The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - February 06, 2023


Episode 88 LIVE： Balloon Mania – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz


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In this episode of Firebrand, we discuss the latest controversy surrounding a Chinese surveillance balloon and what it could mean for our own national security. We also talk about TikTok and TikTok's impact on the Chinese Communist Party's surveillance efforts.

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00:00:01.000 The embattled Congressman Matt Gaetz.
00:00:04.000 Matt Gaetz was one of the very few members in the entire Congress
00:00:07.000 who bothered to stand up against permanent Washington on behalf of his constituents.
00:00:11.000 Matt Gaetz right now, he's a problem for the Democratic Party.
00:00:14.000 He could cause a lot of hiccups in passing applause.
00:00:17.000 So we're going to keep running those stories to keep hurting him.
00:00:20.000 If you stand for the flag and kneel in prayer,
00:00:23.000 if you want to build America up and not burn her to the ground,
00:00:27.000 then welcome, my fellow patriots. You are in the right place.
00:00:31.000 This is the movement for you.
00:00:33.000 You ever watch this guy on television?
00:00:35.000 It's like a machine. Matt Gaetz.
00:00:38.000 I'm a canceled man in some corners of the internet.
00:00:41.000 Many days I'm a marked man in Congress, a wanted man by the deep state.
00:00:46.000 They aren't really coming for me. They're coming for you.
00:00:50.000 I'm just in the way.
00:00:51.000 Welcome back to Firebrand.
00:00:57.000 We are broadcasting live out of room 2021 of the Rayburn House Office Building
00:01:01.000 on the Capitol Complex in Washington, D.C.
00:01:04.000 Thanks for watching us on the live stream on Getter.
00:01:06.000 We see you from Texas.
00:01:08.000 We see you from Missouri.
00:01:10.000 Thanks for joining in on YouTube from Pensacola, Florida.
00:01:13.000 And it seems that all eyes have been on a Chinese surveillance balloon.
00:01:19.000 Some called to capture the balloon.
00:01:21.000 Some called to shoot down the balloon.
00:01:24.000 You had General Milley wanting to know the balloon's pronouns.
00:01:28.000 I think Eric Swalwell wanted to date the balloon.
00:01:32.000 AOC thought that the balloon wanted to date her.
00:01:35.000 And the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin,
00:01:38.000 thought the balloon was a symbol of white supremacy.
00:01:41.000 So we're going to zoom out a little bit and assess what the balloon says about China and about us.
00:01:48.000 And what are the real threats we're facing going forward?
00:01:52.000 On Meet the Press yesterday, Chuck Todd had a clarion moment while interviewing Mayor Pete Buttigieg.
00:01:58.000 Take a listen.
00:02:01.000 You know, it's interesting about how the Biden administration has conducted its manufacturing policy and foreign policy with China,
00:02:08.000 how the Trump administration did it.
00:02:09.000 And in that sense, there hasn't been a lot of disconnect between the two administrations.
00:02:13.000 Is this an admission that the 30- or 40-year Western consensus that said,
00:02:20.000 hey, if we bring China into the economic system, it's going to defang them? 1.00
00:02:25.000 It had the exact opposite effect in it.
00:02:27.000 Well, you know, whether it's Western engagement with China or whether it's Europe's engagement with Russia,
00:02:32.000 there have clearly been a lot of lessons in recent years that engagement alone does not yield comfortable partnership and easy acceptance of a rules-based international order.
00:02:44.000 And each of those struggles obviously is different, but I think some of those patterns do overlap.
00:02:49.000 So amazingly, Chuck Todd is right about this.
00:02:54.000 The bipartisan consensus in Washington for generations has argued that if we bring China closer to America
00:03:01.000 through trade and economic engagement and diplomacy and global legitimacy, that they would be more like us.
00:03:10.000 But China has not been defanged, as Chuck Todd would put it.
00:03:15.000 We saw that last week.
00:03:16.000 Instead of China becoming more like the United States, we have become more like China. 0.91
00:03:22.000 We have fused business and government, ignoring the innovation dividends of a truly free market.
00:03:28.000 Look no further than big tech, but also big pharma and even the healthcare industrial complex.
