The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - Episode 64 LIVE： Truth Bombs (feat. Rep. Devin Nunes) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

00:00:01.000 The embattled Congressman Matt Gaetz.

00:00:03.000 Matt Gaetz was one of the very few members in the entire Congress

00:00:06.000 who bothered to stand up against permanent Washington on behalf of his constituents.

00:00:10.000 Matt Gaetz right now, he's a problem for the Democratic Party.

00:00:13.000 He could cause a lot of hiccups in passing the clause.

00:00:16.000 So we're going to keep running those stories to keep hurting him.

00:00:20.000 If you stand for the flag and kneel in prayer,

00:00:23.000 if you want to build America up and not burn her to the ground,

00:00:27.000 then welcome, my fellow patriots. You are in the right place.

00:00:31.000 This is the movement for you.

00:00:33.000 You ever watch this guy on television?

00:00:35.000 It's like a machine. Matt Gaetz.

00:00:38.000 I'm a canceled man in some corners of the Internet.

00:00:41.000 Many days I'm a marked man in Congress, a wanted man by the deep state.

00:00:46.000 They aren't really coming for me. They're coming for you.

00:00:50.000 I'm just in the way.

00:00:52.000 Welcome to Firebrand.

00:00:57.000 We are simulcast streaming live from 1721 of the House Office Building in Longworth in Washington, D.C.

00:01:04.000 Democrats are scurrying now to get an assault weapons ban together for a vote

00:01:09.000 before Congress recesses for the month of August.

00:01:12.000 I'm going to give you the updates on that, the key arguments.

00:01:15.000 But we have a very special guest on Firebrand, Congressman Devin Nunes,

00:01:20.000 former congressman, I should say, now CEO of the Trump Media Group.

00:01:25.000 Devin Nunes won the, I don't know if you won or you get awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom

00:01:30.000 during President Trump's tenure.

00:01:32.000 He was chairman of the Intelligence Committee.

00:01:34.000 He's got a lot to say about what the future of the Internet, digital interactions,

00:01:39.000 social interactions will look like, and he is helping to shape that future.

00:01:42.000 Devin, thanks so much for joining us.

00:01:44.000 Matt, it's great to be with you.

00:01:45.000 I think I was on your podcast in the early days when you first started it.

00:01:49.000 Now you're like all professional now, man.

00:01:51.000 You've got a chair.

00:01:52.000 You've got a professional mic.

00:01:53.000 You've got your live streaming.

00:01:55.000 It's great.

00:01:56.000 You're coming a long ways, man.

00:01:58.000 Well, you understand the importance of breaking through the fake news.

00:02:02.000 And I think it's just terrific that we have these avenues to be able to do it.

00:02:06.000 But you've been a big part of building out that ecosystem.

00:02:09.000 You've taken on as your mission in life.

00:02:10.000 But before we get to truth and big tech and all the work you're doing,

00:02:15.000 you were chairman of the Intelligence Committee at a critical time.

00:02:19.000 And you saw information that no one else gets to see.

00:02:23.000 And you were able to make assessments and share viewpoints on things

00:02:26.000 that really informed how Congress viewed challenges that we face here in our country and abroad.

00:02:32.000 So I wanted to ask you just with all of that experience, all that work you've done,

00:02:36.000 what do you view as the greatest external threat to the United States?

00:02:41.000 Well, I think it's actually the Department of Justice.

00:02:46.000 And I really and I say that sadly, but it's just become it's impossible not to bring up now, Matt.

00:02:55.000 I mean, you know, we had, you know, through the Russia hoax dealing with the Department of Justice,

00:02:59.000 dealing with all the intelligence agencies.

00:03:01.000 I think it was, you know, we were just at the tip of the iceberg and it's just gotten worse and worse and worse about how weaponized the entire Department of Justice has become along and then using the intelligence agencies to destroy the United States of America.

00:03:17.000 And of course, when I say they're weaponized by the left.

00:03:20.000 So, you know, your your colleagues, I guarantee you, are working hand in glove with the Department of Justice, coordinating with the executive branch.

00:03:28.000 And sadly, it's leaked over to the judicial branch of government also where, you know, almost anything that has to do with the Republican.

00:03:36.000 If it becomes if it comes to a Democrat appointed federal judge almost all the time, it's going to be a very political decision.

00:03:46.000 And the Republicans are going to be treated much differently than the Democrats are being treated.

00:03:50.000 So, look, I'll tell you, you know, China is clearly the external external threat, but we're rotting from within. 0.98

00:03:58.000 And as you know, it's why I why I left Congress is because we couldn't even communicate with one another, much less, you know, fight on, you know, kind of the battle for ideas and have a fair process in whether it be the legislative branch that you and I, you know, served together in for so many years.

