The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - The Anchormen Show EP 129 - Primetime Headlines w⧸ David Pollack

00:00:00.000 Now, it's time for the Anchorman Podcast with Matt Gaetz and Pearson Sharp.

00:00:14.540 Welcome back to another episode of the Anchorman Show.

00:00:17.520 I'm Matt Gaetz.

00:00:18.160 I host the Matt Gaetz Show every night on One America News, 9 o'clock Eastern, 6 Pacific.

00:00:22.840 And I am not joined by Pearson Sharp, my usual co-host, but we have got our outstanding lead

00:00:29.840 off hitter for the primetime lineup on OAN. David Pollack with us. David hosts David Pollack

00:00:34.400 primetime. It starts 7 Eastern, 4 Pacific. It is how I always start primetime. Checking in on the

00:00:40.400 news of the day. And David, Pearson is at home with like double pneumonia. I have gone to

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00:02:57.760 So we also don't want to wait on getting to the week's headlines.

00:03:00.500 David, the big one, the big retribution contest in the bluegrass state of Kentucky.

00:03:07.120 President Trump defeating Thomas Massey after having traveled to the district,

00:03:11.040 after having dispatched the Secretary of War Pete Hegseth to the district.

00:03:14.740 And it was not a close one.

00:03:16.120 This was not a squeaker, Massey losing by nearly double digits to Ed Galrein.

00:03:21.740 What is your big takeaway from the race and where it kind of leads us as a party?

00:03:26.120 My big takeaway is that people pronounce Galrein differently.

00:03:30.340 I didn't know if it was Galrin or Galrein, and I've had a hard time.

00:03:33.840 People keep telling me to pronounce it differently.

00:03:35.780 No, but honestly, the big takeaway is this, and I respect Thomas Massey.

00:03:40.320 He's a principled conservative.

00:03:41.700 He stuck to his values through the end.

00:03:44.340 And but the problem is, you know, he's a he's a congressman. He represents a district.

00:03:48.700 Kentucky's fourth loves Donald Trump. And Thomas Massey said no to Donald Trump way too many times.

00:03:53.760 And that might have comported with Massey's values, but didn't comport with his district's values.

00:03:57.540 And at the end of the day, the voters decided that they wanted to send somebody else to Washington that would vote yes.

00:04:02.040 And it's as simple as that.

00:04:05.380 You know, David, there's also the frequency with which Massey deployed some of his tactics that I think really worked against him.

00:04:13.260 I know what it's like to be in office and because you have a principled view on something or a deeply held belief, you may have to take a vote that that isn't popular, that that you view as as in line with your moral code, but that isn't where your district wants.

00:04:29.580 Now, you typically don't want to do that with high frequency.

00:04:33.480 If you do that on the spending bill and on the border bill and on procedural votes, then I think it starts to have a cumulative weight, which is what we saw.

00:04:43.920 And I also I know what it's like to have to take on a leader in your own party.

00:04:47.800 I, of course, never did or would have treated President Trump the way that Massey did.

00:04:52.400 But when I took on Kevin McCarthy, I had to make sure my constituents knew that it was for them.

00:05:00.360 It wasn't some feud between me and Kevin McCarthy.

00:05:03.340 It was because I legitimately believed that my actions would make the place operate better for the people who sent me there.

00:05:10.440 And I think at times when Massey chose to frequently appear on CNN and MSNBC criticizing President Trump, there were enough voters in his district that didn't really feel like that battle about the Epstein files or any other thing really put them at the center of the discussion.

00:05:31.760 And I think that's another critical takeaway.

00:05:35.080 I think that's a brilliant point because – and you're exactly right.

00:05:38.200 Also, you knew your voters, you knew your constituents, you knew what side of the aisle they fell on on a particular issue.

00:05:45.440 And the thing is, when you took on McCarthy, he was pretty on – that's like basically you taking on John Thune right now.

00:05:52.300 I think your constituents would be like, hell yeah, Matt, go get him.

00:05:55.580 And it's different.

00:05:56.640 Like you said, with Thomas Massey, nobody's upset with President Trump, certainly not in Kentucky's fourth.

00:06:02.180 So when you're going and getting President Trump, that's not going to be popular with your base.

00:06:06.260 So you're talking about you taking on a perceived villain and Massey taking on the perceived hero, becoming the villain in and of himself.

00:06:13.060 And I think really that's what did him in.

00:06:14.740 I think the voters didn't want him to be one of 435 names that commonly come into the top to say no to President Trump.

00:06:21.500 And I think that was the issue at the end of the day.

00:06:23.560 It became exactly what you said.

00:06:25.080 It's more about Massey than it was about the constituents.

00:06:28.560 And I think that was at the end of the day.

00:06:29.860 A lot of people are saying Israel bought a seat.

00:06:32.040 It was the most expensive seat in congressional history. 0.94

00:06:34.660 Can you imagine 35 – any time you were in Congress, if somebody said, Matt, I'm going to drop $35 million in this race for a house seat, you would be like, that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

00:06:46.220 $35 million in Kentucky's fourth. 0.90

00:06:48.900 Insane.

00:06:51.420 Yeah, you could almost buy all of the real estate in the district.

00:06:54.600 Buy Kentucky.

00:06:55.340 I found this interesting because a lot of the national media discussion has been around the role that Israel's supporters in the United States have played in this contest.

00:07:09.480 And without question, that resource advantage was driven by a particular donor base that was motivated by Massey's votes on foreign policy that they didn't like.

00:07:19.220 And their equal opportunity political participants.

00:07:22.780 We saw this on the left, too.

00:07:24.200 Remember, they weren't cheap primaries when Jamal Bowman was taken out, when Cori Bush was taken out.

00:07:30.600 Those were also very expensive contests.

00:07:33.540 And I traveled to the district.

00:07:35.600 I talked to a lot of Kentucky voters.

00:07:37.040 I talked to people, frankly, who voted for Massey and who voted for Galrine.

00:07:41.160 And I didn't hear a lot of voters talking about Israel as a motivating issue one way or the other.

00:07:47.780 There were volunteers.

00:07:49.240 There were activists.

00:07:50.680 But the voters were talking about immigration.

00:07:52.980 The voters were talking about Massey's style, whether they liked it or didn't like it.

