lot of this ground to us, but that doesn't
00:40:11.080
absolve us of our obligations to get to the truth and to actually deliver wins for our
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And that, I think, has to become a greater kind of organizing principle of the Republican
00:40:25.620
And based on what we're certainly seeing from the comments on this episode, people want
00:40:32.160
And I know one place they can always get them, revolver.news.
00:40:36.060
The scaffold commander you just mentioned, folks have got to go watch these videos that
00:40:43.540
The guy who is at the top of scaffolding with a bullhorn directing people into the Capitol
00:40:50.860
and just yelling at them to charge on has faced no consequence.
00:40:56.100
But Peter Navarro has been in leg shackles and John Eastman got, like, you know, patted down
00:41:04.260
So, like, a trade advisor and a lawyer have faced, like, extreme criminal process and the
00:41:10.560
guy at the top of a scaffold yelling people into the Capitol, absolutely nothing.
00:41:18.700
Because what you see from the January 6th committee from the New York Times is a cover-up.
00:41:23.980
They're always accusing us of the stuff that they're doing.
00:41:28.020
In the Russia hoax, they accused Trump of being a Russian asset.
00:41:30.820
Well, it was actually Hillary colluding with the Russians and spreading the Russians' lies.
00:41:35.040
And now on January 6th, they say, oh, the Republicans are trying to, you know, disrupt our politics
00:41:41.220
What threatens our democracy is a national security state that is turned against a movement
00:41:50.060
You've got to get the January 6th report forward by Dr. Beattie.
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It is the only way you are going to be fully apprised of both sides of this, fully educated,
00:42:02.120
Dr. Beattie, how can folks continue to follow your work on social media?
00:42:06.180
And what platforms have you not been banned from?
00:42:13.300
If anyone listening to this hasn't seen our response piece to the New York Times-Ray Epps
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janitorial mop-up attempt, go to revolver.news.
00:42:26.840
And it has that video, which really speaks for itself when it comes to Ray Epps.
00:42:31.100
The New York Times piece says it was selectively edited.
00:42:34.320
Maybe the Times should present the full video and see if that helps their case or hurts their
00:42:39.780
So all the video is on the revolver.news piece.
00:42:44.480
Other than that, I'm on Twitter at Darren J. Beattie.
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And as you mentioned, I encourage everyone to go to Amazon.
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Find the copy of the January 6th committee report with introduction by me.
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Not the New Yorker version, which is just going to repeat Benny Thompson's cliff notes.
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Go and get the Skyhorse version and get a copy for your friends, too, because I think
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every American deserves to know the truth about January 6th.
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