00:04:15.000 So and look, I, you know, I ultimately I kind of came on to this early because, you know, I was vilified as some, you know, some type of, you know, Russian agent.

00:04:24.000 And, you know, nobody in the government stood up, you know, and said that that was BS.

00:04:29.000 It was also fake. It was fake from the beginning.

00:04:32.000 And you really were the clarion voice in the wilderness.

00:04:36.000 I remember the days when you first learned that our own government had been weaponized against the Trump campaign and what establishment Washington wanted you to do.

00:04:46.000 Probably what a lot of Republicans wanted you to do was just sit on that information, allow our political system to be attacked using our own taxpayer dollars and depriving us of our political freedoms of speech and association.

00:04:59.000 And you went and told President Trump that there was this intelligence collection going that that was targeting his campaign.

00:05:06.000 You know, now that you've had the benefit of hindsight, now that we the debate is over about the Russia hoax, that was always fake from the beginning.

00:05:15.000 It lacked a predicate to justify the actions that were taken.

00:05:19.000 But as you look back at that moment, when you literally went over to the White House and told President Trump the truth, what how did how did you go through that decision?

00:05:28.000 What were the factors you weighed knowing that that would make you a pariah with the media and with a lot of establishment Washington?

00:05:35.000 Well, look, there's a lot of moving parts here.

00:05:37.000 So on one hand, that only had one aspect to do what we were investigating at the time.

00:05:41.000 And, you know, I knew right from the start that the Russia hoax was a hoax because, number one, I was the one who had been sounding the alarm on Russia all through 2014 and 15 and 16.

00:05:54.000 So think about this in the spring of 16.

00:05:57.000 I go out and say that the biggest intelligence failure since 9-11 by our intelligence agencies.

00:06:03.000 I'm the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. OK, when this happens.

00:06:07.000 So the biggest failure is our inability to understand Putin's plans and intentions and to just to take the viewers and listeners back to that time period.

00:06:17.000 This is when Putin was just having his way with Obama and Biden and do anything he wanted.

00:06:21.000 Remember, green men came down. Planes were being shot out of the out of the sky in Ukraine.

00:06:26.000 They took over Crimea. You had all the situation in Libya and Syria.

00:06:31.000 And finally, I just had enough. And it was very unusual for me at that time, because, as you know, that used to be that that committee worked quietly.

00:06:38.000 You only heard from us when there was a terrorist attack or something.

00:06:41.000 And I took this unusual step in the spring of 2016 to say, hey, guys, we got a problem here.

00:06:47.000 And I always say that. Thank God that I actually had went on to out to the media.

00:06:52.000 I had written about it. I had talked about it. I actually had some interviews on on CNN because think about that timing.

00:06:59.000 That was right when Obama, the DOJ were all cooking up and the Clinton campaign were cooking up the Russia hoax.

00:07:06.000 And they were activating all sorts of federal assets and campaign assets all working together to launch and invest a fake and phony investigation.

00:07:15.000 And I think had it not been for me actually saying that at that time, not knowing any of the Russia hoax that was going on, you know, it's clear when I when I actually called BS on this, they would have targeted me.

00:07:27.000 But they couldn't because I was you know, I had too much in writing. I had been too critical of the intelligence agencies.

00:07:33.000 I think they really didn't want to touch it. I think when I say that, I think because I do think there were a time when when even Trump appointed officials were playing games with me during that time.

00:07:44.000 And that was only a small sliver because what happened when I went to the White House, that was really about what we knew was illegal.

00:07:52.000 And that was how in the hell did General Flynn's phone calls with the Russian ambassador leak out all across Washington transcripts of that?

00:08:01.000 I mean, that's you know, to me, that was you know, that was a fire alarm that said, oh, my God, we've just had a major leak.

00:08:08.000 And I couldn't figure out why isn't the FBI sending out thousands of agents we just had.

00:08:13.000 And then it wasn't shortly after the Flynn leak. Then we had the leak of President Trump talking to the Mexican president, President Trump talking the Australian ambassador.

00:08:23.000 So that was just one small issue that I was looking at at that time that but it's they're willing to leak that stuff, Devin, because they actually think that the permanent bureaucratic class, what some people call the deep state, that they ought to run the country.

00:08:38.000 And that the people who are elected, they ought to just be actors playing out a script that is designed by them as the central brokers and keepers of power.

00:08:48.000 You mentioned something really important. I want to pull the thread on you.

00:08:51.000 You talked about the DOJ, the FBI and the Clinton campaign together cooking up the Russia hoax.

00:08:57.000 Now, I've been very critical of the Durham investigation because Durham seems to cast the FBI and the DOJ as the victim.

00:09:05.000 Oh, no, is he's people like Michael Sussman. It was the Clinton campaign lying to us.

00:09:10.000 And we were victimized by those lies, whereas I seem to think that you had them acting in concert, playing different roles in the same conspiracy.