00:03:34.000 They all prove this point.
00:03:36.000 We have created a de facto social credit score in this country where everyone in government, from the White House to the Department of Homeland Security, even the FBI,
00:03:47.000 they're trying to shape political viewpoint online.
00:03:50.000 Sounds a lot like China.
00:03:52.000 And if you don't comply, it's the digital gulag for you.
00:03:56.000 Now, it's easy to get the American people riled up over a giant balloon.
00:04:00.000 It was observable to the naked eye at some of the places even around 60,000 feet.
00:04:05.000 But I couldn't help but feel a bit frustrated.
00:04:09.000 Politicians and pundits rage at the balloon.
00:04:13.000 But one in four Americans uses TikTok.
00:04:17.000 We know TikTok is a Chinese Communist Party surveillance tool. 0.83
00:04:22.000 Take a listen to our discussion about TikTok with technology executive Gavin Wax from a prior episode.
00:04:29.000 Take a listen.
00:04:30.000 TikTok is the new big dog on campus and it just so happens to be a company completely beholden to the Communist Chinese, the Chinese Communist Party out of Beijing.
00:04:40.000 And this obviously poses a major, major national security risk.
00:04:44.000 I mean, TikTok is unique in how addictive it is and how personalized it is, how it caters to you based on, you know, all the data that it collects from your interests to what you're searching, to how you're liking, to how long you're watching.
00:04:58.000 I mean, the data that they are gathering from American citizens is massive and in the wrong hands, like in the hands of the CCP, it could be used for extremely effective intelligence gathering and other types of intelligence operations.
00:05:12.000 I mean, they can see what's pasted, what's saved in your clipboard.
00:05:16.000 They can gather your biometric data.
00:05:18.000 They could gather your location data, your facial recognition.
00:05:21.000 I mean, all this data is now in the hands of the Chinese Communist Party out of Beijing and they can potentially have that data on elected officials, their staff, military personnel, you name it.
00:05:33.000 That should terrify all of us.
00:05:37.000 And if TikTok isn't scary enough because it's in our pocket instead of in our skies, how about the surveillance devices that our neighbors, our family members and even our local law enforcement fly over our skies on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party? 0.90
00:05:54.000 The story starts with DJI drones.
00:05:57.000 DJI drones constitute more than half of the drone market in the United States.
00:06:02.000 Our own Department of Homeland Security tells us that the CCP uses these drones and our desire to use them in law enforcement to gather key information regarding how to attack and harm us.
00:06:16.000 So they give these low cost drones to our local police forces, sometimes our state law enforcement.
00:06:23.000 And then as those drones are performing the functions directed by American law enforcement, they're actually sending data back to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:06:33.000 That's not a conspiracy theory.
00:06:35.000 That's in our own Department of Homeland Security's reporting.
00:06:38.000 Now, according to an additional report last year in The Intercept, quote,
00:06:43.000 The New York City Police Department, the largest police department in the country, is continuing to use surveillance drones made by a Chinese company that the U.S. government has made moves to ban, labeling it a national security threat.
00:06:59.000 That may provide U.S. critical infrastructure and law enforcement data to the Chinese government.
00:07:06.000 Albert Fox Khan, the executive director of the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project, or STOP, a group that advocates against mass surveillance, said the warnings about DJI are just one of many concerns around the NYPD's handling of data that the department gathers directly or in conjunction with private technology companies.
00:07:24.000 Quote, there's a lot of uncertainty about the ability to protect the data they're collecting on New Yorkers and no clear reporting if that data is compromised.
00:07:35.000 Close quote.
00:07:36.000 Now, that was Khan pointing to a recent hack of the city's law department.
00:07:41.000 The possibility that some data might end up in the hands of foreign governments is alarming, he added.
00:07:47.000 That can be a real risk to New Yorkers, and there are plenty of New Yorkers, including a lot of democracy activists, who have a reason to be particularly fearful of the Chinese government.
00:07:58.280 That is the report from The Intercept.
00:08:00.320 So, tomorrow, Joe Biden will give the State of the Union address, and I'll be in attendance, because whether I agree or disagree with President Biden, and I most often disagree with him, I respect the State of the Union and the Office of the Presidency far more than the Democrats who disgrace themselves and our country with multiple illegitimate impeachments of President Trump.