00:08:00.800 And I wonder if, you know, in all the discussion about Israel policy and the wedge that at times it's created in the Republican Party, whether we may just be overdoing it a bit.

00:08:11.620 I mean, a lot of people are saying on social media on X specifically that X isn't a real place.

00:08:17.020 You know, just because people are upset or want to talk about Israel and X, it doesn't reflect the pulse of the voters. 0.99

00:08:22.220 And, you know, I think that's accurate. I mean, congressional races, as you know, they're so much more local than some of these national races, the Senate races, the presidential races.

00:08:32.640 It's easy to get a group of people to think and feel a certain way about these giant anonymous issues like Israel.

00:08:39.800 But when you get to these congressional races, the voters are much smarter than people give them credit for.

00:08:44.840 You can have contact with your congressman. They're in your community. They're in your district.

00:08:48.500 You have contact with their office. You see them at the hobnobs and the meet and greets.

00:08:52.680 So it's much harder to convince voters that there's a big bad wolf that's controlling things from behind the scenes on a congressional race where I feel like it's a little bit more intimate with the local voters.

00:09:02.920 And I think that really is what it is here. I think national politics took center stage and a local race, even though, yes, a Congress race is a national race.

00:09:10.260 It's really a local national race. It's about as local as national races go. And I think really that's what it was.

00:09:16.080 I think online, a lot of people became obsessed with the battle, David versus Goliath.

00:09:22.240 Can the incumbent be unseated by, you know, the spoiler and all these things and who's behind who?

00:09:26.880 And yes, it makes for great content and it makes for a lot of energy, makes for good monetization.

00:09:31.820 But at the end of the day, I think it's people that are disconnected from grassroots politics that didn't really understand the way this election would turn out.

00:09:39.980 You knew it. You called it. I mean, I think those of us who follow politics.

00:09:43.180 I did not expect Massey to win. Yeah, I did not expect Massey to win and I did not expect it to be a one or two point race.

00:09:50.040 And really, it was how voters were reacting on the on the immigration issue.

00:09:55.140 It was also the age factor. I have never seen a race that had age as a dispositive feature of how someone was likely to vote more than this.

00:10:07.460 Where do you see the age divide or the age coalition in the party right now?

00:10:13.160 I mean, certainly in any party, different types of issues motivate people of different age groups,

00:10:18.880 whether you're in the workforce or not, whether you're in the parenting years or not,

00:10:22.580 whether you're more in the fixed income side of things.

00:10:25.360 But how do we get the young voters who maybe voted for Thomas Massey

00:10:32.400 or who's donated to him from around the country to really stay engaged and involved

00:10:37.580 in the current incarnation of the Republican Party, undeniably led by President Trump.

00:10:42.620 Well, you know, that's an excellent point with respect to the age thing.

00:10:46.360 I heard Brandon Strzok was on the show today, and he was talking about this generational gap,

00:10:50.920 boomers versus millennials or Gen Zers, Gen Xers, whatever generation they might be.

00:10:56.280 I don't even know what generations people are.

00:10:58.520 I just know that in politics, we target older voters because they're consistent voters.

00:11:05.280 They're your four out of four, three out of four, and what I'm speaking to translate to the audience is the people who show up to every primary and every general, those tend to be your older voters because you know what?

00:11:15.660 They've lived the life.

00:11:16.380 They've paid the taxes.

00:11:17.280 Their kids have gone through education in public schools.

00:11:19.060 They've worked.

00:11:19.820 They understand the consequences of voting, not voting, and the consequences of elections, so they tend to be more engaged.

00:11:25.240 this idea of chasing this youth vote.

00:11:28.460 And I get the fascination with it,

00:11:30.000 but young people generally don't vote.

00:11:32.120 And so I get it.

00:11:33.440 A lot more young people did pull for Trump.

00:11:35.240 That's because Trump was exciting.

00:11:36.900 A lot of people pulled for Bernie Sanders,

00:11:38.300 the same reason,

00:11:38.940 because he was just, 0.99

00:11:39.640 even though he's an old, boring white dude, 0.96

00:11:41.840 young people loved him 0.95

00:11:42.720 because the idea of socialism,

00:11:43.920 it was sexy and new.

00:11:45.140 Well, Donald Trump's a billionaire

00:11:46.260 who was going to take power

00:11:47.300 from the political parties

00:11:48.940 and give it back to the people.

00:11:50.200 Young people are interested

00:11:51.260 in something new and different.

00:11:53.500 And, yeah, you know, I don't think, sure, Thomas Massey was new and different.

00:11:57.620 And for the young people on social media, I'm sure that was exciting.

00:12:00.100 But for the voters of Kentucky's Fourth, again, the consistent voters are your older voters.

00:12:05.360 And in that district, I'm sure the turnout favored older voters.

00:12:08.860 And I'm sure all the issues that Massey was running on wasn't popular with older voters.

00:12:12.940 Those voters in Kentucky's Fourth remember the day when, you know, Israel was our friend.

00:12:18.320 And so they probably didn't appreciate the joke that Thomas Massey made.

00:12:21.920 You said it, not me, David.

00:12:22.700 Yeah. Well, I'm just saying, I'm sure I'm sure they didn't appreciate the joke Thomas Massey made in his speech that he gave conceding the election.

00:12:29.560 He says, oh, sorry, it took me a while to get here. I was waiting to talk to Ed in Tel Aviv.

00:12:34.600 And so that tells you what his mentality was. He he really spiteful to his base and the base didn't appreciate it.

00:12:44.400 Yeah, it was a different base, you know, for him than he had relied on in the past.

00:12:48.800 And when you when you go through that type of an oscillation, it's typically not highly reliable.

00:12:53.440 I want to go to the ideological out of the personal into the ideological component of this, because in coalition building, you know, President Trump has been has been a master class.

00:13:03.680 Right. He brought together this historic, multigenerational, multiracial coalition.

00:13:08.620 He concentrated the mail vote, particularly in 2024.

00:13:12.000 And I wonder where kind of the libertarians fit into the Republican coalition going forward.

00:13:19.400 I admittedly have a bit of a libertarian streak on some issues.

00:13:23.480 I don't believe that moral judgment in excess is something that voters crave from their political leaders.

00:13:31.240 But, you know, there are there are moments of tension on issues like E-Verify, where I strongly believe in government power to protect our interests.