00:09:19.000 You had the Clinton campaign working up the political opposition research, the dirt.

00:09:24.000 And then you had the FBI and the DOJ processing that through authorized leaks so that you would get these blistering stories in the mainstream media that Trump was a Russian agent.

00:09:35.000 I was Putin's lawyer. You were compromised. All this stuff that was nonsense, but it was it was part and parcel with an FBI DOJ strategy.

00:09:43.000 Do you think that Durham has been, you know, sincere in his prosecution or is the entire Durham endeavor just something to absolve the FBI and the DOJ of their actions?

00:09:55.000 Well, look, I've been very supportive of Durham. And here's why I you know, I'm really just going off of kind of instinct and my experience, you know, dealing with all these characters.

00:10:06.000 And that is that this is the first investigation since since even before I came to Washington, but paying attention to politics where there hasn't been one leak.

00:10:16.000 And I've always thought that that is very professional. And and if you look at the things that he's brought out and brought to light, he clearly knows what happened.

00:10:25.000 I actually look, we may not know until all that till till, you know, the Durham investigation.

00:10:30.000 I mean, we have a trial coming up with Danchenko, the author or the the guy who's supposedly the Russian agent that supplied the dossier information to Christopher Steele, which then, of course, made it to the papers.

00:10:41.820 And the guy was just a thank tank guy living outside of Washington, D.C.

00:10:47.020 I believe that the Sussman. This is just my gut, Matt. 1.00

00:10:52.360 I believe that Durham thought that Sussman would cooperate.

00:10:57.620 And, you know, Sussman probably didn't want to end up at the bottom of the Potomac.

00:11:01.200 So he rolled the dice and said, well, I think, you know, we're going to go for it.

00:11:06.960 We'll get a jury that's 95 percent Trump haters and we'll roll the dice and see if we can get this done.

00:11:13.220 And I'm sure if not, he probably would have been pardoned by Biden, you know, had he been prosecuted.

00:11:17.540 But I think Durham probably went thinking that, OK, Sussman's the guy.

00:11:22.120 He was the gatekeeper. He knows everything that happened here.

00:11:24.860 And if we threaten it, you know, if he could possibly go to jail for five years, maybe he will talk.

00:11:31.060 And that's ultimately how you get the bad actors, the dirty cops at the DOJ and the FBI.

00:11:35.840 But that failed. And I think that's a larger problem.

00:11:39.240 You know, we opened up with, you know, with what do I think the biggest problem in the U.S. is?

00:11:43.600 You asked external, but I really think it's it's really internal.

00:11:47.080 And that is that it's a sad state of affairs.

00:11:49.560 I guarantee you, had you or I been prosecuted in Washington, D.C. for exactly the same thing, we would the jury would have deliberated, Matt, for about just long enough to sign whatever documentation they would have.

00:12:03.260 Listen, if we could be convicted of abducting the Lindbergh baby, we could be convicted of killing Jimmy Hoffa inside of Washington, D.C.

00:12:12.900 And everybody knows it. And that is part of the parlance.

00:12:16.380 That is part of the game that the DOJ plays in order to be the enforcement wing of the Democratic Party.

00:12:22.740 It is likely that Republicans will take control of the Congress following the midterm elections.

00:12:28.080 I believe that Nancy Pelosi will step aside as leader.

00:12:31.200 And I am already watching your former colleague, my current colleague, Adam Schiff, campaign among the Democrats to lead their caucus.

00:12:39.300 He certainly wants to be the lead on the Intelligence Committee.

00:12:42.600 If that doesn't work out for him, how would you deal with Adam Schiff if you were the Republican leader, the Republican speaker?

00:12:50.320 Would you allow him to serve on committees and how how much of a threat is Adam Schiff to the country?

00:12:55.660 Well, the thing that I'm thinking of, Matt, right off the top of my head is that how could they possibly elect what I at least what I know of a straight white Jewish guy as their leader?

00:13:10.920 I mean, have you not been painted?

00:13:12.600 I mean, you know, I think part of their doctrine is all the CRT, critical race theory, BLM.

00:13:18.200 Listen, I think that for the power and the ambition, Adam Schiff might transition.

00:13:22.160 You never know.

00:13:22.780 So he could you mean he might just become a girl and that way he would fit the under he would fit one of the categories. 0.99

00:13:29.640 He'd be one ugly woman. 1.00

00:13:30.580 But but I I don't know. 0.99

00:13:32.940 I know he's an ambitious guy.

00:13:34.980 Some have said he shouldn't be allowed to serve on the Intelligence Committee, given the damage that he did to that committee in politicizing it and lying in mischaracterizing intelligence.

00:13:44.920 If you were the Republican leader, would you allow Adam Schiff on the Intelligence Committee?

00:13:48.180 No, no, no, I would.