00:08:23.420 So, let's start with what we are going to hear from Biden on the domestic front.
00:08:29.860 He'll tout better-than-expected job numbers, but that misses the mark.
00:08:34.340 Keep this in mind.
00:08:35.880 When you keep the economy shut down unnecessarily over COVID, it creates pent-up demand in the job market.
00:08:42.020 Everyone knows this.
00:08:43.240 The swings weren't as rough in my beloved Florida because we opened up and got people back to work.
00:08:49.040 We actually relied on people to get the economy moving again in their jobs rather than endless government checks.
00:08:57.420 Now, Biden's message on jobs is basically the message you would get from a braggadocious firefighter who is a part-time arsonist.
00:09:06.760 While more jobs are being filled, we aren't seeing wages rise to keep up with Biden inflation.
00:09:12.620 In Trump's economy, wages rose, increasing purchasing power for regular Americans to live their biggest and most ambitious dreams.
00:09:22.140 Now, we are a diminished country with a president in decline, and our economy should not have to join Joe Biden in that decline.
00:09:32.760 The labor participation rate is far lower than during the Trump era.
00:09:37.020 According to the latest jobs openings and labor turnover summary, there are now two job openings for every unemployed person.
00:09:46.200 Labor participation is at 62.3%.
00:09:48.680 Very, very interesting.
00:09:52.720 Now, Biden will scold Congress on the debt limit.
00:09:56.760 You should prepare for that.
00:09:58.460 And it's especially going to be a scolding for those who hold my view.
00:10:03.820 And here's my view.
00:10:04.620 It's very simple.
00:10:05.220 When you max out your credit card, it is a good time to reflect on your spending habits.
00:10:12.180 This argument will sound something like that.
00:10:15.560 Well, the argument that Biden is going to make, I should say, is going to sound something like the argument that Larry Summers made.
00:10:22.220 And now he appeared on Fareed Zakaria's CNN show yesterday.
00:10:26.420 So take a listen.
00:10:27.440 This is going to be the essence of the Biden argument.
00:10:29.760 If you were advising President Biden, what would you tell him to do?
00:10:36.420 I would advise him that it's not a viable strategy for the country to default on obligations, whether it's interest obligations or obligations to pay contractors or obligations to pay federal workers or obligations to pay Social Security benefits,
00:10:58.880 that that that's the stuff of benefits, that that's the stuff of banana republics, and that he's not going to engage in any of that stuff.
00:11:09.040 I advise him to basically insist that Congress do its job and approve the borrowing to finance the spending it has already both authorized and appropriated.
00:11:26.140 I think he should be staying very strong.
00:11:29.300 Will there be any cosmetic things affecting looking at future spending at some point?
00:11:38.000 Maybe there will be.
00:11:39.560 But fundamentally, this is not something where there should be bargaining.
00:11:46.320 You can debate who will win the game of chicken.
00:11:49.560 What you can't debate is that the American people will lose.
00:11:52.460 But you do have this problem where there's a bunch of people in the Republican Party who do seem like they're willing to blow the whole thing up.
00:12:02.700 And it's a larger percentage than I think you dealt with during the Tea Party days when they also threatened to default.
00:12:09.920 Are you worried that even if it's a 15 percent, 10 percent chance that these republicans can hold up the process and we do have a real crisis?
00:12:24.880 I am worried, but I'm more worried about the consequences of kowtowing to terrorists.
00:12:33.700 Kowtowing to terrorists.
00:12:39.040 Britt on YouTube says the State of the Union is going to be the highest rated sitcom.
00:12:43.800 So I guess it would be funny if it weren't so disastrous, the policies that Joe Biden has pursued and the harm he's done to our country.
00:12:51.060 And now we see they called us traitors when we said Trump wasn't a Russian agent.
00:12:55.900 Turns out one of the FBI guys involved in the intelligence intake on that case became a Russian agent.
00:13:04.100 We were labeled insurrectionists when we sought parliamentary objection on January 6th.
00:13:10.420 They called us the Taliban 20 when we demanded the rules of the House be changed to stop omnibus legislating
00:13:16.500 and allow open amendments and arguments with actual time to read the bills.