00:13:41.640 Libertarians were thrilled with President Trump when he pardoned Ross Ulbricht and kept a number of other promises.

00:13:47.760 Libertarians tend to be more restrictionist on foreign policy.

00:13:51.420 So how do we get this crazy chorus all singing out of the same sheet of music when you have libertarian-leaning Republicans like Thomas Massey not seeing some of their issues reflected at the forefront of the agenda at all times?

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00:14:38.960 that's interesting and i could talk about the libertarian coalition issue for probably an hour

00:14:43.900 because it's such an interesting dynamic libertarians have always been politically

00:14:47.380 homeless they have their party but none of their candidates ever do much and but they really want

00:14:52.320 their values and their wishes represented so they kind of pick a party and that's how they get

00:14:57.020 representation and they get mad when they don't get what they want but I think and I've always

00:15:01.220 said this there's three political parties in America and it's not Democrat Republican NPAs 0.94

00:15:05.000 it's it's basically libertarians communists and hypocrites those are the three political parties

00:15:10.160 according to David Pollack because all of us at our core are libertarian right we want limited

00:15:15.260 government we don't want the government in our lives where we don't want it to be if you're a

00:15:18.200 Democrat you don't want the government telling what you could do with your body if you're a

00:15:21.020 Republican, you don't want the government until you can do it with your guns. We all are libertarian

00:15:24.280 about certain things until we become hypocrites. Well, if we're Republican, we win. Well, we want 0.93

00:15:29.320 to keep you from being able to have an abortion. And if we're a Democrat, we win. We don't want 0.97

00:15:32.500 you to have a gun. So that's when we become hypocrites, right? We're all libertarian until 0.95

00:15:36.160 we want the government to tell you you can't doing something like a giant HOA. And then, 0.98

00:15:40.180 of course, there's a communist who want the government to do everything. And that's really

00:15:43.680 who we're fighting. So to answer your question, Matt, the libertarians, if they want to build a

00:15:48.480 coalition they can choose do you want to build a coalition with the hypocrites that are winning 0.91

00:15:52.640 or do you want to build a coalition with the communists because democrats have become communists 0.95

00:15:57.360 those democrats with common sense have either become uh libertarian or conservative or at least

00:16:02.440 vote republican and so at the end of the day if libertarians want to have a voice well you better

00:16:06.620 choose the party that wants to limit the size of government to some extent versus the party that

00:16:11.400 wants to expand government where you have no rights at all so the coalition is simple hey

00:16:15.440 libertarians i get it you want everything but you're not going to get anything if you vote

00:16:19.960 democrat and at least you'll get some things if you vote for trump if you don't like it

00:16:23.400 be nicer and maybe santa will bring you better presents next christmas that's my take

00:16:27.460 steven miller is someone i like and respect a great deal and he is the deputy chief of staff

00:16:35.320 he's president trump's longest serving senior staffer if you carry from trump one to trump two

00:16:40.820 And Stephen often makes the point that there is no political constituency for the libertarian message, that there isn't really some large group of voters out there that actually wants less spending and limited rulemaking and some of the stuff that the libertarians espouse.

00:16:59.720 But I also saw Donald Trump go to the Libertarian Convention in a moment of great courage.

00:17:07.000 Like, when do you ever see a presidential candidate go to an opposing party's convention?

00:17:11.740 But Trump wasn't there just to pick a fight with the Libertarians.

00:17:14.420 He was pitching their vote.

00:17:16.040 He was pitching Libertarians to vote for him.

00:17:18.800 As many of them in that room were hollering at him, some were booing him.

00:17:23.280 He got a good reaction from others.

00:17:25.340 But it seems like Trump knows, come election time, they're not an insignificant part of the coalition.

00:17:33.100 Do you think there's something we need to do between now and the midterms to see that the liberty component of the Republican Party is motivated to vote?

00:17:42.400 I mean, look, I think it's not Trump that can't build a coalition.

00:17:45.280 This has always been the thing.

00:17:46.780 Trump has been a coalition builder since the second he descended the escalator.

00:17:49.940 He sat with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi in the Oval Office in 2016 and said, hey, let's make a deal on infrastructure.

00:17:54.920 and they go wait a second this is backfiring on us we weren't supposed to work together so they

00:17:59.240 said no to everything trump has always been a bridge builder a coalition builder because he's

00:18:03.680 a building builder he knows how to get things done he's always known how to get things done

00:18:07.320 he's not an ideologue he's a practical person so at the end of the day trump has always wanted to

00:18:13.120 work with the libertarians look at his administration you have rfk jr and tulsi gabbard

00:18:16.900 why are they there because they had different perspectives and trump invited them in to the

00:18:21.340 coalition it's not trump that is causing the rifts in the coalition it's these people who

00:18:28.320 don't know where they fit politically they might have voted for trump and they think because they

00:18:32.640 voted for trump and they were libertarian trump owes them something and this is it's this entitlement

00:18:36.740 it's this new voter entitlement that i keep seeing it's like well i voted for you trump and you didn't

00:18:41.760 give me everything therefore i regret my vote for you and because that's a fascinating thing for the

00:18:47.560 left-wing media to hear and manipulate to go oh this is awesome somebody who voted for trump

00:18:51.300 regrets their decision why don't you come on cnn and talk about it and this has become the

00:18:56.580 prevailing dialogue in the country it's you voted for trump and you're mad at him let's talk about

00:19:01.180 it but in reality trump has given libertarians more than they've ever gotten from anybody and

00:19:07.800 so the coalition is preserved with trump it's being destroyed by the people who voted for trump

00:19:12.160 and are unhappy they didn't get everything they got what people need to do is go hey what are my

00:19:16.040 two choices in november vote for the trump endorsed candidates which keep winning for a reason or 0.99

00:19:21.480 do something stupid and give the power back to the government that's that's really their choice 0.99

00:19:25.840 you know it reminds me of the axiom david we campaign in poetry and we govern in prose uh 1.00

00:19:33.980 there there is an article of prose out from the new york times that i want to get your take on

00:19:38.080 this is a wild story and uh the the fact pattern goes like this according to the new york times

00:19:44.380 which should be given every lens of critical review appropriate.

00:19:50.600 Yes.