00:13:49.300 And I think there's several of those guys that don't belong on there.

00:13:52.420 But I think there's a bigger there's a bigger challenge that you guys are going to have.

00:13:56.220 And that is that I don't know how you guys can conduct you when I say the Republicans would be able to conduct the type of investigation that needs to that has to happen under the current kind of confines of how of, you know, the typical committees, Intelligence Committee, Judiciary Committee.

00:14:17.600 You know, we had enough challenges with that over the years with probably one of the only real successful congressional investigations in modern history was the one that that that I ran that, you know, that you participated in.

00:14:29.100 And I think what the type of investigating that has to occur here, you have to look at the Congress in the House will have to look at all this crap that probably started in 2015 from the Russia hoax to the Ukraine hoax to the Hunter Biden laptop to the coordination with the big tech companies to what happened on January 6th, what happened in Michigan.

00:14:52.880 The entire Department of Justice has to be completely turned upside down and looked into.

00:14:59.680 And you guys are going to have to figure out a way on how to conduct that information, because look, does that does that way mean excluding Democrats from committees?

00:15:07.720 Does that way mean the Republican leader appointing the Democrats to the committees?

00:15:11.960 Like what what is that? What is the tactical move you suggest so that we're able to endeavor on the important work you've called?

00:15:17.720 I mean, it may it it even could it even could look, it needs to at a minimum be a special committee, I think.

00:15:25.020 And now that Pelosi has created, you know, unprecedented, you know, in our 200, nearly 250 year history of deciding what minority members can and cannot serve on a committee.

00:15:37.360 Would you do that, though? Would you would you run? Would you run the Democrats play back back at them?

00:15:44.140 Look, I think not only it's not about the playbook, it's that I've dealt with leftists out here.

00:15:49.300 This is not the Democratic Party. These are not, you know, southern old Democrats from, you know, the panhandle of Florida or like I used to have here in the San Joaquin Valley.

00:15:58.060 Those people are gone. They've been replaced by Marxists that are very, very dangerous.

00:16:02.860 And I've watched what's happened here in the state of California. And if you don't watch it across the rest of the country, this is going to happen.

00:16:09.080 The only thing that makes these guys move is pain and extreme political pain, because, as you know, with the propaganda machine that they have, they will just turn.

00:16:20.260 I mean, you know, they can say I've never seen people so soulless that they'll look outside.

00:16:27.320 I don't know if it's, you know, raining or hot or muggy or what it is in Washington, D.C. right now.

00:16:33.720 But they will look outside the window at high noon and they will say, my God, it's the middle of the night.

00:16:41.600 And then the news media will say, yes, it's definitely the middle of the night.

00:16:44.400 And Matt Gaetz says, well, no, I see the sun out my window.

00:16:48.000 Matt Gaetz is this and that. Let's get Department of Justice to go after him.

00:16:51.620 I mean, that's what we're doing.

00:16:53.340 A midnight denier. A daytime truther. Speaking of truth.

00:16:57.080 So I think seriously, though, you guys are going to have to look at some type of special commission of some kind that that basically takes what Pelosi did with the corruption side of it,

00:17:12.940 but actually turn it on its head and do a real do real work and only allow real people on it.

00:17:18.540 And you have to dissect the DOJ, all the intelligence agencies.

00:17:22.440 You know, you're going to have the problems with your Merrick Garland and whoever's running that shop over there.

00:17:27.700 I mean, the fact that none of us like that, that and I've said this from the beginning with Jan 6, Matt.

00:17:34.380 I want the people who broke the windows to be prosecuted.

00:17:38.260 I want the people that broke into the Senate chamber to be prosecuted.

00:17:42.140 I want the people that planted the pipe bombs to be prosecuted.

00:17:45.900 I still don't know who the hell those people are other than the Viking dude, you know, that I you know,

00:17:50.200 that wasn't even a Republican that got in in there that day.

00:17:53.180 But I mean, they are prosecuting people.

00:17:55.480 They're leaving them in jail. 0.97

00:17:57.280 They're prosecuting people that weren't even that didn't even enter the Capitol.

00:18:01.740 They're redefining laws, terrorism laws and other laws.

00:18:06.240 So so look, this is that we're in the in the middle of a dark chapter of American history that started in 15 and 16 with the Russia hoax. 0.67

00:18:14.300 And it's continued all the way.

00:18:15.880 I mean, you know, look, I just I just want to know, you know, now that I'm I'm sitting outside and not a member of Congress and you is as since I'm part time in Florida now, Matt, you're in my congressional delegation.

00:18:27.780 I just want to know who the hell Ray Epps is.

00:18:30.320 Right.

00:18:31.500 Well, tell me who he is.

00:18:33.240 Well, I think that why why didn't he get arrested?

00:18:36.040 I mean, this is this is this is madness.