00:13:22.140 And now you heard it just there, former Obama era economist Larry Summers now saying we are terrorists for even having the nerve to negotiate spending policy as America accrues $32 trillion in debt.
00:13:38.500 Now, I know the left says that everything is terrorism now.
00:13:42.320 But is it really terrorism to suggest that we have the same welfare to work negotiations that brought Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton together on a spending deal?
00:13:54.480 Should able-bodied working age people reasonably expect that you pay for their health care, even if they can work but choose not to? 0.99
00:14:03.660 How about illegal aliens? 0.91
00:14:05.260 Should illegal aliens get tax credits? 1.00
00:14:07.500 They do.
00:14:08.480 $47 billion worth.
00:14:10.220 Is this unreasonable to question as we have a compounding debt crisis and a border crisis?
00:14:19.840 Like, why would we give tax credits to illegal aliens? 1.00
00:14:22.140 It's crazy to me.
00:14:24.080 Is our only true defense against terrorism the U.S. taxpayer-funded gay pride parades that you're paying for today in Prague?
00:14:32.520 Or how about the gender ideology activists that you all fund in Senegal?
00:14:38.100 Do you want to pay for that?
00:14:40.220 Maybe when we aren't meeting our own financial needs, we should reflect on the cost of exporting wokeness to other countries.
00:14:50.020 Biden will boast about the weapons we've sent to Ukraine.
00:14:53.260 If Biden would let the spy balloon into our country without attention, imagine how little attention is being paid to all the weapons we are sending out of the country.
00:15:04.940 I shared my perspective on the Ukraine war on the floor of the House just moments ago.
00:15:09.700 Take a listen.
00:15:12.580 How much more for Ukraine? 0.52
00:15:14.840 Is there any limit?
00:15:16.580 Which billionth dollar really kicks in the door?
00:15:20.400 Which red line we set will we not later cross?
00:15:24.240 China reminds us that we have real issues. 1.00
00:15:26.880 China began its offensive against our homeland, infiltrating our universities, stealing our innovations, buying off our politicians, surveilling our citizens, 1.00
00:15:38.200 all the while capturing the loyalty of America's most powerful corporations.
00:15:44.200 China's influence is overtaking ours, even in our own hemisphere. 0.83
00:15:47.740 Our conflict with China may turn very hot very soon. 0.63
00:15:53.180 Many believe we are currently in the window of a possible invasion of Taiwan.
00:15:57.900 If not deterred, such an invasion would immediately make life worse for virtually every American.
00:16:05.000 But tomorrow, President Biden will tell us how much more we must do for Ukraine.
00:16:12.660 Look around your house.
00:16:14.140 How much stuff is made in Ukraine, or even Russia, for that matter?
00:16:18.700 Next to China, if you're watching this speech on a smartphone, you're likely using Taiwanese technology.
00:16:25.940 So why Ukraine?
00:16:27.580 A country that just rounded up dozens of senior leaders in its government over overt corruption.
00:16:33.400 Perhaps the answer is as simple as the Hunter Biden life motto.
00:16:39.680 A grifter's got a grift.
00:16:41.860 But the amount of money we now pour into Ukraine makes Burisma's wildest dreams of wealth through Biden family influence seem meek by comparison.
00:16:54.720 Defense contractors need there to be a war going on somewhere.
00:16:58.100 Whether the arms end up in the hands of ISIS, the Taliban, the Azov Battalion, or on the black market.
00:17:05.620 They get rich in the business of weapons supply, but only when there is weapons demand.
00:17:12.380 A serious nation would never let foreign interests abroad or special interests here at home dictate its foreign policy.
00:17:20.000 The interests of our countrymen must morally compel our greater attention.
00:17:26.220 And as the war slogs on in Ukraine, the benefits to Americans are unclear.
00:17:32.700 Bandits in the Sinaloa Mountains hurt more Americans than the men in Crimea.
00:17:37.300 But foreigners come to Washington to lecture us about spending our constituents' money on a conflict thousands of miles of away. 1.00
00:17:46.760 And my colleagues are eager to oblige.
00:17:50.440 On this floor, Zelensky's demands got bipartisan standing ovations from most.