00:19:51.060 The United States and Israel had a plan

00:19:52.660 to reinstall President Ahmadinejad to power in Iran. 0.81

00:19:57.380 And to achieve this, they were going to drop a bomb

00:20:01.120 on the security guards who were keeping him on house arrest, 0.99

00:20:05.180 kill them, and facilitate his path.

00:20:07.560 And allegedly, according to the story, he was in on this. 0.99

00:20:10.060 It had been communicated to him.

00:20:11.800 But there was a little problem in execution

00:20:13.540 because when they went to go bomb and execute the guards,

00:20:16.320 they also injured Ahmadinejad who then soiled on the plan

00:20:21.160 and cut off all communication.

00:20:23.140 So I just commented on this online because it's just so us in the Middle East.

00:20:29.360 One day's terrorist is another day's ally and then an ally becomes a terrorist again.

00:20:34.760 I mean, look at what we have going on in Syria right now.

00:20:37.220 Look at how bin Laden's arc evolved over time. 0.92

00:20:41.340 And are you buying it? 0.85

00:20:42.940 Are you buying the basic fact pattern from the New York Times that the A strategy was the return of death to America, Ahmadinejad? 0.98

00:20:51.940 You know, it's funny. 1.00

00:20:52.740 You say the New York Times, which is called the funny pages, right?

00:20:55.320 You remember back in the day you take Silly Putty when we were younger, before technology, we'd take Silly Putty on a Sunday and we'd stick it on the funny pages and then you'd peel it off and you'd have some of the print.

00:21:04.880 And at the same time, we were told if you played records backwards, the devil music would come out of it.

00:21:09.320 So I have this theory that if you take Silly Putty and you put it on the New York Times and you rip it off, potentially what comes out of it might be true.

00:21:18.660 So here's the reality.

00:21:21.660 According to who?

00:21:22.560 Anonymous sources?

00:21:23.720 Like somebody who was there was like, yeah, that totally happened, New York Times.

00:21:26.840 And listen, we're just going to tell you, but you can't tell anybody who I am.

00:21:29.520 It's an anonymous source report.

00:21:30.760 No, I think the point of this story and whoever gave them the information is just trying to make the United States look unfocused and foolish in a time of very critical negotiations with Iran.

00:21:40.920 Trump had this big strike plan.

00:21:42.240 He called it off because our allies in the Middle East said, hey, just chill.

00:21:45.400 He listened to him.

00:21:46.320 He did.

00:21:47.260 Whatever you see in the New York Times or the funny pages or whatever you see I think is a result of whoever wants to see that deal fall apart.

00:21:54.620 Because no matter what, every time Trump makes a deal, it's bad for Iran.

00:21:58.100 Trump goes to China, it's bad for Iran.

00:22:00.200 Trump goes to the Middle East, it's bad for Iran.

00:22:02.480 So what Iran really wants is to make it look like Trump can't make a deal.

00:22:05.660 But Trump did something very smart here, Matt.

00:22:07.640 He went to Saudi Arabia about a year ago, I think it was, maybe more.

00:22:10.500 I can't remember anymore.

00:22:11.620 And he said, I'm not going to be in a position.

00:22:13.720 This answers your question.

00:22:14.620 I think we talked about it pre-show.

00:22:16.120 I'm not going to be in a position to decide who rules people in the Middle East.

00:22:20.940 This hasn't worked for the United States in the decades we've tried to do it.

00:22:24.060 We're not in the business of regime change.

00:22:25.860 I don't know who's best to lead you guys.

00:22:27.960 That's your problem.

00:22:28.900 I'm in the business of protecting American interests

00:22:31.000 and who can we support as allies

00:22:32.500 to make sure our interests are protected

00:22:34.120 that was the Trump Middle East doctrine

00:22:35.860 and it's worked

00:22:36.500 look at the allies we have in the Middle East

00:22:38.240 making sure Iran doesn't turn into something bigger 0.81

00:22:40.760 Iran's firing missiles everywhere 0.98

00:22:42.180 and you know what

00:22:43.020 our allies in the Middle East are controlling it

00:22:44.980 I think what we're seeing is brilliant diplomacy

00:22:47.380 on the part of President Trump 0.73

00:22:48.580 and I think these ridiculous stories

00:22:50.100 in the funny pages called the New York Times 1.00

00:22:52.220 is just to make Trump look foolish 1.00

00:22:53.700 but we know he's a master 0.99

00:22:55.080 and he's winning in all of this I think

00:22:56.320 Well, I will grant the premise that the New York Times frequently tries to propagandize through these anonymous leaks.

00:23:05.620 I just posted the article because I was trying to make a broader point that it's usually a bad idea for the United States to try to pick leaders in the Middle East aligned with what you just said from this Trump doctrine.

00:23:17.940 And like, yeah, all of the responses I got were like, how dare you share the New York Times?

00:23:22.200 But it sounds like you agree with the core premise that the United States can make things happen all over the world and we can make more things happen with greater specificity and certainty in our own neighborhood, in our own hemisphere.

00:23:37.660 But like us playing Game of Thrones in Persia seems like a really costly and odd objective, don't you think?

00:23:44.820 I had this conversation in an X space a couple of weeks ago. 0.73

00:23:48.540 I had, I think it was a Shia woman, because I think the government, I think the, if I'm remembering, I always get the Sunnis and Shias mixed up, but I believe the government is Sunni now, right, in Iran, or the Ayatollahs?

00:24:01.720 No, no, no, they're quite Shia.

00:24:02.980 Oh, Shia, okay, so the opposite of Sunni. 0.98

00:24:04.320 Yeah, they're very Shia. 0.98

00:24:05.140 So the Sunnis want to take control of Iran and have a secular government, and the Shias are the ones that don't have the secular government, and I'm sitting here having this whole space, and at the end of the space, I asked this woman, I said, wait, hold on. 0.99

00:24:15.500 I said, is there any part of Islam that would live peacefully with Jews or Christians? 0.95

00:24:22.360 And she's like, oh, no, definitely not. 0.92

00:24:24.120 I'm like, so does it matter if it's a Sunni government or a Shia government?

00:24:30.220 I think the United States isn't going to be able to go, hmm, who hates us less?

00:24:33.820 That's really not our problem to figure out.

00:24:35.840 I think we need to.