00:18:38.420 Yes. The undeniable headline of this discussion is Devin Nunes, presidential Medal of Freedom winner and former intelligence chairman, says the Republicans have to turn DOJ on their head and dissect them when we take power and that we're going to have to use some of the tools that we've seen on display that the Democrats have used.

00:18:56.880 We have to have that in our toolkit and we have to assemble a way to do it now to get the truth out, you know, better than just about anyone in the world, the headwinds we face from big government, big media and big tech.

00:19:10.300 And so you left Congress to go and endeavor to make the Internet a free, open place for people to exchange ideas without some Woketopian in Silicon Valley shadow banning or muting or just limiting the delivery of data.

00:19:26.800 What is the Devin Nunes vision for the future of the Internet and social and digital interactions there?

00:19:33.240 Yeah. So I left Congress for one reason, one reason only.

00:19:36.660 And I knew a lot about the shadow ban.

00:19:38.580 I was one of the first guys to be shadow banned by these big tech companies.

00:19:42.200 I was the first guy to go to parlor.

00:19:44.160 I was the first guy to go on to rumble.

00:19:46.900 And, you know, I watched that.

00:19:49.640 And kind of what really was the turning point for me was when in 2020 I saw polls that still showed that over half of America believed that Trump and Republicans had something to do with Russia.

00:20:04.720 And I said, how the hell is that possible?

00:20:09.480 And of course, you know, we saw the Hunter Biden laptop story that was that was completely buried.

00:20:15.640 I mean, so real things happened later.

00:20:17.720 We found out that Mark Zuckerberg put in four hundred and nineteen million dollars, which, by the way, that also needs to be investigated by you guys.

00:20:25.980 It's probably not under the DOJ realm, but it's somewhere else.

00:20:28.800 That's got to be completely pulled apart.

00:20:31.660 I mean, four hundred and nineteen million dollars.

00:20:33.620 I mean, maybe in Washington, D.C. terms, it doesn't sound like a lot of money.

00:20:37.080 But in political terms, it's real money.

00:20:40.740 You know where we do we do vote harvesting now in California.

00:20:44.460 Remember, I told you like how Marx Marxist just completely destroy the system.

00:20:49.180 Yeah.

00:20:49.300 So we had to do vote harvesting.

00:20:51.600 It's it's it's sadly it's legal in California to vote harvesting.

00:20:55.540 I don't know, Matt, how you could possibly spend four hundred and nineteen million dollars in those 10 swing states, you know, like like he did.

00:21:04.340 And so the bottom line is when President Trump called and said, you know, will you come and do this?

00:21:10.840 You know, I had been around the country.

00:21:12.500 I knew these problems.

00:21:13.560 I had told people that this was the most important issue at the highest level, which is our our inability to even communicate with one one another.

00:21:22.040 And, you know, you can't it's it's you know, it's basic it's basic warfare where you're fighting, whether you're fighting a kinetic war or a propaganda war like we're in right now.

00:21:31.460 If you can't communicate with one another, you're dead and you and you die.

00:21:36.180 And if if truth wasn't there, I will tell you, you know, the world would be a very, very dark place.

00:21:43.540 We have millions of Americans now on the platform.

00:21:46.180 We now just opened up in the UK, you know, and we've only been out.

00:21:50.740 We're not even fully launched yet because we're not even on the Google Play Store yet.

00:21:56.000 So we're in the Apple App Store.

00:21:57.900 You can go to truth social dot com and get an account, even if you have an Android.

00:22:01.140 But and folks can follow you at Devin Nunes on truth.

00:22:04.880 They can follow me at rep Matt Gates on truth.

00:22:08.140 And, you know, I've really enjoyed the experience.

00:22:10.600 A lot of folks that I follow and I want to see what they're reading and talking about and thinking about.

00:22:16.200 And one thing I really appreciated about truth is that if you link to external research, your post isn't discriminated against.

00:22:23.980 Like on Twitter, they discriminate against any post that doesn't keep people totally glued and addicted to their platform.

00:22:31.520 And I think truth, you know, is more of a of a jumping off point to being able to look at the clips you want to look at for that day or read the articles you want for that day.

00:22:41.520 If someone's not on truth right now, what are they missing, Devin?

00:22:45.680 Look, we're the only place that doesn't censor for political purposes and we can't be canceled.

00:22:51.120 Right. So we're on we're operating on the rumble cloud.

00:22:54.320 You know, look, we want to we want to a lot of people compare us to Twitter, but I don't care about Twitter.

00:22:59.900 You know, a lot of we got a lot of those questions.

00:23:01.580 In fact, President Trump and I both said, look, you know, if Elon Musk wants to buy Twitter, go ahead.

00:23:06.140 But, you know, normal Americans really aren't on on Twitter.

00:23:09.040 It's basically a glorified PR wire on the Internet for celebrities, Hollywood types and and, you know, journalists and corporations.