00:17:57.440 Stingers, HIMARS, tanks.
00:17:59.900 At first, we said no to all of these things.
00:18:02.660 President Biden even said that some of these things might lead to World War III.
00:18:07.260 And then, yet, we sent all of them.
00:18:10.560 F-16s are likely still.
00:18:12.520 Lockheed Martin sure is confident that Ukraine will get F-16s.
00:18:16.660 They told the Financial Times recently that they are already ramping up production.
00:18:21.620 Create demand.
00:18:23.160 Provide the supply.
00:18:24.960 This is escalating.
00:18:26.780 And we are placing trust in leaders who do not deserve trust.
00:18:30.980 John Kirby, the Pentagon spokesman, who assured us that the Afghan military would withstand the Taliban offensive,
00:18:38.820 now says that there is no risk that Putin will go nuclear.
00:18:43.400 The risk of miscalculation in Ukraine is much, much higher than getting it wrong in Afghanistan.
00:18:49.860 A nuclear war between Russia and the United States would end human life as we know it. 0.54
00:18:55.000 And yet, Biden is doing everything possible to provoke such a disaster.
00:19:00.060 And for what?
00:19:01.460 The actions we are taking are not going to end the war in Ukraine.
00:19:05.180 In fact, we are probably prolonging the killing.
00:19:08.740 Tens of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians will die this year because Congress feels good 1.00
00:19:14.240 when it sends instruments of death and billions in cash.
00:19:18.340 Many dollars sent for the war in Afghanistan ended up in bank accounts in Switzerland and Dubai.
00:19:24.760 To where will we trace the bounty of Ukrainian grift? 1.00
00:19:29.720 This war could end tomorrow if we pursued negotiation, but Biden refuses.
00:19:35.300 Not only do we arm the Ukrainian military, we pay their politicians' salaries.
00:19:40.020 The $113 billion in aid included funding the Ukrainian government.
00:19:46.240 We can and must push for peace.
00:19:49.620 You don't really hear that from many people these days with the exception of President Trump.
00:19:53.780 Trump is right to recognize that we are on the brink of World War III
00:19:57.300 and that immediate action for peace is necessary to stop disaster.
00:20:03.140 Unfortunately, there is a bipartisan coalition working to continue the war.
00:20:07.840 When Elon Musk proposed a peace plan, Nikki Haley attacked him,
00:20:12.700 saying we, quote, shouldn't push our weight on them.
00:20:16.600 That is, of course, nonsense.
00:20:18.160 We've pushed billions of dollars on them.
00:20:20.420 We can simultaneously pressure North Korea and China from supplying Russia.
00:20:27.040 The gentleman's time has expired.
00:20:28.720 I ought to do so.
00:20:29.340 Thank you.
00:20:29.720 I yield back.
00:20:32.500 We are back live and the live stream is fired up.
00:20:35.660 Aliens and Space Girl on Instagram agrees we have to go after TikTok.
00:20:40.340 Another Facebook user said that they weren't really looking forward to Biden's speech,
00:20:44.960 but they were going to use a margarita to get through it to get to the Sarah Huckabee Sanders response. 0.55
00:20:50.240 That should be pretty epic.
00:20:52.000 And Gabrielle says that Joe Biden is a good man and that I am a POS on Facebook.
00:20:57.820 Everyone's entitled to their opinion.
00:20:59.700 We're glad that you're watching.
00:21:00.740 And it does seem that I am the extreme MAGA Republican that Joe Biden is warning you about.
00:21:07.460 But whether it's less spending at home or more adherence to America's interests abroad,
00:21:13.080 I don't think my arguments seem so extreme.
00:21:15.620 To me, it's extreme to fund a war against a nuclear power oceans away.
00:21:20.480 That seems legitimately extreme.
00:21:23.100 Tend to your own garden, your own country first.
00:21:26.040 And we have challenges here in our country.
00:21:27.680 To me, it's extreme to know that our debt financing costs will soon exceed the budget of the Pentagon.
00:21:37.600 We should do something to stop that.
00:21:39.940 Seems like a common sense approach to spending.
00:21:43.780 So the perspective of new lawmakers in Congress is always one that we follow.