00:24:36.760 Well, I mean, you just praised all the Sunni governments who are there. 0.66

00:24:39.940 You just said we could reasonably rely on our allies in the region to contain Iran. 0.88

00:24:44.560 they're all suny governments well what i'm saying is i don't know who is who i'm not going to say 0.97

00:24:51.480 okay this group is better than this group i'm going to say you do you and as long as it doesn't

00:24:56.240 affect me the united states i don't care and that's america first right we'll get along with

00:25:02.060 whoever we have to get along with but the second you're sounding like a guest on the matt gates

00:25:05.280 show more and more i mean it's practical man i'm a practical person i don't believe that we can pick

00:25:10.360 winners or losers we don't know what governments are going to interact with us in a favorably or 0.61

00:25:13.980 negative way at the end of the day it becomes about dollars you know russia's our big enemy 0.93

00:25:17.900 china's our big enemy but yet we fly rockets together and hang out in the international 0.90

00:25:21.720 space station so there's things we can get along with so how about we just figure out a way to do 0.99

00:25:26.320 business together make everybody a bunch of money and stop bombing each other but the second you

00:25:30.660 start bombing us well we have a problem and that's the way i see it weren't the first bombs dropped

00:25:37.900 by the united states and israel i don't think so i think it was as soon as the uh the islamic 0.73

00:25:42.840 regime in iran took over they declared war on the united states they they they bombed our barracks

00:25:48.680 they attacked our soldiers and they've been assisting terrorist regimes all over the world

00:25:53.660 in placing roadside bombs anywhere the united states forces are operating in a forward position

00:25:58.620 so no iran has declared war against the united states well before u.s started dropping bombs

00:26:03.320 the bombs is the end result of an antagonistic regime going back five decades in my opinion

00:26:08.240 Yeah, but some might say that they haven't done anything to us in the United States where there have been these these events that you've described.

00:26:16.120 It's in Iraq where we're in the Middle East.

00:26:19.620 OK, so like if we're out in public, right, we go to a restaurant and somebody throws something at you and like, well, it's fine because we weren't in my house.

00:26:28.480 I would have been really offended if we were in my house and you attacked me. 0.54

00:26:31.500 But if it was in Baghdad, I might feel different than if it was in La Jolla.

00:26:34.740 could you imagine but no the thing is here and right actually actually i might be more likely

00:26:43.160 to have something thrown at me in la jolla i had to take a minute to figure out how i'm going to

00:26:47.600 process this in a way that we didn't have to edit it post right right but at the end of the day

00:26:52.540 but the reality is um united states can be attacked not within our own borders but they

00:26:58.640 have attacked us in our own borders there has been allegations and trump has said it that iran

00:27:02.600 has tried to assassinate president trump iran we know iran has sent hezbollah through both cuba 0.62

00:27:08.880 and venezuela trying to come across our southern border we know that iran has been um putting

00:27:15.420 misinformation in our social media to affect our political elections we know that iran has engaged

00:27:19.760 in cyber attacks on the united states so just because they haven't dropped a bomb on the united

00:27:24.080 states doesn't mean they haven't been at war and doesn't mean they haven't attacked us and so i 0.97

00:27:28.680 I don't look at it as I'm totally for killing all of those people. 1.00

00:27:31.720 If they send if they send Hezbollah across our border, I am line them up and subject them to firing squad. 1.00

00:27:38.160 It sounds like you just changed your position on the war in Iran. 0.98

00:27:41.560 No. Well, I feel differently about protecting the homeland than I do about like dropping a bomb on a on a bunch of schoolgirls in Iran. 0.90

00:27:50.940 And, like, I feel differently about a Hezbollah person or a Hamas person coming across our border than I feel about, like, killing 40,000 children in Gaza. 0.68

00:28:00.100 Like, to me, the geography matters, and that's why I'm, like, very pro-intervention in the Americas, because I think we have a stake here that is different than the stake that we have in the Middle East. 0.78

00:28:13.480 But the United States didn't kill—and I agree with you. 0.52

00:28:15.980 But the United States didn't kill 40,000 people in Gaza.

00:28:18.560 That wasn't the United States.

00:28:19.540 the united states didn't bomb we wrote the check for a bunch of it well we write a lot of checks

00:28:24.180 to a lot of people and i mean yeah i i i find a bunch of it reprehensible but what led to those

00:28:31.000 40 but what and and look we can disagree and a lot of people can legitimately disagree with

00:28:36.240 israel's approach to um the conflict against hamas in gaza people can have different opinion

00:28:41.960 and look i have utmost sympathy for all loss of life regardless of what side your government

00:28:45.820 beyond innocent life it's a tragedy when innocent life is lost but who wrote the check that hamas

00:28:52.620 you cashed when they crossed into israel on october 7th and killed all those people and 0.63

00:28:56.700 kidnapped all those people so i mean it doesn't matter by the way we know the answer to that

00:29:00.620 question david hold on qatar wrote that check and they specifically wrote it at benjamin netanyahu's

00:29:06.360 request benjamin netanyahu asked qatar to pay hamas 30 million dollars a month and qatar

00:29:13.900 knowing that Netanyahu would be a snake and not admit to it, got him to put it in writing.

00:29:19.280 They had a written letter from Netanyahu saying, give Hamas $30 million a month.

00:29:23.900 So the biggest supporter of Hamas is Netanyahu because he is the one that got them bankrolled.

00:29:31.260 I got to tap into your lawyer brain here.

00:29:34.580 We got to go full lawyer, lawyer nerd.

00:29:37.040 Again, folks who tune in to David Pollack, Prime Time at 7 p.m. will not only get the news of the day,

00:29:41.980 They will get the very best legal analysis that we have to offer on One America News.

00:29:45.520 By the way, we have a lot of lawyers.

00:29:47.080 We could be the law firm of Pollock, Rian, and Gates at One America News these days.

00:29:52.840 We have so many lawyers in our primetime lineup.

00:29:55.400 But this legal case that has captivated my attention involves J.P. Morgan and this executive

00:30:02.000 in their leveraged finance division, Ms. Hajdani, who was sued by a male underling alleging

00:30:09.000 that she wanted to make him her sex slave and that in fact he had performed some of those

00:30:13.380 activities at her direction and demand. There's been a lot that broke after that lawsuit was

00:30:20.440 filed that called those claims into question. An HR investigation showcasing a lot of innocence

00:30:27.420 on the part of Ms. Hashtani. Now we are seeing that she may be going after him legally for making

00:30:35.160 that claim and harming her, we both know the litigation privilege well. If you put something

00:30:41.720 in a pleading that has any basis in fact, you can't get sued for it. But if it is frivolous,

00:30:48.800 if it is deemed a sham pleading, you lose that privilege. So if it's Judge David Pollack

00:30:55.260 assessing the various claims here, what's the evidence that's going to matter most to you?