00:23:20.120 But there are foreign governments.

00:23:21.680 That's that that's the essence of Twitter.

00:23:24.380 Yeah, foreign governments.

00:23:26.060 Good point.

00:23:27.240 But it's not a place that people go to social networks.

00:23:30.280 So Instagram has real users.

00:23:32.620 Facebook declining, but still has real users.

00:23:35.220 TikTok is on the upswing.

00:23:36.940 So what we're trying to do is take the best of all those platforms, make it simple to use, very intuitive.

00:23:43.140 We only have our we're only at five features of the 10 features that we hope to get built this year.

00:23:48.580 And so when you mentioned, you know, the time, you know, the timeline and, you know, we just don't censor.

00:23:54.080 So if Matt, if you put something on right now on the truth and I come in and put something on two minutes later, that's going to be the order.

00:24:02.000 You'll see my post and you'll see your post.

00:24:04.480 And look, we don't allow illegal activity.

00:24:07.040 We try to keep all the bots off, all the spam off.

00:24:09.460 So you're not going to get what you typically get on the other accounts.

00:24:12.080 And I think at the end of the day, we're like that safe place where, you know, we're not going to steal your data and sell it.

00:24:18.120 We're not going to shadow ban you.

00:24:19.960 We're not going to kick you off.

00:24:21.140 We're always going to have that timeline.

00:24:23.040 That's just going to be a timeline that you'll be able to go to that's in real time.

00:24:26.560 And then there's other features.

00:24:28.060 Like, I don't know if you've seen the new feature build out that we launched three weeks ago, Matt.

00:24:31.480 But now we have a scroll at the top where you can actually go in and the people that you that you follow and interact with the most, they pop up on there.

00:24:39.420 So it's very easy.

00:24:41.020 We're trying we've we've accomplished it, keeping it easy to use.

00:24:45.320 And hopefully with the new features we build out, it'll it'll be even better.

00:24:48.520 And look, our our goal has been very simple.

00:24:50.880 Hey, we have a question.

00:24:51.740 We have a question, Devin.

00:24:52.740 Someone's asking about Android and truth.

00:24:55.320 What's the Android experience like?

00:24:58.000 So we are.

00:24:59.260 So you can like I said, you can go to truth social dot com and you can bookmark it and get it on your Android.

00:25:05.300 But what so it's a web.

00:25:06.700 It's a web system you have to use on Android.

00:25:09.260 That's correct.

00:25:09.940 And so what people want to want to want is they want us to be in the Google Play Store.

00:25:14.560 So and we are we're waiting on Google to approve it.

00:25:18.740 I mean, that's that's where we're at.

00:25:20.240 And, you know, we are uncancelable except for two places.

00:25:24.940 And that is Apple App Store.

00:25:27.820 We've got to be there in the Google Play Store.

00:25:30.120 Those and we can't get around that.

00:25:31.820 You know, there's no way for, you know, we don't have enough money or time in the world to go develop a whole new phone system operating system.

00:25:38.960 And so those two companies have, you know, essentially the entire market.

00:25:43.780 So, look, the answer is, is, you know, they could approve us today if they wanted to.

00:25:50.380 And so we've got we've got our hopefully they will.

00:25:52.280 We've got a lot of our Rumble listeners talking about how much they enjoy truth.

00:25:56.340 Truth Social today is busy, busy frenzy Friday, says one of our viewers.

00:26:01.660 And another suggests that we ban tick tock.

00:26:04.740 You know, you you seem to be a person right at the intersection of intelligence and big tech.

00:26:09.700 Is tick tock a threat to national security, being that all that data ends up with the Chinese Communist Party?

00:26:15.100 Yeah, I mean, absolutely it is.

00:26:18.080 You know, and I think it's also dangerous as to the out in the long run, the types of algorithms that they can put into there that can actually begin to poison our young people.

00:26:28.100 And that's what I'm really worried about.

00:26:29.660 And that, you know, I've got I've got three young daughters.

00:26:34.560 You know, it's a it's a challenge just to keep off.

00:26:37.360 They have iPads.

00:26:38.200 You know, we try to, you know, at night we try to make them put them away right now.

00:26:43.140 They're really not too happy with with us because they got them taken away for the last week.

00:26:48.860 So it's it's a challenge.

00:26:50.420 And you can imagine we don't let them be on tick tock, but you can imagine that what's happening to children, how they're being poisoned.

00:26:56.500 So it's not just the data and it's really the data that then you can take AI, build algorithms to then carry messages.

00:27:05.020 I mean, imagine the damage if the Chinese really wanted to, that they could inflict on this country by just inundating our young people. 1.00

00:27:12.320 And they probably are already doing it or look and maybe it's just such a sewer pit.

00:27:17.200 The Chinese don't have to do anything anyway.