00:21:48.300 You'll recall prior Firebrand episodes where we've had Eli Crane and Ana Paulina Luna.
00:21:54.600 Two of the best.
00:21:55.340 First, CBS's Face the Nation yesterday hosted freshman Democrat members of Congress Robert Garcia from California and Summer Lee from Pennsylvania.
00:22:06.960 There were also Republicans that were there.
00:22:08.660 Crime and immigration were discussed.
00:22:11.040 And they were discussed, obviously, because these issues drove the shape of many of the midterm campaigns this last cycle.
00:22:17.620 So I picked up on something in the Face the Nation discussion that really concerned me.
00:22:24.300 It seems the Democrat strategy is to leave the rest of us unprotected, undefended, and afraid.
00:22:33.000 So listen to newly elected Congressman Robert Garcia talk about the justification for people coming across our border being in a state of desperation.
00:22:45.760 Take a listen.
00:22:46.240 There's this myth that Democrats somehow aren't concerned about a secure border, that we don't want an orderly process.
00:22:53.160 But we also want to ensure that we want secure—everybody wants a secure border.
00:22:57.100 But we also want to ensure that we're talking about the humanity of people.
00:23:00.280 These are people that are coming to this country that are desperate, that are suffering.
00:23:03.840 And so this idea that we can't give these people justice, we can't support and help them, I think is anti-American.
00:23:12.600 Congressman Garcia speaks of desperate people as if it's some new phenomenon in illegal immigration, as if people used to come for a different reason.
00:23:22.720 Throughout most of my life, the principal reason people have come illegally across the U.S.-Mexico border has been desperation.
00:23:30.720 The problem is, if the U.S. taxpayer has to pay for all of them when they get here, we will be desperate, too.
00:23:39.140 And we'd prefer ambitious and comfortable to desperate and afraid.
00:23:43.980 Who wouldn't?
00:23:44.440 So the Democrat argument goes, desperate people should be allowed into the country because they are desperate.
00:23:52.400 But that's not all.
00:23:54.140 Desperate people should also be allowed to commit crimes against you.
00:23:58.320 And we should think differently about crimes of desperation.
00:24:02.260 We should think about them as less acute, less deserving of punishment.
00:24:06.620 Listen to Democrat Congresswoman Summer Lee on that point.
00:24:08.980 The vast majority of people in poor and working-class neighborhoods are good people.
00:24:15.840 And they are victims of crime that we don't say anything about.
00:24:19.120 For instance, there is no police presence when they're a victim of waste theft.
00:24:25.620 We're not seeing anybody in fair laundry.
00:24:28.420 I passed legislation to prosecute people.
00:24:29.680 And I would like to see it happening here.
00:24:31.380 Because what we don't see when we're talking about crime, we're really talking about white-collar crime.
00:24:35.500 We're really talking about ways in which we're going to hold corporate criminals accountable.
00:24:39.660 We're really taking any strides in any level of government to do anything about that.
00:24:43.760 But we continue to talk about the crimes of desperation, and particularly the crimes in marginalized communities.
00:24:50.740 Oh, they're marginalized and desperate.
00:24:52.840 How about the victims of those crimes?
00:24:55.060 If crimes of desperation are to be punished less, then maybe we shouldn't let more desperate people into the country. 1.00
00:25:01.140 Just saying.
00:25:02.100 Don't really think that argument makes a lot of sense.
00:25:04.460 While we've been broadcasting the show, the Ukraine caucus has sent around the Ukraine ribbon for folks to wear during the State of the Union.
00:25:17.840 I will not be wearing the Ukraine ribbon.
00:25:20.620 It was quite something when we had the Ukraine flag displayed by Zelensky on the floor of the Congress.
00:25:25.960 It was like Democrats finally found a flag they were willing to stand up for.
00:25:30.200 I stand for the American flag for the American people.
00:25:33.400 That's why we need sensible border policy.
00:25:36.160 That's why we need a criminal justice system that holds people accountable.
00:25:39.400 It's why we need fiscal responsibility.
00:25:42.100 And it's why we need to end the U.S. contribution to this war in Ukraine.
00:25:46.580 Thanks so much for joining us on Firebrand.
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