00:30:59.740 Yeah, that is really interesting because I was looking at the lawsuit that she filed today and

00:31:04.140 She's claiming unspecified damages, but in excess of $50,000, so it's in the Superior Court of New York.

00:31:09.660 But, yeah, she's claiming defamation, but it's defamation per se, which means the subject matter of the defamation was so salacious that the damages inferred are severe.

00:31:20.620 And in this instance, drugging and raping is something that would qualify as defamation per se.

00:31:25.640 But, yeah, so the interesting part here is he made all these statements, and then she became famous as a result.

00:31:30.680 Apparently, she lost, like, a volunteer gig.

00:31:32.380 it's interfered with business interests she got emotionally sick from it it got mental

00:31:36.480 mental anguish from it so yeah i i it's an interesting part from you're talking about

00:31:42.240 privilege because it's in the pleadings but at the same time it's beyond the pleadings it's in

00:31:45.380 the public sphere now and it's in newspapers so i think the defamation claim is valid and um i

00:31:50.800 think she has significant damages and it's going to be easy to prove in this instance because of

00:31:54.660 the per se so um judge pollack thinks this guy has a pattern of making these ridiculous claims

00:32:01.580 against people this woman who became famous not not wanting to be has now been harmed as a result

00:32:07.920 and so this is what the courts are for look he can file his lawsuit against jp morgan turns down a

00:32:13.040 million bucks he's going to regret that someday and then uh she gets to turn around and sue him

00:32:17.000 for making ridiculous claims that are false and uh well that she argues are false and i guess we'll

00:32:21.900 let the uh evidence do the talking yeah i think what this is going to come down to whether he

00:32:29.280 gets a judgment against him is going to be whether or not he has any evidence of any of

00:32:35.580 these claims. There has to be evidence other than his attestations for him to avoid some sort of

00:32:43.340 liability here. And if he doesn't have text messages, calendars, emails, video, some

00:32:51.180 contemporaneous statement to a third party, other witnesses, that's all the stuff JP Morgan looked

00:32:57.860 for. That's all the stuff they tried to find. Now, you make the point. We've seen this reporting

00:33:02.220 that there was allegedly this million dollar offer. Did they make that million dollar offer

00:33:06.960 because there was some smoke? Did they make it just because they didn't want these headlines

00:33:10.960 to be around the JP Morgan brand? But if he does not have some corroborating evidence,

00:33:17.080 you could see the man who alleged he was a sex slave, a slave to a judgment of a different kind,

00:33:23.360 An economic judgment. And that I think that would be justice. 0.88

00:33:27.400 Look, you should not be able to abuse the litigation privilege.

00:33:30.580 The litigation privilege is important. It exists so that people can go to court and get a reasonable resolution of their claims.

00:33:37.820 But it's not a license to defame people.

00:33:41.840 Right. And I think that some accountability on that side would probably be good for the justice system.

00:33:46.420 Well, and you remember, privileges can be waived as well. Who leaked information to the press about the substance of the lawsuit?

00:33:51.980 So if it was him, then arguably he published the defamatory information.

00:33:56.280 I'm interested to know where that information came from because clearly J.P. Morgan didn't call the press and was like, hey, cool, guess what is going on?

00:34:03.540 So I'm interested to know how that got out there too.

00:34:05.480 Right, right.

00:34:06.940 Well, very, very important legal point because the litigation privilege only covers the filing.

00:34:11.960 If you send the filing elsewhere, if you add commentary to it, if you're speaking to reporters off the record, then yes, that would exist outside the litigation privilege.

00:34:19.960 All right. Law school class with the law firm of Pollock and Gates.

00:34:24.780 I like the way that sounds. I do want to get to a. Yeah, there we go.

00:34:29.080 I want to get to a big piece of legislation. It's been bouncing around in Congress.

00:34:33.960 President Trump's been talking about it. I am hearing from my sources on Capitol Hill could be coming up very soon for a vote.

00:34:40.620 the SCORE Act. The SCORE Act, folks are going to want to check it out. This is a legislative regime

00:34:46.580 to rein in the ability of college athletes to demand very high prices in pay-for-play. I mean,

00:34:54.860 we call it NIL, name, image, and likeness, but come on, it's pay-for-play for college athletes.

00:35:02.600 So you and I, both big sports fans, we're Floridians, and you're basically required to

00:35:07.000 be a college football fan to get into the sunshine state uh so what how are you thinking about the

00:35:12.140 score act how do you see the the landscape of nil and college sports well the score act is

00:35:17.600 interesting and i've struggled with this because there's a whole bunch of things going on here one

00:35:22.380 i think nil and the transfer portal combined have ruined college football like ruined it like

00:35:27.880 basically you could play for a year somewhere and then you go and get paid millions of dollars to

00:35:32.040 go play somewhere else for a year and then you just go to the nfl and it's not about education

00:35:35.980 anymore i think college athletics have just been ruined by nil and transfer portal but that's a

00:35:40.180 whole nother issue and that's since that 2001 ruling that basically says that the ncaa double

00:35:44.680 a can't tell um and this is to give the audience background in 2001 supreme court decide or 2001

00:35:51.640 or 2021 i don't know what date it is anyway uh 2021 the supreme court just said that the ncaa

00:35:58.600 can't cap the amount of money essentially that an athlete can get on their nil because it's

00:36:04.060 essentially an antitrust violation because they were conspiring with schools and saying,

00:36:08.240 hey, this is how much you can pay this person to play.

00:36:11.220 And so the Supreme Court said, no, you can't do that.

00:36:12.540 So we entered this unregulated.

00:36:14.440 And by the way, that makes sense, right?

00:36:16.160 Well, it does.

00:36:16.640 100% makes sense.

00:36:17.440 Just like no news organization can forever cap your salary or my salary, right?

00:36:24.760 It's the market that decides what we get paid as anchormen of sorts.