00:27:19.080 But in the long run, it's it's a real problem.

00:27:21.560 I mean, all of China, I worry about giving the Chinese Communist Party an intelligence collection vector into every American home, you know, into the life of every American family. 0.92

00:27:32.080 And I think the American people need to realize what a threat tick tock is.

00:27:35.980 Truth Social is a great alternative, a great way to interact with folks.

00:27:39.280 Congressman Devin Nunes is the CEO, Presidential Medal of Freedom winner and the former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

00:27:47.740 Devin, thank you so much for joining me here on Firebrand.

00:27:50.700 And we wish you the best of luck in your endeavors.

00:27:53.040 I will, Matt.

00:27:53.520 One more and one more thing.

00:27:54.720 I don't know if you know this, but just because it fits the work you do and you should talk about this.

00:27:59.480 But John Rich, country star, music star, a week ago launched.

00:28:05.980 He doesn't have a record label.

00:28:08.060 Nobody would play his song Progress.

00:28:10.020 He launched it on Truth Social and put the video on Rumble.

00:28:13.420 It's now been number one for eight days straight.

00:28:16.700 Nice.

00:28:17.580 So to all the Rumble listeners that are listening now, thank you for the support.

00:28:21.900 I think it just goes to show you, even though we're really on our infancy, we really haven't even fully launched.

00:28:27.560 And yet we have carried, we are beating the left at their own game.

00:28:32.840 I mean, John Rich is a talented guy.

00:28:34.440 The song is great.

00:28:35.400 But the fact that that song got banned and isn't being played by anyone. 0.61

00:28:39.680 And Matt, I don't know if you've heard the song, but, you know, it's not like it's a Joe Biden sucks and Trump is great and Republicans are the best.

00:28:47.460 The song doesn't say that.

00:28:48.660 It's just it's an artistic song about his feelings about the country now.

00:28:52.040 It doesn't even use the word Republican or Democrat.

00:28:54.640 It's absolutely madness.

00:28:56.340 That probably makes it more dangerous because it just is talking about comments and stuff.

00:29:00.640 And that's what the left really can't combat.

00:29:02.620 Yeah.

00:29:03.500 Well, John Rich, the song's progress.

00:29:05.680 We'll encourage everyone to take a listen.

00:29:06.920 Yeah.

00:29:07.080 I just want to make sure I said that to all the folks on Rumble.

00:29:10.060 Thanks for making that number one.

00:29:11.240 And Matt, thanks for all the work that you did during the dark days of the Russia hoax.

00:29:15.780 You were always there as a fighter.

00:29:17.440 And I'll always appreciate it.

00:29:18.940 And good luck, man.

00:29:20.140 Good luck with the deep state there.

00:29:21.740 Let me know if I can help.

00:29:22.640 All right.

00:29:23.000 You always can.

00:29:23.620 And Devin Nunes, thanks for joining us on Firebrand.

00:29:25.660 Thanks, Matt.

00:29:28.340 We are here live in the Longworth office building.

00:29:32.640 And right now, I want to give everyone a key update regarding what's happening on the House floor.

00:29:38.300 We've got H.R. 1808, the assault weapons ban of 2022.

00:29:42.940 Now, this is legislation that was up in the House Judiciary Committee.

00:29:46.440 And one of the things I found most offensive about this assault weapons ban, other than the abject attack on our Constitution that it clearly is, they exempt government federal bureaucrats.

00:29:59.320 Now, I guess you could understand the FBI or entities that have real law enforcement needs and capabilities.

00:30:07.140 But this bill preserves assault weapons, weapons of war, as the Democrats call them, for the Department of Education, for the IRS, for the Department of Agriculture.

00:30:20.940 And it shows that they're actually not really against firearms.

00:30:25.360 They're against you having them.

00:30:27.460 And a lot of Democrats don't understand the principal value of the Second Amendment, to curate a balance between the government and free people that nurtures liberty and that does not allow tyranny.

00:30:39.280 And so before the August recess, they're trying to get this bill to the floor.

00:30:43.780 They're rushing it through.

00:30:45.300 We've got folks battling it out to try to get at least some amendments into the debate and discussion so that we can show the American people that this version of the Democratic Party is a gun-grabbing party, a freedom-squelching party.

00:31:00.080 I had a debate on this subject in the House Judiciary Committee recently.

00:31:03.600 Take a listen.

00:31:04.080 We warned the country.

00:31:07.860 We said, look, they're coming for your guns with these active shooter alert bills and red flag bills.

00:31:13.300 And they said, no, no, no, we're not coming for your guns.

00:31:16.160 We just want reasonable regulations.

00:31:18.140 And now we get proven right.

00:31:20.300 They are coming for your guns.

00:31:22.120 They're listing them out in this extensive legislation to try to show people precisely what they ought to be afraid of.