00:36:29.160 Well, yeah, the comparison of that would be imagine we were in some kind of like media

00:36:33.040 union and the media union conspired with our networks to cap what we can get paid that's

00:36:37.340 that's what happened with the ncaa and the universities they're like well hey let's just

00:36:40.300 agree that we're not going to let our athletes get too much money while the universities were

00:36:44.340 getting 10 20 30 million dollars for these bowl games and the athletes were getting nothing so

00:36:49.440 and they were getting injured and then they ended up with nothing right so i understand an athlete

00:36:53.700 wanting to get nil money but now in this wild west that we're in right now some states are like yeah

00:36:59.100 i hate this i'm going to regulate this some states are like no i don't so you have states like

00:37:03.140 florida and texas free states they're not regulating the nil other states are and so you

00:37:07.860 have athletes picking and choosing where they're going to go to school based on booster money

00:37:11.560 and it's creating an unlevel uh uneven playing field across the board so now we have tons of

00:37:16.420 money we have athletes going wherever because the transfer portal so the score act seeks to go okay

00:37:21.620 how about the government say how much these people can get paid and and as a conservative

00:37:28.640 I kind of hate that, right?

00:37:29.920 I don't want the government telling me

00:37:32.000 how much my name, image, and likeness is worth.

00:37:35.000 So here we have this balance,

00:37:37.100 the Commerce Clause, not to get too nerdy,

00:37:38.900 the Commerce Clause suggests

00:37:39.980 that the government has this power

00:37:41.240 because I know a lot of people out there

00:37:42.500 who saw the Dobbs decision as saying,

00:37:44.360 hey, wait a minute,

00:37:45.280 federal government can't control what happens in states. 1.00

00:37:47.580 Well, they can because of the stupid freaking Commerce Clause, 0.99

00:37:50.180 which I hated in college 0.99

00:37:51.760 because it made basically every law

00:37:53.380 after the Commerce Clause has been terrible

00:37:54.900 for states' rights.

00:37:56.560 But it basically says,

00:37:57.340 Since athletes play across state lines and because the money transfers and this isn't a state issue, the government can regulate this.

00:38:03.260 Now, the problem is how does the government know a bureaucracy, know what a player is worth, a concussion is worth, a blown out ACL is worth?

00:38:10.060 And you're asking these kids to go and lift heavyweights, to go out and try to kill each other, essentially, for the entertainment of the fans.

00:38:15.720 The universities can rake in all this cash. 0.94

00:38:17.560 And when you end up with a broken neck, oh, that sucks.

00:38:20.700 At least you get a degree.

00:38:21.660 so we do have to figure out a way for the athletes to get compensation for the name image and likeness

00:38:26.580 that is being profited but at the same time gosh we're getting so far away from the spirit of the

00:38:30.660 sport go out there and play really hard get an education have a lot of fun in college and then

00:38:34.400 go get a job it's become a job to play college football and so i'm struggling with this one

00:38:38.480 matt what say you i i think that was really well put i am naturally skeptical of government price

00:38:47.180 setting in almost anything. And look, I don't think that white supremacy lurks behind every

00:38:53.640 corner and hides in every bush. I think that it was way overdone by like Biden and Christopher

00:38:59.760 Ray and that crowd. But like, David, if there was anywhere you could sell me that there might

00:39:05.900 have been a little white supremacy, it was in college football where this system was creating

00:39:11.460 billions and billions of dollars in value. And where was the money going? It wasn't going to

00:39:17.160 the poor black kids that were throwing and catching the football. It was going to a bunch 1.00

00:39:21.340 of the rich white coaches and administrators. It was funding entire athletic programs.

00:39:26.500 I got into this argument with my good friend and dear mentor Jim Jordan because Jim Jordan was a

00:39:32.960 world-class wrestler. He says, well, under the current system, all the resources get drawn away

00:39:38.300 from non-revenue sports and all of the resources go to football because that's where you have to

00:39:44.400 pay to compete, and to some extent, college basketball. Isn't that the free market? If

00:39:49.960 people don't want to watch underwater polo or wrestling or whatever else, why does some poor 0.83

00:39:58.200 black football player from Pahokee have to go out there and, like you say, risk permanent injury

00:40:03.600 so that the school can have a ladies' soccer program that nobody watches? Why is that what

00:40:11.520 we would ever be for. So I wouldn't vote for the SCORE Act because of the restraint on trade,

00:40:17.540 because I worry about the slippery slope. And like, you know what, the transfer portal,

00:40:24.160 you're right, it's the combination of being able to transfer and the pay. Like, if we'd have

00:40:29.200 absorbed either one of them, I don't think the impact on the sport would have been as significant.

00:40:34.120 But outside of an act of Congress, I think the NCAA can take reasonable steps on what the

00:40:40.720 protocols are for a transfer and already contracts can say look if you transfer there's a clawback

00:40:47.560 and and adults can enter into contracts that have clawbacks and i would just rather it resolve in

00:40:54.280 the free market space than like a bunch of people in congress sitting around deciding what a second

00:40:59.440 string tailback at texas tech should make well you know you actually make a you actually hate

00:41:04.440 when people say you actually make a good point like it's surprising you make a good point you

00:41:07.080 make a lot of good points um no but you make a good point here contract can solve all of this

00:41:12.460 right because i don't here's my solution to this by the way and i do agree the ncaa can regulate

00:41:17.680 the transfer portal and that 100 is something they could fix right away let's fix the transfer portal

00:41:22.380 so you actually have to sit out by the way you're totally right about yeah and then the nal thing

00:41:26.820 isn't as big of a factor but secondly um i think it would be totally within um the the contracting

00:41:33.300 powers of universities um to have athletes student athletes sign a contract that says hey you can

00:41:39.760 make as much nil money as you want but a percentage of it since we're giving you the platform goes

00:41:44.680 back to our general scholarship fund and you know what maybe that benefits the school benefits the

00:41:49.440 sport it's basically like uh you're paying rent so while you're at florida state university as

00:41:54.380 a quarterback tax a tax why can't universities you want to you want to tax nil i think that's

00:41:59.960 fair the universities do it but it's not a tax you want to tax nil and give it to other people

00:42:04.120 who didn't earn the money yeah i think so i think that's the right move because you're only making

00:42:07.860 david because here's the socialist of you i'm not a socialist i'm a pragmatic person so here's the

00:42:12.280 deal if you're if look you could be the best quarterback with matt gates is the best quarterback

00:42:16.380 in the world right you still will nobody will see you unless you're playing at one of the big schools

00:42:22.220 and giving you that stage you can have all the talent just like us oan is giving us the ability

00:42:27.140 to showcase our talents, right?