00:31:29.860 And there's nothing to fear from Americans who are lawfully and responsibly using firearms.

00:31:39.660 Punishing law-abiding gun owners.

00:31:41.820 That is the Democrat agenda today.

00:31:43.860 And we are fighting against it in committee, on the floor, certainly with the vote that we can cast on behalf of the great people of Florida's first congressional district.

00:31:51.940 Now, you heard Devin Nunes recently talk about the need to really dissect the corruption that we see in the deep state.

00:32:01.360 And he would know, as the former chairman of the Intelligence Committee, just yesterday, we had the head of the National Security Division of the Department of Justice before the Judiciary Committee.

00:32:12.660 I had a series of very thorough questions.

00:32:15.680 I didn't get a whole lot of answers.

00:32:18.240 Take a listen.

00:32:18.660 You won't tell me whether or not our own government was out there trying to operate through a cutout to buy software that spies on Americans illegally and improperly.

00:32:31.120 You won't tell me whether or not the legal wing of the Democratic Party was passing you information that was actually opposition research,

00:32:38.340 then to be recategorized and repackaged as national security information.

00:32:42.200 And you won't tell me whether the president of the United States has compromised when we know he's lying.

00:32:47.380 I mean, like Joe Biden came out and said repeatedly that he never talked to Hunter Biden about business.

00:32:53.720 And here you have 14 documented meetings.

00:32:56.740 It's like, are you guys ever going to investigate this?

00:32:58.720 Or is it just going to be what Mr. Tebalt said, what Mr. Grassley said?

00:33:04.360 And that is that you guys are basically political shills.

00:33:07.020 I mean, look, this is what Mr. Grassley said.

00:33:09.260 If these allegations are true and accurate, the Justice Department and FBI are and have been institutionally corrupted to their very core,

00:33:16.360 to the point at which the United States Congress and the American people will have no confidence in the equal application of the law.

00:33:21.980 Can't you see that's what your behavior is continuing to just metastasize?

00:33:27.000 So we don't conduct our investigations in public.

00:33:30.840 Yeah, you leak them.

00:33:31.700 That's what you do.

00:33:32.340 And we take...

00:33:32.900 You leak them to try to scare people.

00:33:33.700 The gentleman's time has expired.

00:33:35.000 You may answer the question.

00:33:35.960 We take care that the assertions we make about facts are based on facts and evidence and are not reckless and false.

00:33:42.600 Well, go...

00:33:43.080 And that is the way...

00:33:43.720 The gentleman's time has expired.

00:33:44.780 This isn't reckless.

00:33:45.300 And you're just choosing not to investigate it because it's the Bidens.

00:33:47.960 We are going to have a lot more information on the podcast in the coming weeks regarding the oversight work that has to happen from the United States Congress

00:33:59.520 and the information we've already pieced together regarding the Biden trips, Joe Biden taking Hunter to China.

00:34:07.200 And then lo and behold, one of Hunter's companies gets a Chinese license that had been toiling to get and had been unsuccessful for quite some time.

00:34:15.400 Boom.

00:34:15.800 He shows up on Air Force Two, gets a deal.

00:34:17.960 When Hunter Biden wanted to have his annual dinner for his fund to raise money, guess where he did it?

00:34:25.600 The Chinese embassy in Washington, D.C.

00:34:28.540 But he couldn't do that for free.

00:34:30.460 He had to come half an hour early for a little one-on-one with the ambassador.

00:34:34.960 And now what do we see?

00:34:35.960 The Biden administration has dismantled Trump's China initiative to focus prosecutorial efforts against Chinese influence peddling,

00:34:46.040 against Chinese espionage in the United States of America.

00:34:49.440 President Trump knew that we had to have very, very tough policies to stop the Chinese from compromising our politicians and hollowing out our country for their benefit. 1.00

00:35:01.380 And the Bidens stopped it.

00:35:03.500 And I think they got paid a whole heck of a lot of money to do so.

00:35:07.420 So don't just think about Hunter Biden as some wayward son out doing his own thing.

00:35:12.960 No, no, no, no.

00:35:13.820 You've got Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Joe Biden's brother, all playing very distinct roles in the Biden crime family.

00:35:21.620 And we are going to have a lot of updates and a lot of documentation and evidence on that coming in weeks ahead.

00:35:29.280 Thanks so much for joining us on Firebrand Live here from the Capitol.

00:35:33.120 It's a busy day on Capitol Hill.

00:35:34.700 I want to keep everyone informed, engaged, active.

00:35:38.520 Action, action, action.

00:35:39.920 It's what we got to do, right?

00:35:41.240 Let's roll the credits.

00:35:41.960 We'll see you next time.

The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - July 29, 2022

Episode 64 LIVE： Truth Bombs (feat. Rep. Devin Nunes) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

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