00:42:29.280 Florida State gives their quarterback

00:42:30.620 the ability to showcase their talent.

00:42:32.420 As a result, that person can make millions of dollars.

00:42:35.360 So, but for Florida State giving a quarterback

00:42:37.300 the opportunity to showcase his skills,

00:42:39.220 well, nobody would see them.

00:42:40.740 And so what is that worth to the student athlete

00:42:43.880 to go play at a school like Florida State

00:42:45.720 to get all the NIL money they want

00:42:47.180 without the federal government having to dictate that?

00:42:49.180 What is that worth to that student athlete to go,

00:42:50.880 yeah, I'll go play at Alabama,

00:42:52.420 and I'll, fine, I'll give 10% of my NIL

00:42:54.280 to the general scholarship fund.

00:42:55.760 That's fair.

00:42:56.160 I'll still make 30 million bucks. So I do think there's a contractual relationship that would solve a lot of these problems.

00:43:01.460 And we don't need the federal government deciding what the free market can't figure out on their own.

00:43:06.920 There is a party breaking out in the studio right now among the producers with your excellent comparison to OAN,

00:43:15.500 because they're fully expecting now that you will be taking 10 percent of your salary and putting it into a general fund that could be redistributed to all of the OAN employees.

00:43:25.560 I think what's good for the goose should be good for the gander.

00:43:30.020 I'm in San Diego, and you could take 10% of my salary, and I think it might buy donuts.

00:43:35.340 So we're good.

00:43:39.540 Well, it'll be interesting.

00:43:41.240 And you know what?

00:43:42.020 It'll be interesting to see the role the unions play.

00:43:44.560 Let's never forget whenever there's – like you and I are having this discussion, like rational people evaluating a marketplace and the objectives that we want to see in a fair market.

00:43:53.180 And I admit reasonable people can disagree on that. Democrats, I think, will lock down with whatever the unions say, because the unions look at college athletes as prospective members.

00:44:05.060 And I'm a critic of unions because I think oftentimes they they work for the benefit of their worst members, not not their best members.

00:44:13.120 And I think that the the answer of having like the Teamsters in charge of college football is probably the worst about all outcomes.

00:44:22.120 Yeah, I completely agree.

00:44:25.400 I totally got distracted, Matt.

00:44:27.340 I'm watching the clock.

00:44:28.360 I'm watching the script, and I was thinking about something I wanted to say before.

00:44:31.600 Go ahead, please.

00:44:33.120 I had a total...

00:44:34.420 Well, look, I want to make sure we're about at the end of our hour.

00:44:38.720 I want to make sure our viewers have a great opportunity to continue to follow you.

00:44:43.020 What are some of the stories you're going to be looking at in the coming week

00:44:46.680 and some of the conversations you're going to be having on David Pollack Primetime?

00:44:49.360 So the biggest story I think that we should be covering because of what might happen, and I'm going to talk about this tomorrow on the show, Raul Castro's indictment.

00:44:58.960 I know a lot of people are like, who's Raul Castro? He's a 93-year-old communist from Cuba. Who else cares?

00:45:03.700 Southern District of Florida signed an indictment saying that Raul Castro can stand trial for murder in the United States.

00:45:11.040 Maduro had a similar indictment, and you remember what happened there.

00:45:13.880 Right at this moment, a U.S. aircraft carrier is heading to the Caribbean in support of operations because of the rising threat in Cuba.

00:45:22.660 You've heard Cuba might be next.

00:45:24.140 Trump said Cuba is next.

00:45:26.720 Marco Rubio, I think he's already suiting up, and that's a role he'd gladly play.

00:45:32.060 And so I think this indictment that you saw come out of the Southern District of Florida is very interesting to those who were impressed with the Delta Force operation to remove Maduro from Venezuela.

00:45:42.460 So watch very closely what happens to an aging communist in Cuba in the next few weeks.

00:45:47.360 So we're going to be talking about that because that is going to be a developing story.

00:45:50.580 And, of course, midterms, man.

00:45:51.840 I mean, the midterms, I think, is the biggest thing that we're going to talk about every week.

00:45:55.560 As these primaries come in, they have significant impacts on the midterms because who – like, talk about Thomas Massey.

00:46:03.680 And how do you say his name?

00:46:05.900 Galrain?

00:46:08.600 We'll learn he's going to be a congressman.

00:46:10.440 Galrain, Galrain.

00:46:12.460 Anyway, if you look at the midterm impacts of these primaries, they're going to be huge.

00:46:18.440 California's coming up in two weeks.

00:46:19.900 Spencer Pratt, will he beat Karen Bass?

00:46:22.500 Donald Trump just endorsed Spencer Pratt today.

00:46:24.780 That's a big deal.

00:46:25.500 Donald Trump also endorsed Ken Paxton.

00:46:28.200 Big race there against another Trump opponent that's in the Republican Party.

00:46:32.280 Matt, this is fascinating.

00:46:33.440 I can't talk about it enough.

00:46:35.000 This is the Super Bowl of politics this year.

00:46:38.460 Historical precedent.

00:46:39.620 Will we keep the House?

00:46:40.600 Will people who didn't like Trump lose their seats?

00:46:43.220 Will grassroots rise up?

00:46:44.480 Will MAGA fight?

00:46:45.380 I mean, this is what I was born for.

00:46:47.460 And I'm happy to sit here on this set with you and have these discussions.

00:46:50.320 And hopefully the audience enjoys the back and forth.

00:46:54.720 Well, we do like having an occasional difference of opinion.

00:46:58.960 We think that makes everybody smarter and makes our arguments better.

00:47:01.980 I highly recommend David Pollack primetime at 7 p.m.

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00:47:29.680 David, it's always a pleasure chatting with you.

00:47:31.860 We hope you'll join us again.

00:47:32.940 It's a lot of fun. Thanks.

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The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - May 21, 2026

The Anchormen Show EP 129 - Primetime Headlines w⧸ David Pollack

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